one creating this moral bust. and we could all be poorer for it. good night. ♪ >> dana: i am dana perino with pam bondi, juan williams, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." major developments in the wake of president trump's former attorney michael: plea deal. federal prosecutors granting immunity to "national enquirer" publisher in exchange for information about cohen's hush money payment. the president blasting cohen for cutting a deal with prosecutors. >> this whole thing about flipping, i know all about flipping. the 30, 40 years, i've been watching flippers. everyone is wonderful and then they get ten years in jail and

they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go. it almost out to be outlawed. it's not fair. somebody defrauded a bank and is going to get ten years in jail or 20 years but if you can say something bad about donald trump, and you go down to two years or three years, which is the deal he made. >> dana: the president taking aim again at attorney general jeff sessions and recused himself from the mueller probe. >> the democrats are very strong on the justice department. i put an attorney general that never took control of the justice department, jeff sessions. never took control of the justice department. it's sort of an incredible thing. >> dana: sessions firing back, vowing that the justice department won't be improperly influenced by politics. senator lindsey graham causing a stir by predicting the end may be near for the embattled ag. >> i think there will come a time sooner rather than later where it will be time to have a

new face and fresh force of the department of justice. after the election, i think there'll be some serious discussions about a new attorney general. replacing him before the election to me would be a nonstarter, but the idea of having a new attorney general in the first term of president trump's administration, i think it is very likely. >> dana: that is how you set the cat amongst the pigeons. jesse, what do you think? question >> jesse: a lot of people are unhappy with jeff ses performance. i think reality winner is the only person he prosecuted. there's been a lot of misconduct at the fbi, the department of justice. i don't believe he wants to get in the middle of it because he doesn't want to get caught in some sort of obstruction probe himself. he never should have recused. he bowed to the pressure of the swamp. he made a mistake by forgetting some random meeting for 30 seconds with a russian ambassador and then he caved. i understand trump's concern.

the michael cohen one thing, i don't believe the president wants to criminalize flipping. it's his way of saying he doesn't like it. i understand what happened. cohen was looking at almost 20 years in prison and his wife was in the cross hairs too because the wife also signed off on their tax returns. he is a good father. he is a family man, so he doesn't want to spend 20 years in jail. if he can spend. by doing what the prosecutors want and saying yes, mr. trump did this because he wanted to help himself with the election. i will sign anything. that's how prosecutors advance in their careers. prosecutors don't sit around and not prosecute people. they prosecute famous people, and that's how they move up. they want a scalp here, and that's just one step on the way to potentially donald trump. now, there is nothing wrong with paying a woman do not say something which could be personally damaging to you. or to your family. if he pays this money out of his

personal piggy bank so she keeps quiet, that's not a legitimate campaign expenditure. john edwards faced the exact same thing. prosecutors went after him because some rich folks gave him $700,000 to cover up his affair and protect his wife. it went to the jury, and the jury said you know what, this had nothing to do with the political campaign. this has everything to do with trying to save his reputation and his marriage. the law is on donald trump's side on this. i don't see this going anywhere except politically damaging the president. he is wasting a ton of political capital dealing with these massive amounts of investigations and the criminalization of politics and it really is starting to take a toll on him. and it's disappointing and sad. >> dana: will go to a prosecutor for a response. >> pam: thank you. i've never prosecuted a famous person who i've had to flip. all of mine were murderers.

prosecutors, it's a common tool. the most recent one was a getaway driver in a murder case. you take the least culpable person and you flip them because you want to know what's going on at the time of the crime. having said that, you've got have corroborating evidence, plenty of it. and securing -- the difference here is the jury gets to hear you gave this guy a deal. hey, this guy got this deal and he's not going to prison at all. they can hear everything about it. you flip him and he was part of the murder but he didn't actually commit the murder. the other case with the president, all is going to be is a potential memo for impeachmen impeachment. so where is the credibility of somebody getting to cross-examine him? it's not. they are taking what michael cohen says as fact. if they do an impeachment memo, they are putting in there, he said this. therefore it must be true. once it's out in the media, it's out there. sure, down the road, congress will get a chance to jump in on

it. but by then, it's already taken us back. that's what troubles me with how they're doing this. >> dana: juan, do you want to weigh in? >> juan: i would love to. first and foremost, there is no deal. cohen spoke in open court and said what he said. he has no deal with mueller. he has no deal with the southern district of new york's federal prosecutors. he made a plea deal because he understood and said he was guilty of having committed these crimes. and then named the president as someone who had directed him to make these payments. what we have learned today in terms of what american media, the national inquirer has done, that he was involved in an effort to cover up these things, jesse, in advance of the campaign, that these payments were made in cooperation with the media company to protect the president. interesting language in there. they said this was basically a tripwire so that they would learn of anybody who was coming to potentially embarrass the

