♪ >> dana: i'm dana perino with morgan or tagus, geraldo rivera, jason chaffetz, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." the rnc is controlling democrats for appearing to come up short in ohio's 12th district special election, a race that is still too close to call. >> in ohio 12 but no cigar, at least not yet. >> this is a moral victory for the democrats. the fact that they are this close. >> you want a real victory. >> i don't know if it's a moral victory or whatever.

>> moral victory. >> moral victory. >> moral victory. >> dana: karl rove reacting to the result saying that the blue wave could be receiving an republicans have a fighting chance to get the house majority. this comes as more democrats are distancing themselves from party leader nancy pelosi. >> would you back pelosi for speaker if you win in the house? >> we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, as we mentioned. i have to win my race first. we've got to take a look at what's going on and winning the house in november. once the house is won, we have to make the decision. >> we -- will you vote for it nancy pelosi? >> probably not. she doesn't speak about the issues that are important to the families of the congressional district. >> dana: she doesn't get in the middle. she lets them say what they want

because she wants to win. >> jason: she is keeping track. >> dana: she is keeping track. she keeps quiet. >> jason: it's a legitimate question because it's the first thing you do as a new member of congress. you have to go in front of the entire body and say who you're going to vote for. the democrats lack leadership. i don't think they have the right policies. to the point of the peace beforehand, i don't think that there is some big wave coming from the democrats. i sat there in 2010, the rafter, the election after barack obama. they took a net of 63 seats that switched hands and there was a big tsunami. i don't see any evidence of it happening. >> dana: i was so excited to talk politics. i didn't do what i meant to do, which is to introduce morgan to all of you. i am very rude. i'm known for that, being very rude. morgan, welcome. >> morgan: i am thrilled to be here. i've been watching this show for

ages. i live in new york city but i am from florida. i am in the u.s. navy reserves. i have at a civilian -- as a civilian. we have some fun pictures of me looking like a dork. that's a graceful picture of me in the saudi arabian desert. this is me getting promoted a couple years ago. one of my favorite things, i am an identical twin. i will owe you $10 if you can guess who is me. >> greg: you look totally different. >> jason: that is not you in the glasses. >> morgan: i moved to new york in 2006 to move on k.t. mcfarland's senate race as her press secretary. >> dana: you said your grandfather use to... >> morgan: i said before the

show that i love geraldo because i grew up with my grandfather watching cable news. we watch the first iraq war with the reporting. >> geraldo: '90, '91. i used to get all the pretty girls saying i love you. then they started saying my mother loves you. now they say my grandmother loves you. >> dana: greg, all the older ladies love you. >> greg: i am like the sun they allow to get away with saying really awful things. they would punish me if i was there kid, but they treat me like he doesn't really mean tha that. >> dana: morgan, welcome to you. would you like to comment on the state of the midterms? >> morgan: i was listening to what they were saying, moral victory. that is like the new liberal version of participation trophy. i am the millennial on the pane panel. we were kids and got participation trophies.

as long as they want to keep saying moral victory, they can have their petition patient trophy. there is one winner and one person gets sworn in. >> dana: at reading karl rove's column this morning reminded me of august of 2006. he was deputy chief of staff. i would say they are asking me how you're feeling about the midterms and he would tell me all these things are going in our direction. until they worked. >> geraldo: midterms are tough. the thing about moral victories, it's interesting. the participation trophy. i think of a moral victory plus $2.75 gets you a token on the subway. they don't even use tokens anymore. i think the democrats are facing a potential problem with this division. alexandria ocasio-cortez, we've been playing her. she's the best advertisement for republicans. she represents a wing of the

democratic party that is fervent, energetic. but it is not the nancy pelosi mainstream wing of let's get things done. there is a division in the democratic party that i think bodes well for republicans. i don't think trump or the republicans are out of the woods by any means. but i think at this stage with less than three months to go before the election, democrats could be far more united, more formidable. they have put out some good candidates. the guy in ohio. he's a good candidate. he came up short. there will be some marginal shifting. if i was handicapping, i would say it's a wash. >> dana: the one thing about sandra ocasio-cortez, it's not that conservatives are putting her on television and interviewing her. the media has made her a star. >> greg: exactly. what's being done with her is what cnn did with trump. they shined a spotlight on this unusual character and they laugh. but remember who got the last

