"special report" tonight. >> please join me tonight at 7:00 for "the story" ." "outnumbered" is coming up next. our friend meghan mccain was once they are. >> that's right. we are just coming off of the ceremony at the n that wrapped up just moments ago as washington pauses to remember the legacy of senator john mccain. in one of the rarest of american traditions reserved for the nation's greatest leaders, this is "outnumbered." i'm dagen mcdowell. here today is lisa boothe, jessica tarlov, rachel campos duffy, and joining us on the couch for the first time today, chris wilson, republican pollster and the ceo of wpa intelligence. great of you to join us today as we remember a great hero in this country and cover a whole bunch

more news coming out of washington. thank you for being here. >> chris and i used to work together so, are you nervous? >> chris: a little bit. you've been giving me a hard time all morning, not sure when it stops. [laughter] >> dagen: house speaker paul ryan saying our nation bows and grief during a ceremony at the capitol building rotunda where the senator john mccain is lying in state until tomorrow's funeral. vice president mike pence among those lawmakers in attendance. remembering mccain as a proud military man whose kindness and loyalty to his country were unparalleled. >> there was a time on a trip through iraq after another 18 hour day when i was literally falling asleep, john, who was more than 20 years older than me, walked up, put his hand on my shoulder and said, mike, we

have a few more meetings tonight. but why don't you turn in. you look like you could use some rest. thanks, john. >> dagen: while that is happening on the nation's capital, let's go to detroit and at the funeral service for the queen of soul, aretha franklin. let's listen to faye tale. ♪ -- faith hill. ♪ >> my mind my.

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first and last time up. you know your name and you know what you are owned or to do. no need someone to get up calling you, talking about you. get up and do what you got to do. if you don't, i found out something about the bishop working with him today. he can walk faster than most men run. if you are coming up at the wrong time, he will get up and sit you down, because he is not just the bishop, he is the op addicted pope. please come where your name appears on the program. >> dagen: a celebration of two american icons on this day. that is the funeral of aretha franklin going on in detroit at the greater great's temple in

detroit, michigan. the queen of soul. the family decided just yesterday to open up the ceremony. the greater grace temple holds about 4,000 people in the family of aretha franklin who died on august 16 of pancreatic cancer decided to open it up to about a thousand individuals from the public. it's going to be one incredible list of speakers and singers. stevie wonder among the singers, president bill clinton. aretha franklin sang at both inaugurations of bill clinton. the reverend jesse jackson. that remembrance will be going on for hours in detroit. at the same time, the other story is the continuing celebration of the life of senator john mccain. his body will lie in state in the capital rotunda today. a funeral or memorial service

plan for the washington cathedral tomorrow. this is the third day of remembrance of sandra memorials for senator john mccain. let's go to mike emanuel down in washington with more on the remembrances and the service that we just offered senator john mccain. >> it was an all-american vip type service. we don't have royalty in this country but that's about as close as you get when we have men and women in dress uniform from our armed services escorting the casket of john mccain up the east stops of the capital and into the capital. there was light rain falling and ultimately a downpour, and then when it got to the speeches the senate majority leader pay tribute to senator john mccain's passion for the issues. >> he treated every issue with the intensity that people's business deserved. he fought tooth and nail for his

vision of the common good, depending on the issue, you knew john would either be your sanchez ally staunchest ally or your most stubborn opponent. >> so you had a range of dignitaries there, current members of congress, military and dress uniform as senator mccain was the chairman of the senate armed services committee. he was proud to serve on that committee for many years. he also offered this tribute to senator mccain. >> it was never feigned disagreement, that man didn't feign anything. he relished the fight. he showed that in the arena, the back and forth, that's for the cause gets bigger. that's where the triumph is

sweeter. >> he had at well-publicized clashes with president trump and so governor mike pence offered his own special tribute to senator mccain. >> on behalf of a grateful nation, we will ever remember that john mccain served his country, and john mccain served his country honorably. >> that was a tribute from the vips. and now ordinary everyday americans are filing into the united states capital rotunda able to pay their respects to john mccain. some saying they wanted to do that because of his many, many years of service to this great country and they were also able to say some prayers for senator mccain as they send off a truly american hero. >> dagen: mike emanuel outside of the capital. great to see you, mike. thanks for that reporting. chris, i want to go to you here.

