first of five memorial tributes honoring the life and legacy of john mccain. a private ceremony held inside the rotunda of the arizona state capitol where mccain's body will lie in state today. it's an honor that only two other citizens of arizona have received in the past 40 years. this is a "outnumbered." i'm dagen mcdowell and here today, fox news analyst and host of "benson and hearth" marie harf. morgan ortega's, a host of the evening edit on the fox business network, a list of elizabeth macdonald, and joining us for the very first time on the couch, gregg jarrett, author of "the new york times" best seller, "the russia hoax: the illicit scheme to clear hillary clinton and frames on donald trump." use our "outnumbered. >> gregg: it's an honor to be outnumbered. what does a guy have to do to get on your show?

>> dagen: everyone needs a good lawyer and we have one on the sofa today. moving on to arizona, the body of the late senator john mccain will lie in state and the arizona state capitol rotunda today. it all begins with the formal private ceremony for family and invite guests and then the public will be allowed inside to pay their respects. the republican lawmaker known as the maverick served in the senate for more than three decades and is remembered by many as a war hero, and in the meantime tributes are pouring in from mccains friends and colleagues on capitol hill. senator lindsey graham is reflecting on his special relationship and friendship that the two is shared it, in an emotional farewell on the senate floor yesterday. >> he had a happy life. he had ten lives. he was involved in five aviation

accidents. if we sent john a bill for all the planes he crashed, we could never pay it off. he lived life to its fullest and he was often disappointed, but he was never deterred from getting back up and going at it again. love. not a word often associated with senator mccain. but it should be. because if you were loved by him, you knew it. if you were loved with all your faults, and i was lucky to have been loved by him. >> dagen: tracy is live outside of the arizona state capitol in phoenix for the memorial service is honoring senator mccain will be getting underway just a short time from now. >> senator graham had it right, john mccain lived a giant life

life. this is really the beginning this morning of a five day very fond farewell to john mccain. in many of the things that you will see today and tomorrow in the following days were orchestrated, and they were handed chosen by john mccain who began selecting and choosing his funeral participants four or five months ago, personally calling former presidents obama and george w. bush to speak on his behalf. the things you will see, john mccain did himself. the speakers, the ushers, the pallbearers. most of them are friends and colleagues, big business associates and many of them are adversaries, people that did not agree with john mccain and people that disagree with him on a lot of different things, and did not vote for him but did respect him. if you look behind me you can see the flags at the state capital are flying at half-staff for john mccain and the ceremony will get underway, we believe, in about 40 or 45 minutes. the honor guard and the military contingent is here and we expect

mccains cortège to arrive. about 45 minutes. they will leave them inside the capital along with his sons at jimmy and jack leading the procession. the entire time that john mccain's casket is in arizona, it will be handled by the arizona national guard and it will take care of it until it is put onto the plane tomorrow in route for dacey. d.c. once inside, there will be a huge contingency of first responders as well as other veterans, military veterans, and the casket will lie in state for about 24 hours. we will hear from the former senator of arizona, john kyle, governor doug ducey, the former congressman of arizona jim colby and the outgoing senator jeff flake who will all speak today. we should note the public viewing begins at around 2:00 today, but many people are

already gathering here. if they want to come and stand in line and pay their respects for john mccain. that public viewing could go on for hours and hours. >> dagen: trace, i know that senator mccain, being the son of a decorated four-star navy admiral, he traveled frequently throughout his childhood. but when he married his wife cindy in 1980, they chose arizona as their home base, where they wanted to raise their children. i know that cindy actually posted something to instagram yesterday about this. it was an old photo of the senator, and she talked about how much she truly loved the spirit and the beauty, and what would have been the reaction until the people are and even as his casket was moving from his home in quenneville, and leaving after his death.

