information of anybody and had the best insight based on decades of. back to you. >> peter dc in washington. thank you. i'm john scott in new york where it is 10:00 p.m., 7:00 p.m. now in arizona were continuing to follow breaking news right now. if you are just doing as we were remembering the life and legacy of arizona senator where he real and former president of candidate, john mccain. longtime senator died tonight at the age of 81 after a battle with brain cancer that lasted more than one year. president trump offering his deepest cities in respect to the mccain family tonight as a nation are members legendary figure in american politics. dirty me to talk about john mccain's life and legacy former arkansas governor mike huckabee, governor, thank you for being here. you competed against john mccain and you also campaigned with john mccain.

tell us your fondest memory. >> the fondest memory was not when he beat me, john, i will tell you that. [laughter] it was never personal. in fact, john mccain was able to defeat me in south carolina and that was the turning point. i was getting momentum up until that time but he had decided that if he did not win south carolina he was pulling out because he was about out of gas and out of money and i was a critical moment. he and fred thompson had a great plan. the plan was fred would stay in the race, use ready to get out, fred would stay and basically drive back and forth between greenville and freiburg and beat the stuffing out of me every day. that is where my strength was an mccain strength was down in the low country in charleston. it was a very effective strate strategy. we still thought we might pull it off. john mccain ended up winning

soccer liner and went on to win the nomination. it was one of the things the people said to that you upset that they had that strategy and i said no, i admire them. it was a brilliant political strategy. it was honorable and nothing untoward about it and nothing unseemly or unethical but good, strong, hardball politics. it's what we all get into this business to do. you know, i always thought that was a smart and shrewd move and it was the reason he ended up being the nominee. he and i got along great. i did campaign with him and for him vigorously throughout the rest of the 2008 campaign. never had a regret about that. i was proud to be able to give them my support in 2008. john: i was struck in reading his biography that he actually replaced senator barry goldwater in the u.s. senate. he served couple of terms in the

house before then but in 86 he was elected to the senate to replace barry goldwater, obviously, in arizona senator and conservative icon, former presidential candidate himself. >> and some of the, he was a stalwart of the conservative cause. he was often unfairly maligned because to go back to the 64 campaign with lyndon johnson and there was so many things for him but he was an honorable man and a man of deep principle and conviction. i think there was a lot of that the rubbed off on senator mccain. he was a person who clearly listen to his own counsel and he believed in what he believed mr. byatt and if it made him the one sheet out of the hundred in the fold that went the other way, he could be the prodigal. he did it not just to be different but i think he did it because he truly believed what he was doing was the right thing. if it bothered everybody, even

his closest friends, he still did it. you have to have some admiration for a person who has the depth of his own convictions and is willing to do that. one thing i did see in senator mccain on the campaign trail, close relationship with his family, and you know, you get to know people better off the stage and on the stage. in the campaign bus, backstage and it's where you find out what people are really all about. i was always struck at the extraordinary level of love and respect that his children after him and i really think of all the things you said about a person, the people who do my best, if they left the most, that probably is a lot more than his political opponents or the editorial writers or the commentators, talking heads, many of whom may have crossed paths but never had that kind of intimacy that his family had.

john: governor mike huckabee, good to have your insights. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. john: once again a little more, a little less than 36 hours after it was announced yesterday morning that john mccain would be forgoing any further medical treatment for the aggressive cancer that ultimately took his life. the end for the senator came at 4:28 this evening in arizona. that was about 728 eastern time and john mccain succumb to cancer at the age of 81. joining us is kelly, senator who worked with senator mccain, obviously in the senate, until just about a year and half ago. senator, it's good to have you here. so many of us knew the end was coming but john mccain was such a fixture on the national scene,

six terms in the u.s. senate. it's hard to believe he's gone. >> it really is. it's a very sad day. he was a dear friend of mine and i served on the armed services committee with him. he was the chair of the committee and his devotion to our military and his leadership encourage, we all know of his sacrifice, not only in vietnam but his whole family served and his son served in the military and he's just an incredible example of an extraordinary person who's lived his life with courage, loved this country, a great patriot and it's a huge loss for us. john: he spent six years, almost six years, as a prisoner of war in vietnam. it was torture there very badly, for years in solitary confinement and it nearly cost him the use of his arms. he was severely crippled as a

