tv Tucker Carlson Tonight FOX News August 21, 2018 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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it doesn't mean you can't get back on track. great. yeah, great. i'd like to go back to bermuda. i hear it's nice. yeah, i'd like to see it. no judgment. just guidance. td ameritrade. and i got a call. mr. president, we'd >> tucker: welcome to tucker carlson. the president as you've seen giving animated speech in charleston, west virginia. we're going back to that until interest ends. >> president trump: great respect, tremendous respect for china. they have taken advantage of our country for decades. we have rebuilt china. we have rebuilt china. i used to talk about this. i didn't press it initially, i wanted them to help us with north korea and they have. and they have. and we're doing well with north korea. these guys, it's been three months since i left, these guys saying what's happening with north korea. they've been doing this stuff for 75 years. three months. what happened? i can tell you -- and i got along very well kim jong-un.
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good chemistry. but i can tell you, there is been no missile launches no, rocket launches, we got the hostages back. [applause] and we didn't pay $1.8 billion in cash for the hostages. [applause] there's been no nuclear tests. and they say what's taking so long? i said, for 40, 50, 60 years, during the nuclear age, 25 years, you've been working and nobody complained about the fact that president obama was unable to do anything with north korea and he considered it, read the papers, you'll see what he considered it. i've been three months, i have a
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good relationship with chairman kim. we'll see what happens. who knows. can i honest? who knows. but i haven't taken off the sanctions. we have massive sanctions. i want to take them off quickly but they have got to get rid of the nukes. they have to get rid of the nukes. [applause] got to get rid of them. but who knows what is going to happen. maybe it'll work out. i think we have done a good job in a short period of time. started off extremely hostile, remember they said he's going to get news a war. they thought my rhetoric was too strong. you remember. i won't say it, i don't want to insult chairman kim. but you remember. oh, you remember. elton john. [laughing] i don't want to insult, i'm not going to mention it. but the fake news back there said he is going to get us into
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a war. he's crazy. this guy is crazy. our president is crazy. [crowd noise] and then i went to meet the folks that run nato. all of the readers of nato -- all of the leaders of nato. they weren't paying their bills. you know in real estate, i love real estate, when somebody doesn't pay their rent you say they're dlink went, you have to day -- delink went, and you have to way your rent. i met them last year. stolen berg, secretary general, great guy of nato, single biggest fan other than any other fan in the room, he was in charge of nato, couldn't get any money. nobody was paying their bills. last year, i said you're not paying your bills. you have to pay your bills.
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he picked up $44 billion. he told that to the press, he didn't report it. $44 billion. and then i just left recently, and we're going to pick up at least another close to $100 billion extra. i said to him, you got to pay your bills. the united states is paying close to 90% of the cost of protecting europe. that's wonderful. i said europe, folks, nato is better for you than interest is for us. believe me. and what happened is they asked a question. they have small countries, big countries, all of these countries. we're supposed to protect them. i said look, it's very simple. you got to pay up. you got to pay your bill. somebody said, sir, there's a president of the country calling me sir that, shows respect. i say yes mr. president.
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he said would you leave us if we don't pay our bills? now they hated my answer. i said yeah, i would have to consider it. you got to pay your bills. they hated the answer. [applause] but if i said no, you won't leave -- we won't leave you, i promise we'll always protect you, you will always be protected, don't pay your bills. then they never pay their bills. i said yes, i will leave you if you don't pay your bills. you could see those checkbooks coming out for billions of dollars. they pay their bills. and i think we'll pick up over the next short while, over $100 billion. [applause] and then they said, the fake news, they said president trump treated the nato nation leaders, in brackets, i put brackets, who
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have been ripping us off, in brackets. treated the nato leaders with tremendous contempt and disrespect. i said no, no, no, they disrespected our country, they weren't paying. [applause] now they're paying. how about if we got into a c conflict because a country was attacked. we're in world war 3. we're protecting a country that was attacked and didn't pay its bills. i feel so stupid. we're protecting a country that wasn't paying its bills. i got them to pay $100 billion, it's going to be much more than that. tremendous amounts of money. tremendous. they got to pay up, they're paying up. and then they made the statement that i showed great disrespect. but actually, i have a great
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relationship with all of those people, 28 people, all of them. we have a great relationship. now they respect us. they respect our country again. they didn't respect our country. they didn't respect our country. [applause] they respect us again. and you see it with china. china was walking its way down, i don't want them to go down, but they're down close to 30% in three months. i want them on do well, i want to be their friend. but we had to do things that we had to do. when i came, we were heading in a certain direction that was going to allow china to be bigger than us in a very short period of time. that's not going to happen any more. [applause] not going to happen. can't let it happen. the long winding road, you know the long, winding road. i have tremendous respect for china.
