standing for the national anthe national anthem. i am a college football guy now, so sick of what the nfl is doing. that is my own personal choice. unfortunately, that is all the time we have left this evening. thank you for being with us. we'll always be fair and balanced. ingraham is here. by the way, our little church at every night is apparently big news. the fact that we get each other, you take cheap shots at me all the time. >> laura: i am looking at your shirt. is that a blue shirt? you should wear more blue. that looks good on you. do you like blue? >> sean: now you will tell me how to dress, after 23 years, i will get lessons on how to wear? >> laura: joel takes good care of you. hannity, that little boy, i was doing my radio show the other day, and he called in to my show. >> sean: that 10-year-old ted? >> laura: yeah, he called her to my show, and i said, why was that so important to you, and i'm paraphrasing, and he says, because i love my country. it was such a simple statement

from a 10-year-old boy and i thought, when i was ten, i couldn't be as eloquent as he was. it is so inspiring. i'm so glad he played something positive and uplifting because it leads into our cynical conversation. >> sean: i want to bring up the nfl thing. i got to be honest, if you can't agree that the people that fought, bled, died, lost limbs for us, been disfigured for us, fighting under that flag, i don't know what we will agree on. >> laura: they say it's not about that. we have so few things -- >> sean: have a good show. by the way, you should wear black more often. i can't really see. i am blind as a bat and death. >> laura: regard to get back to insulting each other. >> sean: i'm glad you like my blue shirt. to be it looks very good. i like it. good evening, i am laura ingraham, and this is "the ingraham angle." what are sure we have tonight buried in a fox exclusive, omarosa's closest confidant inside the trump administration will be here to set the record straight about what really went on in the white house. also, we'll tell you where the

democrats have suddenly gotten very quiet about domestic abuse allegations against one of its top leaders. plus he will not believe what kinds of crimes open borders advocates are in fact defending now. and some close to that end of the show, tj tv icon will reaco the latest charges of racism against the president's biographers, democrats trying to make socialism sexy again. this is "the angle." ♪ it's stunning how democrats will simply refuse to learn. look at how they refuse, for instance, to work with trump on legalizing the dreamers, or may be on prison reform they won't work with him.

we now see that anti-trump delirium is pushing democrats further out of the american mainstream. right to socialism. a new gallup poll mexicans are dull my confirms that more democrats confirm that all might prefer socialism to capitalism. 57% view it favorably while just 47% have a favorable review of capitalism. just two years ago, those numbers were flipped. 56% then favored capitalism. of course, it could be that socialism's attractive new poster gal is changing minds. >> do you think that the future of the democratic party is socialism? >> welcome the first of all, there's a huge difference between socialism and democratic socialism. democratic socialism, really what that boils down to me, is the basic belief that i believe in a moral and wealthy america, and a moral and modern america, no person should be too poor to live in this country.

>> laura: trump believes that, too, that is why he is growing the economy so fast. or maybe as the indoctrination against capitalism on college campuses. for instance, at middlebury college, juniors can take a class called "beyond intersection malady." ": developing antiracist and anticapitalist feminism." a university of michigan textbook used for activism class teaches that capitalism should be overthrown. and according to data from open syllabus project, karl marx is the most assigned economist in u.s. college classes today. great. what college students would benefit from is a little less rage and a little more reality. like this devastating exchange -- this goes back to the '70s, one of my favorites -- between nobel prize-winning economist milton friedman and old lefty phil donahue. it should be required viewing. >> when you see the greed and the concentration of power,

aren't you ever -- did you ever have a moment of doubt about capitalism? whether greed is a good idea to run on? >> first of all, tell me, is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? do you think russia doesn't run on greed? do you think china doesn't run on greed? what is greed? of course, none of us -- is only the other ones that are greedy. the world runs on individuals pursuing their separate interests. the great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a bureaucrat. henry ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you are talking about, the only cases in recorded history, our boy they have that capitalism and largely free-trade. if you want to know where the masses are worse off, it's

exactly in the kinds of societies that depart from it. >> laura: now let's face it. without a solid grounding in real, fact-based economics and history, our young people are sitting ducks for any huckster promising freebies. free health care, free college, free housing, and the list goes on and on. free scooters. here's an indisputable historical fact that eludes the most college professors these days: there has never been a successful socialist government. not ever. 100 million people were killed in socialist regimes in the 20th century. the ussr, china, cuba, vietnam, north korea, nicaragua, zimbabwe, et cetera, et cetera. but we don't have to reach into the annals of history to tell us this. just look at venezuela today. a country rich in oil where their middle-class ones prospered. no more. since hugo chavez imposed socialism on the country, it has spiraled over downward. of course, some major hollywood

