next week. watch justice. governor huckabee. and they will join me. sean is back on monday. "the ingraham angle" is next. have a great weekend. >> this is a fox weatherer alert. tropical storm lane is weakening as it heads towards the hawaiian islands. it is now downgraded to tropical storm status. despite the downgrade. it is dropping torrential rain on the big island seeing as much as three feet of rain in the last, few days. the town of heilo was flooded friday with high water. landslides shutting down roads. at one time, some 16,000 homes and businesses were without power. crews have worked to restore service to many some far there are no reports of deaths. the national weather service says the storm is expected to veer west, but it is center is still moving closer to the

islands. lane is still expected to bring heavy rains and winds throughout the weekend. the hurricane watch for hawaii most western inhabited islands is downgraded to tropical storm watch and brushfires breaking out in maui and ohau causing evacuations. roads and valleys are dry and prone to burning. we will closely monitor this throughout the night. for now. back to the "the ingraham angle," already in progress. >> jason: in november 2016 she was fatally hit by a speeding truck. the driver an illegal immigrant nade sergio rodriguez didn't stop after the accident, because he feared being deported. it doesn't get more tragic than this. admiti smith lived for just one minute outside of his mother's womb he was delivered after an illegal immigrant crash into his mother's car in new mexico in 2012. haley's mother cathy hall and

admiti mother ilene smith both join me to share their stories. they're sitting side-by-side. ilene, cathy i appreciate you coming on the chaud. our heart goes out to everyone, who goes through this. as a parent myself, i can't even imagine theou sadness that has gone through your family. and we appreciate your taking these moments and being brave enough to share your stories and perspective. this country, you have more of a voices than anyone like myself or someone who hasn't been through this. cathy, again. i'm so sorry you went through this, but donald trump has brought a lot of attention to the status, the illegal immigrant status. is that the right thing to do? are we doing the right thing by talking about the status of these people? >> i believe so. my daughter would o still be hee today, if the man would have stopped. if he would have been here legally. i think that if the american public isn't aware t of how many

cases are there actually are and what's going on, donald trump isn't going to be able to get anywhere it. >> jason: ilene, in your situation, we talk sometimes about the status, illegal illegal-- sometimes people will argue, it is really not the cogent part of the discussion. what's your perspective? what are your thoughts? >> i think his immigration status or citizenship status has a lot to say about policy implications going forward. and how we handle these kinds of things. you know, if there's a deportation in the mix of this or if we need detainers or not, it is really important. so, as far as policy going forward, we definitely need to look at these cases and include their immigration status. >> jason: first and foremost, we want to remember those kids, whose lives were taken far, far too early. but in the case of locking down

the border and the immigration policies that move forward it cathy what would you like to see happen? what is the right thing that the united states of america should do? >> you know we had a situation with my daughter's case. i have kind of been on both areas of the fence with this one. the borders need to be locked down when they come over here illegally they do commit crimes to stay here illegally. ii think that if we don't do something about the issue there, it is going to go well beyond the families that you are having on the chaud. show. my granddaughter was removed given to a family not us, after my daughter died. we are still fighting today to try to get my granddaughter back home with b her family, where se needs to be. so i've had both sides of this issue. my daughter should be here.

ilene's son should be here. many, many other mothers and fathers. it is going to be a lot more, if we don't stop what's going on now. >> jason: ilene, one of the public policy discussions the people of congress are debating. you hear democrats say we should get rid of i.c.e. that immigration i custom enforcement should be abolished. some want more open borders. how do you react to that. >> i think i should say i am not anti-immigrant. my grandfather came here to america in 1955 and became a citizen ina 1960, but those coming in illegally and committing further crimes need to be readdressed. i think this is something we can easily correct. i don't think anybody in their right mind would sit there and say that we need to abolish i.c.e. they keep our country safe. god bless those men and women.

