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sacrifice of all of those in the service so we can live free. we pray for them and their families tonight. all right. we are out of time. we'll always be fair and balanced. let not your heart be troubled because laura ingraham is backf in d.c. tonight. good, back in the swamp, in the sewer. >>e laura: by the way, i charged my dinner last night at frisco's to you. is that okay? [laughter] >> sean: everybody else did, don't worry! that happens regularly. don't worry about it. >> laura: i was like, can we have the silver oak 2002, please? >> sean: you are so mean! i would have gladly paid. next time tell me. you have to steal it, like a liberal stealing stuff, you want free stuff. >> laura: well, hanty, what can i say -- hannity, what can i say? hey, congrats on the july ratings, number one! congrats, man. >> sean: congrats to you
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killing it at 10:00, tucker's killing it. i'm proud to be part of this team. i'm like a bridge between two generations of fox. i'm the old man.ra >> laura: great show tonight, sean, as always. this is "the ingraham angle." back in washington, d.c., as sean said. what an exciting show. great guests, including an unbelievable twist in the mueller investigation. we'll tell you why hillary clinton and barack obama suddenly have a new connection to it. plus, our "seen and unseen"on segment, raymond arroyo digs into some utterly bizarre trends among all millennials and hillary clinton's expansion into tv. a disturbing report on how easy it may be for non-u.s. citizenss to register to vote and cast a ballot. michelle malkin joins us for what it means in the upcoming election. but first, the defenders of lawlessness. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." if you want to see just how radical, how extreme democrats have become an immigration, check out the freaks at their
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anti-i.c.e. protests. the siege at the i.c.e. building at portland, oregon, started june 17th and continues today. >> protesters even followed them home to their residences, followed them when they went to pick up their kids at day care. repeatedly threatening their lives. this was an absolute siege of a i.c.e. facility. a lot of people don't know this. this really isn't getting covered in the mainstream mediad we lost that building for ten days, almost two weeks. the protesters took control ofui that building. again, these were not normal protesters. folks like antifa, violent, militant groups. >> laura: you know what you haven't seen the media coverage that aspect of it? we have new information for you tonight. to top it all off, portlandat mayor ted wheeler shot down the terrified i.c.e. officers calls for help. saying that police would respond to them, "when there were
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eminent life safety threats." okay. last week, wheeler told the demonstrators to peacefully disengage for their own safety. heck with the safety of themo i.c.e. employees! this is totally out of control. it is backfiring big-time on the democrats. a recent reuters poll found that immigration was the top issue for u.s. voters heading into the november 2018 midterm election.w it edged out even the economy. it's hard to believe that the voters concerned about immigration here is focused on what the left wants to do, this phony concern for the kids at the border. i don't think so. remember, not so long ago, democrats at least gave lip service to our basic right to border enforcement. >> it is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we
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have seen in recent years. >> illegal immigration is wrong. a primary goal of comprehensive immigration reform must be to dramatically curtail future illegal immigration. >> look, i voted numerous timess when i was a senator to send money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. >> laura: well, and remember this from president obama back in 2014, who sounded a lot like trump on this issue, except for the no protester marching part. >> do not send your children to the borders. if they do make it, they'll get sent back. more importantly, they may not make it. >>, laura: of course, almost none of them were sent back.t instead of warning of the dangers of making family treks across the border like president obama just did, the new, more antifa-friendly
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democrats warned about in america that actually punishes border jumpers. and they are never happier on the left than when they are using kids as political bonds. -- pawns. >> i've heard of the stories -- with i.c.e. >> year-old infants being reported, the judges, it's almost chuck e. cheese's uses things like this to check parents and their children when they are there. >> laura: ok. with that absurd analysis, vermont would be better off with chuck e. cheese's mascot as one of their senators. oh, my gosh. chuck e. cheese's does a better job of keeping parenting -- here's a i.c.e. official, attempting to introduce this concept called applying the facts to the law. to those democrat senator from hawaii, mazie hirono.
