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check their power. congress should be doing that but they are not. increasingly these companies are using their power and influence to shape the world around us. at some of them are bigger than the economies of entire nations. this show is an examination of those companies and the effects that they have on our lives, our country and our politics, the scale of there reaches reach is enormous and it's finally drawn the attention of policymakers including the president. >> president trump: i think google and facebook and twitter they treat conservatives and republicans very unfairly. i think it's a serious problem. they are really trying to silence a very large part of this country and those people don't want to be silenced, it's not right it's not fair, it may not be legal. >> tucker: fox news headlines anchor brett larson has been on the beat for quite someme time. >> earlier this week at the president sent out a tweet in

which he said in part google search results for trump news shows only the viewing reporting of fake news media. in other words, they have it rigged for me and others so that almost all stories and news is bad. google was quick to respond to the claimants in a statement saying in part search is not used to set the political agenda and we don't bias our results toward any political ideology. as for how the search works, that is a closely guarded secret. the algorithms used by online sites for google, twitter, and facebook are protected like the recipe for coca-cola. why? if sights knew how the search site worked it would be easier to regular web content to reach a larger audience. a few things are known about how the search works. google is scanning the web, looking for a variety of things to ensure that right pages are delivered to the right people. they check to see a site is mobile friendly, they also check

tori make sure the content is original and not just some plagiarized information with a bunch of ads and slept around it. where you go online also affect the search results as we know and we've reported here before, google keeps track of virtually everything you do mainly to ensure they show you the right ads. will have more on our investigation later this hour. in this case it's also to ensure you're getting the right search results. as for news search is a little different. news is happening 24 hours per day but on what viable source is needed for a news story, it craves more content and optimized for search will likely get a higher ranking. also a site that gets a live click through. if you search for california wildfires and in the results more people are going to our fox affiliate, they will move higher in the rankings. this is where the mainstream media has an advantage, though as they present more middle-of-the-roadil news, they

will have a larger reach within thehi results. doctor? >> tucker: depending on who defines the middle-of-the-road. i give very much, we'll see you later this hour. you just heard what google says it does the question is can we trust them. here's some background on the company. google removed his famous catch phrase don't be evil from its corporate code of conduct this year, it was a symbolic change but also may be ominous for the most powerfulr company in human history. theirke market cap is now about $860 billion, that's more than the gross domestic product of almost every country in the world. 170 countries have smaller gdp is in google. the federal trade commission prepared an antitrust case against them but the obama justice department didn't take it. google now controls nearlyma 90% of the search engine market, 65% of the browser market, 85% of

the oval mobile operating syst. they control the online ad marketon which means they also control the companies that rely on online advertising, that is every single digital news company in the united states. google has ann army of lobbyists in washington it bankrolls politicians and contributes to virtually every major think tank in washington regardless of ideologies including hilariously a d think tank dedicated to fighting monopolies. at least one of those think tanks has fired a staffer for being critical of google. thee question is -- and it may e rhetorical --e is google too powerful to regulate? scott leland is author of "search and destroy: why you can't trust google" and he joins us now. all of the t information comes o us from this tiny little portal, google says trust us were not

putting our thumb on the scale, can we? > no we can't because no one knows what goes on there. the problem is when you put access of supply and demand to access all of the world's information through one black box, one thing we have no transparency to, we don't understand and let's not forget the whole purpose of it is to rank. it is to choose what is best. they have said for years is algorithmic. it must be okay. anr algorithm is just a computer program that people decided what the biases would be. the problem with google is the fact we have concentrated all that power in one company. it's the most harmful monopoly you can imagine, information is power. absolute power corrupts absolutely. in a constitution republic, in a free market the free flow of

