♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we're in the business so we watch a lot television and noticed a theme. every day the organized left and the media tell us illegal immigrants aren't just equal to american citizens but superior. they work harder and more noble and deserving and have more interesting culture than you do, mr. whitebred and manned a and last year we got new numbers on the drug crisis. it's the worse in the history. more than 70,000 americans died of drug o.d.s in the last year. that's a shocking and horrifying

number. you may not be familiar because the press barely covered it. they don't care. it's just middle america dying. no big deal. if you watched tv the last few days you heard of a man called jole arrona lara who was arrested out of the blue by i.c.e. agent as he drove his wife to the hospital for a c-section. the media pounced. it was a moral atrocity typical of the trump years. cnn went on the attack before there was a comment on what happened. >> i want to let you know about this story regard new baby boy. he's not with his dad today because i.c.e. agent hauled his father away as his father was headed to in the hospital where the mother was scheduled for a c-section. >> the mother of five gave birth the same day her husband was

detained shortly after giving birth to her baby boy. while he's physically okay, this mother is living a nightmare. >> i.c.e. has not yet commented on this incident. >> tucker: living a nightmare. a made for television tragedy. it wasn't just cable news. the abc, cbs, others did exactly the same story. they presented it as a dystopian morality tale and it was summed up with this tweet, quote, o.m.f.g., i.c.e. detained a husband driving his live for a c section. the cruelty and inhumanity of this regime. she added an exclamation point at the end. last is why i.c.e. would want to arrest him in the first place. did they do it for a reason oar -- or ran out of puppies to

kick. >> this person was wanted for foreign authorities for murder and like this arrest, most of what i.c.e. does in cities and towns is targeted enforcement. this is a referral from interpol as a wanted person and did surveillance to find where they lived and when they left the home we made a vehicle stop. >> tucker: oh, murder. so the doting father was wanted for murder, homicide, killing someone in mexico. it turns out the mexican government asked the trump administration to find this man and still noble and de pressed. the kind of person the democratic party wants in your living hood soaking up the tax dollars. even after the murder charge became public they ran this headline, i.c.e. detained man driving his pregnant wife to a hospital. the murder part was buried in

the fifth graph of the outrage and growing anger towards i.c.e. after the administration's quote, sweeping immigration policies. that's what propaganda looks likes lying designed to manipulate rather than inform. you can tell how inconsistently it was applied. if you were arrested for murder driving hur -- your wife it would say hooray and a letter to manafort's family would have been enough but it was shock and awe. paul manafort is an american citizen. nobody think he's noble and neither will you if you were ever accused of getting something wrong, if only you were here illegally they'd defend you.

we are now joined tonight and do you think it's inhumane to defend a man wanted for murder for the mexican government. >> in deference i hope we can use perfect english. >> tucker: americans should use perfect english. is it racist now to say to speak english? >> wildly racist for -- >> tucker: language is -- so stupid. language is not a race. when our ancestors came here they were taught to teach english because language holds us together and the left which seeks to divide us says it's racist to say english. it's not. >> so when you introduce

somebody hispanic and can't speak perfect english -- >> tucker: i don't know. okay, trump is bad, okay. fine. but what's the answer to the question? so i.c.e. arrests somebody wanted for murder by the mexican government and it's heartless? how that's heartless? >> when joe kennedy said he wasn't aware this man was wanted for murder just like details matter when you talk about claim migration. it now involve melannia trump's trel -- relatives. >> tucker: why even after the new york times found out this guy was wanted for murder, the mexican government asked the trump administration to arrest him they didn't note that until paragraph five and made it about

the abuse at the hand of i.c.e. he suffered. why is that not propaganda? >> you'll have to take that up with the new york times. the fact is once we know the guy was wanted for murder, the facts changed. but again -- >> tucker: no, we always new -- hold on. the facts didn't change. the facts drove the event. he was accused of murder by the mexican government. the trump administration was asked to arrest him and did at the request of the mexican government. you could have known that if you'd asked i.c.e. and nobody did and the presumption was they had nothing to do today other than arrest people on the way to the birth of their child. it's insane. why didn't anyone ask? >> i don't know if that's a standard question if the person was wanted by murder on