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>> again, i think we are missing the point. these individuals are there because they have broken the law. there have to be a process. >> they have broken the law only is deemed so by the president. >> no, ma'am. they are there for a violation of title eight of the immigration illegal entry, criminal and civil violation. >> my understanding that under your tolerance, you through them not under civil proceedings but for criminal proceedings. >> they are both. >> i'm confused. > laura: ok. god bless her. she's confused. all that volcanic ash -- if they -- has the volcanic ash blowing across hawaii affecting that senator's cognitive skills? what don't you understand? violate the laws and there'll be a penalty.y. the pundits wonder how trump got elected. roughly 2500 children who were separated from their family units at the u.s.-mexico border. more than 1800 have already been reunited with their parents..- of the 700 children are so who are still not reunited, 431 have
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parents now outside the united states. those parents were either deported or voluntarily abandoned their children, a fact that is conveniently omitted from the dem-tifa crowd. democrats wailing over the plight of the children arehi completely ignoring the facts. due to domestic or drug abuse, many of these parents are now deemed unfit to care for their children or dangerous for their children. so news flash: u.s. government is protecting the border kids today. or do the democrats want them to be reunited with parents who could traffic them or who are criminals themselves? is that what they want? by the way, the kids who may have a chance of being deported back home, to be in their homeland with their parents, are now being blocked in a lawsuit by the aclu! by the way, wasn't that
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americans civil liberty union? nowadays illegal immigrant civil liberties union. meanwhile, we are caring for these children in the u.s. taxpayers are footing the bill. but who cares about these facts. when peddling emotions, dripping with concern, is so much easier. >> melania trump went to the border and now these empty -- and asked these empty questions about how and when these families will be put back together. she doesn't care! she's planning christmas at the white house. are you idiots running this country? you seem like child abusers to me ask any doctor, ask any child welfare specialist,ask any psychiatrist, ask yourself, is this abuse? this is abuse! >> laura: that was abuse just watching that. you ever notice how the empathy,
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though, just runs one way? it's never the same kind of empathy for the families victimized by violent illegal alien crime. or dwi deaths because of illegal immigrants. or drug trafficking. gunrunning. never any empathy for americans who have been pushed out of their jobs in the workforce for cheaper illegal labor. b never any empathy for i.c.e. agents, who have their reputations smeared or lives threatened, for just doing their jobs. >> our commitment to consistent and fair enforcement of the law is demonstrated on a daily basis by the integrity, the unbiased professionalism, and the compassion of the men and women of cbp exhibit toward the aliens we encounter, particularly toward the most vulnerable. we do not believe our humanity behind when read report for duty. >> laura: that was a great line. americans are just a lot smarter.s than the left and their media poodles think.
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americans understand that we are not a country without borders. of course we have compassion. that is why we are taking pretty good care of them, all things considered. they are not with their families but they are being fed, clothed, doctor's appointments, entertainment, sports, schooling, interpreters, lawyers.te that is not nothing. and americans will not be guilted into supporting politicians who put the interests of illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens. here is why congressman ron desantis will be the next governor of florida.sa he gets it. >> we can fight illegal immigration! [cheers and applause] all we got to do is enact e-verify and stop sanctuary cities! >> we want maximum border security and respect for our heroes, i.c.e., border patrol, and law enforcement, and we are going to have tremendous border security that will include the wall! that will include the wall.
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>> laura: the applause went on and on last night. the biggest applause wind when the subject of immigration came up. look, in my mind, it's actually sad, it's really sad to see what happened to the party of fdr and john f. kennedy, the democraticw party. on this issue and so many others, they used to believe america was worth defending. her laws, her constitution, the declaration, her borders, her history. now their most vocal voices believe it is time to destroy that old order and replace it with something closer to socialism. but we are not about to let that happen.ngis and that is "the angle." joining me now for reaction is tom homan, the former acting director of the i.c.e. mr. homan, thank you so much for being here. really appreciate it. >> no problem. >> laura: i got to tell you, when i see
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what's going on in portland, oregon, beautiful portland, a lot of history of political activism, that's fine, this is not your ordinary political activism. what's happening there that the american people are not seeingol because the media will notha adequately cover this story? >> during the time i saw your clips earlier, and chris kramer is right. the mayor has refused to taker action on those folks that have illegally prevented us from doing our jobs by shutting our building for over over a week. how many child molesters, predators, weren't arrested that week? how many criminal aliens, aliens would enter this country illegally and commit yet another crime weren't arrested that week? a lot of criminals are now walking the streets of portland that would have been arrested that week. the mayor turned his back on the citizens of portland for his own political ambitions.ou >> laura: now, chris crane was talking about the antifa infiltration, or some would say takeover of this protest. are the run-of-the-mill, kind of millennial protesters, with the magic marker signs, and the black mask people, kind of working hand in glove there from what you are gathering? >> yeah, i watched video of the
