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forward to you winning your next championship. that is all the time we have left this evening. let not your heart be troubled. we are not the destroy-trump-media. we don't make up fake news. there she is, missing in action. ingraham is back. where were you? where did you go? >> laura: i'm just really special. >> sean: [laughs] i agree. i'm not debating that. >> laura: they change to the desk, hannity, and i understand that you golf with tiger woods, have you not? >> sean: no, i've never golfed with tiger woods. i wouldn't dare good on a golf course with tiger woods. are you kidding? >> laura: you played tennis with roger frederick. >> sean: no, but i did line judge -- >> laura: were you with a ball boy for the jimmy connor match? >> sean: how did you know? you can see it in the video. >> laura: you had this blue-collar background but if
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you go to all the wimbledons, the training videos, you see hannity with a short white shorts. it's embarrassing. >> sean: i didn't have any money most of my life. >> laura: oh, god. will we play this game? who was more poor? >> sean: you been missing a week. people want to hear from you. >> laura: i have a question. how many bathrooms did you have at your house growing up? >> sean: one. three older sisters. >> laura: i did, too. >> sean: it's called hell on earth. >> laura: i have three older brothers, six people, one bathroom. we can't debate this. all right, hannity. thanks so much. good evening, i'm lauren graham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington, d.c. it's great to be back on a historic night, despite the constant noise from the naysayers, not a promise kept. the president striking a stunning trade deal with mexico. in moments, we speak exclusively with white house economic divisor larry kudlow at the mexican foreign minister who helped make it happen. and the democrats continue to
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indulge in impeachment fantasy, of course they do. but do they do so at their own expense? their own peril? some shocking evidence i had. plus, the death of an american hero being used as a resistance prop. we'll explain. and the catholic church at a crossroads, a former vatican ambassador to the u.s. making explosive claims that pope francis knowingly protected a predator. bishops are not taking sides, a special monday appearance by raymond arroyo later in the hour. but first, trump's trade triumphs. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." ♪ >> laura: is the media fixates on sideshows that will have zero impact on american lives, things like the manafort verdict or stormy daniels' latest brawl or even recently, the issue with the flag going up or down, half-mast, full mast, trump is methodically fulfilling his campaign promises.
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today, he delivered on the huge one. announcing a new trade deal between mexico and the united states. now remember what he said during the campaign. >> i'm going to tell our nap wow snapped our partners i intend to immediately renegotiate the tert agreement, to get a better deal by a lot, not just a little, by a lot, for our workers. a trump administration will end that war by getting a fair deal for the american people. and the american worker. the era of economic surrender will finally be over. >> laura: and boy, is it. today's agreement makes critical changes to u.s.-mexico trade. among them, 75% of auto parts will be produced in north america. that is up from 62.5%. any vehicle coming into the united states. and 40-45% of auto parts will be made by workers earning at least
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16 bucks an hour. good stuff. the deal also strengthens intellectual property, and financial services trade protections, also improves the trade of digital products. from the start, though, there were those who said, it couldn't be done, trump can't do it, it's all a bunch of bluster. and when trump raised the ante, threatening to impose new, tough tariffs on mexico and canada, the reaction was apocalyptic. >> we are in the nascent stages of a full-scale trade war and the president simply seems to want to escalate at. >> it is not just my state that is involved here. it's the nation. it has significant consequences for us here at home. not only just economically, but politically. >> if you alienate mexico over the wall, and over nafta, what you end up doing is electing this summary much more nationalistic, much more radical mexican president who will not cooperate. >> laura: it turns out they are on board with what they
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discussed. just like the moving of the u.s. embassy to jerusalem, the renegotiation of the trade deal with south korea, and trump standing up to china, the so-called experts have consistently gotten it wrong. underestimating trump. you see, the president has his own team of real experts. these are people from outside the old globalist trade establishment who are responsible, frankly, for those complicated, multilateral deals that hurt the american worker and destroyed american industry. from the start, members of trump's team, like jared kushner and u.s. trade rep bob lighthizer were committed to leveling the playing field and creating reciprocity between nations. that means fair dales that will allow all parties to prosper. isn't that what we want to? in the bilateral deal, country to country, may indeed end up being the most enforceable and the most beneficial for all.
