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and group think. good night. see you monday. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: welcome to this special edition of hannity trump vs. the deep state. i'm zsa zsa neon pirro in tonight for sean. earlier today trump was asked about his administration's decision to revoke john brennan's security clearance. the president said he has received a, quote, tremendous response and denied that he is trying to silence his critics. take a look. >> i know that i have gotten tremendous response from having done that because security clearances are very important to me. very, very important.
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i have had a tremendous response for having done that. there is no silence. if anything, i'm giving him a bigger voice. many people don't even know who he is now and now he has a bigger voice and that's okay with me because i like taking on voices like that. i have never respected him. i have never had a lot of respect. and senator burr said it best. if you knew anything, why didn't you report it when you were before all of these committees? including their committee? so he had a chance to report. he never did. this was just came up lately. and it's a disgusting thing, frankly. look, i say it, i stay again. that whole situation is a rigged witch-hunt. it's a totally rigged deal. they should be looking at the other side. they should be looking at all the people that got fired by them, all of the people that got fired they should be looking at bruce ohr and his wife nellie for dealing with, by the way, indirectly russians. they should be looking at steele.
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they should be looking at all these fbi guys who got fired and demoted. it's a really -- it's not us. it is a rigged witch-hunt. i have said it for a long time. >> judge jeanine: the president also called demoted doj official bruce ohr quote a did i grace. he talked about revoking of his security clearance. president trump also pointed out robert mueller's massive conflicts. watch this. >> i think bruce over i bruce oa disgrace. i suspect i will be taking it away very quickly. bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nellie for him to be in the justin department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. that is disqualifying for mueller. and mr. mueller has a lot of conflict, also, directly yourself. so you know that mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted.
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but let him write his report. we did nothing. there is no collusion. but if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side because, when you look at accurately and you look at problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the russians, the other side. >> judge jeanine: also tonight today was the second day of deliberations in the paul manafort trial. the jury has not yet delivered a verdict. they deliberated though for over 14 hours. the trial is now in recess until monday morning. president trump was asked about the manafort trial today and here's what he had to see you about it. >> i think the whole manafort trial is very sawed. when you look at what's going on there. i think it's a very sad day for our country. he worked for me for a very short period of time. but you know what? he happens to be a very good person. and i think it's very sad what they have done to paul manafort. thank you very much. >> judge jeanine: as hannity has explained many times on this show paul manafort's
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trial has nothing to do with russia collusion. joining us now with reaction is the author of "why we fight" fox news national security strategist sebastian gorka, judicial watch tom fitton, and former assistant u.s. attorney victoria toensing. all right, good evening, everyone. i want to start with you sebastian. this whole idea of security clearances, i mean, we all know that you don't have a right to have a security clearance. you know, brennan is kicking and screaming that he is losing his first amendment rights as if he is going to stop talking. and it really is a courtesy, a professional courtesy. so, is this guy entitled to a courtesy of any sort? >> i don't care hot president is, judge. i don't care whether it's a republican or democrat or independent. the fact is why should anybody who has left government service maintain a clearance for the rest of their lives? the viewers should understand that at every
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security clearance the first investigation, just the first one costs you, the taxpayer, $25,000. and then we expect -- go ahead. >> judge jeanine: sebastian here's the argument they make and i understand it there is institutional knowledge. so if a new head of the cia comes in and he says, you know, let me talk to somebody who has done this before, not that mike pompeo is going to wants to call john brennan. [laughter] >> right. >> judge jeanine: but that is the argument. whether it's a new da coming in or new cia, does that make sense though? >> but, no, it doesn't. even that one doesn't make sense. why? what happens to john brennan? what happens to james woolsey if they leave the position of director of cia and they are read out of the programs and lose their clearance. dolls their institutional memory suddenly fall out of their ears?
