youngest child leaving for college with this hashtag, empty nest status. they said it's always been all about the kids, now it's all about us. >> we will enjoy you down like we miss you. >> harris: president trump speaking out on the paul manafort trial is jury deliberations continued for a second straight day. the verdict could come any time now. the president calling the trial "very sad." this is outnumbered, my melissa francis in here today is harris faulkner, rachel campos duffy, democratic strategist and fox news contributor jessica tarlov. in joining us on the couch, former deputy campaign manager for trump, fox news contributor and the president of citizens united, david bossi. and he is outnumbered. are you ready my friend? >> david: always.

>> melissa: we are awaiting a verdict in the paul manafort trial has the jury deliberates for a second day. as you know, paul manafort could spend the rest of his life in prison but his defense team and said, we are still in the game. after learning the jury submitted for written questions to the judge yesterday, including a request for clarity on the definition of reasonable doubt. now president trump is speaking out earlier today. >> president trump: i think the paul manafort trial is very sad, it's a very sad day for our country. he worked for me for a very short period of time but, you know, he happens to be a very good person and i think it's very sad what they have done to paul manafort. >> melissa: peter doocy is live outside the courthouse with the latest. >> reporter: melissa, a source close to the speak 17 defense

team told me that i was the defense is understanding that the mueller team had some sort of exhibit ready to go during their closing argument that would have listed all the evidence and then link it up to all the corresponding charges, but for some reason, it was never introduced. and that is key because late yesterday, the jury asked the judge if he could help them organize the mountains of evidence so they know what exhibit links up to what charge and the judge said no. the jury has been deliberating for more than two hours today and that something the manna manafort team believes help them a lot. >> do you consider this a good sign for the defense? >> it's a great sign for the defense. >> reporter: the judge, ts ellis, told the courtroom today he is optimistic that there will be some kind of verdict soon but he did tell the jury that they could deliberate for as little or as long as i wanted.

late yesterday in addition to asking for an index of the evidence, the jury asked the judge if they could help define a reasonable doubt. the judge did not provide answers to questions the jury had about terminology that is critical to the mueller aside argument. the judge also told the jury they need to rely on their memory to recall those, and something else the judge's going to do two hours from right now is, they will hear hear arguments on motions are intervened by at a handful of news organizations that were trying to get transcripts of certain hours long portions of these proceedings that have happened in a closed courtroom. >> melissa: peter doocy, thank you. david, what do you know of paul manafort from your time? >> david: nothing, we actually didn't cross paths at all on

this campaign. and let's be very clear, this trial has nothing to do with donald trump or president trump president trump's presidential campaign. these are 10-year-old tax fraud and tax evasion charges and whether he's found guilty or not guilty, or if it's a hung jury come up that's a bad, bad thing for the mueller probe. >> melissa: unless this made paul manafort vulnerable to letting russians into the campaign because he had met them or he needed money. >> david: there has been no evidence whatsoever that any russians were involved in the campaign or that there was any collusion. the trump campaign was not even brought up during this trial. >> melissa: it wasn't allowed to be. go ahead. >> that's totally correct, and we will see what happens here. as it stands, of course, this has nothing to do with this.

paul manafort has been a bad actor for many decades and i'm sure president trumpet regrets, even though he's a very good person, regrets bringing him on for the brokered convention because it has opened up the door to this man's connections to that world, working in that in the past and on the surveillance list for a while now. >> melissa: let's talk about some of the new things we learned because we've covered this territory before. it was interesting to hear the jurors asked specifics about wanting to new information. in his mind, reasonable doubt is, i'm 90% certain that he is guilty of this. but it really matters how he answered it, right? >> but i'm also married to a prosecutor. we really don't know what's going to happen. i would say this, the president just said it, sad.

