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♪ [national anthem] ♪ >> i gave an interview yesterday to bloomberg but i gave a totally off-the-record, you saw it. it said off-the-record and it said they were violating. it's unbelievable what's happening with the fake news. >> i think today what's happened is that news reporting has been part of the adversary system. >> the pressure is on on neighbors to the north. >> i love canada, but they have taken advantage of our country for many years. i even love their national anthem it's called very appropriately o canada. would you like toe to sick it? >> doj officials told congressional investigators this week about a july 2016 breakfast with a british spy behind the trump dossier. >> he admitted in his filings at the department justice that his wife was getting paid for composing
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the dossier. >> judicial watch has now uncovered that no fisa court hearing took place on former trump campaign associate carter page. >> astonishing and disturbing that these courts couldn't bother to hold hearings on spy warrants targeting donald trump. >> decided not to shave. >> yeah. i took a vacation a couple of weekends, you know, let's grow it out and let it happen. america is growing a beard. why can't we? ♪ ♪ summertime feeling ♪ ♪ i'm feeling it ♪ ed: corner, pete, says america is doing it. america is growing a beard? pete: like when you get vacation time and off your job you grow maybe it's hunting season in wisconsin or minnesota, you don't care. you don't shave and sometimes you come back to work i want a little bit of the vacation to bleed over into my work time. that's what i'm going for right now. ed: while you have been on
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vacation rachel has been here working very hard. welcome back. rachel: i shaved my legs for the show. [laughter] ed: we're very glad about that. last night i was at the u.s. open and it felt like competing with you serena versus venus williams sister like fighting brothers. i felt like serena, 6-1, 6-2. they shook hands at the end. pete: never know how it's going to end up. ed: i think you are going to shave in a little bit. i have a gift for you. pete: always comes bearing gifts. ed: a viewer came up and said i want pete to have this gift. i want the viewers to see what it says. get the dvr out. see that little thing there congratulations? santa ed. a little something for pete. rachel: write, in let us know what you think of pete's beard. pete: they want show shave it off. telling me it has to go. ed: should it be shaved nut next hour or so? we have plans for pete. let's put it that way.
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pete: oh boy. ed: big dust up. pete: about your profession of journalism. ed: you told me to lead here because i thought i was going with the news. you want to come after the fake news. i might agree what you little bit about this. yesterday a dust-up about how the president does an interview with bloomberg news. he is talking about, among other things, this emerging trade deal with canada. there is on-the-record part and off-the-record part where he allegedly said all kinds of controversial things. when you read them closely, they don't sound that controversial the toronto star saying donald trump confirms the star story on his secret bombshell remarks about canada. well, what were the bombshell remarks? among other things he allegedly told bloomberg in the private part of the interview i can't kill these people, he said of the canadian government. and in another remark he did not want published trump said any deal with canada would be quote, unquote, totally on our terms. number one off-the-record shouldn't have gotten out.
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number two, what's so controversial about him saying america first. i want a good deal. pete: i read the remarks they didn't feel controversial at all. rachel: they are not controversial. however if you are in the middle of a deal trying help american dairy farmers maybe you don't want that out there. when i read the remarks i understood why the president was mad. here's what the president halls to say about being -- saying something off-the-record and it being printed still can't believe that bloomberg violated a firm off-the-record statement, will they put out an apology? he wants an apology from bloomberg. pete: yeah, he does. he spoke last night as well, the president, i believe it was at a series of fundraisers in north carolina. as always, very interesting. he talked about what it means to be off the record. it's not a legal term. he says it's a term of honor. you put a lot of trust in journalists. [laughter] pete: saying sometimes it doesn't work. listen. >> i gave a totally off-the-record. you saw it i said off-the-record and i said
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something strong but it's my belief. and they violated it. and they said they were violating it. when you say off-the-record. that's a very -- it's not a legal term but it's a term of honor. they said president trump said off the record and then they go on to this. [laughter] i said this is a first. these are very dishonorable people but i said in the end it's okay. because at least canada knows how i feel u so it's fine. it's fine. [applause] it's true. pete: there is unwritten rules of journalism, ed. the president gave an off-the-record remark to bloomberg. somehow the toronto star got it they have the obligation. pete: they don't have the obligation toronto star. if they found out -- the president has not confirmed he said it basically. he is angry about it and justifiably. so the question to me did the bloomberg reporters who did not publish those off-the-record remarks, did they start talking to their colleagues in the pressroom and say you won't believe