incredible remembrances and honor as the nation remembers john mccain not only for who he was, we are hearing about his humor and his irascible nature, but also grieving alongside his family. >> it's remarkable to see his family there. you think back to all of what john mccain gave this country and, you should let mike pence had to say to add anything to that. he wanted the country to remember that he served with honor and there is no doubt that throughout his time in service, he did so. it's also been nice to see so many people who are on the other side of him from politics and those who disagree with him in campaigns come together to be safe. to give honor to that iconic figure and the fact that he did serve with honor. >> i think we saw that yesterday with joe biden, when he spoke and what he said. he said my name is joe biden,

i'm a democrat. and i loved john mccain. i thought i was such a beautiful and simple statement and it reflects a friendship that he had on both sides of the aisle, as you pointed out, chris. that's what today is about. we've seen people like paul ryan speak and senator mitch mcconnell as well as mike pence all remembering senator mccain and his life. he spent 35 years in congress and if you spend that kind of time in washington, d.c., and capitol hill, you get to know a lot of people. that's really what today is about. >> if someone asked me, they had a professional connection and a personal one with the vice president's son dying from the same brain cancer, glioblastoma, that took john mccain's life. but such a coming together, and a warmth. do we change it? does our political discourse change at all? >> it's interesting that you bring up friendship, people say

all politics is local but it's really relational. john mccain came from an era and i'm the spouse of a member of congress. it's hard to build those relationships when you don't live in the city and your families don't connect that way. this is a real throwback to a time when members of congress lived in the city, families knew each other and they interacted in a very different way than the interact right now. if you build friendships, you build trust. if you have trustee work across the aisle to have those bipartisan bills and policies that all of us along for right now in this era where there is a lot of division. >> i think that's a great point and i've noticed in everything that has been said about senator mccain, it comes back to his faith in the american ideal and the principles in which we were founded upon and i think that so critical if we were going to build better bipartisan relationships that more people return to why it is they got into public service. or why it is they love living in

america or what it is that makes us great. and that's where you might find that commonality come up with your neighbor that might be a trump supporter. i loved what joe biden said there and it was a decades long relationship, and the personal nests, i think tomorrow hearing from former presidents obama and george w. bush will be something monumental for the country and obviously, it was a little scandalous to hear that he had wanted president obama to speak there, but i think you will see more of the connection to the american ideal and american exceptionalism, whatever that might mean to everybody. it's really heartwarming. >> dagen: and his devout patriotism. we watched had seven children and of course bret baier reference to this, that meghan mccain set forth a good while on this very sofa. and we grieve along with them. we know how hard it must be,

losing a parent and having to appear in public. suffering from such grief. but i don't think i'm out of line by saying, i hope that our love for them and this country's love for them really lifts them up. it's just this rising tide of warmth and love and prayers and blessings i think that have gone out to that entire family. >> and you bring up such a great point about what unites us, is we are americans. so much now it's about diversity and we are all american. i think that john mccain's life and service as a reminder that we are all americans and there's been a lot of emphasis on everyone taking that example, coming together and seeing they can work across the aisle. i think there is a lot of us as a country to take from this moment and, from the people that were invited to the ceremony. >> absolutely. we have a couple days more of celebrations honoring the life

and legacy of senator john mccain. as we showed you just moments ago, a funeral underway for the queen of soul, aretha franklin. some other musical guests attending and performing. we are awaiting remarks from former president bill clinton and you can see him there live, coming to you to detroit. aretha franklin spoke at both of bill clinton's inaugural celebrations and, from jimmy carter to president clinton, even president bush and president barack obama. we will have more about how they are honoring and celebrating aretha franklin's life from detroit, a live report is straight ahead. ♪ flintstones! meet the flintstones. ♪

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fans, and everyone has turned out. we have been here since yesterday watching the props go in to this amazing ceremony that has been planned and is expected to last for several hours. at first we heard five hours and then we heard as long as seven hours. they are all lined up here in front of the church to celebrate and honor the life and legacy of aretha franklin who has not only provided so many people with the soundtrack to their lives but also has a given them inspiration and strength. so many people have been saying that here in detroit that her songs and her booming voice, the lyrics it gave the strengths to go on in the tough times that they have experienced in their life. this is beyond the passing of a pop star or a legend, but it's something that fans in all walks of life have connected with his powerful performer and they are paying back their respects here

today. you mentioned of the dignitarie dignitaries, president bill clinton and his wife former secretary of state hillary clinton, motown legend smokey robinson and all of them have long history and friendshi friendship. this was originally billed to be an invitation only, and while we were here, the church organizers got a call from aretha franklin's family members saying they decided that they wanted to open this up to 1,000 members of the public saying, she's not just the queen of soul, she was also a person of the people. today service is being called a home going for franklin who as you mentioned has called detroit home most of her life and her hometown has shown up in big numbers, not just today, but this church holds over 4,000 people. we also saw people come to celebrate her and go to the