>> that brings up a very funny story. when he first ran for office here in arizona he had only lived here for a few years and some people were accusing him in the early days. this was in the early 80's, of a carpetbagger. he said, i was a military brat. i lived in 25 or 30 different places and one of the longest places i ever lived was in that place in hanoi. that hushed of his detractors and he went on to win that case for congress and the senate. when you mention john mccain going around the state, it's imperative to remember that whether he was running for congress or senate, he would campus the state of arizona and that's why they love him and so much here. he would go to every corner. there are towns in this vast state that have 45 people or 90 people and john mccain would go. a lot of those people would come here to pay the respects. think about this, 2:00 in the afternoon, just after 9:00 local

time. we are talking about five hours from now when the public viewing starts and people are already gathering. it's 106 degrees here today in phoenix, there's very little shade, if any, around the capitol building. many of them will be there until ten or 11, and many say i didn't vote for the guy, i didn't agree with the politics but i loved him and i respected what he did for the state of arizona. john mccain was influential in bringing casino gambling here to arizona, which were native americans brought in billions of dollars. and many things that he did will be remembered. >> dagen: we will check back in with you later, trace gallagher in phoenix for us. let's bring it out to the couch. we've been doing this a long time, gregg jarrett, within covering events on tv. what do you make of this

tribute? this is not just for the people of arizona and anyone who necessarily voted for john mccain, this is for every american who honors his dedication to family country and service. >> gregg: there is so much to admire about john mccain. he led this exemplary life. which one wants to imitate. i was so touched by lindsey graham's tribute on the floor of the u.s. senate, whether he intended to or not to, he was paraphrasing the famous remarks of winston churchill, when churchill said, success is not final. failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts. and that was john mccain. i can't think of another person in my lifetime suffered and endured so many trials and tribulations, and yet continued to persevere and to try out. it is a testament to what a fine man he was in a -- and a loving husband and father. and i think people everywhere

whether they agree with him were not politically, you kind of love the guy. i always loved interviewing him because unlike most politicians he would actually answer my questions. >> yes he waited. most politicians sort of bob and weave and they do the whole muhammad ali rope-a-dope and evade the question. but john mccain wouldn't do that. >> i just want to say he would love that reference because he was a sports fan through and through and i think the last time that i saw senator mccain, he was here. what was he talking about in the green room, put boxing. when we talk about him, i think he would like the fact that we are all smiling and remembering that part of his personality, that incredible sense of humor. because i know that you knew him as well. >> and let me speak from a navy perspective. i'm an officer in the reserves

in the navy. the number of my fellow sailors who have texted this week who never knew him, never met him, just admired so much of what he did in the navy. and no idea what their political affiliation is, and it doesn't matter. but they respected his service so much. i have a great story, i guess it was three years ago. senator mccain cared very much about raising up the next nation of national security leaders and he invited me and lindsey graham to be part of the conference and secretary carey was speaking that year. we were all at dinner that night and i was the least important person by a mile, probably the youngest person in the delegation but he really believed in bringing up the next generation and mentoring us. i was sitting across from him and he was taking -- he was

doing shots throughout the night. i'm not much of a drinker and i thought, how am i going to keep up with him? but i can't let him out drinking. so senator ben sasse was sitting to my left and at one point during dinner, he started asking him about what happened to him in vietnam. and i have to say it was -- at first it was sort of awkward for me, i tensed up and thought, what does he want to talk about, it must've been very dramatic. and he very calmly for the next 20 minutes started telling us stories. very matter-of-fact. started talking about his service and i know that was the first time i met senator sasse. there were several of us at this table sitting in all as senator mccain told the stories. it wasn't with pride or embarrassment, it was just factually, this is what happened to him. he so loved his country and i'm just so lucky to have been with him. >> dagen: he's a class act, a true hero. and your point is well taken

about people showing up at the capital. i spoke with him too, is so down to earth. the whole family was. the family weddings are known to be a big blowout, fun affair. he exited with grace. his great point, never doubt the power of the american ideal, and considerable admiration from all walks of life on all sides of the political aisle. >> and today would have been his 82nd birthday. this was a man who was imprisoned and tortured it, and then spent decades of his life working first to return the remains of americans that was so they, and then normalizing relations with the country that tortured him. not as a gift to vietnam, but because he believed it was in america's national security, economic and moral interest. he knew that america's best days are ahead and we can't be trapped by our past, no matter how difficult it was. that effort, which he undertook

with secretary carey across the aisle and others, watching john mccain go back to vietnam, not being so bitter as all of us probably would be, right? or it would be so easy to be, and saying america can have a new relationship of the country that we were at war with not that long ago. and attributes coming and even from across vietnam this week. >> dagen: i think it will be an emotional few days for a lot of people, even people who never met the senator. vice president joe biden will be paying tribute to him in the service that we will watch tomorrow, before john mccain goes to the nation's capital to lie in state there, and then the funeral service saturday and being laid to rest on sunday in annapolis. but vice president biden shared in a lot of experiences and vice president biden lost his son, though, to the exact same brain cancer that killed john mccain.

