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that -- don't s say that, but we'll do it any way. let's not be honest with the american people. we want open borders. and obamacare. that is all the time we have left. always fair and balanced. never the destroy-trump-media. let not your heart be troubled. ingraham standing by. >> laura: hey, i'm just writing eric trump a thank-you note for mentioning me during your show tonight. [laughter] sean: i'm sitting here, and he goes, you know who is great at defending melania? laura ingraham. i'm like, what am i, chopped liver? >> laura: listen, this is why you and i i have been friends for 18 years. you're number one in cable, you are number -- close to rush in radio. a little mention of someone else, you are like, "what about me"? typical man. >> sean: [ laughter ] you know why? let's be honest everyone in this business, you know this is true -- is overpaid, lazy, and narcissistic. and most of them are all agenda. we are honest. we are talk show hosts. we do journalism, we do straight
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interviews, commentary, opinion, we do it all. >> laura: radio. we do this -- i mean. >> sean: by the way, how great was it? rush 30 years, paving the way for all of us? >> laura: unbelievable. 18 years i got into radio. you and i started the same year in national radio. 2001, i never would have imagined. >> sean: i was with the guy in santa barbara in '87 and then huntsville, alabama and then atlanta. you started at thehe top. i'm so sorry it was so hard for you. >> laura: i>> was a lawyer. i was a lawyer. have pity for me as a lawyer. > sean: we'll fill the show with us bantering back-and-forth andg bickering like a children. >> laura: one friday when you are not taking a vacation day, we'll do that. >> sean: you and tucker take more vacation than anybody! >> laura: when you live in a
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palace, you don't have to go anywhere. the rest of us live in ramblerss >> sean: i can't win this debate. >> laura: you can't. you had a great show tonight. talk to you later. welcome to washington. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." a very busy thursday night. the president wrapping up a raucous rally. amid new bad blood between the u.s. and the media, kellyanne conway will be here to react to both. herman cain will stop by later,w and he'll break down the looming battle between the president and former president obama in the midterms. but first, partisan reporters and faux outrage. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." for the past few days, a certain cable news reporter has been dining out and whining about this scene from tuesday's trump rally. [chanting] >> no, ma'am. [chanting]
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>> laura: [ laughs ] the day after he basked in the afterglow of the insults with contrived dismay. >> honestly, it felt like wema weren't in america anymore. i don't know how to put it any w more plainly than that. americans should not be treating their fellow americans in this way. >> laura: ok, i have a question. do these guys ever think about how they treat america? hearing reporters complain about the angry reception they get in red state america is kind of like having an arsonist to lecture about campfire safety. as billy joel sang, "we didn't start the fire." i personally don't like anyone shouting swearwords or giving reporters or anyone the finger. but i certainly can understand the frustration of the trump voters. for much of the past three
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years, many in the press have been either underestimating or ridiculing both trump and his supporters. raise your hand if you are tired of journalists making themselves the center of every story. >> i tried to calmly talk to a lot of these folks at the rally last night, say, listen, hey, tell me what you want to talk about. why are you guys so upset with us? they would kind of go through a list of questions, most of the questions were about, why don't you guys report positive news about the president?f >> laura: g ok, so why don't you report positive news about the president?t? i wonder why these people are so understandably upset.ew according to the media research center, in the first two monthso of 2018, 91% of broadcast network coverage of trump was negative. the favorite story, of course, was the russia investigation.fa at the time devoted to covering the administration, one fourth of it, 24%, was devoted to the mueller probe.
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no other administration topic received that much attention, not even close. when they do cover another topic, like immigration for instance, it is 92% negative, only 8% positive. and you wonder why people are ticked off. it is not surprising that in a new survey by the research firm, fox news is near the top of the trusted names in news. cnn, down near the bottom. of course, the media may not be great at objectivity, but they are total pros at blame deflection. >> these opinions that they have at the rallies, they are shaped by what they see in the prime time hours of fox news. it is very unfortunate but it's a pitting of american against american and honestly, it needs to stop. >> the erosion of basic standards, stability, human decency, continues not just a republican phenomenon, we are being led down the drain by president trump.