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, it doesn't. if their advice, if their counsel is requested by their successor in this administration, i can guarantee you, judge, nobody wants to ask john brennan's advice because he vote you had to are the communist in 1976 and is he still doing the work of putin. if they want to talk to him, they can invite him back. he can sit in a scif he can tell you back in 1980 whatever the clearance is irrelevant to the question of instiewcialg institutional memory. tom at this time upon i will go to you. let's start in the topic of clearance. hillary clinton exposed classified secrets on our email and that's according to jim comey like an open orchid according to romanian hacker guccifer. why is she still walking around with security clearances and why isn't she on that list of wants so to speak. >> that's a good question whether she has one or not is an open question frankly. the idea of a courtesy
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national security clearance tells you it's not about national security. it's about political reacts here in washington, d.c. where these former officials keep their security clearances to use as part of theirs rest nile increase their value to their next employers. had has nothing to do with national security. it's an indication of swamp politics the way things work and it was a brilliant anticorruption move by the president foe take on brennan here. i hope he does go down the list and frankly we should reform the whole system. once you leave government we have no more need four not working for the government anymore and not a contractor you lose your national security experience. doesn't mean we don't appreciate the prior service we move on to protect the national security for people walking around out on the street no government business for having it. >> judge jeanine: this doesn't go back into the company and check with it once their time is up their time is up. victoria, if you have got
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these people who keep their clearance and there is no question they are monetizing, politicizing, consultants, advisors, lobbyists msnbc and cnn consultant or talking heads, but, is there a sun set period where it automatically and i know you represent a lot of these people who have clearances over the years. is there a sun set you then fight to keep it? >> judge, i'm the only one on this panel who has a clearance. i have top secret clearances right this minute. >> judge jeanine: how often do you have to go through a review. >> ? is to answer your question. it depends. i have had representation of people from the cia and most recently my uranium one, doug campbell client and so i had to have top secret clearances in order to be able to talk with him. and so it depends on what you are doing. i don't know, i don't know do you need a top secret clearance to do your job? because that's the job brennan is doing right now.
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he is on tv. i don't think he needs it for that. >> judge jeanine: what about everyone else? why -- let's talk about and i will go to you, bruce ohr bacback peddling. wife made the dossier and channeling this information from the steele to the doj. i mean, why, forget about security clearance. why is he even working in the department of justice? >> there is one reason and one reason alone. as you are well aware, there are certain draven things that yo --administrative thingst you can do to someone who is government employee you can't do to them once they have been fired. that's the charitable excuse. my advice is very simple to the administration. everybody like brennan, like clapper, like mccabe who have demonstrated their
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partisanship should be stripped of their clearances forth with. anybody else on that long, long list. and it's not just the list sarah huckabee read. >> exactly. >> anybody whose fingerprints are on uranium one, on fisa gate, on unmasking and i mean it all of -- hang on. >> judge jeanine: why isn't he doing it? >> well, i think he gets -- i will tell you why, look, there is a certain individuals in the council to the president's office who are more lawyers than they are political professionals and they don't understand the cost to national security of not stripping these people of their security clearances. >> judge jeanine: you know tom fitton -- you know what? i will go to you victoria, said something that's interesting. a lot of these lawyers nut oval office in there saying do you know the this. you can't do that. well, what do you think? >> well, i think that's
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going to change because i think the president has found a shiny new toy and that is something else that he can do in addition to pardons that nobody can stop him from doing. >> judge jeanine: right. >> not with standing the silly people on the hill that are going to pass some legislation that stops him from taking away clearances. they can't stop him. that's executive authority. and i think he has found it, that he is tweaking people and in particular people that he wants to tweak. and it's going to continue. unabated, i predict u. >> judge jeanine: okay. tom fitton, okay. now, have you got bruce ohr who clearly is violating all of the rules of the fbi and the doj as it relates to sources. why is mueller not investigating them? i heard someone say today well, it's supposed to be about the election. this is about the election. it's about bruce ohr working with fusion gps and his wife is making money off of fusion. he is not declaring that money in his financial disclosure. is he conflicted.
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i mean, why isn't mueller looking at him? instead mueller is taking the investigation or the information from him. >> well, there's your problem. have you got mueller using bruce ohr's information, christopher steele's information at the clinton dnc dossier. using that, taking that whole obama-clinton operation targeting trump and running with it. look, this justice department is attacking the presidency through the mueller operation. saying that he hasn't had the right to fire the fbi director and investigating him for that? now they are messing with his ability to conduct foreign policy. if i were the president, i would come in and tell the justice department either you stop it and you refuse to do so i may go to court to get it stopped. right now have you got an out-of-control mueller investigation. we see where they are going with manafort, where they are willing to break every rule in the book to get someone who is not even involved in russia collusion. lord knows what else they are willing to do to get president trump.
