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point are within .5 percentage points it triggers an automatic recount, so stay tuned, much more to come in this race. at most-watched, most trusted and most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington, i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> good evening everyone and welcome to tucker carlson tonight, i'm tammy bruce. it's great to be back with you. like the early to thousands again, rosie o'donnell has been having another meltdown over donald trump. >> this guy is in no means mentally stable enough to run this country and he should be impeaching every congressman wh hasn't filed those articles and they should lose their little job. >> tammy: and more that just ahead it, plus black lives matter crashing a police officer is own wedding. >> i just wanted to know if you started planning your wedding before you killed him or after,
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and how you've been sleeping since march 18th. and i know this is supposed to be the happiest day of your life. he will not have that opportunityo ever. >> tammy: but first tech companies are taking the lead in suppressing any voices that. dissent against the left. in the past few days, apple,ak facebook, youtube, spotify and other companies have all banned alex jones from using their platforms. also twitter purged various libertarian accounts, instagram tommy robinson and facebook took down a g.o.p. candidates ads for being allegedly offensive. chris murphy says mass censorship is needed to ensure "the survival of the democracy." i guess he doesn't realize the irony there. who is next? on msnbc some say twitter should be in the president. >> trump has insulted someone via twitter at least 487 times. is there a point in which twitter says, this is a violation of our ethics, i'm going to shut you down? i think there probably is a rubicon he could cross but he hasn't crossed it yet.
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for twitter at least.'t >> tammy: nigel faraj wants led the u.k. party and headed the brexit campaign is the issue, this is nothing new. there's the issue, this is nothing new. we have seen this happening for quite some time, even diamond vd silk, a very good example on facebook but you have an op-ed in "usa today" and you've got a very interesting idea about perhaps how we can start to approach this kind of banning and this assault on conservative ideas on social media. what do you have to say? >> mark zuckerberg has always claimed that facebook was a platform for all ideas. fine. he says i'm not a publisher, i'm just a means of people putting out their messages. whatever you think about alex jones and in phone wars, may say aythis guy is a bit out there. the point is he's got a big following, he has an opinion and if you believe in their
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first amendment rights, people should be allowed to do this. i would say that by banning jones, by shadow banning many others, facebook and others are now effectively becoming a publisher and that means because they are taking editorial decisions, they should be open to being sued as other media organizations are. >> tammy: i would argue, because we are all looking at how to find some balance here because we do clearly see it's unfair. we see it ranging from congressmen to be shadowland to celebrities who have the wrong opinions, might be somewhat conservative, that were trying to find a framework. especially with mainstream media being 85% liberal and we see that push. but we are the content and social media which gives us an edge. but let me suggest that some of the arguments by twitter and what they are doing is they are saying that these comments violate their standard and if we open it up to, let's say, lawsuits for libel, wouldn't it make it even more difficult, wouldn't more people be banned,
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wouldn't there be more people suspended? >> no, because if you are a platform for all ideas you are not a publisher. that is the point. what mark zuckerberg and the other tech giants are trying to do is they are now trying to have it both ways. on the one hand they claim we are not publishers, we are not open to libel because we let everybody give their opinion, but on the other, they now, in a very sinister way, are starting to ban and shadow ban people. take for example on facebook, an organization that i have spoken for, i've been to their events. >> tammy: they do great work. >> they do amazing work. their videos have been seen by tens of millions of people. they now on facebook have 88 of their videos that are now very much put to the back of the list, they are very hard to access, including ones on christianity, for goodness sake. it's a gone way beyond the bounds. what is needed now is a bill of rights for people using
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the internet. let's give people access -- let's give people rights and if we can't get that, let's make sure we know we defined facebook, youtube and twitter as publishers who are libel, as our fox news or "the wall street journal" or anybody else for the content they put out. >> tammy: again, we've got to find a way to push back and one of the strengths we have here is that we are the content, there is a sense also that we are willingth to put up with anythig because our lives now are so intertwined with twitter, with facebook, social media in general. it's the new modern way to communicate and my concern, of course, is that we don't want them to go away and yet ironically they are private public companies, they are not p government. they can do what they please, but i think the power as an example, this conversation, being able to have a point of view and make sure everybody
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knows exactly what's going on because since we are the contact we can at least push back. thank you so much for joining me today. appreciate it. great job. with got to find some way to be able to push back. the perfect person to speak with about this tonight. a civil rights attorney, she represents james to moore, who was fired by google for his personal views. she joins us now. welcome aboard. >> thanks, tammy, happy to be here. >> tammy: what you think of nigel's proposal about holdingol social media accountable as publishers to where they would be liable on issues like defamation, et cetera? i feel that that would be even more chilling because they are not the government obviously. they are not compelled by the first amendment to not act or to protectt our rights. what's your take on how conservatives can protect themselves and push back in this regard? >> actually agree with my show. sorry, tammy.