information, are paramount and central. when you go through one black box and say that is all occurring only here and there is one that sets what the ideology end approach is going to be, at filters through -- you have -- it's a very scary situation. he has created an unbelievably innovative and search engine. how the government to buy for ten years have been trying to prevent this monopoly and the government screwed up time and time again in allowing google to become -- >> tucker: that's for sure. news reports have reported that google is working to devise a search engine that wouldld help the fascist government of china repress its own people. given that we know they are

willing to suppress information on behalf of the government to achieve repressive political ends, why t should we trust them not to do that to us? >> we shouldn't. it's as orwellian as it becomes. when that is brought up, the president of united states had their -- said we never make our search results based on political ideology. they are committing to do that for china. for the entire country, soup to nuts. theyey are going to bow down to the chinese ideology. >> tucker: a country that executes political prisons in cells or organs. >> how they can say that with theng straight face, they're not bending their will to ideologies are not bending if they are it around the world. >> tucker: you're fighting a

lonely crusade and were obviously rooting for you. european regulators find google billions after they abuse the country, american regulators are nowhere to be found. luther loew's senior vice president of public policy now.elp and he joins us i was particularly happy to talk to you since you're right in the middle of this world. if you work for a big tech company. it's's a really simple question, google has a monopoly nobody debates that. we have a whole congress of the 535 people on it designed to protect us from monopolies but they're not. >> this political capture going on. if you have a search engine that is clearly guilty of self-serving bias and were not talking about bias that president trump tweeted about earlier this week. were talking about easy to prove bias and the most common area of

what we do on google, this should be a slam-dunk. we should be able to show consumer harm andoe we have done so. when a momed does a search for a pediatrician in salt lake city, she is trusting google to match her with the best information. that has been thee implicit promise toha the users throughot its growth but what happens is they have swapped out that information and put their own inferior informationnf there. this creates a harm and it gets back to your question about monopoly. if you can show that consumer harm, then you can easily prosecute an antitrust case. this is why i think we should focus on the business conduct as it relates to search. >> tucker: the monopoly is prima facie and do so is the harm. you work in washington on this issue.mb you've spoken to members of congress and you told them what they already know, the company is too a powerful it has a monopoly is hurting consumers. how do they respond? >> were starting to see the tide

turn. i was heartened to see senator hatch's letter yesterday to the chairman of the federal trade commission where he said listen, we close the last investigation in 2013. one expects when you close an antitrust investigation the market is going to be less calcified, the company in question is going to be less entrenched there's going to be more start-ups and so forth. we are saying the opposite. maybe we should take another look at this. i think were beginning to see the tide turn. >> tucker: good for senator hatch but i think there is 99 other guys in the same chamber. what would be the justification quickly for not acting? i don't understand. >> we have a completely new slate of ftc commissioners running public hearings now to collecton information and i'm cautiously optimistic they are going to re-examine a lot of the questions. >> tucker: are not an american company it's a multinational. this is a foreign threat to our country.

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>> tucker: welcome back to our special "tucker carlson >> tucker: welcome back to our special "tucker carlson tonight" tech tyranny. tyranny is not an overstatement in this case. the man behind the book and movie clinton cash that expose their pay relationship is coming out with a new film and the target is big tech, here's a preview. >> they suppress certain types of results based on what they think, based on what your followers are representing. >> it's what google and facebook are doing on a regular basis by suppressing stories, steering us toward other stories rather than the stories we are actually seeking. >> they willic always favor one

online music service over another and one candidate over another. >> google crosses the creepy line every day. >> tucker: t the film comes out september 17th, peter schweitzer the man behind the project and he joins us. congratulations on this film, remarkably prescient and i'm sure it will bere as smart as yr last project was. he spent all this time looking into the subject, tell us the salient thingshe you learned, wt blow your mind in researching this? >> a couple of things, the dominant that google has in the marketplace but second google is unlike any other company in the world. what do i mean by that? they're motivated by profit, they have shareholders and owners but this is a company that at its core is utopian or at least the founders have a utopiania vision. they don't view themselves as another company. when people say google would never manipulate the algorithm,