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>> judge jeanine: sebastian maybe can you put a period on that one. clearly, you have got these guys involved in the run-up to the election. their jobs, they violated the rules and they -- you know, to many they have committed obstruction you have justice by creating this false document and lied to the court. why is mueller not looking at them? >> i will tell you why. because the day before mueller was appointed special counsel by his best friend, rod rosenstein, he had an interview in the white house to which rod rosenstein escorted him in which he wanted to get his old job back as the director of the fbi. robert mueller wanted his old job back, and he failed. he crashed and burned and the new president said no, you're not going to be the director. i want new blood. comey, what did rod rosenstein do? the next day he appointed this man as special
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prosecutor against a man who he had failed in front of during his job interview that is the biggest conflict of interest. this is a revenge operation. bob mueller is execute ago revenge operation. >> judge, let me say something because there is a legal reason also that this is happening and it's the way rod rosenstein drafted the authority that he gave to mueller. he said anything, any link that you find between the trump campaign and the russian government he did not give an authority to mueller to go into the clinton campaign or anything to do with this -- the dnc. >> judge jeanine: go ahead, tom. >> mueller should be investigating himself. he is a witness in this case. it's an absurd and incredibly absurd to have him run this investigation given his personal involvement in the underlying facts of the case. where is the justice department? >> judge jeanine: tomorrow night in my open because we have to go guys, i am going after him for all his conflicts. thank you very much all of
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you cottrell written herrige has obtained emails and notes from bruce ohr. catherine is joining us next with a full report. we will get reaction from sara carter, gregg jarrett congressman matt gaetz as this special edition of hannity continues. ♪ ♪
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>> judge jeanine, the text messages obtained by fox news between bruce ohr and former british spy christopher steele from january 2017 until late november and suggest steele asked ohr to be his go between with the special counsel. quote, we are frustrated with how long this reengagement with the bureau and robert mueller is taking steele writes. anything you could do to accelerator the process would be very much appreciated. three months later steele describes to ohr mounting legal pressure and the constant stress of media scrutiny. i'm presuming have you heard nothing back from your special counsel colleagues on the issues you kindly put to them for me. we have heard nothing either. steele continues that the radio silence is beyond disappointing. certain people have been willing to risk everything he writes to engage in an effort to help them reach the truth. separately the emails suggest o hr, his rife nellie were in frequent contact with fusion gps glenn simpson whose firm put together the dossier using research. today president trump
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singled out ohr whose security clearance is under review. >> bruce ohr is a disgrace. i think i will be taking it away quickly. is he a disgrace are with his wife nellie for him to be in the justice department and to be doing what he did that is a disgrace. >> asked whether their office has engaged with ohr or used ohr as intermediary for steele a spokesman for robert mueller declined to comment. judge? >> judge jeanine: thank you, catherine. sara carter has obtained notes from bruce ohr in one of her reporting in one of ohr's notes in 2017 he writes about a call with christopher steele and reveals that steele was, quote: very concerned about comey's firing of, afraid they will be exposed joining us with more is sara carter the "new york times" bestselling author of russia hoax fox news legal analyst
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gregg jarrett and florida congressman matt gaetz. all right. good evening, everyone. now, sara, what you have unethed some additional information. why don't you tell us what that is. >> i think it's very telling what bruce ohr and his relationship with christopher steele and how concerned christopher steele was that this would be exposed. there was also another text message, judge jeanine, that i was able to publish last week and it was about the fire walls and christopher steele basically asked bruce ohr will our firewalls we have in place hold? this is also very telling. something that is very concerning to congress because, apparently, it seems that they premed indicated and worked around bruce ohr as a back channel to deliver steele's messages right over to the fbi even though he had been fired but they put up filers and what fir. what congress wants to know
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that's what they want to know when they bring limb in for deposition. >> judge jeanine: matt gaetz you had your share of these individuals. when he does come before two committees at the end of august, what do you expect to hear? now we are hearing things that he didn't talk about in the past. >> we nowe know bruce and nellie ohr collusion. use our justice department to influence robert mueller's investigation this is after fusion gps hired the spouse of bruce ohr to be able to have their influence. you have the spouse of a senior justice department official colluding with an agent of a foreign government, christopher steele with the express you had purpose of trying to destabilize the u.s. presidential election. why is this not what we are looking into? rye is robert mueller not looking into this foreign
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interference around not the hoax of the trump russia which by the way gregg jarrett points out in his book. >> that's a nice plug. when the congressman talked about the fact that nellie was hired by fusion, nellie ohr, do we know when she was hired by fusion g.p.s. >> yes. she was hired by fusion gps in 2016. >> judge jeanine: this is right before the election. >> that's right. with a very specific purpose, judge gentleman gentleo she is fluent in russian. she is also a russia expert this was very well coordinated i agree with matt gaetz. congressman gates is right. this was an effort to bring russian disinformation into this dossier and into this election to affect the election.
