and don't forget to watch justice tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern. i hope you'll tune in. sean's back on monday. the ingraham angle is next. have a great weekend. ♪ >>good evening, i'm jason in for laura ingraham. we've got an incredible show for you tonight with example after example of liberals ignoring the law when it serves their political interests. the gop has always been the party of law and order, but we're in unchartered territory when it comes to the left, whether it's sanctuary city, decriminalizing drugs or failing to stop rampant crime. the left routinely puts ideology

over the need to enforce the laws on the book. the latest on foxnews.com right now, an illinois judge slamming officials to failing to enforce a 2012 i.c.e. detainer against an illegal immigrant who was later able to beat and rape three women. he was sentenced to 80 years in prison on monday. let me tell you about two more stories, sad and tragic stories. hayley king was just 18 years old when in november of 2016 she was fatally hit by a speeding truck. the driver, an illegal immigrant named sergio rodriguez. he didn't stop after the accident because he feared being deported. and it doesn't get more tragic than this. an illegal immigrant crashed into his mother's car in new

mexico in 2012. hayley's mother and demetri's mother both join me to share their stories. i appreciate you coming on the show. our heart goes out to everybody who goes through this. as a parent myself, i can't even imagine the sadness that has gone through your family. and we appreciate you taking these moments and being brave enough to share your stories and perspective. i think you have more of a voice than anybody like myself or somebody who hasn't been through this. so, kcathy, donald trump has brought so much attention to the illegal immigrant status. is that the right thing to do? are we doing the right thing by talking about the status of these people? >> i believe so. my daughter would still be here today if the man would have stopped, if he would have been here legally. i think that if the american

public isn't aware of how many cases there actually are and what's going on, donald trump isn't going to be able to get anywhere with it. >> and, eileen, in your situation, we talk sometimes about the status, illegal, legal. sometimes people will argue, hey, that's not really a cogent part of the discussion. but what's your perspective? what are your thoughts? >> well, i think his citizenship status has a lot to say ability policy implications going forward and how we handle these things. it's really important. so as far as policy going forward, we definitely need to look at these cases and include their immigration status. >> first and foremost, we want

to remember those kids whose lives were taking far, far too early. but in the case of locking down the body -- border an the the immigration policies that move forward, what is the right thing we should do? >> we had a similar situation with my daughter's case. i've been on both areas of the fence with this one. the borders need to be locked down. when they come over here illegally, they do commit crimes to stay here illegally. i think that if we don't do something about the issue there, it's going to go well beyond the families that you are having on the show. my granddaughter was removed, given to a family that was not us after my daughter died. we are still fighting today to try to get my granddaughter back home with her family where she needs to be. but -- so i've had both sides of this issue.

my daughter should be here. eileen's son should be here. many, many, many other mothers and fathers. and it's going to be a lot more if we don't stop what's going on now. >> eileen, one of the public policy discussions people in congress are debating, you hear democrats say that we should get rid of i.c.e., that immigration customs enforcement should just be abolished. there's some that want more open borders. how do you react to that? >> i think i should start by saying that i'm not anti-immigrant. my grandfather came here to america in 1955 and became a citizen in 1960. but those who are coming in illegally and committing further crimes need to be re-addressed. and i think that this is something that we can easily correct. i don't think anybody in their right mind would sit there and say that we need to abolish i.c.e. they keep our country safe.

god bless those men and women. >> yeah. >> i agree. >> it's so true. cathy, eileen, i want to give you just each a moment, but tell us about your loss and how you want us to remember your -- how do you want us to remember hayley, for instance? >> hayley was the youngest of four children. she was always happy, laughing, loved everybody. she was hard of hearing and she could play music beautifully. but there wasn't anybody in this world that hayley wouldn't have put her hand out to help if they needed it. and i just, you know, if anything could ever be considered good coming out of this, i'm hoping that her story will get out there and help save some of their lives. >> and, eileen, what could you tell us about demetri and what you were going through at that time as a young mother?

