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arizona sports hall of fame. his alma mater arizona state said a hero, a legend, and now a hall of famer. here is hero tonight. we're grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington, i am shannon bream. ♪ >> tucker: this is a live look at an airfield in hawaii where the remains of 55 american servicemen killed in the korean war are finally coming back to the united states. the remains are being returned by the north korean government. jenna what are subject to that's part of recent negotiations with the trump administration. what's that all what vice president mike pence just spoke. we'll continue to monitor the transfer and check in with pete hegseth, who wass in thank hawaii, just a few minutes from now. good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." first we want to tell you that today marks the second day of paul manafort's trial in virginia.
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manafort is charged with tax evasion and filing false loan documents. the average sentence for tax fraud in this country is a little over a year in prison, a year and three months. manafort is facing 305 years in prison.. is tentsee thank you he is 69 years old, he has never been charged with a crime. if he is convicted in this trial, paul manafort will die in prison. the left thinks that's just fine. manafort ran donald trump's presidential campaign. they believe he deserves to die for that. watching from the white house,na the president tweeted this today about the trial. "looking back on history, who was treated worse, alfonse capone, legendary mob boss, killer and "public enemy number one," or paul manafort, political operative and reagan/dole darling, now serving solitary confinement - although convicted of nothing? where is the russian collusion"? it's interesting point, actually. al capone ordered the murders od scores of people. he got an 11-year sentence and was released after just eight. he was barely 40 years old when he got out of prison, probablyes because he never made the mistake of managing an unfashionable political campaign. the plan for paul manafort, meanwhile, is to ensure that he dies behind bars.ob mueller's lead prosecutor in this case, andrew weissmann, is
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working hard to make sure that happens. if you were at hillary clinton's election night party in new york city, you may recognize andrew weissmann. he was there, too, hoping to celebrate hillary's victory. now he's doing the next best n thing -- avenging hillary's defeat. keep in mind that, in america, justice is a possibility evenly applied. it's maybe the best thing aboutl our country. political differences aren't supposed to get you locked behind bars.ty then came the resistance, and everything changed. opposing trump became a matter of total war. whatever it takes, even if it means corrupting our justice system and ending a man's life.e dan bongino is a former secret service agent, nra tv contributor, author of the brand-new book "spygate, the attempted sabotage of donald j. trump." dan bongino joins us now. dan, i hate to think that anyth prosecution is politically motivated, but in a country in which a year and three months is the average sentence for tax evasion, to see a man facing 305 years raises red flags, to put
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it t mildly. >> tucker, this case is a disgrace. listen, i was a federal agent. i don't know paul manafort, i don't know what he's guilty of or not guilty of but i am familiar with federall investigations and the tactics used. and i can tell you with a clean conscience i have never, ever seen heavy-handed government tactics like this used for whatt is essentially a process crime and basically a white-collar crime for a guy with no criminal pedigree at all to speak of. this is unheard of. you said at the beginning of the show, justice is supposed to be evenhanded. it's supposed to be blind, too, tucker, but it appears to be blind only to democrats. paul manafort is guilty of something. he's guilty of helping donald trump win, and that's what's bothering the mueller probe. >> tucker: so, obviously, the point of criminal punishment is to render justice, to do something proportionate, appropriate -- to send a statement we don't accept this kind of behavior. that's why we punish tax evasion, and we should. also, to protect the public, to make sure that someone who's a
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threat to the rest of us is no longer walking free. in this case, the prosecution didn't even explain how he defrauded the banks. did the banks lose money?t i don't think they did. they didn't explain how much he should have paid in federal taxes, but didn't -- and i don't think there's a single person in america feels a physical threat, or even a moral threat, fromld 69-year-old paul manafort. they're not even pretending this isn't political. >> no, they are not. if they are, they are doing a really poor job. and it really begs the question, tucker -- if the federal government and all the taxpayere assets that support it thought paul manafort was such a threat to the republic, why didn't they warn the trump team? barack obama was the president of the united states, not the democrat party. why didn't they warn the trump team that this dangerous threat that had to be put in solitary confinement, that had to have the full force of the government weaponized against him, why didn't they warn them? the answer is, because they didn't believe that. i told you, manafort is guilty
