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someone, it's a red card. [laughter] >> that's true. that's very good way to speak of this could be useful, i don't know. >> sean: they can pull them out quick. let not your heart be troubled. ingram is here. >> laura: i love the red card. if you are nice, you give them the yellow card. hannity, when i played field hockey, i got just as few yellow cards and maybe one red card. it was -- >> sean: i got in trouble. i played ice hockey. i spent a lot of time in the penalty box. i was a big fan of the broad street bullies, reggie leach, hound dog kelly, dave schultz. that is what i grew up. speedy one oh, my god. that is why people love you, hannity. awesome show tonight. >> sean: he had no teeth, none. speedy one that is like gordie howe on those guys. >> sean: when you rode a bicycle, did you wear a helmet? >> laura: ever. are you kidding?
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>> sean: but you make your kids wear a helmet. it's crazy. >> laura: we wrap our children, hannity. it's crazy. >> sean: helicopter parents. >> laura: great show tonight. i'm more ingram. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. what a show we have for you. the case of hillary clinton's private server. this will not go away. now there are -- this doesn't surprise me in the slightest -- that china was attacking her emails in real-time. peter schweizer, best person we could have to break it down is here tonight. the primary book voters had the polls in three states tonight and at this hour, polls have cld and arizona, where candidates from both parties are vying for the chance to succeed retiring republican senator jeff flake. it's too early for fox news to call a winner on both sides but we'll have a live report on the ground at all the pivotal races for this november's midterms and plus we all talk to of tonight's big winners we already know and
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that president is also taking aim at some tech giants who he believes in many of us do our unfairly targeting unfairly targeting conservatives. that will be a spirited debate later in the hour. but first, the press prosecutors and partisans. their incestuous relationship. that is the focus of tonight's "angle. "last month, cnn ran with a bombshell of a story. >> sources of knowledge tell myself and karl that michael cohen claimed that then candidate donald trump knew in advance of the june 2016 meeting in trump tower in which russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on hillary clinton. crucially, these sources tell us that cohen is willing to make that assertion to the special counsel, robert mueller. >> laura: rye is quizzical most had so much bigger than the other two hides? [laughs] i don't know why i focus on that. well, the accompanying article on their website revealed that
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"contacted by cnn, one to cohen's attorneys, lanny davis, declined to comment." just a week ago, lanny davis, michael cohen's attorney, doubled down again on cnn. >> i think that the reporting of this story got mixed up in the course of a criminal investigation. we were not the source of this story. >> laura: okay. a little problem there. he was lying! lanny davis was actually the major source for the entire story. he was also the anonymous source that confirmed its other outlets. now this week he came clean telling "the washington post" that he is not certain the claim is accurate and that he could not independently verify it. and yesterday, he tells buzzfeed news that he regrets his whole role as an independent source in
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a subsequent denial of his involvement in the story. if you can follow that. davis merely saying he "made a mistake." but he actually didn't. lanny davis is an old clinton fixer who has been spending information on using the price to do his bidding for decades. this was deliberate. and the folks at cnn were only too happy to join him in this misinformation charade. why? because they have a common enemy: donald j. trump. so davis floats a malicious and salacious story to target a political adversary and the media gleefully disseminate it. now cnn's studio and bernstein delighted in this tale of trump's misdeeds because it fits the pathetic russian narrative that they have been trying to substantiate for a year now. they used to call cnn, remember, the continuous network and the date, with lanny davis as an
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unpaid contributor, it is more fitting than ever. forget 1998. it's fact. this reminds me of the disgraced fbi director jim comey. we call him james "too tall" comey, who planted more stories than martha stewart has planted hydrangeas. okay? comey passed as memos of classified conversations between himself and the president to a friend. remember that memo to the file? and he did it for media consumption. >> i understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president as a private citizen. i felt free to share that. i had felt a very important to get it out. >> why didn't you do give those to somebody yourself rather than get them through a third-party? >> i was buried there. he was cambric at the end of the driveway at that point and i was going out of the town and i was worried it would be feeding sequels of the beach. >> laura: i had forgotten he said that.