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>> judge jeanine: gregg jarrett bruce ohr is in legal jeopardy. what can he be charged with. >> these are the documents, 63 pages, i have looked through them over the last few days i have had them and it's clear to me that he is in legal jeopardy. astonishing that he is still employed. here's why. bruce and nellie ohr's bank account is getting fatter and fatter because of the dossier that they're both peddling. he doesn't disclose it on federal regulations. he is required to do so. so, that is potentially a crime filing a false report. >> judge jeanine: right, right. >> beyond that using your federal office for personal financial gain is federal grew throughout statute violation, bribery statute violation. >> judge: why is the guy still working? >> these guys know this in the department of justice. why is the guy still working? >> because the department of justice is run by a feckless attorney general named jeff sessions and rod rosenstein,
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the deputy attorney general who is obstructing congress, i believe, to cover up his own participation and wrongdoing. he filed and signed the renewal application for the wiretap on the trump campaign without the required evidence. >> and, judge, i wanted to make a point about what gregg just said. rod rosenstein won't tell us when he first learned that nellie ohr was working for fusion gps. i want to know from bruce ohr when did he tell his colleagues at the department of justice that in violation of the law that required him to disclose his wife's occupation and her sources of income, he did not do that. so when did all the other people at the department of justice find this out because rod rosenstein, i have asked him twice in open hearings and he will not give an answer. i think there is a real smoking gun there. >> judge jeanine: i think there is more than a smoking gun there let's go back,
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sara carter, to the when idea of nellie ohr getting the job right before the election and then as gregg says pocketing all of this cash in their bank account. and ohr is facilitating, trying to get christopher steele who has been cut loose on the mueller team now why are they so invested in this that they know they can be charged with crimes, lose their job. what is it that they are caught up on? >> they are caught up on removing president trump. they are caught up on publish pushing disinformation and lies into the american public and media and trying to get these lies to stick. what they didn't expect was for all of this to come out and to be revealed, judge jeanine. now we look at rod rosenstein. let me say one thing about this. he signed that fourth fisa application. he would have known. he would have known so all
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of this information. were four renewals he should have known what was in there. if he didn't, there is something wrong with him. this is one of the biggest cases in the country u. >> judge jeanine: i want to start with the manafort trial today. the jury has been let go or the evening. when i was a judge i very often would keep juries once they got a case i would keep them them. in especially in a case like this where there is so much public interest. what do you think? it seems that the definition attorney is very heartened by some of the questions about reasonable doubt. >> that's right. they sent out auto question yesterday to the judge what's the definition of reasonable doubt. as you know the former judge and d.a. there is know legal standard definition for reasonable doubt because we leave it to the discretion and determination of the jurors themselves. it's a very, very high burden. the reason the defense is
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pleased about that because they mounted a reasonable doubt defense. they didn't call a case in ernest but did it through cross-examination. >> judge jeanine: what do you think is going to happen. >> i think they zeroed in on one or two jurors to either hang the jury or convince the jury unanimously there is reasonable doubt, you cannot convict. congressma n, what do you think is going to happen on the case? >> well, i think it's going to be overblown because nothing in this case has anything to do with donald trump, the trump campaign or involvement in 2016 with russia? >> judge jeanine: will he be connected. >> i guess i don't care if he pays taxes in the 1980s or 90s distraction to the country. >> should have been irs audit civil penalty and interest. >> judge jeanine: this is what the feds do, gregg. it's what they do.
