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overabundance. they want to automate everything, including the way you think. don't let them. have a great evening in spite of all that. sean hannity is up next. we will turn it over to him a few seconds earlier. >> sean: great show. busy breaking news night. it's all over the place tonight. for well over a year, he has targeted president trump and everyone around him. just look at paul manafort, michael cohen. anything to do with russia? after 460 days, mueller has found literally zero evidence of trump-russia collusion. zero. the president is rightly calling out it's been nice to atone for what it is. this is now a national disgrace. in moments, we'll have an important on two individuals that are caught up in a special counsel's fishing expedition. paul manafort, now being tried on an old bank fraud charge and a trump campaign volunteer, george papadopoulos, who pled guilty to lying to the fbi.
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his wife is here with us tonight and she thinks he should withdraw that plea, and he might. also tonight, we will expose the media's false moral outrage over security clearances. it has nothing to do with free speech. and the president's decision, which was right, to strip john brennan of his top-secret access. he's now threatening to sue the administration. a move i hope he takes. in fact, take it. take the legal action. i can't wait for that discovery, unless of course he used bleach bit and a hammer. more on that coming up. all the latest examples of what the the left's disgusting rhetoric. forget about they go low, we go high. it's just the opposite. sit tight, buckle up. it's time for tonight's breaking news opening monologue. ♪ >> sean: joseph stalin's secret police chief once famously proclaimed "show me the man, i will show you the crime." those are chilling words and the opposite of how the american justice system is supposed to operate. our system is designed to prosecute crimes, not persecute individuals we disagree with.
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we live in a constitutional republic. we are supposed to have equal justice under the law and the equal application of our laws. tonight in the united states this is all in jeopardy. after more than 15 months of intensive investigations surrounding one man, the president of the united states, more and more americans rightly are realizing that mueller's seemingly never ending witch hunt is not only damaging the country, but it is rocking our system of justice to its very core. and following "the new york times"'s so-called bombshell report that the white house attorney, the president's attorney, white house counsel don mcghan is cooperating, the president tweeted this "disgrace discredited bob mueller and as whole group of angry democratic thugs spent over 30 hours with the white house counsel, only with my approval, for the purposes of transparency. anybody needing that much time when they know there is no
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russia collusion is just someone looking for trouble. they are enjoying ruining people's lives and refused to look at the real corruption on the democratic side. the lies, the firings, the deleted emails, and so much more. mueller's angry democrats are looking to impact the election, a national disgrace." so far 25 top fbi doj officials have either been fired, demoted, or resigned. wow. newt gingrich is out with a brand-new op-ed. it raises this important point. "it couldn't be more clear if the trump white house was comfortable talking for 30 hours with a pack of high-powered, very tough minded investigators because the president has done nothing wrong." my sources say, by the way, this took place over a period of time a while ago and according to a brand-new report from "the washington post" mcghan does not believe he implicated trump in legal wrongdoing and special counsel interviews, tells the president's legal team. four months team the mueller has tried to unsuccessfully turn the
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screws on multiple individuals only because of their association with trump. in other words, we are criminalizing political differences. they wanted something, anything they could use to get the president and instead of finding evidence of any russian collusion, team mueller was only able to strong-arm their way to a couple of guilty pleas, lying to investigators, but the fbi didn't think they lied. 2005 tax fraud case. paul manafort. nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with russia, nothing to do with the campaign, nothing to do with trump. we are reading about today michael cohen and taxicabs. here's what you need to understand. no mueller and neither of these men michael cohen or paul manafort would have to deal with this. no russia, no collusion, no campaign, no trump involvement. we will have a lot more of that
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coming up throughout the hour. but we do have new information surrounding one of those guilty pleas, george papadopoulos. he was the one time volunteer foreign policy advisor for the trump campaign. this guy is facing up to six months in jail. again, lying to the mueller investigation. according to a report, byron york, it appears papadopoulos, who was in his 20s, not only played a small role in the campaign. i followed this campaign closely. i had never heard of him. but also played a small role in mueller's ongoing witch hunt. papadopoulos has not been charged with any crime related to russia collusion, campaign conspiracy, but his life is now turned upside down. and just like manafort and others, it looks like michael cohen, we will have plenty more on that story, his wife will join us tonight. now let's turn to another update from the mueller target ball manafort jury deliberations still underway. three full days now in the 2005 bank fraud case. the media is now looking at this as the trial of the century. it's not. manafort facing counts and a potential life in prison over charges that have nothing to do with russia, collusion, the campaign or donald trump.