so the mccain family and joe biden will continue to fight for research into that cancer and stand up for all victims of that deadly disease. fox news will have continuing coverage of the memorial for senator john mccain at the arizona state capitol. stay with us for that. plus, president trump tweeting that white house counsel don mcgann will be leaving his position in the fall. he had been extensively interviewed by the mueller team. more action from the couch, straight ahead. ♪

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>> ao fox news alert. the president announcing don mcgann's upcoming departure tweeting, white house counsel don mcgann will be leaving his position in the fall shortly after that the confirmation hopefully of judge brett kavanaugh to the united states supreme court. i have worked with him for a long time and truly appreciate his service. chuck grassley responded on twitter saying, i hope it's not true that mcgann is leaving the white house counsel, i can't let that happen. he gave hours of interviews and what the white house said was an effort to be transparent. meantime after months of negotiations, president trump's

legal team has no agreement in place on an interview. legal scholar alan dershowitz is subpoenaing the president. >> we are getting ready for what could be a difficult legal battle. the tactic of the trump team is to make the mueller team and offer they can't accept, so that in the end there will be no sit down and the trump team can say, look. we made them an offer, it's their fault that they didn't accept it. i suspect that mueller is onto this tactic and is now looking forward to filing some kind of legal action compelling the president to appear in front of a grand jury. >> you have written prolifically and spoken on the subject. if dershowitz is right, what this is coming down to is a subpoena by muller to have the president respond to an interview. do they have to respond to that

of a subpoena or will it be fought out in the courts? >> gregg: you can make a motion to quash which i think the professors is right, that's a strategy. but i'm not sure that mueller has the appetite for a legal fight in the federal courts because i think mueller, he is a smart man, he is a hyperpartisan but he's a smart man. then he realizes that in the end in front of the u.s. supreme court he would likely lose which would only diminish his ever increasingly diminishing credibility. mueller is the guy who sabotaged his own investigation first by refusing to recuse himself in the face of mandatory disqualifying conflicts of interest. then assembling a team of partisans. and so, every poll you see, his numbers go down and down, and the longer this goes the less trusting confidence that americans have in the ability of

mueller to be fair, neutral and impartial. >> marie, i know you want to respond to that but from a political perspective is there anyone on his team that which is in hindsight but he had sat down for an interview? >> marie: the latest fox poll has mueller's favorability going up, it started taking up in the wake of some of these revelations that we've seen in last few weeks. so i think the jury is still out, not to use that pun, on bob mueller. >> you just did [laughs] >> marie: bigger question is, can bob mueller write a report and finishes investigation without interviewing the person at the center of it, donald trump? politically, donald trump keep saying, i didn't do anything wrong, i have nothing to hide. i know everyone is worried and you may talk about this, perjury and the president will say something that's not entirely truthful and gets him in a bind

but i have always said, morgan, if we want the truth and the whole truth and nothing but that out of this investigation that we have spent months and a lot of money on, there are many questions only donald trump himself can answer. >> morgan: i have not talked about perjury, but i've talked about the perjury trap. which i've seen him play out, let's get martha stewart on the phone, who went to prison for five months for lying to investigators. she wasn't even under oath, related to a stock sale. again, a process crime. the fbi can lie to you. if you lie to the fbi, if you tell a favorite, they will file charges against you and you will never know what the fbi knows. >> gregg: i feel -- look at what mueller did to general flynn. they told the fbi agents, they admitted that and yet they prosecuted him for lying. >> he signed a plea agreement.