>> demetri was my first child. he was incredible, fully formed, ten fingers, ten toes, had my nose, had my husband's hair and chin. fit from elbow to fingertip. that's how big he was when i got to hold him before giving him up to omi. he was greatly anticipated by my family. it was one of the first babies that we had had in decades. and he's sorely missed by his family. >> thank you for sharing your stories. i want to each give you one more chance. if you want to say something to people who serve in congress, who are our public policy makers, let's start with you, eile eileen, first, and then cathy, what would you say to them? >> well, we are doing the angel family rally in september in d.c., so please join us for

that. a lot of new angel moms will be there. people who previously didn't get their story out because they were wrapped up in legal proceedings and things like that. so it would be very informative for sure. in addition to that, wanting to see further legislation to make sure that these people who are committing heinous acts are deported. >> cathy. >> i agree with eileen. not all the lawmakers out there are against anything going on. there are some very good ones. there are two state representatives, two state senators that are helping with our case. and then also senator tom cotton has joined on board. and i'll be meeting with him in d.c. in september also. >> well, again, sorry for your loss. and we appreciate you taking the time and having the strength and fortitude to be able to share your story with others. it's heart wrenching and our hearts go out to you, but thank

you again for sharing your stories and being with us tonight. and may god bless you. >> thank you for having us. >> let's bring in michael cutler, formaler special agent with ins, and liberal radio talk show host garland nixon. garland, i have no doubt about your heart and your compassion. i know you care about those women and kids. i'm not trying to in any way, shape, or form give you anything other than 100% credit about caring. but when we talk about public policy, you hear these women and they talk about the need to target illegal immigrants and deport them and to deal with the immigration issue. abolish i.c.e.? where are you on this? and what do you say to those

women? >> i certainly understand. if you have a major loss like that, certainly you're going to be upset. but i think it's an error and misleading to use isolated incidents to overlook compelling evidence. as an example, between 1990 and 2013, the immigration population in america more than tripled, but the violent crime rate actually went down by 48%. so the numbers really say that we don't have a problem with immigration. >> yes, we do. >> just the opposite. those the numbers. >> if these people weren't here illegal, those two kids would be alive today. >> stopping immigration is not going to make accidents go away or crimes go away. >> the united states of network does more than any country on the face of the planet. so don't tell me that we're going to stop. nobody's ever suggested that,

ever. and so it's illegal immigration that we're trying to stop. you do see the difference between the two? >> certainly i see the difference. the numbers don't say they're a significant crime problem. they're less of a crime problem. and when you say individual examples and do that and overlook compelling evidence, i think it's misleading. >> the compelling evidence was those two women and kids. joining me here is michael cutler. you've dedicated your life and career to fighting this. >> we have to look at the 9/11 commission. what most people don't know is the second largest contingent are immigration agents. let's also be clear about nomenclature. this isn't about political correctness. illegal aliens are not

immigrants. people who won't make the distinction between illegal aliens and lawful immigrants are the ones that are hurting the reputation of the lawful immigrants. the difference is comparable to the difference to a bank robber and customer. you don't have an inherent right to enter a country in which you're not a citizen. american citizens do. we spend $14 billion a year on border protection. and i.c.e. backs them up. and by the way, got to make this point real quickly. if you look at the guy that alleged to kill mollie in iowa, this guy is the poster trial for what's wrong with immigration. he ran the border. he also committed immigration fraud by gaining a false

identity. if we go with daca, they're children. no, they're not. the age cutoff is 37. we have to have honest facts out there. >> now, garland, i served in congress and i was on the immigration subcommittee for a while. one of the things that frustrated me is more than 80,000 times during the obama administration people who are here illegally who committed crimes, got caught committing those crimes, instead of being deported, they were released out into the public. how do you justify that? if you were here illegally and you commit a crime, don't you believe those people should be deported by default? >> i know of an example right off the bat of someone who was deported and that was because they were caught with a joint in 1983. so when you talk about what the crime was -- >>which crime -- sorry. so if they're here illegally and

they're abusing -- smoking pot, dealing in drugs, either dealing or consuming drugs, do you think they should just be released back out because they're harmless? >> i think we should have a policy to deal with that and i think right now republicans have both houses and i think they should come through with a comprehensive immigration plan, which they haven't. but they have all the power. >> in the case of demetri smith who was killed, the person who was accused of killing that child had three prior driving while intoxicated convictions. let me turn it over to michael. >> sure. if you look at the immigration laws, we know that aliens who evade the inspections are process to come here legally belong to a category --

if someone runs the border, they're trespassing. what's remarkable is that schumer wanted a federal law to make trespass on infrastructure or landmarks a felony. yet the same schumer and the gang of apes said let's give citizenship. it's astonishing. thosed borders are our first and last line of defense against criminals and terrorists. why in the world would you not want to have consequences? >> the right answer is to lock those borders. thank you, gentlemen. i really do appreciate your time tonight. the media make a major error in the michael cohen story. details ahead. too early... or .