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so we are led to believe that he really doesn't like the press. comey, while he is throwing the. remember these greatest hits from the wikileaks podesta inbox? cnn's john harwood sent emails to hillary clinton. campaign chairman john podesta shamelessly sucking up to him offering campaign advice and praising the candidate. he was with her while he was covering the campaign. then there was juliette halpern at "the washington post." she dropped podesta a line to ge was going to publish and she included a little preview, how helpful. and "the new york times"'s unbiased glenn thrush, he put her in a parents as well. he wrote to podesta a story in progress to make sure "i'm not
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fing anything up." like lanny davis, podesta was a freelance editor for both "the washington post" in "the new york times." these are just a few examples of collusion that we know about only thanks to wikileaks. but today we learn from congress and mark meadows the danger of this kind of pledges isolation of the media and partisan story planting. he tweeted in part, "we learn new information suggesting our suspicions are true. fbi doj have previously leaked info to the press and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify fisa -- foreign intelligence surveillance act -- and meadows then spoke to "america's newsroom" following closed door hearings with fbi officials. >> we know that some people of the department of justice and fbi actually gave information to the media, then the stories were reported, then they used those reports to justify further
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investigation. >> laura: it should be noted that the fbi tonight is pushing back hard on this story. a source clarified the agent testified that the fbi routinely uses media materials to corroborate their work product including fisa materials, but "never said directly that we utilize fbi leaks for fisas." boy, that was a carefully worded statement. got to parse that one. with partisans using the media too. prosecutors are justify bogus investigations, don't we need to be more careful and ask more questions? i think america needs journalists that we can trust. but as it stands now, we not only have to worry about the objectivity of our news sources, we have to worry about their sources as well. and that is "the angle" ." joining us now with reaction,
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the examiner's washington correspondent, byron york. along with attorney and rnc committee woman harmeet dhillon. all right, byron. what do we need to know here? this has been a wild day. blood start with a lanny davis and cnn saga, which is both stunning on his part and i think we are kind of used to that from the clintons and the clinton spokesman surrogates, but cnn? >> cnn's reaction is really baffling here. why they are sticking with the story. >> laura: the story being... it's because they're originally story saying that michael cohens prepared to tell robert mueller that donald trump knew about the trump tower meeting in advance. it was a huge, huge story. now "the new york post" had reported this. they went back to marie reported it after davis confessed that he had not told them the truth, and told the readers what was going on, so did "the washington post." what is going on with cnn? it seems to be that their position as a source gave us
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inaccurate information. we pass that onto you, the listener, but we told you what he said. now we found out that it's not true, but we stand by the story. it doesn't make any sense. you should do with the post didd washington posted, which is go back i marie reported, and tell the readers what happened. >> laura: harmeet, kellyanne conway was on with chris cuomo recently and it was as unbelievable exchange where he was up on his high horse about morality and truth seeking and how hard cnn works on they want to play this for you now because in light of what we have discovered with this lanny davis phony sourcing, i think it is more important than ever to watch this. >> but i will tell you this now and i make it he was a promise. all right? as you know, nobody works harder than we do to do this job. >> who, you? >> in this place, on my team, in this shop of cnn. we work very hard to tell people
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what is true. >> chris -- >> let me just tell you this -- >> let's just have a word about this. >> laura: harmeet, you need to own the truth. what you think about that? >> what's there to say. as a lawyer, have to say i'm temporarily happy to know that the lawyers are not the most despicable people here in the eyes of the public i think today based on these lies and their failure to admit what went on here. everybody who was a reporter -- i'm a former reporter before he became a lawyer -- occasionally a source will burn you, okay, you got to corrected and move on. as part of their job and it happens. to not honor that i think is really showing that we all have two doubt the sincerity if that is the corporate attitude to grossly misleading the public. it is bad news to the public, a black i do see an end, i think the public expects better of the viewers. >> laura: we wonder why the presses numbers are in the