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both the current and the soon to be mexican presidents see the wisdom of bilateral arrangements with the united states. now they would like canada to be part of that but if not, they are not going to sabotage it. this is what trump touted today. >> they used to call it nafta. we will call out the united states-mexico trade agreement. we'll get rid of the name nafta. it has a bad connotation because the united states was hurt badly by nafta. for many years. now it's a really good deal for both countries and we look very much forward to it. >> laura: now it's up to canada, which is sending a rep to washington tomorrow to either sign onto the maxima deal or try to fashion its own bilateral deal with united states down the road. >> we will see whether or not we decide to put up canada or just do a separate deal with canada, if they want to make the deal. the simplest deal is more or less already made. >> laura: in the meantime,
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trump is moving forward. as i said, why should mexico and the united states allow their trade relationship to be held hostage to domestic politics in canada? of course, traduce stonewalling. the strides made after a year of negotiations are really impressive. any objective observer, if there is any of those left, would admit that tonight. by the way, this is going to set the benchmark for any future deals in this hemisphere. now if the reaction to the stock market any indication, a surgeon reaction to today's news, congress should fast-track the u.s.-mexico trade agreement and keep the trump economy humming. and that is "the angle" ." joining us now the reaction as a secretary of foreign affairs fo. it is great to have you on! thank you so much for coming. [speaking spanish]
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let's talk about what happened today. how significant is this in the relationship between mexico and the united states? >> it's really significant. i think it's a breakthrough. it shows that two countries can actually get together and do a good deal. a good deal for both of them, that is reciprocal, that is fair, and allows growth on both sides. it's good for mexico workers, american workers. i think it's a great deal. >> laura: "the washington post" column, she discussed what this meant and what about canada. let's watch. >> trump really needs a win. he needs a win before the midterms, wants to be able to say that he has renegotiated nafta, in that case, he needs canada on board, he had this very short window to get canada on board. otherwise the whole deal could fall apart on the mexico side. >> laura: what about that? the whole deal could fall apart on your side if canada, when they come tomorrow, got those
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economic minister coming tomorr, it's all over? >> let me tell you how we explain this to the mexican people prayed for almost two years, we've had great uncertainty as to whether we would have access to the u.s. market through the trade agreement. losing the u.s. market would be significant to mexico. but what happened today signifit because we are guaranteeing that we will have a trade agreement with the u.s. we love canada and we want to have canada as part of the deal. but in case, for whatever reason, canada is not able to join, we will still have a deal with the u.s., and we move on. the next coming days, the next few days are going to be crucial with whether canada is part of the deal. we're going to work 24/7 to enable the possibility of canada being part of the deal. we really have a strong relationship with canada. we want them in. but if, at the end of the day,
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for whatever reason, they are not able to be part of it, we will move on to have a very good deal with the u.s. >> laura: jared kushner, when he came into the white house, and a lot of people thought, the president's son-in-law, what does he know, why would he have any position of authority, how critical was he in your working relationship over the last couple of years relayed to get this done? >> jarod has been absolutely instrumental. i would say that we would have never arrived without his hard work and his vision and just his courage. you know, we've been through some rough patches in this relationship. we've had our moments where things were almost falling apart. of those very difficult times, jared was there, holding up the relationship, and enabling this moment to happen. so when we get to this point where we actually have a deal, it's a very good deal i think for both sides, certainly, jared is a guy that should be one of the people that makes it happen.
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through in "the new york times" headline, january 24th, 2017, "facing trump: mexicans think the unthinkable: leaving after." how much -- how wrong, i would say, where many of the experts in what was possible between mexico and trump? >> i think a lot of people thought it was unavoidable, it was going to be a disaster, you know what, laura? a lot of people thought nafta would be over last year, early last year. that there was no way to fix this relationship in a way that would be constructive to both sides. through very disciplined, tenacious work, and with the vision -- >> laura: bob lighthizer, critical u.s. trade rep. you've become very close to him. you guys are adversarial, yet you respect each other's priorities. >> will have tremendous respect for bob. he's a true expert. he's an honest guy. he's really tough.