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the energy, the genius, it's incredible what they have done. hopefully will have a great relalsship. it has to be a two-way street. we have only one-way streets. not just china, every country. our enemies, our friends, our allies. our allies treat us worse than our enemies. believe it. so it's all changing. when we get those trade deals done properly, and you know what bothers me, i have people coming to me, in congress, sir, can you get this deal done immediately. i say it doesn't work that way. i don't want to go too fast. the deal won't be any good if we do. that it has to jess tate, right -- gestate. right? like when you cook a chicken. time, time, turkey for thanksgiving miechlt mother would say eight hours. i said eight hours? she made the greatest turkey i've ever had. takes time. takes time.
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[applause] so when they run and they say oh, can you do nato right now, could we sign it next week. wait a minute, look, i like mexico, i like the new leader, i think he's going to be terrific. a little different than us. i think i'm doing better with him than with the capitalist. but he knows that mexico needs the united states. they need the united states. canada, charges us close to 300% tariffs for dairy products going in to canada, which is essentially saying we don't want your dairy products, this is a wall. they have a wall in a different way. it's a an economic wall. i said i don't want that. i said justin, i mean, i don't want to have too much fun with you, justin, you can't do that. justin trudeau, nice guy. they have taken advantage of us, for so many years, we have to take our time. but with that being said, we're
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doing very well, on our way with a good deal, a fair deal. i don't want a good deal, i want a fair deal for both of us. fair with mexico. [applause] and you've heard me say it. as an example, when china makes a car they sell it into the united states, there's 2.5% tariff, of which they don't pay. they pay nothing. other than that it's a wonderful deal. when we make a car we sell it into china and there's a 25% tariff. that's just the beginning. there's others. a man was driving down a street in china and he looked over, and it was a chevrolet like camaro, does that make cents? i think it cost $39,000 or $40,000. he's in china, beijing, and he
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shouts across, he shouts across, tell me, how much did that car cost in china? guy looks, $119,000. you understand that, right? it's all taxes and taxes and taxes. we can't do that any more, can't do it. we are a country with unbelievable potential. we are a country that has been ripped off by everybody. and we're not going to be ripped off any more. and if it takes me a little angst to tell senators and congressman and all of the people that really do have your heart in their hands, in many cases, sometimes i wonder where are they coming from. but it has to take that little period of time w that being said we're moving so fast nobody can believe it. and every country wants to make a deal. because we're like the big fat piggy bank that everybody wants
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to rob. we're not going to let them rob us any more. is that okay? we're not going to let them rob us any more. every day we're keeping or promises. we're cancelling obama's illegal anti-coal destroying regulations. the so-called clean power plan. doesn't that sound nice? clean power. you know, when i ended the paris accord, what's a more beautiful name than the paris accord. let's call it the west virginia accord, maybe i would have signed it. [applause] when i entered that, it was going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars. hundreds of billions. other countries as an example, china, didn't kick in until many years in the future. we kicked in immediately.
