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you. it is incumbent upon the media considering on the right or the left, we have plenty of time. in fact if we don't then we are out of time, we are out of jobs. here is a "the five" >> dana: hello everyone, i'm dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is a "the five" ." the security clearance showdown intensifies, the feud between president trump and john brennan rages on. brennan also threatening legal action against the president from preventing others from having their clearances pulled. >> i will do it every i can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future. if it means going to court, i will do that. i've seen the light sprinkling
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read in terms of what mr. trump has done and is doing. i've been speaking out rather forcefully because i believe it's important to do so. i don't believe i'm being political at all. >> dana: is firing back on twitter. meanwhile some former intelligence officials are blasting the former cia director's rhetoric and routine criticism of the president. >> i think it is, and it sort of like a freight train, he will say what's on his mind. john and his rhetoric have become an issue in and of itself. >> he has been incredibly critical of the president and that has put him in a political place which actually does more damage for the intelligence community which is apolitical. >> so those are former officials and that's what i had heard is welcome at the intelligence
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large had wished that john brennan had not gone out and done that. >> so instead of intelligence officials, now it's in the triple figures and i have come out and said i don't think he should've been stripped, that's fine. however i just thought it was stunning as well, i watch all the sunday shows because i'm lonely and i heard chuck todd say, listen. if you didn't say treason, if you weren't actually attacking them, then i think that we wouldn't be at this place. but when people hear you talk, you have to understand that people look at you as a cia director. >> dana: this is what brian is talking about. >> do you regret essentially accusing the president of treason? >> i called his behavior treasonous which is to betray once trust, and i stand very much by that claim. >> dana: what do you think greg? >> greg: the media -- it's not
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like they are mad that this guy is hurting the intelligence community. they are mad because he's helping trump every time he opens his mouth. right now, brennan's allies feel like this guy is betraying them with his stupidity. do we have that clip of rachel maddow. he basically said his actions were nothing short of treasonou treasonous. and she's looking at him going, nothing short of treason, but not treason. so you are seeing rachel maddow, clapper and cnn, backing away from brennan who is like that guy on the subway flinging at the families. but most of america doesn't care about that stuff and i say this a lot. if america were this vast amusement park with all these wonderful things you can do, right now the media is in the tiniest corner of that amusement park on the teacups going around
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and around. meanwhile everyone else is enjoying space mountain. the only reason why the story exists is because the times that we lived in right now which is we have peace breaking out all of her, and economic boom, we don't have enough people to fill jobs so we have this carnival sideshow on every show because there's nothing else to talk about. it's basically a good thing. >> that is real and, even if you don't it's going to hate you. >> i was in the rural south for ten days and this is what i heard. why does a professional political below v8 so have a security clearance if he is not working within the white house? i think they are upset that he
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has blown up the gravy train. >> if you like working with the defense contractor, it may be. >> it makes you a little more higher-level. >> it's 5 minutes in. >> and its financially to their advantage to keep it. what strikes me is that they are not backing away from brennan. that's what klapper said, he's like a freight train in terms of his criticism. >> you could believe both things. >> i don't think it's backing away from it, i think this is the most troubling to me, there is a breach between the united states and the intelligence community. and they say, it doesn't matter -- >> this is what they
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are saying. that's what they are saying, not me. >> i'm not saying that's not a good thing for any president. >> that's not good and i find it alarming because i think down the road you have to have trust and norms in order to have a society and i think those are being eroded. >> i guess the administration should trust brennan. >> you don't have to make it. >> can i bring up one thing? lisa page is -- sally gates as well and andrew mccabe. the others, leave him alone. use it as an opportunity to go ahead and re-examine this whole issuance of the point you're making and put a panel together that looks at this and gets back together in six months to revisit it.
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i would make the world a better place. >> you know, pirates of the caribbean, maybe. >> he is in the hole. we have the vip pass. >> you know what worries me, it's kind of like the clinton era which was before 9/11. we were obsessed and dealing with scandals, and what was going on in the oval office, and monica lewinsky. so we have this small ball stuff to quote juan williams, and what could happen, what could be going on. because we are diverted to this stuff. we are in a nice calm peace time, time of peace. >> that's what the dni, dan coats said it, testimony in front of congress three weeks
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ago. you also have to be more creative and it feels a little bit more like that time. >> they don't have a problem with his security clearance being revoked because he's under scrutiny. it was his role of opening the trump campaign? what was his role using partisan funded research paid for by the clintons to get a surveillance warrant on an american citizen? he's been very critical, brennan, of the house intelligence committee work. president trump has an option and the editorial page wrote about it last week, it just opened the box and let everybody see all of the intelligence, let's find out. >> and the precedent has nothing to do with what was decided to, guy is reckless, and erratic.
