♪ high, i'm greg gutfeld with tammy bruce, juan williams, brian kilmeade and dana perino, "the five" ." life is all about holes. you spend your life trying to fit into one without the last thing you should want to because when you die, trust me, you will fit. no matter how round of a pig you are, eventually you go nicely into a rectangular hole. it's your job to do what john mccain dead, never willingly fit, never lie down and buy it, make a fuss and make everyone work harder. you can major life by the size

of the hole that's needed to accommodate it. there are people whose exit leaves a grand canyon size space that can never truly be filled. senator mccain left that space at a lock at law condolences often may feel trite, they can help fill that space especially when there are millions of them. senator mccain was foremost an independent thinker, a round peg in a world capital of square holes. he owned his thoughts, critics be. acute shrug stuff off that would have left us in tears. five and a half years in a prison camp will do that to you. he was feisty, funny and real. we need a good john mccain and not just any dumb like every generation but every day. someone who reminds us that we don't have to act the same and to know is that there's a difference between a good idea and at the latest idea. the earth is covered in cemeteries, endless green acres of rectangular holes. if there's one near you and in the future. but if there's an army of round

pegs, filling square holes won't be easy. and like john mccain, be a little less predictable tomorrow than you are today. rise of politics is only a small part of life, not life itself. be the round peg that refuses to fit in. >> greg: dana, i heard you earlier talking about john mccain when the news came out. let me get your thoughts on his passing. >> dana: i didn't know him until after 2001, i came to the bush white house after 9/11. any time that john mccain was around, it was a joyous time. he could be quite cantankerous. you will find that there are many people in washington who got their heads ripped off by him but they always respected him. he was a joy to have as an ally and could be a really tough person if he wasn't on your side. he commanded such respect that you would have to listen to him. one of the big disagreements was

about enhancement interrogation techniques in the wake of the war on terror and a nine he felt so strongly, and you couldn't disagree because obviously he had gone through it and he knew what he was talking about. i remember those fights, but the other thing i remember, because i wasn't there on the 2,000 campaign, i only knew john mccain as a friend to george w. bush and an ally. as i learned more about how difficult and a tough and bitter that primary was, when george w. bush finally wins in south carolina over mccain, what a remarkable level of forgiveness happens between adversaries, then they can go on to work. then as a staffer that's really great because then you can work with their staff and there's no bitterness. what i really enjoyed in the past two days is reading stories that i didn't know. a few of them had to do with all the things that i really loved about him, especially the freedom fighting, his belief that america was a force for

good in the world. he would never, ever during recess take a vacation, he always went to see the troops or visit somebody who needed america's help. obviously he will be missed. he is is unmanageable. he evokes strong emotions in people. nobody is neutral. >> greg: no, that's real. brian, i don't know if you had any personal feelings about him? >> they are all based on a true story. when you first break in at 22 you have the workstation at the worst time and you walk into a locker room and they treated just like your mite flag. so you are not on the network. john mccain treated everyone equally, he would come on to deliver it. he had something to say every day and i'm wondering, it seems like there was only five people working on the senate. on every major issue, next thing

you know, he's in syria at 78 years old. there's a problem in ukraine, and it's five or 10 degrees below zero. john mccain will come on with you in the morning. the other thing i keep in mind, he sincerely admitted when he was wrong. he always regretted it, and i don't think this is wrong but he regretted the confessions they beat out of him in the big picture. i also think that when it came to the collapsing of the economy, i think that at one point he lost to barack obama. barack obama calmly picked up the phone and talked to paulson. in retrospect, he said i could have handled that better. it's kind of cool to see. >> you must have interviewed him

a number of times in your career. anything that could strike you? >> he could get really angry. john mccain would be furious with me at times. >> greg: what for? >> the one that stands out as an oh seven he was losing the republican primaries. the question was, why is he carrying on? well, he just -- well, he did not react well. and he especially didn't react well when he came back and wanted. he love the idea that he would stick it to me and say, you are supposed to be so smart. that's the way he felt about it, and you know what strikes me, through it all, anger or whatever, was the sense of honor. you know people in the military and the rarity is that his granddad and his dad were in the