result of the torture he endured there in the aircraft shootdown that resulted in his capture. yet, at the same time, he was one of those who pushed to end the embargo on vietnam in the 1990s. i think that says an awful lot about the forgiveness that was in his art and the fact that he was able to move on from a terrible experience. >> yeah, i had the privilege to travel to vietnam with him and i can tell you the way he is received now by the viennese people is incredible. think about what he went through and the price he made for our country and asked to go home and said no. the fortitude that took and what it took for him to stay there when he's being tortured. the courage that he showed throughout his life but it also,

i think, and made them appreciative of life and appreciative of people he always stood up for people's human rights and their dignity and that was something that was important to him. probably going back to his experience as a prisoner of war and you think about what it took to be able to survive through that. every day he got up that great and fortitude in every issue he approached with that determination. john: i know he had served for some time in the senate when you arrive there. was he one of those who give you advice about what it's like to work in that institution? >> yes, he did. because, as i said, i served on the armed services committee with him. he was the chairman of the committee in such a young voice for country and national security for our military. yet, he gave me advice. it was always really straight. he always said -- i saw him this year when he was ill and you

know what he told me? he said do the right thing. he said that will work out and even if people disagree with you, you have to do what is right in your heart. he never strayed away from a fight. he said if you believe in something, stand up for it and you have to fight for it. john: let me read a statement from the republican national committee on his passing. they write -- there are many in washington who talk about veterans, who talk about the troops but there aren't that many who lived that life and

experienced front-line combat the way senator mccain did. >> yeah, first of all, he's a one of a kind extraordinary and mixed ordinary leader and he leads a tremendous legacy. he not only talked the talk but really walked the walk when it came to our veterans. i traveled with them too many war torn areas and there was -- wherever there was a troop, john would go and visit them, their families and when he ran for president he would meet regularly with the families of those who were killed in iraq. he used to -- he would wear a bracelet with the name of a soldier who was killed on new hampshire in the line of duty and that's how much it meant to him. to his core, you know, he was a patriot. the military and their families

were important to him. john: he was, of course, a two-time presidential candidate and lost their public and emanation to the man who went on to become president, george w. bush and ran again in 2008 and competed in for a time was leading in the race against barack obama, senator at the time. from illinois. barack obama has just released the statement and let me read it for you now. john mccain and i were members of different generations, came from completely differ backgrounds and competed at the highest level of politics but we shared for all our differences of fidelity to something higher. the ideals for which generations of americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched and sacrificed. we saw our political battles even as a privilege on the nob noble. an opportunity to serve as stewards of the high ideals at home and to advance them around

the world. we saw this country is a place where anything is possible and citizenship is our patriotic obligation to ensure. few of us have been tested the way john once was. we are required to show the courage he did but all of us can aspire to the courage the but the greater good above her own and at john's best, he showed us what that means. for that, we are all in his debt. michelle and i send our most heartfelt condolences to cindy and their family. once again, that's a statement from president, former president barack obama. john mccain after he lost that race to then senator obama was pretty gracious in victory. i'm sorry, in defeat. it was a hard fought campaign, senator, perhaps you can shed a little light on that. >> well, what i can say, of course, coming from new hampshire, john came back twice to win the new hampshire primary

when people saw his campaign was over so he really had a special relationship with my state came to presidential politics. i will tell you that for john it's the dignity that he had after he lost that campaign he wanted to bring the country together and heal the country. it's tough to imagine losing a presidential campaign and putting your heart into it but john thought it was more important to bring people together and that is the type of leader he was. john: kelly, former senator from new hampshire. it's good to have you on. take it. >> thank you, john. john: we just had some of the video of john mccain up. ed, spent a long time in washington covering various branches of government including the senate. interesting to see senator joe lieberman behind mccain. they were close. >> i remember being at the republican convention in st. paul in 2008 and joe