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see a pattern here? manafort, papadopoulos, others. they have just become pawns, really just pawns, in robert mueller's effort to take down the president. they wouldn't be in any trouble if these people were not associated with donald trump. if mueller didn't exist. so you see where this is going. as judge ellis noted during manafort's trial, mueller is clearly turning the screws, in this case on manafort, so that him to flip into either sing or compose. of course robert mueller is just picking up or his fellow deep state sycophant john brennan left off. for months we reported on brennan's abuse of power and specific allegations that as a the cia director he disseminated hillary's dirty russian dossier throughout the federal government and tonight sara carter has a brand-new report detailing congressional allegations that brennan may have been responsible now for getting the dossier to then senator harry reid who then
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subsequently released in detail to the public vis-a-vis a letter to james comey. brennan of course is denying these claims. we also called out his recent conspiracy paddling about a sitting u.s. president during his time as a "msnbc conspiracy theorist hack" and last week president trump script is security clearance, rightfully so. the cia, please pay attention, policy is clear. it says this. in the case of former cia directors, the agency hold their security clearance. they renew it every five years for the rest of their lives. however -- this is the important part, the however part. that requires former cia directors to behave like current cia employees. you mean, like, calling the president a traitor and accusing him of being compromised by russia? and all sorts of bizarre conspiracies that they paddle over at msnbc? brennan was obviously in
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violation of that policy. it's not in question. he actually accused of sitting president of treason and worse. he's used his status to legitimize what are absurd conspiracy claims about donald trump on national tv. even fellow trump-hater james clapper, even too much for him. he questioned the level of his daily vitriol. take a look. >> do you think that john brennan's hyperbole is an issue here, one of the reasons we are having this crisis? >> i think it is. i think john is sort of like a freight train and he's going to say what's on his mind. i think that the common denominator among all of us that have been speaking out is genuine concern about the jeopardy or threats to our institutions and values. and although we may express that in different ways. i think that's what this really
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is about but john and his rhetoric have become an issue in and of itself. >> sean: even clapper says it. a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, retired admiral michael mullen also criticized his rhetoric, calling it damaging to the intel community. i will take it a step further, and the country. take a look. >> john is an extraordinary servant of the country, but i think he has been incredibly critical of the president and i think that has put him in a political place which actually does more damage for the intelligence community, which is apolitical, even as he's retired. so i really don't support him being as critical of the president as he has been. >> sean: the admiral did not endorse trump's decision to strip brennan's clearance. reasonable people have reasonable disagreements, but it is clear, his rhetoric alone is not fitting of a current cia
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employee. he's now threatening to sue the trump administration. this i beg happens. sue. please. take a look. >> i have been contacted by a number of lawyers and have already given me their thoughts about the basis for a complaint, an injunction, to try to prevent him from doing this in the future. if my clearances and my reputation as i'm being pulled through the mud now, if that's the price we are going to pay to prevent donald trump from doing this against other people, to me it's a small price to pay. so i'm going to do whatever i can personally to try to prevent these abuses in the future. and if it means going to court, i will do that. >> sean: go. i would love to see that discovery unless he uses bleach bit and hammers. give us the perfect opportunity to see what's going on inside all of this. by the way, in terms of corruption -- and by the way, malignant efforts to literally
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impact a presidential election, let's get it all exposed. the people need to know. today president trump mocked his hollow threats. he tweeted "i hope john brennan, the worst cia director in our country's history, will bring a lawsuit. it will be very easy to get all of his records, text, emails and documents to show not only the poor job he did, but how he was involved with the mueller rigged witch hunt. he won't sue." i don't think you will either. whether or not he actually does, he's just one of many former ranking government officials who leverage their special security status for financial gain. in fact, it pays to have a security clearance. upon leaving office what we have discovered on this show and is actually a new book out, we will break it all tomorrow. many high-ranking officials use their special status to gain lucrative offers from government contractors and others seeking their expertise. meanwhile over at fake news cnn, proud [bleep] holder himself