interpol. >> tucker: american citizens are arrested tonight for not paying a stupid red light ticket, which i shouldn't have to, i would be arrested. they'll say you broke the law. american citizens don't get the presumption of innocence illegals do. >> the reason we're talking about this tucker is because the walls are closing in on the president and it's an issue he think he can make something of with his base. >> tucker: it's outrageous. we have the right to enforce our own laws. i don't think we should sit back and get invaded by foreigners. it doesn't make he racist. >> i'm sure there were times you reported there was mass outflow to mexico. >> tucker: mexico is one among many countries that sends its poor here. who cares about mexico. one third of all salvadorans

live in this country. one third live in america. it's not just mexico. let's not be silly here. we have the right to enforce our own laws don't we? >> there hasn't been the full reporting just like there hasn't been the full reporting of this fellow wanted for murder. nobody's talked about the fact that donald trump is talking about mexico funding the wall. >> tucker: i've mentioned it many times. richard, once we do you can stay, i promise. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. >> tucker: you're welcome. mark steyn is an author and columnist. who will run as a v.p. candidate for a democrat in 2020. why wouldn't it be an illegal alien accused of murder. that's a perfect distillation of what the party stands for right

now. >> that's absolutely right. by the way, for the red light tickets of yours i'm willing to rent you a pregnant illegal alien to sit in the passenger seat as you drive around washington, d.c. they're doing the jobs that americans won't do which is sitting in the passenger seat with you to serve as your pregnant passenger as you go around holding up liquor stores and all the rest. >> tucker: my pretext. look, i hate doing show after show after the faults of the press because in the end who cares, they're journalist. if they were smart they'd be in private equity but it's worth unpacking this for a second. to write a story about this and not mention he's wanted for murder until the fifth graph. isn't that just lying? >> i think it is but i think it's the sentimentalization of public policy which is what immigration is. it's no different from building

another runway at the airport or expanding the highway. it's a matter of public policy which we should be able to discuss rationally. for example, this couple had been illegally in the united states for 12 years. and they have five children so simply if you're playing the odds you have roughly whenever you pull them over, you've got roughly a 50/50 chance of them being pregnant. that's actually very demographically revealing of where california's headed. two people who shouldn't be in the country have five anchor babies in a country where the fertility is 1.75 children per couple. so actually this is california's future and it's actually a snapshot of where this insane sentimentalization of public policy has got us. when they say she's living a

nightmare, she's living a dream and has had five children at public expense for your viewers, for the sake of argument there are legitimate citizens and remaining that your viewers have paid for. that's the nightmare she's living. she's had five children at public expense married to an illegal husband who apparently works for a company that makes bouncy castles for children's parties and the only people who need them are families like this one with five anchor babies. this say -- is a snapshot. >> tucker: and don't complain or your immoral. mark, thank you. you'll be glad, i'm glad to report, in a second to discuss chelsea clinton's plans to run for office. up next though an nsa

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in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. ♪ >> tucker: well, since he lost his security clearance he should have never kept john brennan has almost described himself as a martyr the truth-teller being nailed to the cross by the president's wicked regime. we have a former technical director at the national security agency the nsa. in a recent interview he said they've become guards that lie to the press and president and even to each other. thank you for coming on. you're in a position to know which is why it's interesting to ask you this question, but do you think elected officials have full control over the intel agencies and they're constitutionally empowered to

fully control? >> no, they don't. once they close the doors everything's done in secret and only know what the intelligence agencies tell them. >> tucker: that's by definition an assault on our democracy, isn't it? >> it is. yes, they have no effective way for finding out and verifying what they're told is true. this is true for the fisa court too. as early as august of 2002, the fisa court discovered the fbi lied to them for over 75 warrants and have no way of verifying them. >> tucker: this is the nightmare veteran that liberals spent 30 years worrying about. i don't even know what those politics are, i don't care, but are you struck by an observer by the degree to which the media

has taken over intel bureaucrats over the public? >> well, i think they're doing that just to support the argument against president trump that they believe in. i, for myself, i refuse to join the growing numbers much mentally impaired people with emotional positions they can't change. >> >> huh. so do you think there's anyway to bring these agencies under some kind of democratic oversight? >> yes, but they have to be legislated. the congress -- we proposed to president obama in january 2014 one way to do that would be to have a set of technical people that would be responsible to the government and courts outside of the agencies but all the clearances to go into any intelligence agency and look at