president and they would stop it by, what do they call it, catch and kill? catch and kill these stories. to hear the president talking about cohen in this manner and suggesting that manafort is okay. it sounds to me like we are talking about a mob boss in the godfather for something. >> dana: greg, would you like to talk about this or hear another piece of sound? >> greg: i would like to talk about anything you want me to talk about, including that tape. >> dana: let's listen and you can comment on any of it. >> i guess it is something like high crimes? i don't know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job. i will tell you what. if i ever got impeached, i think the market would crash. i think everybody would be very poor. because without this thinking, you would see numbers that you

wouldn't believe. in reverse. >> dana: numbers in reverse. ellis might not be wrong about the economy because impeachment is not going to be helpful. it also could get better because then you end up with pence. this is what the right is missing. they have to be drilling it into the left's head that okay, we will take to be 25. you get two presidents. you will have president pence and you will also have trump as a national folk hero. do you think trump is going to go away if he's impeached? hell no. he will be on tv every day. you are going to have him and he will be bigger than pence. this david pecker stuff. suppressing tales, romps with a "playboy" model. i haven't seen a trail of victims here. i see nothing but consensual adults who got paid. you can kill stories.

i don't think that's against the law. i am like 323 million people out there. i am not a lawyer. a lot of the stuff goes right over my head, but i will tell you. i listened to alan dershowitz and he come if you watch him on bret baier on "special report" last night, the clearest analysis. if trump told cohen to make a contribution, that is legal. he is allowed. if cohen did it himself, that's a crime by cohen. therefore, trump is fine. he's not an undivided coconspirator because if you are lawful and the other person isn't, that's not a crime. the failure to report that contribution, it's a misdemeanor at most. i'm glad that dershowitz can explain what the media canonic slang for the media jumps and says there's a broken law. as for sessions, all of his palace intrigue is tedious and boring, it only serves to tell the american public that we are living in good times. if this is what we are talking

about, we have a great economy. we have bigger paychecks. we have low unemployment. we have what seems to be like temporary peace. so we are talking about this palace intrigue. the media is so frustrated. >> dana: the president tweets about jeff sessions, threatening to fire him. it's not leaks. the president actually said eight. >> greg: that is part of the trump package. he's not just your president. here is your uncle, cabdriver, bartender. ask him anything, he's got an opinion. he is like a six-hour drive to an hour of the beach. >> pam: that's why people love him. he has a target on his head from mueller and anybody who gets in the way as collateral damage. hence immunity in these plea deals. they are going to do anything they can to -- >> juan: wait a second. what about the truth? what about having the american people understand what took place? he goes after sessions today. what kind of man is this?

jesse, his in intent is that the justice department -- >> jesse: mr. holder wasn't the most independent person at the justice department. because president obama attempted $2 million in illegal campaign contributions. had to pay a nearly four in the thousand dollar fine. not treated as a felony. not treated -- treated as a demonstrated violation. and the dossier that was paid for by hillary clinton and laundry through -- let me finish. laundered through a law firm. where was that? how is that not illegal campaign contribution? a big double standard and you don't want to admit it. >> juan: the quote of the day, i have lots of friends involved in this flipping thing. you know said that? donald trump, as if he was a mob boss. >> dana: i hate to leave it there but they are yelling and we've got to go. the cavanagh confirmation battle

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♪ >> juan: brett kavanaugh on capitol hill meeting with senate democrats. the supreme court nominee pressing the flesh while some members of the party are calling to delay or block's confirmation hearings in the wake of the cohen and manafort cases. >> the senate judiciary committee should immediately pause the consideration of the kavanaugh nomination. >> to me it seems at the very minimum we should be withholding this decision on the supreme court nominee until the air is cleared. >> i'm considering all the tools that are available to delay this nomination. i will not meet with judge kavanaugh. i did not plan to meet with him. i will not meet with him now. >> juan: we have a situation here where the democrats are making the case that a president who is obviously suspected of possibly being involved after the cohen pleading, with some