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portland office showed on forre days. -- showdown for several days. antifa was there. in a matter of fact, they hungr their antifa flag up over -- >> laura: whoa. whoa. whoa. they took down u.s. flag, they climbed the building, they took on the u.s. flag, and they replaced it with an antifa flag? >> yes, ma'am. i.c.e., the first thing they did when they took a building back, the patriots raised the building back up.th >> laura: only thing i can think about it is when isis was rolling through parts of iraq. they were going to those christian villagers in mosul and so forth. they were knocking down those churches, taking up the cross, and raising the isis flag. it's a form of domestic terror. >> it's pathetic, what's going on in portland. i don't know who is worse than that mayor or the mayor in oakland, philadelphia, the whole bunch of them right now, who have never accepted this president, and they will put their own political ambitions ahead of the public safety of their citizens. i want to remind the portland
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mayor, because i'm sure he'll hear about this, these i.c.e. employees, are also tax payers and citizens of the city of portland. he has a duty to protect them. >> laura: zephyr teachout, interesting name, democratic candidate for a new york attorney general, calls to abolish i.c.e. >> i.c.e. has to be abolished and as attorney general, i will continue to speak out against i.c.e., i will prosecute i.c.e. for their criminal acts. we have stories of consistent abuse., the idea that we could call this law enforcement is a real offense to the idea of law itself. >> laura: a real offense. i think she's mixing up -- i think she means "offense." that's okay. >> i've never seen that video but now i'm more irritated than i was when i walked in here. that attorney general -- >> laura: t candidate. >> candidate? i hope that is as far as she
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gets. look, prosecute i.c.e. agents? i.c.e. officers and agents have taken more than 5,000 criminal aliens up the street in new york. that walked out of there sanctuary jails. i.c.e. has done more for public safety in that state in their own governor has. i.c.e. officers on the northern border have shut down opioid trade and -- >> laura: but they say, tom, the reason they're upset is because you are separating families, you are focused on deporting these families, when you should be focused on the illegal immigrants. they are conflating border patrol, hhs, detainment centers, and i.c.e. they are putting them in one big pot.t.pa so they're saying, well you could do a better job if you weren't focusing on these poor children. >> let me tell you about separating families. watch the hearing and i was quite disturbed by some of the questions by democrats. they kept wanting to put the blame on border patrols and i.c.e. we have a process, we've been separating families for decades, first of all. >>, laura: decades. >> decades. they want to blame somebody? congress need to look in the mirror. i have been up on the hill several times along with the
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head of cdp and cis talking about the loopholes, if they want these folks to see a judge and claim asylum, we do, too. there is one way to guarantee to see a judge is to keep it in a family residential center. they don't want to do that. they refuse to fix the loopholes, the attorney general did what he had to do operationally to defend our borders. the attorney general did exactly what he should have done. >> laura: zero tolerance is the way to go. he was right. we have a runaway judge situation in this country. they are acting as super legislators. >> a judge in san diego, he ordered during the unification stop, the dna testing, when we did the dna testing, 55 and 7% -- 5% to 7% were not the parents. if you bring that to 2500 people, how many children do we have to release them to people that want their parents becausec that judge decided that dna wasn't important. >> laura: and 20% of kids
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were not brought across by their parents -- >> there's 10,000 children in custody, hhs that were separated by their parents who hired criminal organizations to put their credit in the trunk of a car and smuggled into united states.at that is child abuse.mu >> laura: who are the parents who send their kids across the border alone? what kind of parent is at? >> the administration of -- putting your kid in the trunk of a car and smuggling to united states. >> laura: tom homan, hey, great to see you. we miss you at the homeland. >> i'm in the fight. >> laura: good for you. bob mueller is the mayor to make it significant concession to the trump legal team. he's agreed to reduce the number of questions for president trump and a potential interview from his initial list of 49. mueller is also willing to accept some answers in writing, though he wants oral ancestorac -- answers to others. trump attorney rudy giuliani responded to the tug-of-war over an interview earlier today. >> they sent us a proposal. we responded to that proposal.de it took about ten days and yesterday, we got a letter back. we are in the process of responding. at the end of it, they should render their report, put up -- i
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guess, put up or shut up, what you got? we have every reason to believe they don't have anything.ut >> laura: joining us now to analyze, alan dershowitz, author of the book, "the case against impeaching trump," along with sol wisenberg, from the whitewater investigation. professor dershowitz, what you make of this development? the supposed concessions. they don't seem like huge concessions to me but nevertheless down from 49 questions, some in writing. does this change the calculus? >> i don't think so. it's not about quantity. it's all about quality. all he has to do is ask one question, what was your motive, why did you fire comey, or why did you ask comey maybe to go easy on flynn? all they want to do is get him to say in a context where he would be charged with a crime, something that is controversial, and something that somebody else will come in and testify and say, no, he told me something different.