figures were once chavez's big boosters. >> the bush administration does not like this guy because he represents an anticorporate interest. he's taken over the oil and he has distributed it to the poor people. >> certainly, chavez, when he started, was on the right path, because he wanted to return this country to the people. >> laura: michael moore is now devoted to taking down trump. where their irrational theory is a badge of honor, mr. president. chavez employed government control, commandeered a once free media, and presided over the collapse of this country in a swirl of corruption unseen even in latin america. his successor, nicolas maduro, took the reins. "the washington post" reporting now that venezuela's crisis is steadily get intensifying as a result of lower oil prices, corruption, and a socialist system plagued with

mismanagement. as nicolas maduro has sought to further consolidate power, the economy, public services, security, and health care have all but collapsed. no wonder venezuelans are climbing out of the andes to get out of there. more than 10% of the population population's 4 million people of already departed. at the situation on the ground is dire. parents starved for food are abandoning children and orphanages. power, water, and sanitation services are all breaking down. government-backed militias are abusing citizens. members of the military are going awol due to scant rations. civil society is broken and venezuela and crime is on the rise. oh, and the people are choking the halls of hospitals since basic medicines are unavailable. while hiv related deaths have surged. so much for that free health care. here, the people living through the socialist hell of present-day venezuela listen.

>> i live in the streets, i want to solve all of these problems. we don't want free handouts, we want to work. >> there are people close to me who picked through the garbage, she says, people just like you and me. it affects us all. >> venezuela is starving. we are dying of hunger, all of venezuela. venezuela has practically already collapsed. >> everyone who is out here is hurting, she says. we are afraid that either the government will kill us or that we will die of some disease in the hospital because there is no medicine. >> laura: that is a government on socialism. despite all that, though, democrats think they can win back power touting the utopia of that? they truly believe that socialism is the pathway to economic security here in america? is that with her venezuelans are experiencing? i must be really out of it then. how about the people of cuba, who are still suspected to rationing booklets, that can strip how much food each of them can buy every month.

listen to peter, a man who fled communist albania honest rebranded type of socialism. >> you cannot have a democratic socialism. socialism is coercion. socialism is forced. you cannot establish a system that people don't want without using power. what happened in 1940s, the first thing they did, they disarmed the population, and anyone who disagreed with them, was subjected to arrests, torture, internment camps. my entire family was taken to a concentration camp or my father was tortured to death. >> laura: those who suffer the most under socialism have the most to teach us. one hopes that young people are listening closely. but conservatives also have a lot of work to do. they have to do more to outreach and talk to the young via education and culture. it's our responsibility to alert those who were not there or are too fixated on snapchat or how

much they hate trump to understand the dangers and horrors of socialism. but if you don't believe me or want to believe me, that is fine. i have another idea. just book a one way to get to venezuela. stay there for a few weeks. then get back to me. let us know how it feels to have all that economic freedom you were looking for. and that is "the angle." drowning out the reaction, and american for prosperity spokesman who fled from venezuela. a "washington post" opinion opinion columnist who wrote a piece called "it's time to give socialism a try," and alan dershowitz, author of the book "the case against impeaching trump." allen, recently you thought the democrats wouldn't go that far as to embrace socialism. but that new poll by gallup has to give you pause. >> it certainly does.

i'm very concerned about what academics are teaching today on university campuses instead of teaching students how to think, they are telling them what to think, and they are imposing a kind of anti-american, anticapitalist, anti-free market view. look, i am no apologist for socialism but there is a difference between cubist communism, chavez is high handed socialism 40 on communism, and sweden, which does have a mixture of socialism and capitalism. i think you overstate the arguments against socialism. the democrats can't win with socialism. my concern is that both parties are moving too far away from the center. i think the democrats clearly, their younger people are moving hard, hard, hard laugh. i think republicans, too, with their anti-immigration policies are going to alienate a lot of centrists in america. i think that we have to worry about rebuilding the center in