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>> laura: a little overstatement there, jake! it's our fault? the president's fault that the press refuses to do no soul-searching at all? none of the blame is theirs? have they not seen those surveys that show trust in the network, their product, is at near an all-time low? a new poll from quinnipiac found that a majority of all americans disapprove of how the media covered trump. among republicans, nearly nine in ten disapprove. but still, come on. it's the people who are the problem, not the press. >> this kind of unfocused, visceral anger at the other side are really neutral people, like folks in the press corps, it can lead to this. >> laura: that's beyond
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reprehensible comparison. we won't talk about steve scalise. we'll talk about that later. i don't recall the same level of concern over the violence at let's say, berkeley, whenn conservatives speak, or outside the trump rallies in san jose during the campaign. remember when that guy was pummeled? when the left engages, in not just harsh language, but criminal acts of violence, destroying property, putting police lives at risk, the media work overtime to understand the underlying anger and upset. >> i see a lot of people expressing their humanity in the face of a candidate who has really built his candidacy on denouncing their humanity. yeah, there are a few people out there who were not out there to actually protest, but at the end of the day, they accomplished their goal. they got on tv and they gotre their issues aired. >> they have grievances. it's not like his mindless or they just want violence. they are speaking out about somebody who is attacking their communities. >> our hearts are out there marching with them. o
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>> laura: did any of them bemoan the vile nature of the commentary or the signage at, let's say, the women's march? >> i didn't know devils could be resurrected, but i feel hitler in these streets. yes, i'm angry! yes, i am outraged! yes, i have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house. >> laura: remember when madonna did all that yoga? i thought that was supposed to make you calm and zen-like. l where were the liberal complaints about this rhetoric? >> and with this kind of inspiration, i will go and take trump out tonight. >> i wish i could take it behind the gym. that is what i wish. >> how dare he say the things he does.
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of course i want to punch him in the face. >> laura: where was the media outrage about that? did president obama or other well-known democratic leaders decry that approach, that language, that vitriol, that incitement to violence? of course they did not. because after all, president trump, the people whos supported him, continue to support him, they all deserve that and worse. and where where the media condemnations when women who were affiliated or supported the president were harassed at restaurants, driven from movie theaters? the liberal media don't have any difficulty finding tough words to describe trump supporters, though. >> it is truly dangerous. we keep referring to his base. well, i'm sorry, but the people we saw, at that rally, if that's his base, it is deranged. >>ha laura: deranged?
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i guess, he kind of is an aspect on deranged. joe scarborough for all these years. the selective media outrage is laughable. also kind of sad. but come on, if it's directed at trump, protest and violence are considered really patriotic and kind of cool. but otherwise, it must bell condemned as dangerous. it's pretty simple. look, the culture has been worsened, the entertainment industry, music, film, billboards, television, everything is over sexualized or too violent or just dumbed down altogether. but this didn't start with trump. it began about 50 years ago when liberals were on a mission to kick god out of the schools and when they began ripping down our basic institutions of civic life. and as this happened, fly over america felt demeaned by the dominant culture, which came to
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see them as backwater, intolerant, and yes, even racist. this just made them furious and resentful. but then came donald trump. >> our economy is soaring, our jobs are booming. factories are pouring back into our country. they are coming from all over the world. and the forgotten men and women of the united states are forgotten no more! [cheers and applause] >> laura: you can almost hear the peals of laughter at certain cable news at studios after he says stuff like that. but most in that crowd in theca audience, across america, they like what they hear they are. they don't want to be forgotten. my friends in the media, you cannot ridicule and attack a major part of the american electorate. you can't disparage them and the
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president they voted for every day and then expect gratitude and cordiality in return. but i hope everyone will take a breath and learn to treat each other with civility and respect. the protesters, the president, and the media, and the way they cover them all. and that is "the angle." joining me now for reaction, here in the studio are two political heavyweights, matt schlapp, the american conservative union side, and philippe reines, former advisor to hillary clinton, and in california, a man who has written extensively about media hypocrisy, when it comes to violent rhetoric, victor davis hanson of the hoover institute. great to see all of you. philippe? >> i don't even know where to start. om.t do you want me to -- >> laura: your laughter is what i was talking about. you are laughing about the america or the supporters? >> i'm not laughing at america. i'm laughing because i see what happens as someone watching this every night. now i understand also, i