kind of conspiracy, should not be allowed to put a man on on e court who would would then subsequently have the judge about whether a president could be subpoenaed, maybe even indicted. >> dana: they are trying to make the case but they are making it poorly. they have already tried this. initially when the president had the opportunity to name somebody, even before it was kavanaugh, they said well, no president under federal investigation should be allowed to do it. that didn't work. this is not going to work. only the people have already said they are going to vote against him have canceled meetings with him or who are saying this. you have manchin, donnelly, and heitkamp, three democrats up for reelection in their senate races. they've already publicly disagree with schumer and said we are going to go forward. i also think that the democrats are going to show up because they are not going to miss an opportunity to be on television for four days. they are hypocrites. if they are saying they don't want to meet with him, if he's

not legitimate enough to meet with, then how could you possibly go to a hearing and question him? are you going to skip those hearings? i doubt it. >> juan: we have a lawyer here. what do you think? >> pam: i know brett kavanaugh. i know that dana knows brett kavanaugh very well too. when i look at a judge and especially a justice. ethics, intelligence, humility. that man example buys all of them. >> juan: couldn't i say that about merrick garland? >> pam: except this is our nominee right now. that's what i'm talking about. for blumenthal to say let's wait until the air is cleared, give me a break. they are never going to clear the air with president trump. never, ever ever. this is something, like dana said, they want to hang their hats on and drag it out and it's not going to work. what do you say about justice breyer got confirmed during the time when president clinton's records were subpoenaed under a grand jury. what is the difference? >> juan: jesse, we have a situation where there are some papers and the democrats want

access to all of brett kavanaugh's papers while he was at the white house. is that a legitimate request in your mind? >> jesse: they deserve access to things that are important for them to make a decision about whether or not to confirm him. if it is some sort of fishing expedition to drag this out and go where they are not really supposed to go, then they are just playing politics. they are going to use any tool in their toolbox to delay and make hay out of this nominee. they're not going to be able to obstruct because they don't have the majority. that's because the american people wanted a republican senate and that's the way the game is played. but it really is damaging. i have to reiterate the president's political capital, to have all of these investigations weighing on him and it gives the democrats excuse, a political excuse to obstruct more than they usually would. they were already obstructing a lot. if you look back, special prosecutors under clinton and bush and now trump have all been

big mistakes in my opinion. and have not led to the type of results for they were intended to. they never got to the bottom of anything critical. i don't believe the american people have looked at the results of these year-long, two-year long investigations and said oh, that was worthwhile. that got to the bottom of what that was intended to. this is just another example of special prosecutors weighing in on political matters that could be handled by judges or other administrative agents. >> juan: so the president is above the law? >> jesse: not above the law. there is always impeachment. >> juan: wait a minute. are you a democrat now? >> jesse: no. but that's where these things should be handled. in a political arena, not a criminal and a court arena. >> juan: greg, what do you think? jesse is calling for impeachment. >> greg: the curtain is pulled back. it's not about closure meddling. it's about stopping an effective presidency. gets another sip from gore justice, that's affected. if the democrats weren't

hypocrites, they wouldn't stop with kavanaugh. they would stop -- by their logic they would -- know trade talks, no foreign policy, go for the whole thing. to pam's point, if we decided to pause all politics until you cleared the air around all politics. we would never have politics. i am for that. let's just stop the politics until he finally clear the air. the people polluting the air the most, the democrats, they have political flatulence. >> juan: ic. we just normalized trump's behavior and the corruption. >> dana: you should tease. i want to get to the monologue. >> juan: greg has an outrageous story next.

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corner. it's amazing that i lived through it. i wished i could say the same for my twin brother rocco. those red berries looked safe. targeting a mom because her kid walks the dog is an absurd waste of time but we live in a time where absurd wastes of time is the norm. they gave michelle wolf a tv show and paul krugman a column. while -- the mayor of chicago is a one-man social disaster bread is easier to put a finger at a mom. we are going after present for paying a lady to stop yapping. that's the media version of the story. noncrime as crime. if you thought i couldn't hide trump into this story, then you've totally underestimated m me. i know what everybody here was thinking. how did he do that? he brought trump into this. a lot of marking going on. i know you're a prosecutor. i hate narcs.

you get that phone, you've got to respond. >> pam: in a world in which we live, you would want the same thing. if you receive a call, department of children and families, we have to investigate a child. this is ridiculous. this is a neighbor who i probably -- but you have an adorable little girl and marshmallow taking a walk around the block? a mom who homeschools her kids. the best mom in the world. has to be thoroughly investigated. the good news is you can't take a child out of a home without probable cause. think about how stressed the mother is getting that knock on the door. that happens. at least they looked into it and said there was nothing there. >> dana: but it took them two weeks. so that's an emotional drain. two weeks is a lifetime. you think it's totally draining their emotions, their finances.