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no, he told me that his motive was this or that. motives are so vague and subjective. and you can be charged with lying to prosecution officials, even if you tell the truth. if there is another witness who comes in and gives a different account and the prosecutor is trying to get you. they want to put you in perjury trap and believes or says he believes the other witness whotr may not only be singing but he may be composing in order to get a better deal, you've walked into a perjury trap so in the end, i don't think his lawyers are going to let president trump testify orally at all. look, the president may get his way. >> laura: yeah. >> he says he wants to testify, but no lawyer is going to walk his client into a perjury trap. >> laura: tonight, "the new york times," sol is reporting that the president is pushing for an interview with mueller against the advice of counsel. i don't know if this is kind of -- you know, they're playing around here on this and it's
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good p.r. or if that's the real deal, but let's pretend for the moment that's real. your reaction? >> i think it is suicidal. i think it's idiotic. i agree with the professor. here is the real piece here. -- the real key here. based on everything we know, they don't have anything close to an obstruction case on the president. but it is much easier, in addition to the stuff that professor dershowitz said, it ic much easier to prove a case of lying to the government undere 18 u.s. code section 1,001 than it is to prove an obstruction c case, particularly based on what they have. it has to be material, but then threshold for a material lie is extremely low. and their cases are legion of convicting people under 1,001 and including martha stewart. it's a terrible strategy and i can't believe -- i would physically restrain my client in these circumstances.
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one of the other cable news networks recently, first of all -- you probably are bombarded with updates on former trump campaign chair paul manafort's federal trial kicked off today. despite no allegations of russian collusion, he is facing serious prison time in a case brought by the special counsel, bob mueller. it's not related that manafort's work that russian friendly ukrainian political party that predated his time at the trump campaign. it got swept up in this whole deal. interestingly, there are reports that mueller has referred three cases to federal prosecutors in manhattan involving high-profile lobbyists who also worked on behalf of that same ukrainian linked group without registering as foreign agents. haven't heard much about that. have you? could it be that, because, welln one of those names is tony podesta? super lobbyist and the democratic party and brother off john, the chairman of hillary's failed 2016 campaign. or that other name, greg craig? former white house counsel for barack obama. re-joining us now for reaction, alan dershowitz, and sol wisenberg. okay, guys.
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how potentially serious, or not, is the deal with referring both podesta and greg craig to the southern district of new york? greg craig, full disclosure, work for my old law firm, and they parted ways. months back. let's start with you, professor dershowitz. what is going on here? >> greg is a great guy. he lives on martha's vineyard with me. i see them periodically over the summer. full disclosure. look, this proves that you never needed a special counsel. they are taking these cases mori and more and referring them to ordinary u.s. attorney's office. the manafort case could have been tried by the u.s. attorney's office in northern virginia. the other manafort case by the district of columbia he was -- u.s. attorney's office. why do we need a special counsel? the cases don't involve russia for the most part were the only cases that involve russia are cases that will never be tried
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at all, the 12 russians. they are not coming to disneyland any day soon to be served. they're not going to be extradited by vladimir putin. so we are seeing more and more proof that we never needed a special counsel. the special counsel will end up filing a report and getting some low-hanging fruit and getting some convictions, largely unrelated to what his mandate originally was. i didn't like the special counsel when they were appointed to get bill clinton, i didn't like them in other cases. i don't like them now. it is against the principles of democracy. >> laura: similar, sol, seems interesting. we're vacuuming up a lot of information about people, and it's going up to the special -- this other southern district of new york, same deal with michael cohen. it doesn't seem like it is expanding to places that have nothing to do with the original charge. >> two things in mind. one, i think probably, if it has related gone to the southern district, unlike michael cohen where they could say it is not in our bailiwick, here, this
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part of the original manafort thing, but here, they willy, decline those cases, and my guess, and if mueller declines cases against democrats, he would get a tremendous amount of criticism for it. so it's easier to send it to the southern district. > laura: it looks better for mueller, who's been accused by the president of having 17 -- prosecutors -- >> i don't agree --- >> laura: not all of them have ties to the democrats. >> the president shouldn't be doing that. here's the other thing. here's a difference. right or wrong, mueller seesdnha manafort as a key to his russia conspiracy case. he believes, right or wrong, that manafort knows that something manafort is the key and that is why he is going after manafort that he is clearly going to -- >> laura: did judge ellis say that again today? >> he said it repeatedly. s he says i don't like it. the system let him do that. every prosecutor has done that at some point in their career. that is the key to mueller. manafort is the key.
