updays about senator john mccain as they may come in. >> that's it for us, have a nice weekend everybody. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: fox news alert, new developments in the criminal case against michael cohen. a source telling fox news the chief financial officer of the trump organization, allen wise elberg was granted immunity in the cohen investigation. he reportedly testified before a grand jury earlier this year. this is "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner. here today, fox business network ank kosh dag-in mechanic dowell, lisa boothe, commentator and fox news krmgtdor rachel campos-duffy, co-host of "the five" juan williams is here. he's outnumbered. i love that summertime tiffany colored tie. >> it's that time of year, a lot of people go to the beach, vacation.

>> i love harris knows the specific color. i would be like that's a nice turquoise. >> i might love the tie but we're not going to be nicer. >> oh! >> coming in hot on a friday. >> unbelievable week of news. >> harris: let's move o. >> isn't that every week? >> harris: wiseleberg a long-time financial chief for the trump organization, took kr0689 company's financial operations along with the president's two eldest sons when president trump took office. he reportedly was involved with cohen in making quote unquote hush money payments to porn star stormy daniels and former playboy model mcdougal. this coming on the heels of federal prosecutors granting immunity to national enquirer chief david pecker in the cohen case. that happened yesterday. pecker, a long-time ally of the president.

and the associated press quoting sources who say the enquirer kept the safe filled with documents on hush money payments and other potentially damaging stories on the president as the tabloid is said to do with many celebrities. cohen's attorney has told cnn he believes his client would be willing to testify before congress without immunity. juan, i come to you first. democrats have talked the word impeachment. and i'm curious, now, if that will stay in the mow nomenclature for you, or you'll see where things shake out? >> i don't think there is avoiding the reality when you have the president's personal lawyer say in open court in the course of his plea that the president was involved with this, and then you have the repeated contribute,s or changes in stories coming from the president, that his political opponents would say, well, is this merit impeachment. i think the big question is how it plays for the mid terms. and does it fire up, you see

that republicans are saying, hey, look at maxine watters, look at all of these democrats talking impeachment. they see it as stimulating their base to turn out for those mid terms. the backlash could be who hurts them, especially in areas of the country suburban districts that the republicans need to maintain or retain, i should say, if they hope to hold the house, the majority of the house, by saying to women, hey, you know there's a lot of corruption and static around this president that might make you uncomfortable. >> harris: lisa? >> we have people like annie mccarthy saying that the president's legal liability as well. in terms of the politics, i don't think it helps republicans that we have had a handful of republicans as have late, charges brought against them, look at most recently duncan hunter and collins. certainly doesn't help in templts narrative against republicans. but in regard to impreechlt that only matters if democrats win

the house and take it back in large majority. you look at the senate, seems to be relatively safe, i don't see democrats trying to move forward with impeachment if it hits a roadblock in the senate, republicans retain the senate. the impeachment talk doesn't mean much if democrats win back the house, i mentioned earlier, you will see a ton of congressional hearings and a lot of noise. >> harris: rachel, are you getting out on the campaign trail, the president promised he will be out there six, seven days. the secret service is like can we see that schedule? >> right, a lot. more than oi they are president. >> harris: when you look at that, and the power that the president has had, helping candidates win, if you were on the bubble or assuming were you in trouble right now, do you still call on the president, with all that's going on? i'm wondering how all of this plays for individual candidates as lisa points out, she didn't say president trump, she said what it's like for republicans. >> all politics is roll. local f you're from a suburban

district with lots of women, they never liked president trump that much anyway, a lot voted for hillary. he wasn't anyone they would bring n you notice the president tweeting, he's reminding them, they're coming after me but they never looked at hillary clinton. they never proved collusion. i looked at the name pecker cohen, no russian names. that tells me that mueller has given up on russian collusion, the original reason why he started this, where this investigation was started. and, again, it looks unfair. that will bring out the base as well as a fear that they may go for impeachment. once they take power. >> harris: kimberly strasle has a column in the wall street journal about this very thing. >> if you look at campaign finance violations, look at the clinton campaign paying fusion gps money, funneling it through a law firm, to put together the dossier against president trump and listing it as legal services.