america. this center is where america thrives. we can have great debates between moderate liberals and moderate conservatives. i used to debate william buckley all the time on television. it was a great debate. debates today have become shouting matches between the hard left and the hard right. >> laura: out on this show, alan. not on this show. elizabeth, you are one of the young proponents of socialism. i want you to have an opportunity to state why you think it is the future. >> we are not talking about authority and authoritarian or totalitarianism. there was one stable core. the term first popped up in the 1830s and overtime commit means a lot of different things to a lot of different people prayed for the stable core is that social control over the means of production. people have tried to make that happen in different ways. >> laura: what you mean social control over the means of production? partial state ownership of major industries, is that what you are advocating? >> sometime socialist have tried to accomplish it by state

ownership of major industries, sometimes it has been through workers cooperatives, sometimes it has been through direct worker ownership of the means of production, and sometimes it is just been through democratic control over how the state uses the economic resources. >> laura: what you are advocating for is a more generous redistribution of wealth and combination of partial state ownership of industries, a combination of that? >> what you would be looking at a something that is a mixed economy, like what you have in norway. but i would advocate for, first off, but i think sanders is advocating for, is people, the united states, the american citizens, having more control over how the countries wealth, its enormous wealth, is used. instead of its enormous wealth being concentrated in the hands -- >> laura: how would you rate obama? >> not well. >> laura: not a socialist? map of socialism that you like? >> not close. >> laura: where socialism working well, the fact that you

advocate? >> norway is a really good example. >> laura: how big is norway's military? >> norway's military is not the size -- >> laura: pretty small. we carry a big burden in our country, to protect world peace, global harmony, at least, we hope to do that. we want to get back to you. andre, your family, from venezuela, you wrote a very compelling piece as well on the perils of socialism. you heard what elizabeth just says. >> with all due respect, i completely disagree and i would hope that senator sanders and mrs. ocasio-cortez quite frankly drop these failed attempts at propping up a system that just doesn't work. when you look at what happened in venezuela, a country that quite frankly has all the riches of the world, has all the resources of the world to be a superpower, and is feeling under its crippling thuggery of shoppers and nicolas maduro, who is forced not just my family to leave, but countless others, that is not a system that has worked, and to have an actual good conversation about what is happening in scandinavia, it is because of the markets and the n

market system that -- >> laura: capitalism. the rise of european capitalism. >> not socialism and the ideals that combine that. >> laura: alan, speaking of students, this is what campus reform discovered about what people may or may not understand about socialism, specifically ocasio-cortez's supporters. let's watch. >> who in your mind should pay for all of the free things? >> all of the free things? well, some of it should come from taxes, by the government should pay for it. >> but the government is funded by taxes. >> i don't know where the money would come from but they can figure it out. [laughs] >> more taxes on the rich people. >> for sure, man. they can afford it. >> tax corporations, tax of 1%, and find a way to support a living wage. >> laura: so alan, trendy lingo, "the living wage, sustainable wage, health care for all, medicare for all, free

college education, for universal, preschool, free, free, free," i mean, who doesn't like free self? better be great if we didn't have to pay for any of that front someone, as margaret thatcher said, at some point, you run out of other peoples money. that is what happened in venezuela, that is what happened throughout history, and when society breaks down, that is in the militias come out, and then you see slaughtering mysteries or starvation, which is what you pricing in venezuela. what can people do to educate young people about the perils? i know you are an old liberal. liberals aren't socialists. it's a very different approach to governing. >> we have to remember, the franklin delano roosevelt, save capitalism by introducing a lot of the elements of socialism. obviously, not to state control over industries, but i went to brooklyn college, it was free. i could have never afforded to go to college unless it was free. i think a lot of americans would like to see reallocation of

resources. look, i am a relatively wealthy person and i pay a lot of taxes. i am happy to pay more taxes -- >> laura: write a check. who is stopping you from writing a check? >> i do! but i would like you to pay more taxes, too. >> laura: i pay half my income and income taxes. >> i want to see all pregnant women being given free medical care, i want to see young people giving dominant given free medical care. but i don't want it to impact on the growth of our economy. that is a hard question. how do you allocate resources in a way that helps -- >> laura: you grow the economy. alan, you got to grow the economy. we are growing the economy. 4.1%. that is an economic boom -- that is not trickle-down, alan? trickle-down economics. >> let me make my point. we continue to grow the economy by reallocating resources to the poor and a better way. the economy doesn't trickle

down. we now have seen the 1%, 2%, 5% -- >> laura: how much have we spent on the war on poverty, do you think? about $7 trillion? >> i would like to spend more on the war on poverty and less on real wars that we don't have to fight anymore -- >> laura: we can a agree on the real war. >> it's a major failure economically. china is not going to be a threat to us immediately. so i think we can reallocate more of our money -- >> laura: they are planning for the long term. >> without adopting any authoritarianism, republicans have their problem, too. a recent poll show that 40 something percent of republicans want to give the president the power to censor the media. that is a terrible idea. >> laura: stay on point. i know, anytime we criticize the democrats, stay on one point. >> i have to criticize the republicans. absolutely. >> laura: we are focused on one issue, because we've a limited amount of time. elizabeth, i want to give you -- >> centrism is important. >> laura: the center goes one way.