>> i agree. >> jason: yeah. it is so true. cathy, ilene i want to give you each a moment. tell us about your loss, and how us to remember your-- how you want us to remember, haley, for instance? >> you know haley was the youngest of four children. she was always happy. laughing and loved everybody. she was heard of hearing. she was hard of hearing, and could play music beautifully, but there wasn't anyone in this worldle haley wouldn't have put her hand out to help, if they needed it. if anything could ever be considered goodve coming out of this, i'm hoping that her story will get out and help save some other lives.av >> jason: and ilene, what can you tell us about dimitri and what you are going through at that time as a young mother? >> he was my first child.

he was incredible, fully formed. 10 fingers, 10 toes. had my nose. had my husbands hair and chin. fit from elbow to fingertip. when i got ho hold him before giving him up to omi. he was greatly anticipated by my family. it is one of the first babies we had had in decades. and he is sorely missed by his family. >> jason: thank you for sharing your stories. i want to give you one more chance to say something to people who serve in congress, who are public policy-makers. maybe let's start with you ilene and then cathy. what would you say to them? >> well, w are doing the angel familyld rally in september in . please join us for that. a lot of new angel moms are going to be there. people who previously didn't get

their story out, because they were wrapped up in legal proceedings and things like that. it would be very informative for sure.p in addition to that wanting to see further legislation to make sure thesese people, who are committing heinous acts are deported. >> jason: cathy? >> i agree with ilene. you know not all of the lawmakers out there are against anything going on. there are some very good ones. there are two state representatives, two state senators that t are helping with our case. and then also senator tom cotton has joined on board. i'll be meeting with him on dc in september also. >> jason: well, again, sorry for your loss. we appreciate you taking the time and having the strength and fortitude to be able to share your story with others. it is heart wrenching and our hearts go out to you, but thank

you for sharing your stories and being with us. may god bless you. >> thank you for having us. >> jason: for more on the>> immigration crisis in our country. let's bring in michael cutler with ins. one ofal the predecessors to immigration and custom enforcement often called ice. >> and darla nixon. i have no doubt about your hart and compassion. i know you care about those women and kids. i'm not trying to any way shape or form give you anything other than 100% credit about caring, but when we talk about public policy you hear these women. they talk about the need to target illegal immigrants and deport them. and to deal with the immigration issue, abolish ice? where are you on this? what do you say to those women who say no, these people should be deported. >> i certainly understand the women. you have a-- a major loss like

that certainly you're going to be upset. but i think it is a error and i think it is misleading to use isolated incidents to overlook compelling evidence. as an example between 1990 and 2013 the immigration population in america more than tripled, but the violent crime rate actually went down by 48% some the d numbers really say that we don't have a problem with-- . >> jason: yes, we do. no, we do. >> look at the numbers. >> jason: if those people weren't here. they're here illegally. if they weren't here. those two kids would be alive today. do you not believe that? >> stopping immigration will not make car accidents go away. >> jason: no, no, no. no one said we will stop immigration. the united states of america does more than any country in the face of the planet. we legally lawly bring one million people in the country. no one ever suggested that, ever. so, it is illegal immigration

that we're trying to stop. you do see the difference, right between the two? >> certainly i see the difference. my point being the numbers still don't say they are a significant crime problem. in fact they're less of a crimet problem. when you take individual examples and gear that, and overlook compelling evidence, i think it is misleading. >> jason: compelling evidence was the first part of the block with the two women and the two dead kids. that's part of the c compelling evidence. joining me in studio is michael cutler. you've dedicated your life and career to fighting this. what's your perspective. >> first we have to look at the 9/11 commission. we provided testimony. the second largest contingent of law enforcement officers to the law enforcement task force was immigration. they violate immigration fraud to get in the united states. and nom crature. it isn't about political correctness. illegal aliens are not immigrants. when people say if you talk about illegal immigrants you're