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understand if someone only watches another channel every night. it's very possible that you are not 100% right, you, being fox. and that cnn is not 100% right. there is somewhere in between. but you don't get any of that. there is no comment -- i'm not going to be cutesy about common ground -- but we were talking earlier about different conspiracy theories. there is nothing i could say tou debunk one because i would say, well, here, look at this associated press story, or here, look at this fox story.is there is nothing we all agree upon. so you have, yes, the toxic environment. i don't think it should be on tv anymore. but you also have a president who is lying, he is lying multiple times a day, he is lying at a rate more than anyone ever has. it is true. he has lied 4,229 times -- >> that is the slime from left-wing outlets.29 that's exactly what you're talking about. we can agree on truth. we can agree on truth. there are good reporters. t
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but that does not help -- fact-check organizations that all these people are all paid by your leftists. that shouldn't happen. there is truth, laura. there is right and wrong. all politicians should be held to that standard but i agree with you, you can't go out there as a journalist and say you are objective and then be on your twitter feed making fun of me and my friends and my family on a regular basis. you don't get to have it both ways. >> laura: do you think that the polling on -- the way the people feel about the media in general, whether they approve or disapprove of the coverage of the president, the majority, it's not a fox poll -- it's, the the thehe -- the majority doesnt agree on how the president is covered. the majority -- not a fox poll -- the majority, they do not approve the way they cover the president. the majority believe they are biased toward the liberal side of the equation. i know you have your views about the president. i'm trying to keep this argument focused on this conflagration between the media and
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conservatives and the media and his administration.. victor david hanson, you just wrote a column today about this. the culture that we live in. your reaction to what you saw and heard over the last few days and "the angle"?ct >> well, i think there is a certain people that feel that their aims are so virtuous or they are so well educated, that there means are okay. take jim acosta, and reaction to that, a reporter at "politico" said people at that rally had no teeth and they were garbage. we haven't heard that since peter strzok said that people smelled at walmart. you get into this deplorable and irredeemable, your political activist that talk about her twitter, they go across the white house and make noise so the president can't sleep. it's all predicated on this attempt on my contempt they have a geographical or sociological or cultural subset of america and they are imbued with it, and the irony of it, laura, is that when you take this member of "the new york times" editorial board, she is a product of
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berkeley county is a product of harvard law school. yet, she's voicing sentiments that are right out of the middle ages. the same thing with ocasio-cortez. she's a boston university graduate but she's clueless on the middle east are on basic economics. so red state america is presented with this paradox that this really well educated, enlightened elite know everything but they really don't. they disparage people on the base of class and we are reaping the whirlwind of that. we need to step back. >> laura: yeah, you're talking about the new -- you're talking -- excuse me -- you'reing -- you're talking about the new editorial board member of "the new york times," sarah jeong, who said among the most hateful things about white people, i guess, when you're not right, you say hateful things about white people, "the new york times" will hire you if you delete your tweets and say you are sorry. i am for redemption, i think that's great, but wow.atueue i can imagine people tweeting other things that are directed to conservatives, they would
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never hire them at "the new york times." he made a point -- >> we don't know what the rules are. >> laura: the rules are different. we say the elites. it's not about where you go to school, it's the way you look down upon regular people. i see people at the trump rallies, they don't go to fancy clothes stores and buy the fancn clothes, certainly not like paul manafort does. they don't get the cool clothes. they don't speak in the same highfalutin terms of other people. but they are good people. they think america is in trouble and i think donald trump has more answers than the in crowd. that is why they voted for him. they believe he fights for him.c the media don't get that. they are focusing on the media.y do you believe that they are giving the policies of this administration a fair analysis, philippe? >> i do. i think you are defining unfair as coming up with a negative outcome. that is assuming president trump never makes any mistakes. >> laura: of course he does.