she just wants fair play and equal application of the law. to that point, since i'm money and finance for a living, going after allen wiseleberg granting him immunity in the cohen probe, the tentacles of the octopus that started with the special counsel investigation into russian interference in the election, these tentacles are getting longer and longer. they lead the an ex-pornography actress, ex-employ boy model. when you start looking at the -- playboy model. when you look at the finances of the trump organization, the subpoena subpena of michael cohen with regard to the trump foundation, the state of new york, the trump organization could face criminal charges from the manhattan district attorney, the "new york times" reported that earlier today. so, this is a much bigger legal problem. and kind of evident with wiseleberg, this is evidence, i

think, that president trump will never, ever sit down for an interview with the special counsel. >> harris: i want to get this in, mark penn, former palestinian clinton advisor, on the tabloid chief given immune yipt, taking immunity, watch. >> he's the person actually making the contribution or expenditure, and so they're not really interested in that. they're only interested in tying things to trump. on the matters that we already decided, look, i went through impeachment with plik, these issues -- about president clinton, what happened with women, consensual and legal activities can't be turned into crimes and the american people won't stand for this. same thing with john edwards, aquilted, they were not campaign violations, they're personal expenditures. >> harris: interesting, because i saw anthony scaramucci saying that this president ought to take the john edwards defense and come out with whatever it is. i watched the video with him

this morning where he said there could be more of these women. he was speculating. he threw out the number ten. the point he'smaking and made on it overtime as well, get out in front of this now. that safe has something in it. >> get out ahead on the women? >> harris: whatever the story is going to be. if it's not illegal, and it looks like these payments wouldn't be because he was paying women not to crack up his marriage is what scar much jeff and other people have -- scaramucci and others have said y not hit the facts before they go drip, drip, drip. >> let me disagree. >> harris: it's not my opinion. >> well, i'll tell you my opinion. it would be an in-kind contribution. he would have to have said i am making this contribution to pay off these women. it's not the payoff, it's the idea, and this is what we heard from cohen in open court, the president was involved in setting up this deal. because although in the john edwards case you had people who made general contributions, what

the jury decided was that he -- they didn't know he was going to use the money for that purpose. the president knew he was using the money for that purpose, at that time, right before the election -- >> harris: ho do you know that he's on tape saying it and we have the time line. >> long before he started running for office -- >> harris: he isn't on tape saying -- >> he's on tape, cohen has tape they're discussing how the payment should be made. >> harris: the why of it, that's what matters. >> even if it an s.e.c. violation, they're met with fines. president obama, 2008, was one of the largest violations, levied against a president. >> they're typically treated as civil not criminal cases. that's the abomination. the legal liability as well, many people have been saying in regard to the politics of this, sure it's going to drive out partisans in suburban districts that don't like trump, but it doesn't touch them -- >> how about the political

excuse the democrats used for bill clinton, it's just lies about sex, to quote andy mccarthy. >> how will it affect the mid-term races. there's a lot of people who voted for trump angry, they feel he's unfairly targeted and hillary was given a pass and they're going after him. and the message to the american people, if you an outsider, somebody who wants to run for president and the political class did not annoint you, the insiders, the elites in washington, political class will destroy it. that's what i think donald trump is trying to bring in. >> that sounds like spin. the swamp is now defined by trump and his associates. >> or you could say it's the leaders of the fbi and the d.o.j., a lot of people believe. >> harris: i'll step in with a bit of breaking news. it's developing at this hour. an update, now, on the health of senator john mccain rg the long-serving arizona republican and vietnam war hero.

has been battling brain cancer as you noef. today the mccain family issued this statement, john has surpassed expectations for his survival. but the progress of disease and the advance of vang render the verdict. with the usual strength of will he has chosen to discontinue medical treatment. our family is immensely grateful for the support and the kindness of all caregivers over the last year and for the continuing outpouring of concern and affection from john's many friends and associates. and the many thousands of people who are keeping him in their prayers. end quote. senator mccain is of course in our thoughts and prayers. my friend, megan, i am with you in spirit today. we'll bring you any updates we can on his condition. judge brett kavanaugh and skeptical democrats, why the supreme court nominee may have to put some of their concerns to rest.