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toilet. this comes after sunday's meet the press were chuck todd, i will put the sound bite, laid blame on this network for causing the problems for credibility. let's watch. >> hate to say it, i know i'm sitting on a "meet the press" round table, but the truth of the matter is, 62% think the media's bias. if you look at the approval rating of donald trump -- >> the conservative echo chamber created that environment. it has been a tactic and a tool of the roger ailes created the echo chamber. let's not pretend it's not anything other than that. >> laura: okay, i think the prez's credibility is pretty low even before 20 years ago. >> can i say something about the larger agenda here? i mean, lanny davis is doing what he's doing, he's telling cnn when he's telling them for a reason. we seem to have a situation in which michael cohen, the client here, the president's former lawyer, is kind of jumping up and down and waving his hands at robert mueller saying, hey, notice me, notice me, i've got
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something. now we've never gotten a story out of the robert mueller -- we've never found a story about this.mueller didn't know about six months ago. he's been way ahead of the reporting on this. we have to figure out that he has no particular interest in cohen right now because he farm his gaze out the prosecutors in new york. so you have to wonder, what are they doing here? i don't really know the answer, but this lanny davis tufted and just come out of nowhere. >> laura: bruce ohr, you've been doing reporting, the bruce ohr saga for months and months and months. what do we take from today's developments? >> the big question had been with ruth or, how high and how far did knowledge about the dossier go, the steele trump dossier go inside the fbi and inside the justice department. because we did not after christopher steele was terminated as a source because he was dying to get bad information about trump after the public before the election, right? so we talked to the press, which was against the rules, so the fbi terminated him, and then
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they used bruce ohr as a go-between, so ohr with dr. christopher steele and then he would go to the fbi and tell them what steele had told him. so i think what they learned today was who else was ohr briefing on this, who else was being kept on this? not just on the fbi but at the obama justice department. >> laura: doesn't have an obligation, harmeet, to divulge his connections to the firm that was producing the dossier that event led to the fisa warrant and the surveilling of the trump campaign? i mean, isn't there some basic sense at the justice department that you have to reveal these types of obvious conflicts? i mean, he was promoting his wife, he was promoting her firm, and at the same time, added bonus, getting the president, orchid the candidates. >> he was creating demand for his wife's consulting service, obvious conflict of interest, also a violation of the
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government's rules not to disclose that. more portly for me as a civil libertarian, the fact that this was not disclosed to the fisa court is shocking and i think it's instruction of justice, quite frankly. laura, i ran the numbers as of last year, 21 warrant had been denied by the fisa court out of over 40,000. that is 99.999, okay? 99.999 are granted. >> laura: despicable. >> the people of the doj and fbi say, hey, don't worry about this, there are safeguards in place, not only do high levels of the fbi have to sign off but also, high levels of the doj have to sign off. it appears that no oversight was done and they didn't ask obvious questions about this. i think this does go higher. we don't know at this point in the testimony but there are a lot of questions that need to be asked. what happened to carter page, this seems to be a systematic issue with the doj and the fbi, and creating stories. >> laura: great segment, guys.
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former secretary of state hillary clinton's private email server was reportedly hacked by another for identity. that issue had been raised before but now it looks like we have more confirmation, it was a chinese own company. the inserted code that forwarded clinton's emails to them in real time. that, according to "the daily caller" news foundation. even worse, the fbi was reportedly warned about that by the intel community's inspector general but did nothing in response. here with his reaction as investigative journalist peter schweizer. peter, this doesn't come as any surprise to any of us who had followed this issue. there was no security unless private email server. classified information clearly on edge. what is your take away? apparently no russia but yes, china. >> yeah, laura, this is a huge a story. i will tell you why. think about this for a second. if the story is true, and the reporter that broke the story, an excellent reporter.
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if the story is true, it means that the only set of all of hillary clinton's emails of secretary of state resides in beijing, china. because remember, she deleted 30,000 emails and never turned them over to the fbi. if you think about this b-17 dossier, the concern that was always raised about that fake dossier, that it would lead to a black male on donald trump, these emails would be a massive black male tool, they were personal emails, probably very sensitive, that is why they were deleted in the first place. you have the existing set of the other 30,000. this is a huge story, and the fact that this information was discovered, then turned over to the fbi, and the fbi counterintelligence office, including mr. peter strzok peter strzok, apparently took no interest in it, is shocking.