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>> laura: that's what he says about you. >> he's really tough but he's phenomenal and he's an honest -- she's an honest guy to deal with. >> laura: almost out of time. but almost new president, mexico, a lot of people predicted -- and i was a little bit worried, that when he came into power, coming to power the end of the year, it will be tougher for the united states. how will that work out, really quick? >> we've been working like monkeys. been sending representatives to these negotiations, they've been observers come but more than observers, they been active participants, and i think they are part of the reason we got this. >> laura: your message to the u.s. congress, get this thing approved? >> this is good for mexico, great for americans, grade four mexico. it should pass in both the u.s. congress and the mexican congress. >> laura: foreign minister, the dumb i think you for being with us. we really appreciate it. i spoke to the the presidents k chief economic advisor larry kudlow for the right houses
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perspective. tulare, nice to have you. let's talk about what happened today, we just heard from the mexican foreign minister, of course, about how we got to this place, where all of these naysayers said it was impossible, you couldn't strike a deal with mexico, trump had poisoned the relationship. give us a a little behind-the-scenes look. >> our side, they are sad, you are absolutely right. it kept coming to get together. every time there was a setback, we kept moving. huge, huge credit to jared kushner and bob lighthizer. i mean, bob lighthizer is the team leader, jared was great --dash go >> laura: he wants results, he wants people who give us results. read? >> the president told me probably two months ago, he said i am sick of this multilateral stuff, he said, you go out there, and tell folks that i want to do bilateral. much simpler, much more direct, and i did, and we took some heat
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from it and it paid off. china not paying off, mexico paid off, we'll see about canada. we got the e.u. cooking also. that may be a big positive surprise. you look around, all of a sudden, screaming at president trump, his tactics and his aggressiveness and his plain speaking, looks like it's paying out to me. >> laura: yeah, the stock market, another near record high today, up 259 points. >> this was a growth deal! >> laura: there it is. are you using growth as an adjective? is that something that came with the hard to show you had? you have more hard for the economy. >> it's a kudlow word. i got it into the op-ed in the washington word. growthier prayed and all
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fairness, market openings, better labor values, intellectual property -- >> laura: wait a second, david stockman, reagan's budget guy, reagan's guy -- >> my former boss. >> laura: your former boss. said this today. lunch. >> i think it's a great big p.r. stunt. this is not maga, this will do t for the american workers. nafta was never a problem. the whole thing is, like, a phony issue. >> well, dave is an old friend of mine. he and i disagree in a whole bunch of things the last 30 or so years. by the by, this will help workers. there is good domestic content, there is good north american content laws which are enforceable, going to get labor better value, there is some wage push going on here, that is all very importance. if you are not in the u.s.-mexican zone or may be the north american zone, like china,
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you're going to have a lot of trouble doing business, particularly in autos and auto parts. so i think this really helps the growth story. >> laura: doesn't he represent the old republican party, where if you push back on any of this big trade deal -- and you and i've been talking about this in the radio and tv for literally 20 years now. it's the old guard still speaking out and he was the pro-growth guy. the idea that this is not going to be good for the american worker, with 75% of the parts in any automobile coming into the united states has to be made either in the united states or mexico instead of coming through china, which these auto parts have been coming through, siphoning through mexico coming into the united states, tariff free, larry. and david stockman is out there with neil cavuto saying this is no big deal. come on! what has happened to these people! >> it's cranking as parades is making me cranky. >> laura: you are not cranky. we are part of the optimistic
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view. this is the growth committee. i don't care what my former pal dave stockman said. no digital barriers, bilateral barriers, intellectual property right barriers, this is going to give us a leg up on entrepreneurship and inventiveness, which is really the heart -- >> laura: canada is coming into town tomorrow, the canadian economic minister. she is going to be here, she likes giving speeches. seems to me that trudeau has previously enjoyed triangulating against trump because for him, it's good domestic policy, he thinks, but what they did is -- is this not true -- they pushed it to the max of canada. i don't think canada thought he was going to get a deal with mexico. certainly they are the odd man out. while they ultimately come to the table and agree to this deal? >> they are coming to town and there will be a table. >> laura: [laughs] come on. why is she flying into town?
