a "new york times" best seller. as always, i want to thank you for being with us, andmy laura ingraham is next. hey, laura. >> laura: hey, judge jeanine. how are you? fantastic show as always. love the dan bongino segment. >> judge jeanine: we love dan bongino. he's a fighter wherever you need one. where are you tonight? >> laura: we are in chicago having a lot of fun, causing ar little trouble, but the good trouble. thank you so much, great show. welcome to "the ingraham angle," i am laura ingraham live from chicago.je we'll explain why just a little bit. the president just wrapping up a raucous rally in evansville. we'll break down his remarks throughout the hour so stick with those. -- so stick with us.

also tonight, are congressional republicans about to go to war with big tech? house majority leader kevin mccarthy is going to join us later in the hour to break it all down. the looming fight over bias in silicon valley. plus, the reason we are here: violence continues to rock thisn amazing american city and violets political leaders might be asleep at the switch, we camt to get answers. fox's own gianno caldwell went to some of the most dangerous neighborhoods anywhere in this country to talk to gang bangers and ex-cons. some exclusive video you do not want to miss. but first, as we just mentioned, the president is taking all comers in evansville and if you are just getting caught up, here is what you may have missed. >> the failing "new york times," which by the way, if i wasn't here, they would be out of business. "the washington post," the "new york times." cnn. [ crowd booing ]

so a writer for "the new york times" that a pretends she knows what she's talking about, hasn't got a clue, and i'm telling you, the enthusiasm was the same, the place was packed, she made the statement that president trumpe was disappointed to see some empty chairs. yeah, they were going to the bathroom maybe. and listen -- and he was so disappointed at the tone in the room. nbc, which is probably worse than cnn. [boos] but the word as they are firing the head of nbc. what a great thing to do. how smart. who knows. with these people, you never know. by the way, take a look, todd, everybody, governor, look at how many cameras you have back there.

it's just like the academy awards. look at it. they can't get enough!h! when they start screaming fake news, see those red lights go for a little while. excuse me, we have technical difficulties. then they go back. look at that. [cheers and applause]en you know, in the studio, they hear they go, "he's about ready to go, look." ladies and gentlemen, we have technical difficulties, we need republicans in congress. today's democratic party is held hostage by left-wing haters, angry mobs, deep state radicals, establishment cronies, and their fake news allies. you can have the biggest story about hillary clinton -- i meant

look at what she's getting away with. but let's see if she gets away with it. let's see. [boos]okng all i can say is, our justice department and our fbi, at the top of it -- because inside, they have incredible people, but our justice department, and our fbi have to start doing their job and doing it right and doing it now. because people are angry. people are angry. what's happening is a disgrace. and at some point, i wanted to stay out, but at some point, if it doesn't straighten out properly, i want them to do their job, i will get involved, and i will get in there if i have to.op

disgraceful. [cheers and applause] and the whole world is watchingp and the whole world gets it and the whole world understands exactly what is going on. the democrats, they called themselves the resistance. that is what they are good at. resisting and obstructing. they are obstructionists. every day, they are resisting the will of the american people and trying to undermine thees verdict of our democracy,n delivered so strongly in 2016 like never before delivered. the most remarkable thing about the modern democratic party is how truly undemocratic they really have become. right? the so-called resistance is mad

because their ideas have been rejected by the american people. and we are really -- we are getting rid of those bad ideas one by one so fast, and it is driving them crazy.. you have to understand, i have a better education than they do from a much better school. the elites, they are the elitesi they are the elites. i went to better schools, i went to better everything. by the way -- by the way -- areb you ready for this? i am president and they are not! [cheers and applause] >> laura: joining us now with reaction, katrina pierson, of course, senior advisor to the 2020 trump campaign. that's right. already talking about 2020. florida's republicanpa attorney general pam bondi an attorney and democratic strategist jan ronis, great to see all of you tonight. pam, let's start with you, pam. indiana -- i think this is the