laugh. it wasn't cnn. it was trump. when you target somebody, often the target gets better because they are listening and they learned from the mistakes and they see what works. she might grow precisely because of the sunlight. as for the ad -- >> geraldo: i don't mean to cut you off but do you think a 50-year-old white guy is going to vote for alexandria ocasio-cortez under any circumstances? >> greg: of course. >> geraldo: any circumstances. do you think it's really going to happen? >> greg: sure, why not. >> geraldo: i don't see it. >> greg: i think you asked that question so you can answer it. that's what geraldo does. i believe the democrats moral victories are to them real victories. i hope they are undefeated with their moral victories. moral victories will not nominate a judge. they will not reverse executive orders. you won't get to the white house

on a moral victory. i will take in immoral victory over a moral loss. >> i would like to see the democratic partly be less negative because trump was doing the best negative case we could ever do. start to be more affirmative about what the democrats will do when we get in power. you look back, i believe that's why the democrats have lost in the past. we have not had a credible vision that people believed would make their life better. and people have to believe you can do it. it can't be abstract, theoretical, pie in the sky. >> dana: are democrats to negative? >> jason: yes. but they don't have anything to go to. they have the resistance movement, scorched earth, raise your taxes, give the gavel to nancy pelosi. if you ask the democrats stand for, the answer is they want to get rid of the tax cuts.

they want to go back to these policies that don't make any sense. i don't think they have a positive message. and the same andrew cuomo, we are going to talk about it later, says -- it doesn't sound like someone trying to be positive. >> dana: as everyone complains about negative ads, negative ads work. you're not in power, the only way to get your message across is to say the other person is doing bad. even if you want to get a positive message out there, in some ways, i guess alexandria for example is going out. it looks like a positive message but if you are an independent voter, might be negative. >> morgan: i wish people would stop comparing her to a beauty queen. as a former beauty queen, everyone in the miss america system is a lot smarter than her. i think she is terrible on television. look at the stop she says. >> geraldo: she's terrible because she hasn't thought about the wonderful programs she keeps proposing. >> morgan: there is no way to

pay for them without bankrupting the u.s. government. what you are getting at is who is motivated to come out to the polls in november. that's the real question. i think even if they don't have a unifying message from i think democrats are motivated to come out. i think it's going to be a really long election night and it's going to be close in a lot of districts. while i don't love the message, i do think they are motivated i think that's why you're seeing the president get involved in these primary races in the races around the country. quite frankly, he is -- >> dana: the president was doing a roundtable in new jersey talk about prison reform. you think most democrats would agree with him on that and want to come to the table and work with him. it is something that could get done. >> greg: and wasn't a roundtable. did you notice? it was rectangular. what you were talking about, the problems with the democratic party, it's not just the negative messaging but the lack of ideas. think about trump, he's "any

idea. you saw with north korea is the ultimate example. i think he will be open to prison reform. he is open to certain things about immigration. essentially granting amnesty to over a million people. i spend a lot of time in pharmacies for reason i can't get into. but the democratic party, when it comes to health care, they are throwing socialism around because they don't have any ideas. the drugstore cvs is putting out a telemedicine app. it's going to let you see a doctor on whatever screen you have. that solves health care. not socialism. not free health care. you could give bernie sanders trillions of dollars, he wouldn't come up with an idea like telemedicine. all the problems are going to be solved by capitalism. the democrats are scared of ideas and innovation. >> geraldo: nobody on either side of the aisle is going to work with the other side.

infrastructure is a no-brainer. >> dana: that's why the private sector figures it out. that type of innovation. you don't have to have health insurance. if you want to pay out of your pocket for telemedicine. it could solve a lot of problems. >> greg: that's the solution. it isn't socialism. the democrats came up with specific ideas for once, it would be encouraging, just once. one idea. >> dana: we will see if they hear you and if they respond. with one idea, just one more idea. >> geraldo: how about legalizing some of his been here for 30 years and has citizen children? >> dana: that was what greg said. the president was open to that. >> greg: you're looking at somebody progressive drug laws right now. >> dana: we could keep going but we have to move move on. "new york times" columnist urges the mainstream media to team up against president trump, and greg will tell you why. >> greg: i will.