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of something, he's guilty of helping donald trump win. and by the way, tucker, some of the same process crimes and suspicious activity mueller has accused manafort of, ironically enough, democrats accused of the same thing of people connected to democrats seem to have gotten up to this point a relativelyy free legal pass. >> tucker: even as a matter of appearances, would you, if youte were robert mueller, appoint as the lead prosecutor in a case against donald trump's former campaign manager, a hillary partisan who went to her victory party on election night? >> [laughs] tucker, this is a joke. they're not even hiding it. can i double down on you? how about this. andrew weissmann, yes, attended hillary's party. jeannie rhee, one of his lead prosecutors in the case represented the clinton foundation. aaron zebley, another. prosecutr in the case who is friendly with the whole mueller crew, represented one of the clinton
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guys involved in the destruction of the blackberries as a lawyer. this is really happening right now. and, by the way, other ones areg donors to democratic candidates. you would think a guy with bob mueller's level of intelligence. no one is claiming he's a dumb guy, by the way. you would think it would be smart enough to pick this out and pick other lawyers and at least attempt to look nonpartisan. for some reason, they don't seem to care. >> tucker: or they are totallyo lacking in self-awareness.d almost everybody in that world is lacking self-awareness, because they don't know anyone who disagrees with them. which is part of the problem. dan bongino, thank you, as always, for a clear explanation. well, the carter page fisa applicationee has been released in part. big portions of it were redacted and those portions could help reveal the extent to which the obama administration surveilled the trump campaign, which they did. congressman devin nunes is the chairman of the house intelligence committee. he represents california in the house of representatives, and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on.
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>> great to be with you. >> tucker: so, you've seen themi entire document, the entire application. fisa applications to spy on carter page, and then the trump campaign. much of it was redacted, pages and pages redacted. do you believe, knowing what was redacted, that the public has a right to see that information? >> absolutely. so what we heard for a long time is that the memo that we created to make sure that the americand, public knew that the fisa contained the dossier, or the so-called "dirt" that the clinton campaign paid for, bought it from russians, fed it to the fbi in order to get a, fisa warrant on carter page.om we said that made up the bulk of the fisa. we were made fun of, we were told that we were wrong, that we were lying, when in fact we were 100% right. then you noticed that right after that came out they said what's really important is the
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information that is redacted. then, lo and behold, they found out that just a couple months before, the republicans on the house intelligence committee had actually asked for about 20 pages, at least 20 pages, to be declassified of the carter pages fisa. those today, tucker, remain redacted and hidden from thes public. we believe that, if the public saw that information, they would have a very clear picture to what director comey called a mosaic. i think the public needs to understand what is this mosaic that was created by the fbi, fed to the doj, fed to a fisa court in order to spy on an american citizen and effectively get information directly from the trump campaign? >> tucker: here you have the obama administration spying on g rival political campaign, specifically on a man who has never been charged for the crimes that were the pretext of the spying in the first place. and yet no one on the left cares at all, and i guess my question
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to you, again, having seen the information that i'm not allowed to see, is there a good reason the national security-based reason to keep that information from the public? on what grounds was it redacted? >> quite the opposite. there is a national security reason to make sure that the american public sees this in its entirety, because this is a phony fisa. the department of justice and the fbi put something together that is completely fraudulent in order to spy on american citizens. it's our job as congress to bring sunlight and full transparency to this process. it's in the best interest of the doj and fbi to let that happen. >> tucker: let's do that now. why don't you send it to me now, and i will put it on the air after the show? i mean it, i'm dead serious. you are the chairman of the house intelligence committee. you are elected by voters toto make these judgments. bureaucrats elected by nobody are telling us, threatening us basically that it hurts national security.