unfair to the immigrants. people who won't make the decision tinges between illegal aliens and immigrants are hurting. the difference is comparable to the difference between the bank robber and a bank customer. think about that. >> jason: that's right. that's a good example. >> the guy who walks in to take his own money is the customer. the guy who robs the bank is not a customer. you don't have an inherent right to enter where you're not a citizen. do.citizens we spend $15 billion on boarder and custom protection. employs. inspections and border agents and ice backs them up. they conduct investigations into fraud and i have to make this point quickly. if you look at the guy alleged to have killed molly in iowa he is the moster child for what's wrong with immigration. he ran thehe border. it needs to be secure. we have 15 border states. hehe committed immigration fraud apparently by gaping a false identity. gaining ain false identity.

if we go with doca. they're children. no the age cutoff is 37. we have to have honest facts. >> jason: there is so much of the discussion. garlin if i surveyed congress and on the immigration subcommittee for a while. one of the things that frustrated me is more than 80,000 times during the obama administration people, who were here illegally, who committed crimes got caught committing those crimes-- instead of being deported they were released out into the public. how do you justify that? if you are here illegally and you commit a crime, don't be don't you believe those people should be deported by default. >> yeah. i know of an example off the bat of someone deported it was because they were caught with a joint in 1983. so whengh you talk about what te crime was. what. >> jason: wait, wait. so. if they're here illegally and abusing-- you know a smoking pot

ordealing of drugs, dealing or consuming drugs you think they should just be released back out because they're harmless. >> what i think is i think we should have a policy to deal with that. i think the republicans have both houses and the white house, i think that they should come through with a, with a comprehensive immigration plan, which they haven't. >> jason: garland let me give you the right answer. in the case of admiti smith killed. ilene smith's son who lived for one minute. the person who was accused of killing that child had three prior driving while intoxicated convictions. let me turn it over to mike. >> if you look at the immigration laws and the grounds for excluding an alien and aliens who evade the inspections to come here illegally know they belong to category with exclusivability. mental illness. criminal, spies, terrorists. human rights violators.

war criminal and fugitives from justice. if someone runs the border there'sey trespassing. chuck schumer wanted a federal law. you know probably know to trespass five year felony. saying trespassing is dangerous. aren't you trespassing on america, when you run the border. evade the vetting process. yet the same chuck schumer said let's give citizenship to people who trespass on america. the disconnect between the political statement and the reality of why we have borders and immigration laws is astonishing. those borders are our first and last line of defense against criminals, and terrorists. why in the world wouldn't youcr want consequences for people. >> jason: the absolutely right answer here is the lock down the borders so they can't come back. if you commit a crime, they should be absolutely deported. thank you gentlemen. i appreciate your time. >> the media make a major error in the mike cohen story. details ahead.

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>> jason: welcome back to this "the ingraham angle" special. the left ande lawlessness. one of the reasons the left is able to get away with so much, is because the media let them off the hook. case in point. last month the broadcast networks went wild over reports

that mike cohen was preparing to tell investigators that the president trump had advanced knowledge of that infamous meeting between trump shall at trump tower between donald trump jr. and a j russian attorney. here's as montage put together y the media research center. >> bomb shell. president trump long-time lawyer ready to deliver the goods. >> sources tell abc news, that mike cohen claims donald trump had advanced knowledge of the trump tower meeting. >> mike cohen the president former attorney and fixer claims then candidate donald trump was aware of the june 2016 subtower meeting with the russians, before it happened. >> mike cohen claims president trump knew of the controversial 2016 meeting with russians that were expecting to give the campaign dirt on hillary clinton. >> jason: there was only one problem with the>> story. it wasn't true. here's what mike cohen's attorney lanny davis said earlier this week. >> so mike cohen does not have

information that president trump knew about the trump tower meeting with the russians beforehand? >> no. he does not. >> jason: here are all of the corrections that ran. [crickets sounds ] >> jason: yeah, there weren't. joining me for reaction is host of fox news "media buzz." howard thank you for joining us. when you see the situation. the media oh, they have their ah-ha moment. they knew they had them on this one and ran it and ran it and ran it. then cohen's attorney says it wasn't true. >> yeah, we now know that it wasn't true. mike cohen doesn't claim. and lanny davis. the whole montage come from a cnns story. cnn broke this exclusive story. still hasn't been corrected. you know a major problem, jason with the coverage of the trump presidency is some news organizations have lowered the bar for what they publish.