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♪ >> greg: in "the new york times" yesterday, thomas friedman wrote that instead of prattling on about issues like jobs or the great economy, the media should

spotlight trump's evil personality. because it will help the democrats by discouraging republicans from backing trump. he wrote "the whole country needs to see every tweet, every relic of every word in every reaction so that they can ask themselves, is this who i want my kids to see as our president?" what a great idea. remember what happened the last time the media covered every tweet, every relic of every word in every reaction of donald trump? when every wink, nudge, cough became part of the medias start snark-nado. there were 300 republican candidates but the press chased the orange meteor precisely for the things they hate about them now. trump was great tv. he was shocking. screw rick perry rand paul, and the other nobodies. trump got a billion dollars worth of free airtime and not led by fox news who actually featured commentators who challenge trump over his behavior and beliefs. it was cnn who led the charge.

other drips didn't seem to mind because they thought hillary had it in the bag anyway and they had no other way to get people to watch their boring, mindless coverage. telling the media to focus on terms behavior, you are in effet saying hey, remember how we elected trump in 2016? let's do it again. isn't that true, morgan? seems like friedman has amnesia. the more you focus on trump, the better he does i think. >> morgan: it's interesting that this advice is coming from people, the most boring dinner party ever. they're having a glass of expensive wine and say isn't trump awful? you are having people that have no understanding of social media and how the president actually go straight to the america people advocating for the media covering him in general. this plays directly into his playbook, as you said. i was on the other side of him in the primary, so i know what it's like for him to get all the media coverage.

he did it brilliantly. he speaks directly to the american people. i don't know what friedman thinks he's doing that i think the same people reading this and the times i do see people who sit at boring dinner parties and complain about the president. >> geraldo: who did you work for? >> morgan: jeb. it didn't end well. >> greg: there were a lot of people on fox were on the other side. i was watching the coverage on cnn and going overseas expatriate matches just cnn but msnbc. "morning joe" should've been morning trump. unlike "fox & friends." i love "fox & friends." i am up morning. jason. is it good to get personal? >> jason: when i came into congress in 2008, when i got to the end, the lack of objective media. i have seen how have the -- how they have change the rules. things they wouldn't cover under barack obama they now want to

cover incessantly with donald trump. they have totally flipped the equation. to be, in a contrived way, actually advocating this is what we need to do so we can all get together on the same page, it is so contrived. there are very few media outlets that i really trust. when you want to read the paper in the morning, i think "the wall street journal" gives the fairest, straightest objective viewpoint. gone are the days of "the new york times" or someone like that that will objectively actually give you the straight up news. >> greg: i believe that is owned by our parent company. >> dana: i believe so. i am a subscriber. between 2000 and 2008, it was the same. this was when the media, they have to fight against president bush on everything, every issue, every utterance. it was amplified. as greg pointed out, they were asleep during the obama years. this is what i think. there has been some journalism that's had an effect on the

trump administration. if you look at the hhs, former hhs secretary tom price. he had to resign after the reporting. "the new york times" and others mainly "the new york times" focusing on scott pruitt. they didn't have to focus on president trump. they were doing journalism and i had an effect. >> greg: so did scott pruitt. he had an effect. that's what he went after him. he was doing some good stuff. he was doing stupid stuff too. >> dana: you can do good policy without the other. the other thing i would say is if they cover every tweet and every utterance, then they are not covering the other stuff. there is limited room in the newspaper. if they want to do the tweets, they can do that any of the stuff goes on to the radar. >> geraldo: people like tom friedman. he is dead wrong on this. but they don't get is that trump is a movie star. he has charisma.

you mentioned jeb bush. i like him a lot. i interviewed him a lot while he was governor. next to trump, it was vanilla next to a banana split with a cherry on top. >> morgan: he did that one by one through the primary. >> geraldo: they couldn't compete with someone with that kind of charisma. you can love trump or hate trump but there's a magnetism about him. the more you see him and he doesn't blow the world up, using mimi's not so bad. the economy is okay. it's really good in fact. we are not at war with north korea. the iranians, they haven't really heard us. the more he's around, the more he will get used to him and i think it works in his favor. >> morgan: what is surprising to me is it out there that the media is not for the president. he sort of said the media should be against the president.