everyone thinks that this method is at the center's word is at. no, politics is motivated by passion and a sense of right and wrong and passion on the left is going in right direction, passion on the right is going to conservative populism at the reaction to conservative populism is democratic socialis socialism. elizabeth, we got a minute left. what, in your mind, is the future of the party as far as a person? who is your ideal candidate right now? >> it is somebody like sanders, someone following in that vein, someone can tell mike who can see it as a valid power. that is the issue. we have people who are producing this country's wealth. those of the workers. they are not the owners. they are the people who are doing the work -- >> laura: do you think owners want people to get richer's, companies? >> owners want to get richer. they do not want the people who are making a stop to get richer because that means they get less rich. so they are screwing the people at the very bottom and those are the people -- >> laura: how many economics classes that you take, i'm just curious? >> i did.

those are the people who need to assert control over the country's wealth because they are making the production. >> laura: i want more workers, that is for sure, but i want workers to live in freedom, freedom to speak out, what you usually don't have an a socialist society. elizabeth, thank you. the deputy chair of the dnc facing domestic abuse allegations. more next. at bayer, our roots run deep. so chances are, you've seen us around the house. or... around the yard. on the shelf... or even... out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us...

and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we've been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer... thank you for trusting in us. then... and now. chicken! that's right, chicken?! candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch-- bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken!

♪ >> laura: the democrats love to talk about a stormy daniels or anyone is associated with an accusation against president trump. but what about deputy dnc chair keith ellison, who is defending himself against accusations that he physically and emotionally abused an ex-girlfriend? it is in essence until proven guilty? okay. the dnc was shamed into commenting on the matter today, telling npr these allegations recently came to light and we are reviewing them. all obligations of domestic abuse are disturbing and should be taken seriously. ellison just moments ago won's democratic primary in an attempt to become the minnesota attorney general. joining me now for reaction, monica crowley, senior fellow at the london center for policy research and leo to welcome civil rights attorney. all right, monica, let's start with you. the me too movement has been a pretty powerful thing. the democrats have been pretty powerful in aligning themselves after the harvey thing kind of

went through its cycle with the women who claim to be subject to abuse. this took a little while for the dnc to issue a very fairly bland statement about it. >> it is incredible, laura, that we are in the midst of this very potent cultural moment and yet it took the dnc days to weigh in on it. so i wonder now if we've reached somewhat of a tipping point in the me too movement or at least in this particular case of keith ellison. look, there me too movement has claimed a lot of very powerful scalps on both sides of the aisle. you look back and you wonder, well, al franken went down in flames. john conyers branched down in flames. and a lot of people again on both sides of the aisle have essentially been destroyed by past actions and accusations and so on. so what is different in the keith ellison case?

well, could it be that the dnc and the democrats have chosen to protect keith ellison, trying to promote him, because he checks two boxes? he is african-american and he is a muslim. so he's got two minority aspects weighing in his favor, at least in this era of hyper identity politics. >> laura: and monica -- i think he had his gubernatorial and perhaps presidential aspirations down the road. that is not a bad supposition on all of this. leo, the media, cnn and particular, covered the rob porter -- like, no one know who rob porter was, but he was a saffron secretary to drum, so here was a guy who manages a paper flow into the president. an important position. his girlfriend accused him of all the stuff, dating hope hicks, but the media covered at 40 times as much in the forest two days of that scandal then they are mentioning the keith ellison, who is the

head of the dnc. what gives? i mean, if you are going to cover them, cover both the same amount of time. we do not degrade? >> i would agree with that, laura. i just wonder say hi. >> laura: 24 times as much. not 40. >> laura, the story about ellison broke just over the weekend. the victim has basically said she's not going to release this alleged tape. now monica, i don't know why she wanted to go to the race card, but she's talking about keith ellison, the democratic party, not addressing this. my goodness, it's only been 72 hours. there's been no mention of a guy, you and laura know, call roy moore. my point is very simple. rush to judgment over a 72 hour story in which a woman who will not give a tape, are we giving this and hate same amount of time, laura, as the republicans gave roy moore, and the information regarding the hope hicks tape? all that -- >> laura: i'm trying to make a point about the media -- i'll