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i think it is way past time for us to do that and what nigel is talking about is that the social media companies are all hiding behind section 2:30 which gives them safe harbor, gives them immunity from being sued if they act as a platform, not as a publisher. the minute they become a publisher and censor what they do and what they don't, just like a magazine, just like "newsweek" or whatever, they can be held liable just like those publications. what the social media platforms have done is they have absolutely with their digital advertising sucked the life out of traditional journalism so the traditional journalism outlets are on their last legs. they are teetering into extinction and they are the places where they actually can p get sued if they do defamation, if they published libel, they can be held liable but these other platforms cannot. so between their market power, which i think of something the doj should look at with antitrust regulation and with their frankly some false advertising to being open to
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everybody, which twitter promises, facebook promises and youtube to a certain degree promises, although they don't pretend to do that anymore, they are violating the law and setting aside the first amendment i agree with you this is not a first amendment issue so much as breach of contract. some of the other things that conservatives can do is that we need to have members of congress look at the communications and decency act issued, but we arty have some government regulations in place that can help us. we have the federal trade commission, we have a federal communicationsco commission. they can both take a hand and looking at the uneven application oflde the rules -- >> tammy: i get very nervous. are not a libertarian, i'm not even a republican, but when we start seeing -- and i think regulations can be very good. we've seen that when it comes to the environment, government does have a role, albeit a very limited one. when we start talking about governmentnt agencies deciding o has to be heard and what must be
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done i start thinking of things like the fairness doctrine, which may talk radio impossible to have. r i worry about, again, this notion that when you are dealing with private or public companies, but not the timenment, at the same google, a very big role in government, involved with barack obama's administration. they themselves, the market share, the value of them are bigger than some countries. apple just i think became the first time $1 trillion traded company. are you not concerned about government involvement in this marketplace framework where i think personal activism as the content producers can help make the difference on? >> of course i'm concerned, and frankly government involvement as a conservative is a last resort but sometimes it is necessary. for example, where we have doctrines that require equal access to certain platforms, for example, you have facebook
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sensory elizabeths ads when the democrat, the incumbent is notd censored. that is, to me, virtually in kind contribution. if we can't have that in our system under our current laws. i'm not saying new laws, i'm just saying by the current laws to the situation. >> tammy: great point. >> the other thing is that conservatives can fight back at the courts or as you say, the content, but i'm afraid it's a little naive to say that. unfortunately they've had many years of american consumers acting like sheep. they think that google's free, these things are free and now we are in chains. >> tammy: we have to wrap it up. we have to wrap it up now. i think this conversation is an indicator that things are changing and thank goodness for work like yours, i appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> tammy: we are keeping an eye on ohio, closely watched election. republican troy balderson is running against danny o'connor for the 12th district seat.