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but the real point is, this is about punishing a critic. >> the reason was spurious about the end result was right. >> you know what, you used the word spurious and he didn't. >> and we will find out later according to greg got filed if he even knew what that word meant. >> he said revoking brennan security clearance, the right thing even if for the wrong reason. >> all right, we have new fallout after a report reveals robert mueller's team, and president trump reaction is coming up next. ♪
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"angry, democratic thugs" who reportedly met with mcgann for over 30 hours. they acute the investigators of trying to tell them in terms while blasting them as "a national disgrace." meanwhile his lawyer fired back against the report. >> this is a desperate special counsel who leaked this to "the new york times," illegally i might add. it could be mcgann, mcgann isn't doing it, and he would've done it a long time ago if he was going to do it. they are down to desperation time. >> oh lord, they came to me first. >> mcgann's own attorney william burke said on the record that he only cooperated after president trump waives any privilege claim which is something that -- president trump is getting no
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credit for waving that claim when bill clinton bought tooth and nail to avoid his aid from testifying but sidney blumenthal and bruce lindsey, just to name two examples. so in this instance with waiving privilege, mcgann would have to answer to special counsel selections in every single one of them because it can't fight privilege. >> the thing is, mcgann was there for 30 hours. >> i know bill burke very well, we worked together at the white house for full disclosure, and i know the issue on executive privilege very well because we had to fight it when the democrats took over in 2006, oh seven and oh eight. they wanted to put everybody under oath, put everybody under subpoena including josh bolton and chief of staff et cetera and you had to assume -- he went back to the president's initial lawyers and said, are you sure that the president doesn't want
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to assert any privilege? the first lawyers are overheard at a steak house, shooting the breeze and talking about how they are going to hang it all on don mcgann if it all goes bad. he says, i didn't think it was a good idea in the first place. trump says go talk to mueller, don't you have to do. i don't think it matters, 30 hours. well, he answered a lot of the questions and mcgann has been there ever since doing the work of the president, doing the good work for him. presumably if he didn't feel like the president, i think this is much ado about nothing at this point. >> greg, what do you think about democrat thugs? >> greg: i think he's right. donald trump compared this probe to mccarthyism, but he had the wrong mccarthy, not joe mccarthy but charlie mccarthy. a bunch of dummies, the strings are being pulled by a bunch of overheated tax in the media. >> they made a really good point
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which is, if trump's actions are lawful, which it looks like, that's what's going to happen, you cannot question the motivations behind it because then that is nothing more than mind-reading. if trump's head -- if it's all in trump's head about his actions are clear then you've got nothing. that's a pretty compelling point to make which is why you see on morning joe now, they are talking once again about trump being mentally unwell and he's got some kind of mental derangement, he's incapable. and, that means they that you overslept and didn't have any time to do any reading or work. >> but let's say mueller comes back and says cleared, no collusion, and then of course the white house isn't going to be very happy about that like i told you so all along. but the democrat says it was rigged. it might never end. >> when is joe scarborough on? because it seems to me that greg
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grew up a fan of fox and friends, i'm just wondering why you are watching him? >> or mornings with maria. >> also it makes me laugh. >> what competition? [laughter] >> two things we found out they do know, maybe bill burke would tell you something different on "the new york times" guy. >> i haven't talked to them about the case. >> while he was very interested in the comey firing, i would have thought of. talk about coming out of left field, but here is what's going to happen. if i understood john roberts report, and my scores were averaging yet my reading was strong. he came out and said today, the reason why -- school? the reason why dowd came out and
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did this is because he wanted to talk to everybody. and he says that we got to prepare ourselves to get thrown under the bus. as months passed it became apparent that mcgann and burke had overestimated the amount of thought that went into the president saying, go talk to him. they had no master plan to throw him out of the bus, he just said to come and go talk to him. i got nothing to hide. >> he thinks that it will say to his supporters, i got nothing to hide. i'm telling people to go ahead and talk. and that's why ty cobb and others have gone -- the problem with the giuliani strategy is today that headline is all about truth is in truth. >> i will go be the broken record here. if you read these names to the american public, you could be
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reading them members of a new zealand cricket team. >> that's why we do that all on the show. >> i'm trying to supplement a lead tell them that the producers -- >> let me ask about another member of that cricket team, uncle cohen. apparently now the pressure is rising on michael cohen and of the threat is that he knows so much about the operations of the trump business empire as well as trump personally. >> and this is lenny davis, lenny davis lives to serve hillary clinton. the way we could give back is for michael going,: , michael cn agreeing -- to suddenly throw that out there to get him in trouble. davis would have no problem telling michael cohen to do all that. >> michael cohen used to be loyal to this president and he values loyalty above all else. >> that led up to the decision that president trump would not
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talk about mueller. >> he said it, what can i say that he didn't say? >> the fbi can lie to you all day long. >> which makes me think he was not leaked by the molar probe. mueller probe. >> whoever first complained about the leak is usually the leak. >> there's a lot of stormy weather and the politics of late august. stronach the feud between new york democratic governor cuomo and president trump escalated on the potential of 2020 showdown when we return on "the five" ." to be their best, kids need good nutrition. and practice... lots of practice.