lieberman as a democrat, very nearly became the vice presidential nominee. john mccain later years that he regretted not taking him and there was concern among his brain trust that is a pro-choice democrat who had been on the ticket with al gore just eight years earlier in 2000 that he would lose the conservative base. john mccain, frankly, thought i should have all the dice. i listen to the smart people about what i should've done, would have, could have, should have. i covered that 2008 campaign on the mccain side and you are absolutely right that he was gracious. in the final days of the campaign remember a moment and i believe it was in wisconsin but in the midwest and you have these candidates and their tired and they know they are likely to lose in the final days and when they're on the losing end of it and they might do multiple events in their tired and worn out and someone talk to him at a town hall and started

disparaging barack obama and questioning his nationality. maybe another candidate who was losing and thought this would help them in the polls might have piled on john mccain said, no, no, no. he's an american. i just have a disagree -- he is a good family and i have a discriminant policy. i just have a different vision of america. i remember him releasing every is a brave, courageous moment for john mccain amid the rumors and attacks to say, no, barack obama is a good man. i just have a disagreement with him. i thank you brought that for your spirit when you hear the senator talk about going and how she served with him in the senate. i remember way back in 2009 to the senate and i, and others asked him, did you think about

retiring or walking away? some people in defeat with a heck with it all go back to the ranch in arizona. he mentioned his life to the service. as of america for 50 years, going back not just to the senate but military service. he the grandfather, admiral, 1906 academy graduate and his father and maybe admiral admiral john mccain junior earned the silver star during world war ii. john mccain said something to me about how both his father and grandfather when he retired from the navy died quickly. they no longer had a mission. they no longer had a vocation. he wanted to stay in the fight and that's why he kept running again. some in in the conservative base felt like he abandoned them and do not like him in later years and felt like the obama care vote that he split with president trump on and there were tense moments but he wanted to go back to the senate and fight for his pencils. john: there he is, the destroyer, probably the pacific right now. it's named after his father and grandfather as well. a ship that is quite a thing to

behold. >> his mother is still alive. roberta mccain, 106 years old. lindsey graham tells a story that if years ago, i believe in her 90s or right around 100 years old, against her son's wishes she went on a european vacation and wanted to rent a car and i don't know and i don't want to disparage the company but -- linda graham says roberta mccain tried to rent a car and they said i'm sorry, ma'am, but you are too old. we have rules and liability and you can't rent a car. she wanted to take the car to various countries around europe against her son's wishes. she turned to the rental car person said, how much is the car? they got her price and she said i'm buying it. she bought the car and traveled around europe with that car. my point is john mccain and we got to go megan mccain really well here at fox, cindy mccain, the entire family, these are people who are strong and they

had a tough battle, tough fight in recent months and you wonder where does megan mccain, john mccain that toughness, that spunk? yes, his father and grandfather, navy admirals but his mother who is still alive, pretty tough woman as well. john: apple does not fall far from the tree. frank donatelli is joining us. he was senior campaign advisor to john mccain. was that in the -- was that -- frank tell us about that experience. >> right, that was 2008. i moved over to the republican national committee to be senator mccain's person at the rnc. for the last six months of the campaign. while the campaign lasted almost two years and i think we were ahead for ten days, but senator mccain was the happy warrior always. always working very hard.

one thing i remember was from early in the campaign this was when president bush had announced the search to try to save the american effort in iraq and everybody was walking away from that but not mccain. he double down and supported the bush surge and we give speeches across the country and basically what he said was i don't mind losing an election but i don't want america to lose a war and that is how he began the campaign and that's the way he brought his candidacy to the right people and how he conducted himself always. john: he came in to political office during the reagan revolution and it's my understanding that he opposed president reagan's plan to send the marines to lebanon because he felt like there were too few in number and would not be able to amount to anything and given

what later happened at the marine barracks, it was in prescient observation that yes, he did. that was his position and he turned out to be correct. in retrospect that's exactly what happened. the marines were holed up in the barracks and they had no mission beside keeping the warring factions apart and we had the terrible blast that killed over 250 marines and again, i think that is john mccain even his good friend ronald reagan, someone he admired and he was willing to stand up and speak about, especially national security issues and it was something he believed in strongly. john: at henry just told us the story about senator mccain felt that his father and grandfather both died early and too young and once they left the service