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china is the big threat here. they are the rising power are challenging united states. russia is the declining power. if i were looking at an intelligence threat, the number one threat would be china, that is what this fbi director today is saying. china is the one we are worried about. but there was no interest in this apparently by mr. stzrok and others. it's a shocking story. >> laura: peter, i think he reported on this at the time, i believe. when this email server was discovered, it also came out, i believe, that the person in charge of hillary's security on her system was told, we might've had some intrusion in the system, and kind of blew off the concern. i had to go back and get the actual language to get it verbatim. but that is reported, i guess the investigator, he said there was a concern raised, but basically he was shot down. when he raise that concern. period. >> yes, that's exactly right.
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the service that was taking care of the servers raise this with the claims and people and it was dismissed. they didn't want attention focused on even the existence of the server. so the way they try to cope with s was pretending that the server wasn't there. this is a massive breach. look, we were told in 2016 campaign that hillary clinton was the adult. she is the professional, she's the diplomat that knows how to get things done and to do things in an orderly way. this was a massive failure. >> laura: she knows how to get things done to cover up for the contents of the clinton foundation i guess. get things done for the american people, she got a lot of things done for china. i say thank god that hillary clinton wasn't elected given the fact that if the story is true, china has a treasure trove of information, which i don't think is just about her daughter's wedding or her grandkids or whatever her yoga class. i don't think the chinese care about the down dog in hell. i think they are interested in some other issues. >> [laughs]
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that is exactly right. the bottom line is, if you gave any counterintelligence official a choice between being concerned about age is credited dossier, being concerned federal president of the united states has 60,000 emails in the possession of an enemy power and you don't even know what is and 30,000 of them, i think they would view that is a much larger counterintelligence threat than anything that is being raised by the dossier. that is why this issue needs to be re-investigated and looked at. as a counterintelligence issue and problem going forward. >> laura: jeff sessions should convene an investigation, a real, serious investigations, just into this issue alone, frankly. peter, great to have you on tonight. thank you so much. by the way, as i said earlier. it's election night for primary voters in florida and arizona. we've got live reports for you on the ground next and we all speak with congressman ron desantis. kootenai just became the
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>> laura: voters of the polls in primaries across three states but took a particular states will greatly impact novembers midterms.
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for more on what we go to now is in florida ed henry standing by live in miami. ed? >> laura, great to see you. big developments here breaking the sour in florida. the governor's race is going to come down to a dramatic clash between a key ally of president trump, randa santos, against a democrat backed socialist bernie sanders. andrew gillam. it's going to be interesting as we see the democratic party in swing states like this tilt even further left. on the republican side as i mentioned, ron desantis tonight easily beat the state agriculture commissioner adam putnam, where the deciding factor, very clearly was the coattails of the president. the president a short time ago tweeting, this out there about the race "such a fantastic win for a ron desantis of the people of the great state of florida, ron will be a fantastic governor onto november. that from the president. look at how dramatic, help have it all the presidents report was preyed in mid-june poling had putnam beating ron desantis by 15 points,
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mid-june. june 22nd, the president tweeted an endorsement of desantis. by late july, he was up by 12 points. 827-point swing. now tonight here, desantis running to replace retiring republican governor rick scott, who easily beat -- easily won the g.o.p. nomination for a senate seat against income of bill nelson, they will set off in november, that is expected to be a tight race. i mentioned andrew gillum on the democratic side. he beat back a challenge for my more moderate candidate. he's a tallahassee mayor. he won after key endorsements from bernie sanders and after an infusion of $650,000 from liberals george soros and tom steyer, who's been pushing for impeachment for a long time. watch that. meanwhile, another important drum factor in arizona tonight, republican senator jeff flake retired because he is at odds with the trump agenda, unlikely that he would get reelected, he decided to retire. he endorsed congress home in martha mcsally.