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russia went back many years which was not a clean time in terms of the environment. you know what we all agree, we want a clean environment, a strong, beautiful, clean environment. i want clean air. i want crystal clean water. and we've got it. we've got the cleanest country in the planet right now. there's nobody cleaner than us. and it's getting better and better and better. i'm getting rid of the ridiculous rules and regulations which are killing our companies, our states, and our jobs. just today we announced our new affordable clean energy proposal that will help our coal-fired power plants and save consumers, you, me, everybody, billions and billions of dollars. [applause] we've eliminated a record number of job-killing regulations and
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republicans have passed the biggest tax cuts and reform, the reform is very important. you know what i said, i don't want to talk about reform, nobody knows what it means. that could be a tax increase. i said how come it's been ronald ray ga than since you got the last big tax cut? they looked at me and said we don't know. a lot of great senators and congressmen came up to see me, and they had the 2018 tax reform. i said what the hell does that mean? are you going to raise taxes? then i found out this is what they've done for 40 years. tax reform. i said nobody knows what it means. we do have reform in there, great reform. but they said nobody knows. i said nobody knows what it means. here is, i want to put it down, tax cuts. they said what would be your favorite name mr. president. i said the tax cut-cut-cut-cut-cut bill. and we almost did it.
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we almost did it. but in all fairness, in this case, congressmen, a couple of them, thought it was tacky. so we called it the tax cut and jobs bill. but you know what? we have done great reform. the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. you people are benefitting. you're benefitting. and companies are benefitting, and those companies are the ones that are providing all of the jobs. we're setting records on jobs. we're protecting, also, so important for west virginia and a lot of states, we are protecting, again, religious liberty. [ applause ] and we're also standing up to social media censorship, that's the new thinking. that's the new thing. you know, i'd rather have fake news, like cnn, i'd rather have fake news.
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[booing] than have anybody, including liberals, socialists, anything, than have anybody stop and sensor. we have to live with it, we have to live with fake news, there's too many sources. everyone of us is like a newspaper. you have twitter, facebook, whatever you have. everyone, you can't have censorship. you can't pick one person and say we don't like what he's been saying, he's out. so we'll live with fake news, i mean i hate to say it. but we have no choice. that's by far the better alternative. can't have people saying censorship. you know what, it can turn around, it can be them next. it can be them next. we believe in the right of americans to speak their minds. we repeal the core of obamacare, individual mandate, we want to give critically ill patients, we have to give them access, we
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have to give healthcare to people. we want the right to try. you know what that is? they've been trying to get this for 40 years, couldn't get it. a person is terminally ill, they're terminally ill, they're really sick. i know people if they have money they travel all over the world to try and find a cure f they don't have money they die. they die. we have the greatest scientists in the world. that's why china and so many other people are trying, countries, trying to steal our technology. we can't let that happen. we have so many people that want to be able to give, it's like hope, right to try, i love it. they never had it before. a person is terminally ill. we have a great new drug but it's going to take another two, three years to have it approved. okay, maybe longer. but the tests are really looking
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good. this person is very sick. this person is going to be dead in 90 days and we couldn't get that drug for that person, no matter who you are. what's the story with this? there were a lot of complications. the insurance companies had problems, medical companies had problems, everybody. a lot of people didn't want them on the stats. horrible things. i said what's going on. we're going to take the right to try and we went through with the help of corey, your great, wonderful -- are you a coal lover, shelly. with the help of shelly. soon to be with patrick, he has a lot of things, he's going to get it. we have it approved. now if we have a drug that hasn't been approved, somebody has a certain illness, they're going to be able to try. you know what? some of the drugs we have in the
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pipeline are amazing. it's going to work for a lot of people. it's going to give them hope, give them hope. we've just secured $6 billion to fight the opiod epidemic. i know in west virginia that's a big deal, right? that's a big deal. we confirmed a record number of circuit courtings j.j., the record, is going -- court judges. it's bigger and bigger. if schumer would get them approved. he's not happy about approving them. we confirmed the great neil gorsuch to the supreme court of the united states. and as i just said, justice kavanaugh is doing great. looks like, i don't know, very tough. central casting. how do you vote against him? but the democrats may find a way. we've secured a record $700