because they didn't have a mission anymore. i wanted to get your thoughts on that. his time in public service, to the energized him? to that prolonged him? >> well, you know, the fascinating ring about senator mccain is that he had the ability never to look back. he obviously had a lot of setbacks in life. his time being a prisoner for, being tweeted so brutally as some of your colleagues were talking about. yet, when he's in the senate 20 years later he's able to put all that aside in support president clinton and normalizing relations with vietnam because he felt it was in the national interest. if you had to in capsule what he believed it came in the second campaign, 2008, the title of the campaign was country first.

you can disagree and he disagreed with members of his own party but was never a nefarious or poor poor reasons but always because he honestly believed that the stand he was taking was in the best interest of the united states and i was always instruct him. john: frank donatelli, good to have your memories tonight. thank you. >> thank you. john: grant what is joining us. attorney general in arizona in the 1990s. also chief of staff to john mccain when he was a congressm congressman. grant, thank you for being here tonight. >> no problem. thank you for having me. john: he spent two terms as a member of congress before moving on to the senate and did you know this man was going to have the political career that ultimately he had, six terms in the senate, to run for president? >> well, you know, frumpy much

day one our goal was to get john to the senate. he belonged there and it was foremost on her mind so, i think, that was our for legal and when i first met john mccain right after he moved here to arizona, i'm a native arizona in, and i like nelson who is this guy, he's moving here and going to run for congress and i met him and walked out of the meeting and immediately thought wow, this guy is amazing. i was for him and thought, yeah, he could go all the way but wherever he wanted to go before let's talk about what happened now and is my understanding that under arizona law the person who replaces him will be appointed by the governor and that person has to be a republican. do i have that right?

>> yes, that's correct. that's what our office. john: his term will expire in 2022, so another four years for whomever the governor chooses? >> i think the way the law reads the governor will appoint and that person will serve until now until the next election. there's not enough time for this election so that means that the will come up in 2020. i gather, i guess it would be for two years and have to run again. that's what were looking at. it'll be a governor's appointment within the same party to go to the next regular election which would be 2020. john: so, there will be two new senators from the state of arizona, jeff flake is retiring and john mccain is now passed away, as of this evening. there are some who say this could be an opportunity for democratic pickup. do you see that? >> yeah, i definitely see that.

that's a very real possibility as far as the jeff flake seat, they have an excellent candidate and we will see the bargains nominate on tuesday. that's a real possibility. john: it's been a long time since he was presented by a democrat but we will see what the election brings. >> right, we've elected democrat statewide in our recent history. governor napolitano was elected twice and attorney general, goddard, elected twice statewide so arizona in a presidential year when everyone turns out is actually fairly moderate. john: there has been some discussion of the possibility that cindy mccain might be interested in taking the seat that her husband held.

do you see that as a possibility? >> here is the thing. you know, those of us and john has been one of my closest friends for all that time 1982 and i think those of us around him have just refused to even talk about any of that all along the way here. the governor, to his credit, his really chastise people who got out and started campaigning for speculating about that. as you would expect those with great integrity. i think we'll get that time and i'm sure the governor will do the right thing here. he will appoint great person to the spot. john: let's talk about your memories of this man who you say was one of your )-right-parenthesis. you know, i interviewed him a

couple of times and i would read stories about him and he had the reputation of the nickname of the maverick but as a politician and as a political leader, tell us who he was? >> he was a maverick, for sure. to know john, that was his first instinct always. that was in life, not just politics. if you tell him to walk this way, he walked the other way. i talked to people who knew in high school and nothing has changed. as far as a leader, i think he's been such a great voice for america and for the strength of america and why we are unique. i think some people, some politicians, some leaders have never don't really believe america is that unique.