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over reports that michael cohen was preparing to tell investigators that president trump had advance knowledge of that infamous meeting at trump tower between donald trump jr and a russian attorney. here is a montage put together by the media research center. >> bombshell, president trump's long-time lawyer ready to deliver the goods. >> michael cohen claims donald trump had advance knowledge of the meeting. >> cohen claims that then-candidate donald trump was aware of the trump tower meeting with the russians before it happened. >> and cohen claims president trump knew of the controversial 2016 meeting can russians that were expecting to give the campaign dirt on hillary clinton. >> there's only one problem with this story. it wasn't true. here's what michael cohen's attorney said earlier this week.

>> so michael cohen does not have information that president trump knew about the trump tower meeting with the russians beforehand? >> no, he does not. >> and here are all the corrections that ran. [crickets chirping] >>yeah, there weren't any. >> joining me now for reaction is howard. thank you so much for joining us here. when you see this situation, i mean the media was just, oh, they got their aha moment. they knew they had him on this one. and they ran it and ran it and then his attorney is saying it wasn't true. >> cnn was the one that broke this exclusive story. it still hasn't be corrected. a major problem with the trump

presidency is some news organizations have lowered the bar. they're too quick to put out allegations that sometimes turn out not to be true. i asked cnn for a comment this morning, haven't heard anything back, no public statement. >> now the new york post is out with a story saying that it was actually cohen who was the person who had confirmed the story in the first place. they must have known that. how could they not ask or question him about that? hey, you confirmed this the first time and now you're saying it's not true. doesn't the media, if they know that, don't they have an obligation, a duty to then follow up with that second question and produce the appropriate apology or correction? >> absolutely. but i would say don't hold your breath. and it's so ironic because every single day, many news organizations hammer the white house, you were wrong on this,

was the president lying about that, why won't you come clean? it kind of dominates a lot of the coverage. but when a member of the media -- we all make mistakes, but when there's a mistake of this magnitude, suddenly you don't see that same zeal to correct. davis, as we mentioned, cohen's attorney, has said he was an anonymous source for cnn. he told me that he regrets that. but cnn should talk about that. >> yeah, that's what i meant to say is davis, not cohen. he's supposed to be representing him as the attorney. and not clear? it's sort of black and white in this situation. i want to go back to one that's always bothered me and i've always wanted to ask you this. but way back when in the day, look at this "time" magazine cover. this is a cover story red-handed

with donald trump jr making him look really ominous. there is still a question about this. what do you make of -- i mean, "time" magazine goes to great lengths. it's so inflammatory. and now it's ending up maybe not even true. >> i have lost track that magazine covers made them look absolutely awful. i presume that was when donald trump jr and manafort had that meeting with the russian lawyer. the fact that they took the meeting is very controversial. it did appear they were looking for dirt on hillary clinton. it went nowhere. >> one last very quick question. when donald trump talks about fake news and you look at the people in the heartland of america, they figure this out, don't they? don't they figure this out, howie? don't they understand that maybe

the media is just way too zealous and too quick on the draw and there is a double standard? >> well, i think a long time ago many people in this country figured out the media are tougher on part of the republican party. and i also think fake news -- i never particularly liked the term. to me, fake is fabricated, deliberately made up. we don't see much of that but we do see a lot of relentless negative coverage of this president. he gives this back. but to answer your question, yeah, the media have lost a whole lot of confidence of a major chunk of the country. and it's sort of on steroids in the trump era. >> howie, thank you very much.