president's third trip, he's heading to charlotte, north carolina, for the next rally. he is stacked for these rallies, he is going to hit every close race, senate race, he'll do some house races, some people thought he wasn't going to be this active on the campaign trail, but, boy, were they wrong. >> they sure were, laura.th look at president trump, look at his energy. he loves doing this, he loves going out and supporting these candidates, and he knows how important congress is in helping him pass the agenda that he needs to pass, and he cares, and he is out there. i mean, this man must never, ever sleep.ce i mean, the president is working tirelessly to help all of these races. and he loves it. he loves it. >> laura: katrina, i'm here in chicago and had a chance to talk to a lot of folks earlier today. believe it or not, even in liberal chicago, where i think it is, like, 83%, or 87% of the city voted democrat for hillary

in 2016, he has a lot of fans here. h but i think maybe two or three people -- in a room where i got to talk to about eight people -- said we love what the president is doing on the economy but why does he have to harp on cnn, or these other networks, just focus on your agenda, don't worry about these other side issues because no one really cares. no one's watching those networks. they are giving them too much publicity. >> i don't think anyone can deny that donald trump isn't a fighter. he is his number one defender. we had a lot of experience about that on the first campaign. but it's really important for him to continue to highlight and identify how the fake news is doing an injustice to this country and as for tonight, laura, there is nothing quite like, or as fun as a trump rally. even in this hostile political environment. the president has deep

-- these opportunities to not just place a stamp of approval on candidates that are going to help him keep america great, but it's the opportunity to bypass those networks and speak directly to the people that talk about those accomplishments and i have to tell you that this president has accomplished so much in his first two years that we actually had to create a website, promiseskept.com, just to keep up with him. i was not one of those people that expected him to just sit around and wait for the candidates to get going. >> laura: the thing that is going to happen tomorrow, and you can chime in here, tomorrow, it looks like they are going officially, they needed to by tomorrow, that canada is going to join in with the united states and mexico, replacing the old nafta, a huge deal. clinton, obama, bush, hillary, they all promised -- hillary if she was elected -- that they were going to change nafta. no one thought president trump p was going to be able to do it. just two days ago, all the brilliant ones on cable news were saying, oh, canada is not

going to join. this is never going to get through. on the issues of trade and thego economy, what is the democrats' response to trampling on these issue? >> the democratic response ought to be that really come of thec nafta renegotiations are just nafta with a new name. quite frankly, the differences -- >> laura: no, they are not. you cannot come on this show. this is actually something you know a lot about. i don't mean to interrupt me right off the bat. but if you come on this show, and you start talking smack about something you frankly don't know what you're talking about -- god bless you -- this is a completely redo of thely nafta deal. do you understand what the rules of origin are all about? do you get the percentage ofre american components? do you get that? then you wouldn't have said what you just said. >> for example, the percentage of american components went up from 65 to 75. that's relatively a very small amount. on the wage increases don't apply to mexico, which would still allow mexico to

manufacture these cars at far lower prices than in the united states. so it isn't -- you think the manufacturers will return from mexico when they don't have to be $16 an hour? they will stay in mexico. >> laura: you have intellectual property protections, pam bondi, you have digital protections, this was a hard bargain that was driven by bob lighthizer, jared kushner, the whole team at the usgr, the foreign minister, we finally got trudeau and the gang in canada on board, the idea that this is not a significant deal -- if itt wasn't significant, then whyhy didn't obama do something?t then why didn't george w. bush do anything with it? >> because they couldn't do anything with it. >> laura: never got anything done, jan. you know it and i know it.