we are like europe or anyplace else john mccain was always the strong voice for people who were seeking freedom from around the world. he believed what we believed that every person has the right to be free, not because the government because that's what god gave us. that right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. don did not just talk about it but stood side-by-side and never forgot the people around the world were just seeking what we take for granted. i think, the role of america and the world and the role of us with our allies to be that shining city on the hill, he believed it and hopefully people will get back to that and a member that we are a special country the only special if we

keep ourselves special. john: tammy duckworth, served with john mccain in the senate and she still is there as a democrat from the state of illinois. she put out a news release or a statement this evening and it was interesting that i had not illness but she said when she was a legless helicopter pilot having been shut down in iraq she met john mccain for the first time while she was recovering at walter reed hospital and he joked, she writes, that he and i both flew in to a missile and that did not take much skill, it's what you do "after words" that matters. that's part of the statement from and a tammy duckworth. >> yeah, that is great. he was always self effacing and had a tremendous sense of humor. i will miss that. the daily joke, and having fun. that is not surprise me and i think it's another thing that

people underestimate and i know so many senators, republicans and democrats, whose worldview has been shaped by john mccain. he's taken them under his wings and armed services committee has been a tersely bipartisan and gives everybody their voice. takes him on trips and even the liberal democrat come away from that not necessarily agreeing on politics across the board but john having a better understanding of why it's important for our country to stand up for the cause of freedom around the world. i could give you a list of names of offenders who i know their worldview has been shaped by their tutelage and their experiences with senator john

mccain. john: grant woods, thank you for joining us. he was chief of staff for john mccain when he was a congressm congressman, also attorney general in arizona for eight years in the '90s but grant, to give her much. >> okay. thank you. john: it was just a little over three hours ago that the longtime senator from arizona, john mccain, left this world. 4:28 arizona time he died at his home in his beloved sedona, arizona. alecia kania is joining us and she's outside the arizona state house. alecia. reporter: hello. you can see over my shoulders that the flags were lowered to half staff in pretty short order after the announcement came that senator john mccain about this earth. we started to see the outpouring of love for the family and the

honoring of a man, true american hero must governor to see putting out a statement saying john mccain is one american who will never be forgotten. he was a giant, icon and american hero. your home we are most proud to call them a fellow arizona. we've heard that a lot tonight. he was a hero and an icon, formidable rival but he was also a dad. he was also husband and there are seven of his children who are morning tonight and his wife, cindy, put out a statement but he quickly on twitter thing that her heart is broken. i am so lucky to have lived the adventure of loving this incredibly man for 38 years. he passed away he lived, on his own terms, strived by the people he loved in the place you love best and you mentioned that jo john, his ranch just south of sedona that he does, did love so very much and we were talking

earlier about the passport on how i had this conversation with former senator john kyle and he served in the senate for 18 years together and he said we did a lot and travel to places and at the moment this was before his passing he said there was not much silver in this cloud but what there was that he was in a place that was his favorite on earth. this was his ranch. he loved the barbecue and the sound of the creek and the water there and the animals and the hawks and eagles and the little dog and all of that meant so much to him. that's a place where he received family and friends and the people who are by his side including megan mccain, his daughter, we've been talking about because she was part of the fox family such a long time and special to so many people at fox and also without a statement talking about her father and saying i was with my father at

his end as he was with me at my beginning and the 33 years we shared together, he taught me, colectomy, comforting me, encourage me, supported me in all things he loved me and i loved him. he taught me to live his life and his care ever present always ,

if he didn't agree with it and, as you know, father and grandfather both buried at arlington national cemetery but senator mccain has expressed his desire at one point that he be buried at his alma mater, the navy academy in annapolis. we are awaiting word to see if that is the way that things will go but john, of course, doesn't that just sound like a maverick. john: it doesn't even alecia in arizona where senator mccain passed away this evening. alecia, thank you. president trump did not always see eye to eye with john mccain and vice versa but we have a statement from the president. this one i have says -- also,

the statement from president george w. bush says -- that statement from president george w. bush, 43. ed henry is still with us. again, a guy who discovered washington for a long time and is a great deal about the institution. he is not voted since december december 7, ironically, pearl harbor day. it's been about two thirds of the year he's been out of the chamber and of course, everyone

remembers that he was the deciding vote on derailing republican efforts to -- >> repeal obamacare. they were successful later in repealing the individual mandate of obamacare which is the heart and soul of it but, you know, president trump, as you mentioned a moment ago, has been direct about being out there and the political rallies and insane we should not talk about this and i'm not going to go on and on and on mccain is not well right now but i'm not happy about that vote and so he's been direct about that and frankly, john mccain was direct about his disdain for the president on national security and foreign policy in the early days of 2017. he challenged this demonstration that gets at the maverick image and frankly, there are a lot of the president's allies who are frustrated with how john mccain approach as president.