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you are the one with the power, why don't you send it to me, we will put it on the air and let the public decide? is there a penalty for that? >> just remember, i'm not the one with the power. hypothetically, could i go to the house floor, could i go out in my official duties until the american public what's in the rest of that fisa? i could.oo however, you already see -- remember, most of the media and the left is against us. they don't want the rest of this out. they want to keep this hidden. can you imagine a field day would have against me or if any other republicans talked about what is now classified information? the fact of the matter is -- >> tucker: then who cares! so you have journalists arguing on behalf of of holding information back. that's insane. you live in a world where journalists are saying the public should know less, they have been discredited by definition. we don't have to listen to them. they are not journalists, they are something less, they are flacks. so is there a penalty for doinge that? that's a really important question. >> you understand. that's the problem. you understand this. there's a penalty.
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so we can't create a situation, but what can happen right now -- how do we get this done? the president just needs to step in and declassified us. he has said he doesn't want to get involved but, quite frankly, he needs to get involved in this. it doesn't involve him. if he would just declassify it, then we as congress would have no problem coming on your show and talking about this declassified information. >> tucker: yeah, because there's no argument against it. if you believe in democracy -- yeah. i hope someone will leak it to me. i do. i do, because i think the public has a right to know and i would love to know why the public doesn't have a right to know, and i love all these anchors telling me everyday i don't have a right to know. why? speak slowly so i can understand. it's infuriating.y thank you for all the work you have done. i hope someone will send that to me. we will put it right on the air immediately. thank you.u. >> thank you. >> tucker: better ids could protect american lives in the integrity of our elections, but they might make life harder for people who are here illegally, so of course the left opposes all that.
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he has read the full text of the application for the fisa warrant that allowed the government, the obama administration, to spy on carter page and the trump campaign.. he says the parts that had been redacted do not in any way threaten american national security, that it's merely butt-covering on the part of the bureaucracy. we asked the obvious question, which is "why don't you just tell us what's in it? let the public decide, let the public judge."." in the commercial break i got an interesting text, i'm going to read it on the air, from a very informed person in washington who said this, and i'm quoting. "dianne feinstein entered the cia torture memo into the record in the senate and was protected by the speech and debate clause. any republican with access to the fisa warrant could do the same, complete immunity awaits them." i believe that to be true. again, this just happened in a d commercial break and we haven't checked it, but i think that's right. i will say one more time, if you know what is in the redacted portions of that application, please send it to us. the public has a right to know.
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there's no excuse for withholding that from the public. let us decide. now the other big story. in response to the 9/11 attacks, congress passed a law, a famous one, requiring the adoption of a real i.d. across america. a lot of the hijackers had faket ids. the real i.d. imposes various requirements on photo identification to make it harder to counterfeit. beginning in 2020, you will need a real i.d. to fly an airplane, for example.to these ids should make us safer and our elections more secure, so of course, the left is totally opposed to them because illegal immigrants won't be able to get them. joe is an attorney from san francisco, candidate for district attorney there, and heo joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: i haven't checked the vote, i probably should have, but i don't think the real i.d. act faced really any opposition in the congress because it seemed like such a no-brainer. if you have a government i.d., we need to know that it's valid, it's real. it's for american citizens, and it kind of matters. 9/11 showed us that it matters.