they were never engaged in this kind of behavior because they don't want to hurt their market share, they don't think in those terms. they make decisions all the time that is based on r their visionn what is good and right rather than what consumers want. with the power they have combined with this idealism, i think it creates the problems we have today with censorship and manipulation. >> tucker: i think you got right to the heart of it, they have a vision. is there vision in sync with the views of the average american? what is their vision? >> i think there vision is a vision is epitomized by burning man, sort of this festival that they go to. when they hired eric schmidt to be ceo 15 years ago, one of the reasons they picked him is man.se he wants to burning a secularist religious gathering in the nevada desert, there's a

lot of things about traditional values they don't like. there are a lot ofof views about conservative free-market capitalism they don't like. they have a vision they want to be transformative. that's fine but they want to be transformative to an american public that isn't interested in being transformed by them. the problem is that we don't know what they're doing. we don't know what we don't know, we know the end results we know there's provable evidence of manipulation. we don't know how it's being done. that's what makes it so troubling and difficult to get underneath. >> tucker: there not an american company, there are a multinational company despitete the fact that al gore owns a lot of the stock. do they see themselves ass a company that has an obligation to america, american society, our culture and economy or no? >> they don't. they view themselves as a transformative country.

they read that statement to say we don't manipulate the algorithm for political benefits, that rings hollow. go back 5-10 years ago, they were charged with manipulating the algorithm for commercial purposes, luther lowe was talking about that on the show. what was google's position? it was the same absolute denial. the problem is the european union the federal trade commission, scholars at harvard and elsewhere have looked at this and said that they are lying. why should we believe them now? the evidence isis overwhelming they're engaging in political manipulation as well. >> tucker: and our congress does nothing. peter schweitzer, the movie comes out september 17th. thank you forou that. whatia would happen if the social media companies started to pick winners and losers in elections? it's not a small question, it could i invalidate our democracy instantly, will investigate bat coming up on this special edition of "tucker carlson tonight" ."

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those costs. i'm marianne rafferty, now back to tucker carlson tonight. >> tucker: here is the central question for all of us who live in this country. how much power to the tech companies have over our democratic elections? the american institute for behavioral research and technology sr. research psychologistst robert epstein weighed in on that question on this show, watch. >> we should be extremely concerned because i can tell you the bottom line here is content no longer matters. all that matters is the filtering and ordering of content and that is completely in the hands of google and facebook. ive think the problems can be solved at some point but at the moment i think democracy is in trouble. >> tucker: that probably woke you up. dan bongino is a contributor to

nra tv and a frequent guest on this show he joins us tonight. why is this not a much graver threat than russia? weiss is not a foreign threat from a foreign country to the heart of our democracy? >> it is, i think that's obvious to rational people but that assumes were dealing with rational people. were not, were dealing with politicians and the media swamp that's interested in simply in combating donald trump and they believe wrongly that the russian narrative works for them. this targeting of conservative content is very real. anyone on the social media platforms has experienced it, i've experienced it myself, i have the trifecta for you. i was banned for running ads on twitter but what they cited as inappropriate content but all i post as conservative content, that's all i do. they never explain what itla wa. on youtube, our videos our podcast gets flagged all the time. theyel have a yellow button. when it turns yellow it, you can

earn any money on it. that doesn't happen as often and on instagram we have a tough time getting a blue check mark despite a 60,000 followers. this is very real. it happens to candidate runs for office. >> tucker: it doesn't need to happen to candidates to threaten the rest of us because it shuts down part of the conversation and that inevitably -- it's got to have an effect on how people voted. you don't hear ideas and you can't internalize it. why isn't that right there a threat to our elections? >> they want to have it both ways. l thesey social media platforms -- let's be clear on this. theyey want the protections of beingot an open platform in plan english, we are not responsible for what people post, don't sue us. then on the t other hand, they treat themselves like publisher publishers. the new catchphrase is the algorithms.