i've never even seen him in my life. but i tell you what i do think it's sad, the way he and his potential crimes are being treated. next to, islamic radical terrorists in a compound in new mexico who killed a 3-year-old who are being treated versus manafort has been in solitary confinement for i don't know how long. if these are the priorities in our country, i look at the crimes he may have committed and they look like irs crimes. why are they not being handled by the irs? why are they being handled by a special prosecution? this is a witch hunt and has nothing to do with the president, that makes me mad. >> melissa: there is another trial coming up and it's interesting that you say that

because, why not pass off of this particular one the way others have been? the next trial with paul manafort is not in new york, it's in washington, d.c., and has to do with his connection and the former russian president or ukrainian president. so that i would understand why this team might want to handle it. we may see, and we don't know, we may see the judge in that case make moratorium to what can and cannot be discussed >> the facts and the charges have nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with donald trump. that's why, -- paul manafort has to know something in order to be susceptible to something. >> that's a compromise to the point that he could be

strong-armed or bribed for the next trial, but again it doesn't have anything to do with the president. and it begs the question of why b12's team didn't pass things along. >> this was a bad hire for a lot of reasons but it doesn't have anything to do with collusion. in my opinion if they were really interested in finding russian connections, why are they investigating -- >> david: that was hillary clinton. >> it's amazing, to make these comparisons and the defensive positions you have entered too, this is not about bringing down donald trump, this is about someone who has allegedly broken u.s. laws repeatedly and for decades. and who harris said is a bad actor and people who are working with enemies of the u.s. and russia and in the ukraine. >> and he may not have divulged that. >> your posture is so aggressive

for something, we are just talking about a guy, -- >> what i'm talking about is the mainstream media as it lies every single day, but this is the russia probe and andy they continue to perpetrate against the president. >> but you are not, i don't think you are being reasonable here. >> david: know i'm -- >> what david is saying, he's talking about the perception of the media, the mueller trial is about the president's connections to russia. >> and justice and financial crime. >> all i hear you and david saying is, there are certain members of the media who treated like stew, and actually it's an ensemble on a plate and you can pick and choose. which is again, getting back to the question about the mueller team. why not pass this onto an irs based investigation or a federal

prosecutor? >> >> david: because the mueller folks are invested in this trial. they are trying to undo the election and are still doing it. but let me go back to this point. mueller is treating manafort, he has been in solitary confinement for months. >> the new mexico case, where you have these five potential terrorists with a 3-year-old that was found dead there, training 11 other children to be school shooters. and that's a time when we are setting our kids back to school, it's outrageous. this is a problem with their bail system, and our federal courts. >> but we can have that conversation, if you want to talk about what's going on -- >> it is in the news today.

>> it is contemporaneous to the conversation today. also, have contemporaneous happening alongside is the president. looking at westhampton new york, a beautiful place. so we are watching this, a growing showdown ahead of next month's confirmation hearing for supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh which might come up as a conversation. the president's meeting with supporters and westhampton new york and those will be closed-door sessions as he talks about victory and accomplishments, and one of those accomplishments no doubt is that his supreme court nominee picked get confirmed. now chuck schumer says democrats are ready to sue the national archives over this. if they cannot get documents from cavanaugh's time with president gw bush presidency, i should say, watch. >> their republicans have been deliberately withholding the entire record of judge kavanaug

kavanaugh's history and a job that he himself said was informative and constructive as preparation for being a judge, those are his words. meanwhile, the small percentage of documents the judiciary committee will get to see are being prescreened by a republican operative. if this seems shady, it's because it is. >> melissa: senate democrats also demanding clarity on whether the president can be indicted. and the mueller investigation in front of it. they want those documents released publicly. republicans say, cavanaugh has already produced a record number of documents. at senate majority whip john cornyn says of the summit than a democrats, "i think they are feeling under a lot of pressure. i get it, they know they can't stop the conversation but they

put on a good show and that's what i think is going on here. i make this comment sometimes, but i also mean it. so you want all of this documentation -- hold on, let's reference the screen, because the president is in the center of the screen right now about to get into his motorcade. westhampton, new york, great place for summer and a great place for the president to jet off to, which he has done, and talk about accomplishments. he's talked about a little bit outside of the white house as he was boarding marine one to go to the westhampton area. but he really wants to focus on the economy and some other accomplishments today as he takes a victory lap of sorts as it's being called. as he does that and we get to see public moments like this, because much of it is off-camera. but we will show you what we can