military. he's not an outstanding student but he is a dedicated person. i think he's the kind of person based on the honor that he displayed as a politician that i would want at my back if i was under fire. when you saw john mccain's statement, the statement he issued knowing he was about to die, he talked about american ideals in terms of, this is a country based on the idea, not on blood and soil. he spoke with the depth that i don't hear from politicians about what real patriotism is. politicians are always glad to wrap themselves in the flag. but not john mccain. and he could have done it more easily than any of them because he really was as dana said in a prison camp and tortured. not just tell about tortured and displayed to me what was the greatest example of honor that i

could think of from somebody i know, which is not to allow yourself to be free to because the enemy knows that your dad is in charge of the troops. and you are not going to let yourself be freed as a propaganda statement and leave lever her brother brothers behind. i don't think there's any higher attribute that i could give to john mccain. a >> greg: that's an amazing story. >> and i know a lot of people have serious disagreements. if there will be time in the future to have those critiques, but this is the time to reflect on somebody, and all of us really, more than what we see on television and more than one moment and what they've contributed within the larger context. this final statement shows something very appropriate across the spectrum about not surrendering come about what really matters. and that's the message especially for trump supporters that they can learn from, that

no matter what is going on, you continue on with what matters to you. none of us are going to get out of this alive. we will hopefully have a wonderful moment at the end where we can think about what mattered. if we did what we could, in every single way. that's what i think all of us are trying to do. he also mentioned the thing that gave him the strength. i worked on that campaign briefly in a peripheral way in 2008. the difference was his family, his wife and his daughter megan, and that of course was a foundation for him i think that makes a huge difference for every politician that everyone who does these things. in the future there is going to be much more critique and a discussion about his legacy and the nature of what he has been able to accomplish, and i think ultimately it's about sticking with the principles, not being bullied away from them, and i think we are in a good position

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>> dana: 's stunning statistics about the growing up opioid epidemic in america. 32,000 die from overdoses along with opioids accounting for almost 50,000 of that total. geraldo rivera joins us with them on the ground of look at this crisis. he joins a task force of the dea, tennessee bureau of investigation and local authorities. during a federal drug investigation in tennessee, geraldo, i will turn it over to you to explain what you do. i believe you done some your views on the ground as well. >> welcome to nashville, the capital of tennessee. the state capitol building majestic behind me and the flags on the top of the state capital have waved at half-staff. about halfway between here in nashville and knoxville in the eastern part of the state,

there's a little town called salina, tennessee, in clay county. 1500 people live in salina, tennessee. 1500 people, served by four big busy drugstores. doors for big busy drug stores last year according to the dea road 1.3 million prescriptions, 1.3 million opioid pills were prescribed by those for drugstores in that tiny town of salina, tennessee. obviously what the tennessee bureau of investigation suspects is that some of those drugs are being diverted or that the doctors are overprescribing, that those drugstores have become prescription pill factories, dispensing drugs to people who pay the freight, but causing the kind of carnage that your reference of the top of the segment. 72,000 americans dead last year

alone, that's up from 64,000 in 2016. 72,000 last year, and it continues to rise. see martin reda, the dea administrator in charge of the raids on those drugstores spoke with us this morning and guided us through this process. here it is. >> at this point we will make sure we get records and look at records and analyze the records, look at the dispensing logs and prescriptions, all of the drugs. we will do a count of the drugs to make sure there is not any actual diversion happening. >> garaldo: was booked to the people that were apparently in charge of two of the four big drugstores and here is their side of the story. when i confronted them with the suspicion held by the dea and tbi, they are overprescribing

way too many opioids. >> kind of a shocking way to start your day. how do you feel? >> i feel fine. >> are you confident that all the opioids are prescribed and it legitimate? why such a large number? why people coming from kentucky? >> i don't have hardly anyone coming from kentucky. >> why it's such a high number of opioids prescribed? how do you feel about the dea coming to your drug store this morning kind of suspecting that you are dispensing more opioids than you should be? >> no comment. >> garaldo: but can you explain why so much traffic in this little town? >> no, sir, there is no. >> for drugstores here to serve the population of 1500 in the town of salina? >> i can answer that, sir. >> garaldo: we know how the