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billion for our military this year. and $716 billion. billion with a "b." our military will be stronger and bigger and better and more sophisticated than it's ever been. ever! and hopefully we'll never have to use it. we have a lot of good fighters out here. i see some of them, i know some of them. the one thing about a fighter or a nation or whatever you want, the stronger your military the better chance you have of never having to use it. we don't want to use it. we don't want to use it. and all of that equipment is being built right here in the usa, we make the greatest fighter jets in the world, we make the greatest ships in the world, we make the greatest missiles and rockets. nobody does it like us. and at my direction the pentagon
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is working hard to create the sixth branch of the american armed forces, the space force. [applause] i'm very excited. we need it. that's the new frontier. i'm not just talking about sending rockets to the moon. i'm talking about militarily, that's whesh it's at. thanks to the leadership of u.n. ambassador nikki haley we've reduced t reduced the united nations budget, saving the taxpayers $350 million. nobody wants to write it. we just passed the landmark v.a. accountability law, that's where people that don't treat our vets properly we look at them and we
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say you're fired, get the hell out. 45 years they've been trying to pass it. 45 years they've tried to pass it. we also passed veterans choice so that if our veterans can't get the care they need they have the right to see a private doctor. they don't have to wait in line for three weeks, four weeks, eight weeks, two months. i withdrew the united states from the horrible iran nuclear deal. [applause] and this month we reimposed tough sanctions on iran nuclear program and on iran. i also recognize the capital of israel and opened the american embassy in jerusalem.
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and i understand now what happened. every president, many, many presidents, they said we're going to do it. we're going to move our embassy to jerusalem, going to be the capital of israel. we're going to do it. then they don't could it. -- don't do it. politicians, they don't do it. i said i'm going to do it during the campaign, right here in west virginia. and i now understand why many, many presidents before me said they were going to do it and didn't do it. because i was inundated with calls from foreign leaders. every country, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, please don't do it. and so actually what i did, i was about five days off, i stopped taking calls, i said i'll call you back next week. i knew what they were going to ask me. easier to say, oh, i didn't know you were calling for that reason.
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so i approved it. and it should have been done years ago. [applause] and if there's ever going to be peace, remember i said it, with the palestinians, it was a good thing to have done. because we took it off the table. because every time there were peace talks they never got past jerusalem becoming the capital. i said take interest off the table. in the negotiation, israel will have to pay a higher price. they want a very big thing. i took it off the table. they could never get by. i understand that, corey, you both understand that. shelly, they could never get past the fact of jerusalem becoming the capital. now it's off the table. there's nothing to negotiate. but they'll get something very good. it's their term next. see what happens. it's very interesting. i've heard that's the toughest deal of all deals.
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that's called peace between israel and the palestinians. they say that's the toughest of all deals. we'll see what happens. instead of apologize, that's what we're doing, is winning. instead of apologizing for america we're standing up for america, we're standing up for the heros who defend our country. to continue this incredible success, we must elect republicans, we must elect patrick morrissey, we need him. we need patrick. so get your friends, your neighbors, your co-workers, your family members, get the people that love our country and get out to vote. we need his vote so badly. we need his energy. you're going to see, he has energy. loyal citizens like you help
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build this country. together we're taking back our country. returning power to where it belongs to the american people. from morgantown to madison to charleston this great state was settled by tough pioneer men and strong pioneer women who tamed the wilderness to build a better life for themselves and for their incredible american families. they didn't have a lot of money. they didn't have a lot of luck. but they had grit and they had faith and they loved each other. i'll tell you what, they were smart. they are smart. we're the smart ones, remember. i say it all the time, you hear the elite, they're not elite, we're elite. you're smarter than they are, you have more money than they are, you have better jobs than they do. you're the elite.