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the question is, if he's convicted, does he become what susan mcdougall, and say, nuts to you, i'm still not talking to you, or does he say, he'd rather talk if he has any information? >> laura: he was there for five minutes at the trump campaign, i mean --. >> four or five months! >> laura: then trump is worried at all about manafort. i know k for a fact he's not worried about it dershowitz -- >> you made a very important point in that is it's much easier for you as attorney to decline a case. that's why we should have u.s. attorneys. they're professional prosecutors. they don't a have a target. they can decline cases if the facts and the law don't warrant prosecution. >> laura: let's advance the narrative. >> they'll call for a special counsel to do that. >> laura: let's advance this narrative today.at we have this trial kicking off in the eastern district of new york and in instruct me that much of the time in -- it struck
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me most of the time in these conversations, much of the conversation went to paul manafort's wealth. and there was one point where they brought in this witness, okay, maximilian katzman, former manager of the new york city men's warehouse store. he claimed manafort spent $929,000 on suits between 2010 and 2014.. judge ellis then says -- can't -- cantankerous judge ellis whom i love dearly, all this evidence shows that mr. manafort had a lavish lifestyle. he had a nice home with a pool and a gazebo. it's not relevant." of course he went out to make a really funny comment about the clothes, saying -- he spent a lot of clothes and it wasn't even that well-dressed. is it a crime -- is a crime not to spend a lot of money, but we got a lot of people guilty of that in this town, washington, d.c. >> if he doesn't say men's warehouse, i don't know anything about it. >> laura: i like t.j. maxx. you like men's warehouse! >> that is my kind of judge. that is my kind of judge. i will never be convicted of anything, expensive clothing is
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a prerequisite. b i also go to men's warehouse. of the interesting thing is under the law, -- the law is terrible at showing lavish lifestyle. under the law, the prosecutors, in most courts would be allowed to say that but judge ellis really doesn't like it. every time he makes those comments, the jury is listening and they know he doesn't like it. >> laura: professor dershowitz, at one point, they talked about the fact that manafort used foreign wire transfers to pay for his clothes. this maximilian katzman, who is the kato kaelin of the trial so far, he says -- he says, well, that is the only customer i've ever had who paid that way. who cares? this is not against the law. i don't know what manafort did. i think this whole thing -- i don't know, my antenna, my spidey senses are going up about this case. i don't know if it is rick gates, if they are afraid to bring him and as a prosecution witness, they seem to be hesitant about bringing gates in, which i find interesting. professor?
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>> whenever you have a witness who has admitted to lying, it is a very hard job to put them on the stand.d. the witness always says, i lied in the past, yes iknow that, but now i'm telling the truth.wy the lawyer for the defense says, you expected benefits from telling the truth. don't you expect to get a good deal? so it's very hard to get a successful conviction based on a flipped witness who might not only be singing, but composing. this judge is very sympathetic to that. he used that term. he said sometimes witnesses who are squeezed, not only think about compose, and make the case -- sing but compose and make the case better in order to get a better deal! >> laura: really quick, they talked about not doing that early morning raid. apparently, the fbi had a key to his condo. they said, how did you have a key? we said, we don't know how we had the key. a little weird. a little weird. again, this is my own litigator sense. that is interesting. >> listen, gates is going to testify.
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♪ >> laura: it's time now for our "seen and unseen" segment where we expose what's behind the big cultural stories of the day. [laughs] sorry, we are laughing about something else. young americans are developing some very peculiar new habits. for more we are joined by fox news contributor,g "new york times" best-selling author of the will wilder, raymond arroyo. let start with some trends that you picked up among millennials and they might be -- what dose they tell us about the new generation? >> you don't want to overgeneralize because there are some great things about millennials. they are contemplative, they're reusing -- >> laura: con temp plative?