look, he was someone who lived a full life and let's not forget and gloss over there when you read that same it from george w. bush there were better moments in the 2000 campaign. i'm sure you remember. john mccain and cindy mccain were not happy about rumors of personal nature and other things that came up in the campaign that the accused the bush campaign and other republicans of spreading and the bottom line is barack obama but out this wonderful statement, as well tonight, rightly so because i don't want to diminish the fact that john mccain and barack obama did have a friendship despite political differences but i also recall covering president obama and i believe 2009 when he was fighting it out over healthcare john mccain standing up to a democrat president, not just president trump in later years, and barack obama snapped a john mccain. do you remember the moment where he said, john, the election is over and i won basically.

that was petulant moment and let's not forget as democrats say barack obama and joe biden say one thing and on trump is at odds with -- john mccain lived a full life, through elbows around and not going back to his neighbor days but 60 years of service all told between military and the u.s. house, senate and i mentioned a few moments ago i checked what you were talking to other guests his grandmother, navy admiral john mccain senior, was on the uss missouri on september 2nd, 1945 when the japanese rendered. as suggested, senator mccain told me he died four days later, as he left the service. john mccain's father, admiral john mccain junior, earned the silver star in world war ii and died in a military aircraft over the north atlantic as his own service in the navy was ending. i mentioned that because john mccain was open in his later

years about talking about how he had little opponents wanted to see him retire and he said, you will have to deal with me for a lot longer. peter made this point earlier. you go up to him in the hallway and ask a question and he says ed henry, you jerk. what you want? as grant was with saint monico it was his sense of humor but he was tough, rough but he also like to spar with you and he did that with president trump, did that with barack obama and reporters. john: douglas, he was an economic advisor to the senator's campaign for president in 2008 and doug is good enough to join us now. douglas, this was a remarkable american. you know, i was on the air yesterday morning when we learned that he had decided to forgo treatment for any further treatment for his brain cancer.

you knew then that the end was coming soon but i guess i just do not would be the soon, less than 36 hours later. the. >> well, i think there are hundreds if not thousands of people who have seen in the past days say it was a great honor of their lives to work with john mccain and i'm one of those. it brings it home. you never thought it would end. the ending is sad but he faced a terrible diagnosis with great courage, as he lived his entire life. he was an inspiration to us all for a very simple reason. he's widely understood to have said the board to live for something more important than yourself, a greater cause. the thing i always member as he got you to do that. i did my best work for john mccain and it took me a long time to realize because it was

not for john mccain is about and to the notion there is good cause and is worth the extra effort and the time away and whatever it took to get it done. he inspired that everyone around him. about two event one of the few who got to do that. john: and was telling us the story reminded me that he left the campaign trail for a time during the 2008 campaign because of the economic crisis and for you on the campaign at that time and what transpired? >> i had to organize the briefing for then senator john mccain, presidential candidate in new york and quite frankly the folks who talk to him, whether now larry kudlow, leg whitman, john taylor, esteemed academic from harvard and a variety of wall street leaders and what they told him was the world is ending and it was one

of the most frightening apocalyptic things to face and to his credit, john walked away from that really disturbed and from a political point of view he made a huge mistake. forgot was running for president and decided to be a senator and to go back to the seat and get something done. there was a way democrats would let him go back to dc and be the hero but i've always admired him for in that moment forgetting his ambition and remembering the country was in trouble and that the government is not doing anything. john: it wasn't just -- some people at the time thought it was a political stunt. >> it could easily be interpreted as a stunt and there was a lot of debate over whether it was a smart idea but i'll leave that aside. was never a good political person. i'm the policy i think i saw man was unhappy about the fate of the nation.