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>> tammy: that was obviously rosie o'donnellth protesting outside the white house. the president of course is in new jersey along with a group of broadway performers. the hostility between rosie o'donnell and donald trump goes back more than a decade but recently rosie has been inspired to new heights of derangement. yesterday she had a meltdown on msnbc. >> he should not be president and i don't believe that he's a legitimate president. i believe if it wasn't for russia he never would have won. is a horrible, horrible human with no soul and he has a very serious mental disorder. there are so many psychiatrists were trying to get out, the duty to warn, they wrote a book. this guy is in no means mentally stable enough to run this country and he should be impeached and every congressman who hasn't filed those articles should lose their job. >> tammy: you don't have to wonder where shes stands. and she took her act to cnn and accused the president supporters, you guys, some of
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you, of being paid to attend his rallies. >> first of all, people are paid, you know that. people were paid since he went down the escalator. he pays people to show up at those rallies. >> but i don't know that that's why he gets tens of thousands at the rallies. i think he captures a lot of r emotion. >> he doesn't get tens of thousands. when did he get tens of thousands? tell me one. >> not a template. i think they only had 9,000 seats and there were people outside but i've seen them. he gets big groups of people who come out. >> tammy: there you go. gosh. larrype o'connor, associate edir of the washington times. he joins us now. isn't it a sign of the continued detachment from reality to say that donald trump is paying supporters -- in a way i want all democrats to think that because they really don't understand what's going on. you've got a piece on this today. what's your take on this return of hers and is very strange approach? >> i want to go one step further. i think that every republican
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running for election this november should play what we just saw on an endless wrote to mike lowe. let rosie o'donnell be the spokesperson for the democratic national committee at this point. it really is a new level of derangement but thought a lot of the things that she sang are just patently offensive not just to trump supporters. let's start with mental illness. rosie has been public about hers own bout with depression. i don't know if you've known anyone with real legitimate mental illness. one thing you don't do is accuse somebody of having mental t illness when they don't or if they haven't said that they do. it's offensive, he uses the idea of having mental illness as some sort of pejorative. it's obnoxious. she did the same thing with the president's son darren and suggested that the president's son had autism. it's so out-of-bounds. she is just a horrible, horrible human being and now she's rallying people in front of the white house. it's disconcerting. >> tammy: broadway especially. i live in new york. broadway is an industry that relies on the tourism of middle
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america. its average americans, for some it's a bucket list issue, but traveling to new york is a fabulous, fun thing to do. it's their audience and it seems to me, some people who were there who were in hamilton, and the tickets are not cheap. if we are asking americans to spend a lot of money to see them perform and i love performers, i think they're terrific, but -- everybody's got a right to be political, but doesn't this harm, considering the nature of what we've been experiencing in america, doesn'tt this harm -- beyond rosie o'donnell, this kind of h activism, doesn't it harm both their industry and the democrat party in general? >> i used to work in thiscr enty before andrew breitbart discovered me and touch me out of obscurity, i used to work in the management business on broadway and in los angeles. and i adore this industry, i adore the art form. but broadway means so far to the
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left they have fallen over and they can't get up. and i love the business but the fact is rosie was just saying to her fellow broadway performers there at the protest, make sure the president knows you're alive. he knows they're alive but he alsoso knows that all of those people you are talking about are alive. the peopleu' from middle america who save all their pennies, they come to new york, they buy tickets to a broadway show and when they see with these performers think of them, what ethe industry thinks of them, they might go on a cruise next time. >> tammy: thank you so much. this is a point where at some stage americans coming together, finding and focusing on what we do have in common like better paychecks, raises, tax cuts, safer country. we all benefit from those things and maybe it's time to start focusing on that. thank you so much for joining me today.y. >> thank you. >> tammy: there's plenty of derangement to go around these days. inin hollywood, donald trump's hollywood walk of fame star has become a consistent vandalism .arget
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there is with a pickax. rick wilson became so worked up about trump he began cursing and the channel had to kill his cdio feed. >> there's a bigger number trump movement out there. there's just a huge courage deficit in this country. >> because of my past failures and of course it happens every day, we had to implement a 72nd delay. if so what you said will probably not make it out there. >> tammy: is probably the best way. that's probably the best way to listen to rick wilson, silence. so when you do want to hear from, who i know well and i enjoyed her commentary, cathy areu. this shows liberal sure but when we say that with all kinds of appreciation. she w joins us now in studio. kathy, how are you doing? >> good, how are you? >> good, how are you --