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why are democrats suddenly against it? i'm confused. >> i think that's why we have a passport. the passport essentially does that. this, however, is basically another attempt by this president to influence an election, and that's why the democrats aren't for it. first it was the meeting with the russians, then it was the issue with the census, and now it's the real ids. it's a requirement that is basically -- it's a voter suppression strategy. it will influence elections by discouraging and preventing special groups such as lower income people, minorities, from actually going to the ballot and that's why we are against it. >> tucker: i'm a little confused by this for two reasons, i will just go in order. one, you have to be an american citizen to vote in a federal election.on so there's nothing wrong of course with requiring that only american citizens vote in federal elections, do you agree with that? >> not necessarily in san francisco. we have a school board election here that we actually allow
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immigrants -- >> tucker: in federal elections, it is a law that you have to be a citizen, yes. >> absolutely i agree with that. >> tucker: the second question is, i keep hearing this line that poor people or african-americans don't have ids. we actually checked the research on that and it's totally false. there's no large group of people in america that doesn't have a government i.d. there isn't one. but i'm wondering if you think it is patronizing for democrats to say "well, black people somehow can't get ids." don't you think that's kind of a slur, actually? >> it's not just about ids. the requirements of the real i.d. are that you have to have a u.s. passport, and if you look at who has u.s. passports who are talking about wealthy people, not minorities, higher educated people and so only i think about 42% of americans actually have u.s. passports. another problem with this is that it requires you to show proof of residency, where exactly it is that you live, so there's some privacy issues there. and one of those documents is actually a tax document.
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your irs taxes, not even our president will show us his taxes, but this will actually require you to show documentssh like that. that's another problem. >> tucker: you must be against social security numbers, too, i would think. >> no, not against social security numbers. those exist for a specific purpose.ot >> tucker: this would serve a specific purpose. oh, it doesn't. >> it doesn't.ke >> tucker: so -- you just said a minority of americans have u.s. passports. you are making an argument for and against passports within a minute of each other. even for an attorney that's pretty impressive. you just said this is wrong because it requires the use of passports and the next sentence you said people can just usese passports. [laughs] >> it's not just the use of passports. >> tucker: pick a side on the passport thing. >> that's a specific purpose for that specific document to travel
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abroad. if the government is trying to say you need to be a u.s. citizen to vote, then why not require them to get a passport? this actually requires them to do much more and it requires the state to do it, which is the problem because the next requirement as you mentioned int your prolog was that this is i going to be applied to voters and that's where the rubber meets the road.ha >> tucker: somehow democrats are claiming that it's racist to get someone's i.d. before he votes. but not racist to get i.d. before he gets welfare benefits or checks into a hotel or get the job or opens a bank account or flies on an airplane or does anything else in american life.f that's not racist, but asking for i.d. is racist because somehow black people can't get i.d., which is the most patronizing, i would say borderline racist, assumption ic have heard this week, right? >> statistically we have seen that lower minority people -- lower income people and minorities that the requirement for ids has been a segregation
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tool historically. so that's why the democrats -- >> tucker: lots of things have happened historically but rightb now every lower income person in america has an idea because you can't live without one. you can't get any benefits, you can't participate in any part oe american life without a government i.d., period. so everybody has a government i.d. and democrats throw up these fake studies which are totally false. everybody has an i.d., we knowen this, right? >> participating in a every aspect of american life if you are not a citizen of the united states and that's what this is basically requiring, that you are a citizen of the united states. >> tucker: okay. really quick, do you think it's racist to require a government i.d. to get on the plane or check into hotel? >> no, of course i don't. >> you don't, just checking. thank you, great to see you. [laughs] i love that!