>> greg: he was honest. >> morgan: is he admitting the fake news? >> dana: he was honest and said don't you wish we could be china for a day. we could get so much done. >> greg: every now and then he lets it slip. he pulls back the curtain and we see what we really know to be true. nancy pelosi's outrageous new plan to help illegal immigrants. find out what it is next. my father passed this truck down to me,

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it gives leverage to every family, every mom who courageously brought her child across the desert to escape. >> geraldo: they minority leader in el paso. democratic governor of new york slamming i.c.e. with this new threat. >> i will do nothing cooperatively with i.c.e. i have sent them letters asking for an investigation. i have said if they do any criminal acts, which a police force can do, we will take criminal action against i.c.e. i believe they are politically motivated. >> geraldo: let me ask you. did you leave congress because of your frustration that the two bodies and the two sides could not work together? >> jason: it was a big part of it. something like immigration, i passed a bill dealing with immigration. 385 votes in the house, very bipartisan. the senate didn't take it up. the harry reid folks said the reason were not going to do it is we can't allow republicans have a victory on immigration.

it's terribly frustrating, and it's wrong. i think those messages are fundamentally wrong. i do believe the polling that the number one issue going into the midterm will be immigration. there are eight congressional days left and the house of representatives. they have to pass a continuing resolution or an omnibus, and the president has laid down the law. there is going to be funding in there, or i will veto that bill. that has to happen before the election. >> geraldo: do taken at his word that he's actually going to shut down the government? if he does, how do you get it reopened? what happens to reopen? >> jason: this is why think you need to make the case to the american people there's no reason you can't put in $25 billion to fund a wall. extrapolate that over ten years. >> geraldo: i will give you 25 billion for the wall if you give me a green light for the dreamers. >> jason: i think what the president has offered goes far beyond what he promised in the election. he has actually agreed to do

that sort of thing. >> geraldo: you would allow what many of the party call amnesty for the dreamers? >> jason: i reject the amnesty. i don't think you have to put them on a pathway to citizenship but i think you can give them legal status so they have the certainty. you've got to get rid of their rewards and incentives to be here illegally. what nancy pelosi is doing in el paso is morally wrong to encourage people to cross the desert come up with their lives on the line. they should be going to the u.s. embassy in el salvador rather than putting their lives in peril. >> geraldo: are you shocked, morgan, that the abolish i.c.e. plank has gained such great ability? >> morgan: you know more about the democrat mainstream more than i do. >> geraldo: i'm not democrat. >> jason: the moderate victories, the thing that has surprised me as i've worked closely for the past over a decade with people at dhs and i.c.e. when i was in government

and my reserve capacity. these are people that sign up to serve their government, serving faithfully. i sort of see what's happening with i.c.e. is the same thing we saw several years ago the democrats doing to police around america. it was okay to bash the police a few years ago. now it's okay to bash i.c.e. if you want to talk about reforming the institution of that's fine. any government institutions. to discourage people who raise their hand and take an oath to serve our country is flat-out disgusting. >> geraldo: i agree with jason's proposal, dana, that immigration is the biggest issue. i think it encapsulates a lot of other things. race and jobs and social classes and all the rest. which image is more powerful? the classic image of a brown wave overwhelming the southern border, all these immigrants coming in and ruining our quality of life. or i.c.e. going into peaceable homes and going after diego

garcia, who has been a gardener for 30 years and he married an american citizen and his children were born here. which image is more powerful, and won't that, in jason's -- >> dana: it depends where you sit. i think the wave is definitely probably the more powerful image, as the president paints it. earlier this week, there was a story about a marine his wife who came here illegally 30 years ago or something. they have children. he served in iraq three times. she got deported. it was an ap story. it didn't get a ton of coverage. if you get enough of those, you might to see some pushback. i actually think that president trump, if the republicans lose the house, his chances of getting an immigration bill that he could live with and that he could support and would be good for the country is more possible than if the republicans keep the house. >> geraldo: why? >> dana: the republicans have shown over and over they are not willing to make a deal. and also because of what jason

just said. democrats are saying we can't give the republicans a win. think of what newt gingrich did in 1996 with bill clinton on welfare reform. it was a big issue. it helped president clinton win reelection because it basically changes the paradigm. it's not that this can't get done. it's the republican -- i think it is more likely it gets done because of trump. >> geraldo: where do you stand on that? which of those images grips you? >> greg: i reject the black-and-white nature of the conversation. you could hold a number of stances, competing stances on immigration. it's like a stock portfolio. you can be for a process that enables safe legal immigration while curbing illegal immigration or other types. when you say something like that, you feed into the medias gaping maw and it turns into you hate foreigners. it's either you are for this are