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fieshing back at attorney general jeff sessions after sessions pushed back against the president's criticism in a statement defending his performance of the d.o.j. sessions vowing that he won't be you influenced by political considerations. this morning, the president tweeted this. quoting part of sessions statement that the d.o.j. will not be improperly influence by political considerations, adding, jeff, this is great. what everybody wants. so look into all of the corruption on the other side including deleted e-mails, comey lies and likes, mueller conflicts, mccabe, strzok, page, chris to per steele and his phony incorrupt dossier, the clinton foundation illegal surveillance of the trump campaign. russian collusion by dems and so much more. open up the papers and documents

without redaction. come, on jeff, can you do it, the country is waiting, exclamation point. rachel smiled my way. some republicans say firing sessions would be a bad idea. >> the idea that he might be fired because he isn't a political hack is a very, very bad idea. a bad idea for the constitution, bad idea for public trust and the department of justice, a bad idea for the. united states. >> harris: senate jusdishry chairman chuck grass lee saying he could make time for hearings on a new attorney general. senator lindsay graham jumped onboard bringing in a new sheriff at the d.o.j. here it is. >> there's just not a good healthy working relationship, from what i can tell. and for the good of the nation, i think we need an attorney general that has the confidence of the president. i'm not blaming jeff sessions. there is no finer man. but at the end of the day there are plenty of conservative judges and lawyers that i think

could do this job that we can get somebody confirmed. >> harris: rachel, i'll come to you first. i want to put it in context, too, lindsay graham said a nonstarter is before the mid-term elections. conversation started to kind of change and by nighttime, you had the go back and forth between the president and jeff sessions. . it's clear that -- lindsay graham before said never, he should never get rid of a.g. sessions. >> harris: that was 2017. >> yes. now it's clear that the president needs somebody who he trusts. but doing so before the mid terms, i agree, would be very tumultuous, not good for the prospects of holding on to the house or the senate. it's a good compromise. i personally never understood why sessions has held on this long. i don't want to work for somebody who doesn't want me to work for them. while i think he's done a fairly good job on some of these immigration issues and dealing

with ms13, it's very clear they're not on the same page. what frustrates not just the president but those who voted for him is that it just seems unfair. it's fine if sessions wanted to recuse himself, okay, i understand, i think that was a fair assessment on his part he didn't have to but he did for proprietary, the way it looked. why hasn't he gone after hillary clinton? why is peter strzok still working there? there's lots of questions that people have to go, just, he says it's nonpolitical. but he's not looking at it with the same fairness, when it comes to hillary clinton and the democrats. >> it's not just hillary clinton and those democrats you mentioned. you can, looking at the inaction, you can smell the fecklessness up here in new york city. cha john chaffetz, chairman of the house oversight committee, told how hillary clinton's former i.t. guy didn't show up for two subpoenas.

they subpoenaed time twice. jason chaffetz went to jeff sessions and said to show the equal application of the law that there is a rule of law this guy needs to be prosecuted. jeff sessions said to him, chaffetz said earlier, jeff sessions said he's too close to hillary clinton. dismissed it. this isn't the only instance. >> what is clear about all of this, when jeff sessions was in the process of being confirmed, he was painted by the media on the left as this racist, putin puppet. guarantee the second that president trump fires him he's going to be heralded as a great guy and how dare president trump fire him, this is what happens, the way the media and the left work. i don't think he should have recused toms work with. the things he was attacked with, the security form, he was doing what the fbi told him to in the process of filling them out. you also look at him, what meetings with some individuals who are tied to russian officials.

guess what, a lot of the same people criticizing him for the meetings, clare mccaskill, did the same thing. if he recused himself, why is rod rosenstein there, he's the guy that recommended comey for firing and is still there. >> harris: that's the point of the hearing. not the hearing but the confirmation, if you can get to this issue before the mid terms, if there is room to open that up, then you appoint somebody else and it wouldn't be rod rosenstein scooting up to the top of the lils the to carry on the investigation. >> pick lindsey graham or some one like that. jaun i think sessions thinks he's protecting the integrity of the american justice system. and giving a buffer to the american people, against what could devolve have into a political food fight. >> harris: devolve have? we're there. >> if you use the department of justice to opinionish your political enemies, i think the country isn't in a good place.