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phil mud is profiting off his security clearance. he's paid at cnn, a complete meltdown when he was challenged over what is a lucrative practice among many that have top security clearances, not saying him, millions of dollars. take a look. >> when i am requested to sit on an advisory board, let me ask you one question, how much do you think i'm paid to do that at the request of the u.s. government? give me one answer and you've got ten seconds. how much? >> i will ask you a question. how much are you paid -- >> answer the question! i have no contracts with the u.s. government that pay money. when you have a security clearance -- >> zero relationships with the private sector that involve my security clearance, zero! i get $0 from consulting companies that deal with u.s. government. are we clear? >> i will be clear in saying that everybody in washington, d.c., knows if you don't want to be honest about it, that's on you, but if you have a security clearance and you keep it you get more money
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to have it. >> we are done, get out! >> phil, this is not your show. >> [bleep]! get out! ten seconds, get out! >> sean: jim comey. we will talk about him tomorrow. what if i told you that there are people who have security clearances and got paid by lockheed martin, $6 million, just pulling that out of thin air. we will have a full report tomorrow. we are not saying phil mudd is involved in this in any way. we are not even saying it's nefarious but we are seeing people with security clearances, there is a money trail. and by the way, tomorrow night we will have a full investigation, a "hannity" investigation investigating the investigators, follow the money. "hannity" investigation. back in 2013 mainstream media was largely silent when the obama administration did the whole same thing on a much larger scale. a blatant media double standard. but as we get closer and closer to the most important midterm elections of our life, you've got to expect this coverage is going to get more insane day by day, minute-by-minute.
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for example, conspiracy tv msnbc, one panelist even suggested the president wanted to round up people and murder them. conspiracy. take a look. >> your argument that he's not the leader of the free world because not standing up for democracy -- >> he's a sort of junior player in a block of authoritarian countries. >> and the people like the european union are no longer looking at him as a leader any longer. >> of course not. he's instead -- he's part of a block that includes vladimir putin, duterte. he's kind of a part of an axis of power. >> it's worse than that in a certain way. not that that's the worst thing you could have said, that's about the worst thing you could say about him. >> he's not rounding people up and murdering them without any due process. >> he would certainly like to. >> sean: "he would like to." and it goes on and on. if a conservative said that
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about obama, here come the boycotters. here they come. meanwhile professional trump hater and an old friend, actually like steve, is trashing trump supporters, kind of does it every day now. take a look. >> his base is smaller, the republican party is smaller, but it is more faithful and more intense in its loyalty to trump and 40% of the country has surrendered their intellectual sovereignty to donald trump. there is for them no such thing as objective truth anymore. what is true is what the leader says is true. what the leader believes is true. and trump has exercised that power and 40% of the country have submitted themselves to it. >> sean: a little over-the-top. the rhetoric is even worse in the democratic party. one congressman, old friend of the show, so-called joking about what? drowning president trump in the potomac. if you don't want this man and the democratic party taking control of your congress, blocking the present, you
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voted for his agenda and putting an end to the all-important deep state investigations, you want open borders, obamacare, you want to give them your crumbs back and everything in between, then don't go out and vote in november in the midterms, don't take it seriously. it's not like our democratic republic is hanging in the balance or anything. breaking just moments ago during an interview with reuters, the president said he is concerned that an interview with a special counsel could actually be a perjury trap. i could not agree more. they are going to say you disagree with your lawyer? what rudy was saying yesterday, i think he could have been a little bit more articulate when he said the truth is not the truth, let's say mcghan says one thing, the president says another thing, guess who decides which version they want to believe? that would be mueller and weissmann. jeannie rhee and the rest of them. not a good idea. joining is now fox news contributor sara carter. we have her breaking story, the author of three weeks in a row the number one "new york times"