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she said she doesn't want the endorsement. she is competing with dr. kelli ward and shafter or pio or over who is more approach on. the winner likely to face kyrtsen sinema in a pickup opportunity for democrats. interesting, we have not been able to call this race in arizona just yet. the polls just closed a short time ago, laura come up that race very significant as well. >> laura: ed, tom steyer and george soros, huge infusion of money in florida, that i undersd is going to be happening in other races, including in statewide initiatives in places like arizona, colorado, ohio, and beyond. so this is just the beginning of what we are seeing. >> it is. what could be significant is in a battleground like florida, which is typically tight, and presidential races and midterms, whether governor or this big senate race here, you have andrew gillum, who has been polled very far left because as you say, he's got tom steyer and george soros money behind him,
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he's a tallahassee mayor, a relatively unknown. this was a surprise win, a shocker really, and he beat back the daughter of bob graham, the former senator and governor, beat back the trailer from her, a more moderate democrat, former congresswoman, is someone who is seen middle-of-the-road, might've been a tougher challenge or against ron desantis, and i have the party pulled to the left. it will be fascinating to see how it plays out in november. >> laura: thank you so much. joining me now is one of the men who just won one of these important races, congressman ron desantis' and other public and nominee for florida governor. he is here now in his first interview since his primary victory. congressman desantis, congratulations. you must be feeling pretty good tonight. >> yeah, laura, i remember you and i talking after we did the debate on fox news, and you are like, "you are not going to be behind much longer after this," and sure enough, we really pulled ahead. we had the president come at the end of july with a huge event for us, and we just had unstoppable momentum. the good thing is, we are going
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to carry this all the way through november and post a strong victory so we can continue on florida's path to success and make it even better. >> laura: are you surprised that andrew gillum wins on the democrat side? he'll be her challenger, endorsed by bernie sanders, and you just heard us talk about, george soros and tom steyer both pitched in a total of about $650,000. it seemed to make a difference put down the home stretch. so you are going to be running against a hard left former tallahassee mayor. >> he is the most liberal candidate that the democratic party has ever nominated in the state of florida by a country mile and a governor's race. he wants to abolish i.c.e., he wants a billion dollar tax increase, he wants a single-payer health care system in florida, which would bankrupt the state, i'm trying to make florida even better, he wants to make florida venezuela. but he also combines the far
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left ideology with managerial and incompetence. as a manager of tallahassee, his tenure has been absolutely disastrous. tallahassee is one of, if not the most crime-ridden city and all of florida, year after year, rising crime, he is embroiled in the lot of corruption scandals, this is not -- is a guy who can't even run the city of tallahassee. there is no way florida voters can entrust them with our entire state. >> laura: now congressman desantis, in your jubilation and your celebration, you may have missed that alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeted out congratulations not to you but to your challenger, andrew gillum, saying, "the progressive movement is transforming the country and he proved that again tonight. gillum ran on rent-a-car for all, legalizing marijuana, abolish i.c.e. and more. thank you, florida voters! onto november." i would wear that as a badge of honor tonight, congressman. >> we have people in florida who have fled socialist countries
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like cuba and venezuela. they don't want that in florida. we also have people who flee from left-wing policies in states like new york and connecticut and they don't want that imported into florida. i think we want to keep florida great, we want to keep it going in a good direction to going in the direction of a ocasio-cortez is just untenable and it will not happen in florida. >> laura: congressman, some of your critics will throw out this, they'll say, well, he won on trump's coattails. but you are short on your own policy initiatives on a statewide level. how do you want your critics? >> that's not true at all. we have a solid vision for how to create high-paying jobs in florida. i've been very strong on our environmental problems and solving our water crisis that we have a different part of our state and only one of the few people have stood up against some of of these entrenched interests. laura, you know they were spending millions of dollars to stop me in the race but yet we've been very strong on illegal immigration, saying we need e-verify in florida,