trump's recent tough talk aimed at sessions. critics fear trump's attacks are doing lasting damage to the justice system. really? joining for debate are professor charles kessler and attorney jan. i really do appreciate your gentlemen being here tonight. donald trump was elected to be a disruptive president, right, to not do the status quo. some would obviously argue with some of his tactics, tweets, his aggressive nature. but that is what he was elected to do, was it not? jan, i want to give you the first stab at this. >> well, i don't recall anybody to suggest he was elected to be the disruptive president that he's become. in criticizing law enforcement,

judges, prosecutors, intelligence services and the way in which he does it does not advance the cause of democracy. we are the most civil-ordered government on earth. we are taught to be proud of our government and we should be. we have a wonderful government. for the president to criticize the people that work for him, it advances nothing. look how he's denigrated jeff sessions. look how he's suggested the intelligence service, the law enforcement agency, the prosecutors around the country have been engaging in conspiracies. this does not advance the cause of a democracy we've been taught to expect out of a president. >> charles, what's your take on this? >> well, the president has a duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. that means he's in charge of the whole executive branch. he and he alone has the power and the duty to judge the

performance of his attorney general and of his intelligence agencies. he alone has the ability to classify material, to declassify it, and to grant clearances for people in his administration and even people like john brennan in previous administrations. >> it seems to me he's doing his job. >> he was supposed to change the political norms. is he doing that? is that a good or bad thing in your book? >> i think it depends on what the norms are. many great strong presidents have been norm breakers, from andrew jackson to abraham lincoln in his own way, to truman, to fdr. it's not unusual for presidents to change the way they do the job. the job doesn't come with a h -

how-to manual. as long as he remains faithful to the constitution and the common good, the president gets to make up a lot of his own job requirements and pefrnls. >> performance. >> jan, do you believe that the resistance movement, no matter what the president does and says, we're going to resist at all levels? a philosophy that says we can't let anybody have any victory. do you really think that that's resonating with the american people? the economy is getting better and it's a much safer place from the time donald trump took over. >> i'm not suggesting -- i think donald trump has been his own worst enemy. he came into the office having an opportunity to be a really great president, but the manner in which he's taken to electronic means of communication to denigrate officials -- >>i'm asking about the resistance movement. the democrats say, we're going

to resist at everything. is that effective in communicating? if you're going to be critical for donald trump for these mean tweets, the resistance movement, i mean, let's go pick on -- yell at people while they're eating dinner, is that really what you think is going to be the winning formula for democrats? >> i don't think you ought to resist every effort of the united states, just as i think the republicans should not have resisted everything president obama did during his presidency. >> we didn't do that. i was in congress. >> the democrats have not been nearly as bombastic in their opposition to donald trump as the republicans were with president obama. >> absolutely not. that's the funniest thing i've heard tonight. but i really do appreciate you gentlemen coming to join us tonight, but that is just

absolutely not true. thank you both. i appreciate it. it's friday. so friday follies time. raymond here with perhaps the wildest story you've ever had on this show. you will not want to miss this, so stick around. so i can buy from

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>> how much money are they being paid? >> $185,000 a person, jason. all they do is pick up poop. there's another patrol force. all these people do is pick up needles from the street. this is a breakdown. $72 million san francisco is spending just to clean up its streets. this is what's called making a truce with illegality. there's no penalty for homelessness, they don't enforce the laws, and public urination is legal. $12 for homeless encampment housing, just to clean it up. $2.8 million to wash down b biohazard material.

they receive 70 calls a day from complaints about individuals leaving human waste in public areas. this is a disgraceful situation in more ways than one. it really needs cleanup both politically and otherwise. >> it's sad when you've got a homeless situation, but to pay something $185,000 to clean up the human waste, that's unbelievable. >> you've got to enforce the law or build another homeless shelter and teach people basic hygie hygiene. but to just let this go on... >>they're not solveing the problem. i want to get your reaction to another story. steven tyler is demanding that president trump stop playing aerosmith music at his rallies. >> steven tyler was at jazz fest. he was warm.

he went out to people. he sang at bars in town. people loved him. but he's not showing the love to donald trump these days. he has sent three cease and desist letters to the president saying, we don't want to hear you playing aerosmith's music anymore. >> he calls me up and i said, donald, you can't use "dream on." that's for causes, not campaign. and he did anyway. he did anyway. and i had to sue him. i send him a letter to cease and desist. i've been through that [bleep]. >> the curious thing here is, i mean, you can enforce copyright. and that's what he says he's doing. he says it's for good causes, not for politics. but i don't know how you can stop the public dissemination of music. you should be able to play that music wherever you want, whether it's at the political rally or a public park.