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let them have the word elite, you're the super elite, that's what it is. i always hate, i always hate when they say well the elite decided not to go to something i'm doing. the elite. i say, well, i have a lot more money than they do. i have a much better education than they have. i'm smarter than they are. i have many much more beautiful homes than they do. i have a better apartment at the top of fifth avenue. why the hell are they the elite, tell me? because you're the elite, just remember that, you're the elite. they aren't the elite. that's just a name. aren't you insulted when they say the elite? i'm always insulted. they're not the elite. your people and the people that
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preceded you in west virginia were the carpenters and the coal miners, the ministers, the metal workers, the farmers, the factory workers. they all had one thing in common. they love their families, they love their country, and they love their god. [applause] we stand on the shoulders of generations of american patriots who knew how to fight and they knew how to win. we're winning again. we're winning again. just like them we're going to keep on fighting and we're going to keep on winning. and we're going to win for our nation, our children, our families. we're going to win for our continued freedom. [applause]
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i joked that i'll have patrick morrissey coming to me soon, he will be your senator, and he'll say mr. president, the people of west virginia can't stand winning so much. they haven't won in decades. and now you're winning with coal, winning with everything. he's going to say patrick is going to say mr. president, please, they don't want to win so much. they can't stand it. please, you're winning too much for west virginia, please stop winning. i'm going to say patrick, i'm sorry, i don't care what the hell the people of west virginia want, we're going to keep on winning anyway, because i believe that's what they want. right? that's what they want.
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[applause] because the people of west virginia never give up, they never give in, and they never back down. place because we are america and our hearts bleed red, white, and blue. we are one people, one family, and one glorious nation under god. and together we will make america wealthy again. that's happening. that's happening a lot faster than the fake news ever said it could happen. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again. and we will make america great again.
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thank you, west virginia, thank you. [applause] ♪ "you can't always get what you want" ♪ >> tucker: you can't always get what you want, the signature ending to a trump rally. wrapping up the speech in west virginia on a busy news day. we've been watching the events of today, tammy bruce joins with us a recap. tammy, tell me what you thought of the president's remarks in light of everything that's happened today in the news. >> well, he was on his game, frankly more than i'd even seen him. he clearly loves what he's doing, still. he had a message he wanted to impart. he did so.
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i never really realized his outgoing theme song was a message to the elite. but apparently it is at this point. they're not getting what they want. this is an unflappable man. look, it was a lot of news today. but it was also news that wasn't necessarily surprising. it's kind of been baked into what we've been watching for the last year, year and a half. so it's not surprising. and the president of course sig nals nald his approach when he was going to the rally, reiterating his feeling about the mueller investigation, nothing of what happened today was about the special counsel and the so-called russian collusion. but of course it seemed today at this rally, reminding people of what he's accomplished for them. even more than that, being in a state with people that the democrats took for granted, that democratic administrations effectively abandoned, hillary and obama wanted to change and destroy getting rid of coal. he reminded them that he's with them that, he was a part of
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them, and they're with him. this is what you're going to see leading up to the mid terms. optimistic man, remaining confident, he clearly, mentioned the molly tibbetts murder, but it's so early at this point, not going into the details there, but making it clear with what you're also going to hear leading up to the mid terms, that a red wave means safety and strength. that a blue wave would mean open borders, and crime. that is the method -- the message you will be hearing from the president leading into the mid terms and it will be one that resonates. >> tucker: i think he wins on these themes. i was, however, a little surprised to learn that michael cohen was taking a commission for selling a birken bag which i had never heard of, extremely expensive hand bag, he made $30,000 brokering a deal and he didn't pay taxes on it. that's amusing, i don't know why.