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i don't know why, it's hilarious. our election system is supposed to be safe from efforts by noncitizens to vote, but not collect thousands of noncitizens are appearing on the voter rolls. you will hear on other channels that's a myth. it's not a myth, it's true. some of them are casting ballots. jay christian adams is president of the public interest legal foundation and joins us tonight with details. we keep hearing that's untrue, it's never happened. is it true? prove to us that it's true. >> you can go to our website and pull up the original records, tucker, of the dozens upon dozens, hundreds upon hundreds of people that are getting onto the voter rolls from russia, canada, mexico and some of them are tragic stories. refugees from sudan who said i told them i wasn't a citizen but they kept pushing me under motor voter to register to vote even though i told him i wasn't a citizen. >> tucker: how does that happen? i thought that there would be, since it is a federal law barring noncitizens from voting
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in federal elections, there would be some mechanism to prevent it. it seems like there's aa mechanism to encourage it. >> right. if the broken motor voter system. what happens when you go into any dmv office is they are pushing you and in places like pennsylvania we know that there is a glitch for two decades where noncitizens were getting on the rolls. we just published a report called stealing the vote about pittsburgh where noncitizens were getting on the rolls, they were voting, they were begging to be removed when they got their citizenship applications because they could go to jail. so what was happening was people were marking yes, i'm a citizen, but they were from russia or they were simply lying over and over again and voting, college students and get out the vote drives were registering and voting even if they were from other countries. the system does not have a check. if that's what people need to understand. there's no verification. it's an honor system and that's why so many aliens are getting on the rolls.. >> tucker: exactly.ic
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and the same people who lecture us about the sanctity of our democracy and the efforts of g foreign countries to subvert it at the same ones pushing this garbage. thank you for the work that you do on this.am i appreciate it. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the group organizing california succession plans for the united states are back with a new scheme that would take half the state and make an indian reservation out of it. amazing! their leader joins us to explain next. it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today.
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>> tucker: google shut down its chinese search engine in 2010. at the time they said it was because china was attacking free speech. but things have changed, the left doesn't care about free speech anymore so it was no surprise to see new reports that google is building a brand-new censored search engine that will allow it to reenter the chinese market, actively abetting the communist police state there and crushing dissent. google's behavior doesn't end there in china. at last year google opened a major artificial intelligence research center in that country even though china is aggressively pursuing military uses of artificial intelligence against the united states. scott is the author of search and destroy, you can't trust google, he joined us tonight. good to see you.r so if your corporate motto was don't be evil, it seems like helping a communist police state crushed dissent would fall into the evil category, right?
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>> absolutely. we are talking about how can you mess with 1.4 billion people, how can you aid and abet the oppression of the largest country in the world? >> tucker: it's hard to believe that a country with the market cap that google has, the most powerful company in history of the world, it may be the richest company in the history t of the world, would be so desperate for more market share that they would help prop up a police state, but that seems like what they are doing. >> what's really interesting -- google is all about power. it wants to be influential in wants to be everywhereng for everything and so that it can't stand the fact that it's not playing in china because it sees 1.4 billion people that it doesn't track and it doesn't know about and so that's really what they want. they really covet power and information is power to them. that's what has always scared me about this company.
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it makes no sense to centralize all the world's information in one place and controlled by one person. >> tucker: information is power for them, but their pitch was always information will empower the rest of us as well but the deal they are strikingng in china would withhold information from the population. they would be complacent in the brainwashing and propaganda efforts of the chinese government.. it's exactly the opposite of what they said google is about. >> what they are doing is completely opposite of what they promised everybody, or whatbo they've said they stood for. they've said don't be evil. they were for freedom of speech. they were for a free and open internet. they were for net neutrality, which is never supposed to block anything, and they were the main corporate funder for that andrn this is basically blocking every single freedom website in the world from getting into china. there's nothing neutral about that. there's nothing free, nothing open, nothing good about whatt they are talking about doing.
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>> tucker: it's fascist. where the hell is the americanha left on this? why are they continuing to defend this company, which is aiding, again, the oppression of its own people in a police state? >> hopefully they will comein around because this one is completely indefensible. even google themselves stood up and said we can't do this. this is too bad. seven years they are coming back and doing it in much larger scale than they were going to dc before. >> tucker: congress should take action against google immediately. thank you very much. thank you for their perspective and for your book. historic ceremony in hawaii tonight, the remains of korean war dead have finally been returned after more than 60 years from north korea. we will go there live justr ahead. welcome!