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the laptop people at starbucks? >> they are. they are willing to change, find their destiny. they are more mobile than we are. here's what they are doing. they have adopted what is called small house movements, where they live in campers, or rvs..av >> laura: or containers! >> these little babies, they are offering to them, they are also living in pods and theirre parents' backyards. now three fourths of all campers are generation x and millennials because they are transient, they are impermanent a little bit, but there is an interesting thing i saw in the "los angeles times," a ton of other periodicals. they are green thumbs among the millennial generation. >> laura: how do we go from containers to green thumbs? >> i will make this fit, hold on. listen. >> laura: ok. >> a 2017 gardening survey found that of the 6 million new gardeners in america, 5 million are age 18-34. they are millennials they are cohabitating with plants, laura plates. when there is too much of a commitment of a cat.co
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>> they don't want to go all the way with a cat -- >> laura: a cactus? >> a cactus or a fern will work. let's go back to the house. they are jamming their apartments with greenery because they want a sense of connectedness. my take on this is they want something natural in an impermanent world. my advice, get a pet, get a child. >> laura: get a child? where are you going to get that? at costco? >> got to get married first. that's usually how it happens. my advice, don't spend your youth on the ficus.>>ri it would not give you a mother's day card. when you get old, and will not order you. -- water you, is don't do that. there is more we have to dof that, and of course, i have to tell you about a great decision by netflix this week.et they released a notice to subscribers that they would soon be streaming a new documentary with a very snappy title.. "the honorable minister louis farrakhan: my life's journey through music" it was called. this week, netflix said that the documentary wouldn't be airing on their service because of a technical mix-up.
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this is based on a five cd musical release. i had forgotten -- >> laura: i played it on my radiors years ago! >> i had forgotten. >>ld laura: screwy louie. >> i wouldn't google that. >> laura: he's talented! >> a calypso singer. >> laura: harry belafonte of calypso. >> harry belafonte of hate. here is his calypso -- a little bit of his upcoming album that the documentary is based on. >> an album that speaks from the pain of the heart of a little boy wanting to see his people, this is a project that attracted some of the most brilliant,t, award-winning musicians and artists. >> now chaka khan, stevie wonder -- i hope he is going to sing a duet of "you are the anti-semite of my life" -- thatd would be cute together. chaka khan, common, why are these people lending their name to someone like louis farrakhan? this man has peddled hate like no one else.
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i have to tell you, when i started listening to some of his original compositions, laura, this is something you could put a playlist together, it's really fun -- l >> laura: for a radio show, yeah. >> for the radio show. he's got a song called "heed the call, yell, of white man's heaven is a black man hell." listen. >> of torture, and misgivings, yet the bible speaks of a heaven filled with material luxury, which the white man and the preacher has right here. >> laura: [ laughter ] that's quite a --. >> the white man's day is done. >> laura: there's no rhyming, i notice. this is like a cornel west, cornel west with reverend wright. >> it is william shatner meets reverend wright. >> laura: what is it? the "space odyssey" music in the background?
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hurry up. >> hillary, branching into tv, you teased this earlier. she has a new deal with steven spielberg. >> laura: of course! >> let me tell you about this, how did you get a good, no tv experience at all. she read a book on the suffragette movement. you like to become a product to her lawyer, bob barnett, he took it to spielberg, he bought it and made her an executive producer. this is how it happens. >> laura: this is how hollywood takes care of its own. >> you know what you need to do? find a book and bring it to your lawyer.. >> laura: i'm sure. by the way, the notorious rbg, i was down at -- dinesh d'souza, i went to the premiere of his movie, guess what the first break poster was, the first -- ruth bader ginsburg. the new superhero of the left. now the obama's netflix, hillary -- >> hillary is at cbs. she is going to be on "madam secretary" on their premiere, playing herself.fl you can dvr it. you love it. >> laura: with harvey weinstein gone, the clintons needs a benefactor in hollywood. raymond, thank you so much. i can't get that screwy louis out of my head.
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>> you will be grooving to that. >> laura: c no. no. no. that is. i'm surprised he: didn't do it in numerology. remember the numerology? he loves the numbers. >> this is new to me. >> laura:um well, the left is enraged by a new documentary, speaking of dinesh d'souza, chocked full of inflammatory claims about democrats' history. he joins us with his reaction right after his world premiere tonight. the uproar next.t. h his reaction right after his world premiere tonight. the upper next
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♪ >> laura: few people are better at getting under democrats' skin than documentary filmmaker dinesh d'souza. in his new movie out tonight, riling up liberals with some incendiary claims about the left's history. here's a sample. >> lincoln was elected to unite the country and stop slavery. democrats smeared him, went to war against him, assassinated him. who are the fascists?