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>> tammy: you've seen everything we've seen. you've heard larry. o'donnell, she gets some attention, she's a performer. she used to be a comedian. i don't laugh when i hear from her anymore. >> not with these. not with these lines. >> tammy: is this helpful for the entertainment industry and for liberals in general? it's been almost a year and a half, isn't it time to just say okay, let's find what we have in common, or is it all still too early? >> with rosie o'donnell this war has been going on for 12 years. it's personal. it's really personal. when he was asked do you call women picks during the debate, he said only rosie o'donnell. it's truly personal and then he became president. this person you've had a war with for 12 years becomes president so she is out there, she is not so funny anymore because she so angry. ifny you go to carolyn's, maybe she's hysterical. but reality stars are in congress. now there's one in the white house. soso entertainment politics is mixing. >> tammy: would you say though that when it comes to their
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business that donald trump is having a better time than rosie o'donnell is or really anyone in hollywood at this point? >> right now at the moment? it's the american way. they have the right to do this. and donald trump was out there. he had thehe apprentice but he s stillhe fighting with a birther movement. he juggled both. >> tammy: you know west just voted not that they have a vote, but they voted to demand the removal effectively of donald trump's star on the hollywood walk of fame. do you think it should stay there? do you think it should go? >> he paid for it just like everyone else. >> tammy: people might not know that. >> if theyey did not know that. everyone p does. >> you buy the section. it's not like awarded to you and it's free, everyone on the walk of fame pays foro it. >> so he paid for that star, he rightfully paid for it but if it is becoming a problem, if it's dangerous and people are hurting one another over that star -- >> maybe they should be removed, maybe they should remove the people to prison.
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>> exactly. it's not right. no one should vandalize anything like that. that's his star. he earned it and he paid for it. >> tammy: you've got a really great attitude.ea if you are not letting the circumstances which you don't like ruin your a life. look, she's laughing. a liberal is laughing. we have great conversations that don't make us miserable. wouldn't you say, or maybe you think it needs to continue, the current liberal attitude of all rage all the time, especially from hollywood. do you think that that is worn out by now or do you think that's really the thing that liberals in hollywood should be doing, the continual perpetual outrage? >> i don't think it's all of them. we can't say everyone. that's the whole point. i'm a liberal and i'm not losing my mind. i think just with the g.o.p., both sides have extremes in both extremes are losing their minds. >> tammy: there you go, except for us. >> we are not. thank you. doing her best. fabulous stuff.
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for the 12th district seat. polls closed about an hour or so we will bring the results of that race as soon as it is called. fed up with blocking streets apparently at occupying college campus buildings, black lives matter activist in california have a new tactic. one of the officers involved in a shooting death of stefan clark in sacramento, california, was recently married but on his wedding day he had to confront invading activists. >> i was just wondering ifnv you started planning her wedding before you kill stephan clark or after and how you've been sleeping since march 18th and i know this is supposed to be the happiest day of your life. he will not have that. >> can you get out? >> we came here to drink wine and also ask you how you've been sleeping. >> tammy: robert pattillo is a civil rights attorney. he joins us now. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me, tammy. fo>> tammy: for most of us, we've seen that video. we understand the social argument about the need for it -- a lot of people talk about
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prison reform but therere needso be justice reform. we know that there are problems culturally that we have to deal with. this transcends a line in that we wonder what is it really going to accomplish? what is your point of view on this? because this just seems not only is it not really going to accomplish anything on the issues that we are facing, but it really is a provocative dynamic that changes this into such a personal framework that people are going to turn away from what the real answers could be. what you say to that? >> langston hughes once asked the question what happened to a dream deferred and this is what happens when legislation is not created that will address the needs of the people. for over a decade people have been arguing and fighting and marching for the idea of comprehensive criminal justice reform in america. when it was hands up, don't shoot, conservatives had anos issue. when it was taking an issue, conservatives had an issue, when it was i can't breathe, conservatives had an issue. what exactly is the protest that these individuals want people to have that will get them motivated on the issue of criminal justice reform?