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to make another speech? >> i don't want to get into personal stuff. what, the president spoke to trudeau today. potus would like to get a good deal, okay? a good deal. but he told the prime minister, and he said to us, if we can't get a good deal, then he may well resort to automobile taxes or tariffs, foreign import taxes. the canadians do not want back. >> laura: they were ridiculing the president today saying, these are american cars. it's ford, et cetera, made in canada, they were all ridiculing the president. saying, canadians don't make cars -- or american cars made in canada -- it doesn't matter. it's the same deals mexico. their american cars but when they have of these component parts made in china, it is not a good deal for us. they don't even know they trade deal and they are ridiculing it. >> by the way, i doubt if they read the trade deal. >> laura: of course not. >> putting that aside, the president has said he would like to have a good deal but if not,
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he is going to go on the car tax, if he has to do it. okay? that is his negotiating form and look, you have to be tough, you have to be strong. trudeau disappointed us a lot, stabbing us in the back, way last spring, the g7 meeting, i hope he doesn't pull any of that stuff again. let's just go back to mexico, because i'm proud of that. there are so many market openings here, as i said, financial services, intellectual property rights come entrepreneurship, it's going to help the farmers. this is great stuff. not tariffs. market openings, on both sides. >> laura: more efficient market place. everyone who said trump's antitrade, it's all a lie, a letter from the beginning. >> trump is a free trader. he wants to get to the free trade, no tariffs, no nontariff barriers, no subsidies, that is his goal but you have to be tough to get to there. >> laura: larry, before we let you go, john mccain, big controversy, the white house
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lowers the flag, raises it, lowers it, what is up with that? what the heck happened with the flag and everybody is focusing on the flag in mccain and the great hero to this country in patriot? >> i think at the end of the day come with a press release put out, with the president statements, that was the right thing. i've known mccain a long time, you have come too. but we all have our eccentricities -- >> laura: we don't, larry. we are perfect. [laughs] we don't have any eccentricities. >> you and i have to sit here and reform the catholic church. we went out as whole another segment with raymond arroyo coming up rates because we are trying to do the right thing. >> laura: we are converts and we act like we own the place. [laughter] hey, thanks for staying up for us. we really, really appreciate it. great to see you. >> i appreciate it. >> laura: [laughs] all, and why the hard left dreaf impeaching president trump may be the ultimate gift for republicans in the midterms. what i mean about that? coming up.
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bipartisan way, is the proper way to do this. but we are not there yet. >> laura: democrats are clearly torn. you just saw that on this issue of impeachment. know deep down i think they know that their activists not job base wants trump impeached. but they just love talking about it. it will help their ratings. but their internal polls are telling them something different, that the country is not that excited about another impeachment drama 20 years after the clinton proceedings. but whatever path the democrats choose to go down, one thing is clear: republican voters sense that this is a winning issue. take a listen to some of the collars on my radio show this morning. >> the impeachment talk i think is wonderful. it motivated me and my family. i think they said at over 200 times at msnbc and cnn and i think enough is enough. there is my motivation. >> i'm not a republican and i'm not a democrat but nothing in this world is going to stop me from getting to the polls in november and voting straight republican down the bill because
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i will do anything it takes to protect this president. >> the personal life of mr. trump, we don't care. we see the results of him being in office and it's amazing. and i'm saying this as a mexican immigrant woman who registered republican and it's not just me. it's many people that i know. >> laura: i love doing radio show. you get the polls from the people every single day, and the mainstream media are totally disconnected. joining me now with their thoughts, dan bongino, former secret service agent, chris hahn, radio host, former aide to senator chuck schumer. great to see both of you. this impeachment talk is fascinating because it's kind of like a trigger finger, a happy finger, you are used to shooting, shooting at targets, then you got to watch yourself. because maybe you will fire at something you don't want to fire out. dan bongino, let's start with you. what about this kind of internal tug-of-war in the democratic party?
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where does their heart lie on this issue? >> here's the problem the democrats are having right now, laura. their activist radical base, the people who are motivated to go vote in primaries, the bernie sanders types, this be 21 supporters, who wear the t-shirts, "we love socialism was court shirts with the big hearts, those people are motivated to get trump out of office no matter what. they are not even interested in the high crimes or misdemeanors because trump's crime was winning the election. that is at. that is the issue they have. the more moderate, if there are any left, reasonable, rational democrats up on the hill, understand this is a total, complete loser. you have people like eric swalwell, who usually before commit a democrat congressman, who represents a radical district, in california, he may be okay saying that but you go to a joe manchin type, if you were to win reelection in a senate race, you think he is going to vote for impeachment in the senate trial? are you kidding me?