mexican drug cartels are killing americans and we know how the chinese and their fentanyl factories are killing americans, that she said at the top, over 50,000 of those overdose deaths are caused by prescription pills prescribed by drugstores right next door. we have to check to see if they are doing the right thing by the customers. >> dana: thank you for that. greg, this is a topic that you talked about a lot. there is a problem with overdoses. >> greg: i think the problem right now is the overdoses are from street drugs containing fentanyl. if you look at patients taking actual prescription drugs, it's .3% per year. when you look at opioid overdoses, it's very misleading when they say 50,000. it's a combination that is killing people, combination of opioids, benzos, cocaine and alcohol. a lot of times people use that

as a lifestyle party drug. they overdose and they buy it on the street. why am i bringing this up? we are unfairly punishing cancer and pain patients by limiting their access to prescription drugs. when they reduce the number, the overdoses actually go up. what does that remind you of? prohibition. when you made it harder to get the booze more people were dying of alcohol poisoning because they were using an unsafe product. if you are a conservative and you are for banning prescription drugs, then -- if you are for pursuing prescription drug companies then you should be pursuing gun companies. if a gun is used in an armed robbery, illegally, you should be suing the gun company. you should be setting an automobile company if the car was in the getaway car. so you cannot be a conservative and say, you are suing drug companies because somebody is buying drugs on the sea.

>> i would say this, if i have a gun i know it's dangerous. if a doctor in a lab coat hands you the is and says -- you just trust of the doctors. but you don't think that the painkillers that you get when you leave the hospital or because of your ankle injury, you don't think -- >> greg: 97% of the people using opioids are using them safely but the other percentage are those using them safely on the street. >> i would also add that, when you are not given your prescription for opioids, people go to heroin. that's where you get the higher rate of overdoses. also when we had more nationalized health care's, we moved toward that in 2009. the statement from barack obama in 2009. we will not serve to solve every difficult problem in terms of end-of-life care but, maybe you're better off not having the surgery and taking the

painkiller. that frame of mind, don't -- somebody prescribes a pain reliever and static, that's what we saw beginning in 2009. and then you get indoctrinated into that if you well, something we need to move people out of. >> the thing i think is missing here is it the attention big pharma. and you guys have underplayed the risk of addiction. so this is what you were talking about, it may not be the people who are treated that end up dying from it but they become addicted to it and then they end up going to the street. they go to the other drugs. >> what greg is saying is, we have now -- doctors are afraid to prescribe and the pharmacies are -- >> greg: 99% of the

people using it, and again, we are forgetting that people that are overdosing our mixing? >> and as geraldo was saying, the drug cartels from mexico and the drugs from china, that is where i think hopefully -- >> they give you 24 pills, you should be responsible for those 24 pills. a lot of kids are going into the cabinet and grabbing those. >> dana: 's letter with a gun gun? >> absolutely. >> dana: exactly. president trump said he is replacing the nafta deal with a new arrangement. details coming up next. ♪ otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla . it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with...

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he says will replace nafta. the president asked describing the impact of the tentative agreement with the neighbor to the south also outlining his plans for canada. >> president trump: i like to call this deal the united states-mexico trade agreement. i think it is an elegant name and i think nafta has a lot of bad connotation for the united states because it was a rip off. i will be terminating the existing deal and going to the steel. we will start negotiating with canada relatively soon, they want to negotiate very badly. but one way or the other, we have a deal with canada. >> jesse: so brian, what do you make of it? there's some emphasis on trying to bring car manufacturing back to the u.s. but in general it does not seem like a huge leap over the deal that the president blew up. >> there will be some provision, and you mentioned the internet.