>> gregg: yes under pressure and threats of prosecuting his son. >> dagen: the reason you can make the argument that president trump wouldn't need to sit down with the bob mueller, you look at don mcgann. he waived executive privilege. >> for over 30 hours. >> dagen: and there have been 1.4 million documents produced. and actually, dozens of white house staffers who have been made available for interviews. >> if there is a editorial in "the wall street journal" today. >> so maybe the president doesn't need to speak to mueller. what the president going and plead the fifth? doubt it. will he be subpoenaed for a grand jury? will mueller make that choice? you're probably right, he will not. >> i think he might. this investigation has raised so many questions about what donald trump noon, and his story had changed repeatedly, publicly, over many, many

months. i think that they are questions they market people answers to. >> gregg: as a lawyer i look at what legal basis mueller has question the president. you can't question the president's authority and firing someone like james comey. on what legal basis to you have to question the president about this noncrime called collusion? >> to your point, does mueller have all the information he needs from the other interviews, and what would he get from speaking to president trump? we know that reagan, george bush, and clinton spoke and these types of proceedings. >> gregg: voluntarily. >> so it's not out of the realm of possibility. >> dagen: there is an editorial in "the wall street journal" today and it is lengthy, i will do my level best to summarize it. it's written by david david win and they both served in the justice department under presidents reagan and

george h.w. bush. they argue that mueller can't subpoena trump. they argue that because mr. trump has already cooperated so extensively with the investigation, the document production and making these white house white house staffers available, there is actually a precedent from the clinton administration but it was a different case. it was related to former agricultural secretary mike sp. they go to great lengths, but they say in the editorial which is really interesting, we are applying this case. mueller cannot show any need for mr. trump's testimony that outweighs the president's interest. >> if you can make get all of e information from other sources -- >> but you can't. donald trump, did you know about the meeting in trump tower, did anyone speak to you directly, why did you fire jeff sessions?

-- i meant comey, not jeff sessions, freudian slip. but do we want to know why he fired people and whether that was obstruction of justice? no one else can speak to him and those answers. do we want all the information or not as americans? >> i think the president seen what argue though from a political perspective, but he has answered all of that to the american people numerous times. i understand it hasn't been under oath. but -- >> the story changed. >> you are the lawyer on the panel, from a political perspective, if the president does not respond to the subpoena, saying there is one, or doesn't respond to an interview at all come up with us continue to drag out not just through the midterms, i'm talking about through 2020 at this point. how long can a protracted court battle last? >> gregg: if you could try to expedite it through the u.s. supreme court and i imagine the supreme court would take it fairly quickly. they have done so in the past

when there have been serious constitutional issues between the legislative and the executive branch, and here, it would be within the executive branch. >> and quickly you have don mcgann leaving, it's affecting the office of the presidency. >> i want to correct something, i said the editorial was today but it was last week. >> either way, don mcgann sat down for over 30 hours and thousands of documents. this is unprecedented. there were several investigations, not to this degree of course, for the obama white house. i think it's pretty impressive with the white house has done. more news coming up. big primaries last night including the important swing state of florida, my home state. so what are the key takeaways? and were last night's results the latest sign that president trump can help our republican candidates to victory? and we will bring you coverage of the memorial service honoring senator john mccain. he will lie in state at the

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news alert, a new reaction to last week's primary election report in arizona, florida and oklahoma and what it all could mean for the november midterm. president trump tweeted today, "big election win last night, the republican party will make america great again." it is morphing into, keep america great. the president endorsing martha mcsally who won the arizona g.o.p. senate primary and she will now be facing kyrsten synema, both vying to become the state's first female senator. meanwhile in florida, republicans pointing to a higher voter turnout. rick scott will face off against democratic incumbent bill nelson. and in the florida governor's race, ron desantis will go up against bernie sanders' in fact

andrew gillam after a stunning upset of the democratic establishment candidate last night. both candidates are speaking out today. >> donald trump and ron desantis are both scraping from the bottom of the barrel. i actually believe that florida and its rich diversity are going to be looking for a governor that will bring us together, not divide us. that will vote for free on the primary and give to the broader florida electorate and try to sell that message. i don't take it will sell, i don't think that dog will hunt in florida and that's why i think we will end up being successful. >> the florida governor's race will be fascinating. and i'm coming to you on this first, in part, it's a battle of the bases. on the democratic side, and it's a generational slide on the democratic side. my younger nonestablishment candidate one. >> he's 39. he's the same age. >> on talking on the democratic

side. >> okay. >> andrew gillam is the next generation of democratic leaders and he's up against ron desantis, they are the same age and they really appeal to their own basis. this will be fascinating. >> the shows in stark relief what the american people have in front of them, what are the choices. we just had a great gdp read today, 4% plus growth. mr. gillam is backed by bernie sanders, treating the constitution like an build your own salad buffet. and there is the same kind of spending that andrew gillam likes where we had obama era economists trying to explain away -- they often talk about those obscure fortune cookies. this is a stark choice that the american people face. what are the policy choices that work?