public viewing that took place earlier this week. franklin low lying in repose and an open gold plated casket complete with wardrobe changes between venues this week, dressed in all ready for the first viewing, powder blue for the second and her final outfit today is a gold sparkle gown and of course high heels. franklin's background and caulked gospel music and the church led her to sing at many funerals including that of martin luther king jr. and also several inaugurations and today that honor will be returned. 19 performers, you guys have been talking about this long list and it really is incredible. stevie wonder, faith hill, jennifer hudson and arianna grande are expected to hit the stage at any moment. there is a long line of pink cadillacs also, that's been the highlight of the morning watching that show up. and over 100 pink cadillacs lining 7-mile road in front of the church, this was an idea from the bishop and his wife who

said, when we have police officers funerals here we always have the police vehicles lined up in front of the church, why not put a call out and get as many pink cadillacs as we can hear to this temple to line up and give her this special tribute and respect. i also want to mention, we are just hearing this now, all the way across the pond, aretha franklin was just honored at london's buckingham palace. according to the ap her hit song respect played by the welsh guard band during the popular changing of the guards. i heard the tourists were taken back and are enjoying every moment of it. today is about honoring aretha franklin not just hearing her hometown of detroit but all around the world. >> also you are seeing governor rick snyder speak at her funeral. he is of course the governor of michigan. i know that you are a big music fan, she is the queen of soul. she was a first woman inducted

into the rock 'n' roll hall of fame, can you tell us a little bit more as we celebrate her life, about the impact that she has had on music in this country? >> it's beyond of the gospel music, and as i mentioned, people always say, she has provided the soundtrack to the their lives. it's not just the music that she played it, the gospel, the blues, and the r and b, you talk to anybody just about in the world and they can talk to you about a song that touched their lives, especially respect. the song that really turned the corner for so many people and she has such a long catalog and such a long history. you look back at her life and how she started with her father, her bishop that was a minister that brought so much music not only into her life but the lives of her sister and her family she learned to play at a very young

age. and she sang in front of a choir and her father immediately knew right away that she had something very special that needed to be shared not just with the congregation but with the world. and that she did. she commanded this presence and she still commands it today. her music will live on for decades and the people who are -- we've been talking about it here and detroit, people who are very young now who will enjoy this music for years to come and will learn about her through today six historic event and her catalog and her life. >> dagen: laura, when anyone closes their eyes and they just think aretha franklin, we can all hear this exceptional remarkable really end up voice of this powerhouse. her most famous songs, respect and natural woman, natural woman

written by carol king, and then "think" which she wrote with her husband, these were anthems for women's rights. she had such a powerful impact on our culture in the last more than five decades. >> absolutely. otis redding wrote the song "respect." she took the song and made her own own and now we have people paying their respects. here's area on a grown ariana . ♪

♪ 'cause you make me feel ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel like ♪ a natural woman ♪ oh, baby, what you've done to me ♪ ♪ you make me feel so good inside ♪ ♪ and i just want to be, close to you ♪ ♪ you make me feel so alive ♪ you make me feel

♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel like ♪ a natural woman ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ ♪ [applause] >> dagen: that was ariana

grande performing. it's being held at the greater grades cathedral because it holds 4,000 people, and the family of aretha franklin decided to invite the public last night. there will be many great performances, musical and speech is coming up by well-known individuals. jennifer hudson will be singing, stevie wonder will be performing, among many other grades, also we expect and maybe an hour to hear from president bill clinton himself. before president clinton, the reverend jesse jackson will be speaking, remembering the life of aretha franklin and how she touched all of our lives. this is it "outnumbered." we will be right back.

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>> dagen: we are watching for the the funeral service for the queen of soul at the greater grades detroit temple, thousands of people in attendance. you can see here now, that is a reverend al sharpton speaking at the service. there are many more speakers to, and hours to celebrate this woman's great life, not enough time in any one day to celebrate the queen of soul's life. but you can see behind the reverent sharpton president bill clinton will be stepping up to the microphone in a short while. we will hear from the reverend jesse jackson. for me attorney general eric holder will be there but also musical performances from dennis jennifer hudson, chaka kohn, ane

great stevie wonder will be singing. we will take you back there liv live. but we want to move onto this fox news alert. president trump poignantly calling out the justice department during a rally in indiana last night. the president advising the doj and the fbi to "start doing their job, or he will get involved." he doubles down on criticism of the special counsel investigation and his own attorney general. last night at a rally for the republican senate as senate candidate in indiana, the president is stepping up calls for the justice department to start looking into the agency's actions during the 2016 campaign. the president is saying there are "incredible people at the department" but reiterating that he believes some actions at the top were troubling. speak to our justice department and our fbi have to start doing