they're too quick to run and gun and put out allegations gates based on unnamed sources. cnn had a problem when they had to fire three journalists over unsubstantiated story. i asked cnn for comment. be haven't heard anything back. no public statement. >> jason: now the new york post says it is actually cohen, who was the person who confirmed the story in the first place. they must have known that, howard? how could they not ask him or question him about that. hey, you confirmed the first time. now you're saying it is not true. doesn't the media, if they know that, don't they have an obligation, a duty to then follow up with that second question? and produce the appropriate apology or correctship? >> absolutely, but i would say don't hold your breath. every, singlee day. many newsing organizations and sometimes it is part of our job hammer the white house. you're wrong on this. president lying about that. why won't you come clean. it is kind of dominates a lot of

the coverage. in the time of investigations, you might expect some of that. but when a member of the media, we all make mistakes. when there is a mistake of the story of this magnitude. claiming advanced knowledge of trump tower meeting. suddenly you won't see see the zeal to correct. lannyt. davis, cohen's has saide was an energy mouse serve. believingou he was itrying to waive the network off story. cnn should talk about that and say we retract the story. no public comment from the network. >> jason: lanny davis, not cohen. he is supposed to represent him as the's attorney. and not clear-- it is sort of black andnd white this this situation. i want to go back to one that always bothered me. i've always wanted to ask you this. way back when in the day, look at this "time" magazine cover. it is a red-handed with donald trump jr. making him look really

ominous. i mean there is still a question about this. what do you make-- "time" magazine goes to great lengths. it is so engram story and now maybe not even true. >> i have lost track of all of the "time" magazine covers that make president trump and in this case member of his family look absolutely all of. i assume it is time when comptrump jr. and gerard curbner had the meeting with the russian lawyer. the fact that they took the meeting it appear they were looking for dirt on hillary clinton. but it is accusetory andir flying the unflattering pictures to go with it. >> jason: one, last, quick question. when donald trump talks about "fakes news" and look at the people in the heart land of america, they figure this out, don't they? don't they figure this out? don't they understand maybe the

media is too zealous, and quick on the draw and there is a double standard. >> i think a long time ago, many people in this country figure out that the media is a little tougher on your part of the republicannan party and i think "fake news." i never liked the term. they say 80% of the media fake news. to me it is fabricated and deliberately made up. we don't see a lot of that. but unrelenting negative coverage. sometimes bias and outrageous commentary. he gives it back. he has every right. sometimes he goes a little far in his rotorric. to answer your question, yeah. thee media have lost a lot of confidence of a major chunk of the country. it is sort of on steriods in the trump era. >> jason: howie, thank you very much your chaud "media buzz" airs 11:00 eastern on sunday. look forward to it. president trump tough talked aim at jeff sessions is producing

some distressing headlines such as this in the washington post. critics fear trump attack are doing lasting damage to the justice system. really? joining me for a debate professor charles kemp ler with the clairemontin institute and e attorney jan ronas. i really do appreciate you gentlemen being here tonight. donald trump was elected to be a disruptive president, right? he was elected to come not do the status quo. some would argue with maybe some of his tactic, his tweets, his aggressive nature, but that was. that is what he was elected to do, wasas it not? i want to give you the first stab at this. >> i be don't recall anyone suggesting that he was elected to be the disruptive president that he has become. frankly he's h the head of the government and thee head of the executive branch. in his vitole and criticizing, for example law enforcement, judges, prosecutors,