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best seller "the russian hoax: the illicit clear hillary clinton" fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett, the president should not talk to them. we've said this over and over again. i don't think any lawyer should allow it and the idea that don mcghan spent 30 hours there, 30 hours, is incomprehensible to me, but it does serve, we do know what the president said and that's it. anything else will be a perjury trap. >> that's right. just look how mike flynn was treated by bob mueller. he's a guy who told the truth according to the fbi agents who interviewed him. >> sean: slow down, wait a minute, lieutenant general flynn, great point, tells the truth, believed to be the truth by even peter struck an james comey and he got charged with and admitted to lying to the fbi. >> it shows you how unscrupulous and how unprincipled bob mueller and his team of partisans are. i bet that papadopoulos probably told the truth to the best of his knowledge.
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he was a bit player. >> sean: probably scared. >> probably scared. >> sean: he was young. >> he was 30 years old at the time. probably went in there without a lawyer. it's never a good idea to lie to the fbi. but papadopoulos is an interesting character. i spend a subchapter in the book about him. it was never the papadopoulos bar talk that triggered the trump-russia collusion hoax. >> sean: it says on page what? >> i will give you the page. it was a rumor that he heard that he passed along. >> sean: the media lied about that. >> that wasn't the trigger because that couldn't possibly be probable cause to launch an investigation. it was the dossier that john brennan was the instigator of. he latched onto it and he peddled it on capitol hill and leaked into the media. >> sean: last question and i
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will get to sara's column on that very topic. would paul manafort be investigated but for the fact that he worked for trump? would michael cohen have had to go through all -- they are talking about his taxicabs medallions in new york, it's a long story. they are not talk about anything about collusion, russia, the campaign or trump. >> that's right. >> sean: are they being persecuted or prosecuted? >> they are being persecuted, no doubt about it. >> sean: singled out. >> the tax division actually investigated for years paul manafort and they came to the conclusion that there wasn't sufficient evidence to bring charges. >> sean: three days in, 18 charges, 95% conviction rate in federal courts. if he gets off he will be the 5%. >> but good luck with unlimited resources and the power of the federal government. >> sean: his life is over. sara, let's go very keenly to this whole issue and this gets to the heart of brennan and
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you actually spoke to his former spokesperson. let's talk about what you found as it relates to harry reid leaking the dossier. >> so brennan's former spokesperson deputy chief of staff nick shapiro told me that brennan in no way at any point in time during the summer of 2016 had access to the dossier. and he said that he didn't find out about the dossier. actually the contents of the dossier until december 2016. >> sean: is he lying? >> according to a number of people that i've spoken with there's a lot of concern about what brennan is saying because they know for a fact that director comey was already aware that reid was going to be sending a letter. brennan meets with reid and the gang of eight briefings on august 25th. two days later, he writes the letter. two days after that, on august 29th, it's leaked to "the new york times." so there's a coincidence here. a sequence of events that happened that they need to investigate. >> sean: my little birdie friends -- i know i'm only a talk show host and we don't do
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investigative reporting, although we've beaten everybody as it relates to the story -- that was by the way targeted at people who know who they are. i just want to say isn't there an email chain that might prove this point? >> there's actually a sequence of emails that people want to obtain and this is why congress -- this is why judicial watch and others are suing for brennan's communications as well as comey's and reid's. >> sean: the fact he did do this and he's lying about that stuff? is that what your birdies are telling you because that's what my little birdies are telling me. >> there are birdies out there that do believe that but i think we need to see those facts before we go that far. but i do believe that's why they are looking for him. >> sean: last word. >> brennan actually testified before congress and in the summer of 2016, he knew about alleged trump-russia collusion so his lawyer's recently belied
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the truth. >> sean: great work the last three weeks, great reporting, sara. a lot of news to get to tonight. when we come back, george papadopoulos' wife about major new developments concerning her husband. will he back out of the deal with mueller? we will get reaction also, jim jordan, where are those subpoena documents? next. ♪ -looks great, honey. -right? sometimes you need an expert. i got it. and sometimes those experts need experts. on it. [ crash ]