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weekend of saint teresa deese, i've been somebody who's been a wholesale support are supporter of education reform, from parental choice to vocational training, to more civics education, so we've been talking about these key issues time and time again, and we will continue to do that and spread the message far and wide. >> laura: did you hear from putnam tonight? that he give you a call? >> yeah, he's a class guy, he worked very hard, he was a tough competitor. people say you won big but this guy was a huge organization, he raised a load of money, and he raised a tough race, tried to knock me around, that is politics, but he supportive of where we are going. he knows we got to keep florida in republican hands and he will help me. that is how the things go. i would've supported him if he beat me but you got to move forward as a team. >> laura: absolutely. the president, i don't care what anybody -- he's very popular in florida. the endorsement did help a lot but he also did a great job on the on the hot things. congressman, thank you so much frayed and big tech is once
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♪ >> laura: it got hot today. president trump taking aim at big tech and their alleged bias against conservatives. the president first took to twitter singling out google for what he calls rigged news search results against him. he even went further this afternoon. >> i think it was really taking advantage of a lot of people and i think it's a very serious thing that it's a very serious charge. i think what google and what others are doing, if you look at what is going on at twitter, if you look at what is going on and facebook, they better be careful because you can't do that to people. >> laura: joining me now through action, former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski and jason nichols, a democratic strategist. all right, jason, let's start with you. what about the president's
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thoughts here? a lot of conservatives that i talked to think, wait a second, my impressions on twitter are way down with no real clue as to why, search results seem to kind of speak to themselves when you put in "trump and news," it's all negative. what do you think? >> first of all, would look of a search results on google, just like when you do a google scholar search, what you get are the sources that received the most citations, the one that are cited the most, the ones that actually have the most news bureaus. so this has nothing to do with politics. if he wants better stories, then create better news. it's what he needs -- >> laura: like consumer confidence at an 18 year high? >> 25, 100 kids being traumatized, being separated, traumatized, being accused in court under oath of committing a crime, a lt of things that he has done that actually show he doesn't have a whole lot of good news to talk about. >> laura: jason, the fact that 41% of americans now say the country is going in the right direction, the last year of
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obama come at you know where that number was? 20 22 mid-twenties. the country sees things going the right way. i want corey to get on the list. it is true that when conservatives say bias, biased, biased, funeral, dorsey and sergey brin, all of these guys, they say it is just the way it is, this is the way the technology rolls. sometimes conservatives will get the short end of the stick and sometimes liberals will come too. everybody complains of a time, that is where we need to be. >> eric schmidt was a supporter of the clinton campaign and that is perfectly fine for them to be able to do that, no one is questioning that. >> laura: doesn't mean he's biased bo. >> dorsey has said that the company tends to be more left-leaning than conservative. that is the way he wants to run his company. but what we have at google specifically is a fire to another engineers and they said they did that because they were mistreating individuals who were conservatives there. that is what he was fired for. now he is suing google for his drawback. >> laura: harmeet dhillon's
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client. >> the reason is, you can run a company anyway you want to but it is such a monopoly. between google and facebook, it reaches 1.8 billion people on a daily basis, these are massive numbers. and i'm not in favor of government over zealous regulation but you can't have a company that is going after people based on the conservative thought and shadow banning them are banning them in an unfair manner and we have to look at this because it's a problem that's only going to grow. >> laura: nra spokeswoman dana loesch spoke about what happened to her on twitter. let's watch. >> we have to deal with situations where you you have crazy people running amok on twitter and twitter having inconsistent applications of terms of service. and that is what this comes down to. i'm simply asking for these -- people like jack dorsey and mark zuckerberg and these individuals who own these platforms may be rain and their employees biases and evenly and consistently apply and enforce terms of service. >> laura: the thing that got
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her really upset as the tweet that has since been deleted about, well, if dana loesch has to have her children murdered before she'll understand, i guess that is what needs to happen. the individual, whatever his name is, has not been permanently banned from twitter. i guess he was temporarily banned. that is the kind of stuff -- that is not political speech. that is -- that's terrifying actually. >> i agree. as somebody who comes on conservative media and gets death threats -- >> laura: and we love you coming on. i adore you. >> thank you. >> laura: may be even more than corey. >> those people sending me threats right now, i want you to know i'm not afraid of you on were not backing down. i want to tell you that i absolutely deplore that, i think she has an argument in terms of trying to get those people to be banned from those platforms. i think that twitter is a large universe and there are some things that twitter sometimes misses. but the idea that they are