that's a selective process of weeding out conservative content and giving favorable to liberal content toav the new public spa. you can't have it both ways. >> tucker: an algorithm is editing, that's what we used to call it in journalism. thank you for that. the tech giants are politically biased against conservatives, no one disputes that. exhibit a is a special hostility to people with pro-life views. they are hated above all. lila rose would know she is founder president of life action and she joins us tonight. thank you for coming on, tell us your experience with social media. >> life action has the largest following online for the pro-life movement. over 3 billion h people, our videos have hundreds of will make hundreds of millions of views online that we have been totally banned from doing any advertising on twitter. meanwhile planned parenthood and other pro-abortion groups are advertising and they are

advertising petitions to further suppress and sensor life action and other pro-life groups. this is what we've been phasing out for 3 years. >> tucker: standard three-step snack and make an obvious point. if the advocates for abortion believed it would be such a good thing they want to be so intent on shutting you down they know they're wrong and that's why they suppressed speech. let me ask thehe perpetual question, how can that be? do you have any recourse? these are in effect public utilities is there anything you can do about it? >> we are ultimately going on other platforms and making sure that we can reach people directly through our own website and finding other ways to reach people. ultimately, twitter has sided with the abortion industry. despite their claims, despite jack dorsey going on the news in the last several weeks, we don't discriminate based on viewpoint. he is flat out lying. we are as you say exhibit a.

the other part like you just said is when people learn the truth especially about this human rights issue of abortion. when they learn about what abortion is, what it does to the child in the womb, we have an abortion procedure series of videos that have been viewed over 100 million times. we survey people and they change their minds on abortion. people are having moments saying this is violent against the child, this is harmful to women. we don't want this anymore. that's's what twitter is afraidf because they know that when the truth gets out there about the humanity of the child in the womb about what abortion is, the abortionists lose every time. that's why twitter is so interested in defending abortion interests because that's her ideology despite the lies of their own ceo of not having it be a point. >> tucker: the last thing they want is a conversation about it. lila rose, thank you, good to seeou you. if you have an android phone and you should check, then google is

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anchor brett larson went out to investigate this for our show, watch. >> we wanted to figure out what exactly google ise' learning abt throughout the day so here's what were going to do. were have two identical phones. the only difference is this one is in airplane mode. both of the phones lack a sim card and they haven't been set up to access any wi-fi networks. for all intents and purposes these phones have no connection to a data network. while i travel around we'll figure out just about what google is finding out about me. >> our first stop a quick coffee, then we took a walk to the capital and took a quick walk around the senate office buildings and then decided to hop in a car and head around town. we are going to the children's hospital.

we had to do more than walk the block so we took a tour around the nation's capital. due north to the children's national medical center hospital then west to saint albans at school and the national cathedral. our tour around town was a 14-mile journey that lasted more than an hour. the entire time, the phones had no access to the internet. not a wi-fi connection and not any cellular data service. it almost seemed quaint to assume google wouldn't be able to collect data on n t may. >> let's head back to the bureau. the church is beautiful. >> their business model is a simple, collect data on its users and use that data to sell targeted ads. it's a business model called surveillance capitalism. but does that critical data collection work even when you're phones aren'tac connected? >> were back at our bureau in d.c. and we have both of our phones exactly how we left with them. the only difference? i snapped a couple of bad selfies at the national cathedral. otherwise they have stayed in my pocket for the entire day, let's find out what they know. this is our man in in the midde

device, it's basically a wi-fi network that these phones are connected to once we turn their wi-fi on. it's going to pass data through it but on the way were going to get a copy of the same data that google ist going to get. we'lll be able to decrypt it and find out where we've been. >> the numbers rolled in, the phone that wasn't on airplane mode registered more than 100 locations, 130 activities in more than 150 due barometric readings. as soon as it hooked up to a wi-fi it transmitted 300 kilobytes of data trade to google. it even logged our exact locations tracking us all around town. theos capital, the hospital, the school, and the cathedral. >> you may notice what's missing is the exact route that we took but it got that data too, it knows when i got out of the car. >> the metadata has a time log tracking everything. when they y think you're walkin, writing, even getting out of the car. so you're thinking this isn't a