all because -- he is 8 years old. she is short. i know a little bit about that. she looks like she's five. that's why they get the phone call. is it really take two weeks for the investigators to say we see what happened. okay, mama, we are so sorry. >> pam: the hardest part is for the parents, they called the little girls school. now you have parents. >> dana: if the authorities are so concerned about this neighborhood, then they should have police presence there 24/7. >> pam: it was a safe neighborhood, by all accounts. >> juan: they had a situation like this near where i live in maryland. the kids were walking home from school, like young gregory in his heyday. but the response from the community was hey, wait a second. if something happens, then you would be guilty if you didn't say i saw these very young children by themselves unsupervised on the streets. i understand. it doesn't matter. bad guys might even say we know

what time this little girl is out walking. but i don't like it because it's contrary not only to the way we all grew up who are sitting here, but if you look at the crime statistics, it's contrary to how many kids are actually attacked or kidnapped or anything like that. >> greg: from "the washington post," children by taken by strangers. 100th of 1% of all missing children. >> jesse: when i was younger, i would roam around for hours unattended. i turned out all right. when i moved into a neighborhood in the suburbs, we did a little map of the sex offenders to find out if there were any perverts in the hood. times have changed. i've been marked on and have also narcs. i have called for loud noises. i have had people in the dark on me for being loud and obnoxious. i will like it.

i will reserve the right tone narc when it affects my sleep. >> pam: you have tried to shut down parties, loud music? >> jesse: yeah. you know what, i need my beauty rest. >> greg: i think it is hard to be a parent now. it's just hard. your child can't be alone, only when they are playing video games. >> dana: you are afraid to do anything. you're afraid to let your kids take off. do you think dogs can't attack? they are the worst. >> greg: they are. all dogs think they are wolves. it's not like they know they have been changed. they don't know they have gone through the transition. are they still wolves in their head? like h allawi and a doberman still think they are part of the same group. >> juan: do you think we are responsible, anything we, anything involving a little kid, we go bananas and i think it scares people. >> greg: that exaggeration of that kind of coverage leads people to think there's a bigger

problem. >> dana: there are situations where people are put in jail. i know someone who was shackled and basically put in a jail cell. they said he could leave at 1:00 p.m. they kept him there didn't process him until 2:00 a.m. >> juan: a parent? >> dana: yes. there was a call. got to do the investigation. the guy was held in jail for two days. then they were like, we are sorry. >> jesse: i would take matters into my own hands. if i know i got knocked down by a neighbor, i would go around tk and knock on every door with my daughter and say it was you, wasn't it and try to see if i could get someone to flip. >> greg: it's like an episode of watters' world. president trump pushing for stricter immigration laws after the murder of mollie tibbetts. ♪

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♪ >> mollie is this beautiful young girl. she was killed by a horrible person that came in from mexico illegally here, found by i.c.e., our great i.c.e., abused by the democrats in the left. without them, you might not be sitting here so comfortably right now. when you have bad laws. you can do better if you had good laws. they will all get change. we need to elect more republicans. >> jesse: president trump blasting democrats calling for tougher immigration laws after the tragic death of mollie tibbetts. an illegal immigrant is charged with the brutal murder. the preliminary autopsy shows the college student was killed by multiple chart force injuries. newt gingrich saying the debate sparked by the story could play a big role in the midterms. i speak i think mollie tibbetts could be a more important person

had september and october than paul manafort ever dreamed of. she was killed by a person who is exactly what trump has been warning about. i think the left has to bear the burden of being a party tolerating americans being killed by people who are here illegally. >> jesse: juan, do you agree with the speaker's analysis? >> juan: no. but it is so blatant. you wonder. he basically said we are politicizing this for the midterms, and we are going to use it. you think yourself wait a minute. yesterday i sat on the show that i was reminded, kate steinle's brother had said he doesn't understand why people tried to politicize, sensationalize his sister's murder. today i am reading, and i see that some conservatives have been tweeting about this, along the lines that newt gingrich was describing. then there was a comment from one, ms. tibbetts' cousin saying