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targeting conservatives and i think what corey says, while it may have some validity that this person has a claim, it has nothing to do with the algorithm in which google works. that is not what this is about. this is one guy feeling that he was discriminated against at work. >> laura, when you look at twitter, you look at what they did to candace owens, she took a tweet that was written originally by the op-ed writer of "the new york times" and she changed one word and that tweet, and all of a sudden, her account was suspended. not for doing anything other than literally changing one word. she changed the word from "white" to "black," it was against a conservative african-american woman who was literally reposting something that i change. the original post was never considered derogatory or exculpatory or anything else for that person. as soon as candace owens put it out, she immediately was notified by twitter that her account had been suspended. i don't think that's right. >> laura: do liberals complain about getting banned? >> i've never seen one get
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banned. >> laura: i always say, if the shoe was on the other foot -- i do this to myself, too. if the shoe were on the other foot, and it was accompany this big in this powerful, run by the koch brothers or some other conservative group of people, and the left felt like their views were not -- it's an interesting conversation. oh, this is just an algorithm. here the algorithm thing all the time. it doesn't seem to give me much comfort. close it out. >> i think that people on the left absolutely get banned from some of these -- >> laura: who? some of the most horrible hateful things about ivanka term. i didn't see many things banned. they are all the same person to me. >> i think there is the difference between saying something vulgar and saying something that is threatening. i think what was said about dana loesch, that was borderline threats and i think that she has every right to complain about that. i think what we have seen -- i'm
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telling you, as someone who gets a lot of threats, getting them right now, i think of that is despicable but i think that it needs to be applied on both sides and i think usually does. >> laura: great conversation, guys. immigration controversy that doesn't get enough attention. visa over stays in the hundreds of thousands. details on that crisis in just a moment and later, the jacksonville shooter this past weekend shared some telling traits with other violent colors. a psychotherapist is here to tell us what they are. stay there.
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♪ >> laura: okay, there might finally be a solution to one of the biggest problems plaguing u.s. immigration combo which is visa over stays. they don't talk about it enough. in 2017, approximately 700,000 travelers to the united states overstayed their visas. that according to homeland security. but congressman steve king is introducing new legislation that would require nonimmigrants to post bond before visiting the united states. so what does help to finally get illegal immigration, these visa issues under control? joining us now with reaction, tom homan, former actor direct air of i.c.e. come along with eleanor, immigration attorney. alan? >> this is a problem. not that big of a problem, -- >> laura: wait a second. 700,000 -- alan, i adore you. you know that.
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700,000 people is not a big problem? >> that is a reporting problem from the government. right now, the way that the government relates to people who leave through banned forces properly recorded, and sometimes in students change their statusy reported. i don't really trust the facts -- >> laura: you don't trust the numbers from homeland security plates because they have been other reports from robert warren, who used to work for the government and also works for the center for immigration studies, most of the studies saying this is an exaggeration, another way to push more restrictive policies that are not immigration. >> laura: you don't think there really is any problem with these over stays? >> i think the over stays as an issue but i don't think bonds are a response. money would not be an issue for them. >> laura: tom? >> first of all, i disagree with my friend. i think it is a huge problem. maybe a few years ago, i wouldn't trust the numbers. the recent methodology come about 90% accurate, talking about several hundred thousand dollars per year.
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bond is a good idea as long as it's high enough so it's a deterrent so they are not willing just to forfeit and stay illegally. also this legislation, criminalize those over overstayed ba visa. most of those who overstay abuse or come to the country and never leave it. those are just like illegal entry. if you criminalize it, that's another deterrence. >> laura: okay, five countries with over stay rates of over 30%. chad, djibouti, eritrea, liberia, and the solomon islands. so when folks from chatterley's of the countries come command, e they are not leaving. something has to be done. we know this is happening and yet it's like, stamp the visa, come on in and then they don't leave. i can't blame them for not leaving. no one's really hunting them down. >> this bond issue has been a law for decades, just trying to implement it, we've been asking them for years. i think equally, they need to be high enough where there will be more than what they could pay -- >> laura: how would it work?