>> i think what would be more interesting as donald trump has had success in his endorsement of the republican primary. his victory was a turnaround of like 20 points in the polls and beating someone you work for i think, mr. putnam down there in florida. but will donald trump support help in a general election, in a very purple state, divided state like florida. as you know very well. >> as you guys know i'm a very proud at native floridians, i think we go back five generations or something like that. it's interesting because it's not just about trump and desantis, gillam was backed very heavily by bernie sanders. >> he was but i think that the bernie sanders of weight went a long way. for me i think that's the first trump-bernie match up the fourth 2,020. and what's so fascinating i was about florida is its five states in one. so if you want to test to gauge what will happen in trump versus

sanders, get into florida because it's such a diverse population. i'm looking forward to this. one thing that i thought was most interesting, it's all the talk about the blue wave and all that sort of thing. it's fascinating to me in an off election year, while the democrat turnout was strong republicans cast more votes on by a very healthy margin in florida. at the last check that i saw, republicans were about 39% i think and that was the actual percentage. but republicans had some of the highest midterm turnout that they've ever had in florida. so i think it goes to show that president trump at least in a case like florida is still motivating his base to come out in election year. >> a lot of people have talked about how this is the year of the woman and in arizona we will have the first female senator, the republican or the democrat, one of them will win. this will save up to be a very interesting election in state.

democrats think they can pick the seat up in arizona. >> it will be a woman one way or the other, we are cheering that gender on. but let's talk about the women that gillum said -- the daughter of a former governor and senator of the state, so where were the women in that? they didn't vote based on -- maybe they did vote based on how their husbands and boyfriends think, -- i'm making fun of hillary clinton. but gillum in florida, this is the trump party on the republican side versus the democratic party that is moving left, because if you look at some of the things that gillum has talked about abolishing immigrations and customs of fort enforcement, banning assault weapons and impeaching president trump. a lot of democrats have been pushing away from the narrative going, we don't think that. we are way more

middle-of-the-road. the guy is running against ron desantis town in florida, he is not far left. >> gregg: i think morgan is right, i was struck by the fact that it was a larger republican turnout than democrats, and also, ron desantis really received twice as many votes as gillum data. that tells me something, that donald trump's endorsement really means a lot in a state like florida. and in a state like florida that could be the deciding factor. i would give the thumbs up to desantis in a race there that could otherwise be tight. >> we will keep watching all of this. 70 days until the midterm. >> i wanted to add one quick thing, david pointed this out

earlier, in florida, it's a very diverse voting page. >> yes, many democrats living there. we are also awaiting the arrival of senator john mccain's motorcade at the arizona state capitol where his body will lie in state through the night. more details on the emotional ceremony kicking off five days of tributes, i had to. tuned. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones.

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>> dagen: the motorcade carrying senator john mccain's body is set to arrive at the state capital moments from now where he will live at lie in state today. the ceremony is kicking off five days of memorial tributes in phoenix and then on to washington, where friends, family and the american people will get the opportunity to honor the late senator and war hero. it's clear that throughout his life, mccain earned the

respect of men and women on both sides of the political aisle. let's take a look back at some of the moments that made that possible. >> i'm the luckiest guy on earth. i have served america's cause, the cause of our security and security of our friends, the cause of freedom and equal justice, all of my adult life. i was, knowingly or not, along for the ride, as america made the future better than the past. and i have enjoyed it, every single day of it. the good ones and the not so good ones. i have been inspired by the service of better patriots than me. >> i can't trust obama. i have read about him and he is not -- he's an arab. >> no ma'am. he is a decent family man and

citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with him on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. our reputations, our character are the only things we leave behind when we depart this eart earth. unjust acts that malign the name of a decent and honorable person is not only wrong, it is contrary to everything we hold dear as americans. >> dagen: bret baier is the fox news' chief political anchor, anchor of "special report." it's a testament to how senator john mccain touched all of our lives in some way, shape or form, that he is being honored in the way that we will see in the coming days. >> it starts in arizona, and remember for arizonans, this is a figure for whom many of them has been a political figure for all their lives. he first became a congressman in 1980s and then a senator