i don't want to be cranky tonight but you cannot come onon this show and make claims that are completely, patently false! this is a total redo of nafta! you don't know what you'reis talking about! i think it is 700 pages long! don't come on the show. you're ridiculous! pam bondi can be your turn. >> the president and jared and the staff, they have been working on this nonstop, they were working on it all day today with canada. with all the noise, everything going on, everything they are trying to accuse the president of, in the middle of all that, he is staying laser-focused and he is helping the american people. he is bringing jobs in our country, 3.8 unemployment,ic everything he said, but what he did with mexico and now canada is unprecedented. and he is a businessman, he is successful, and that is why our country is thriving because of president trump! >> laura: by the way, newsen fornd jan and everyone else watching, the europeans tonight announced -- another thing that the experts that would never happen -- that they are going to eliminate, i believe, most

tariffs on automobiles. why do you think they're doing that? because they see what trump just did with canada and with mexico on nafta. so the barriers to effective and fair trade are systematically being dismantled because it was foreign trade policy and that is what democrats need to be in favor of. i want to play for you, katrina, something that chuck todd said today about a bombshell tomorrow. let's watch. >> here's what i've learnedch about bob mueller and that is a -- and that is not a single person that has worked with him, known him, would say, if he didn't have anything, he would've ended this is comicng investigation if there was no collusion. >> we can tell that until he d tells us. >> i think it was more thanor anything, he keeps quiet between labor day and election day. i am not missing work tomorrow. i wouldn't miss work tomorrow.w. >> laura: we are not missing work tomorrow, either, but that was one of the more ridiculous things i've heard. [laughs] katrina -- and a rabbit will come out of his hat.

>> laura, this is hypervigilance on behalf of the left. these are the kinds of things that we've been hearing since the president since the famous b ride down the escalator and people are pretty much immune to it. there was no collusion. no one is going to be listening to the talking heads on tv, particularly when their 401(k)s are going out. this trade deal was very good, and it looks like it even for the stock market out of correction territory, so again, laura, the people at home, they are smarter than a lot of the media think. >> laura: again, the democrats have to actually come to the table with solutions, not just identity politics, get trump and impeach him. >> how can they come up with a solution? they don't even know who they are? or the democrats, liberals, c socialists? there is a crisis going on the democratic party and president trump is out there -- that's what it is. it's a split personality. trump derangement syndrome just compounds the effect. >> laura, he's out there talking to the american people, that

they understand, saying we are not going to get ripped off by other countries. >> laura: i got to give jan a final thought real quick. >> he is going back to the same old rhetoric he did when he first got elected, trying to scare the american people, talking about hillary getting away of criminal activities, frightening everybody butng undocumented aliens. the same old -- the art of politics is getting elected and reelected, and i'll give him credit because he is an expert at that but it's at the expense of the truth. it's at the expense of -- >> 401(k), jan. >> laura: 4.2% gdp. >> millions of people in this country -- >> laura: out of time. we are here in chicago. a new wave of violence striking the city. when we come back, we are going to talk to one of the best reporters on the ground, and you don't want to miss that. stay there. to one of the best reporters on the ground, and you don't want to miss that. stay

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>> laura: yet another wave of violence rocking the city of chicago tonight. just yesterday, eight people were shot and wounded in the period of eight hours. with each day that goes by, chicago city officials led by rahm emanuel seem to be more and more powerless to stop it. this week, gianno caldwell, fox news political analyst and chicago native, went out to speak with members of the worst hit communities and find out

what is driving the bloodshed.ut watch. >> in this neighborhood, everybody want to be better than the next person. everybody want to rock the better jeans. you know what you got on, they want to be the one on top. so these boys looking at it, like, hey, let me do that. that's why there's a lot of violence. i believe, you get some of these boys into a job, put money in l their pockets so they can survive, take care of what they need to take care of, maybeei it'll stop some of this stuff. >> laura: joining us now with more is gianno caldwell.l. gianno, great to see you tonight. you know, it was interesting what nini just said there, she said everyone wants to be on top, have about the other guy has are better, i don't know if she was talking about house or car or she was or what. but -- >> everything. >> laura: she said if they had

a job maybe it would be better. get the job, you have to have the skills, you have to have the educational background, a parent or role model who helps with the education and guidance. the problem is, a lot of these kids don't have any of that. the gangs walk in. >> yeah, laura, i think what i really saw here this week, doing these interviews with a number of the high-ranking gang members throughout the city of chicago, is there is a deficit and personal responsibility. a lot of parents have left their homes who believe that their parents maybe were too harsh on them as they were growing up, they allowed their kids to run free, and as a result, we see the bloodshed. yale did a study in 2015, whichi said for every 100,000 residents in the city of chicago, there is, on average, one white person shot, 28 hispanics shot, and a whopping 113 african-americans s shot. in the city of 2.7 million people. this is beyond the pale of what we should see in any american city. i know, and i thank you for yout coverage on this, because you have done it from your heart,