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what he said off the record because which is not something. if it's off the record it's not just off the record to publish. it's off the record to talk about. you are not -- because, once you start talking about it, it's going to leak out. rachel: in the end this isn't so bad for the president. he is the only president in recent history that has gone to bat for american workers for american farmers. the farmers in dairy country love that he is fighting this hard for him. pete: by the way the trade talks everyone said they're off because of these off-the-record remarks? they're back on on monday. rachel: donald trump has them cornered and they have to. ed: exactly. pete: maybe part of a negotiation strategy. mexico son board maybe canada will be on board. rachel: press say they want more access it the president. ed: hurts credibility. i'm trusting. i'm trusting you. look, the last couple of days we have also been
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spending a lot of time justifiably so on memorial services for two important americans john mccain and aretha franklin. yesterday, here we are let's talk about let's celebrate the life and legacy of this legacy of aretha franklin. what does al sharpton get up there he tries to cover a mistake misspelling one of her most famous songs when she first died he went on members misspelled a key word which you are going to hear respect. he turned that around as a jab at president trump at a funeral. >> you know the other sunday on my show i misspelled respect. [laughter] and a lot of y'all -- a lot of y'all corrected me. now i want you all to help me correct president trump to team him what it means. and i say that because when word had went out that miss franklin passed, trump said
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she used to work for me. no, she used to perform for me. she worked for us. aretha never took orders from nobody but god. pete: aretha franklin an american icon as you said, an amazing woman that changed our culture, empowered a lot of people. wonderful. to me the story was not though comments predict frble al sharpton. you look at the so-called mainstream media. there were a lot of photos circulating. bill clinton, jesse jackson and al sharpton. if the fourth seat you had louie farrakhan. there he is on the left. a lot of media cropsd him out. a lot of mainstream folks. white folks are going down, white people deserve to die. the satanic jews. he is out and out racist. in reality he can go to that funeral. ed: if the family wanted him there. pete: totally under standable. so much much the media
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putting photos out of the other three and not him. it's such a double standard. imagine if the inverse were to be true and white nationalist racist there. ed: if president trump attenned that funeral and white nationalist three seats over it would be the lead story wall-to-wall lead. rachel: jesse yaction e al sharpton and louis farrakhan. i don't want to be lectured by any of them. how overtly christian so much of it was i was impressed and jennifer hudson's ren division amazing grace. talk about divinely inspired. ed: it went on for a little too long. rachel: it was like 8 hours long. anyway we are. ed: we are going to read some headlines. rachel: we will read headlines and then have snacks. services continual for late senator and war hero john mccain. wife cindy and daughter paying respects.
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30th person to lie in state at the u.s. capitol rotunda. >> i will miss a dear friend whose smile reminded us that service is a privilege and whose scars reminded us great cost that brave souls paid for our freedom. ed: later this hour we will have a live report from capitol hill on the ceremony planned this morning at the national cathedral. rachel: the fbi arresting a muslim extremist training kids to become school shooters at new mexico compound. all five now charged with breaking firearm and conspiracy laws. they will appear in court on tuesday. three of the suspects were released from custody on wednesday after prosecutors missed a deadline to present evidence. 11 starving kids were found during a raid at the compound last month. along with the remains of a little 3-year-old boy. unbelievable. collin kaepernick welcomed by the crowd at the u.s. open with a standing ovation. the social justice warrior sitting in luxury box with
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former teammate the williams sister show down in new york. serena williams beating venus in straight sets to move one round closer to the championship. it's the 30th time the pair have feyed off in their careers. wow. those had your headlines. ed: i was there i was stunned with the standing ovation. collin kaepernick was a few sections from me. he was well-received. pete's vacation beard is literally on the chopping block this morning. pete: i don't think the viewers spoke. ed: they did. rachel: the viewers spoke. i saw you that beard has to go. ed: pardon me, we have a live look of the barber standing by. look at this, he has everything. where are the blades? that's what i want to know. where are the blades he? doesn't seem ethics sighted. we just woke him up. we literally just called him. rachel: one person standing um for beard that's my husband. these these thank you congressman. rachel: he should you should
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lookeep it looks good. ed: hate pete's beard so cute before. now i don't even like looking at him. please tell him shave it off. rachel: that is hilarious. from mike, make pete shave again. pete: that's the best response. chris, the beard would work well on a deserted island with a parrot but not on "fox & friends." ed: nailed it. rachel: with key get a parrot? ed: keep the emails coming. maybe we can send the barber away. friends@foxnews.com. what do you think? so far it's 3-0. pete: three cherry picked emails. rachel: what do the kids say do they like it. pete: fluffy. ed: so cute before. president trump warned the doj he is about to take some action. >> if it doesn't straighten out properly, i want them to do their job. i will get in there if i have to.