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first up, anti-trump critic and it democratic senator kirsten gillibrand launched a new attack on the president as an intern approached. >> i think what happens in november is going to decide what our country looks like. i think this election is a referendum on president trump plus the fact that he doesn't represent most americans in his values don't end up lining up with most americans are being heard in this election sets the stage for everything in the future. >> nice take t's. meanwhile fresh off of his, america isn't that great commen comment, andrew cuomo ramps up the war of words over the weekend. >> the debate we are having about this president is really about the type of country we want to be. this is about our values and our beliefs, this is about our character. he came with a very specific vision and after a year and a half of taking his actions, you now see the outline of the america that he wants to bring
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to us. and it is a frightening portrait. >> for a minute i almost forgot about his comment, and america not being that great. sorry, that will never be forgotten. are we elevating andrew cuomo to trump status? >> for a couple weeks. the day after the midterm is when the primary starts on the democratic side. a woman from a third way is that on her list she has written down 35 potential democrat candidates and they will be vying for something. there will be mayors, governors, senators, and they will all be looking for a way. andrew cuomo benefits right now because where does he love to fight? in the new york tabloid media. andrew cuomo loves to get beat up or beat up on trump. >> does it hurt cuomo that he is a terrible governor? >> i don't know that he's a terrible governor because when i
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look at the numbers right now, cynthia nixon running against him and pushing him from the left which is why i think in a state where president trump has i think negative 56, you can understand why cuomo is going after trump. in national you can understand why trump is going after cuomo when he makes statements like, america isn't that great. >> but why is he being pushed by cynthia nixon? tell me what you care about? what are you about? why are you trying to grab the way left? >> in terms of confidence, wouldn't you agree, he's a celebrity, she is a well-known actress and she's out there saying that cuomo is too much of the establishment. you talk about populism in these times, antiestablishment. >> that's my point. with a name like cuomo, you are a celebrity and political
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circles in new york. his name wasn't on it because he's the worst retail politician ever. he could change -- he could change his name to hillary clinton to have a better shot at running for the nomination in 2,020. >> here's what bothers me, have you ever traveled to upstate new york? >> many times. don't pretend we don't share a cab. >> they are suffering economically, barely holding on. they want to do this thing called fracking because this thing called oil is in the ground. an environment of study says, i can go ahead and do it. so he says now that i paid for it i'm not going to. he is robbing them of living in a future simply because he's trying to run for president in two years and i find that important. >> you know who else is struggling? me, look at venezuela, it's a
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hood ornament of progressivism and, when you look at cuomo and gillibrand, they are ideas that are connected to any kind of progressivism. no matter what it will make you sick. so what they have to do is, they have to go after the tribe, and the problem is when paychecks are rising, which they are, and if that's evil, -- i want evil for everybody. this is what cuomo said to that blackcomb congregation. he said trump is the and body as of division and intolerance. >> may actually respond to it and i think trump could do a better job convincing that particular audience that he is helping him, because he is helping him lower unemployment.
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>> do you want to see something that helps donald trump? listen to this joke. >> i will tell you one joke. do you know the difference between a crisis and a catastrophe? a crisis is jumping into the river and you can't swim. >> do you think that helps anybody? >> it certainly doesn't, and, if that had been set by republican member of congress, we would have called them out on it too. >> he has to know he's going to get out there. >> they criticized the president about tweeting and insults and the like, but they are great at throwing out left wing clickbait, that all these witless lemmings gobble up and regurgitate on everyone else in the form of hate.