intelligence services, and the way in which he does it. it does not advance the cause of democracy. we are the most civil-ordered government in earth. we are taught to be proud of our government. we should be. we have a wonderful government for the president to single handedly criticize the people work for him in the manner he does advances nothing. look how he embarrassed rex tillerson. look how he has denigrated jeff sessions. look how he has suggested the intelligence services and law enforcement agencies, the prosecutors around the country have been engaging in conspiracies. this does not advance the cause of democracy. we have been taught to expect out of a president. >> jason: charles, what's your take on this? >> well, the president has a dutyty to take care that the las be t faithfully executed. that means he's in charge of the whole executive branch. he, and he alone is, has the power and a the duty to judge te performance of his attorney

general. and of his intelligence agencies. and he alone o has the ability o classify material, to declassify it and grant clearances for people in his administration and people like john brennan in previous administrations. it seems he's doing his job. >> jason: charles, he was supposed to change the political norms? is he doing? that a good or bad thing in your book? >> i think it depends on what the norms are. many, great, strong president advise been norm breakers. from andrew jackson, to abraham lincoln, in his own way, to harry truman, to fdr. it is not unusual for presidents to change the way that they do the job. because the job a president doesn't come with a manual, a d how to manual. it has to adjust to the personality. and the times of the occupant. and as long as he remains faithful to the constitution and to the common good, the

president gets to make up a lot of his own job requirements and performance. l >> jason: do you believe the resistance movement. no matter what the president does or says, we will resist at sall levels. go after my words, not someone else's a scorched earth philosophy that can't let anyone have any victory. do you think that'sny resonating with the person people? the economy has been getting better and i think on foreign policy you can argue it is much safer place from the time donald trump took over? >> well, i'm not suggesting. quite frankly dump has been his own, worst enemy. he came into the office having an opportunity to be a really, great president. but the manner in which he has taken to electric means of communication to denigrate. >> jason: i'm asking about the resistance movement. the democrats say we will resist everything. we will have the scorched earth philosophy. ng that effective in.

if you're critical of donald trump for being a vitolic-type personality and the mean tweets. the resistance movement? let's go pick on, yell on people eating dinner. do you think that is the winning formula? >> i don't think that you should resist every effort of the president of the united states just as i thought the republicans should not have resisted as they did, everything that president obama proposed during his presidency. >> we didn't be didn't do that. >> that's not true. i was in congress. >> listen, even the senate majority leader mitch mcconnellel viewed he would never let president bomb have success. the democrats have not been as bombastic in opposition to trump as republicans were with obama. >> jason: that's the funniest thing i have heard. i appreciate you gentlemen coming to join us. that is absolutely not true. thank you, vegie.

i appreciate it. it is friday, it is raymond here with perhaps the wildest story we've he had on this chaud. you will not want to miss this. stick around.

>> jason: it's friday. you know what that means. ♪ >> the next story is so crazy. i will have to bring in fox news contributor raymond arroyo to explain this whole, crappy story. what's the new job in san francisco.n. >> this story is unbelievable. there's over 7,500 homeless people on the streets of san francisco. well, they have now deployed what the san francisco chronicle des scribing as a poop patrol. they're one mission and getting it paid $18 5,000. >> wait, wait? >> how much money?

>> how much money $18 5,000 a person, jason. all they do is pick up poop. now there's another patrol force, $700,000 they spend on them. all those four people do are pick uper needles from the stre. i mean this is a breakdown. i will put up on the full screen of the $72 million san francisco is spending, just to clean up its streets. this is what's called making a introduce with illegality. there's no penalty for homelessness. they don't enforce the laws and public urination is legal. $12 million for homeless encampmenthousing just to clean it up. $2.8 million to wash dow bio hazard materials. and $3.01 for pit-stop portable toilets. to give you the sense of what the poor people of san francisco are going through. the san francisco authorities receive 70 calls a day from