this has not been political for you. you see the same things that i see, a lot of the african-american residents see in chicago, which is no american city should be like this. there should be no person in an american city that have to live through this level of fear. what we are seeing, especially speaking to the gang bangers in the city of chicago, a lot of those folks feel that this was a life that they were preconditioned for. this isn't something that they necessarily chose, as one told me come but this is the life that chose him. so this is, i mean, just unfortunate. >> laura: gianno, the need for investment, or business to come in, as we have talked about before, and how do you solve this problem? until the streets are safe, we need more detectives, more police, more personal responsibility, more role models, it is hard to get the business to come in, even with tax incentives that rahm emanuel, as far as i know, hasn't been willing to talk about.

even with tax incentives, if you go in there in some englewood, some of these other areas,e worried about your safety, your employees' safety, that is -- that is going to be a heavy lift. >> it will be. you know, i was really happy to hear from an individual who runs a program or an organization called ex-cons for community and social change. his name is tyrone mohammed. he is actually an ex-con.e he went to jail i believe for about 30 years for murder. he started a program when he got out of jail and he goes and gets more ex-cons and they go back into those communities in whichy they robbed and stole from them. the communities of the murdered end, which led to bloodshed. this is something that i thought which was particularly encouraging, they are talking to the youth, looking to put those individuals in jobs, and i was really happy to hear that because of their stories we normally don't hear, those are stories --

>> laura: gianno, we actually have that part of your discussion with him. i think we are going to play it now. let's watch. >> most guys involved with my organization have served 20 years or more in prison. we are men who recognize that we've made a mistake. we are not sitting around waiting on something for a white person, the politicians, the legislation, to change ouron condition. we know that we helped perpetrate some of the violence in our community and we learned a long time ago while we was in prison, that we would have to change it ourselves. >> laura: gianno, final thoughts real quick. >> we need more for the city of chicago. there needs to be an expansion of personal responsibility because no one can rely on the government to solve all of its problems. that includes a violence in chicago. they are part of the solution but they are not the solution in totality. >> laura: you need more police, you need more cops on the ground, you need more detectives so they actuallyly solve some of these crimes, and that is where the mayor and city officials kick in. gianno, thank you very much.

>> there has been a failure of leadership on the levelad of the city and as well of the state, there's been a failure om leadership in chicago. >> laura: we've been trying to get rahm emanuel on this show and other aldermen and not much luck there. so we'll keep trying. gianno, thank you so much. now with a discussion on this, we will talk to horace cooper o, project 21, and of course, leo terrel is with us, radio talk show host. both of you, great to see you. leo, let's start with you. i don't think this is an issue that should be political. it should be solved. this should be solved both frome within the community, with police, safe leaders, andso business can partner but if it is not going to come from within, and a real move from within the community, i don't know how we are going to solve this. but i can tell from talking toe

folks today, you needr more police on the ground. if you don't have more police on the ground, you will never get any of the good stuff to happen. leo? >> laura, i can tell from your sincerity that you are very serious about this. but it's just not police, respectfully. when i just saw the president on fox talking about african-american unemployment rate is down, what about in the south and west sides of chicago? there is poverty in chicago youth, from 18 to 24. gianno talked about the unemployment rate in chicago. you got to have jobs they are and what i submit to you, laura, there are no jobs there.t it's just not on the local level. we have a republican governor and the blame goes all the way around. but let's focus on the absence of jobs. i'll support your argument about police but please acknowledge that make america great again does not apply to african-american youth