evidently jared kushner, there's a lot of -- they underlined what could be happening to the president and republican has said, i kind of like nafta. i want him to come to congress to ratify it. my sense is, if you told me, what are the chances of mexico in a transition from old leader to new leader, agreeing on one-third of nafta as opposed to canada. there's no way that's going to happen. i got mexico done first and guess who was looking over his shoulder the whole time? canada. this is why they hired him, they are forging some of these deals to modernize and approve. and it was over 26,000, gained over 250 points. >> dana: and this seems to be

the overarching support of president trump. they know that the economic relationship with states matters. they know president trump means what he says. they have to work with him. so that means they have to say yes to certain things because without us, there will be even more economic problems if you have a socialist leader, you have a party down there and they are going to need economic cooperation with the united states. part of it is, living -- automobile manufacturing 75% here versus 62.5%. but what it says is, that's right. mexico knows that america matters and they have to work for president trump and that he's not kidding. this is where you get good deals. >> jesse: while i have a little bit more skeptical view. the president -- and made a tax on only canada but mexico is

ripping us off. >> while nobody went to war. better trade means for better neighbors. and they may not be in there but i think this agreement in principle, it's all good. i don't think it's as big as it could have been the sunset that the top donald trump team wanted was a five year sentence at camp it's a 16 year sunset with the six year review period. i think people got a lot out of it. and i think the new leader said, could you please get this done before i take over. >> i did speak on the locally sourced thing, that what will happen is cars will be more expensive that they are made here and i think a lot of those u.s. manufacturers will figure out a way to make more in china.

>> greg, you and i negotiate aliens. before yes, with things we can't discuss. >> you know it's interesting? donald trump shows how he is far less racist than hollywood. whenever hollywood gets picked off, i go, we are moving to canada. so that steals another talking point away from the media and it also proves all the paul krugman's wrong. so that was kind of interesting. >> they will end up saying that's not that big of a deal. i think nafta was bad for student groups of people and the president spoke directly to them. i think renaming it is fine. if it takes the toxicity out of it and makes everyone for trade again, let's just go with it. >> now what -- >> they've got

that on the table right now. >> what's interesting to me is that the bernie sanders folks, the unions, they are big opponents of nafta because it was taking jobs in this country. then you get donald trump coming in and he comes at it from the right, but i'm not sure that this is bringing me a large number of jobs back. but he will be able to say, he made a deal and i think it's all satisfies wall street. i know, it still goes to work every day. >> and i worry about the big one. >> everyone wants it

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fox news alert, brand-new information about that horrific shooting on sunday. it was caught during a mat in 2019 tournaments. court records reportedly show the suspected gunman who had been previously hospitalized for mental illness and was prescribed an antipsychotic and depression medication. police are not revealing motive for providing details on what happened. >> the suspect clearly targeted other gamers who were in the back room participating in this game tournament. the suspect walked past patrons who were in other parts of business and focused his attention on the gamers. >> authorities also say the suspect had two handguns but

only fired one. none of these people were from jacksonville, and as one of the reporters brought up, he said normally there is a vigil, and no one even knew anybody that was participating that was at an event or regional championship. >> for me, this is -- i love sports but this is ea electronic sports. >> it will be an olympic sport. but these people are watching other people play video games essentially and this young man from baltimore apparently had one at this tournament earlier and was unhappy with something in the outcome. but i don't know if he felt that we he got cheated, or if other people were making fun of him. we know that as described in the opening he had been hospitalized for mental issues. i don't know the details but all i can say is i come back to the

same refrain is that often, i think we have too many guns in this country. do you know where he got the gun from? >> no i don't. they are reading his baltimore apartment. but this is a "no" gun zone so even though florida has one rule when you come to jackson square, you can't bring a gun there. >> its work and some of the gamers are coming for more security. these are turning out to be huge events of all kinds of people from all over the place. they may not even know the local rules or if they are traveling with guns, but they are vulnerable positions, soft targets obviously. one person who is on psychotropics and whose mind is in trouble, then versus terrorism. if you think we would get this when he came to large groups of people so america has been educated on that. already it's been politicized with firearms, ivanka trump attacked for sending her