explain this again. slowly for -- maybe i'm not being clear tonight. the media are aligned against the president. okay? i'm trying to now illustrate one way they are doing that. they are serious about the me too movement, most avidly come on a political level. i'm not talking about entertainment, just a political level, when it adversely affects this president. when it adversely affects the head of their party, it takes 72 hours -- that's a lot of time. and just today, they released this three line statement and there are two woman, i believe, who have come out. i say, everybody is innocent. i think men and women who are accused are condemned to before we know anything half the time and i'm not minimizing any allegations, but i think everybody needs to take a breath on some of this. and i have said that repeatedly. i defended al franken, by the way. i'm one of the few republicans who defended al franken. so. >> al franken got kicked out and

let's not also forget john conyers, laura, it's only been 72 hours, no evidence coming up, and you are a lawyer. you know as well as i do, let's see some evidence. there has been no evidence. but monica didn't mention roy moore. monica didn't mention representative john conyers got kicked out, along with al franken. >> i did. >> laura: people knew about him for years, though. i've been hearing about him -- i mean combat, to me, was a diva news. monica, there is -- it's fun to look back on some of these montages. i think all allegations should be taken seriously but people shouldn't be condemned before actual facts come out, which i think everybody rushes to judgment. >> you and i have talked about this repeatedly, laura, there is no due process. sell in the me too movement break your point is a critical e political sphere, if we will apply a standard, it should be applied equally across the board, and you just don't see that happening.

part of that is a function of the media, which is so hard hyper anti-trump hyper anti-conservative, hyper anti-conservative that you're not getting the same kind of treatment. i just think with the ellison case, because he has been long been considered a superstar, that checks a number of identity politics boxes for the democrats, that he is somebody who they really have to protect. they have to protect -- >> what box -- why do you guys protect roy moore? >> laura: i think roy moore -- i was not a defender of his at all. don't play that at my feet. >> we are talking about some credible allegations that have come against a superstar of the democratic party -- >> what are the allegations? laura, asked monica one question. give me some facts. >> laura: if there is an abuse allegation, there was an abuse allegation against rob porter's

abuse allegation, against al franken -- everybody is making abuse allegations. i understand that. our point is that the media have revealed themselves to be one-sided or at least in their average coverage, there over the coverage of these cases, when ty are political, they are most focused on anyone connected to drum a republican. i'm sorry, that is just a fact and it's been that way for some time. monica and leo, thank you so much for being with us. up next, a "the ingraham angle" exclusive with omarosa as confidant and the trump administration. lynne patton is here when we come back.

♪ >> laura: fired trump eight omarosa released yet another audio recording she secretly recorded. this time, featuring trump campaign staffers lynne patton and katrina pierson, discussing a rumor that president trump was caught on tape using the n-word.

>> i've said, well, first, can you think of any time that this might have happened? he said, no.. >> that's not true. not the way you just said, omarosa, it depends on what scenario you are talking about,t you just go ahead and put it to bed? i said -- he's a menace. >> laura: president trump vehemently denies that he's ever been caught on tape using a racial slur. joining me enough her reaction was one of the people you've heard on that recording, lynne patton. currently a senior advisor to housing and urban development. secretary ben carson there. great to see you, lynne. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> great to be here, laura. thank you. >> laura: tell us about that conversation that took place, the recording we just heard, part of a recording from october of 2016. omarosa, you come and katrina pierson. >> first i want to start off by

saying, thank you so much for re-tweeting my statement last night, you know, it's been getting picked apart today, and that is really why i am here. it's because, there is something seriously wrong with society when a woman can run around the white house and surreptitiously record people come possibly in violation of her own national security contract, but yet, katrina and i are the one who have to come on national television and explain ourselves. you know, i've made it very clear, and i stand by my statement, that i released last night, that the audiotapes that she has released, first of all, conflate two different conversations. one is with me, omarosa, and katrina. the other is also with me, omarosa, katrina, and jason. but the distinction is modeled. what you are hearing, really, in my opinion, is not only verification of the president said very early on and very