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i call him out for mistakes. >> immigration, all the time. i think the problem is, elite is code for looking down at someone. soy boy. calling someone beta male. low iq. this is not one group looking down from a mountain saying the other group is scary.g >> laura: i think people get offended and then they strike back. it's a bad cycle. >> you have 100% of the country angry at itself and the media, to some extent, is one of the ways to hash it out. and they have been neutered. you have been neutered. the same way you talk to your crowd, jim acosta talks to his crowd. >> laura: but he's not an opinion journalist. i am!ot i'm not a reporter. i'm a commentator. i worked for the reagan administration and clerked for justice thomas. i don't pretend to be objective. i'm an opinion journalist but i think i am fair and i think there are great reporters -- >> but the impact on fact and story, sean hannity is single-handedly given incredible credence to some of the worst conspiracy --
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>> no -- no. >> laura: first of all, if you are going to come on this network and attack fox, philippe -- conspiracy theories. you know what i think it is a conspiracy theory? saying garbage people, jeering at another person, falsely accusing them, flipping them off -- mark caputo, who says the most horrific thing, as a political reporter -- >> i don't know -- >> laura: mark caputo? >> sara young person. everyone said things they should regret, whether they do or not. >> laura: these people are reporters! they are supposed to be calling balls and strikes, correct? >> and they are. and when sarah sanders lies, they call it out. >> when jim goes to a trump rally -- >> you will have trump supporters and conservatives -- >> these are americans. the audience they are trying to get.um >> whyy doesn't cnn listen to
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what the american people want? the ratings will do better. >> i think they do, actually. final thoughts? center ininterested harvard says 90% of the press coverage was slanted antitrump. this idea on the one hand and the other hand is disingenuous. whether we like it or not, the media is for a particular subset of american life. they feel it's their odyssey and their journey to delegitimize this president and the people who support him for a variety of cultural and class reasons, and i'm not saying that trump is an angel, but the coverage is not -- it's really pathetic.im >> laura: all right, gentlemen. thank you so much. stay with us. we have an exclusive interview with white house insider kellyanne conway next.- we have an exclusive interview with whi ♪ we have an exclusive interview ♪ keep it comin' love.
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>> we are doing better in all of these states than we did on election night. [cheers and applause] much better.r. despite the only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there -- i got along great with putin. and everybody said, wow, that was great. a couple of hours later, i
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started hearing these reports that they wanted me to walk up -- they wanted me to walk up and go like this -- whatever happened to fair press? whatever happened to honest reporting? these horrible, horrendous people. >> laura: well, that was president trump tonight in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania to discuss the press and a a lot of hot news. let's bring one of our close friends, at least mine, for too many years to count, and the president's closest advisor, white house counselor kellyanne conway. kellyanne, thank you so much for joining us tonight. we've been discussing the relationship with the press, and the crybaby response, which i think is feigned, phony moral outrage, the horrible things said about this president, the horrible types of violence, anti-trump protests, smashing windows, and beating people up
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who have a cap on that says make america great, but now the press is upset because some 70-year-old lady yells at jim acosta. i mean, i don't get it. >> i thought press secretary sarah sanders handled it beautifully today when she really read it, an entire litany of facts. things that have been said about her and some violence that has been incited against her, she is the only press secretary in u.s. history to hear her say it thatt she needed bodyguards andst secret service. i had secret service when i got there for much the same reason. laura, i have a slightly different take on all of this. i know that it may be annoying, it may be irritating, and may be unfair, it may even be biased at times, it certainly is. but i am also not sure it's particularly relevant or consequential. the media is overall -- the approval rating is at 17 or 20%. i will give the range, i saw a low of 17, high of 20%. the president's approval ratings are ticking upward.
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particularly on matters that are of consequence to the american people, like his handling of the economy. trying to forge peace and prosperity around the globe. people know what they see and what they see are their bonuses, their raises, that the deregulation andnd the historic tax cuts. they have confidence inn this economy, and they are spending more of their money. i was at that rally tonight with the president. i participated in the round table ahead also. people are absolutely brillianto -- buoyant. they know that beginning with hillary clinton, they referredre to as irredeemable and deplorable, and looked down upon, they know that barack obama, when he was running for president, said these people who cling to their god and their guns -- just always dismissing them, and this is why it is very important point. i'm not sure they care anymore. i speak to these people all the time. you know what they care about?