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if we want the protesters to stop we need to have congressional leadership. >> tammy: the white house, ivanka trump and thewa president have bothed talked about the ned for prison reform or justice reform. that's a discussion. many black leaders and pastors have visited the president in the white house and they get attacked for talking with the president about policy and about moving forward with the issues. if we do have a problem, would you go and meet with the president? to have a problem with black activists and people at least within the black community who are leadership meeting with the president to deal with these issues directly instead of invading a private citizen's wedding? don't you think one would be more productive than the other? >> absolutely. i agree with you completely. i applaud the pastors for meeting with president trump. i would meet with the present all day any day. frederick douglass met with andrew johnson in 1856, a former slave holder to work out issues. ther only way to make progress s by meeting, talking and pushing through legislation.
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it was absolutely necessary. we need them to stop delaying the bill. we need less talk, more action. >> you are a civil rights p.torney. this is about getting things done. but americans see on television this kind of action of people trying to ruin, as dimensioned, they knew, it's like let's ruin this guys happiest day in his life. you realize that you are not winning people -- this is not a way to win friends and influence people, that this conversation about things americans generally agree on, we are all affected by a justice system that's unfair. but isn't this the kind of thing just keeps people distracted away from real solutions? you have to admit that. >> unfortunately these are the things in america that get attention. there has been more attention on this story than there was with the 17 pastors meeting with president trump last week to push prison reform. >> tammy: you've been talking to the mainstream media about that. that's one of the issues. how is the media covering the
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president's work? and when it's with the communities that the democrats normally lay claim to it doesn't get coverage. they don't want to talk about the president having success. instead, and this is what you should be upset about, the media promoting things that make activist communities look bad and then they play into it. isn't that something you should be speaking out against? >> if you look at the 1960s, ifif you look at the press clippings, they demonized the freedom writers. they demonized king as an outside agitator. >> tammy: whose they? >> there's never an acceptable way to protest until something is done. i think congressional and presidential leadership on this issue -- all they want is something done. >> tammy: martin luther king jr., and we know the coverage of that and it was powerful and it made the difference. when media wants to cover something properly they will. inme this case i think we are al be taken for a ride but i love your position regarding the president and really having an
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right? >> tammy: michael ware directed faith outreach efforts for the obama campaign in 2012. he just wrote an article morning that democrats are entirely too focused on abortion, and he recently spoke to tucker about that article. >> tucker: what did you mean when you said that, that they are too focused on abortion? >> while there is a range of implications of cavanaugh filling this seat, or concerns from a democratic policy perspective from immigration to voting rights to corporate power and workers protection, and yet out of the gate it looks like the only thing the supreme court was going to roll on was abortion. and you saw a major activist and even some democratic leaders say that the preeminent focus was on roe v. wade, which too many democratic voters and i think many americans, seems a bit off. certainly if you are pro-choice, you have a right to ask
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questions and press cavanaugh on that but it seems to be a bit out of perspective for me. >> that seems to be a theme though, i think there are plenty of people who think under certain circumstances, abortion ought to be legal. i imagine there are some circumstances where it ought to be allowed but not on board with abortions for selection or third trimester abortion. there ought to be common sense limits on it but that's not the position of the party anymore. >> the party has moved quite a bit on this issue but it's been a relatively recent move. it used to be that democratic party throughout the party, people called for abortion to be safe, legal and rare. barack obama called as president for the number of abortions to be reduced. we saw the abortion rate in this country to reach its all-time
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low. it wasn't too long ago that you had democrats that had a bit more of a humble approach to the issue of abortion. but something changed. in 2018, and instead of saying that abortion should be safe, legal and rare, but she actually and extended a case for late-term abortion. we also saw in 2016 the democratic party platform for the first time and repeal of the hyde amendment which bans federal funding for abortion. these aren't long-standing positions and they don't need to be positions the party carries forward. and the democrats are out of power in so many cases. >> there's something tragic
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about it and a moral dimension to it no matter where you are in the spectrum. no matter where you are only section. why not just admit that and say abortion doesn't make you happy, we don't want a lot of abortions but if you said that today i think it would be disqualified and the democratic primary. >> if that's true then barack obama would have to be disqualified. he called abortion a tragic issue and again, he spoke repeatedly to his desire to see abortions reduced, but it does -- there is an activist portion of the party that p frankly democratic victory seems to be secondary to them and as long as party leaders take the most unapologetic approach to this issue as possible and i think that we see in the for that. we've seen the cost of that and president trump being in the white house, we'd seen the cost in someone like senator pat toomey representing pennsylvania instead of katie mcginty. and my hope is a democrat would be that the party would not take that approach in 2018.