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that's a joke. give me a break. >> laura: chris hahn, i get why the democrats are kind of in this -- seemingly impossible position and away because that s where the juice is. we will get trump, we bowled two hearings on whether jared kushner really should get a security clearance -- they've been listing all these investigations that they want to do. if, indeed, they take the house in november. but you get the sense that the regular folks out there, they are just not that jacked up on a year or two of hearings. i just don't feel it at least. >> i don't know, it worked for the republicans for six years when they controlled the house. it's all they did was hearings. look, i don't think impeachment is going to be on the table unless you have a large group of republicans decide that they feel this president needs to be removed. i don't think that's going to happen, given our current environment. but i do believe that the president should be subject to checks and balances and i think most of the american people
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agree with me on that. i think that is why you will see the democrats at least take the house, if not the house and senate, come november. impeachment is just one way to do things -- >> laura: that's funny! >> impeachment issues when we do things, laura. i know you and i are both fans of "the princess bride" -- so was dan, he won't admit it -- you know the last scene in "the princess bride," wesley is talking to the prince and he says it's not a fight to the death, the death to the pain. that is what is going to happen in the last two years of the trump presidency. if they tried to go and take them out of office, they will guarantee him four more years. i don't think the democratic party wants to do that. i think what they want to do is make sure that the people who are making things bad in this administration, the cabinet secretaries who are abusing their power, -- >> laura: that's a different matter. i get that. >> that stuff needs to be looked at by congress in this congress has been feckless and doing at -- >> laura: i get that. if democrats have the house -- actually, things that are helping in the government, i understand that. we are talking about, why does
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he not release the tax returns -- americans already litigated that brady was called the election. i also want to get your thoughts on something else. last week we all heard from the media that trump was finished, dan bongino. watch. >> after this week, i think it's safe to say that is certainly the end of the beginning. >> this is got to be the worst week the president has faced since taking office. >> what might be donald trump's worst recover as president. >> this was donald trump's were as weak as president, and no doubt, the worst week of his life. >> laura: do they really need glasses? that's my question. an nbc "wall street journal" poll shows the the presidents l numbers are remarkably stable, barely moving from surveys conducted right before and right after the manafort and cohen news. dan, they were flummoxed over at msnbc today, chris jansen -- i was to work with her years ago -- she was like, what do you make of this? the president's numbers aren't
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moving. i'm screaming at the tv, dan, during my radio show, saying, because the media are irrelevant. nobody cares about what you say is the worst week. dan bongino? >> laura, i've been honored to be doing cable news appearances for a long time. are you to do other networks. i don't anymore, for obvious reasons, they don't want to report the news. you know what they do another networks? they washed it was happening on fox. to those of the networks now, listen, everybody is laughing at you. they are not laughing with you. they are laughing at you. you know, laura, that's our minds of an article i read, i forgot what it was, but i think jonah goldberg wrote that. he read wrote about how the governments war on smoking work. everybody knew a smoker, they know how to get them to quit, and it mattered. the media has no idea whatsoever how to talk to people who live in heartland america, they might be -- >> laura: because they hate -- >> they can't stand them. >> laura: they look down on them. >> they think they are --
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>> laura: got to get chris and hannah. chris, look, the democrats have had trouble connecting with the blue-collar workers, republicans have a challenge with suburban women, clearly. but there does seem to be a disconnect. whether your blog and our democrat on this middle america, what they care about, what verses with the media are all hot and bothered about. chris? >> warily are political careers destroyed by a bad day. if the drip, drip, drip of scandal that is going to ruin the republicans chances of holding the congress in novembe. there is been drip after drip after drip and the campaign starts the day after labor day and people are going to start hearing about those trips, day in and day out, and there is more to come, more than likely. and that is the problem for the president's party, not necessarily for the president. the fox news poll last week was very telling. i think it's had a lot of things. this poll obviously has been very stable but most of this poll was taken before -- but one
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scandal never ruined your career, it's the drip, drip, drip. >> laura: got it. good conversation, guys. up next, the death of senator john mccain, an american hero, being used by the media to bash the president. we discuss it next. why would we leave now? because i'm retired now. so? we're voya. we stay with you to and through retirement... with solutions to help provide income throughout. so you'll still be here to help me make smart choices? well, with your finances that is. we had nothing to do with that, uh, tie. or the suit. or the shirt. voya. helping you to and through retirement. thethe more you know theme, commute is worth it. for all the work you pour into this place, you sure get a lot more out of it. you and that john deere tractor... so versatile, you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home.