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we cover commercial vehicles, too. this wi-fi is fast. i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. ♪ >> sean: ♪ >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." the special counsel has recommended up to six months in jail for former trump campaign aide george papadopoulos. following this news, george papadopoulos' wife sent out george wasn't cooperative enough in mueller's recommendation, he cooperated for a year, he helped his country. he's been loyal to the truth, not to anybody's agenda. his cooperation is considered
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pointless as it didn't reveal any wrongdoing by the campaign. just hours ago papadopoulos himself tweeted been a hell of a year, decisions.pa joining is now the wife of george papadopoulos. welcome to the program. i've been watching from afar, can you give us any insight into your husband's tweet, decisions? >> as i said, it's been very difficult for george and i who suffered this prison time lasting for far too long considering that mueller apparently considered his cooperation worthless. i think the real progress of the investigation was not -- we know today's having ties, no ties with russia. there was no evidence to lead to this conclusion.g it was about, do you communicate
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this information to anyone in the campaign? basically obsession was not about that, but about revealing any wrongdoings in the campaign. as i wrote in my tweet, george was loyal to the truth. he could not of course lie to please mueller's agenda. that's basically why he was not satisfied. but there are too many nonsense in his case. >> sean: i want to say one thing. i give you a lot of credit. i like that you are fighting for your husband. i also see the injustice that you see in this case. are you saying in no uncertain terms this really wasn't the stuff, when he worked with mueller, they just didn't give him what mueller was looking for so now he's going be punished? >> that's my understanding and i strongly suggest this conclusion. otherwise i don't understand first of all why the sentencing would be postponed for months. he has been in prison for onein year.
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he has a lot of restriction, mostly to contact anyone working directly or indirectly in the campaign, not having access to his professional network that tried in any possible way to obstruct his life. not to travel, restriction to travel even within the united states. there are lots of situations that are jeopardizing. but there are also other aspects of that. legally, very scary. if that's why i suggested to drop the plea agreement and invite robert mueller to show the evidence against him. only recently he filed a motion to suppress the evidence against george. >> sean: i'm just trying to get to one point. and i know obviously this is now throwing your entire family into chaos and it seems like anybody associated with trumo, this is what they do and they don't seem to care. this impacts real people, realal lives, like yours and your
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husband's. here's my next and last question, will your husband withdraw his plea with robert mueller? >> we are discussing now the possibility and the technicalities behind this possibility with lawyers. we have meetings tomorrow, some lawyers reached out to me for my tweet. we were looking for further assistance and further legal opinions. many of them, two of them in particular, highly qualified, have suggested there is a case. this plea agreement is even difficult to uphold in the context of a trial by the judge. it's against the rule of law in many ways. there are many things happened that is completely against the law. starting with george's arrest in washington, d.c., it was notea were presented by a lawyer, it was intimidating.ea there were no legal reasons fori
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arresting him. >> sean: he was intimidated. >> completely. it was very violent and unnecessary from a legal point of view. they could communicate theom charge in a normal way to his lawyer. he was were presented by lawyers in chicago at the time. l and they didn't detain him more than one day in jail, just to give him a little taste, and then let him go to negotiation. george was set up. this case is manufactured to justify the mueller investigation, the conversation -- it happened in may 2016 and he was interviewed in january 2017. after six months at the fbi, already used the fisa order to issue warrants on many people in the campaign. so how to justify the original investigation, why george papadopoulos came up as a little player -- >> sean: let me just say a last thing. and for those that don't think there's a perjury trap for donald trump, look at your life
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and your husband's life. look at lieutenant generale flynn's life and what happened to him. they didn't even think he was lying. i wish you a lot of luck with your lawyers in this. i know it's hard. thank you for sharing your story. joining us now with more reaction, ohio congressman jim jordan.y would paul manafort, michael cohen, george papadopoulos, any of them, what any of them be in any issues today but for robert mueller going well beyond no trump, no russia, no collusion. it not even campaign issue. and this is where we are and you can even get the documents you've subpoenaed. >> right. and gregg jarrett is exactly right. the main issue is the dossier, not mr. papadopoulos, not these other things that we are hearing about. understand this. bruce ohr's wife worked for the firm hired by the clintons to produce the dossier and four weeks ago in a congressional hearing peter strock said the fbi got the dossier from bruce