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sara, have you 10 seconds left. >> we see what happened today with judge ellis coming out and saying he has been threatened. he has to have the security of marshals and now there is a lot of concern about these jurors this is what happens judge jeanine we have such a divisive country and so much rhetoric from the other side. >> judge jeanine: that's why i am surprised he has let them out so there is a possibility of tampering. this is a hot climate. appreciate your input. coming up senator lindsey graham is raising concerns with the head of the fbi about the bureau's political bias during the 2016 campaign. kristin fisher has a live report from washington next. and don't forget to get your hands on a copy of my book "new york times" best selling book liars leakers and liberal
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>> judge jeanine: welcome back to this special edition of hannity. today, senator lindsey graham wrote a letter to the director of the fbi, christopher wray and expressed his concerns about the, quote: double standard and mounting evidence of bias trump campaign during the 2016 election. joining us with more from washington is kristin fisher. kristin. >> judge, senator lindsey graham is accusing the fbi of a double standard because of the difference in terms of how it handled russian contacts with the trump campaign. first thousand handled a suspected chinese spy on democratic senator dianne feinstein's staff. sent a letter to fbi director christopher wray today senator graham said that quote so i appreciate the fbi's diligence in identifying the staff with potential ties to the chinese government and providing senator dianne feinstein with a defensive briefing i'm deeply troubled that the trump campaign was not afforded the same treatment. this letter comes just bays after senator graham said on "fox news sunday" that he wants to appoint another
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special counsel. this one to investigate the fbi and why a department of justice official bruce ohr was allowed to investigate then candidate trump while ohr's wife worked for the opposition research firm that produced that now infamous dossier. >> bruce ohr was at least ethical. we need a special counsel to look at all things department of justice and fbi when it came to the trump administration, church investigation particularly the intelligence investigation. >> senator graham sure came out swinging this week. >> judge jeanine: all right, kristin. thanks so much. former press secretary for vice president pence mark louder and jordan sekulow. you know, mark, this whole idea of bringing in another special counsel to investigate mueller which is something i talked about last saturday in my open and
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i'm going after him tomorrow night, doesn't the deputy director the deputy attorney general have to be the one to appoint a new special counsel? and that would be rod rosenstein? >> it would either be rod rosenstein or attorney general sessions. >> judge jeanine: hold on, sessions is hiding in a closet. he ain't coming out for this this would be a great time to come out on this. let's talk about the biggest double standard there was. hillary clinton got a free pass. the trump administration is under a special prosecutor investigation. can you time and time again. the fbi politely asked the dnc for their server. the key piece of evidence and yet, bob mueller subpoenaed everything under the sun from the trump campaign. one double standard after another. >> judge jeanine: you know what? i have to tell you jordan
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sekulow. i bet a lot of people wouldn't be concerned with the procedure like you go in with search warrants and you try to -- you drag people out of bed to get information when you have a warrant. okay. that's bad. that's horrible. but where things are as blatant as they are right now with back channeling from a guy who was let go by the fbi. who was getting the fake dossier written. pal with bruce ohr and his wife. they are making money on it they are now shivering in their boots that comey is fired. how can this guy mueller absolutely or anyone else continue to investigate and get up in the morning and look at himself? >> you know what we have said, jeanine, is whatever happened, judge, with the information that peter strzok gathered at his time during when he was on the mueller team? remember, peter strzok was in charge of this investigation for an entire year before the special counsel was appointed. did they shred everything
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and start over? i highly doubt that but, yet, we see his bias and he gets fired from the special counsel's team because of the text messages. ultimately gets fired from the fbi. joins his friend andrew mccabe and james comey and i hope soon bruce ohr from the department of justice. what i believe is this. when we begin to investigate the investigators and i'm talking about outside groups and news outlets begin and congress begin to investigate the investigators, they fall. they fall one by one by one in this situation because they were trying to, one, influence an election. and when they weren't capable of doing that to defeat donald trump, they decided, okay, let's see what we can do to try to take him out after he is president. why did bruce ohr keep working with christopher steele. >> judge jeanine: okay they are framing him. >> yeah. >> judge jeanine: good. now, mark, here's the question. i mean, if mueller is going to continue to do this investigation, no one is going to appoint a special counsel because sessions ain't going to do it.