the president seems to be telling him, dream on. >> that's too bad. but finally another story out of hollywood. this one is -- a new muppets movie celebrating murder. what is that about? >> jim hanson's son has created a movie called "the happy time murders." i can't even show you clips from this movie. i'll show you this little bit of the trailer. just watch this. >> hey, hand some. >> so many. >> looking for some rotten cott cotton? >> i'm a woman. >> remember the two muppets of the old muppet show? they used to say it's like a kind of torture to have to watch

the show. that's how i feel about this movie coming up. there are sexual scenes. muppets having intercourse is not something i want to think about. this movie is filled with this stuff. i sit back. disney tried this last year when they rebooted a show called "the muppets." and it was trying to restart the muppet franchise. but it was also off-color, a little raunchy and randy. it didn't work. people rejected it. why he thinks a feature will work with filthy muppets getting killed and having sex. you're ruining childhood memories and you're destroying a lovable, sweet, family brand that you could have a great future with and running it into the gutter. >> they're ruining their brand and destroying memories that

kids like me had fond memories of the muppets. >> a shocking number of charges in chicago after the city's bloodiest weekend. the full story is next.

>>the most lawless place in america may very well be the west and south sides of chicago,

which are suffering through horrific levels of violence. three weeks ago, 75 people were shot in a single weekend. but guess how many people have been charged since then? one. that's right, one. only one's been charged. in a city that's been run by democrats for decades, should city leaders be taking more heat? since 2011, since he's become mayor there have been over 18,000 shootings and nearly 4,000 murders, murders in the windy city. just unbelievable. joining me now for reaction, a retired police officer and democratic strategist. i want to go to you first. there's that saying, if you want different results, you're going to have to elect different people.

democrats have been running the windy city. after nearly 4,000 murders and 18,000 shootings, don't you think maybe it's time to try something else? >> well, jason, let me first say how sad and heart breaking it is to hear those numbers. anytime we have someone's child being killed and a mother and a father having to have a funeral, it makes you re-examine life and why we do what we do. this has been going on for a very long time. and while the right and even you in your opening comments want to make this about democrat versus republican, liberal versus conservative. i think this is a societal problem. gangs are a problem not just in chicago, not just in the inner cities, but they're a problem everywhere. and we have to address the root of the issue, whether it's

education, economic empowerment, or just simple things like making sure a child has access to the american experience the way other children do. i think we have to focus on the root of the problem versus schiffed -- shifting the blame. >> i'm saying that the democratic policies are the ones that are flawed because they've been implementing those sort of liberal policies and it's not working. i mean, they've got some of the tightest gun laws in the country and yet they have some of the worst gun violence. >> jason, i'm glad you brought up the notion about gun policy. well, keep in mind the bordering states around illinois have some of the most lax gun laws in the country and it's so easy to go across the border and bring the gun back and do illegal things. guns are not the problem. i guess it's policies and procedures that we have to re-examine all over the country.

>> again, i'm not in the business of pointing blame to left or right. i want to get to solutions. >> that's always convenient when the left's been in charge for decades. they say it's not about the left but it is about their policies. >> let me bring in law enforcement officer, somebody who's dedicated his life to this. ron, what's your take on what's going on? >> well, first of all, thanks for having me on. this is the first time i think i've ever agreed on anything with a democrat. so i agree with your cohost. these are behavioral issues. they're not gun issues. they're behavioral issues. and i tend to be very apolitical about these things because death and the forensic investigation of death, especially shootings, is something doing every single day. that being said, the problem in chicago is endemic with all of the major urban cities.