it's one of the reasons i work for him. i admired those instinct. he cared deeply about it and did things, which at times, were not the wisest because he thought it was important to the nation. that instinct was his greatest instinct and every time smart people like me try to overrule it was to his discredit. he never should've listened to any of us. john: he says that when he went with what he thought was right for the nation those were the best political decisions he made and when he occasionally strayed from the notion that when he got into trouble he says. >> i think that's absolutely true. there are many things to admire about him and there will be a temptation in his comments to him as a saint. he was not a saint. with a difficult human being with manifest flaws. who, i just love to death, but the thing that was forgivable was when he made the mistake, he admitted it and apologized and

he made a lot of mistakes and made mistakes of listening to people like me and in other ways but i thought he was a fantastic visible notion that this country and it was a shining city on a hill and people need to remember that whatever his domestic politics and then, even as late as 2017, he was in 24 countries on four continents and going to burma and belarus and syria because he cared about freedom and about dignity and human rights and thought everyone deserved what we had in america. it was his best character and best rate and i admire to the end. john: douglas aiken, was his 2008 campaign economic advisor and sharing memories tonight with us. doug, thank you very much. >> thank you. john: interesting that according

to a gallup poll taken in 2017 to mccain, who was a republican senator, had an approval rating among republicans of 51% and among democrats it was 71%. remarkable. >> because of that maverick nature and he gets to the protection the president trump's allies frankly have about his vote against the president on obamacare. we don't need to get in to those facts on a night like this but you're right to bring up the number. in later years with someone across the aisle more and more and work with people like ted kennedy, for example, on immigration, healthcare. chad pegram we mentioned earlier, senior capital producer sent out this note saying john mccain, by dying today, died nine years to the day that ted kennedy died of brain cancer, as well. they had the same form of brain cancer in both battled it

valiantly and odd coincidence that the two men worked together for a long time the senate -- i remember walking the hallways with mccain and they be working on immigration and he said teddy kennedy, and never thought but again, i know that's a four letter word right now, mice and get along and douglas says john mccain did not always get along and i'm not turning them to a saint but he was a fighter and he could be ornery and he lose that sometimes. i remember the 2016 campaign i was covering hillary clinton we were in new hampshire and racing to the boston logan airport to get home who do i went into but john mccain? he was raising money for his campaign in the boston area. bottom line, he said what are you doing and i said following hillary and he rolls his eyes at

the campaign itself as ed, been there, done that, not running for president again and he said down and i remember two things, one, he had this big thick book he was reading and was on the history of the navy and there he was at that point way into his 70s and on a plane still reading about his blood navy. the other thing he kept quizzing me about no space off because he told me paul goldman was a favorite player, first baseman, slugger, for the diamondbacks. you see him in later years when he got a break back on before his battle with cancer he would go to the diamondbacks ballpark a lot. governor huckabee was talking about how much he and mccain would talk about the love of barbecue and the grill in the ranch and for all the political battles, mccain was a baseball fan and a lover of history and you see him with joe lieberman and that was a big moment in the

zero eight that he regretted that he didn't pick him as his vp or. he felt that he should go to the market people that are reaching across the aisle and going with a democrat because he's my friend and i think we'll get something done. it might not have worked, we will never know but he regretted that in later years. john: he did pick sarah palin which was a momentous choice and sort of a resident at breaking choices away. >> female under public and to get, someone who's a maverick herself but brought her own controversies and mccain had regrets about that. i also did speak where they didn't see eye to eye on everything but he had great respect for him. john: i'm told from a friend of mine who does these things that there will be three services for arizona and the national cathedral in washington and one in arlington, not arlington, at the naval academy. he is working to be buried at

the naval academy in annapolis. those days were details will be coming out in the days to come. once again, chet is on capitol hill and he has known senator mccain for a long time and if you are just joining us, john mccain passed away tonight, 4282 arizona time, about 7282 eastern time. chad pegram has chased him down the corridors of the senate building for quite some time and he mentioned chuck schumer is proposing the renaming of the russell office building in senator mccain's honor. i find that surprising because of coming from senator schumer, a democrat, but also where the senators who have passed away, ted kennedy among them. and that has not come up until now.