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rod rosenstein honestly should be fired based upon and by the way, guys, you know, i have a news flash for you. rod rosenstein's wife has own issues. there is power couple thing going on in washington. yet, the american people are frustrated. they are not getting any kind of answer. and they are just -- they are almost giving up on us. what can we do, mark? >> i think the biggest thing is we can get behind senator graham's call. demand more information and, remember, there was a lot of congressional pressure when bob mueller was being appointed in addition to the work by rod rosenstein. if we can get enough members of congress calling for this special counsel. you will put the pressure on to get it done. >> judge jeanine: let's talk about jordan then. notify dianne feinstein they
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think she has a chinese spy driving around who has been on staff for 20 years when it comes to donald trump and they think there is russian collusion. they don't give him out courtesy of saying we think there may be some spies involved. no, what they do is put their own spy in to see what trump is doing. they call it a human source. how do they justify this? >> they can't justify it, judge it goes right to the op-ed that brennan wrote yesterday after he got his security clearance dropped. what did he leave out in that op-ed? he said there is definitely collusion it's just whether or not it's criminal. why didn't he do anything about it? when did he learn about this collusion he is so certain about? because if he learned about it when he was cia director why didn't he notify the secretary of state who run our presidential elections across the country? why didn't he notify congress or the trump campaign to be careful? and maybe even it was so broad that they needed to notify the american people about these efforts because you have the social media. he did nothing.
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so, as senator burr has said, he either knew everything and sat on it which was wrong as cia director or knew nothing and then there was an intelligence breach after he left the cia, which is how he found out this information supposedly which, again, would be a pretty good reason for pulling his security clearance along with by the way, calling the president guilty of treason which is a crime punishable by death. i think at that point you get your security clearance pulled, mr. brennan. >> judge jeanine: i talk about brennan in my book and i call him pond scum brennan. so forth deep state. if you want to read about him. i have got them all here. final question to you, marc. when it comes this mueller investigation do you think it will come to an end before the mid terms? do you think it will go on and on? the lindsey graham letter isn't going anywhere unless rod rosenstein or jeff sessions decides they want
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to get back in line with law and order and that's not happening. >> i think the best way bob mueller can try to salvage his reputation is to get this wrapped up so he can be accused of not trying to influence the midterm election. if there is any possible way, i would hope that he would take that. you have got a few weeks left. get your report written. get it to the people who need to see it and then let's let the american people find out what actually happened because, as the president said from day one there has been no collusion and there has still been no evidence of it. >> or else, give -- >> judge jeanine: coming up, rush limbaugh is sounding off on the left over john freakt over john brennan losing his security c
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join jean welcome back to special edition of hannity. president trump weigherush limbn president trump revoking. >> these people have acted in corrupt ways to sabotage the united states presidential election and then a subsequent united states presidency. why do they qualify for a security clearance in the first place? this is the swamp that trump promised everybody that he was going to drain and he is doing a good job of it. what press freedom is being infringed? donald trump is not doing
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one thing to stop them. all he is doing is calling them out. all is he doing is pushing back and this is what it looks like. all donald trump is doing is what we have wanted any republican to do for the last 20 years. he is doing it. they say it's a denial of their freedom. they say the presidency is broken. they say we need to amend the constitution to get rid of the presidency because trump won. they are the ones that have the agenda that limits and denies freedom. they're the ones with the agenda that is punitive to their opponents. >> judge jeanine: joining me now with reaction is fox news contributor and former clinton polster doug schoen and go pac chairman. i have to tell you i'm always mesmerized by rush
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limbaugh. he is such a powerful speaker. so, when he says he talks about what freedom, doug, what makes them think they can sabotage or attempt to sabotage an election and then a presidency. and keep their clearances, i mean, he has got a good point. >> here's the way i saw it as a general matter, the idea of pulling security clearances for political reasons, i would say, is a bad thing. but, when i heard former director brennan call trump treasonous, i thought that was way over the line. i disagreed with how trump handledth press conference, how he has handled reels with russia. but i really i have a very bad feeling about mr. brennan and i really would like to know more about what he knows, what he thinks and why he is saying what he is saying. >> judge jeanine: because he hates donald trump. he tried to frame him. he is the guy who was, you know, trying to sell a whole idea. let's get the dossier.