taking over this seat for goldwater. as you look at their live in the arizona state capitol, he was a real figure there in arizona. so it's fitting that he will lie in state there in the capitol rotunda. only three other people have done that over the past 40 years in arizona. a state senator in 2006, marilyn jarrett, and also olympic gold medalist, jesse owens, a tucson resident. senator mccain will be the third. obviously you will hear from the governor, doug ducey, you will hear from former senator john kyle and also a benediction from the current senator, jeff flake. >> dagen: moving on, the people of arizona will get to -- and we are watching the motorcade move right now as it approaches the capitol building there in phoenix. but then, he will lie in state in the nation's capital later this week. a large service will be held

with speakers, past presidents, on saturday and i know you will cover that. but again, this is a real tribute to senator mccain as a public servant, but as a war hero as well. >> dagen: that's right. as you look live, this is something that you don't see too often for figures in american politics. only a few get this kind of treatment. and senator john mccain is one not only for his time in the u.s. military but his time in service upon the capitol hill. the service of the national cathedral will include eulogies from former president barack obama and former president george w. bush, both of course political opponents who beat him in a general election and the primary election for the nominations. this is a rare event, and for the next few days you will hear a lot of remembrances, as you

just heard yesterday from senator lindsey graham, an emotional speech on the senate floor. it's been one of those emotions touch everyone, and it's a testament -- he was diagnosed with glioblastoma, brain cancer, a year ago in july. so a little more than a year ago. many people on this earth don't get a chance to say goodbye and plan their own funerals the way that senator john mccain did. there were a lot of people who went to see him out in arizona, and talk with him, as he was staying out there and going through treatment. has been made of who will speak at the national cathedral, president trump will not be in attendance. but i can come up to face death with such courage, and still such a life, is a testament to who he was. >> and all that time since the

diagnosis, the arizona national guard there will be carrying the casket in. he was down to the detail, we are told, for all of these ceremonies. who is going to speak, what was going to be done. the ceremony tomorrow in phoenix will be at the baptist church there, and you will hear from vice president joe biden, who senator mccain chose to speak. he chose the music, "amazing grace." he wanted to hear frank sinatra does "my way" which will be played in the service tomorrow. and he was prepared for this moment. and to hear his friends talk about it, he was ready. >> this is morgan ortega's. morgan ortagus. he clearly believed in a very robust presence abroad and advocated for more involvement in iraq, syria and afghanistan, which is a different temperament

than i think this current president has taken and even one that president barack obama took. where do you think his foreign policy legacy stands and who will keep that alive? >> one thing is nato is considering naming its headquarters building after john mccain, the new headquarters for nato. that tells you something about his international impact. if you look at all of the statements coming out from world leaders who have dealt with in one way or another, senator mccain on foreign policy, they are all glowing. i do think we are in a different stage now, and there is a battle as you know between an aggressive foreign policy stance, like john mccain had on the number of fronts, and one that is more, let the folks in those regions do the work and fight the battles. and i think those will be fought over elections to come.

>> dagen: we talk about the political indications of john mccain's death, but let's talk about the personal as we wait for the hearse to arrive at the capitol building. >> that's governer ducey walking down to get the casket with his wife. the one they will be escorted by jack and jimmy mccain along with the rest of his family. meghan mccain, a former cohost of the show. bridget and his other children, seven in total. two adopted sons, who we adopted in his first marriage. a daughter, sidney. and i expect the entire family to be there including everyone's spouses. on a personal note, john mccain share this cancer fight with the world. and that does a lot to remove the stigma of battling cancer. particularly, one that is deadly. the prognosis when you are

diagnosed with glioblastoma is grim. but they fought, and the whole family talked about it and that goes a long way to providing strength in families around the globe that are facing the same fight. >> definitely. and i think people look at how he faced his final days with respect and admiration. it is pretty remarkable that he died nine years to the day, on the same day, that senator ted kennedy died from a similar illness, brain cancer. and, you know, both of those figures -- i think you look back and do you see how they handled the days until their passing. if you are looking here at governer ducey who, just last night one a g.o.p. primary. he is expected to sail to a general election, and anything can happen obviously but he has a high approval rating. he speaks and spoke very highly of senator mccain and is working