>> not for a second do i believe the democrats would sit back and take it if somebody spied on barack obama's campaign. >> what are you talking about? they had a fisa warrant -- >> based on fault information. >> i don't want to get into the weeds on. this i'm just telling you, i think that right now, when we have the president talking about how it's not appropriate to make a deal -- hang on a second, he's flipping, lots of people have flipped. this sounds like a criminal enterprise and he's trying to defend himself and his associates from the law. >> what is the difference -- >> you have an attorney general, our top law enforcement officer acting on a political agenda. >> juan, juan dash what's the difference between jeff sessions holding up the integ riflt d.o.j. or some one like lindsay graham if that's who president trump chose to fill that spot? what would the difference be? >> i think lindsay graham is a

fine lawyer, too, i think he would try -- >> why not fire self sessions and nominate him? >> if you fire jeff sessions it would be done through a political lens -- >> you and democrats -- >> no, no, i didn't plead guilty in open court -- >> he can higher and fire whoever he wants. >> the politics is that he would be seen in the light of the saturday night massacre. wipe out jeff sessions -- >> wait a minute, can we point out -- this is talk and no walk. this is president trump tweeting about it. and hammering jeff sessions for not doing his job which he hasn't been doing. but he hasn't fired anybody. he hasn't fired bob mueller. he's actually trying to jaw bone jeff sessions into doing a better job. if we're going to shunt up that brass trophy for -- shine up the trophy -- >> it's not about doing a better job, it's going after trump's political opponents and distrabting the american people from trump's trouble. >> harris: can i add, we're

going to be talking about this in "overtime," i've been reading up on the fact this is a bit of a taunt on twitter. you could see a guy like attorney general sessions up until yesterday when he enumerated the list of things he feels like he's ee effectuating the president's promises to make america great again, he as been effective at doing. if he were to quit, the president then, as i understand it, could step in and make a temporary replacement of him. so for republicans now to say we might even be able to make a little room for him on the schedule before the mid terms, this starts to get complicated for democrats. and do you just want to be shouting at the wind about impeachment and screaming about this and about the other or paying attention to what is really actually happening. and so it may not be the president trying to be, you know, mean on twitter. there could be some strategy. >> he has rudy guiliani, he has a legal team.

>> harris: sessions quits he apoints whom he wants. along with senator and graham and others, he has the right to put in these positions whomever he would like. can you call it a massacre if you like, but you could just call it his right to do so. >> it's the president's right. we all know all of the details about the dossier, about this, about that. the american people are looking at this and looking at the way hillary and her people, how were they treated, were they put, was the squeeze put on them the same way the squeeze was put on cohen. and all of the other people they're trying to take down. >> are you kidding me? there was no announcement of a russian investigation during the campaign. twice, twice jim comey goes before the cameras and speaks about hillary clinton. in fact ten days before the election. now you want to go back and act as if, they never investigated hillary clinton. [all talking at once] >> is the president paying off a

mistress for $130 before he was ever president. and a sitting secretary of state who willfully deleted subpoenaed, confidential -- can i make the point. >> these have been long ago litigated. this president in terms of this campaign -- >> you guys are making this way too complicated. all it comes down to. trump has the right to fire some one like jeff sessions if he wants. >> sure. >> and put whoever he wants there. if he chooses some one like lindsay graham, i think would be palatable to both sides, how can you make an argument with it. >> they're doing it in the midst of the campaign and undermining the american justice system. >> i can make an argument, you got to get brett kavanaugh confirmed to the supreme court of the united states. instead of worrying about replacing your feckless a.g., as i've called him earlier. and at the same time, only agenda item for the democrats is impeachment. whether they're whispering it or nodding and wiferking about it.