any database and what they're doing with the data at any time to have carte blanche to do what they wanted but none of the agencies would accept that unless they're forced to. >> tucker: they're not in charge of our country, voters are. thank you. great to see you. for close to a year bruce orhr has ties to christopher steele and his wife worked for gps and but has been described as an obscure mid-level player and was in a top post. we're joined now with the weekly

standard. he's been described as a mi mid-level player by whom? >> they tried to downplay bruce ohr call him a mid-level employee at the department of justice calling him a nearly anonymous person in the 113,000 employees at the justice department. they doesn't mention he was one of the associate deputy attorney generals. there are always two associate deputy attorney generals who are career employees and then there are several who are political appointees. the career appointees which ohr was was the highest rank and bruce ohr was not a mid-level employee of the justice department. he had the single highest rank you could have as a career in

the justice department. he was frequently in press releases put out by the justice department. the notion that he's deep in the bureaucracy and has been pluck from obscurity by president trump is -- shows either "the new york times" doesn't know how the justice department is structured, which is unlikely, or they're being dishonest with thur -- their readers which would be shamefully. >> tucker: it's the high level a career employee can reach. have they correct the story? >> not that i've seen so far. >> tucker: that's unbelievable. when you pay close attention to a subject you know a lot about, does it drive you a little crazy? >> what's funny is they keep referring to bruce ohr as little known. he is little known if you read

"the new york times" or the washington post and was funneling will information long after christopher steele had been closed as a source for misbehavior and bruce ohr was collecting agent and the agents were on a nearly weekly basis writing up official 302 memorandum. those are official fbi memoranda they were writing up of the steele information ohr was bringing them. >> tucker: unbelievable. if our viewers knew all the details they'd trust the media even mreps -- less. >> tucker: thank you. >> tucker: big tech opposes free speech. that's become obvious in the last week.

john stossel has been targeted and joins with us the story.

>> if you care about the real america or if you don't it goes for every side. i don't like alex jones but he gets to speak. everybody gets to speak. >> tucker: alex jones gets to speak. well, on youtube, facebook, twitter and elsewhere, non-compliant voices being silenced, many of them and yet few institutions in washington is it are standing up to defend them. bill maher is one of the wear people willing to bravely stand up for an popular man which is

the measure of bravery. the president also entering the fray today saying quote, i won't mention names but when they take certain people off twitter or facebook and making that decision it's a dangerous thing because it could be you tomorrow. john stossel knows what it's like to be you when big tech targets you. youtube has been putting disclaimers on some of the videos. john stossel joins to us explain. disclaimers on your videos. you've been doing this for decades, making television that's controversial for decade and have you ever had a disclaimer? >> not not a disclaimer but a link to the wikipedia page for global warming. the other controversial stuff hasn't required a disclaimer but global warming stories do.

>> tucker: what are you said that youtube, google, believes is so unacceptable they need to flag it and warn viewers you're probably lying? >> this week when i discovered it was on mine i thought it was about me but they're putting it on everybody's posts that talk about global warming. decided this needs a link to the wiki pediapage but this page has been captured by the alarmists and it's very one-sided. >> tucker: what does it tell you when the people in charge don't allow dissent on a topic? why wouldn't they allow a free debate if they're so confident they're right? >> they're allowing the debate. they're not censoring. they're sending a signal this stossel guy may be misleading you about global warming and

check wikipedia. look, it's a public platform and so far they're only saying this is eye -- a notice. check out wikipedia. >> tucker: we'll put it up on the screen so give viewers a sense of what we're talking about. this a video about this show and it says global warming is the observed century scale rise in the average temperature of the earth's climate system and evidence shows the system is warming. it's like a cigarette smoking is bad for your bad warning on the pack and impacts how you enjoy each marlboro. it's how people look at your video. >> i just say it's warming but there's nothing we can do about it now and the money is wasted. i'm glad you put that picture up

because axios took a picture down but left yours up. >> tucker: so if have you question the cause of it or what we can do about it, we need to warn the public about you, you're dangerous. >> and anybody who talks about it, we better warn the public because wikipedia knows the answer and spin it in the way where all the models predict the correct warming when in fact they have. >> tucker: thank you and good luck. i believe you. america's trade war with china is heating up. a lot of former u.s. officials are taking china's side and getting rich doing it. it's not protecting our country though. why not? that's next.