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the care they have a president who respects and takes actionha daily for the military, for the veterans, and for them. look, let's not mistake was going on here, too. a lot of these journalists have very expensive seven-figure contracts, go on late-night tv where they can yuk it up and c they just laugh all day long, particularly about the women in the trump administration, and then they can go and giveic speeches -- i mean, they speak for free every single day, and half the country doesn't want to listen to them. somebody pays them a lot of money to give speeches, so they are raking it in. listen, donald trump is right.t. president trump, laura, is correct, when he says nobody has been better for the media than him.he certainly, the revenues, the popularity -- >> laura: but, kellyanne, i got to jump in here, because when i talk to my radio listeners every day and i did a thing a couple of days ago, i said, tell me how the trump economy, is affecting your business, your family, you know, don'tou sugar coat it. if it's not working, i want to
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hear from you. i did this for three hours. >> we did, too. >> laura: three hours! people literally talking about truck drivers, salesman, people in medical devices -- you know what they say?k people are happier. people are happier because they are not worried about waking up and saying, oh, my god, i will lose my job tomorrow. i was -- i knew the economy was great. - but until you hear from the regular people, just saying, i don't know what these media are saying, everyone is unhappy, people are angry. people are happy because the economy is doing well. "the hill" has a great piece today, kellyanne, but other -- about how the tariffs that are trashed by the media and the democrats, let's talk about the democrats, the media are getting that wrong, too.ev the tariffs are very popular with businessmen across the united states and they want more tariffs to level the playing field with china. so they are missing the story. it's going to your point. >> the president said today that china is way down now and he told everybody to be patient.
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i wanted to mention something else. bias is not just -- it doesn't come in the form of overtly, one-sided, lopsided reporting. that is easy to detect. bias is also a selectivity of what gets covered and what does not. the pool reported from "the new york times" saying there was no news made when the president and ivanka trump and high school students were in tampa bay at tampa bay tech, soo excited that the perkins legislation had been reauthorized, it's going to benefit upwards of 11 million students across this country. no news was made. just today! in the briefing room! this was so important. just today in the briefing room, we had cabinet members come and talk about what they are doing in 2018 to stop meddling in interference in our elections -- >> laura: but, kellyanne, guess what happened? no. no. guess what happened?
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not only did they not cover it, kellyanne, listen to what chuck todd said. again, four, five top intel national security officials saying russia meddled, we'll stop it, for the next time. >> what president trump is doing.ti >> laura: this is what chuck todd said. let's listen.n. >> we begin tonight by trying to make sense of what happened this afternoon. perhaps more importantly, why? for some, it's going to take more than one surprise briefing to convince them that what we heard today about cracking down on russia has the full backing o of the president. that it was not an effort by a white house communications team desperate to turn the page from the other headaches they have been asked about all week. >> laura: damned if they do, damned if they don't. your reaction to chuck's point? >> here's my reaction. in 2016, the president at that time, clapper and comey and brennan, everyone on their team had information that russia was meddling in
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trying to enter the election. they sat on it because "i'm with her" also meant that i will bury the information they have about meddling. fast forward, this president is untried, his entire team is on task. the security of homeland security said she's got a 50 state effort on way. they are investing cyber and election security. secretary nielsen, they were in new york city, for all the public to see. the media hardly covered this entire conference on cyber security, election security. but for this mainstream media, who, as you pointed out, coveren the russian story more than anything, this calendar year,an when it came to speaking from the podium, about what this president's administration will do to stop it, try to stop it,pr they are not covering it because it's not coming in the manafort trial, not coming in the mueller report, not coming out of the mouths of someone else. it's coming in a cohesive and positive fashion from this president, what he's going to do. it's complete hypocrisy. laura, if the mainstream media truly cared about election
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interference, they would be able to write a story, or finish a sentence without mentioning donald trump's name. they can't do it. >> laura: all right, we're out of time. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. having fun in the rain.n. thank you. >> laura: we'll continue to cover this one more. stay there. stay
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♪ >> laura: the democrats keep talking about blue waves this >> laura: the democrats keep talking about blue waves thisr year and once again, they've labeled it the year of the woman. wasn't that '92? not so fast. according to a new poll by the independent women's voice, candidates gender makes no difference to 83% of likely 2018 voters. joining me now to discuss this, make sense of it, harmeet. dhillon, rnc committee woman from california, and the former hillary clinton campaign organizer. pat hayes. great too see both of you. let's start with you, pam. why should a person's sex matter and election?