condolences on twitter today -- >> she came out and said, i offer my condolences but -- >> dick durbin is talking about the gun issue but the problem with that is, when you go immediately to that, it sucks all the air out of the room until you get to the common link in almost every shooting, mental illness. but beyond that is the nature of the treatments. are the drugs that are used especially with the young people and how they affect them. especially just before columbine, is when psychotropics were initially approved to be dealt with when it comes to young people. so that's what we have to deal with directly. >> this guy out of his mind saturday showed up in the same outfit sunday and started shooting into the camera. >> the guy that beat him the day before us of the suspect refused to shake his hand after the match. he was staring blankly, acting weird and bring the same flows from the day before. that's not necessarily something

you would go to authorities about, but to tammy's point, it is a case where there is a group that will always go straight to, we have too many guns. but i think there is the point, when can we talk about the common link, and mental illness. we've been doing this show for seven and half years and we talk about this, i don't know, every other month or so. it's time to have this conversation. biko all right greg, i know you are really hot on this. >> greg: there are many variables and some people find those. you could address the whole thing was a database where teachers and relatives could submit a name to a civil court of somebody thing know is mentally ill. this was the dad's firearm, he would be responsible for that. that way you don't punish it. i talked about this with

opioids, you don't punish the majority of people who are using the product wisely, whether you are driving a car or using opioids or using weapons. it's the same principle. do not punish the lawful, target the unlawful or the mental year mentally ill. >> if you go to a "no" gun zone, you know you are not getting shot. so if you go anywhere else in florida come up with a chance that someone will blow your head off before you have a chance to get your target which is -- i think he wanted 11, killed two and then killed himself. >> there are stats that show that the length of a gun attack is dictated by the arrival of a second gun. >> and may be also what we have seen with the psychotropics, they affect young people differently than adults. and we are aware of that. there are black box warnings about suicide effectively but behavior changes especially with young people.

and, just like with opioids, to save money when a different kind of therapy would work, maybe somebody does need to be hospitalized for a period of time. i know that's politically incorrect these days come by giving parents more power to commit their children -- >> let me tell you, most people with mental illnesses do not start shooting everywhere. so i'm just cautious about the quickness to say, it's about mental -- it's not about mental illness in most cases at all. >> and shootings it is. >> i don't think so, tammy.

but when you have these guns everywhere, and people say, you just should have it, it's illegal, but if you are going to get a gun, we should know exactly who you are and you should have a background check. it shouldn't be like all these guns are floating around. >> let's find out if this is a necklace crew situation where everyone knew he was a shooter. meanwhile 17 minutes for the top of the hour. here's the message. be on time, or due time. high school is handing out punishment for ditching class. we will bring it back. ♪

>> if you think after school detention is severe, listen to these stories. if an oklahoma high school has reportedly burped cracking down on students for tardiness and skipping class by threatening fines and possibly jail time. a state law allows students to be slapped with a $250 fine. they got a lot of money in that school. for missing classes repeatedly without an excused absence and they could even be put behind bars for 15 days. the north carolina appearance of a 15-year-old boy are outraged because he is being punished for being too polite, calling his teacher, ma'am. he was forced to write the word a hundred times on a piece of paper and have them sign it. you guys, this is crazy. i contend that the teacher in that story didn't know what mama

meant, because the issue is usually that you are not respectful in class and when confronted by the mom, she couldn't explain why that upset her. but isn't it also about whose parenting, and you have the school district and teachers thinking that they can do whatever they want because they think there are no parents around? >> you think that there are people around and in this case the parent saw that all the kid had done with say, ma'am. and then the school system, they are thinking teacher didn't look lively. >> it's like for absences within four weeks. 15 days in jail, is not going to the other extreme versus park

land where we weren't allowed to do anything about any misbehavior? >> that goes in the face of everything trending way. let's inflate the grades and make everything easier. you know what i walk away with? oklahoma tends to be tougher and harder on everything. to me this school has some issues and it shows a school faculty that cares. a lot of times you would still disciplined because you care. it's taken the exact opposite way, they don't want your money, they want your attention. >> and maybe didn't get the parents attention? >> but for unexcused absences in a four-week period, basically you are robbing the taxpayers at that point, the taxpayers are paying for you to have the opportunity to go to school. we were lucky enough to be born in america or you are here in america, you're going to school and taxpayers are paying for you to be there. and if you'd -- i don't know about the jail thing though.