as the president is there greeted by people along the reception line. david, what i was going to say, previous to this is, -- and we are still on this live picture. can you hear the cheering in the background? >> and i have been blessed, and

this is exactly who the president is right here and he loves being with the people come to the men and women in uniform and the american people out and about. they just love him and he loves them and you can see it in these photos. >> melissa: at secret service is probably having a heart attack. >> i hear the producer in my ear, and he's getting in the motorcade, and i look up. the president of the united states is pausing to take pictures and headed to a couple of events today where we will meet supporters, and talk about his accomplishments. it's interesting to have you alongside for this for the extension of one victory lap in the campaign, the segway to midterm elections to perhaps stave off a blue wave, and on and onward to 2,020. >> david: the president needs to be doing more of this, being out across the country and talking to the american people leading up to the midterms. he is going to have an incredible campaign schedule coming in september and october.

>> david: iran has scheduled during the campaign and i built the six events per day, every day. two or three time zones a day every day. he's a machine, this guy never stops working, he is the hardest working person i've ever been around in my entire life. >> melissa: before we paused and paused again, this was quite a reception. technically this is the president coming home. it's not like it was a long trip. >> david: he looked up from the car as he was about to get in and he saw the throngs, thousands of people that were standing there across tarmac. you could tell -- the secret service agents were all like, what are you doing? but this is what he loves to do. he wants to thank them for spending the time in this hot

day in the sun, and he does this out of respect for these people. >> melissa: rachel i know you have been on the campaign trail with your multi-term husband, and it is kind of the survey of the moment. it's unscripted, and it's something people that love authenticity. but with this particular president it also comes with a microphone. we heard some members of the media complaining, we don't have access. oh, my goodness gracious, you get a lot of access. he was talking on and on, took some questions, got too close to the helicopter at one point and he said, i can't hear you. >> david: yesterday he had reporters in the room. >> it's impromptu when he was out there, and, -- if you invite

the entire press corps in there and you stand up there and you take it, it's a little bit more interesting because i've never seen a president speak honestly without talking points about what's on his mind more than top donald trump. >> he will tell you what he thinks about everything, the little and the big. >> looking at this live picture, it's difficult to say because he is surrounded by so many people. but look at them first, is he holding that little one? he's right there in the thick of all of the things. so right before we went to this for a second time because we want to take in these live images now. it's a friday afternoon, beautiful day on long island and the president is hanging out with thousands of people.

along with those events where people have paid to have food with him, he's doing it in the 90 degrees sun. so brett kavanaugh, his supreme court pick. one of the things that he would like to put on that list of the compliments before the midterm, does he get it? >> 100%. crying chuck schumer is only about stalling this. so many of them have said they are against cavanaugh, but they say they need this information so they can make a decision. while they've already made the decision, that's the problem at this point. the senate majority leader mcconnell needs to push this forward and get it moving in late september or october. >> and the motorcade is about to push forward. fox news obtaining some emails and handwritten notes from

controversial doj official bruce ohr. what the records reveal about his relationship with the main players behind that unverified anti-trump dossier. plus, fallout over president trump pulling cia director john brennan's security clearance. did the president make the right call? we will debate that, stay close. [cheers] 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. new ensure max protein. in two great flavors. next

>> melissa: president trump also security clearance of former cia director john brennan. now officials are releasing a statement supporting brennan and condemning the president's decision calling the move inappropriate, deeply regrettable and an attempt to stifle free speech. president trump's firing back at that criticism and slamming brennan's latest accusation that the trump campaign colluded with russia. >> president trump: is no silence, if anything, i'm giving them a bigger voice. many people didn't know who he is and now he has a bigger voice. that's okay with me. i've never had a lot of respect, and senator burns said it best, if you knew anything, why didn't you report it when you were before all of these committees including their committee? he had a chance to reported an end he never did. >> at the very least he is a

proven liar to congress. he lied about searching computers and then later apologized to that and admitted it. he lied about drone strikes saying they killed zero civilians as opposed to what he told president obama himself more recently. he said he had no idea who paid for the dossier and if that's true, that's pretty scary or he's lying. >> david: he voted for a communist. >> when he was 18 years old. >> what do you think? >> i think there are two issues at play in the intelligence community has handled that properly. it's not a right for life to have security clearance, as someone who has served under democrat and republican presidents. he was not an obama import appointee but that's us separate issue. sarah sanders came out the day by the way after omarosa got really big, and it wasn't politically motivated. then the president talked to the