with senator mccain as a senior senator dealing with the governor on the ground. >> liz mcdonald here. what's interesting is the list of pallbearers for senator senator mccain's coffin. joe biden, warren beatty, michael bloom bloomberg, it looks like former senator gary hart and pennsylvania governor tom ridge. they just shows that politics are not germane to friendships here. >> if anyone proved that, it was john mccain. many people didn't know he was friends with warren beatty until this list of pallbearers. and he was. he had an interesting friendship and relationship, we are told. he obviously didn't care about labels as far as a party label. if you were in his inner circle, you were in his inner circle and you heard it lindsey graham talking about that yesterday on the senate floor. i think what is going to come

out are stories of friendships and outreach that you will not have heard over the next few days. senator john mccain could be pretty prickly at times, but he also could be extremely warm and definitely funny. he had a vague sense of humor f humor. >> we will get a lot of laughs i feel, which is how he would want the people to remember him honestly, authentically and with a lot of laughter and humor and smiles. >> gregg: what strikes me -- it's gregg jarrett. what a remarkable and marvelous life this man had to. and yet, there were so many different highs and lows. at the loews would have shattered most people. p.o.w., agonizing torture over the course of five years. he emerges from that resilient.

he had another huge setback politically in the lincoln savings and loan scandal, and it deeply wounded him personally because he knew he wasn't honest and honorable man, and yet he got caught up in something in which congress later determined he had exercised poor judgment, but he was cleared of any real wrongdoing. and yet, this is a guy that had such perseverance and determination that he didn't let those things getting down, and he achieved some of the great highs in life. in his very fine farewell letter, he said, i wouldn't trade my life or anything. i am possessed of the same human frailties that afflict us all. but he continued on, and that is so much to be admired. >> he often said he wasn't perfect, and he lives an

imperfect of life, but one in which he tried and strived to be as good as he could be. i think he learned a lot, specifically from the savings-and-loan case you mentioned, about graft, about influence, about fighting back special interests. and he kind of made his moniker the straight talk express, in a later presidential run. and almost really one that 2,000 presidential nomination fight, losing to george w. bush in south carolina. i kind of ended it. the motorcade is starting to pull up to the capital here, you will see the governor grading the family, and of the casket. >> brett, let's remember the family today because they had it over a year to say goodbye to

their husband and their father. and yet it's an emotional, and clearly will be an emotional day for the family. this is a really close family, make and getting married last year, the home in corn bill was a place of many a party, and people have been able to share in the time that the family has spent there quite frankly to social media. this has kept the entire country and all the people in arizona and the united states in touch with what was going on even when we didn't see the senator in washington. >> they are tremendously close. megan's letter to her father released the other day was quite something. i have heard her -- and i'm sure you have, talk personally about what her relationship was and is, and i'm sure that that is going to be really tough. cindy mccain also putting out a heartfelt statement.

but you wonder how this all will say it because it's pretty overwhelming if you think about it. all of this pomp and circumstance. there was something about john mccain that was very humble and down to earth, and even though he planned everything here, you wonder what john mccain could be thinking about with the spectacle. >> dagen: the hearse and the funeral procession are arriving in front of the capitol building. i want to go to trace gallagher, who is on the scene in phoenix. >> the procession is just now arriving here. i took about 30 or 35 minutes from the funeral home to the state capital, which is maybe ten or 12 miles to get here. so they are running a little bit behind schedule. you can see the hearse is arriving now and you can see doug ducey and his wife, the

first lady of arizona, are now poised to greet cindy mccain and her family here. we are kind of focusing on the big picture here, which is the state capital. but if you look at those 13 miles left cortez went from the funeral home to the state capital, you would see streets lined with people and the flags they came to pay their respects and they did in droves. the helicopters are showing the respect for john mccain. to give you an example of how powerful this day is, for many people here in arizona. the way this will work is, you will have cindy mccain and her family greeted by the governor and first lady. she is leaving and will be escorted by the military. we should note that every single branch of the military is represented here. we have the honor guard of all the branches and john mccain

was sure that's was what he wanted. he handpicked many of these details. the mccain family will then join mrs. mccain and go inside the state capital, and of course, the honor guard and the national guard of arizona will handle the casket from beginning to end, while john mccain's casket is in arizona. it will be handled exclusively by the arizona national guard as per d.c. the green between the first family of arizona, the john mccain family is part of the cortege. when they go inside, the casket will be placed inside the state rotunda and inside the rotunda, they will bring in numerous first responders, as well a