their job and doing it right and doing it now. people are angry, people are angry. what's happening is a disgrace. and at some point, i wanted to stay out, but at some point if it doesn't straighten out properly, i want them to do their job. i will get involved and i will get in there if i have to. it's been one in the meantime, the president reportedly telling bloomberg yesterday that he intends to keep jeff sessions on the job through the midterms, even though he reportedly blasted sessions for failing to rein in the special counsel probe. all this comes as we are learning more about embattled department of justice official bruce ohr and his involvement in spreading the unverified anti-trump dossier funded by the dnc and hillary hillary clinton campaign. two sources telling fox news that bruce ohr kept his then

colleague andrew weissmann in the loop as far back as 2016. weissman is now a top attorney in the special counsel probe. chris, what do you make of this? will we ever get to the bottom of what was going on during the 2016 campaign? >> chris: those are two different questions. regarding the doj, the key thing to remember is the president is the chief executive of the united states, that's on the constitution. the doj is an executive agency. so either it will be an exercise of the doj and headed in the wrong direction, he has the power and the duty as chief executive to do something about that and i think that's what he saying he has the right to do and is considering doing. it's kind of amazing that liberals in congress have all of a sudden decided the doj is some magic and special agency that must be protected at all costs and they must be able to do their own thing because today it suits her politics, but really it's no different than department of transportation, department of defense or any other executive agency.

the president is the chief executive and he has the right and responsibility to get involved when he determines us time to get involved. >> and chris, you are looking at polls, what toll has the investigation -- mueller investigation had on president trump and on republicans looking ahead to midterms? >> chris: when you look at a list of issues that people care about, the last numbers i saw from a national survey -- because it doesn't turn up. gallup had it as 2% mentioned as their top concern. we were talking earlier in a different senate elections, i have yet to see a situation in which the mueller probe or the investigation ongoing is going to have an impact on that. in fact, quite the contrary. when i see president trump go into a state like he has in indiana, montana and west virginia, he has an impact in terms of helping a republican candidate like i've never seen in politics before. obama didn't have that, bush

didn't have it and clinton didn't have it. so it isn't really having an effect on 2018 politics other than creating further trivialization of the policy. >> what it says to me is, the americans have an innate sense of fairness, if they see there's something fishy here, that it's weird, that police state tactics were used on a sitting administration, the obama administration. spying, and faking fisa. >> that's not what happened. >> one at a time. >> there was an informant placed into the trump campaign. by the way, when dianne feinstein had a chinese spy working on her -- they worked with her, they got it out -- >> dagen: here's the issue that rachel is touching on, we don't really know what was going on during the 2016 campaign.

we have still yet to get to the bottom of who know knew what, . how much does the fbi rely on christopher steele who had it out for president trump. we know that from what bruce ohr wrote in his notes. bruce ohr is that doj official that talk to people behind closed doors this week. rachel is saying every american has a right to know if justice was corrupted. >> and bob mueller will tell you when he's done with his investigation. to your point about pulling, if you look at the abc washington poll that's out today, it was absolutely horrible for president trump personally and what he's done about the mueller probe. 63% support for the mueller probe, 66% said he shouldn't pardon manafort. and for you to say there was a spy placed in there, there are republicans on record that are saying it was not a spy like marco rubio. trey gowdy is happy with how this probe has been conducted. >> dagen: we need to point

something out. we don't know, and it seems like bob mueller and his team are not looking at how the fisa warrant was gotten on carter page, but we also know that the probes by the republicans in the house, if the democrats take the house they will surely shut them down and we deserve answers about what was going on and what bruce ohr told that committee, or the members of that committee earlier this week. according to kimberley strassel at "the wall street journal," bruce ohr told the committee about mr. steele's leanings and motives. he informed the bureau that his own wife was working for fusion and bruce ohr is that he delivered this information to the fbi before the first application for the fis warrant on carter page. moving on, confirmation hearings next week for a supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. that's a some senate republicans are prepping kavanaugh for what

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and i'm going to love you forever. [applause] you said, let's go to church? let me just say this, and this is on behalf of me and my sisters. ms. franklin has just been a jewel to us. the world is watching, many of you are from all over the world, but i want to hear from motown tonight. let's salute the queen tonight. detroit, can we salute the

queen ? so many memories of ms. frankli ms. franklin, and we will never forget the day we performed on the grammys with her. she was so cordial to us. she said, you will all my girl. now karen will not talk, and it's okay. it's okay. but she loved karen and i will say let's continue to keep the queen in our hearts. twinkie wrote a song and said, is my living in vain, as my praying in vain, is my fasting in vain. am i wasting my time, can the clock be really wind, no of

course not, it's not all in vain. ♪ ♪ am i living in vain ♪ am i giving in vain ♪ is my pain in vain ♪ is my fasting in vain ♪ am i wasting my time ♪ can the clock be rewind ♪ have i let my light shine