sternly and immediately that he did not use this derogatory term, but the more i hear this recording, what you are also hearing it as woman, omarosa, who outright interrupts me during this interview and says, "he said. that's a lie." and you know, why would she go work for him if that was the case? >> laura: was she interrupting you, you think i'm at that point in the recording? she knew she was recording it, and she wanted her own little insurance policy. she wanted to get it on the record that, oh, no, he said it, and -- >> you raise a good point because even my boyfriend this morning has said to me that the reason why omarosa kept bringing this elusive and were tape up is because she used it as an opportunity to surreptitiously record me, obviously, katrina, possibly other people, and this was something -- you know, omarosa

has been obsessed with the n-word since 2004 when on oprah winfrey she accused one of the "apprentice" of the contestants of calling her the n-word. >> laura: you are a friend of hers, lynne. you are a well-respected person within the administration. i've heard that from a lot of different people. you are very well respected. so you said last night that you never participated in a conference call with omarosa and katrina and yet, then we hear a recording of you in a conference call with omarosa. i read that and -- i was a little confused. how did you forget that? >> i want to clarify, laura. what i said expressly is that we refuted what omarosa had told chuck todd and savannah guthrie, which was that we participated in a conference call that confirmed frank luntz had heard donald trump say the n-word. that never happened to. >> laura: .

so you did participate in calls, just not a call -- >> we never denied, had multiple calls about the elusive n-word tape or offensive tape, because omarosa again was obsessed with this imaginary and quite frankly fictitious figment of her imagination, which i now know to believe. she was tracking down something that she created. >> laura: lynne, what kind of person as she? you were friends with her, right? >> yeah, obviously, she has known the president for 15 years, she was extremely loyal to him up until the day she wasn't. you know, the president obviously is extremely loyal to people who are loyal to him. he gave her multiple, multiple chances, and what is really sad here, laura, is that the president gave her an opportunity to really help the african-american community and instead, she did the exact opposite by blocking reputable

republicans, black republicans, and influential members of the community to advance her own standing to the detriment of this white house. >> laura: this is what she said today with katie turk, responding to the the presidens basically think that it's good that john kelly fired her like a dog. let's watch. >> the president called to a dog this morning. what is your reaction? >> i think that it shows you, if he would say that publicly, what else would he say about me privately? he is absolutely no respect for women, for african-americans, as evidenced by him instructing the chief of staff to lock me for two hours in the situation room to harass me, to threaten me, and say that things could get very ugly for me and that they would be damaged by reputation. he is unfit to be in this office and to serve as the president. >> laura: your reaction, lynne? >> as i was saying earlier, the president has called a lot of people dogs. he's called mark a cubit and a dog brady is called robert patterson a dog. he's called film are a dog.

he's called mitt romney a dog. i mean, to me, that is not something that is either racial or, you know, specific to omarosa. what he is doing is fighting back against somebody who has wronged him and he has every right to do that by any means necessary. you know, omarosa is and what i consider a purgatory. neither the right nor the left wants to claim her. >> laura: the left is taking her now, though. the left is -- real quick, do you know why she was fired? really, why she was fired? >> i'm reading, just like everybody else, that has to do with obviously grave violations of -- >> laura: ratio riding around on a vehicle, a government vehicle? >> i can actually verify that one time she asked me if i -- i was with her at the right house -- she said that she had to go meet somebody at this restaurant on seventh street, and we both lived across the street from each other on pennsylvania avenue, and we went

v.a. white house car service to this restaurant, as soon as we walked in, she said, "lynne, don't turn around, but has the suv left yet? "and he was still sitting there, and she said, they are onto me, they are waiting to see if i come out of this restaurant. because it was really only two blocks away from her apartment. and it occurred to me what she was doing. here i am, standing in the foyer of this restaurant with omarosa, trying to hide, and i said -- the hostess is looking at us, and i am mortified, because i thought we were actually meeting somebody there. we want to use government vehicles for personal -- >> it is her ammo. >> laura: lynne, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> just want to say one more thing. the american people are sick of hearing about omarosa. you said they are sick of hearing about stormy daniels and they are sick of hearing about collusion. it's time we focus on the things that they really need, trump's, economy, health care, and infrastructure. and that is what my bosses doing

praise be when you wouldn't work for a racist president and neither would any of the people -- >> you couldn't pay me. there's not enough money in the world. >> laura: bingo. lynne, thanks so much. up next, a tip to you on how to get the full story from the media on immigration stories. to stay with us for that. ntial f once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? (vo) and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? (vo) a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. oh! no increased risk? ♪ ozempic®! ♪ ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes

or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not share needles or pens. don't reuse needles. do not take ozempic® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to ozempic®. stop taking ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, itching, rash, or trouble breathing. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. tell your doctor if you have diabetic retinopathy or vision changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase the risk for low blood sugar. common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, and constipation. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. i discovered the potential with ozempic®. ♪ oh! oh! oh! ozempic®! ♪ (vo) ask your healthcare provider if ozempic® is right for you.