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>> tammy: you can see tucker's full interview with michael on the "tucker carlson tonight" facebook page. coming up now, that president's twitter feud with lebron james as liberals once again calling trump a racist. candace owens joins us for that coming up next. ♪ i want to keep you know, stacking up the memories and the miles and the years. he's gonna get mine but i'm gonna get a new one! oh yeah! he's gonna get mine but i'm gonna get a new one! when it's time for your old chevy truck to become their new chevy truck, there's truck month. get 10 or 14 percent below msrp on 2018 silverado pickups when you finance with gm financial. plus, during truck month make no monthly payments for 90 days. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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♪ >> the left will accuse president trump of racism no matter what but this week they're stated excuse is the presidents twitter attack on nva star lebron james. >> all the black community has come to view this president as someone who looks down on us and who has an attitude about us that is nothing short of racist.
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>> these are no longer racial dog whistles, these are fog horns. >> people of color who where attacked by their fellow citizens who feel emboldened to be publicly racist because the president is. >> tammy: candace owens' attorney, she joins us now, great to be sitting across the table from you. >> thank you for having me. >> tammy: normal if you are talking to tucker you would be in a box of satellites but here we are in studio. you are a young african-american woman. you hear everybody talking about racism. we know racism exists and yet with this constant harangue on the president, a man who has clearly improved the quality of life for african-americans, the unemployment rate at historical rows, everyone having more money in their pockets, that really adds to personal freedom. what is your reaction to this kind of response to a president who actually said to a lot of people that they are dumb, white and black? how do you respond to all of this? >> that's the exact key that you just said. the left has been operating under this very bizarre assumption that you can't
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critique a black person in this country unless it makes you automatically racist. that's ridiculous, that's false. i'm critiqued every day. usually i'm called a [bleep] and referred to as a lot of racial slurs in my twitter feed because i'm a conservative black thinker. maxine waters is not a smart person. the president insult a lot of people, definitely not looking at color when he's talking to someone and quite frankly the way that lebron conducted himself in that area and i don't want to take with him what he did, opening the school with an incredible feat that he did but don lemon got him in an interview. don lemon was the smarter person in the room, as trump said. he knew what he was doing for cnn. he wanted lebron to say something but the president. they couldn't have cared less about the school opening. they were there to get that 52nd sound bite to get him to say something nasty about the president and that would be their new story. unfortunately he's brilliant on
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the court, he does not how to operate politically. >> tammy: the media has abandoned its job of informing americans about a whole host of amazing things that are going on, including the issue of the jobs reports, the nature of what the tax cuts have done. this improves the quality of life's for everyone but you don't want to hear about that. they only want to hear about things if it's negative about the president. at the same time, we are in a racialist dynamic where race issues are used politically and lebron james said and this is everyone's right, sports is not enough for him. he wants to make a difference in the world. that's why we are here. we want to do that as well. for him also to accuse the president of trying to divide us and using the nfl take a knee protest aren't those protests the dividing line and isn't the president defending effectively the country against that kind of racial division? >> that's exactly correct. it look, i would welcome a dialogue with lebron james.
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he is in this regard ignorant man. i'm going to refer to him as a human. he knows very little about politics. >> tammy: that's the rhetoric everywhere within the black community, would you agree? >> the reason why they really hung onto this and why cnn wanted to get lebron james and they wanted him -- they essentially attacked him without him knowing it and they used him to get this out is because what was also released at the same time, the rasmussen poll, black support for donald trump has doubled since last year. the exact same time. the rhetoric. 29%. >> tammy: it's a remarkable transition. black people aren't believing this anymore so they are saying what are we going to do? they go back to what they always do, they bring the black idol and say to the community this is racist and hope that we will be sleeping and we are going to believe it. but we aren't anymore. >> tammy: he's a smart guy and i think perhaps may be the president should invite him to the white house. and they can have a conversation. >> if that's too much for lebron james i would love to sit down with him and explain.