big deal i'll just put my phone in airplane mode. this is the other phone we had with the snow sim card, also remained in airplane mode to the entire time. let's see what kind of data it captured? >> the phone with airplane mode activated actually logged more locations and activities in the other phone and it also transmitted hundreds of kilobytes of data to make a google as was activated. >> the only thing that's missing is our stop at the children's hospital, it still knows we were there. there it is, exiting vehicle. >> google gets users to sign away their privacy for nothing. they're even follow you in places most people would expect total privacy. it children's hospital, a private school, a church, every move you make google is watching you. it's a scary conclusion to come to if you're using an androidoi device. we should point out as i mentioned in the piece when you

are using gmail if you're using google drive any of their services, you're actually not using a product, you are the product. you are what they're selling to appetizers and that data they collect about you is turned around and sold to advertisers to give you that for a specific of advertising. >> tucker: i don't think people appreciate that. this is a remarkable report because it reveals that you don't have control over theei surveillance. theyey lie to you and say that u do but you don't. what about iphone users? >> with iphone users apple is capturing a lot of information about you but they are not using it to sell you advertising. theyhe are using it to better their services that they offer but if you're using google applications on your iphone, it in many instances is actually capturing all of that same data. >> tucker: any google apps. if you have google maps. every living human being with

an iphone does. >> apple maps is an inferior product. if you're using google maps which most of us are it's constantly tracking data. as we learned earlier in the month, if you're using google search and to set it stopped you're usingut google search on your mobile device be that on an iphone or an android device they are again capturing your location information. >> tucker: it wouldn't be such a big deal if you could trust the company if they weren't working on behalf of the fascist government of china. thank you for that reporting. when it's not spying on you, google is cracking down on ideological dissent in its own ranks. just ask james taymor who was fired in the name of inclusion and diversity for writing a memo that called for inclusion and diversity. that's next. do you need the most trusted battery in your wireless mouse?

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♪ >> tucker: last summer james taymor learns what happens when question the groupthink of silicon valley. while working as an engineer he privately circulated a paper he wrote that asked why isn't a company so committed to diversity more ideologically diverse? he didn't attack anyone he just question the internal logic of what heha was being told. for that, the company fired him and then attacked him and tried to prevent him from working anywhere else. they tried to destroy his life. he came on this show a safe space for dissent to discuss what happened to him. >> what did they say to you, when they g called you in out of the conversation go? what was the justification for ending your career at google?

>> the official justification was perpetuating gender stereotypes. >> tucker: you wouldn't think google would have a culture where emotional outrage drives decision making, the whole point of google was they are rational. they don't sound rational at al all. >> there's a certain dogmas that you really can't dissent against at google and one of them is that there's any difference between people. >> tucker: the orwellian future is increasingly the orwellian present. tech barons are our new commissars. liberals for generations stood up for free expression and opposition to corporate power have been so so and thoroughly co-opted if they are not against speech and for google. harmeet dhillon is a lawyer and she joined us tonight. thanks very much for coming on we follow the saga since the very beginning. you've been involved and google

when last we checked with you it wasal trying to destroy his life for this memo is that still the case? > they have attempted to destroy his career they started out after firing him by smearing him in the international media and continuing this narrative and hunting down people in the company who had supported him as well. a purge going on there atat goo google. they also we believe helped interfere with his job g search. a prominent company in silicon valley called higher.com that helps people in the tech industry find jobs mysteriously disappeared him from the website within one day and has belligerently told us that they can pick and choose who they help, that's not california law, you can't doef that.