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hearings on spy warrants targeting donald trump. these courts are supposed to provide oversight of the secret spy process, refused to do. so we have got the courts falling asleep at the wheel here. and, of course, have you the underlying corruption of the doj and fbi. pete: ian it, sounds like no hearings and a lot of rubber stamping. what do you make of this? >> look. this is the public's first real look into the fisa application process. but the lack of a hearing is not necessarily abnormal. there is no rule that requires the court to have hearings. in fact, it's discretionary within the court. that said, it's been reported that what usually happens is that the doj lawyers engage in back and forth with the court, with the staff the court to make sure that the application is buttoned up and passes court muster before they submit it that takes the place of a
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hearing. ed: challenge that if that's the fact there are not a lot of hearings and say we are talking about surveillance of a suspected isis terrorist. there might not need to be a hearing. evidence at the justice department and fbi we go and stop a terror attack. in this case we are talking about an american citizen in carter page. let me basically turn it around on you. you shouldn't there be more of a check? shouldn't there be hearings if an american, any american, a democrat or republican is surveilled on by our government? that's a great question. this someone of the things in the inspector general's broad mandate here is to look at the fisa application process. and often when the inspector general comes out with these kind of reports, he will recommend changes. this is what we should do. this is how we should do it better. i think it's a great question and something we should look at. should there be more hearings and should there be more oversight and should there be more protections? i think we will have that debate in the coming months. pete: the president has said in the last couple days maybe i should get involved. maybe de classification
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should happen. we don't know a lot about this fisa process. clearly it was abused or seems to have been abused at some level. what can we do to bring transparency to this recess to make sure it's not abused again and people who abused it are held accountable? >> i will say this about the president's comments. you hear a lot of people they talk about the department of justice like it's a fourth branch of government. it's not. all the executive power flows through the president of the united states. he delegates that power. he can take it back. if he feels that something needs to be changed or that something needs to be de classified, that's a decision he has to make. and certainly, this is an issue that is on the minds of a lot of people. it's currently being investigated by the inspector general and i think it is an important issue for people to look closely at. ed: look at it but to follow up on one of pete's questions there. there is a lot we're throwing at you so i understanding we have got to go through this piece by piece. but he said what about holding people accountable? if they were susan rice or james comey back in the last administration, hold them accountable if, and i underline if there were
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abuses. why does bruce ohr still have a job at the justice department? >> let me say this: what bruce ohr did back channeling information from christopher steele to the fbi was absolutely inappropriate. it was not his job. his portfolio was gangs and drugs, not counter intelligence. even if it was counter intelligence, he was obviously conflicted. he would have had to have recused himself. ed: his wife was working at fusion gps and he had a financial interest in this, a conflict of interest as you say. go back to the question where is the accountability? how does he have a job you are admitting and acknowledging fairly this is inappropriate. why does he still have a job. >> i can tell you the leadership at this department of justice is going to same process they did when they fired andy mccabe and peter strzok. let the inspector general continue his investigation, submit a report. if that report shows that bruce ohr broke the law or broke department policy i suspect he will suffer the same fate as peter strzok or andy mccabe.
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pete: so you don't think they will have a job in six months or a year. >> i don't know. we will see what the inspector general report's says i know they will rely heavily on that. pete: will the de classification be a national security problem. >> i think there is a lot of things to consider on that front. i think first of all the president needs to know he has a rabid press corps that is waiting for him to do that because they will attack mercilessly. the bigger problem for the president here if he does that and democrats take the house in november, that is going to be a big problem for him politically coming up. ed: ian pryor thanks for coming. in. pete: ian gets to wear a beard and i can't. ed: we may stop him from leaving the d.c. bureau. pete: he may have lost the 2004 election. could he give it another shot? 16 years later in 2020. why his name has been added to the long list of dems vying to take on president trump. ed: how can you tell the story about the moon landing without the iconic planting of the american flag on the moon? hollywood seems to think they can get away with it we ask a former astronaut what
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like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. pete: welcome back. couple of quick headlines for you. more than a dozen dangerous ms-13 gang members now off the streets. 25 people charged in connection with several murders and drug trafficking. the arrest come after a months long investigation into gang operations in fresno, california. and an extra 1400 officers will patrol chicago streets this labor day. hoping to cus to curb the ongoig violence. nine people were shot yesterday alone. two of those victims are dead. unfortunately. rachel, down to you. >> thanks, pete.