between the ages of 18 and 24 beyond the south and west side of chicago.ht >> laura: leo, i think you are. right about that. i mean, i think you're right about that. the jobs aren't there. trump didn't create chicago. so, i mean, you are a really good civil rights attorney, a democrat, and i get that, but to say -- >> can i point out one thing? >> laura: to imply that trump i caused chicago is absurd, and it will not stand. horace? i mean, it starts before rahm emanuel. rahm emanuel has been there since 2011. murder rates, ridiculous high. more than 2,000 people have been murdered in chicago since he became mayor. unacceptable.so absolutely unacceptable. >> jobs will never come to chicago as long as it's beirut on lake michigan. here's the truth. the truth is, it requires two basic techniques. you must increase the fear of apprehension on those who would

mug, rob, or rape grandma, the people who will not let luct go to school, and they create an environment so frank the father can't get a job. you absolutely must start with creating apprehension, excuse me, a risk of apprehension, for those individuals. once that risk is real, who do not change, who will not conform, they must be removed. that means five, seven, or ten-year sentences. when that happens, we know it works, it worked in richmond, it worked in new york city, itt worked in louisiana, in new orleans, it will work i anywhere. when that happens, then we can talk about jobs and personalha responsibility. >> can i just say a little game called "jeopardy"? how about this.ty what you got to lose? give me a chance!

okay, who made that statement in 2016? the democrats -- give me awh chance. remember that? remember that guy? >> we have set five records for low unemployment and just the first --e e >> what about chicago? we are talking about chicago, horace! >> laura: guys, stop, stop, stop! you know that democrats have been running chicago for i s believe seven decades? do you realize that? >> we have a republican governor, laura! >> laura: we are talking about the city of chicago. you and leo are very smart, your know just like i do, the city is run by the city council and the mayor's office, it does not run by bruce rauner. okay? they do legislation and allocation of funds, but the funds and local taxes of chicago run the police and they assist in running the schools. okay? this is 70 years of democratic leadership. 70!

>> here's the goodfellas response. local government don't create jobs. you know, laura, the job creation starts -- >> laura: why are we on this? >> there is no jobs! >> laura: do you think that rahm emanuel, since 2011, has done a good job for the city of chicago? i can tell you, most democrats we talked to today in the streets, they want him gone. they don't want him to return.ts they wanted new -- >> i'm not here to defend rahm emanuel. i'm just saying, you do acknowledge that jobs are critical. horace says, lock everybody up. he doesn't have a job plan. >> you will not create a thriving job market as long as grandma is afraid to even go and get her prescriptions filled. >> talking points. >> lucy can't go to school -- >> this is not a talking point. it's a reality. chicago profiles all of these

victims that we are ignoring. we don't have jets that fly in from arizona to washington, d.c., -- >> talking point. >> for all of the people that are dying. >> laura: you know what is not a talking point? you keep saying "talking point."" you know it is not a talking point? we talk to a woman whose nephew's remains were burned and found in a 55-gallon drum. you know what his crime was? walking home. don't tell me it's a talking point.5- that's someone's life, and it happens way too often, predominantly african-american and it's got stop! the cauldron of death in chicago, not to put an end to it.. it is ridiculous and republicans and democrats have got to come together, and the people of the city, i think, want to do something about it but when you have failed leadership, whether it's republicans or democrats, it's got to be changed and swept

out of office. >> i agree with you, laura.nd >> laura: great segment. we are out of time. >> we are done, horace. >> laura: we will be covering this for months and months and months. joining us now with more, excuse me, we will take a break. when we come back, we are going to talk about what andrew cuomo said -- believe it or not -- about i.c.e. you thought the i.c.e. protestsa were bad before. you might have protests on the other side after you hear what he said. don't go away. id when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today.