meantime, stock market hitting an all-time high today. >> harris: the s.e.c. is on friar. we'll move on, i was watching it. reports with the man accused of murdering iowa college student mollie tibets is an illegal immigrants have reignited the immigration debate. now the suspect's attorney is going after president trump for using his client's immigration status in what that attorney says is a politically motivated way. we will take on the debate, look at how it could affect the mid-term elections. stay with us. >> i think it is playing a big role. yes, the constitution provides that anybody in this jurisdiction has equal protection under the law and the law includes presumption of innocence. why did i want a crest 3d white smile? dinner date. meeting his parents, dinner date. so i used crest. crest 3d white removes 95% of surface stains in just 3 days, for a whiter smile that will win them over. look for a one dollar coupon in this sunday's paper.

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mollie tibbetts slamming the commander in chief after he seized on prosecutors describing rivera as an illegal alien. to highlight his calls for immigration reform. rivera referred to the president as sad and sorry trump. he had this to say last night on the story. >> i think that people are buying into the concepts and notions that mr. trump is bringing forward, and at this stage in the process it's not proper. the situation he's involved with, concerning his status, has nothing to do with the situations that unfortunately happened over there on that road. i'm sorry. >> this comes action a fox news poll shows the majority of americans are very or somewhat concern that illegal immigration increases crime and 47% say it's changing american culture. why do democrats take such issue with the simple statement that mollie tibbetts and kate steinly

would be alive if the illegal immigrant killers weren't allowed to come into this country? what you seeing is the politicization of the immigration status f you look at the statistics, as they indicate, people who are not only illegal immigrants but legal immigrants are less likely to commit violent or property crimes in the country. when people like newt beginning grim, he said this openly, we hope that mollie tibbetts and her name and her murder is a bigger issue than anything having to do with cohen or manafort, this is about politics. it's not grieving for the loss of this terrific young woman. >> is it not a true statement to say they would still be alive? >> i don't know. >> juan: i think i'm taken guy what mollie tibbetts' family said, which was evil comes in all colors, legal and illegal immigrants and people. and i'm taking also kind stinle,

do why do we need to politicize this, let us grieve. >> some on the left, for years have preached at the american people, your words hurt, your words trigger, i need a safe space, i need a sanctuary from legitimate debate. at the same time it's like, don't point at me, that's a micro-impression. this week we've seen such a lack of sensitivity toward the death of this young woman. toward the grieving that not just her family feels but that really all americans should feel. there has been a vacuum of compassion among some of these people on the left. it is shocking considering that they have spent so much time lecturing us about you can't say that because it hurts me. it's appalling, juan. >> juan: i think it's the people on the right who are not in

touch with the grief. >> what she's referring -- >> because we don't want another murder to occur, if an illegal immigrant wasn't in the country? >> juan: i wouldn't want anybody to lose a child and i wouldn't want any of us to be harmed by anybody. the question is, what is at stake. now what we heard from that lawyer is that we should be talking about the legal process not the immigration status. that's all. >> harris: let me step in to where the politics have interjected and might be helpful. you know, we had on senator joanie earns the, her home state is in iowa, she told me about sarah's law. there are a lot of similarities between what happened to mollie tibbetts and this other young woman, sarah, years ago. that person is still a fugitive. while her suspected killer was arrested he was let go on a bail low enough that a relative met it then he fled.

they haven't seen him since. and so not only is the legislation still an open book, president trump put some of it into law in 2017, that would deal with the issues, the vetting issues, so on, so forth. but not the total law. that's what they're working on. why do i bring that up? sometimes there is an opening to talk about the politics which could be part of the solution. what's happening, though, is that as the solution gets brought up, everybody wants to bifurcate their side of it to make use of it. that's particularly sad. let's not blanket all. lawmakers with they're getting involved and it's not a good thing. are there going to be enough democrats to support sarah's will you to go forward. >> juan: allow me a second to respond to maris. -- harris that, is rational and reasonable. we should have discussions about immigration reform in the country. unfortunately, the discussions we see on capitol hill do not agree with you.