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is hollywood trying to rewrite history specifically this moment. ed: new film ryan gosling facing criticism for skipping planting the american flag on the moon. rachel: gosling said it was a human and universal achievement. does this do a disservice to the bravery of american astronaut. ed: with us now lieutenant colonel andy allen. welcome. >> good morning. ed: what's your reaction to this because factually as a journalist there was an person flag planted on that moon i. >> it was. i look two perspectives. first perspective it was this nation. it was america that led this space race to the moon. it was america that planted this flag on the moon. it was the american leadership that got us there that had the vision to get us there and that got us the right funding to get us
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there. it was the american people that made it happen with tax money and team of people made it occur as all astronauts you want have you as many landings as you do takeoff. from a personal perspective, when you made a grament accomplishment or something you think is a great accomplishment, have you that defining moment. have you that moment that says did i it. i got it i made it. whether that's the last step on mount everest. crossing the threshold or hearing a baby making first cry. whether it's main engine cut off on first flight. will stop commanders of the landing planting a flag on the moon. that defines that you did it that you made it after that is perspective. it's reflection. ed: you said for yourself this is measure taxpayer money. it was american muscle. it was american president a democrat named john f. kennedy who said we're going to the moon.
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why can't hollywood just say this was an american achievement? >> well that's an interesting question and i'm not sure i'm qualified to have the answer why hollywood would do that. i hope they didn't do it with ill intent that it would be a disservice to this nation and to the people that believe in what that flag represents. that flag is about -- it doesn't represent a perfect nation. it represents leadership and it represents commitment to this constitution. >> so so there. rachel: seems to have been a lot of controversial about our flag lately and who knows maybe that had something to do with it here is a statement from mark and rick armstrong who are the sons of neil armstrong on mission. they say this story is human and universal, of course. it celebrates an american achievement. it also celebrates an achievement for all mankind as it says on the plaque neil and buzz left on the moon it is a story about an ordinary man who makes sacrifices and suffers
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through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible. so, obviously, his sons aren't offended or upset about this historical omission. do you have any thoughts on why they feel that or have you talked to other astronauts and gotten their thoughts on it? >> i have talked to a few of the over snawts. i certainly agree with the sons in the sense that this is the event of what they would call an ordinary man that got to do an extraordinary event. rachel: sure. this was a person who was ready. in the end neil armstrong is an american patriot. he did this because this is the calling he was asked to go perform. rachel: it's a great point. he wasn't a global citizen he was an american. ed: right, exactly. it's an american achievement done by an american patriot. we appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you. ed: why while thousands paid
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their respect al sharpton took time to. >> trump said she used to work for me. no, she used to perform for you. she worked for us. ed: louis farrakhan was front and center right next to bill clinton. was that appropriate? rachel: pete is about to say goodbye. his beard is going, going, going, gone. next. ♪ i've been hoping somebody loves you in the way i couldn't ♪ somebody's taking care of ♪
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ed: services continue in washington, d.c. later this morning to celebrate the life and legacy of senator john mccain. rachel: this comes after thousands of americans flock to the capitol rotunda to say their final goodbyes chad pergram joins us live from capitol hill on w. more on today's memorial. chad? >> these are the final hours for john mccain here at the u.s. capitol. a u.s. capitol police honor guard has stood vigil over his casket in the capitol rotunda throughout the night. thousands came here to pay their respects to the late senator yesterday. many clutched kleenexes and we also heard from top congressional leaders mitch mcconnell the ♪ majority leader paul ryan. >> service is a privilege and whose scars reminded us of the great cost that brave
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souls pay for our freedom. >> a man, yes, of the senate but also a man of the house a navy man, a family man, a man who made an enormous difference in the lives of countless people. >> now without question the most emotional moment of the day came when sam johnson, a republican congressman from texas who is retiring who was a cell mate of john mccain's in vietnam was escorted to the casket by house minority leader nancy pelosi and joe crowley the democratic congressman from queens new york. now, senator mccain, he will be taken from the capitol 8:309:00 this morning. motorcade national cathedral. they will stop briefly and pause by the -- he will be eulogized by president obama and george w. bush two people who beat him in his quest for the presidency. hear from lindsey graham republican senator from south carolina who was his