we feel like there's a coordinated effort to make sure not just james but people who espouse those views are hounded out of employment in silicon valley and it's scary. >> tucker: has he not found a job? >> he is employed. because of the fact that recently people are being harassed for supporting him, he's keeping the location of his workplace confidential. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. for our viewers who may not be read into the story, if you think that reporting a thumb on the scale read his memo, it's available online and see if there's anything, even one sentence and it that's offensive. the whole thing is bewildering. is there any movement within google to diversify? is there any dissent, is there anyone who agrees with james who can speak out or tisse has? >> c those people who agree with him are leaving the company voluntarily or involuntarily one by one. it's hard to find out. what they have done in the wake of the whole controversy with james is actually try to revamp its internal message board

policy to appoint employees of the company to be narcs to spy on each other and report back to th management. i wouldn't have thought a year ago if you told us this was happening it would be true. i guess it fits with their new move into china where they assign social media scores or scores to people that follow them throughout their lives. theen government takes control f where you get to travel based on thisis information. in silicon valley it's the same thing. if you're assigned a socially undesirable label by big media or bigud tech, then all of a sudden you are now out, you're persona non grata. >> tucker: this is the company who is trying to destroy a young man's life because it didn't agree with a memo he wrote. this is the company we trust to hold all human information and sorted for us? >> i don't trust it anymore.

a lot of people use their services but i think people should be very careful. not to bring in this other issue but when they have all this information about you and they are openly agreeing to censorship in foreign countries at the demand of foreign countries, how long is it before you can expect to see that openly done here? we know what happens here with search results and so forth but in a couple of years when they're doing business in china are you going to be able to search for the dalai lama and america? that's a huge question we should be asking. the government should be asking that. these companies all operate with tremendous market power and they meet regularly. just last week there was a meeting of top tech companies to talk about election interference and what does thatn? mean. >> tucker: of course they are in congress should act to be to leave they're tooul afraid. thank you for this. good to see you. once you decide it's okay to censor opinions you disagree with, where does that windup?

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>> well, the tech giants see >> tucker: the tech giants see themselves as gatekeepers of the internet and aspe such routinely engage in censorship of political speech, speech they disagree with. in most cases that affects conservatives but nonmainstream liberals have been targeted too especially those who express opposition to the democratic establishment or to endless war. one of the boundaries of censorship? once a company starts making decisions about what speech is permissible and what speech is not. jesse kelly is a marine corps combat veteran which has a spott for free speech abroad. thank you very much for coming on. you wrote this piece i thought was really t compelling about ax jones. you said i don't agree with him butal that's not the point. the point as you articulated was if you can silence this guy because you don't like what he says why can't they silence you or me?

>> that is the point and they are coming for you or me next. alex jones was the weak member of the herd because of his insane views on certain things. they knew they could pick them off at what he was was a test run. if they can pick off this nut job that may be sooner or later we can come for the more mainstream voices on the right. the social media facebook twitter, that's 2.5 billion people they reached. people have to understand it's no longer a couple of nerds sitting in the college dorm room powerful.and it's >> tucker:ee i washed feeling nauseous is almost no figures as you said in the mainstream right rose to the defense of alex jones. not defending what he said but defending his right to say it. the most basic american principle, why did they sit silently as this happened? >> everybody wants to be the one that's eaten last. they convinced themselves that if the lien will just gorge

himself on enough of those antelopes eventually he'll never come eat me but that's not how it works. we are whistling past the graveyard. we gave them the education system and to rely on google now or facebook for your news is like t pouring a cup of coffee d filteringoo it through a jockstp before you drink it. >> tucker: it doesn't work. social media is the last place where dissent is allowed, is not allowed in the workplace is not allowed in public parks. if they take that away people with different views are silence, correct? >> it's the final frontier is no longer a random thing. it's how you break news and make news, social media makes career careers. it's what's used by law enforcementen to track peop. it is the information age and if we censor that, that's modern book burning. >> tucker: so nicely put, god bless you for standing up for speech especially against

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