complaints about individuals leaving human waste in public areas. this is a disgraceful situation in more ways than one. >> jason: it needs clean up politically andisms it is sad when you have a homeless situation. i don't want to minimize that at all. but to pay someone $18 5,000 to clean up human waste. >> you have to enforce the law. build another homeless shelterer and teach people basic hygiene. >> jason: they're not solving the problem. the liberal policies are not solving the problem. i want your reaction to another story. steven tyler a long-time acquaintance of the president he demands president trump stop playing aerosmith music at his rallies. what's happeningt here? >> they're acquaintances steven tyler worked for the president at maro lago and another event. he was just here in new orleans, where i'm coming from. be steven tyler was at jazzfest he was warm, and sang at bars. people loved him, but he's not

showing the love to donald trump these days. he has sent three seize and desist letters to the president saywe don't want to hear you playing aerosmith's music any more. here he is to joe roggan. >> he calls me up. i said donald, you can't use "dream on." it is fordo causes not campaign. he did it anyway. he did anyway. and ie had to sue him. and sent him a letter of seize and desist. i've through that [bleep] >> the curious thing, you can enforce copyright. that's what steven tyler says he's doing. enforcing copyright. he says it is for good causes not politics. i don't know how you can stop the publicities insemination of music. you should beno able to play it wherever you want whether it is a political rally or a public park orwa restaurant. i don't know how it will shake out. steven tyler keeps making a lot of noise about this. the president seems to be telling him, dream on.

>> jason: yeah, that's too bad. finally another story out of hollywood. this one is. oh. a muppets movie celebrating i hear murder? what in the world? >> brian hansen who is jim hansen's son has created a new movie called "happy time murders." it is not just murder. it is "r" rated featuring puppets that look like the muppets you and i grew up with. i can't seen show you clips from this movie. i'll show you this little bit of a trailer. just watchai this. >> hay handsome looking for some riding cotton. >> i'm a woman.>> >> that's okay. >> that's even better. >> good time for you. >> you know, remember stadler waldon and the two muppets that sat across the street from the muppet show. say it is like the torture to have to watch show. that's how i feel about this

"happy time murders" there are sexual scenes. muppets having intercourse is not something i want to think about. this movie is filled with this stuff. i sit back-- disney tried this last year when they rebooted a show called "the muppets" trying to restart the muppets franchise. it was also off color, a little raunchy and randy. it didn'tit work. people rejected it. why, brian hansen now thinks a feature will work with filthy muppets killed, slaughtered and having sex it. would be like the disney daughters taking micky and mini and created animated pornography. you don't do this. you're ruining childhood memories and destroying a lovable, sweet, family brand that, you could have a big future with i think running it into the gutter. >> jason: great stuff. you'rere right they're ruining e brand andth destroying memories kids like me and some others, that have fondt memories of the

muppets. >> i agree. leaves toy bear alone. and let him have his clones on. >> jason: the shocking number of charges in chicago, after the city bloodiest weekend. the full story is next.

>> jeff: the most lawless place in america may very well be the west south side of chicago, which are suffering through

horrific levels of violence. three weeks ago, 75 people were shot in a single week. the bloodiest of 2018. guess how many people have been charged since then? , one. that's right. one. one has been charged according to the chicago tribune in the city run by democrats by democrats for decades should city leaders take more heat? take a look at these statistics. since 2011, room emanuel. before since he became mayor there have been over 18000 shooters and nearly 4,000 murders. murders in the windy city. just unbelievable. joining me for reaction. retired police officer ron martineli and democratic strategist antoine seerice. i want to go to you first. if you want to have results, you have to elect different people. the democrats have been running the windy city. what do you say to rob emanuel? his policy aren't working.