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ohr. it is not supposed to work that way. so that's the key. we need to get bruce ohr in there next week and ask him all kinds of questions, like who was he giving the dossier to? who received it at the fbi? who was the person he handed it to? did sally yates or rod rosenstein knew what he was up to when he was meeting with them these numerous times? lots of important questions. that's the real focus. all this other stuff is off on the side.ea the real focus is that dossier because that's what they used to get the warrant to spy on the trump campaign. >> sean: when we get the dossier and the 302s, what are we going to learn, because my sources are telling me that it was all about the dossier as the memo, the grassley-graham memos have said, all of it, no dossier, mccabe said it. if there would have been no fisa warrant. and you look at the tactics of mueller. why is this manafort trial going on? why did this come out of the special counsel? and the same can be said -- now we're reading about michael cohen and taxicabs.
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not about russia, not about collusion, not about the campaign. and we do know real crimes were committed. real russian influence. >> the heart of this, the clinton campaign paid the law firm who paid fusion gps who paid christopher steele who talked to russians to putho together a dossier that was fake, fraudulent that they took to a secret court, didn't tell the court who paid for it, got the warrant to spy on the other campaign. that's the real issue with that dossier. >> sean: are there emails that show brennan leaking this information? >> it looks like it. i don't know for sure.ks but it looks like he leaked it to harry reid and then you go down this list of people who should lose their clearance and there's all kinds of problems. l >> sean: 25 top fbi dojce officials that have either been fired, demoted, resigned. top people, not rank-and-file. thank you, jim jordan. rudy giuliani warning mueller is
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trying to meddle in the 2018 elections.ue alan dershowitz, andy mccarthy next. ♪
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along with judge jeanine pirro's book and gregg jarrett book. the three of them are all worth a great read.t alan dershowitz. good to see you both. let me begin with you, andy mccarthy, on your piece. if the lawyer gives them 30 hours, the white house counsel, the president goes in. remember, george papadopoulos, h lieutenant general flynn lying and the fbi didn't think that flynn was lying. papadopoulos is basically a nonplayer kid in all of this. why would the president think anything but a perjury trap awaits him? >> i think that that is obviously what the problem is for him here. we have a history of this investigation where one person remembers something one way, somebody else remembers it a different way. the same thing happened with general flynn. first they decide he'she telling the truth. then they decide that he's not. 30 hours of conversation about
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what the president was saying and what he was thinking in connection with the very actions that mueller is looking into. if the president were to go in and submit to an interview, if he remembers anything differently from the way that his attorney remembers it, the white house counsel, then theyay have a conflict and as i've tried to point out, those who say that an innocent person doesn't have anything to worry about or an honest person doesn't have anything to worry about speaking to a prosecutor, are nuts because it's the prosecutor, not the honest person, who decides whether you are being honest or not. >> sean: let's be clear, when rudy said this weekend, and i. would argue it's inarticulate, "the truth is not the truth," what he was clearly saying was i would argue legal jargon. as a former prosecutor, he knows well that you are going to have don mcghan has one story, the president says one thing that's different, the person that willt decide what is the truth will be the special counsel that we all know is predisposed against
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donald trump. that is clear as day what he meant. inarticulate, but he's right. >> yeah, that's the point he's. trying to make. it's the prosecutor who is the arbiter of the truth and thatte doesn't mean the prosecutor is right. it just means that's the way the system is set up. >> sean: and professor dershowitz, i've got to get you to weigh in here. why would the white house counsel ever give them 30 hours? >> i think originally the original plan of the trump defense team was to cooperate in the hope that the investigation would quickly end. that hope has been dashed, but going back to rudy giuliani, i have an article today in which i say when the truth isn't the truth, making exactly the same point that andy made, a pointe that i've been making now for three months, that in order to fall into a perjury trap, all you need is one witness who contradicts one statement that the person says to the prosecutor.