>> laura: a little tip for our viewers. read past the headlines, especially as it relates to immigration sob stories. i departed had missing his first -- i.c.e. have the father in court while he was dealing with a felony abuse allegation. some groups like the nonprofit legal aid want rules that prevent i.c.e. from arresting suspects in state court. joining me now, tom homan, and immigration attorney alan orr.

tim, let's go to you. you know a little bit about this. i.c.e. are now going to court houses in order to nab some of these illegal immigrants. the argument is, people aren't going to report crimes because they might be illegal immigrants and they are going to these courthouses and then they are going to be nab, too. is that happening? >> it's a great policy. i signed it. it's my policy. it i.c.e.'s policy not to arrest the victims and witnesses of crimes, and no one me one example that we have arrested a victim or witness of a crime in court. the guidance is clear. >> laura: allen? >> that is not what we are seeing. we are getting the low-hanging fruit in a courtroom and what it's doing is keeping people from doing lawful things. the immigrants that are here, and the judicial process, who deserve due process, as you said before in your former segment, are getting stopped and detained in court before they have their day in court. they may have been charged but they haven't fully been found guilty of these crimes and how

they are facing deportation when most of them are married to u.s. citizens. >> laura: are they illegal in the country? >> they are undocumented. >> laura: they are not entitled to be in the united states under u.s. law. they are deportable aliens. >> they are not the ms-13 that we should be focusing on and they are part of the low-hanging fruit. when we have the vast majority of people here that are documented, they are the people that we don't want to be departed. >> first of all, the policy is clear, we don't go to family court, traffic court, we are talking about criminal court. they've had due process in federal court but they ignore that order and they are hiding from the government. this is exactly where we need to arrest criminals, jails and courthouses, because they are behind the wire, they don't have weapons, we know it. judges protect themselves, senators protect themselves by security, why should i.c.e. have that same protection from criminals? criminals and criminals courthouses prayed >> laura: when i started reading his articles, i got sad. i said, is missing is like an american citizen, first kid's birthday, then you read down and it says, it has some recent domestic disturbances at the

house, or turmoil. it sounds like the guy bashed his wife in the face. a lot of spouses are battered who want to stay -- i get that. but he is both illegally in the country, he is a wife abuser, and you are pleading this case, allen? you think he should stay? >> his wife wanted him to stay. >> laura: i don't care what she wants. she's an illegal immigrant. >> it's in overall resources argument. >> laura: what cases aren't we pursuing today, are you aware of? which ones? >> people with actual -- >> laura: felony assault, he pled down to misdemeanor assaul assault, smashing his wife in the face -- >> he was going to court to have an adjudication of that lower pleading. >> we are talking about criminal court, he got arrested for a crime. this policy, it wasn't in a vacuum it was created. we worked with a conference of chief justices around the country. the chief justice in california agreed this is a good policy.

we are talking about bad guys. this is exactly where we should rest them. >> laura: all right, guys. out of time. we could do an allergist on this topic. very important to both sides. the left, is again suggesting that the president is racist. up next, a tv icon on what he thinks. don't miss it. this wi-fi is fast.

i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's.

♪ >> laura: president trump street calling has highly disloyal fired eight omarosa a "dog" has got to the left once again calling him a racist and a misogynist. you would think they would try to come up with a new line of attack by now but perhaps none went so far as democratic congresswoman, the ever cowboy hatted, frederica wilson. >> the president of the united states is calling a woman of color a dog. how dare he. how dare he call anyone a dog. we have to stop him. we've got to send a blue wave through this country and the midterms. and then we got to send a blue wave in november and we'll shut down all of this racism. >> laura: joining me now with perhaps a different take as comedic legend jimmie j.j. walker. >> [laughs] >> laura: jimmie, thanks for

being here. frederica wilson is one of my favorites. >> i love her. >> laura: i think -- it seems that you have a much different take on the president and his state of mind than the rest of your peers and comedy. explain why. >> i think that we are at a point now that we need to get on board with america. and donald trump, as much as people may not like him on certain concrete levels, he is our president. and does he say everything correct? no. but as everybody correct on everything? now. we need to become americans and root for america, and unite america, and i always say this, we are not the divided states of america. we are the united states of america. and donald trump is a guy that is not a politician. he's an action guy. >> laura: did you hear, jimmie, did you hear about spike lee said the other day? he was asked about whether he