after nearlyy 4,000 murders and 18,000 shootings. don't you think maybe it is time try something else? >> well, jason let me first say how sad and heartbreaking it is for hear those numbers. any time we have someone's child being killed and the mother and a father having to plan a funeral it makes you reexamine this thing called life and why we did what we do. i don't think you can pinpoint it on rob emanuel, although he dudoes share only of the blame. it is going on for the long time and why the right and wants to make it democrats versus republic and liberal versus conservative i think can it is a societal problem. when the child doesn't see the american experiment as something to move their life forward. a problem, not just in chicago. not just in the inner cities. they're a problem everywhere and have to address the root, education,n, economic empowermet or simple things like making

sure a child has access to the american experiment, the way some other children do. i think that's what we have to focus on the root, versus shifting the blame. >> jason: i'm not trying to go after someone based on their political affiliation. i'm saying that the democratic policies are the ones that are flawed. p because they're-- they have been implementing those liberal policies. it is not working. i mean you have some of the tightest gun laws in the country. yet they have some of the worst gun violence. they're education. >> jason. i'm glad you brought the notion about gun policy. keep in mind the bordering states around illinois have some of the lax gun laws in the country. it is easy to t bring a gun back and do illegal things. guns are not the problem. it is i guess it is the policies and the procedures we have to reexamine all over the country, not just in chicago. it is not just about chicago. the state of illinois bears some responsibility. federal leaders bear some

responsibility as well. >> jason: let's. >> i'm not in the business of pointing blame to left or right or thatme matter. >> that's convenient when the left is in t charge for decades. they say it is not about the left it is about their policies and the left has been in charge of the policies. >> name one policy. >> jason: let meci bring in law enforcement officer. someone who has dedicated his life toat this. what's your take on what's going on in then windy city. >> first thanks for having me on. this is there first time i think i've ever agreed on anything with a democrat. so i agree with your cohost. these are behavioral issues they're not gun issues they're behavioral issues i tend to be apoliticalhi about these things because the forensic investigation of shootings is something i do every, single day. i have 54 homicide on my caseload and i'm in private practice. that b being said the problem chicago is inepidemic with the major urban cities.

politicians beit right or left, democrat or republicans create these problems. in fact, exacerbate the problems.. the politicians are not going ti be able to solve these societal, and criminallogical problems. >> jason: let me go i'm sorry. you have 75 shot in one weekend and one arrest. who-- is that an acceptable ratio for law enforcement? >> no, i can give you even more statistics. >> jason: i don't want any more statistics i want to know the under lying problem why they're not able tono arrest, charge and convict and put people away, that are committing these crimes? >> sure, i'll tell you exactly what the problem is. number one, we have to change the par dime of how communities look at themselves, and look at behaveior. that's number one. it starts in the home. itit starts with good parenting. having both parents there. role modeling guidance, mentoring.

it starts with that. youit have to give people hope d opportunity, not entitlement. andd not enslave them to government. >> jason: yeah. what's your take on that? i hey, let's just hope and then we get one out of 75. >> no, that's it, jason what has to happen in chicago not just inner cities. i want to be clear it. seems like the right wants to pinpoint some of the issues we have in cities like chicago, and baltimore just inner city. these thingss happen in urial areas.n they may not get the same level after attention. democrats and repsans. black or rich or poor. have to come together and identify the root of the problem and put forth a policy. >> jason: that's not happening. that's not happening in chicago. 75 in one weekend. >> because it is because it does not mean it will happen. just because it hasn't happened

yet. that does not mean it cannot happen. and people willing to put aside their differences. >> jason: i'm sorry guys. we're not just one big group hug away from solving this. there has to be a fundamental change. and that may mean that the president or the national guard something has to change, because the status quo and one group hug won't solve it. thank you for being here. i wishh we had more time. >> you and i agree on that, jason. >> the confederate monuments comes to the footsteps of north carolina capital building. victor davis hansen. one of the smartest minds there is joins us next. . . or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. enterprise car sales and you'll take any trade-in?rom that's right! great! here you go... well, it does need to be a vehicle.