>> harris: not all. >> juan: going back to president bush in '60, president obamand the gang of eight in i think it was '13, guess what, it's hard right republicans who have blocked comprehensive immigration reform. >> hold on, hold on. i want to finish -- it'll take two seconds. i want you to admit some democrats, some on the left, have been irrational and unreasonable when talking about this. >> juan: sure. >> girl, please, deserve an apology all day long for that. >> that's not an accurate statement. there was a compromise form of immigration reform that came to the house floor, not a single democrat that voted for it. democrats have not really demonstrated that they're actually willing to solve these problems. you look under both administrations, republicans and democrats, immigration reform has not gotten done. that's not a truthful statement. we have 30 seconds. >> i don't want to employment size her death, it's tragic.

but i look at what the democrats want to talk, about cohen and trump and all that. and i look at this issue, it really affects me, much more, safety, security. i think that that's what, when you say we don't want to politicize it, people, politics business what affects my life whether it's ms-13 or lack of security at the borders, those are issues that touch peoples lives. the family that will never see their little girl again. >> we can all agree that we are, our hearts are broken for this family that had to endure a horrible loss. we pray for them. we can end on that. will, she said she's not going anywhere and that she can, quote, take the heat. nancy pelosi's vow to hold on to power despite facing opposition from a growing number of democrats. and being at the center of so many gop ads. how is she helping her pham party or hurting them? we'll get to the bottom of it. a hurting them? we'll get to the bottom of it. ♪ flintstones! meet the flintstones. ♪

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>> nancy pelosi has a message for her growing critics, she's not going anywhere. the house democratic leader telling the a.p., quote, this is not anything to make a big fuss over. it's politics. i can take the heat, that's why i stay in the kitchen. she all but dares her doubters to envision any other house democrat sitting across the table to negotiate with trump saying, quote, i have a following in the country that's unsurpassed by anybody unless they're running for president. the defiant wourdz from pelosi come as at least 10 incumbent house democrats say they will not support her as speaker if democrats retake the house. more than 40 democratic candidates say they won't support her either. harris, go. >> harris: i'm confused by that one point. juan does that mean she can never lead your party? she has a following

unprecedented, except for if she were to run for president. i mean it's not everybody's goal but as long as she's been in politics she ought to be able to including everything. >> what an arrogant statement. >> juan: i think i saw yesterday congress' overall rating is 17%. republicans and democrats don't like congress. paul ryan's rating is down in the tank. >> harris: people don't think they accomplish anything. >> mcconnell's ratings. i'm glad to talk about nancy pelosi. >> juan: nancy pelosi is taking a key stance here. republicans could use her and will use her in television ads -- >> harris: already are. >> juan: -- to attack democrats. dm knows bonuses are just crumbs. it is corporations just putting the shmooze on. nd it's pathetic. $2,000 is a pathetic punch of

crumbs? >> juan, do you like nancy pelosi? >> juan: like or not like is not the issue, she's an effective leader in terms of legislation and a huge fundraiser for the democrats. >> is she a liability? >> that's an interesting point, juan. a lot of the democrats saying i won't vote for nancy pelosi if she becomes speaker of the house -- if she runs for speaker, if we take the house, are taking her money. she is a great fundraiser. they disavow but they're not disavowing the money she's pouring into the coughs of their campaign -- coffers of their campaign. they should disavow the campaign money. >> juan: i don't know if they're taking the money. >> they are. >> juan: the incumbents are. the people who will vote against pelosi in the democratic caucus. i doubt they will vote against pelosi on who the speaker should be. >> she is a liability. you admitted, i had asked if you she was a liability, you said

yes. >> juan: yes, you saw dagen's reaction, dagen is running her commercials. >> tax cuts are, she's going to roll back the tax cuts. she said that -- >> juan: oh, please, revisit them. >> i worked on campaigns where she's been a liability, when i was at the nrcc in 2010, we went after nancy pelosi, we've seen it in the georgia election, pop up in all of these other special elections. she is a liability for democrats and the terms that she invokes a lot of anger for republicans. they don't like her. which is why we've seen so many democrats along the campaign trail disavow her, they know how poisonous, politically, she is. >> juan: and go back to pennsylvania, he simply said i wouldn't vote for nancy pelosi, took the issue off the table. republicans love hating on it. >> well, for the mid terms, then if she takes -- if the democrats take the house, they'll go for her.