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that witness can be somebody who is singing, composing, who has flipped, who has a deal, who's been told either you are going to die in prison or you are going to tell us what we want to hear and any defense lawyer who would ever walk a client into a perjury trap under those circumstances has to have hiss license reconsidered. >> sean: let me ask you a question i was asking gregg earlier, and that is this. would paul manafort be prosecuted now, but for all this, nothing to do with russia, no collusion. nothing to do with trump,h nothing to do with the campaign. the same goes for general flynn he and the same goes for papadopoulos and the same really goes for michael cohen. isn't that true? that this is selective prosecution, or what you call the criminalization of political differences? >> you don't have to ask me that question, ask judge ellis, who is presiding over the manafort case. he has stated publicly that the special counsel is not
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interested in manafort's alleged crimes. they are only interested in squeezing him in order to get him to flip and to either sing or compose. those are words used by judge ellis against the president. >> sean: so well said. >> the same is true of cohen. medallions, what does medallions have to do with the scope of the special investigation? they are investigating him in the southern district of new york but they are clearly cooperating with the special counsel. the goal of all of this it is to squeeze these people. >> sean: andy, we will give it the last word. i'm really beginning to have more problems than i ever thought with our criminal justice system.m. a guy that is facing 100 years, a key witness in the manafort case.a really? it sounds like a form of bribery to me. >> i think part of the reason the jury may be having trouble with the case is the way it was teed up for them. mueller makes a deal with gates, who basically gets to walk for the same conduct, manafort may
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spend the rest of his life in jail on. i'm glad conservatives are finally seeing the light on this. >> sean: you were right, i was wrong. tomi lahren next. ♪ y when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today. jushis local miracle ear t at helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it
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♪ >> sean: our own tomi lahren hit the streets of los angeles to find out what people really know about socialism. watch this. ♪ >> are you familiar at all with a little thing called socialism? >> yes. >> what do you think about it?ng >> i love it. >> what you love about it? >> i like to socialize with everybody. >> not socialize. socialism. >> not sure what socialism is.
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>> it's basically an economic system where everybody is equal. there is no rich and the poor.oo >> kind of like what cuba does. >> i'm not quite so clear on these definitions. i think it's important that this isn't just every man for himself. >> i don't know. socialism has worked in some places, other places -- >> where? i'm still trying to find where w socialism has worked. >> do know the difference between a democrat and a socialist? >> no. >> how do you feel about socialism? >> it's great. i just got back from four years in europe. free health care, good schools, it's wonderful. >> a recent poll just came out saying that democrats now view socialism more favorably than they view capitalism. what are your thoughts? >> it doesn't make any sense. socialism is ridiculous. >> i'm for it. >> you are for socialism? >> i am for it. >> why? >> i think everybody should have a fair opportunity for health care. >> does fair mean free? >> fair remains free. >> do you hear any of your friends talk about socialism?