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♪ >> laura: my disagreements with john mccain over the years notwithstanding, he was an american hero, an american patriot, serve the public for 60 years. 60 of his 81 years. but to some in the news media, the most important part of his life was his last three years, when he feuded with donald trump. i wonder why they are doing that. and there was little love lost, we know the outcome of between trump in the late senator but a simple question is now the time to constantly invoke a political feud? joining me for their text, ari fleischer, former white house press secretary for president president george w bush, monica crowley for the london center
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for policy research, and juan williams, cohost of "the five." juan, what do you see happening here? there's been a nonstop series of complaints about her president trump first tweeted about her, the statement was a long enough, the way the flag was lowered, it should have stayed lowered, then it was lowered again, to me it seems like a lot of this is getting away from john mccain the man and back to criticizing trump the president. your reaction? >> i agree. i think you have to honor john mccain, that man, especially now as we go into the season of breathing and paying respects to him and his family, he certainly was an american patriot. i think almost the definition, and our generation, laura. i do agree with you about the media. i don't think the media is the one that refused to release the dash i don't think it was the press that lowered the flag temy and put it up back and then changing course. i don't think it is the premise that has been out there taking
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shots at john mccain. i think that's donald trump. >> laura: you know, the current code for allowing the flag, it's been a tradition that is lowered for the day of the da member of congress, ants in recent years, has lasted for sel days, but it's not like trump did something that is completely out of the ordinary. i mean, i probably would have kept it lowered until he was actually buried for you to speak of the american legion's has the same thing. >> laura: that's fine. again, to turn those, ari fleischer, into -- well, mccain was this type of man, and donald trump is this other type of man, amoral, without a great sense of patriotism, he was not bipartisan, et cetera, you get the sense that the political types are salivating over the opportunity to use a death to hit trump. am i misreading this? >> no, laura, you nailed it. let me just stipulate, john mccain and donald trump
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did not get along. that is the way two grown-up politicians can act toward each other. john mccain didn't want donald trump to come to his funeral. donald trump can return the favor by being dismissive if he wants. but the press, as they cover this, it's fairly situational. they covered depending on nonwhites in you find yourself in. in 2000, they loved john mccain because he is running against george bush brady 2008 with john mccain ran against barack obama, they didn't really love him anymore. they loved him when he took positions against republicans after he lost the presidential race. then i didn't love him anymore when he was for the surge. now that he is in a spat with donald trump, they love him again. this is how the press covers these things and it is really just to stir a pot, not to shine an eternal light on the truth. >> laura: monica, i remember in 2010 when john mccain was running for reelection to the senate, he ran his campaign commercial about how we need to repair that dang fans. remember, he got a huge amount of blowback from the media, sing, where's the other john mccain parades of again
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come back to ari fleischer's point, the media took shot after shot after shot, when he was mccain they mccain that conservative standing up for the pro-life movement or in this case, building the fence, or the board to structure, but now that mccain is the opponent of trump, they use that as a convenient vehicle to, just days before his burial parades pick of the press has always been shameless but in situations like this, he had put in bold relief come i remember in the run ups to the 2008 election, i remember democratic friends of mine in new york and elsewhere, saying, oh, john mccain, he is a moderate, he's a centrist, he is a kind of republican that i can get with. then after the election, i said, did you vote for him? of course not. when it comes to the media, this is the same media, so many of them, that profess to love the maverick until he won the republican nomination for president. then they began to smear him with all kinds of abominable
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lies and attacks. so this is who they are and we know that. i just hope, you know, john mccain has a special place in my heart because i work for president nixon during the last years of his life. nixon was the commander in chief that brought john mccain home after he was released. president nixon had many wonderful things to say about senator mccain and had enormous respect for him. i think we all share in that. i just hope that in the next two days, leading up to his funeral, that we don't go down this path of, what happened with paul wellstone, who was a democrat who died in office, u.s. senator, very far left guy, and his funeral was turned into this partisan jamboree. i think in death we ought to eulogize these people, honor their service to the country, even when we disagree with them, but to respect their memory. >> laura: juan, marc short said, he said, if trump had been very sentimental toward mccain, they would have ridiculed trump.