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♪ >> tucker: new hampshire is a pretty remarkable state. if you would know that if you have been there.ee one of the prettiest places on the continent. the granite mountains, deep forest, clean water. the people are impressive too. the kids get some of the highest s.a.t. scores in the country and it's safe. the crime rate is just a fraction of that and other states. a lot of people in new hampshire have guns and at the homicide rate is less than one-tenth the rate in washington, d.c. very few would new hampshire regiments are in prison. one of the country's lowest incarceration rates. most of them are working. the state has one of america's lowest unemployment rates.nt in contrast to places likemo illinois, new hampshire iste gaining population. people want to live there. not surprisingly. and yet according to "the new york times" new hampshire needs to change desperately and immediately. why is that? in a story over the weekend the times explained thato new hampshire is "nearly all white." 94% and this has caused "an array of problems." it doesn't prove that this is true, in fact there is zero evidence that the demographicscs
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of the state hurt the people who live there. new hampshire's actual problems, and it has some, have nothing to do with race at all.og instead the times argues that the whiteness is inherently offensive to others, especially immigrants. the paper interviewed a woman from columbia who explains that she cannot find enough spanish speakers in new hampshire and that is unacceptable. according to "the new york times" americans have an obligation to change their culture to suit foreigners and not the other way around. but more than anything, the paper said, the state must become less weight quickly, like the rest of the country. its current demographics aren't outrage. the group of self appointed officials and business leaders is working to change the racial makeup of new hampshire right now. thank god, says the times. what is so striking about the story is how ordinary it is. you hear things like this all the time from liberal outlets. some races are better than others they claim, that's pure racism, of course. it's the very definition of racism but it's so ubiquitous on the left that hardly anybody notices that were questions.
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you are not allowed to, by the way. her job is just to nod in bovine agreement. but nobody should agree to that. it's wrong and it's dangerous. attitudes like this will destroy our country faster than anthrax and al qaeda combined. it racism is poisoned. let's be clear so that even the bigots at "the new york times" can understand. no waste is inherently better than any other race. there can't be too many of any group. are there too many chinese in beijing? to many africans in congo? of course not. those are stupid questions.an the same is true for the people of new hampshire, many of whose family have been there for 100s of years. there's nothing wrong with the way theyey look. they are not defective or inadequate because of their skin color. it's amazing and i even have to say that but nobody is defectivt or inadequate because of his or her skin color. all of us should remember that and demand that our leaders remember it too. many have forgotten it.. the remains of korean war dead
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held for decades in north korea have finally come back to u.s. soil. they are in hawaii tonight. vice president mike pence was on hand to receive the remains. the historic event finished just a few minutes ago. pete hegseth cohost fox and friends on the weekend of course and he joins us from hawaii. hey, pete. >> hey, thanks for having me. >> tucker: how is it? >> i've got to tell you, being in that hanger, it was an emotional experience. first of all, before it even started, very apropos, the song "amazing grace" glade. "amazing grace," how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me.y i once was lost but now and found. if these young men who went to fight a war for our country finally returning home and i was also struck by the individual attention given to every flag dropped container. each one of these individual americans in our country we ask individual patriots to sign up and go fight for our freedoms that we have here, unlike communist and collectivist
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societies and waves of w men wih no care for what happens next. the fact that 65 years later this kind of attention is given, that we honor their sacrifice, the vice president there to give the keynote address. what's heartening to me as a veteran myself would help if i was lost on the battlefield any president in the future would h come find me but a big win for america and the testament i think to president trump's commitment for the right outcome on the korean peninsula. >> tucker: pete, is there any other country that tries as hard as the u.s. does over the many years that the u.s. does to get its war dead home? >> absolutely not. leave no man behind -- maybe israel, modern israel but over the centuries of our country, no country has valued life and value of the remains in the connection to that sacrifice more than the united states of america. no one has poured more soil on foreign countries for our own freedom and the freedom of others to defeat nazis and
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communists and stand up to rogue regimes and when we do so we make a promise to that soldier, in the community that we will do everything to bring them home alive or in this case missing in action or prisoner of war or deceased. something like this is a testament to future generations that our country will honor the promise that we made to you and there's a lot of personal stories, one in particular, frank salazar volunteered to gop to korea in 1952. he was killed on new year's eve of 1952 when he was shot down by ground fire. before he left he gave a hug to his 4-year-old girl, diane brown. she was in that hanger right over my shoulder. she's been looking for her father for over 60 years. he may be returned today or at least some of his comrades. a powerful testament to this great country. >> tucker: that's a tearjerker. pete hegseth and hawaii, thanks very much for that. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: the advocates of having california secede from t the rest of the country, it's a
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real thing, they have a new plan, they are going to turn have to state into an indian reservation. in the interest of bringing youv all the news we are going to talk to the leader of that movement after the break. and it's only on a few categories. and when those categories change, you gotta sign up again. when does it end?! with the capital one quicksilver® card, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it's like a cash back oasis. what's in your wallet? the world is full of different hair. that's why pantene has the perfect conditioners for everyone. from air-light foam, to nourishing 3 minute miracle, to the moisture-infusing gold series. we give more women great hair days - every day. pantene.