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>> even the elitist products, might come back and bite you. >> tucker: yeah. you shouldn't pay that much for a hand bag, maybe god is weighing in. >> a message from the lowered. >> tucker: thank you. well, this is a fox news alert, as mentioned, paul manafort was found guilty on eight counts financial, mostly tax evasion. michael cohen pleaded guilty to criminal charges of his own a lot happened. we're joined by chief important ton dent ed henry to tell us what it was. hey, ed. >> good to see you. the michael cohen case could be more damaging to the president, he was directly implicated. a far cry from the paul manafort case, nothing to do with the president, 016, or russia collusion. the former trump campaign chair found guilty on five counts of filing wrong income tax returns, two charges of bank fraud. jury couldn't reach a verdict on
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10 other counts. prosecutors have until the end of the month to decide on a possible retrial. there is a possibility that manafort could be pardoneded by the president. the president said nothing about the potentially more explosive cohen case. leaving to it his attorney, rudy giuliani, to provide this statement. no aels of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's charges against mr. cohen. it's clear as the prosecutor noted mr. cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. cohen's plea deal allegation he broke the law to influence the 2016 election. cohen will get prison time between 43 and 63 months on charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and campaign finance charges involving payments to two women who allege romantic relationships with the president. no campaign finance law was
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broken according to giuliani. this plea deal contradicts that statement and raises questions whether the president or anyone else from the campaign will be implicated. >> tucker: at its core a confusing story, really, thank, ed. appreciate it. allen dershowitz is a retired harvard law professor, the author of "the case against impeaching president trump." the manafort story, convicted of tax evasion, sounds like he did it, i don't think many people are surprised. cohen, part of the guilty plea surrounds money that he moved apparently from trump's together a woman who alleged sexual contact with trump. that's a common scenario among famous people, we have seen a lot of it, people paying off women who say they had sexual contact with the affluent person. is that illegal, how is that a crime? >> well, itself isn't a crime. if the president had paid it directly it wouldn't be a crime. the allegation here is that it was cohen who paid it and made a campaign contribution.
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which he didn't report at the direction of the president. some stations are already playing the funeral music for president trump. but this is much more complicated, much more knew answered. the crime itself is very, very vague. they try to put edwards, the former presidential candidate, on trial and of course he got an acquit an. it depends completely on the credibility of cohen. as judge ellis said, when they squeeze people like manafort or cohen, they squeeze them not only to sing but sometimes to compose. it's very easy to embellish a story. assume hypothetically he did pay the money and it was designed to help the impact. election that wouldn't involve the president. all he has to do is say the president directed me to do it. that's the kind of embellishment people put on a story when they want to avoid dieing in prison. the prosecutor says you have two
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choices, die in prison or give me a story can i use to get the president. i'm not suggesting that happened here. the risk is what judge ellis talked about in the manafort case. we may see that at work here. we're a long way from tolling the bells for this administration. it's a bad day, negative day but not a fatal one. >> tucker: bad for sure. but i'm a bit confused. some one comes to you and says to you, you're running for office and the person says give me money or i will humiliate you in public and you do give that person money, instruct your lawyer to give that person money, that's a campaign donation? >> not if you make it yourself. if somebody else pays the money in order to influence the outcome. election it is technically,ps practice, a violation of the election laws. that's what they tried to get edwards on, didn't work. they got an acquittal and hung
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jury they never tried him again. but you know, again, violation of election laws, are regarded as kind of jaywalking. in the realm of things, about elections. and there are so many of them. every administration vie lalts the election laws. every candidate violates the election laws. usually they pay a fine, something like that happens. here they're trying to elevate night an impeachable offense or felony against the president. they may name the president as an unindicted co-conspirator that, did that with nixon, back then, i complained about that. naming some one as unindicted co-conspiracy, he has no opportunity to defend himself or herself. that may happen. this is the beginning of a story that will unravel over time. but it's not nearly as deadly lethal as some have portrayed it as being. >> tucker: certainly confusing. as a matter of -- professor, thank you, for explaining that.
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appreciate it. >> president trump: with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly, from mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. should have never happened. illegally in our country. we've had a huge impact. but the laws are so bad. the immigration laws are such a disgrace. >> tucker: the president moments ago for the last month, iowans have searched for molly tibbetts. today, tragically, her body was discovered. the suspect is an illegal immigrant. he led them to the body in a corn field. matt fin is in iowa for us with details. matt? >> talker, molly tibbetts' body was found in a corn field not far from where i'm standing.