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saying, you guys didn't get along. you are faking it now. you said this thing about a captured p.o.w. now you are trying to -- you know, lionize mccain. basically saying, he's if he does and if he doesn't. is there some of that going on with every move that donald trump makes? he just simply cannot won with this media. >> i don't think so. in fact, i think people try to make sure, and the media, that they are not in position to be criticized by laura ingraham. they go out of their way. to me, you got to go back to the idea that trump insulted the guy in a very critical moment and in a way that says you are not of a hero because he got caught. that just offended a lot of people but they didn't stop trump from winning the nomination. >> laura: he got elected. >> i was going to say that. republicans made a decision there. so i think that ultimately this is about donald trump's behavior to a rival and i just don't
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think it's admirable. i do not. >> laura: while, ari, i'll let you close it out. mccain, and 2004, he joked about -- eb number two to john kerry on the ticket, and republicans went crazy. he was kind of joking. but the media loves it when a republican praising obama, praising clinton come with love that. but when a republican is a hard-line conservative on issue after issue, that is when they unload. so mccain is obviously in death, a war hero, getting into an amazing send-off, i think that's fantastic. but trump is not going to be a phony here. he's not going to pretend that he and mccain were buddy-buddy. they were not. trump was tough on him and i wouldn't have said what he said about the p.o.w. thing but you got to say both of them are kind of honest in the end. >> the other part of this that bothers me when you talk about the press coverage is, don't forget in 2008, there were reporters at "the huffington post," columnist that wrote that mccain was a racist. we heard that throughout the 2008 campaign. this is not about donald trump,
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as much as i think that the flag should have been at half-mast, let the two have their feud, it's going to the grave now. but this is not about donald trump. it's about john mccain's life. and this is who we should be talking about, that is what the media should be focused on, and i really don't think this is going to move americans if donald trump doesn't behave the way you want him to about john mccain. this is about john mccain's life, not donald trump sprayed >> laura: an amazing life, and amazing american patriotic experience. thank you all for joining us tonight. but what happens to a celebrity who refuses publicly to track trump? tiger woods is finding out the hard way.
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>> laura: tiger woods is under fire for this exchanger they reported during a tournament yesterday. >> reporter: i think a lot of people, especially of color, feel threatened by trump's policies. he thrown himself into the sports debate, lebron james, the anthem. what do you think -- >> he's the president of united states, he has the respect of the office, and no matter who is in the office, you may like, dislike the personality or the politics, but we all must respect the office. >> laura: so controversial! the president with it is thanks to tiger today to not taking the media's bait. but that storm looks far from over for him.
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joining us now, jason whitlock, cohost of "speak for yourself on fox sports one. jason, what do we think here, what is happening? tiger woods, he's been friends with the president for some time, they play golf, but you might as well you put them up on a cross because he wouldn't trash the president yesterday. >> look, for a number of years, donald trump was popular with all sorts of celebrities, black, white, liberal, conservative, whatever. and there are a group of them come from tom brady to tiger woods to bill belichick, that -- kanye west -- you will not renounce trump. and i don't blame them. i think that the media is trying to force a narrative that if you are black, you have to hate donald trump because he somehow went from 30 years being very popular in black culture, been very popular with rappers and all kinds of celebrities, then he became the president and became the most racist man on the planet earth. some people just aren't going for that, who know donald trump,
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like tiger woods, kanye west, tom brady, and i don't blame them for standing up. >> laura: jason, i want you to react to something that happened today. a couple people you know well on espn's "first take." let's watch. >> we must respect the office, therefore that confers respect to the occupant for a tiger, is that what you are saying? if that is what you are saying, that it's a stupid comment! i don't even know if he believes that is what he is saying! >> we don't know what tiger woods believes he is saying. he's not black. when he got arrested, he was black. >> laura: i don't know what that is. i must be really out of it. >> i think that is how tiger defies himself. this is where i disagree, and i know stephen a, i'm friends with max kellerman, i've known them both very long time. was even a saying because he's not black when he was arrested, they listed him as black, tiger woods, like every human being, gets to define himself. other people don't get to define tiger woods. that is why i reject that by
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stephen a smith. as far as max kellerman goes, look, man, if tiger woods respects donald trump, they have a long established relationship or friendship, if tiger woods was raised by a military father and a tahi mother who taught hio have an ultimate respect for authority, for the country, tiger woods just doesn't buy max kellerman's negative narrative and he has a right to do that. he's an american. he is free to think what tiger woods thinks and what he was raised to believe, not what max kellerman and other liberals who, i guess, just want black people to dance to whatever music they play, they can't dance to their own music, and again, i am friends with max kellerman. i get it. but some of these white liberals just want black people to dance to whatever song they are playing and some people just don't want to do that. >> laura: while mike brey to me, it is beyond outrageous and
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shocking to tell other people what they should think about their own friendship. i mean, what happen to people being able to decide who they want to be friends with? i guess that's not allowed anymore in liberal land. >> i'm taking a lot of heat for saying this but listen, we come in this country, has bought into this narrative that if you are liberal, you are free of racism. if you just paint yourself and that a liberal brush, no one can question anything. if you look at the behavior -- again, i know max kellerman, i don't these races -- but is he behaving in a racist fashion when he's telling tiger woods hk this way? who is dictating the mind-set that tiger woods and other free people, how they have to think? i wish i was that smart to tell myself what to think and others. >> laura: all right, jason, good to talk to you. come on radio soon. great to have you want tonight. coming up, shocking allegations of sexual abuse. to cover up that includes pope francis. raymond arroyo has the latest next.