against it. if you are for law, there something wrong. that's not how it is. you can hold different position positions. the difference between the right on the left are laws. the difference in the immigration debate is the stance of abiding the law. the laughter say no. sanctuary. people are fleeing. refugees fleeing countries because there are laws missing. the reason they are coming to america is because our loss great border which enables freedom that allows people to live their lives and safety. if you look at somalia, which has no laws. the congo, venezuela. they have no laws. you've got to get out. >> geraldo: to say you have to obey the law is b.s. it is cover. you are avoiding dealing with the issue of where you are. >> greg: i just explained the issue and you totally ignored what i said. let me explain it to you one

more time and i will do it slow. you can have competing notions about immigration. you can be for legal immigration because you want more immigrants here. i am that guy. i am even for a pathway to citizenship. i believe illegal immigration is breaking the law. if you could somehow -- >> geraldo: so is speeding. >> greg: i am against speeding too. i am sure you are not, geraldo. >> geraldo: the showdown intensifies. thanks for the pen. stay tuned. the president's legal team attacks the mueller probe. 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. bowl without me. frank.' i'm going to get nachos. snack bar's closed. gah! ah, ah ah. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪

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>> i've never been involved in investigation on either side that is more illegitimate. if it's not over by september, we have a very, very serious violation of the justice department rules that you shouldn't be conducting one of these investigations in the 60-day period. the real story is not that this case isn't going to fizzle. it's going to blow up on them. there is a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. >> jason: giuliani also thinks drawn-out negotiations over a potential interview with the president could benefit the g.o.p. in the midterms. >> dana: so we should keep the investigation going through december to help the midterms rather than saying it should be wrapped up by september? they have to take their pick on that. also i remember senator grassley, when he interviewed, when he had comey to testify, he said why did you let a date drive your decision on an investigation into

hillary clinton. that's inappropriate. the investigation should finish when it finishes and they shouldn't try to do that. >> jason: they are going to have a hard time with that argument in light of what happened to hillary clinton. the democrats aren't going to buy it. >> geraldo: i think the attack on hillary clinton during then gauzy is why her candidacy had legs anyway. it was a big mistake by the republicans. [laughter] not by hillary clinton. >> greg: to quote geraldo, that is b.s. >> jason: we are switching topics. >> geraldo: i like it. in terms of the mueller investigation of the president, the one thing i want to say, if the president credits my advice, i hope he's listening. do not testify before mueller's investigation.

it's a trap. it's a landline you cannot survive. for example, here's the questio question. i am mueller. you are the president. did you ever cheat on your wife, mr. president? what's your answer? >> morgan: jason looks really nervous right now. >> jason: i have never cheated on my wife. >> geraldo: he cannot put himself, i don't care. mueller could promise the world, velvet gloves. >> jason: based on your benghazi answer, your time has expired. >> morgan: i've forgotten what we are talking about. >> jason: giuliani is saying there's more information's going to come out here. you mentioned earlier the motivation is what drives turnout. do people say we need to get out there and protect our president? >> morgan: what law enforcement has to be careful about is that they are

not politicians and they don't understand politics. as you talked about hillary clinton, i think if we brought anyone from her campaign on right now, they would blame jim comey for what he did a few weeks before the election. i do think mueller has to be careful, and i think even though he has a lot of credibility, there is legitimate reasons when the president says there are 17 angry democrats and people who attended hillary's election night party and people who donated. for the average american, the problem with that as we've lost both sides, lost faith and credibility in the fbi and doj. i don't think that's a good thing. i think during the election, democrats were mad at the fbi. now republicans are. it's not good for it to be partisan. we need rules where they say there is no standard. there is the memo from 2012. we need to have a standard as we get closer to elections. once the standard? am i boring you that match? >> dana: we have 30 seconds left. >> greg: i am suffering from

investigation fatigue. i think i can speak for all of america that they would rather do my laundry than here about this investigation. remember bob beckel? he would boycott segments. he would go like this. >> dana: what segments did he boycott? >> greg: benghazi. you don't care about this collusion stuff. it is b.s. >> dana: a legal scholar at berkeley was at the 2:00 show. he said he believes the president should testify. he said he is the chief law enforcement officer. >> jason: the president will testify. he doesn't, the advice he gets. our smartphones leading to the death of conversation?