>> tucker: well, china is working hard to overtake the united states as the most powerful country in the world and will define future generations remarkably not all americans are taking their country's side in this conflict. there are plenty of high-level american officials on china's payroll. for example, a trade representative from 1993 to 1996 and close adviser to president clinton and now then the board of a chinese smart tv manufacture. marco rubio and others fear they could be used to spy on americans. and a republican in virginia works as the lead lobbiest for a chinese video surveillance company. and even john boehner is a

pro-china lobbyist. you heard so and so is acting against american interest. have you a bipartisan collection of people working against american interest and that's okay in washington? how's that work? >> the operations have been extremely effective. they're literally buying up officials and have interests in china to do their bidding and very little is being done about it. we hear about russian influence operations. what china has been doing in the last 30 years is luge compared to what the -- huge compared to what the russians have done influencing the government and changed the american foreign policy towards china. >> tucker: and china has promise

to overtake the united states as the preeminent nation in the world. why's it socially acceptable for john boehner, god help him, to lobby openly on behalf of china. why doesn't anybody say what are you doing acting against america's interest? >> there was a narrative through successive republican and democratic administrations that china was not a threat. china said look, the emperor has no clothes, china say threat and not just -- is a threat and it's not just officialer officials and the like. they're going after former military officials. there's an sania initiative launch admiral billow -- bill

owens and he formed this organization of former military officials who lobbied congress and the administration to do china's bidding. >> tucker: that's so deeply corrupt we're going to follow-up and i hope you're back to tell us more about it. that's shocking. >> thank you. >> tucker: the trump administration in less than two years turned the american left into resistance. how'd that happen? ann coulter has a new book on the subject and joins us next.

>> tucker: we've come now to the quiz portion of tonight's show. the game is simple. we're going play two pieces of video both from msnbc over the weekend. you watch them and tell us who's dumber. the first comes from preacher

without a church al sharpton. he once worked as james brown's read manager and knew arena franklin well. >> in the words of my late friend arena franklin show some r-e-s-p-i-c-t. >> tucker: he doesn't have much of a formal education and started touring and never learn to spell simple words and recently makes verbs out of thin air and if you watch his show you know he doesn't read the teleprompter and on the other hand ann coulter has written a

couple books one attacking cr crit -- christianity and if you were in journalism and got 100% on every test they gave you should be michelle goldberg. here's what she said on msnbc. >> this is the most vocal president in real time we've had in recent memory he's the leader of the free world. >> no, he's not. >> he's not, sorry. he's part of a bloc that includes putin and doterte. >> tucker: so who's dumber? it's not really close and not the guy who can't special respect. he's not stupid. that's why he's been able to game our system for so long but michelle goldberg isn't gaming our system, she is our system. that's why her comments and countless like hers are

fascinate. a ruling class loses control in the presence of trump. it becomes clinically hysterical. what a normal person finds embarrassing they find existentially threatening. it doesn't even make sense. what's that about? the short answer is trump terrifies them. their main talent is glibness and obedience. that's what the system requires lemming like reform ti -- reformity. they know they're not impressive and it worries them. instead of trying to become more impressive and useful, they maintain their rule by bullying even as they place themselves outside the bounds of criticism. it's been gay deal for them and -- been a good system and then donald trump showed up and started saying unforbidden thing

and they're afraid because they know they're guilty and watched the country decline as they've ascended. they know what they've done and understand exactly how much they have to lose by changing the way things are and why they're yelling so loudly. ann coulter wrote a new book called resistance is futile. how the trump-hating left lost its mind. we're honored to be the first stop horn book tour. it's great to see you. what did you find looking forensically looking at the anti-trump book. >> you describe the never-trumpers beautifully. with the left they hate deplorables they hate the walmart and able to attack

middle class and at the bottom of it they think he's icky and go on and on about an existential crisis in america and russian collusion without allowing anyone else in their closed set so even smarter people become crazier and crazier and are rewarded for being crazy as john brennan and clapper and comey were. at one point it was the left who wanted to chop those three up and feed them to the dogs. and all they had to do was start sending unhinged tweets as john brennan has and suddenly he's a hero. i go through in my book not only all the lies brennan has told and why he was hated and for good reason as head of the cia and constantly lying and left hating them and then started