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i thought we were supposed to be away from labels and gender -- the only thing that matters is merit in what you bring to the equation. why are we now labeling the election a year of the woman? why isn't this the year of great issues? >> i think it is the year of great issues. i don't know why it is being labeled the year of the woman. i just think that one reason wht people were referring to it as the year of the woman is because you have more women candidates than ever before. m so that would be one reason. i don't think people are just going out and saying, she wears a skirt, so i'm going to vote for her, won her ideas are so far-fetched and they are different from mine. i don't think people really do that. at home and we will do that think that is tantalizing fact that pollsters do to make people come to their side of the equation. >>ra laura: i want to play this michellero obama sound bite from september of last year when she
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talked about the women who turned out for donald trump. let's watch. >> women who voted against hillary clinton voted against their own selves, why does it mean for us, for women, that we look at those two candidates, as women, and many of us said, that guy, he's better for me. his voice is more true to me. >> laura: harmeet, again, it seems to look down on women who voted for trump. if you vote for a conservative republican, you are voting against your interests. with this booming economy, every level of the economy is up, female employment, optimism, manufacturing, all of it, up, up, up. how can you say that this year, after all these results are already in?af >> laura, they see it because they are out of ideas. they got nothing for the year of the woman was 2016, by the way, didn't work very well for the democrats. they tried to use gender to catapult an otherwise bad
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candidate across the finish line and it didn't work. i am a woman business owner and i can tell you that woman or man, everyone who is a business owner who works for a livingan looks at their 401(k), their rising salary, job competition from people who are not in the country, not citizens, andar everyone factors those things in. it is very passe for leaders to say that women should be voting according to their lady parts, as opposed to with their brains, their pocketbooks, and voting for their futures. a party does need to do a good job, though, after finding -- of defining those issues that americans all care about. particularly people who have households, caring about health care, caring about safety, and we can do a better job in congress are making sure that we pass obamacare, making sure that we get border security, the issues like that. that is what women, men care about. we all care about it. >> that is what people care about, laura. i don't think it is so much this gender focus, as people want to make a -- make it about.
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i think it's about the issues. i got to worry about what is going to happen, if, god forbid, something happens to my daughter, if she's raped and you can even get a way to deal with that way that is a problem. >> laura: when you say "a way to deal with that -- when you sayt, "a way to deal with that" you're saying abortion. that's the word you're searching for? >> abortion. >> just say it. >> because i don't want to. i say it the way i want to! >> laura: pam, you believe in this election psychois that up with of the pre-- cycle is that one of the preeminent issues on the minds of the voters is the ability to get an abortion? you think that'll be outlawed in the united states?, all 50 states? why do youha think that? >> i think it becomes dangerous when it's outlawed in some states. i think it should be a policy across the united states. >> laura: for abortion?
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>> a choice for women. for abortion. that is not the top issue, at least for me, -- >> laura: it's not the top issue for any american. i don't think abortion is in the top ten. >> i don't think so, either, laura. >> laura: why'd you bring it up? >> i brought it up because i wanted to make a point. >> laura: what point? i'm not finding it -- let me read you the comment from hillary clinton. we are talking about, a lot of women candidates, they are doing really well. the democrats are fielding a lot of female candidates who are doing well so far in the pulling out a lot of open seats. -- polling and a lot of open seats. this is what hillary clintons said, she said, "we do not do well with white men. we do not dohi well with marrie, white women. and part of that is an identification with the republican party, and a sort of
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ongoing pressure to vote the way your husband, your boss, your son, whoever, believes you should." pam, do you agree with what mrs. clinton said there? you read between the lines, you don't even have to read between the lines. these women are kind of stupid. they vote the way their men want them to vote. >> no. i don't think that the vast majority women are stupid and vote the way their men want them to vote. but i think there are some people who do that, just like there are women who might just vote for women because they are women. i think the issue is, what is the importance of the majority of people in america. for me, it's a pocketbook issue. i am a business owner -- >> laura: right. so you should be for trump? >> no, i would never be for trump! i've got very serious issues with him >> laura: how's your business doing? >> it's doing ok. it was doing better insure george bush. i'll put it like that. >> laura: was it doing better under obama? >> my business is doing great! >> i don't have that type of business.es i'm a lawyer, ok? >> h laura: ok. so is harmeet. so am i. i'm recovering. harmeet, last word.