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>> jason: thanks for sticking with us on this "the ingraham angle" special. the left and lawlessness. earlier this week we told you about an angry mob that tore down a confederate statue at the university of north carolina. roll the tape. [cheering]

>> jason: that's nice scene for parents sending their kids off the dayir before school is starting. three people have been charged over the incident and university leaders issued a vague and ominous warning telling them not to attend a possible confederate statue rally this week. in the related news. state officials announce three confederate monuments at north carolina capital building will remain in place. joining me for reaction is historian and hoover institute victor davis hansen. thank you so much for being here. how far do you think that the hard left will go to try to erase history they don't like. isho it the right way to do it? justry tear it down. >> i don't think they know what they're doing. history is not a mellow drama or psycho drama it is a tragedy. you could have the founder of

the ku klux klan a general who is a racist and tragic figure like james long street or the 75% of the household in north carolina than didn't own slaves or the 95% of people, but fought for i think a bad cause. and for various reasons. but all of the complexity is washed away, when we turn history into mellow drama. as a point, 28 years ago ken burns rivetted the united states with a brilliant civil war documentary. it captured everyone imagination and renewed interest in that wonderful film, he had shelby foot, the folky, charmy, southern historian and novelist who tried to get a dispassionate but sometimes sympathetic reason why people fought for a bad cause. at times he said he could understand why they defended southern soil. will we go back to say to ken burns, we want you to cut out all of the shelby foot interviews, becausese they prome white supremacy, b because we fl we do.

many more millions saw that film and it "silence and the statue" it doesn't have a good history whether defacing roman emperors after they were dead or the french revolution raiding cathedrals and monasteries or josef stalin erasing on imaginaryco of trots ski. i'm sitting here in san joaquin valley where my family has been 104om years. they voted to put an as tech to theem of the snake earth goddess. the object of thousands of human sacrifices. above it they have the indescription viva long live the race. it was reinvented by the chicano movement of the 60s. borrowed franko spain. when he wrote a fascist novel will i say this is all of and in the dead of night try to topple it?

or do i object to what i feel is the promotion of human sacrifice or racism, wouldn't it be better in the tradition of thoreau or martin lutherr king. would publicize the cause and find some resolution rather than just in a thuggish manner and do that. >> jason: you spent a lot of time with students. we have the young minds and the people going into college, the university of north carolina. what's the message that sends them? what should the message be? what should they be learn finger they want to effect change? >> you're supposed to go to college to learn two things. the inductive measure of reasoning and come out disinterest o and learn the body and fact of knowledge to support the arguments. we don't care whether you become left or right. not what universities have become. they have become an endock nation center. when i go on campus and see

young kids or posters of mao on state-supported schools. it is not my right to rip them off and say to a student. he personally executed people with the revolver in a psychopathic manner or mao was the greatest mass murderer. 60 million die to him and tear that off. i don't have the right. i can protest. i wish they wouldn't do it. ii can write a letter to the state university facilities. >> jason: victor-- thank you. i could talkng to you all night. you're one of the great minds. we'll be right back.

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>>before we go, one of my favorite >> before we go one of my favorite places to get a good laugh is a video site called bad lip reading which makes deliveries videos involving public figures and there's no better gold mine for material than the white house press briefing and its unruly behavior. here is a clip. >> what is -- >> take your question. >> the way you talk to me do you need to talk so evil? >> do you need to look like a stuffed baked potato and that walmart shirt because you suck. >> that is all the time we have, thank you for watching this ingram angle special. i'm jason chaffetz. it was a pleasure filling in for laura, she returns from vacation monday.

shannon bream coming up next. have a great weekend, good night from new york city, god bless you and god bless your families, the greatest country on the face of the planet, i am honored to be here. >>this is a fox news >> this is a fox news alert, donald trump canceling plans for secretary of state mike pompeo to travel to north korea citing insufficient progress on denuclearization. general jack keane ways in shortly. the president keeps the pressure on his attorney general, donald trump takes to twitter trying to compel jeff sessions to investigate corruption on what he calls the other side. stick around for fiery highlights from the president's speaking before the state republican party in ohio. tonight the family of john mccain says