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we get it all the time. >> and i don't even think it's that funny. >> it's like an algebra problem, brian, what's a guy that cohosts with you? >> the tall guy. >> peter doocy. peter doocy's dad. >> you know it's funny, he remembers the name of the show and he has a book to sell. [laughter] >> for me there was big news over the weekend that steve bannon is saying that he sees democrats winning more than 40 feet and i thought, steve bannon is trying to get back in with trump. >> he is trying to scare the base. >> we will handle that.
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and it's obvious with twitter and how they treat the fringes. fringe right, your band, fringe left, have a private seat in our lounge. this admission is key in the area of fake news accusations. what trump has been doing is what we've been doing for decades, sitting in front of the tv and shouting at the bias merchants at these big networks as the they deliver shoddy claims and god knows what else. we screamed until someone listens. the huge success of fair and balanced shows that you were only getting half the story before the half that's imbalanced and unfair. because that half of the story is no story, it's fake news, it is just what was that it was. but trump just can't stomach crunched the complaint into two nasty words. before the rulers of the airwaves could mock mr. and mrs. jones on main street for their anger, it's hard to do that now that the guy on pennsylvania avenue and it's become the joneses' spokesman.
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it's no wonder in new media has been confessing out sins, they knew the jig was up. dana, was that surprising? >> dana: i give him credit for a few things, he could have tweeted this but he's not hiding in silicon valley. >> maybe he will come up maybe he will come sit with us here at "the five." i also thought it was interesting that he said he read gretz the decision to make twitter about adding more followers, and he wishes, and they are going to try to turn it around, that they will want to follow stories and hashtags and issues which would have been a very different thing in the beginning. >> i don't know if i would like that. >> i think they are also may be doing distress because it is a big hearing after labor day where twitter, facebook and google have to be in front of the senate.
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that's also the same day as the kavanaugh hearings. >> you are going to have a ball. do you have many followers on twitter? >> no not yet. >> one thing about twitter is not just to get followers so you can brag on "the five," but to be able to say, your huntington book review came by and -- >> would be better is to say that i will be at the villages on saturday. >> is not hypothetical or is that real? >> it's true. huntington was last week, don't get people confused. but he admits that his people lead to the left so he admits that that is playing a role in -- >> he says, we do not look at content with regard to political viewpoint or ideology, we look at behavior.
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>> he said he admits they have to continue to make sure there is no bias, but to me it looks like he can't control his employees. even if healings to the left, but once it is fair, and -- >> you've been a journalist -- i remember you in the 80s. but you have to admit, you knew that the newsroom was biased and it had to have some effect on what came out on the page. >> i guess it does, we could go back to the whole argument about peter strzok. it's like saying i work at fox, most people here are conservatives. and it results in bias from the greatness people, while i don't know, it could be. >> he said he didn't like trump. >> i'm just telling you -- >> i
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think the bigger thing with jack dorsey though, to my mind, or my perspective, he's the one guy that said, alex jones, for all your conspiracy theories, you can hang around. so apple, facebook, youtube and spotify, this guy is about hate speech and conspiracy theories and should not be given a platform. dorsey doesn't -- so what if some of his staff -- >> we just want equal treatment for all whack jobs. >> really distributing videos from the islamic state of murderers and beheadings, that's fine. because again, this went on and on, this is youtube and facebook, for years that they didn't police any of that content. we talk about alex jones in all of those technologies, and it
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raises the issue of these companies that have gotten way too big and the government stood by particularly with facebook with the acquisition of instagram and whatsapp, and they are asking for them to be broken up, quite frankly. the fact that they all acted somewhat in unison about that -- >> i don't actually have an opinion on this, do you think is good for the market, is that a good idea that these markets be broken up? >> and you avoid getting a concentration of power like this, but it's a free market and if conservatives don't like the way this beach is trending on twitter or facebook, anywhere across the internet, you are welcome to go out to another social media platform. >> can i ask for you to separate a conservative thought for someone like alex jones?