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>> nope. >> you don't talk about politics at all? >> nope. >> do you know who bernie sanders is? he believes in socialism. are you a bernie sanders supporter? >> i don't like donald trump, so [bleep], why not? >> anything not donald trump is okay? >> yeah. >> there are some who think it's okay. you think that's going to happen?pp >> i do not think it's going to happen. i think capitalism is fantastic. it gives every american an opportunity to earn an income. >> thank you so much, have a great day, good to see you.po >> sean: two people got it right. two. here with reaction, author of the brand-new book "why we fight," national security strategist dr. sebastian gorka and former secret service agent and nra tv contributor dan bongino, whose brother i met today, much better looking and smarter than him. i'm just teasing.
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doctor, let's start with you. what's your reaction to that? the cut because that is the modern democratic party. >> it's stunning. we are both old enough to remember november 9th, 1989, where thanks to the good officers of ronald reagan, margaret thatcher, and st. john paul ii the captive people of east germany with their own hands took down the berlin wall. we fight communism, socialismm had had a stake driven through his heart. but it's like those zombies and those horror movies. it's coming back. and these people don't know. ocasio-cortez, bernie sanders don't know that lenin and marx said socialism is just the way point on the way to communism. communism is the objective of socialism is what he said. the stunning thing is margaret thatcher was right.s socialism is great until you run of everybody else's money.bo just like you see in venezuela. >> sean: we are running out of other people's money. i use the same quote often. dan bongino, it's kind of shocking. there's a pretty big percentage
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of the electorate that i don't think really understands the difference. >> they don't. i'm reminded of that scene from "billy madison." and we are all dumber for having seen that, sean. socialism is not free stuff. socialism is death. it's despair, it's starvation. it is the government controlled the means of production. europe and denmark and scandinavia and nordic countries are not socialist. socialism is for imbeciles. don't be an imbecile. these are capitalist countries with high taxes. if you want to argue about taxes we can argue with the left about taxes. but denmark, scandinavia, ande europe, these are not socialist countries. these are capitalist economies where the government does not own the means of production.ro it just taxes the snot out of its citizens. i wish these people would wake >> sean: dr. gorka? >> this is a great myth. none of these countries are socialist countries. the land of bmw in germany, the
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land of volvo in sweden. the land of nokia. these are capitalist states that tax their people a lot, but aren't communist states orop socialist states. the other thing is we protected them for 70 years. so they have the capacity to choose butter over guns. now they are in trouble when they have to defend themselves. it's a fantasy land. it's "alice in wonderland." >> sean: you both get an a+ tonight. quoting margaret thatcher and taxing the snot out of them, dan bongino. i did meet your brother. he is better looking, younger and smarter. >> he's not smarter. y he's definitely better looking though. >> sean: our video of the day next.. ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to kiss ♪
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they deserve it. take a look. >> to everyone here today from immigration and customs enforcement, customs and border protection, i want to let you know that we love you, we support you, we will always have your back and i think you know that. that you have to go through what you are going through and you have to be having to be demeaned by people that have no idea what strength is, is really very sad, and just a small group that gets a lot of publicity, because they have no courage, they have no guts, they just have big, loud mouths. we don't want to put up with that. >> sean: that would be, like, the whole democratic party, the ones that want to eliminate i.c.e. not all of them but too many of them. you know what, i've been 12 plus times down to the border, horseback, helicopter, boats, all-terrain vehicles, i've been to drug warehouses, floor to ceiling, massive drugs being
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brought into our country, i have seen tunnels, human trafficking, drug trafficking, yeah, we can protect it with a big door. let not your heart be troubled. it's all the time we have left. we'll always be fair and balanced. jason chaffetz, by the way, tomorrow night, investigating the investigators, following the money, a "hannity" investigation. all right, you are in for laura ingraham tonight. i got to meet your brother. it is meet the brother today at fox. >> jason: i love it when you talk about the border patrol and i.c.e. and we are going to talk about it tonight on this hour as well. good evening from new york. i'm jason chaffetz in for laura ingraham, who is on vacation. we have a fantastic show for you tonight with so much news, i don't know how we will get it all to fit in. president trump is once again attacking the media. this time, over the white house counsel's interview with the mueller probe.