♪ no, god no, of course not, it's not all in vain ♪ >> we are hearing some beautiful nods to the queen of soul aretha franklin's the gospel roots. we also saw smokey robinson, a lifelong friend, speak about her life and also some singing. we saw a rick snyder talking about aretha franklin and we are also looking forward to bill clinton, the former president, speaking as well. the celebration of aretha franklin underway and expected to last hours. queen of soul, first woman inducted to the rock 'n' roll hall of fame has had such an impact on music in this country

so we celebrate her life today. >> preparations are underway for the confirmation hearings for president trump's supreme court nominee, bright, brett kavanaugh. the senate judiciary committee expected to open hearings on tuesday. several g.o.p. senators have reportedly been helping him prep and mock hearings including orrin hatch who is a former judiciary committee chairman. democrats are expected to call john dean to testify, he was the white house counsel during president nixon's watergate scandal and is expected to testify about kavanaugh's views on power and executive privilege. we'll cover this on tuesday, as it happens. >> i think there's something going on tuesday. [laughs] >> chris, you've looked at the numbers he's getting through. what do you think? >> chris: what i hail mary. >> i've been enjoying him on

twitter myself. >> chris: brett kavanaugh will be confirmed, this is political theater at this point and i hope on the left that may be some sort of silver bullet or massive gaps will occur. and what we found was, this is the only question left, what red state democrats vote for his inauguration. heidi heitkamp, claire mccaskill, joe donnelly, joe manchin, if they vote against his confirmation they could potentially cost themselves reelection. >> the three of them did vote for neil gorsuch. it was heitkamp, donnelly and joe manchin. >> i think we could probably just have those three take it again and there were interesting numbers about susan collins who

is obviously a republican, but whose voters don't want her to vote for a kavanaugh. do you think this actually has any effect on -- >> chris: she's not up for reelection and neither is alaska -- murkowski. thank you. but from a standpoint of whether it or not it impacts there, those questions as they were asked were all made on social issues related to kavanaugh and not his qualifications. brett kavanaugh by all accounts is a qualified journalist and will be confirmed to the supreme court. those who vote against him do so at their own peril. >> if they keep calling for all these documents. >> chris: i mean the level of partisanship here is unprecedented. >> it is. i think it's also kind of funny that they ask for all these emails and they uncovered these emails and as they uncovered in them, the biggest crime they uncovered is that he stays at

the office really late and his bosses are admonishing him to go home and, this guy is clearly qualified and is clearly going to get past. i wish we could get over all the dramatics. >> chris: let's strike it out until november. >> >> dagen: speaking of november, the reason that president trump is even publicly saying jeff sessions' and going anywhere until at least after the midterms is because of the importance of getting brett kavanaugh onto the supreme court. this is one of the most critical things that his voters stepped up and got behind him in 2016. >> it unites the never trump-errors and pro-trump-errors. >> if you mention the documents and democrats are kicking and screaming because they know this is happening. but he's had over 300 opinions and a lot of this opinion is

already out in the public sphere and so that argument is kind of week. the national numbers don't look good for him but i know what you pointed out is what's important is digging into those democrats and they will feel the pressure to vote for him. you mentioned, what are you seeing in those red states and how much pressure do you think manchin or heidi heitkamp or donnelly are feeling right now? >> chris: they are under a lot of pressure. and i think this is key. when we look at one of the reasons that donald trump one in 2016, and there were a myriad of them, it was because of the supreme court. no question brought by a lot of voters out that might not have all otherwise voted. it was -- i think that was the key. the questions at this point, do they lose seats in the house, do they hold the house, is it enough to hold the house? this is the type of issue that is motivational to the republican base and 2018 will be the turn turnout election and that's an turnout issue.

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>> dagen: thanks to chris wilson. we are back on monday, even on labor day. rachel campos duffy is up tomorrow, and right now, molly line is in for harris. >> molly: saying goodbye to two american icons. funeral services for the queen of soul, aretha franklin. screenwriter, senator john mccain lying in state at the u.s. capitol is the public pays her respects. welcome to "outnumbered overtime." i molly line, and for harris faulkner. we are waiting for president clinton and the remarks he will make their first to the rotunda of the capitol building in washington now open for public viewing where thousands are expected to pay their respects to senator john mccain. the two-time presidential candidate will lie in state