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well you have to defend the idiots -- the whole point is, the worst speech is what you protect. >> if you believe in free speech, it's tolerating the unacceptable. >> that's what i think. >> can you put the standards of the newspapers, we have all grown up with them, can we put that into social media? even if the unbiased person is trying to weed out right and wrong on facebook, and everything else, and -- do you think it's -- the biggest issue for that guy is realizing that he can't control it? >> i think they are all starting to realize that. it's like, we have created a monster. the village square once we were all connected, it was supposed to be utopia. >> they should have taken the
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opportunity, and that's the best thing for twitter. >> the problem is the fact that you can't target the sales of laundry detergent and pet food. that's how they express themselves on twitter. by the way, they would have gotten rid of all of those fake accounts years ago if they cared about anything but the bottom line. >> on that note, move over paternity and maternity leave. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪
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>> if you are a pet parent like i am -- high charlie! get ready for some puppy love. new dog and cat owners can now take time off from work to bond with their new for babies. a digital marketing company in minnesota is offering a policy that allows employees to work from home for a week after adopting a new animal. the company says pets are just as important to their workers families as human babies. and i know you totally agree with this, greg gutfeld.
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>> this is fantastic and i support them 100%. if i was running a business and someone called in for that, i would fire them on the spot. i would say, you stay home with your little baby and i'm going to hire somebody with no experience and train them myself. if they are hard workers, it won't pull that. get them away from being, i never want to see you again. >> let me paint the picture, it's a snowy day and connor mccarthy picks up the phone and calls his boss and says, i just got a new dog and i can't go into work. allison, one of the reasons she rose through the ranks i'm sure he said, why don't you stay home, connor. wait, i got a better idea. little ideas like that -- i've changed my mind. >> dogs make sourpuss' like you
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better. right? >> i -- this is my thing. this is what you get when you have an amazing economy. you are trying everything you can to make sure the workers that you have want to come work for you. so i'm like, i know, i have a great idea, we will give you a week off of basically working from home if you have a puppy. >> at least -- i wanted the dogs here. so at least -- >> this is what happens when you have a good economy, and if a company figures that this works best for them, you get to keep employees for it, and they have companies that allow you to bring dogs to work, and this is beyond, before our great economy. you have these high-tech companies, unbelievable. ping-pong massage at work. >> why do they do that?
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they want people to work there. >> they want the brightest young people who work 60 hours a day to stay at work. >> if it wasn't for the mrs. break we would be at msnbc right now. left >> i was shocked to find out that pet ownership has gone up 30% in the last five years and 60% of households have a dog in the family. and, -- there they are. >> i was here the morning that brought these dogs on the show. you have zero control over them. there was further from -- the basement of this building all the way up to the floor that we were on. you are a horrible dog parent. >> you know what, actually that's a great idea. fox and her. is it a one hour show? >> every weekend. >> i will say that i am for this
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infield? take a look at sister mary jo selby act of catholic high school, she threw the opening page of the white sox game and it was a perfect pitch. the white sox picture caught the ball and praise the sisters saying, she threw a perfect pitch. you have to throw like a girl sometimes. greg, your turn. >> greg: she threw a nun hitter. [laughs] it's a very exhausting, and what i found it best to do after a long flight is take a bath. here is a video of me getting a bath after a long red-eye flight last week. it's very nice to hang back and relax. >> at the hedgehog. >> do they really smell bad? >> they are adorable. >> while they are not cut away. >> all right --
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>> -- >> ? >> today is august 20th and i was surprised to find out it's the first day of school in d.c. take a look at my grandkids. eli is starting third grade, the girls are off to first grade. new shoes, fresh haircuts and sparkling backpacks. when i was a kid, school started after labor day in brooklyn, new york, but apparently the first day of school is different all across the country and it's getting earlier and earlier. and students are already in school. some of them started in late july, atlanta, phoenix and indianapolis, it seemed a little hot for school to me about it, you know what, welcome back. it's a new world. >> did you hear that? that none that we just showed a comfort she's going to be on "fox & friends" tomorrow. >> i think there's a duck takink
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here but i'm not getting in it. and my good friend tim green has a brand-new book out and he is the same tim green that has an outstanding broadcaster. and by the way, one of the best players syracuse university ever had, and, this is the type of thing that kids open up and they want to read it. and, pick up the big game. >> i think it ends happily. >> this ends happily, but earlier today, galbreath airport had to use a whiteboard and a megaphone after their i.t. system went down. airport blames a vodafone. everything is cleared up now but just imagine the utter pandemonium if this happened.
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>> air travel is going backward. set your dvr is a never miss another episode of "the five." i don't have anything else, so it's off to you, bret baier. >> president trump tries to pump up support for his immigration policy will continuing his collision investigation. pope francis apologizes profusely for the scandal. this is a "special report. >> bret: welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. president trump is in full attack mode tonight following another twitter offensive against the special counsel investigation. is also will ripping media reporting about cooperation between the investigators and his own white house counsel. john roberts starts us off tonight on the north lawn of the
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