>> democrats want to abolish i.c.e. where did this come from? by the way, did you have any idea what i.c.e. stands for? these are people that go into a nest of ms-13. they call nest. that is what it is. it's a nest. these are evil people in there. i can't say "animals" anymore because nancy pelosi got very angry when i called them animals.

i called them animals. she went crazy. i can't do it. >> laura: nancy pelosi gets a lot of boos, doesn't she? that was president trump at indiana earlier tonight. that situation, those remarks, could well not stand in greater contrast of the rhetoric we are hearing from democrats. andrew cuomo last night at his debate with cynthia nixon. >> new york state is the state that said, we will not cooperate with i.c.e. they were a bunch of thugs. he politicized i.c.e. they are a bunch of thugs. we said, we will sue them. >> laura: joining us now the reaction is the president of the national border patrol union art del cueto and immigratione attorney esther valdes. good to see you. i'm going to have art take the first swing at the cuomo comments. i do not understand why the democrats keep going back to the well of maligning the great menn

and women of the immigration customs enforcement but they must think it is going to work somewhere and maybe in new york. >> they are doing it because they don't have anything else to say.y. when you lose the argument, you got to bring up race, that is what these people have been doing. it's amazing to hear someone say something like that, and then call the i.c.e. people thugs. you are saying you are not going to agree with law enforcement, but they are the ones that are e thugs? it sounds like you are the thug. every time i hear these guys go back and forth, i can't help but wonder that they are competing in some kind of, "here, hold my beer, let's see how stupid i can sound today" contest. it's amazing. >> laura: esther, tom homan, former actor and director of i.c.e., had his own reaction ton what cuomo said last night. let's watch. >> but he is saying, hisis actions, are disgusting. to call i.c.e. agents thugs, think about it. these are men and women who aren

fathers and mothers and brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, that chose to strap kevlar to a them, protect communities. he calls them thugs. actually, i.c.e. arrest thugs, ms-13 members, gang members, drug traffickers. >> laura: esther, i.c.e. arrest thugs and the democratsug are calling i.c.e. thugs. your reaction? >> it is notable that governor cuomo is not a border state governor. otherwise he would have firsthand knowledge of what i.c.e. officers actually do. they are the frontline defenders and here in san diego they are the first line of defense to disrupt drug trafficking rings,n child molestation rings, and i invite governor cuomo to come down here and see what i.c.e. agents do. by and large, interact with them as an immigration attorney at least once a week learning about

the detention facilities. they are some of our finest, bravest, law enforcement agents that we have. >> laura: i want to remind everyone who the senators are who are in favor of abolishing i.c.e. and this is just a list. i'm sure it will grow. this is where we are right now. senator kirsten gillibrand, okay, new york, and running for president, 2020, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, vermont, he'll be running in 2020, mark pocan in wisconsin, nobody can even recognize him on the street, p pramila jayapal from washington state, nydia velazquez, new york goes on, and that is just where we are right now. of course, congressional candidates, alexandria cortez, randy bryce, so forth. art, i don't know why, again, democrats think that the men and women who keep us safe are breaking up a child sex trafficking rings, human smuggling rings, of course

narcotics operations funded by the cartels. i don't get it. how is that going to appeal, even to the inner city folks, who want a safe environment. i'm presuming they want safer streets, safer situations for their families. >> they should. the thing is, they try to make this division, and then they turn it around or they make it about race. listen, even when i've come on your show, i see some of the comments that some of these individual say about myself. >> laura: lovely. >> just being hispanic. i came to this country, my parents came to this country legally. there is a legal way to do it. people can't distinguish between border patrol agents, i.c.e. agents, the immigration officers at our ports of entry, they can't distinguish the difference between a legal immigrant and illegal immigrants. it is just -- i don't know what their thought processes but they try to divide as much asas possible so they try to --

that's what it comes due. he comes down to division and race. the reality is, i said it so many times, illegal is not a a race. separating families. who was to blame? the families themselves. american citizen commits the crime, what happens? you get separated. and you go through the court system. what is happening here is these people, they are such great parents that they are turning over their children to drug smugglers, they are turning them over to people smugglers, theyhe are abandoning them in the desert to. >> laura: but it's our fault. i.c.e.'s defaults.s. guys, thank you so much. charges of anti-conservative bias are roiling the big tech companies. kevin mccarthy has something to say about it. don't miss it. up next. ies. kevin mccarthy has something to say about it. don't miss it. don't miss it. uphey, what are you guys doing here? we're voya. we stay with you to and through retirement. so you'll still be here to help me make smart choices? well, with your finances that is. we had nothing to do with that tie. voya. helping you to and through retirement.