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let's move it around. he hates the man. >> i think we need to investigate the fbi, the dossier. steele, and ohr's connection. i think what trump said today. >> judge jeanine: should ohr still be working? >> he wouldn't be working in my justice department, i don't think. but i would like to have a systematic investigation so we know the facts. i think that's fair and that's reasonable. >> judge jeanine: all right, david avel la, don't know we not facts? we have seen the notes of bruce ohr his wife nellie is working for fusion and paying christopher steele to get that dossier and then they are trying to peddle it around bruce ohr is trying to get steele back on mueller's team. they are like a pack of wolves going after donald trump. they must all hang out together because they -- i will leave it at that what do you think? >> oh, wow, there you go. also, let's add to that we're about to see some of these pack of wolves as you
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say starting to go after each other. as more and more questions come out about strzok and now ohr and all of them have to defend themselves, you will start to see these wolves going after each other they act like a security clearance is a lifetime perk that you get forever. and most americans get the concept that when you are not in government, and you don't need to have a security clearance, you don't have to keep it. and the third thing which may be the most important with brennan is this is a guy who left the cia under a cloud of investigation as to whether he used the cia to the senate intelligence agency as they were trying to address the cia. >> judge jeanine: that's been proven the guy lied to senate intel about whether or not he was investigating and senate and senate staffers because they were looking at what he was doing with the cia torture program.
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the guy is a liar to begin with plus he voted for a communist. how he ever got up to the top of the cia is beyond me. but then again, it was the obama administration. what do you think, doug? >> well, again, i appreciate the passion you bring to bear. my attitude, as i said before, is i would like to investigate. >> judge jeanine: what do you want to investigate? >> i want to do a systematic government review of the issues and allegations you and gregg and david are bringing to bear, rush limbaugh. let's do that once and for all. >> judge jeanine: congress has been doing. this congress has been watching this stuff. >> why don't they hold these guys in contempt then if they are not getting the documents they want? >> thank you very much doug schoen. go ahead, david. >> well, we -- >> we need consequences. >> we do need consequences. the challenge is, many in the media have made everything about this breaking news. that for most americans it's
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hard to keep up with what is actually breaking news. and once even when we do finally get the end results about this, there is going to be americans who think this was completely political, which is unfortunate because there are real questions being -- that need to be asked about how this fbi and how the obama administration's fbi used their office to politicize and weaponize the bureau for the political purposes to which they used it. >> judge jeanine: yeah, but you know what my concern is, doug, that if we get all the facts out, like you guys are talking about, i'm convinced i have the facts. >> okay. >> i have seen it, i have heard it all the bad guys -- >> -- you are neither a judge or prosecutor. did you both jobs well but it needs to be done officially. i want to see the results of the mueller probe before. >> judge jeanine: oh you know what? it's like the results of the horowitz ig. >> it's right to let things
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run their course and make judgments. >> judge jeanine: they are going to run their course and nothing is going to happen. that's why people are fed up with government. >> you should write another best seller. >> judge jeanine: okay. thank you. >> i hope that's a good idea. >> judge jeanine: thanks, doug, i appreciate it more of this special edition of hannity after the break. stay with us. ♪ ♪
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♪ >> welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." but unfortunately that's all the time we have left this evening. but be sure to pick up a copy of my new number-one new york times best seller. it's in the book. it's all there. and don't forget to tune into justice tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern. rudy giuliani is going to join
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me and street justice is back. and by the way, my open is going to be on bob mueller. i am so tired of this guy messing everything up. he's got to go. i hope you'll tune in. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to a special inside the issues edition of "tucker carlson tonight." over the next hour we will take a deeper dive into some of the biggest matters affecting american life today. we start with speech. as you probably heard, recently many of the biggest tech companies joined in a coordinated effort to sensor content from alex jones. apple, facebook, spotify, very manyio, youtube, all of them pulled or froze jones' accounts on the grounds that his views are too dangerous to be heard publicly. the left which seeks to crush anything it can't control applauded the news. the institutional right in

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