my family lost a member and this is the response? her aunt saying "evil comes in every color, all kinds of people." again, some people say this is an opportunity to distract and distort so we don't have to talk about manafort. >> greg: there is more gaining gun crime then school shootings, so should we just not consider school shootings? no, we want to address both of them. i think both sides, to your point, need to stop conflating these things. when people are outraged by a crime by an illegal, they aren't blaming a whole group. they want the system fix. likewise, when someone says we should not treat all illegals as potential murderers, you don't want to call them an accomplice. there is a middle ground and it is called trying to fix the system. one way to do it, to prevent a crime is enhanced border security as one part in one too tool. >> juan: then we can have a real conversation. but this is not that

conversation. >> pam: it is. as a prosecutor, take up politics. i look at it one victim at a time. we have a beautiful dead girl with a family grieving, and i think when the facts come out, there may be more about the abuse, probably most likely that she suffered. we don't have the death penalty sadly in iowa. but i feel like we have two fix the problem. here, so many gains are coming into this country through mexico. drugs are flowing in. i know this firsthand. drugs are flowing into our country through mexico. fentanyl, heroin. ms-13, all these gangs, they are so credible. they used to be unorganized and now they are not. they are bringing kids in an 11, 12. committing economic crimes. and human trafficking. if we can stop that, this is how we can do it. we've got to secure our borders. >> jesse: do you think mollie's name is going to play a larger role in the midterms questioning >> dana: i was thinking about a couple

different laws where you had ted cases that become the reason you passed legislation. for example, we know the amber alert system. the amber alert system is based on -- i don't remember the particulars but that little girl's life ended up being something where all of us collectively can work together to try to find out if there's a problem. i don't know, the success of amber alerts? >> pam: they are incredible. we have silver alerts for seniors missing. >> dana: her parents said let's try to work with this, and a smart legislator figure that out. jesse's law, that's in california. very specific. it could be of a situation where you have a crime that ends up actually helping a lot of other people in the future so that that death is not in vain. >> jesse: like kate's law, which happened after kate steinle which was if you are an illegal immigrant and you

cross the border and you're convicted of a felony and you get caught coming back from a mandatory five year sentence. it passed the house but not the senate because all the border security stuff is tied up in the senate don't think there's anything wrong, juan, when there's a major event in the country, if it tragedy, some sort of brutal or heinous act, politicians getting together and try and find solutions to the problem to prevent future incidents similar to that from happening again. >> juan: i don't have any objection. i am one who has said we need to have, pensive immigration reform. we need to have a conversation. we've had conversations at this table in a much better fashion than they have in the house of representatives of the u.s. senate. but in this case, i think what you were seen is blatant, obnoxious politicization by people for running away from all of the corruption president trump. >> greg: the defendant's lawyer also mentioned trump. i would call that

politicization. we shouldn't forget who said never let a tragedy go to waste. it might've been rahm emanuel. it was repeated. >> jesse: the lawyer for the alleged undocumented immigrant is going to be on martha maccallum's show tonight so we are going to hear more from him. when she is not busy railing against the 1%, socialism loving senator elizabeth warren is raking in the cash. details next. ♪ flintstones! meet the flintstones. ♪ ♪ they're the modern stone age family. ♪

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♪ >> pam: elizabeth warren has taken another apparent step towards running against president trump in 2020. the liberal senator is released ten years of her tax returns, and it turns out the left-wing critic of the 1% is actually part of the group she consistently bashes. since 2008, warren and her husband have earned almost $10 million. dana, do you think she's running for president? >> dana: this is a good p.r. stunt for her. when she ran for senate, her opponent asked for six years of her tax returns. she refused. she gave four. now she has done ten, but that's most of the year she's been a senator. we still don't have anything before 2008.

why? my guess is because back then she was a corporate attorney for really big corporate firms and she was making a lot of money and she would look like a hypocrite if she were to actually put them out there. my guess is there's more in these tax returns. the thing is, president trump can hit her on this because he's not going to release his tax returns either. but her democratic opponent in the primary canon they will. >> pam: they certainly will. juan, do you think this is capitalism? >> juan: yeah. she said she's a capitalist. she said outright. the other part of this is bernie sanders. i think bernie sanders -- >> pam: they both made a lot. >> juan: 70 makes money off books, i think greg would testify we are for that. >> pam: your books are great books. >> juan: i think people like bernie's book. to me, the big news here the right is saying imagine elizabeth warren complaining about the 1%. she's part of the 1%.