>> that becomes another issue, what is the deal is 15 days in jail? >> grace, you've done a hard time, isn't that bad? >> does it make you drop out more than stay when you have this dynamic overshadowing you? >> i think the fear of being put in jail is why i was on the straight and narrow all my life. i think watching dragnet and adam 12, and fbi when i was a kid, i thought that i was inevitably going to prison because there were so many cop shows. i think we grouped these two topics incorrectly. the one about the discipline is really, really smart i think. >> you don't think it's too much? >> i think it's not enough. the other one about ma'am is insane. that's a product of misplaced punishment. so now we are just creating punishment supplements. we are punishing people for just a little things because we can't make moral decisions. >> i still say ma'am and sir.

>> but if you see me out to some people come to think you are being sort of -- first of all, who are thinking they are older to call them ma'am. >> i am. >> not you, dana. [laughter] at the bottom line is the mom wasn't happy, she saw the paper and delivered with the signature is required but then included the definition of ma'am. >> i don't think you have a chance. if you decide to leave school because you don't pay the fine then you are in violation of law that says you have to be in school if you are under 16. >> we will find out what happens inevitably. we have "one more thing" coming up next. ♪ ourse i have- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle.

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mathematicians are never wrong! but it only works with white chocolate. isn't that amazing? it is mind-blowing is dead? who is next, dana. yesterday hawaii won the little league world series by shutting out south korea, 3-0. a home run was hit off the first page of the game giving hawaii a 1-0 lead and it held all game to hold the championship title, this is the first shutout since 2002 and hawaii's first championship since 2008. they are now the seventh u.s. team to lead to three little league world series titles and they are all doing this while hurricane lane was threatening hawaii but they brought home the winning title. congratulations guys. it's because that is great story. >> family live can get busy on the weekends let me show you

what i'm talking about. here's my granddaughter come her grandma took her to the studio to give her her first experience sculpting clay and learning how to glaze and create a bowl. on sunday it was time for her birthday celebration for my daughter-in-law. she is into fitness and sheets a lot of vegetables. my daughter made an amazing cake for her to celebrate her buzz bunny diet. you made a cake that looked like a carrot! here is morgan blowing out the candles. happy birthday morgan. >> all right, let's go. >> a lot of people have said why don't you and greg just fight it out? i said i don't know how it would turn out and then on friday night at premier boxing on fox. that is me, i'm from nigeria or in this and that is the man who is going against curtis harper. there is a size difference and he left the wing.

[there you go. that would be greg. he said i'm not getting paid enough so he left in the middle of the fight. the people were stunned. nobody gets paid. the trainer doesn't get anything. >> what happen if you bought a ticket? >> if you want to take it you in trouble. >> maybe had a digestive issue. >> i thought it was about the money! yesterday of course on sunday was national dog day. i have a great dog she is 13 years old, there she is. cindy ruth, a rescue dog. my first dog, first experience with that kind of unconditional love that requires everything from you. 60% of americans believe that owning a pet can improve your life and that dogs do that in particular. sydney of course pays her respect to america's dog jasper.

she is a cancer survivor. if you don't have a dog i would recommend it. >> all right, never miss an episode of "the five." what is up bret baier? >> brett: high greg. i am bret baier in washington and tonight the senate is honoring one of its own, longtime arizona senator john mccain died of brain cancer over the weekend, right now his former colleagues are eulogizing him. this occurs as the personal animosity between him and president trump has expanded beyond the grave. john mccain made clear before he died to that president trump was neither invited nor welcome to any moral activities. while not mentioning trump by name, which was read today in arizona. mccain delivered a rebuke of the president saying "we weaken our greatness when we take down our