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>> o'roarke was asked fw nfl players kneeling. and he gave a long, long answer that ended with, he, quote, couldn't think of anything more american than kneeling in protest to national anthem. [booing] now, i have a couple of things on. that number one, i don't think i've ever seen a great american group do more damage to itself than the nfl has. >> that was senator ted cruz slamming his mid-term challenger, o'roarke, for his comments defending the nfl players.

o'roarke was neck and neck with cruz in the polls, took a question while at a campaign stop in houston and said, quote, there's nothing more american, end quote, than the protest. come partd them to the civil rights movement of the 1960s. a hot button issue that divides fans. but that didn't stop hollywood elites from gloating in admiration of the defense of the players. senator cruz shot back, quote, most texans stand for the flag. but hollywood liberals are so excited that he's siding with players protesting the national anthem, kevin bacon retweeted it. all of us can win six degrees of kevin bacon, online game that people play. juan, a lot of hollywood swooning over what he said. it's been retweeted millions and millions of times. is that the kind of sentiment that's going to win over the voters that he wants to win over in the texas election? >> i think it'll excite people

who feel the players have been unfairly vilified. >> what about in texas? >> in texas. >> it's nice to get hollywood to like you. but texas? >> i don't think it's just hollywood. lebron james, people all over the country have been saying, hey, you know what, you can disagree on this issue without calling the other side unpatriotic or rude. peaceful protest is protected by our flag, our constitution. that's an american ideal. >> lisa, you worked at the nrcc. would this quote from behto be a gift to the republican nrcc, or -- senatorial commit if i they're looking at this race? >> you look at majority of americans, you look at poll after poll with senator ted cruz on this issue, yeah, they're probably going to agree more. what i find frustrating is that president trump actually has done a lot on the issue of criminal justice reform. if these players were to choose to take this off the field where they're working in the private sector, for their business, i don't think they have the right

to the protest on the clock, while they're working. but if they were to take this off the field there would be areas of compromise with president trump on criminal justice reform. i find that ironic if they took it off the field and had a conversation with them. it would produce something positive. >> harris: an interesting point. the president touched and weighed in heavily on prison reform many times of the we think back just recently, oh yesterday, when he and jeff sessions actually were going back and forth. what they met on, at the white house, was prison reform. we don't know how fast things will go but we know at the bee hernt of some celebrities like kim kardashian and others, he is looking at certain issues. you don't want to take away from what is being done. you bring up the point, that's why i think it's really time for the players union to get involved in this. somebody has to figure out how they're going to set this will issue. we are now, we're doing thursday night football on fox. they're doing it in this studio

that we do "outnumbered" on. we're football watching people in my family. it would be nice to figure this out. as a person of color, while they're on their knees they can pray for the victims of domestic violence, those who have been accused in the nfl, a microcosm of the rest of society i've been told. or that the victims of shooting and murders in chicago. if you're going to make about it a prayer event, remember when dr. king knelt, he also bowed. peaceful protest, yes, in prayer too, why not take that as part of the mantra as well. >> pray for every family battling cancer. every individual in this country. one thing i'll point out about behto o'roarke taking this issue, on he jumped past texas. he's working on a national stage. you take this stand, maybe because you want to get invited to lebron james' house the next time you're in ohio, maybe. or los angeles. but you take it on because

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>> harris: you're jumping ahead, don't jump this weekend, rachel,

host of fox and friends all weekend. get down -- pay attention. love you all. harris, it is all yours, dear. >> harris: thank you, dagen. fox news alert now. the man at the center of finances for the trump organization just struck a deal for immunity with federal prosecutors. it is in the michael cohen criminal investigation. we go "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. source telling fox news, allen weisselberg provided information to investigators about payments cohen made to two women during the 2016 campaign. weisselberg took control of the trump organization finances when president trump took office. live at the white house with the latest. we are perched to see what the response will be from the house behind you. >> we continue to await response by the white house. i can tell you this, weisselberg, it is believed, was one executive that helpe