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>> tammy: he cares about the community and i think all of this is a distraction. there's too much that we all have to do. great job, nice talking to you. >> thank you so much. >> tammy: and nyu professor tried to challenge political correctness at his school and found himself targeted by the left. now he has a book about that experience. he's coming up next. ♪ they didn't work for me. i didn't think anything was going to work for me until i tried chantix. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. i needed that to quit. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away
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so no matter what, you're guaranteed to have a perfect drive. [laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? >> tammy: this is a fox news alert. more results are coming in in a closely watched race in ohio. it's a special election for a congressional seat. republican troy balderston is running against democrat danny o'connor for the 12 districts to eat. poll closed about 90 minutes ago. fox will bring you the results of that race as soon as it is called. it is time now for campus craziness. at the university of minnesota administrators are launching an assault on free speech as they are considering a new policy that could expel any student or fire any faculty member who uses
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the so-called wrong pronouns for other people. experts say the policy will likely be unconstitutional, but that may not stop the left. michael p is a professor at new york university. after he questioned himselfio te epidemic of political correctness on campus he wasam attacked by his own school administration and later sued them for defamation. he now has a new book out. professor joins us right now. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> tammy: you of all people know the nature of what's happening. new york is a liberal city, nyu is the most liberal university. with that, you would think all kinds of things are taught and freethinking is taught in the encouraging of ideas, but with this dynamic of pronouns and firing people who don't use the right words, et cetera, this is not so far from what youth would've expected. >> absolutely. what's happening there with the pronouns in minnesota is perfectly consistent with what i've documented in this book. i don't call them liberals, i
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call them the illiberal left. they are entirely in control of the university system throughout the country. >> tammy: we have to worry because once you get out of high school, this is for many people their first experience of something beyond their hometown with larger ideas and it really has become a conditioning if you will. it's like a conditioning camp and thenni we wonder why someone like alexandria ocasio-cortez, congressional candidate here, democratic socialist, majored in economics but doesn't understand how unemployment works. so we got people coming out of college who don't understand the facts of the business, but they know to hate conservatives. >> rigorous disciplines have been replaced by indoctrination, by social justice, ideological indoctrination in which it is not about whether you learn scientific or even other theoretical types of thinking.
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it is rather that you imbibe the correct pablum on the regular basis. it's just a travesty. >> tammy: with the exception of a few universities this seems to be nationwide. it's not just nyu or other universities. how did it happen? n you were there, you are standing up against it. we know that your fellow professors have not supported you, that everyone is quiet because you know you can lose her career. everything can be over. how are you faring at school and at work? pickle i'm faring well just because i stand strong. they did move my office to the russian department, which is white interesting. >> tammy: that's pretty funny actually. they at least still have a sense of humor.al >> where it came from is what i track in my book and it comes from a long lineage of thinking, most of it postmodern theory, but also maoist and soviets techniques and disciplinary ideas. >> tammy: that's what's so ironic care. american liberals, we stand against that.
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even if you have an idea that people don't like then you can defeat it with a better idea. that conversation has to happen. that is now effectively being killed if it's not already killed in the american university system. >> if you have an idea they deem discursive violence they call it they don't allow you to eveny voice it whatsoever.. this allows with lack of trumped all my competition, it allows the most outlandish things to pass off as legitimate discours discourse. >> tammy: in your book that becomes the issue. what do parents do, what is the next step here?ha are you suggesting something when it comes to defeating this or at least changing the tide? >> my final conclusion is that social justice ideology is effectively a religion and so what we have is a religion being proffered as if it's neutral --
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-- mostly when i got wrap it up. people can get your book, my name is tammy bruce, that's it. thanks for joining us, stay for election results throughout the night. good night from new york, "hannity" is next. ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we have huge breaking news on thousands of fronts including five states. first, a shocking breaking news report from john solomon. it's even worse than we originally thought. tonight we have clear evidence that former associate deputy attorney general bruce ohr was at the very center ofal the clinton campaign's effort to influence and rig the 2016 election and actually buy your federal government as a tool to do this against donald trump. this is worse than we ever thought.yy now, newly declassified texts, personal memos, and han

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