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>> both mussolini and hitler set up and ran welfare states. >> this was done by the liberals , the people who wanted to improve society. >> laura: joining us more -- joining us with more, dinesh d'souza, whose film, as i said, had the big washington, d.c., premiere tonight. dinesh, good to see you. >> laura: you are really kicking the hornets nest with this film. it's out tonight. you have a book out today, we'll have you on radio tomorrow, the next day. they are saying you are making leaps of logic, democrats are the real racists, look at where they are doing to these poor kids in the detention centers. trump doesn't like brown people. he's putting his immigration enforcement into place. what is your response to all these critics?aceyop >> there's a lot here. the movie focuses on two things, racism on the one hand, and fascism on the other. as you know, from the time trump was elected, the left has been dropping these two big incendiary bombs, not just on trump but on the right, but on conservatives and republicans. so the movie has a historical
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component because it dives into what is the meaning of fascism, who is the real party of racism, but where it really kicks offff with that looks at where is the fascism today, where's the racism today?? and it shows that it is the fascist and racist tail belong not on the republican elephant but on the democratic donkey. >> laura: getting a lot of hits from "variety," "the guardian," they love you, "in this embarrassing new film from the far right provocative -- all personal attacks, dinesh d'souza, he compares donald trump to abraham lincoln, claims hitler was lgbt friendly and calls antifa the real nazis." >> let's talk about this trump-lincoln business. the idea of morphing their heads together -- but look at how similar their situations are. in 1860, outsider president, lincoln, comes in. he's narrowly elected in a three-man race.id and the moment he gets in, all hell breaks loose. the democrats in the north are calling for his assassination, which happens eventually.
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the democrats in the south are f willing to break off the country. so they are trying to get rid of lincoln, you may say, by any means necessary. look at how eerily similar that is our moment. trump faces a democratic party that is still refusing to accept the result of a loss of election, wants to get rid of trump however they can, and is pursuing all the strategies, including the inflammatory race card and fascism card, to discredit trump. >> laura: this antifa group is terrifying. black masks, whipping molotov cocktails, throwing desks through windows, with signs, "stop the fascists." they are antifascist. you point out in the film, which i was lucky enough to see the first 20 minutes or so before i had to come to the show, they f want to stop speech. you have dealt with it on college campuses for decades. they want to stop speech, stop debate, and they are terrorizing people from speaking out. >> they look like fascist, thete
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act likes fascists except they could claim to be antifascist. i think i am also red, not just -- i think i'm also worried not just by fascists on the street butde i would call antifa the fascism of the deep state. when a party employs the weapons of the state, the fbi, irs -- -- that's as close as you'll get to clinical fascism style. yet it's coming from the left. >> laura: richard spencer is him on the left holds up as -- he's alt-right, he is the real republican party, he's racist, and you actually interviewed him. he was at that charlottesville rally. you interviewed him in the movie. let's watch. >> what would be your take on reagan?? >> i do not think he was a great president. >> who is your favorite president? >> there was something about jackson. they are something about polk,
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as well, someone who only served one term. >> jackson and polk, bothhi democrats. >> party -- party is just the vessel that one uses. >> jackson is the founder of the democratic party. >>nd laura: dinesh, you and i have been doing this politics culture stuff since we were at dartmouth together in the 1980's. have you ever -- i've never heard of this richard spencer until 5 minutes ago. i literally had never heard of him. >> there is a deep strain of leftism inside the white nationalist movement. jason kessler, the organizer of the charlottesville rally, was an obama supporter. think about it. a white supremacist who voted for obama. and in occupy wall street guy. now this guy, richard spencer, and the core part of the interview, i asked him, where do your rights come from? they come from god? he goes, no. we don't have any rights. the right that we have are given to us by the government. so he's a statist, he's aha collectivist. and yet the left, when they see
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this, it horrifies them because it doesn't fit their narrative. and so they don't want to interview spencer in this kindfi of thing. i think the movie in a way blows the whistle on charlottesville and that whole charlottesville narrative and it blows it up and shows that there is a whole unreported side of it in which the left statists are trying ultimately to smear the right with guys like spencer, who are their willing accomplices. >> laura: do you think this movie in a way is a combination of, the liberal education -- -- you wrote the -- what's it called? >> the end of racism. >> laura: "the end of racism." a lot of the stuff you've written about in a way comes together right before the midterms. everybody has to see this film. >> the race narrative i have been pursuing for 20 years. the fascism narrative is new and it's eye-opening to me. we have a scene in the movie, of nazis getting ready to pass the nuremberg laws against the jews and they have the laws of the democratic jim crow south and may have them as the nazi laws.a >> laura: we can't expect our
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high school kids to learn any of these facts today. congratulations, book, movie, you're driving allll the right people crazy. thanks so much for being here tonight. but just how easy is it for noncitizens to vote? cast ballots? can't be that easy, right? guess what, michelle malkin will tell us the truth next. allots? can be that easy, right? guess what, michelle malkin will tell us the truth
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>> laura: a disturbing report is raising questions about non-u.s. citizens' ability to register to vote and cast ballots. "the washington times" reportedt "noncitizens are signing up to vote in states including pennsylvania, new jersey, and virginia, according to the research where the public interest legal foundation, the nonprofit organization. they advocate for election integrity. they found that a lot of those that noncitizens manage to cast ballots as well. yet, here's a common refrain we always hear from democrats. >> the voter fraud mantra is said so often, it is almost saia robotically, that some people have unthinkingly begun to believe that the issue is real. >> this whole notion of elections, or voting fraud -- this is something that has -- that is constantly been disproved. this is fake news.