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police say 24-year-old christian rivera has been channelled with first degree murder in the death of molly tibbetts. authorities say he has been in this country illegally. tonight we're working to learn about rivera's background. we have learned that i.c.e. has placed a detainer on rivera and say he's here from mexico. one of the lead investigators giving us a little more details on christian rivera. >> we have confirmed with homeland security investigation that he is an illegal alien. and we believe he's been in this area, now, for four to seven years. >> investigators say rivera confessed that on july 18, the day molly tibbetts went missing, he approached her and followed her while she was out on her jog. she spotted him and said leave me alone, i'm going to call police. took out her cell phone. rivera told police he continued to follow her and blacked out and doesn't remember what happened after that. nd he came to in a rural area
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not far from here. authorities say this morning rivera led them to a remote location about 13 miles from her hometown where they found what they believe is the body of molly tibbetts. authorities say it was a surveillance video that showed molly jogging and then rivera's black malibu car, how they tracked down rivera. police have not revealed the manner of molly's death. rivera saw molly prior to the day that she allegedly murdered her on july 18, it's not clear how often he saw her. police are also going to clarify are us in the coming days whether he may have been stalking her. she was set to return to the university of iowa as a sophomore, her father rob tibbetts was on the ground here pleading for information leading to the arrest or conviction of anyone involved in the disappearance of his daughter. he went to the university -- he went to the iowa state fair to
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hand out fliers begging for information. after 30-plus days he's learned that his daughter has been found dead. tucker? >> tucker: thank you, matt. as with the kate steinle case a young american might still be alive if the country were willing to enforce its own federal laws. luis er luiser if nan da injoining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: the line that the rest of us are willing to accept, all immigrants are great people, better than us, if we su expect otherwise we're bad peepful we point to evidence proving otherwise then we're bigots and should be quiet. why don't americans have a quite to police their own borders and say if you aren't here legally you have to leave now. >> i'm glad that you're giving us an opportunity to have this discussion. democrats, republicans, independent interests, immigrants and those born here
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all alike can agree that the heinous crimes have no place regardless of who does them. just this week, we found out that a white man in denver killed his wife and two beautiful daughters. tragic. just as this young woman in iowa, whose death is a tragedy. i can't imagine what her family is going through. >> tucker: but here's the difference. i understand. hold on. >> the man in denver doesn't speak for all white men. >> tucker: i didn't say anything about this man's race, the story isn't about race, don't make it about race, stop. that i was saying this is about nationality and citizenship. he had no right to be here. that's the difference. lots of americans commit heinous crimes, we put them in prison where they should be. exactly. >> tucker: but he didn't have a right to be here in the first place. he should not have been here. his presence violated federal law. you and your party tell us we're racist for wanting to enforce our own laws. i has everything to do with whether we think laws are real. some of the -- tlmpblts's more we agree on.
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we agree that the immigration system is badly broken, horribly broken. >> tucker: i don't think that. >> the people that have a way of fixing that have been oftentimes republicans. >> tucker: no, you don't -- this is just spin. it's simple. i asked you a question, answer it, why don't we as american citizens, you, me, our neighbors, everyone, immigrants or not, an american, have a right to say if you don't have a right to be here you must leave. when did we lose that right? why don't we have that right? >> i tell you when, when people who own big corporations, companies, inviting these people to come work off times at depressed wages they need the labor. >> tucker: i agree with you completely. i agree with you completely. >> george bush brought mexican immigrants to help with the recovery and reconstruction after katrina. >> tucker: to his eternal shame and the unemployment rate -- you're right, but what you are missing is the african-american
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unemployment rate in new orleans remains very high. those jobs went to foreigners. they didn't help the americans who need the help. >> i agree. >> tucker: you're right, i agree. to his eternal shame. one of the reasons he has a lot to be ashamed of from eight years as president. one of the main things. i have a simple question, you and i agree. why don't we say to employers you must verify the legal status of your employees, if you can't you can't employ them. >> we agree on. that one of the things we did under the obama administration is establish e-verify. >> tucker: universal e-verify. absolutely, yes it was. >> tucker: democrats are totally against it, they take money from these employers that rely on cheaper -- >> it included it. border security. it included verification. d.c. it's not true.