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♪ >> tucker: the 2016 presidential campaign was obviously contentious. sometimes it got violent, especially for trump supporters who dared to show their face in cities that didn't vote for trump.ot iner one trump rally san jose, california, many of t the president supporters were pelted with eggs and worse by a mob of protesters. police, by the way, did nothing. [inaudible]
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>> tucker: after the attacks, 20 trump supporters sued san jose police and now a court has cleared that lawsuit to go forward. a civil rights attorney, she represents the trump supporters in their lawsuit and she joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. i know we had you explain this to us a couple of times but the facts are so remarkable. can you just summarize them for our viewers who may not be familiar? because sure. s june 2nd, 2016, about a month before donald trump became the nominee, he had a big rally in san jose. i was honored to be there and give the pledge of allegiance and we had a great event. as we were leaving, the 250 riot gear clad san jose police were there on the scene, forced all
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of the people leaving to come out through one exit and directed them away from the most direct path to the garages andth into a riot of several hundred anti-trump violent types waving mexican flags with large 6-foot poles and the eggs are just one part of it. people were sucker punched, people were hit in the head with bags of rocks, close torn off of them. elderly people have their glasses ripped off and had to flee for their lives. it was like a third world country and the police stood there and did nothing and told people that they were not allowed to help. so a few weeks later we filed this federal civil rights lawsuit and the city police and the city appealed it to the ninth circuit where the ninth circuit ruled on friday that our case can go forward that the officers do not have qualified immunity because the allegations are so outrageous that they are clearly unconstitutional. >> tucker: they are outrageous. we're almost out of time. i can't believe that most cops
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in any city would be in favor of this. tell us where this order came from you believe? >> we believe the order cameme from the top, the mayor sam accardo, the chief of police, we believe they were involved. the district court did dismiss those two from the case and we don't get to appeal that until the end of the case but several police supervisors are now defendants in this case and hopefully will be held accountable for what they did that day. >> tucker: i hope so and i hope you will keep us posted. thanks very much. f >> thank you. >> tucker: speaking of california, the plan to break the state from the united states has a new wrinkle. the creation of the largest indian reservation using half the state of california. the details coming up.re ♪
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>> tucker: the plan to break california off from the rest of the united states is back with an interesting new twist. the leaders of cal exit have announced a new version of their scheme to create an independent california. in this, all federal lands in the state, about half of all of. california, will be returned to american indian tribes creating "the first ever autonomous native american nation in north america. organizers say this would provide a buffer zone between a the california republic and trump's america. cofounder of cal exit and always game enough to come on our show and we appreciate that. marcus, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me back on again and i came prepared. we brought you your shirt. i will ship it to you after the show. >> tucker: i love it. i will wear that, ironically, of course. w i'm looking at this plan and i noticed that the indiansns are getting the inland parts, the eastern parts of california and everybody else is getting the choice real estate where thc majority of the state's population lives. if you really wanted to atone for historic sins, why wouldn't you give the indians
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santa monica, la jolla, right?t? napa, why not do that? >> good point. that's a great point, you aree totally right. the best thing to do for native american people would be to give them back all of the land and everybody who's not native would leave and then petition to become an immigrant and native people could choose who they wanted to come back in. n obviously that's not going to happen. so what we did at cal exit was say, what's the best thing that we could do that is not going to fix genocide, isn't going to fix everything, not make it all perfect, but what's the biggest leap that we could make in the right direction? and we felt that giving over half of california and basically the american controled part to native people who actually owned the land would at least be a step in the right direction ando i want to point out -- >> tucker: you are basing this -- can i ask you? i know. it's california. you know what i mean? you will figure it out, it'syo a work in progress. but is there a specific indian reservation that you think is a