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archbishop of washington. they knew it for years. what is the real story here? for more, we are joined by raymond arroyo, was cover the vatican for decades, and a fox news contributor. raymond, who are these -- who is the main whistle-blower? >> the archbishop, who you mentioned earlier, the ambassador to the u.s. for the vatican here for about five years. he also ran all of the ambassadors embassies around the world, for the vatican. >> laura: well respected. >> very well respected. man of integrity. a sharpshooter, and a man who has been he been a whistle-blower in the past. in 2011, he wrote secret letters to pope benedict at the time come out in corruption in the vatican. those were leaked and became the scandal. it was his exposes, meant only for the pope's eyes, that got worldwide attention. >> laura: why is he releasing this letter? 77 years old? >> he claims he wants to unveil his conscience, can go to the death with the information he has, he sees the corruption in the double-dealing in the vatican.
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his allegation, the principal one, is that between 2009 and 2010, pope benedict imposed a penalty on archbishop mccarrick because he knew they had paid settlements to men that he had abused. he also took him out of public ministry. now when pope francis became pope, vigano claims he informed the pope himself of mccarrick's misdeeds and the pope ignored this and restored mccarrick. that is the charge. >> laura: that is the allegation and some others are vouching for vigano's credibility -- >> which are part of a full-screen come i want someone to see this. a full screen from the letter of vigano. watch this. it says, "francis knew from at least june 23rd of 2013, that mccarrick was a serial predator prey did an extremely dramatic moment for the universal church, he must acknowledge his mistakes and in keeping with the proclaimed principles of zero-tolerance, pope francis must be the first to set a good example for cardinals and bishops who covered up for mccarrick's abuses and resign along with all of them."
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he's calling for the pope's resignation and for all of these people. >> laura: it's exploding all around the world. coming on that big family meeting in ireland, which was not well attended. here is the pope reacting to the news on a plane returning from that family conference in ireland. >> translator: i read it and i will say sincerely that i must say this to you and all of you who are interested. read the documents carefully and judge it for yourselves. i will not say one word on this. i think this statement speaks for itself. >> many catholics are saying it speaks for itself a they feel the pope should have done some disclaimer, said something, it looks like an evasive answer. it makes the public bad. in the meantime, bishops around the united states and the world, texas, arizona, the entire catholic, they save these are chargers that need full investigation. they are demanding that from pope francis. >> laura: could this lead to
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oh, my god. this -- i mean, what else would a lawyer, former lawyer for the clintons do? sorry, but misrepresent, we'll be on that tomorrow night. i'll see you on the radio tomorrow. we love hearing your thoughts. follow me on twitter. shannon bream nsb 30 team coming up next. i'm sure on the story and a lot more. >> shannon: we will hit that one. welcome back, laura. great to have you back in the family. >> laura: thanks so much. >> shannon: we begin tonight with a fox news alert. as top canadian official is cutting her european trip short, heading here to washington as early as tomorrow, as the president says nafta's outcome of the u.s.-mexico trade agreement is in. a live report adjustment minutes and then senator john thune is here to weigh in. plus, in honor of senator john mccain's life, president trump orders like that have staff after flakes of the white house started the flags a. tonight, the president makes his first public comments on mccain's passing. we saw mccain at a huge date right dinner for evangelical leaders. pastor robert jeffress was
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