thought trump was the president, consider him president, and he said, i don't refer to him by name. i refer to him as only agent orange. >> that was spike's joke. the trump administration has expressed an opening in the last years. another trump administration, there are more women of color on major magazines, whether they be "volga," "elle," america, get on board, and start defending americans. donald trump is one of those guys that it is an american patriot. america, as they used to say on "saturday night live" for donald trump, has been very, very good to him, so he is not a guy that is trying to desecrate anything in america. the majority of the country, even though he lost by 3 million votes, the majority of the country is for trump. they are for the flag. i, myself, will always stand up

for the flight, and i will always stand up for donald trump. donald trump was a guy that i would love to have dinner with, but on the other side, i would love to have dinner with maxine waters, too. i am not leaving anyone out. this is what it seems that we are so fractured, so concrete against america. we have the best country in the world. >> laura: there is no better place to live, there is no better time to be an american, i think, and many decades, economically, then it is now. so why is it -- hold on, jimmie -- why is it that the entire, with the exception of a few people, yourself included, why is the entire world of comedy now so politicized that -- i think, like, stephen colbert would literally wither up and melt into himself if there was a night when he couldn't discuss trump. there is no other comedy other than trump but most of that comedy is fairly tedious and grim ideal.

>> there is not one pro trump joke out there besides mind, of course, thank you. i think there is not one pro trump joke out there, and that is unfortunate. i think we are at a point now that what people are doing as they are putting down -- i will go to the immigration policy. even though taking kids at that the arms or parents not the best thing to do, if you look at what happened to the immigration policy, people were on line to get into america. there were lines of miles and miles -- there was no one on the other side trying to get out of america. people want in because they know the opportunity is here, they know the discussions are here, they note -- >> laura: for the left is in business of keeping us angry, ad that is the entire entertainment industry, again, most of the people who like trump have gone underground, you are one of the view. it's either people who are -- you know, big in the '70s come

'80s, already established, already made us, they don't care about offending jimmy kimmel or steven spielberg or any of the other big league people. they don't care. but most people in hollywood will not say anything even objectively positive about even the economy because that would tacitly be giving support to trump. close it out. >> i think trump is the guy for our times. then he is the best guy for right now. we will see that as we go along. we will look at the economic policy, we will look at the policy in terms of our military, we will look at -- even for minorities, like i said. most american minority women are on magazines now, -- >> laura: magazines, to me, -- the economy matters. jobs matter. opportunities matter. i think -- >> they are opportunities, too. >> laura: i think that has been happening for some time but i think the opportunities for all people of all colors, i

don't think you have been higher since the reagan boom then they are right now. j.j., it is so great to talk to you. i want to have you back to talk about hollywood and fatherhood at some point because i want to talk about what happened in "good times" in the '70s and how their portrayal of fatherhood has changed throughout the decades and the industry. it is so great to talk to you tonight. thank you so much. >> i will talk to any time. all you have to do is as they say, "call me." >> laura: jimmy, thank you so much. tonight's primary night across four states, any surprises? stay right there to find out.

at bayer, our roots run deep. so chances are, you've seen us around the house. or... around the yard. on the shelf... or even... out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us... and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we've been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer... thank you for trusting in us. then... and now.

speed to the start of "the angle" had a the perils of socialism and tonight two darlings of the socialist ally for the big winners. in vermont, bernie sanders be back his democratic challenger but he will renounce the win and run as an independent. okay. called red, socialist. as we noted earlier, in

minnesota, keith ellison fought off domestic abuse allegations to win a chance to fight for the state attorney general seat. interesting direction for that party. we'll see where they all end up. that is it for us tonight. ed henry is in for shannon bream. watch me tomorrow night and on the radio tomorrow morning. ed, take it away. >> ed: we'll be there. we begin with a fox news alert. breaking tonight, katrina pierson is back here with us live for a second crack at denying the explosive allegations by omarosa manigault newman. last night, she was here and sharply and unequivocally denied that she ever said during any campaign conference call that candidate donald trump had used this be 23. so imagine my surprise when i woke up this morning to find out omarosa had given cbs news an audio tape showing that she had in fact said at least one called a future president used the n-word and they needed to figure out a way to spend it. so did pierson tell the truth last night? wheel pr