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kind of model for good governance that you are basing this on? can you point to a reservation currently in the united states and say we want california to be more like that? >> no. first, we don't call them indians, we call them natives or indigenous. second, we don't call it a reservation.he >> tucker: a lot of indians call themselves indians, just so you know. >> i'm not trying to debate, i'm just saying how we refer to it. it's definitely not a reservation and to answer your question, we are doing it is not a reservation because there is no good model of a reservation. reservations are a failed systems by americans to make up for the genocide that they caused against native people. >> tucker: i agree with that actually. >> "forbes" magazine pointed this out. >> tucker: it's demonstrably true, the reservations are ara disaster for the people who live on them. i totally agree with that. are you worried that this could be open to exploitation?y what would prevent elizabeth warren from coming in as an indian and saying i am now the
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king of this new country? would there be some test to make sure that you really are an indian before you take possession of half of california? >> i want to point out what i said was that was reservations aren't working out because of america. america does not let native people own their land. if they are not able to take profits from it. the fbi can go and harass them any time. the schools provided for them are horrible. the court systems provided are horrible and they don't have the ability to protect their ownwn drinking water as we saw with the protest recently. to answer your questionen specifically, elizabeth warren would not be able toec come in there unless the native peopleei of that area said she's welcome. >> tucker: she is a native. slow down, she is a native person. >> if they didn't do that it doesn't matter what she says, she wouldn't be allowed in. >> tucker: now you're winninge me over. i just want to know how this works. the idea, this is atonement for things that happened a long time ago. so if one of my ancestors had t something stolen from him 150
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years ago, does that mean that the descendants of the person who stole it owe me the money with interest if i can find them? this is under your kind of system of justice.m >> that's a good question. >> tucker: yes, it is. >> so not at an individual level. so if your grandfather did something racist and horrible you shouldn't be punished for that, however, you did benefit from it, but it's a mistake to go after you as a person, so what we're saying is that the people and the government representing the people should make amendments. we are not saying we are pickinr on individuals, we are sayingul the government of california -- >> tucker: millions of people live in this area. we are almost out of time, but what's going to happen millions of people whoe, live in the country who aren't indian? >> the primary trump voters who live in that area will have to do what brown skinned people tell them to do because brown skinned people will be in charge and if they don't like that they are welcome to leave california. >> tucker: wow, reeducation camps, i knew it was going to get to this!
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what i love about you is your honesty.ne we are out of time, nine seconds left, good to see a you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 for> the show that is the sworn enemy of flying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink.er sean hannity right now! hey, sean. >> sean: you have the patience of job. great show. >> tucker: [laughs] thanks. i appreciate it. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." one of the single most obvious examples in american history. talk about tucker and his groupthink. every single hour of every single day weekend, week out, now year in and year out your mainstream media has dedicated its coverage to one thing, one thing only, maligning the president you elected, his agenda and everyone who dares to support him. still, one professional from trump hater over at fake news cnn, jim acosta is positively feigning outrage shock that trump supporters didn't give hif a warm welcome at yesterday's

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