wall street journal and said that it was. he said he was leading the russia witch hunt and it comes back to that issue which was obviously near and dear to his heart. when you hear from the intelligence community like david pretorius princeton saying this is a deeply regrettable action taken by this president >> i mean, he said, i'm not here to defend john brennan, i'm here to defend the intelligence community. >> this is the deep state, this is the permanent class -- >> that's not real. >> yes, it is. this is a perfect example of the deep state. the 12 former leaders of the cia want to make sure that they take care of one of their own.

>> i will just add it, i find it interesting that this is a first time the president has ever stripped a cia director of his clearance. while this is the first time we've ever had a president spying on the campaign. >> this is the first time we've ever seen former cia director go on national tv trying to actively undermine a sitting president. >> he's the leader of the resistance movement. >> i did not know that. >> lets let harris talk. >> i was going to make this simple point. you can throw around more hyperbole or incendiary terms about the matter is, we seen a cia director get political and there is a problem with that. and that should be a problem for both sides of the political aisle. it's one of those things that is happening, and i truly -- i

checked myself yesterday because i wanted to see, how do you reinstate, what's the review process? if you are needed, they can bring you back. they can put in a place for security clearance. >> i'm sure you well, rand paul is really high on that bandwagon. but it's not like -- >> he's getting paid. we can't double check what he is saying and where that full comic flow stream is coming from. >> melissa: some trump supporters are saying it might be a bad thing if the democrats take the house and go on to impeach the president. we will tell you how they think that move could actually help them win in 2,020. plus, bombshell revelations on justice department official bruce ohr. this is a huge story. just how closely he was tied to that controversial anti-trump dossier. so, i'm doing all i can to stay in his life.

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>> president trump: i think he is a disgrace with his wife,

nellie, for him to be in the justice department and be doing what he did, that's a disgrace, that's disqualifying for a mueller. >> president trump reacting to revelations about bruce ohr, a former justice department official and his wife, nelly. emails and notes show that he had a deep connection with christopher steele, the author of that unverified and controversial dossier on the president. they revealed that he contacted at christopher steele numerous times. catherine herridge is with us live from washington. >> reporter: thanks jessica. the emails, text messages and personal notes obtained showed bruce ohr's deep connection to the british spy on the opposition research firm fusion gps that compiled the trump dossier. during closed-door testimony, glenn simpson claimed no contact with bruce ohr until after the

2016 election. but ohr's work emails conflict with simpson's testimony showing multiple contacts months earlie earlier. ohr's wife nellie worked for fusion gps for the trump dossier project. based on former british spy christopher steele's research. after the fbi dropped steele as a source, the house committee found that steele maintained contact using ohr as a back channel. in december 2016, 1 month after the election, ohr's notes indicated a connection. in the portfolio, doj did not include russia but a leading house republican said he was a key player in the intermediary. bruce ohr's wife worked for the firm that gave them the dossier. it was never supposed to work that way in the united states of america, but in fact it did.

>> and a tweet last night, once again the president highlighted bruce and nellie ohr's relationship with fusion gps and peter strzok confirmed the fbi got records from ohr, attacking the russia probe with quote zero credibility." documents said interesting details on steele's activities before and after election. he wrote that he wasn't very concerned about the firing. >> okay. that was a doozy of a report. >> but they were going back and forth about james comey. and they were worried about being exposed. to me, the biggest nugget, and this is the biggest story in a long time, is the idea that

steele was out shopping the dossier around, and at the same time he was asking ohr and the fbi for help with his russian oligarch friends who were upset about the sanctions. so this is that exchange that the trump team is being accused of, and here it is in black-and-white. >> >> david: on the clinton sid, this is the fruit of the poisonous tree that the trump team is talking about. this entire case is based on opposition research paid for by the dnc, paid for the by the clinton campaign. >> that is not true. >> david: it is true, it's known to be true. >> a, i absolutely know i'm not lying about this. it started with george papadopoulos with a conversation with a russian diplomat. that's how the russian witch hunt started. >> why are you laughing? >> that's a fact. >> jessica, do you not find it