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for verbal communication? dana. hold on. >> dana: are you going to call me? >> morgan: that was my attempt at humor. >> dana: studies that say people think it's rude to call now. if you called, it would take less time to communicate your message than if you are texting five times to feed figure out e you are in the park to hook up. or meet up. >> greg: whoa, dana. first she is swearing. now she is hooking up in the park. [laughter] >> dana: i want to commend arthur brooks, he has a new podcast. he talked about this whole problem about phones killing conversations, and one of the things he talked about is how humans evolve and we have a voice and it's a tool. that's how you know greg is telling a joke. if he texts you, you don't know.

you use your voice. >> morgan: that's why you use an emoji. jason. >> jason: i love that we are still calling them smartphones. it's not like they are dumb ones out there. they do almost everything you can possibly want them to do. my biggest concern is how it's going to change particularly a younger generation. i think sporting events, with the supreme court ruling, it's going to change how you watch sports now that gaming is going to happen on phones. people betting five bucks if they are going to make the free throw or not. i am worried what the government and private companies are doing with facial recognition. the government has, one out of every two people is in a database. >> morgan: you are taking is way too seriously. >> jason: i lose sleep over this stuff.

>> morgan: do you lose sleep over your smartphone? c7 what i don't do is have voice messages on my phone. i didn't set up my phone at all for voice messages. what people do is, they want to make a point. you have to go pick up the garbage and they say okay. you have no chance to respond, rebut, deny. i don't have a lot of talking on the phone. i've not set up the voice mail. >> morgan: if i call you, greg, would you answer the phone? >> greg: of course. this also prevents conversations, which is great. whenever i see kilmeade coming down the hall, i do that. i am so good at impersonating serious angry phone calls because no one interrupts an angry phone call. look, i told you already the tests were negative. we have this conversation about video games 20 years ago. 48 years ago with tv. 200,000 years ago, it was the destructive impact of cave drawings. whenever there is technology, we get these fears.

this is just an external drive for your brain. you have everything in the universe on this. >> morgan: i think talking on the phone is weird because i am a millennial. granted, i love you. >> dana: are you age shaming the rest of us? >> morgan: i am an old millennial and they want to hold on to my youth. >> greg: i am gen x. >> geraldo: the fear is that people are missing the real world because their head is buried. >> dana: the real world is great you're turning onto the street when you barely clip a passing car. minor accident - no big deal, right? wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different insurance company.

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♪ >> dana: time for one more thing. it's nearly back-to-school season that means all of our college associates are heading back to school. i think the fox news college associate program is certainly one of the best i've ever been involved with. all of these guys get to participate and learn across the channel and all the different departments and today it's our college associates last day with us. she has been a key part of the team the last few months, there she is. she's going to be headed back to the university of maryland where

she can cheer on the terrapins. congratulations, thank you, go do a semester's worth of work and maybe we will hire you one day. >> greg: i'm going to be at ridgewood new jersey at 8:00 signing books. if you're in the neighborhood drive over, i will sign your book and i will say something rude to one of your parents. let's do this. we are just around the corner from nfl preseason, one of the brightest stars right now and he can deliver a hit. there he is. this is some really thrilling tape, i can tell by the response of my panelists who think maybe i have a mental illness. they were given to be by a man

named sean. he gives them to me in the park where you hook up. >> geraldo: saturday night, i will be attending in east hampton a benefit called authors night, it's authors night in the hamptons, east of long island. my book, the geraldo show, is much more renaissance than you give it credit for. hosts hundreds of authors, a room full of them last year. it's hosted by alec baldwin, it will be interesting i wonder how he is going to respond to me being there. >> dana: and i bet he gives you a big bear hug. >> geraldo: pick up a copy of my book.

>> jason: law enforcement needs all the help they can get end in florida they got a different kind of help. >> a large group of cows are literally following her and chasing her. >> jason: in seminole county, the driver gets out, she is lost and she doesn't know what she's doing and the cows chase the alleged perpetrator and law enforcement took her down. >> morgan: 11 years ago, i was in baghdad and i celebrated hanukkah at saddam's palace. i ran into someone this weekend who i spent hanukkah dinner with and it's pretty funny -- this marine corps officer let me drive his humvee around the green zone. it was pretty cool to run into

someone 11 years later. >> dana: thanks for being here today, set your dvr and never miss an episode of the five. he is the news guy you can't help but like, up next it's mik mike. >> mike: the final frontier becomes the next frontier, russia says the new u.s. sanctions over the poisoning of a spy are unacceptable and a deeply disturbing look inside the mind of a teenager behind the parkland high school massacre. this is "special report" ." ♪ good evening, while welcome to washington. a new kind of space race is underway tonight and it does much more concerned with weapons and war than peace and exploration. the trump administration is formally launching its new military branch called t