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>> the type of the democrats the democrats are fielding in this election are extreme. these younger women, standing o for socialism, ocasio-cortez, women who are far left, women who are open borders, women who are abortion extremists. frankly, i don't think that message will resonate with the majority of the voters. the majority of voters are somewhere in the middle. i hope that i'm correct that these young women are attractive, good-looking candidates, not necessarily going to get the vote in november but that depends on republicans to field people with gbetter ideas. >> laura: can i just say that i don't care what party you like or if you don't like trump, you like trump, you have to like this economy. i can tell you this, it's not going to get better than it is right now. it might get marginally better but this is a great time. if you want a job in the united states, i can't think in my lifetime of a better lifetime to be an american citizen. we really appreciate both of you joining us. >> actually, it wasn't bad with obama. it wasn't bad.
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>> it's terrific now. >> laura: the gdp, taking china to task -- it's -- it's -- i mean, this is a factual argument at this point. the american people give him very high marks in the economy. thankfully, about 55%, and that is a good thing. good for all americans. whoever was president, providing over these policies, these are good policies for the american people. i really appreciate both of you joining us tonight. harmeet and pam, thank you so much. still ahead, herman cain on the brewing battle between the president and former president obama. glenn greenwald on president trump versus the old world order also. stay with us. greenwald on president trump versus the old world orde
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president trump's foreign policy. that is a shock. you heard that right. president trump has both sides of the swamp so riled up they are not collaborating. -- they're now collaborating. during me now for reaction, glenn greenwald, journalist at the website intercept who has written about the recent alliance between the bush era neocons are liberals. glenn, it is good to see you tonight. this is wild. for us conservatives who took a step back after the iraq war, said, this is a mistake, we got to be much smarter on military interventionism, i guess it is not all that surprising but it is just now out in the open, what we thought is now true. >> yeah, i think it is one of the most under covered stories of the trump era, the ideological shift. when i started writing about politics in 2005, the root of all evil for liberals was theng american enterprise institute. bill kristol, these are the
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people who are now joining with the establishment ring of the democratic party to defend this very militaristic, internationalized institutional assertion of military force. they see president trump in a lot of cases, rightly, as well as people on the left, as opposing. this predates for trump. a lot of neocons were preparing to support hillary clinton before trump became a candidate because they found her brand of hawkish and nice, she criticized -- hockingishness, and she criticized obama for being insufficiently belligerent, quite attractive. this shift is profound. >> laura: he's doing it in other ways, too. trump has blown up a lot of old alliances. the koch brothers, you are seeing that split. richard trumka, i think it is good to make this up. all these old alliances, theye didn't deliver a good resultsll come on foreign policy, a mixed results, vis-a-vis united states versus china on the economy, and trump is like, well, i'll work with anybody who will work with me, and i guess his enemies are
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saying the same thing. >> absolutely. the view of trump, for example, that i'll meet with any leaders without preconditions was obama's flagship position at horrified hillary clinton. on these international trade agreements, like the wto, nafta, tpp, opposition to those, which has become trump policy, was orthodoxy on the left for a long time, and that, too, is driving the establishment wings of the republican and democratic party is crazy because they are financed by the same banking interest, corporate interests, that love is globalized industries that have been terrible for the american worker but great for american hedge funds, and banks, and that, too, is causing a remarkable shift and a lot of coalitions. i think it will endure long after trump was gone. >> laura: i think the old f order is forever disrupted. i don't think that is ever coming back, as much of the kict
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-- no matter how much they kick and scream. h speaking of unholy alliances, glenn, i want to get your thoughts on something else.me the intercept has written about former "los angeles times" writer and current nbc darling,i intelligence reporter, ken delanian. tell us more about thete relationship with the cia and why we probably see him on tv so often? delanian is an "l.a. times" reporter and what he had to share with the cia? >> well, it is really amazing because we at the intercept didl a foia request where we askedre the cia to turn over there communications with reporters. they turned over emails that had all kinds of communications between the cia and ken dilanian, where he would say, i'm about to report on you, here's the draft, what are you guys thinking? what should i change? we published all those emails, lots of liberals said, dilanian is the worst, a servant of the
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cia. he got pushed out of the "l.a. times," ever since then, he's kind of climbed up the ladder, and now he is the star reporter at the msnbc and nbc, where that is all he does, just blindly and mindlessly repeat what the cia tells them to say, gives them anonymity, essentially their puppet and mouthpiece, that is called journalism over at msnbc. >> laura: but he's an expert. i mean, they hold him out as a real expert on brennan, clapper, the whole crowd, and so he speaks with authority, because he covered it for that much time , but until you did that foyer request, no one knew the back story. >> i think american journalism for a long time has been far too deferential. these intelligence operatives who operate in the dark, they give them anonymity. that was why we got the iraq war. i think ken dilanian takes this horrible practice, he is the world champion of benefiting his
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own career by just acting as a stenographer for the intelligence committee and he's become a hero of democrats and liberals who watch msnbc because now the cia remarkably if the is the agency that they venerate and review more than anyone else and therefore, a journalist with their spokesperson is kind of a tv star for them. it's really remarkable and bizarre and surreal turn of events. >> laura: oh my goodness. it's wild. thank you so much. president obama is returning to the political fray in a big way. herman cain joins us next to break down the heavyweight matchup between obama and president trump. are you ready to take your wifi to the next level?