odd that there is all these lies that he said he didn't speak with him? what does that tell you? >> jessica: it tells me we certainly need to know what went on between bruce ohr and christopher steele. >> let me ask you this. why doesn't the president just declassify all of this? >> david: he needs to declassify everything. let's get all of the three oh twos out there. >> i will tell you why he doesn't do it, i think he has a sense of what's at the end of the tunnel and the longer it drags out, then it hits with that boom, it's like kind of a bombshell where you are sitting here and you are hearing about these people within the fbi, you know, back channeling. and according to their own emails when they been told not to have any contact with christopher steele any longer because he's not reputable, and they continue that channel going and lie about it, and then you find out that that side -- it

will be closer to another election. >> i also think that part of it is because the president may be can forecasts that are telegraphed that. but maybe he can't. if it shows that there is vindication for him at the end, when he doesn't have anybody to question whether or not it was legitimate, whether he got too involved in it or whether he was trying to steer it. which is why you will hear his supporters say, don't tweet about this. let it bake on its own. i know you see it differently because you know the man so well. >> david: you are exactly right. but what nellie ohr did at fusion gps, how she got to fusion gps, who recommended her? how did she get hired there? what were her conversations with her husband? who else did bruce ohr work without the doj to funnel this bad information -- >> we have to go, and not because i disagree with you. [laughs] new fallout over omarosa's secret latest recording. what the president and his

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ally. do it right. talking 4th quarter? yes. >> president trump president trump's daughter-in-law is now firing back after former white house aide omarosa releases her latest secret tape. it reportedly shows a laura trump offering omarosa a job on the 2020 campaign shortly after she was fired from the white house. omarosa claiming it was an attempt to silence her, but now laura trump is blasting the audiotape as a fraud and saying "woman to woman, i shared a connection with to her as a friend and campaign sister and i'm absolutely shocked and saddened by her to betrayal in violation on a deeply personal level. i hope it's all worth it for you, omarosa, because some things you just can't put a price on." in the meantime, omarosa was

struggling to answer when tmz host harvey levin asked why she continue to support the president if she believed he used a racial slur. watch this. >> i needed to know for myself if, in fact, he said that because that would completely shatter who i thought he was. and so this was all part of that journey and i think it's important that people hear from the beginning, from 2003 all the way until the moment general kelly locked me in the situation room and told me things could get ugly for me. they need to see what that journey was like. >> shortly after that, omarosa's p.r. rep appeared to cut off the interview. so the question i ask is, she's contradicting herself. do we think the tape exists? >> we would have heard it already. >> she might have over 200, she is slow rolling this because she needs a longer moment in the spotlight. >> she didn't make the recording so she would have to acquire it. do you think she has? >> i don't believe her, i don't

believe she's heard it and i don't think it exists. the president, i've known him for about eight years and he just -- it's not part of his vocabulary, it's not part of who he is as a person. he was celebrated as a new york real estate tycoon who helped people across the board. >> but if we are talking about omarosa, i don't think -- when she came out originally on his campaign, i don't think she moved the needle because people knew she only does things -- i don't think -- she never convince people that she wasn't a racist, there was never a proof of anything before. so at this point when she says things i don't like it moves the needle, either. >> melissa: i'm curious about this. in your introduction, racial, rachel, you said -- she was needing to see if he set a certain word so she could

discover whether or not he wasn't really who she thought he was. no one thinks at this point that she was the person that they thought that she was. i was curious because i saw savannah guthrie's interview with her and they played a previous sound bites from her and, she wasn't preparing. she wasn't ready for prime time or, what do i do with the person that everyone thought they knew. >> in order to pull this off, she has to admit who she is, which is just a fame seeker. she will sell out whoever is in her way to continue on that path. now the president is in her way right now so she will go down that route, but there could be someone else they are. it doesn't mean the veracity of her story is challenged, there could be a tape or there might not be but, were you surprised when her the access hollywood tape? there are things that happen --