can you tell us why? >> in the senate office building ted kennedy, as you mentioned, died nine years to the date and they named after he passed away what was the big caucus room which is famous for having supreme court hearings also hearings on teapot dome and hearings on the titanic in the name that after ted kennedy. that's in the russell billing. the senate would have to vote to change that and we don't know if that's the case. they named it after richard russell for a reason if you go back one of my favorite books of all time, it's about linda johnson and there's an entire chapter about the russell's of georgia in order to understand lyndon johnson yet to understand richard russell. over the years there's been things we know about richard russell and his views on race that might not comport to how we view things in canterbury society but it's unclear if this would get any traction but the building is important to john

mccain. it's where his office is been for years where the armed services committee which he chaired is and there's a statue of richard russell there and i don't know but i'm not seeing them rename a full building like that. only three senate office buildings and that used to be the only one and then named the next one they built some years ago after dirksen and bill hart, the most minor one. not seen anything like that on capitol hill renamed but here in the past hour on capitol hill they lower the flags to half staff and we would expect the senate comes back in session on monday to have tributes on the senate floor in the senate is mostly debating nominations and their the frontline nominations as we would expect when the senate comes in at about 4:00 o'clock to have tributes to john mccain. they usually put a black cloth across a deceased senators desk and flowers and they will adjourn when they finished for the day in honor of the passing of john mccain. john: let me read a statement

from his fellow arizona republican, senator jeff flake. words cannot express the sorrow i feel with john mccain's passing. the mccain family has lost a loving husband and father. i have lost a wonderful friend. tributes are pouring in from every corner of the capital, every order of the country tonight. chad, this is a guy who into terms of the guardsman, six terms as a senator and made a lot of friends. >> i learned something about john mccain i did not know. we give him as united states senator but he was in the house for four years first. for selected in 1982 and i got an e-mail from the republican attorney general in ohio, now running for governor, and he was a freshman classmate john mccain and house of representatives. what i do not know about john mccain is that he was the freshman class president and house of representatives and the usually left a class president. there was something i never

heard in all my years of covering john mccain here on capitol hill. that is significant. he said he was a leader from the beginning and all the way through the end. one of the most marked things, how mccain would let his temper get to the best of him and revved up and he was absolutely apoplectic and there was a big energy build those moving to the senate a few years ago and he was appalled at how many lobbyists were in the capital. i remember after super tuesday 2008 and was apparent he would be the nominee and had not wrapped up the delegates yet but mitt romney was dropping out and mike huckabee was down to the third tier and i remember there was a press conference down in norfolk, virginia and i was there and i tried to yell a question right away and mccain put up his hand and said wait, will have to cormier and to question from nbc first and came

back to me but he was always trying to remind people of their better angles and he would let his dander get up. i remember years ago in the mid- 19 '90s he was on a show on pbs and they were talking about the vietnam war in his captivity and there was an administration official from the johnson era who was there and he said i'd still be held there if you were still in charge. he was not afraid to get people a piece of his mind there. john: well, well, he had quite a reputation on capitol hill. at henry telling us he had quite a sense of humor and he could be a little irascible at times but the world has lost a great patriot and a tremendous supporter of our military and veterans. >> john, you would remember in chad and i have talked about this but you see them in the senate corridor and he'd about to do a tv appearance and a

staffer would come up and call john mccain's hair. why would he do that? or she do that? because john mccain cannot lift his arms over his head because of his captivity. >> and the torture in north phenom. >> those scars stay long time. john: back with more on the passing and the life of senator john mccain. any object. any surface.

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>> this is a fox news alert. i'm john scott in new york. arizona senator and war hero john mccain has died at the age of 81. mccain's death comes shortly after it was revealed that he was no longer in treatment for the brain cancer whichdiagnosed. the tumor was discovered during surgery to remove a blood clot. mccain was born august 29, 1936 at the naval station in panama. us territory, at the time. that became an issue during the 2008 campaign because he is not been born within the continuous united states. he was the grandson