oh, wait a second. donald trump, donald trump, doesn't release tax returns, who won't divest himself from his own companies while he's in office in the white house making money who has all these aids taking trips on public dollars and you want to complain about elizabeth warren? >> dana: he has plenty he can hit her on. >> pam: i think it's a stretch. he's done a lot to create opportunity for a lot of people. jesse, what do you think? >> jesse: she is running. it's a cagey cagey move to rele tax returns now. she has done well for herself, and her husband has done well. almost making a million. she's got some nice properties. i thought it was really smart for her to have the drain the swamp piece of legislation. she wants to ban former members of congress and senators and presidents from becoming lobbyists when they leave office.

i mean, that will dry up the entire swamp right there. i think it's illegal. you can't tell someone what to do once they leave office. they can do whatever they want. that's how the system works. but it's my separate and i commend her for it. did i just say that? >> greg: it is not about the tax returns and not about being rich. none of us have problems with people getting rich. the issue is that they have a problem with people getting ric rich. the true rich liberal is -- has -- they love the money. they got theirs but now they want to take yours. she's an example of economic inequality because there are people in her state that make less money than her and that's not fair. but i am smart. i know economic inequalities the consequence of capitalism. where there is an opportunity in which you have the freedom to do better than other people, you will do better than other people, and people will do not as well as you. but she gets it wrong because she is for equality of outcome,

not equality of opportunity. that's why they are hypocrites. >> juan: don't you think there's such a thing as too big to fail, and if we bail out the big boys on wall street and the big boys take care of themselves and everything from college admissions to tax breaks. >> jesse: she has a point when it comes to big bank bailouts but i think what she's got wrong and i agree with greg. you don't help poor people by making less people less rich. >> juan: i don't think that's what she's saying. she is saying you have to have -- have -- >> jesse: she is for tax hikes and raising taxes on corporations. >> juan: she is saying you have to have regulations in place to these big companies don't abuse people and for example, you know, president trump supporters out there saying income equality is high. they are closing my plants. guess who was doing that? the hedge fund guys on wall street and she is saying we need to stop it. >> jesse: if she is going to run against wall street, she's never going to get the

democratic nomination for president. >> pam: right. that's right. "one more thing" is up next.

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this was made by a 45-year-old stockbroker named steve. that would be weird. it's mattie o'neill ferment long beach, california, it's a unicorn holding an american flag. two things i love immensely. here we go, let's go to massachusetts. there he is, springfield country club and a fox enters the picture. i think this is around the eighth hole, there he goes, comes in. there is the arrow, the magical arrow. and he takes the ball. that's fox news. the fox was executed. i'm kidding, he's living the high life in vermont. >> dana: you know how i will never go whale watching? i'll tell you why.

watch this, these whale watchers had a close encounter this week off the shores of pleasant island alaska. they sound like they are having a great time, without any warning a large humpback whale just out of the water before crashing down near the boat soaking everyone on board. they way as 40 tons and are as big as a school bus. i watch from afar and will never go whale watching. >> jesse: i'm going to be wailing the heck out of democrats tonight. i'm mastering this double plug. check out this kid, he's looking in the mirror and watch his reflection. his reflection leaves the shop faster than the actual boy. watch the reflection. >> greg: what are we doing? >> jesse: of the reflection is

moving before the boy moves. is this video doctored? i don't know red i was in the laboratory all afternoon. >> juan: you are in my one more thing because football is back. for the first time tonight on thursday night, it will be on fox. it's jesse's super bowl champion philadelphia eagles against last year's winless cleveland browns. take a look at this. bud light has promised to open when the browns finally win a game. there at select bars around the city, they will be unlocked via wi-fi connection the moment the browns are in the win column. >> greg: why are we plugging this? is before the oddsmakers say the browns should win one this season, the odds are 750-1.

>> dana: the eagles should throw the game. >> juan: its preseason. >> pam: back to school started and i have one more law enforcement officer that i have to talk about, school resource officer of the year jim long. i got to name him in school resource officer of the year in marion county. there was a shooting in a school end of this deputy ran into the line of fire. he ran into the school, you can see it on his body cam. we have the whole video up there for you but without regard for himself went into harm's way, captured the bad kid at the school, everyone survived. this man is a hero. thank you corporal jim long for

everything that you do to make our state safe. >> dana: set your dvrs, never miss an episode of the five, "special report" is up next. >> bret: president trump says the market would crash if he was impeached. if a member of the paul manafort trial gives us a behind the scene glimpse into the deliberations, and should the federal government provided guns to teachers at your children's schools? this is "special report" ." ♪ welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. president trump says he deserves an a+ for his accomplishment as president, and if he were to be impeached the economy would fai fail. the comments, amid increasing talk of possible legal and political problem for him