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the notion that they are a whole bunch of people out there who are going out there and are not eligible to vote and want to vote. we have the opposite problem. >> laura: joining us now with the reaction, conservative commentator, crtv host michelle malkin. those golden oldies are just -- they are the gifts that keep on giving. they are always worried about voter i.d. because they think it is so hard to get a government issued i.d. in this country, really difficult. they think that is onerous. but then they are not worried about illegal immigrant voting, they brushed it off, even if it cancels out a legal citizen's vote in any given reaction. your reaction to this report? >> laura, first of all, i commend the public interest legal foundation for doing the work that the liberal, open borders press won't do. you've got the leftists in the elite media screaming about foreign interference and meddling in our political system and having noncitizens and illegal aliens voting at our ballot boxes is the textbook
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definition of foreign meddling. this goes back years and years and years. back when i lived on the east coast, of course, all around me, all of the counties in then-liberal blue maryland were inviting noncitizens, and they kept it very vague. they said, we only want illegal immigrants who haven't naturalized yet to be able to feel a part of the process and cast their ballots and school boards. this has been the gateway, laura, as you know, for all manner of legalizing illegal aliens' participation in civic and electoral life. it is radical and it's transformative and it's happened right before our eyes, all legally. that is the real scandal here. whether it is judicial watch or project veritas, and the last several election cycles, has been able to do undercover work, show that democrats are nonchalant about it, what itec
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shows you are that these people are more interested in banning plastic straws and 3d guns than they are in illegal aliens from the ballot box. >> laura: yeah, did you see the story, of course, this week and last week, san francisco, local board elections, school board elections, illegal immigrants now can vote? they say, look, there's a community. they're in the community. why shouldn't they have a right to vote? now we have that ninth circuit ruling today that you can't defund sanctuary cities. you can always count on the ninth circuit court of appeals on the issue of immigration to get it wrong. i'm sure it'll be reversed at the supreme court, but nevertheless, the president is up against a completely biased media, purposefully ill-informed media, run-away judges until he can appoint more and democrats and the old g.o.p. guards and theyey don't want that wall. let's face it. the g.o.p. on capitol hill, they do not want this wall, correct, michelle? do not want it? >> yes, they don't and we've
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fought these people for a long time,he you and i, laura, long before there were a lot of johnnie-come-latelies on this issue. we can smoke out the phonies and the lip-service payers from the people who truly believe in these fundamental principles of sovereignty. it'll be a reckoning come these midterms. i've saidd many times as people have tried to sort of downplay the internal strife over this, of course, it should be front and center in front of the midterms. i mean, it's -- the gallop polls are now showing the majority of americans are with us more than ever and you've got left-wing enclaves, even in oregon which now has an anti-sanctuary measure on the ballot, and it qualified withas, i think something like 50,000 or 60,000 more signatures than were needed. that's left-wing pacific northwest oregon. when is the g.o.p. going to get the message? >> michelle malkin, you have done such great reporting on this and you're also doing some reporting on another case, we're
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going to trye to get to it next week. it involves criminal justice reform. i tweeted something -- you know what i'm talking about -- i don't want to get too far into it. >> i do. >> laura: i want to bring you back to discuss that particular case next week. thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. i'm so grateful. wrongful convictions are a huge issue for me. >> laura: yeah, wrongful convictions. prosecutors who are out of control in our country and peoplecu rotting in prison when they could be gainful members of society. there's a lot of abuses out there we really appreciate your covering that.y michelle malkin, thank you so much. we have a lot to still getha to. we'll squeeze it in, if we can, when we come back.
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