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♪ >> laura: former president barack obama is back in the political fray with endorsements for 81 democratic candidates ahead of the midterms. interestingly, though, he did not endorse democratic socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez.r he new york governor andrew cuomo,, or even beto o'rourke, ted cruz's challenger in texas. it did not help hillary clinton get elected but will that help democrats in the midterms? they miss him a lot. joining me now for answers, fox news contributor, former g.o.p. presidential candidate himself, herman cain. okay, herman, president obama is a rock star for democrats.
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they love him. you see these bumper stickers, "i miss barack," it's kind of sad.. he seems to be having fun in retirement. he's wading back in. will this make a difference? >> no. that's because president -- former president obama is a lightweight. he presided over the nation.re president donald trump is a heavy weight. he's leading the nation. that is the difference. if you compare the results side-by-side, even though president trump isn't even two years into his leadership yet, r the results are startling. so former president obama's endorsement won't mean a thing in my opinion. now the list of people use that -- that you said he endorsed, the democrats, and the ones he left out, here's the difference.
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he endorsed closet socialists but he did not endorse open socialists. that is a difference and i don't think it's going to make a difference. >> laura: well, i think what the democrats are trying to sell this time is you're undoing. all the great progress of barack obama, environmental regulations, that's going to be big in places like california. p they are really going to sell c the abortion issue, that we lose another seat on the court, we don't put a real roadblock in front of trump, it's going to be goodbye to abortion and that is going to threaten women's reproductive health. you can hear it already building.dy it's environmental, it's women, it's -- you know, the animals. that is kind of where they are going. clean air, clean water, he's going to poison your kids and your dog. >> that is where they are going, laura. but that dog ain't going to hunt. i know from the people i listen to every day like you, the people there to support donald trump are not leaving donald trump.
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the democrats that believe in this malarkey, some of them are believing it, but some of them are saying, maybe i need to take a second look and here is what donald trump is really going to pick up ground, with the independent, correct thinking people in the middle. all of the noise that has been generated by the liberal noisese chamber, the liberal news chamber, it is the narrow lensal of the media, and as one of my callers said today, it feels like they are talking about the twilight zone. that is exactly what they are talking about. they are not talking about -- the americans that you hear every day on your show, the people that i hear from every day, they are not listening to y others. they are creating their own n narrative that is not in touch with reality. you've got a lightweight, a former president, versus a heavyweight who is the lead in the nation, versus someone who was presiding over the nation. >> laura: herman, i want to
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get your reaction to this other story that's causing liberals to go bonkers.y afl-cio president richard trumka reportedly has not yet ruled out endorsing president trump in 2020. you're reaction? >> the union leaders do this every election cycle to try and squeeze more out of thehe democrats, the liberals, and the progressives. they would never do it but they threatened it to see if they can't squeeze a little bit more. >> laura: all right so you're not buying trumka? i knew i would get the truth from cain. thank you, herman. when we come back, "vogue" will feature something coming up in september. you won't believe it.. or maybe you will.
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sophistication, let's face it, she's gorgeous, her intellect, this time from rogue's vaunted september issue but they are featuring a peculiar choice, porn star stormy daniels, taking the photo, too typical, so disappointing but not surprising. milania trump, stormy, god bless her. a great show on tap with shannon bream, fox news at night, take it away. >> i wonder how they make those decisions. great to see you. we begin with a fox news alert, the president taking his fight against fake news to a campaign style rally in pennsylvania, rudy giuliani warns the fall election is all about one thing, impeachment. karl rove makes his debut tonight, the white house briefing room
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