sending tweets about trump being treasonist and then got deep credibility from cnn, suddenly it's a cinderella story. >> tucker: the group that the left hates most the middle-class is also the group doing the most poorly. as the dying and shrinking. its life expectancy has declined. why don't they feel sorry for the middle class? >> they're hatred of trump has caused them to lose all reason. both political parties would state they cared about the working man and both liberal

parties used to attack the concept of anchor babies and illegal aliens and aliens committing crimes. you do worry -- trump has it hit uncanny ability to raise issues americans care about but now it's to the point where my governor said america wasn't ever great. if that's what he's driving them to part is that's what their base, or a large portion of their base wants. but i really wish we could sit down liberals and ask, i mean, i'm not a waitress at wendy's but i care about my fellow american, why don't they? >> i don't know the answer but i do agree it seems like trump, among other things, has totally corroded their own standards. they'll say anything. you could make a case against

trump but they don't. >> if the resistance were smart i think they'd read my book and attack trump on the stuff he's actually done. as it a buffet don't keep bring your own food to the buffet. as the plenty to attack but the stories get crazier and crazier and as luck has it i don't have a job and go through netflix and see the insane contradictions of saying the dossier is proved. we know it's true because it was used to get a fisa warrant and on carter page and 10 months later we found out it was hillary clinton funded research and where did you get the information it was used against carter page and i have the quotes side by side.

>> tucker: i read you're column and you're a brilliant writer. i think people who disagree with you would agree with that. i hope the book sells out tomorrow. >> thank you for having me on. >> tucker: it's an honor. mark steyn rejoins us after the break to discuss something nobody in america wants to talk about the possibility of more clinton running for high office. stay tuned.

♪ >> tucker: increasingly this is a divided nation, fewer and fewer things bind us together but if there's one thing most americans can still agree on, it's that it's time for the clinton dynasty to sunset finally. that of course is probably not going to happen. last year chelsea clinton said she didn't want to run for office. nobody believed her and it turns out all of us were right. now she says she is "a definite maybe" to run for office. what does that mean for the rest of us? mark steyn rejoined us with his view.

do you think she's going to do it, and for what office and under what pretext? >> i think we can all agree, as you are talking about with ann a couple of minutes ago, that the real message of the 2016 election is that americans want a permanent hereditary political class drawn from the same three or four families. and 25 years of the clintons isn't enough. if you go and see a bill clinton speech where he is getting a seven-figure sum from a couple of saudi princes to give a speech on diarrhea in africa, the cheers are rocking the room. if it's not chelsea, andrew cuomo, who says america has never been great because not enough cuomos are in public life, or joseph patrick, kennedy the seventh. if it's not one of those -- i dream that one day they will get

together and george bush will marry chelsea and unite forever the house of clinton, bush, rodham got there and we can all live as one. >> tucker: you are just jealous because you never worked at mckinsey or went to stanford. chelsea was like a high level hedge fund person for a couple months. >> and then she said she went to the clinton foundation because she realized that money wasn't important to her. it's easy to say when you gave seven-figure speeches about diarrhea in africa. >> tucker: i think she was living in the widest apartment in new york city valued at $10 million when she said she didn't carry about money. great to see you as always. thank you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: sadly it's over. we could go on forever but we are time-limited. tune in tomorrow night to the show that the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and

groupthink. all of which are in overabundance. they want to automate everything, including the way you think. don't let them. have a great evening in spite of all that. sean hannity is up next. we will turn it over to him a few seconds earlier. >> sean: great show. busy breaking news night. it's all over the place tonight. for well over a year, he has targeted president trump and everyone around him. just look at paul manafort, michael cohen. anything to do with russia? after 460 days, mueller has found literally zero evidence of trump-russia collusion. zero. the president is rightly calling out it's been nice to atone for what it is. this is now a national disgrace. in moments, we'll have an important on two individuals that are caught up in a special counsel's fishing expedition. paul manafort, now being tried on an old bank fraud charge and a trump campaign volunteer, george papadopoulos, who pled