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democrats right now, ask members, in the senate, are you for universal e-verify. if you can't prove your employees are in this country you can't employ them r they for it. >> under the obama administration we set off drones in california, added border patrol agents. we agree we need a safe and orderly border. >> tucker: it didn't work. >> how do you use your reverses. the problem i have is we have immigration agents chasing down moms taking their kids to school instead of looking for criminals. >> tucker: that's silly. here was a real criminal. if we --. absolutely. >> tucker: if we eliminate i.c.e. as democrats call for, how do we police our immigration laws? we can't. you represented a party that would like to eliminate immigration ep forcement. >> as long as trump and other republicans politicize it, it turns into a kind have debate
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that takes away from the reality that we need a safe and secure border, someone who is stopping the flow of illegal guns and drugs north, and bulk cash. we did that during the obama administration. >> tucker: i'm sorry, this is disingenuous. the country is flooded with heroin from mexico. >> we are in agreement on that. but when you politicize it -- >> tucker: with respect you aren't tell the truth. >> the mom going to school and taking her kids there and raiding factories -- >> tucker: thank you, i appreciate it. okay. the left is hyping up its base for 20920 election. could their priorities be hurting them? hem in the upcoming midterm? you're turning onto the street when you barely clip a passing car. minor accident - no big deal, right? wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different insurance company. for drivers with accident forgiveness
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on almost every issue, they seem to be moving well to the left of the general republic. meld i cale for all, bashing people for their skin color, getting pretty hardcore. but how will it help them if at all during this year's races in the mid terms? dana perino joins us tonight, joins "the daily briefing" if you watch every day and should. it's nice to have some one as calm and considered, after the heated conversation we had. i'm especially grateful you are here. do you think it's possible that the strategy for 2020 affects the mid terms adversely, or the other way around? >> dana: the other day i was listening to the podcast a woman from third way, pretty moderate democrat, said she could list 35 democrats that come to mind that are going to want to run in 2020. and in their zeal to try to find a lane in 2020, they are stirring up the base in 2018 but the wrong base.
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because clays basically what they're talking about is supreme court obstruction, impeaching the president, medi-cal for all, and this relates -- medicare for all and abolishing i.c.e. all of those things are what democratic senators in tough re-election, don't want to talk about those things. they could be good bumper stickers for 2020, they're not helpful for 2018. >> tucker: i mean, do you think looking at the map, i know you do in a forensic way, do you think that enough races could be altered by the themes that the republicans hold the house? >> dana: sure, it is possible for the republicans to hold the house. they are going to lose some seats, no doubt about that. but if the stars align just right and you don't have any more problems like, we haven't even talked about congressman duncan hunter was indicted along with his wife for illegal use of campaign funds. going on personal trips and also buying hawaiian shorts and
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saying they could pass it off as a donation to wounded warriors. that kind of corruption is something that democrats are starting to pick up on. >> tucker: a shocking story. >> dana: you will see they look at collins, hunter, try to pin corruption and law and order issues against the republicans. sure, the republicans could find a way to keep the house. it is just as possible that the democrats will find a way to pick off a lot of these races. i think there's about 35 to 45 tossup races right now. that means that depending how things go, we have a long way between now and november. these issues that the democrats are talking about, it helps for the outrage in 2020 but it's not going to help them in 2018. >> tucker: i agree with that. and the corruption stuff, is always legitimate to run against corruption. dana perino, thank you for that, great to see you. we will be right back.
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>> tucker: an exclusive investigation for you, people of south africa having their land taken away only because of their skin color. we ask thehe state department ad you won't believe how they responded. shocking. we'll have that for you tomorrow night. tune in every night at 8:00 to the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. we turned over to sean hannity. >> sean: incredible news night. major breaking news. robert mueller's partisan witch hunt had to guess government does nothing to do with russia collusion. nothing. paul manafort earlier today and found guilty of 8 of 18 charges, all related to bank and tax fraud. no russia collusion. michael cohen pled guilty, it counts of bank fraud, tax fraud, campaign finance violations, far worse has been committed by others, no russia collusion. once again, the sentencing of lieutenant general michael. flyn deleted. flynn pled guilty to lying to fbi investigators who didn't think he was lying and to know russia collusion. george papadopoulos now considering a withdrawal of his guilty plea. he lo
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