and politicians, be they right or left, democrat or republicans, create these problems and in fact exacerbate the problems. politicians are not going to be able to solve these societal and crimin criminallogical problems. >> you have 75 shot in one weekend and one arrest. is that an acceptable ratio for law enforcement? >> no, i can give you even more statics. >> well, i want to know the underlying problem with why they're not able to arrest, charge, and put people away that are committing these crimes. >> i'll tell you exactly what the problem is. number one, we have to change the totally paradigm of how communities look at themselves and look at behavior. that's number one. it starts in the home. it starts with good parenting, having both parents there, role

modeling, guidance, mentoring. it starts with that. you have to give people hope and opportunity, not entitlement and not enslave them to the government. >> yeah. what's your take on that? >> one big, hey, let's just hope and then we'll get better than 1 out of 75. >> that's it, jason. what has to happen? it seems like the right wants to pinpoint the issues we have, they want to make it an inner city problem. these things happen in rural areas, too. people who agree and don't always agree have to come together and identify the root of the problem and then put forth a policy that will identify those problems. >> that's not happening in chicago. 75 in one weekend. 4,000 murders. >> it does not mean it will not

happen. just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it cannot happen if people are willing to put aside the differences. >> we're not just one big group hug away from solving this. there's got to be a change, a fundamental change. and that may mean at the president or the national guard, something's got to change here because the status quo and one big group hug ain't going to solve it. i thank you for being here. i wish we had more time. >> you and i agree on that. >> good. victor davis hanson, one of my favorite people, smartest minds there is, joins us next to weigh in. xfinity mobile is a new wireless network

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>>thanks for sticking with us on this ingraham angle special, left and lawlessness. earlier this week we told you about an angry mob that tore done a confederate statute at the university of north carolina. roll the tape. [chanting] [screaming]

[chanting] >>nice theme for the parents sending their kids off to school the day before school was starting. three people have been charged over that incident. school leaders told them not to attend a statue rally this weekend. three confederate monuments at north carolina capitol building will remaim in place. joining me now, victor davis hanson. professor, thanks for being here. how far do you think the hard left will try to erase history they don't like? >> i don't think they know what they're doing. history is not mediclodrama or

psychodrama. it's tragedy. the 75% of the households that didn't own slave and yet they fought for i think a bad cause and for various reasons. but all that complexity gets washed away when we turn history into melodrama. in that wonderful film, he had the folksy, charming southern historian and novelist who tried to get a sympathetic reason why people fought for a wrong cause. are we going to go back now and say we want you to cut out all of his interviews because they

promote white supremacy? at least we feel they do. it doesn't have a good history, whether be -- defacing roman emperors after they're dead, or joseph stalin erasing all iconic imagery. i'm sitting here in the san joaquin valley, and two miles from my hometown where my family's been for several years. they're putting a totem of the aztec goddess. above it they have the -- am i going to go in there and say, "this is awful." in the dead of night put a hood

on and try to topple that. wouldn't be better to peacefully demonstrate. when i was told to leave, if i i didn't, i would be arrested. i would go to jail, publicize the call and then gradually find some type of resolution. >> you spend an awful lot of time with students. we've got these young minds, people going into college at the university of north carolina. what's the message this sends them and what should the message be if they want to affect change? >> you're supposed to go to college to learn two things: the inductive method of reasoning and come out disinterested and learn a body of fact and knowledge to support your argument. and we don't care whether you become left or right. but universities have become an

indoctrination center. it's not my right to go and rip them off and say to a student, " -- i don't have that right. i can protest. i wish they wouldn't do it. i can right a letter. >> victor, thank you. >> we're not doing that now. >> thank you. i could talk to you all night. you're one of the great minds. we'll be right back. wasn't my top priority. until i held her. i found my tresiba® reason. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction. (woman) we'd been counting down to his retirement. it was our tresiba® reason. he needs insulin to control his high blood sugar

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>>before we go, one of my favorite places to get a laugh these days is a video site called bad lipreading. here's a clip. >> you suck. >> the way you talk to me, i mean, you could talk so evil. >> do you need to look like a stuffed bake potato in that walmart shirt? because you suck. >> it really is funny stuff. and that's all the time we have tonight. thank you for watching this ingraham angle special. i'm jason. laura returns from vacation on monday. shannon bream and the fox news @

night team are up next. god bless you and may god bless your family. it's the greatest country on the face of the planet and i'm honored to be here. thank you so much for watching. ♪ >>this is a fox news alert. president trump cancelling plans for secretary of state mike pompeo to travel to north korea, citing insufficient progress on denuclearization. and later the president keeps the pressure on his attorney general. president trump takes to twitter trying to compel jeff sessions to investigate corruption on what he calls the other side. also tonight, the family of john mccain since he has chosen to