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before they leave their country, their home country, they would post, let's say, $1,000, $5,000 -- what about allen's point of this is a clash issue and people that have no money, they will -- >> allen, this is a sovereign country, we have a right to decide who can come in and out of the country, we have a right to maintain a legal immigration system. i can tell you, there are hundreds and thousands every year, you are right, the population is not a priority, hasn't been a priority. when i was acting director, i made it a priority but we certainly don't have the resources, not when we are kicked out of jails, god walk the streets looking for criminals. by adding this bond requirements, make it a criminal act to overstay the visa, i think you would see a drastic change in oversight. >> laura: a lot of countries, allen, where you don't have to have a visa. they are called visa waiver countries. you have greece, hungary, and portugal have the highest over stays for countries where you don't need a visa at all. but we are categorizing, we
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don't with a high risk people are. greece, having a lot of problems, hungary, portugal, i guess people -- everyone wants to come to united states. but we have to be able to control this. didn't the 9/11 commission say we should do fingerprint entry and exit? and by remembering this correctly? but we don't double meant that. this is the 9/11 commission from a bipartisan group of experts who spent, what, years of starting this after 9/11? why don't we have this? >> i think we do have entry-exit systems there is not modernized yet -- >> laura: modernized? after 9/11? >> is the u.s. government and our systems are antiquated. remember reciprocity. if we start charging bonds to people that come here, bonds will be charged for u.s. citizens that go to those countries, and the students will be able to go to the country's amount, come us about as a limiting restriction. >> laura: if we are talking about losing a few backpackers in the summer, versus keeping our country and our integrity of our immigration secure and sound, i think we can lose of
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your backpackers. >> this has been an issue for years. addressing it it the same way we dress all of our other immigration problems, we modernize our immigration system. the problem is, if more people were able to stay here illegally, we wouldn't have the problem with over stays. things like ending gps, ending daca will only an -- >> laura: you really don't want to put any limits. you only want limits on people who can come to the country on visas, you really want to know limits, correct? >> it's not about no limits. it's about appropriate limits. if we are able to observe 700,000 people a year or whatever the numbers may be into our society and they are able to stay, working at places come here productively, then something says -- >> laura: we have a list of how many -- >> we are the most more welcoming country of the world. >> laura: they are committing crimes here. we are out of time. i had come how the media's fax s about gun violence while ignoring some things about the dangerous trends. that had.
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♪ >> it's worth taking another look at gun laws in florida. florida does not require a permit to buy rifles or handguns. it doesn't require firearms to be registered and it does not require gun owners to be licensed. florida does not require a permit to carry a rifle. it does require a permit to carry a handgun and if a gun is
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purchased in florida, there is a three day waiting period back by this does not apply if you tradg your old gun for a new gun. >> laura: those are some misty graphics he was using there. what an insightful report that would be if it wasn't totally wrong. the gun used in sunday's horrific jacksonville shooting was actually obtained in maryland and the shooter purchased it legally. we've seen this type of deflection from the antigun rights people time and again. it's starting to scare some other contributing factors in these mass shootings. mental illness, things like video games addiction, and things like antidepressant addiction. joining me now is carol lieberman. dr. lieberman, there is no study saying that if you are on antidepressants, there is necessarily a causal relationship to going out and shooting someone, but the list of the mass shooters and how
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many of them or taking antidepressants, just some of them, david katz, jacksonville shooter we just mentioned, eric harris, columbine, james holmes, aurora, colorado, adam lanza, sandy hook, nikolas cruz, all of them are on some ss rias drugs, antidepressants, what should we think? >> well it is not really the antidepressants fault. this is not a gun-control problem either. it's merely a video game control problem and access to good mental health treatments. with antidepressants, the problem is that instead of treating people who, if they need antidepressants, instead of seeing them every week for therapy, and monitoring their antidepressants, and photos and so on, and if they need that or something else, that isn't happening. the psychiatrists are giving people prescriptions and sending them away for months or two or
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three. that is the problem. is not the antidepressants themselves. i will tell you what the problem is. there is a pattern here with all of the school shooters. david katz is just the latest one. and that is, first of all, there is some kind of mental illness. david katz seems like he might be on the autism spectrum. >> laura: look at them. >> depression certainly. if you look at -- all you have to do is look at him. we will look at his eyes. speak of his high school yearbooks. >> laura: yes, something dead in their eyes, the eyes of the giveaway. >> absolutely. and david's high school yearbook, i don't know if you saw that, it's the same eyes, the same depressed eyes, and so he was born with some kind of predilection for some kind of mental illness but what really happened, and this is what happens in most of these families, broken families. now for david katz, his parents got divorced, when he was around 11. they went through a 10-year
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♪ >> laura: that many discussion we had with dr. lieberman is extremely important and we are e but we'll stay on this, we'll do a longer segment this week, next week, and a course on radio. tune in tomorrow.
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