>> my administration is also standing up for the free speech rights of all americans. social media giants. i've made it clear that we, as a country, cannot tolerate political censorship, blacklisting, and rigged search results. we cannot large corporations silence conservative voices. and again. it can go the other way, too, some day. we are not going to let them control what we can and cannot

see, read, and learn from. >> laura: you heard president trump. he wants social media companies to be held accountable for alleged anti-conservative bias. next week, twitter ceo jack dorsey will have his feet held to the fire when he testifies on capitol hill. one of the individuals leading the charge on all of this is house majority leader kevin mccarthy, who joins us now. congressman, great to see you.ho this is what i have been told, congressman, time and time again by my liberal friends. okay? this is an algorithm. this has nothing to do with politics. the algorithm was in place before trump, and it's going to be in place after trump. there is no political bias, it all relates to what articles aru popular versus articles that are not as popular. what is your reaction to that? >> that is just not true. social media today is the modern-day town hall. 67% of adults get their news from somewhere on social media.

let's just play that out. do you see prager university that puts out conservative videos, but one happened to be about as real with alan dershowitz, one happened to be about baseball with george will. you know what? facebook wouldn't show them because they said youtube rated them similar to pornography. then we found out it was a couple of facebook employees. for instance, i follow your tweets. you put something out about sweden last week in regards to conservatives gaming based upon their immigration policy. that algorithm, written by a human, said that was sensitive. so certain people on twitter could not see that. >> laura: [laughs] the swedish election is sensitive. okay. >> that is just an algorithm? if you google the californias] republican party right before the primary, they said oure. ideology was nazism, and they blamed that on wikipedia. but after we have raised this

issue -- i've had many conversations with the president about it, we have to stop this bias, look at what happened in facebook just this week.k. their own employees, those conservatives who have been intimidated based upon their own personal philosophy put a group together and rose up because they feel that has been going on as well. you look at what they did to palmer lockey and others. palmer is a brilliant kid, who invented oculus, who facebook actually purchased but when they found out he had given money, his own personal money based upon who he wanted to see become president, they wanted to push him out. this is what is happening to social media that they think is just algorithms. >> laura: congressman, let's get to solutions. a lot of pals are working in antitrust and expert on antitrust issues, some kind of difficult antitrust theories floating out there. but there is another interesting idea beyond antitrust, which is, to consider facebook and twitter

and so forth like a public utility, and thus, they could be regulated like a public utility. "vanity fair" had a headline about steve bannon wants to nationalize facebook and google data, cofounder of cambridge analytic says big data should be placed in a public trust. that is going to your point that this really is the town square, and even though it is a privater company, it dominates advertising, talking about facebook especially, so we have to treat it differently.rt it is that something congress is going to look at with the executive branch? >> i think congress is going to look at everything from the perspective of how powerful they have become. i have spoken to jack dorsey throughout the last couple of months because the beginning of august, i sent a letter requesting for him to come to energy in, and i want to give him credit, he is showing up september 5th, and he and i

philosophically disagree but we do agree on one thing. we agree in the first amendment. but we also believe in transparency and accountability. he is coming forward.t i think the other companies' ceos need to go forward asas well. because the stories that they are telling and blaming other people, it's just an algorithm, is proving not to be true. >> laura: the google ceo said, no, i understand but they are happy to work with china on setting up the censorship tools that the communists in china want instituted in google. they don't have any problem with that. i have to get your thoughts onon today's funeral ceremony for john mccain, impassioned speeches, we had vice president biden speak, many others, your thoughts? >> well, i was there. and i thought the very best speaker was the very first speaker.er he was the first chief of staff to then congressman