how does she make more than 200 reporting with high-security? >> >> david: i think there needs to be a personal investigation by the house oversight committee on how she did this. was it on a personal phone, a white house device? was it secure? was it another device, something else she was recording with? could foreign actors have had access to those tapes? these are very important questions that she needs to answer under oath. taping general kelly in the situation room is unconscionable. so we know who she is. and -- >> what's interesting is, fewer people may have reached a conclusion yesterday but now that there are potentially more

of these recordings, it does bear asking all the questions. how did it happen over and over? >> she will have to answer those questions. but we have to move on everybody. could a democratic effort to impeach president trump be a good thing for him and the election bid? next, why some of his supporters think so and why they feel history is on his side. managing blood sugar is not a marathon. it's a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress.

>> several of president trump's supporters are more and more convinced that if democrats win back the house in the midterm at the push to impeach the president, that it could backfire on them. those trump allies say a republican held senate would never convict the president and surviving impeachment would all but ensure a 2,020 victory. they are pointing to history for proof. politico explains reporting "the idea gaining currency on the right is that trump could be bill clinton, not richard nixon. it depends on a delicate political calculation that our republican held senate would never follow a democratic house and vote to remove trump, and then voters, tired of the long-running russia scandal as they did in the 1990s, with the monica lewinsky scandal will want to move on." what do you think? >> i've never been a fan of the

impeach trump movement and that's mostly because mike pence is my worst nightmare. pentz actually believes the things that he says. i think it's a mistake, i think we right now have the enthusiasm edge. democrats were turning out in higher numbers and everyone is really fired up. if you give trump voters, that they are coming after me, which is part of why he wants to be on the trail six or seven days a week, and then now we are talking about impeachment and jerry nadler talked about it and crazy aunt maxine is out there because he says he's the face of our party, although you say it's bruce ohr or something. there's plenty to go after and wait on the impeachment front. >> but if they win, if the democrats take the house, mark my words, you will have a resolution to impeach this president. >> how many after that? >> 18. >> they will go after him.

i come from wisconsin where liberals tried to recall scott walker, and what you said was at the beginning of the segment is actually right. people don't like it. governor walker won by more votes in the recall than he data in the original election. people want trump to do his time. if i was donald trump, get your comp shop in perfect order and get out and tout the good news because there is so much -- this is like, and history book record-breaking. >> david: he needs to be running on his accomplishments but the democrats are being disingenuous by trying to hide the impeachment motivation. they want to take back the house in order to impeach the president and that's what they want to. that's their only agenda item. president trump is not on the ballot, but president trump's agenda is. the american people need to turn out in record numbers to make sure that republicans continue to hold the house in order to not have president trump impeach.

and our voters, the trump voters, need to hear that loud and clear because that is what we get. these are the real world consequences of a democratic takeover. >> but it's just not. and as someone who is on all the democrat mailers and part of the cabal, i can tell you that we are running on a lot more than impeach trump. that's not our motivation for winning, that's all we can put policies into place so we can actually help lower and middle class americans. in 2020, i would love to see president trump out of that office but we will wait until then. >> may be impeached would be better though because you guys talk about how on the left, they say these items have not helped the middle class and and you look at the conference call and ceo talking about how his shoppers are seeing more money in their bank account and seeing confidence in the economy. so the real economic numbers

show a booming middle class and middle america. so when you see it's not helping them, i don't know. >> can't campaign on crumbs. i'm just saying come we are not doing it to impeach. we are doing it to win and protect the environment. >> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪

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>> thank you to david bossi. that was lots of fun. and rachel is hosting fox and friends this weekend and jessica is hosting chinese food on our couch and making us all very hungry. we are back here at noon eastern on monday. here is harris. >> harris: let's begin with the fox news alert. president trump signaling who the next official to lose his security clearance could be, just two days after yanking former cia director john brennan's security clearance. let's go "outnumbered overtime" now, i'm harris faulkner. the president told reporters that he will likely pull bruce ohr's security clearance next. fox news has obtained his notes showing he was deeply connected to the anti-trump dossier and is the author -- his author rather, christopher steele. his wife nellie also worked at fusion gps, the firm behind that