john mccain. he told the story that john mccain told when he was a p.o.w. about a guard coming in, it's christmas time, kind of loosening up the ropes that had his arms time behind his back, and right before he was going off, he tied those reps back. -- those ropes back. he never saw the guard before but he saw him in the yard, the guard walked up but with his foot in the gravel, he makes ah cross, saying about faith. when you think of john mccain,ve of what he went through, and every time i watched him put a jacket on, the difficulty, i had great respect for this man. i work with her many times. i had different opinions but i thought that summed it up with a much more personal story and i b thought it was the stronger story of the day. it was a beautiful celebration of his life. >> laura: i would agree with you. an amazing tribute. i'm going to ignore some of the not so thinly veiled hits on president trump by some of the people who participated but i

agree with you. just that image of senator mccain and may he rest in peace. congressman mccarthy, thank you so much for joining us tonight. we are going to be watching that hearing with dorsey next week.re the justice department, by the way, is firing a major shot at harvard university and affirmative-action. details ahead. you do not want to miss this segment with michelle malkin. don't go away. o not want to miss this segment with michelle ma

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>> laura: harvard in the hot seat.♪ what happens when harvard university capped the number of asian students who could be admitted? well, that didn't go down so well. michelle malkin joining us and of course from crt and cathy areu, the publisher of "catalina magazine." also we have news from betsy devos at the education department involving title ix and sexual harassment on college campuses. let's start with this harvard story. michelle, you have been all over this issue of affirmative action for years. and now, we are at the point where we are penalizing asian students and thankfully the u.s. department of justice stepped in on behalf of fairness and merit on behalf of these asian students. tell us what you know. >> this blatant racial

discrimination in the name of so-called social justice has punished high achieving asian american students for a long time. it's been obvious since the lati 1980s and 1990s, when i was in college. and finally, we have the trump justice departmenty siding with equality of opportunity as opposed to equality of outcome. what i love most about what is happening, laura, is harvard is squirming under the microscope and a bright, glaring sunlight of discovery. for the longest time, they had kept their racially conscioushe and race unneutral policies under wraps and out is being -- and now is being exposed. what is happening is, you have a lot of liberal asian-americans who are finally, finally having second thoughts about the social engineering that has punished them at the expense of equality of opportunity. and look, it makes absolutely no

sense to punish the children of legal immigrants from all over asia as some sort of social justice recompense to black students. the reparations foundation of affirmative action has been totally blown up. >> laura: let's go to cathy. short segment here. cathy, if it's just analysis on admissions, the study from the center for equal opportunity shows that asian-americans would have 43% of the admissions, hispanics, 2%, african-americans, on merit, according to the center for equal opportunity, just 1%. >> what is merit? is merit meaning s.a.t.s, is it meaning test scores? we are trying to say, this against affirmative-action. what's happening is that harvard actually has a system where

their school population is diverse.g so the trump administration is trying to take away diversity at our institutions like harvard. harvard is fighting for diversity. so that our student body can look like our demographics in our country. there is nothing wrong with that. >> laura: let's move on really quickly.y. no time here.>> betsy devos and title ix. michelle, now it looks like men or anyone accused of sexual harassment will have a few more rights after uva and of course some of the other cases like duke and so forth. >> you think that civil libertarians would be cheering the fact that we have administration that is restoring the rights of the accused and restoring due process that has been sabotaged particularly under the obama administration by radicals who don't think that accused men should have the t right to confront and cross-examine their accusers, that men who are accused should have legal representation, that men who are accused should bee allowed to have access to exculpatory evidence, and that is what betsy devos is restoring.

>> laura: cathy, i owe you one because we're out of time. when we come back, final thoughts from chicago. busy news night. stay there. , final thoughts from chicago. busy news night.

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>> laura: tomorrow night, we'll >> tomorrow night we will be back here in chicago following up on our reporting on the other media sources out there.

we told you about cnn and what they were playing with their source, lanny davis. tomorrow, what in dc reportedly did to put the kibosh on the harvey weinstein report by ronan ferro. fox news is number 2 in the study on media reliability and trustworthiness after the bbc. up next, shannon bream and the fox news at night team have a phenomenal show on tap. shannon: welcome to fox news at night. we begin with a fox news alert. donald trump leading another raucous rally in indiana for