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best friend in the senate. he will read from the book of john, very appropriate. and there will also be a reading from the rec re here he lies where he longs to be. here is the sailor home from the sea. rachel, ed? rachel: beautiful. ed: very moving. rachel: thank you, chad. a dozen airline passengers treated for respiratory issues after a caven pepper spray accidentally goes off mid flight. pilots declaring an emergency but safe live landing in maui hours after taking off from california. three crew members also treated but unclear how the pepper spray went off. a passenger is facing a fine for smuggling the pepper spray onboard. tv co-workers turn out to be not so friendly off camera. the meteorologist on the right is accused of fracturing the skull and rupturing the ear drusm the tv anchor on the left they knowed to come to "fox &
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friends." west virginia police say a bar fight broke out when erika the anchor confronted chelsea for allegedly hitting on her husband. police say that's when ambriz violently shoved her. she could face a year in jail while bivins recovers at home. bikini clad blimp of sadiq khan taking over the skies. raising money to fly the balloon over parliament to mock the anti-trump mayor it's in response to the trump baby balloon flown in protest during the president's trip to the uk last month. ed: pete is jumping. in. rachel: he liked that one. one college is putting the high in higher education. new jersey stock don university now ruling out a minor in marijuana studies. i would not be a parent wanting to pay for that the pro-pot courses include business science and the law
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behind the budding fields. six medical marijuana facilities are running in the garden state and officials are considering legalization for the recreational use of it. that's the rationale behind the class. ed: didn't have a barber segment going on because they would have razors. rick: i want to comment on every one of those headlines. i was hoping each one of those headlines was the last one so i could talk about. whoever put those together, that was really awesome. talk a little bit about the weather. these are yesterday's high temperatures. it was so brutal this week. across a lot of the eastern seaboard. a little bit of cool loss yesterday. heat coming back with that. you notice air streams right there. cooler temperatures along the coast. that air is moving towards the coast and we will have all kinds of risks for rip current along the eastern seaboard. even around the gulf this weekend. be careful if you are out on the beaches for last unofficial weekend of the summer. take a look at this, also a
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lot of precipitation out there across the eastern two thirds of the country pop up and fire up again this afternoon. over to you. ed: come on over, rick. back to reality for pete hegseth and vacation beard has got to go. rachel: viewers have spoken and i voted too to take off the scuff j look. pete: the viewers have not spoken. if you look on twitter 53 percent said no, keep. ed: show us a proper share and how it's done on yours truly is the barber and co-owner of cohen barbershop here in manhattan. you told us you are russian. ed: you were not part of any of that russian collusion stuff? rachel: irony. rick: collusion wanting to shave the beard off. pete: a lot of collusion behind the scenes. rachel: now get to the shave part, right? it's with a knife. >> sure. pete: straight blade. rachel: we have emails while
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pete is getting shaved. email from julie, glad you had a nice vacation. if you need a vote on the beard i like seeing your face. actually it's a compliment. ed: patty emails you are too handsome to have that if you are on youthat furron your face. rick: rick a lion without a beard is like a lion without a mane. rick: can they keep it every time they say no. i don't get it frankly. rachel: pete used to be our all-american cute clean cut boy next door with stake looking -- now he looks awful. ed: phil glits pete looks like he walked out of a war meeting.
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president lincoln. rick: normally when you shave off vacation beard vacation now i have a goatee and super long tuesday attach. ed: we have a voyeur to do. pete: i'm looking to keep a mustache. rachel: don't leave it. ed: pete will be back in the show. media is pushing a new poll claiming trouble for the president. are the numbers misthreegd? what team trump is saying this morning? that's coming up. rachel: brett kavanaugh is president trump's supreme court nominee. what do people on the street actually know about him. >> do you know his name? >> no. >> anybody? >> no. >> do you know who that person is. >> neil kavanaugh. >> that sounds like a combination of both. >> a russian has a blade to
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ed: good morning again. quick headlines. they have gone from bitter primary foes to campaigning together. >> i have never met anybody that could lie like him. >> donald is a sore loser. >> lyin' ted. >> nominating donald trump is a train wreck. ed: president trump tweeting i will be doing a major rally for senator ted cruz in october. biggest stadium in texas we can find. beto o'rourke. it's turning out to be a closer race than many expected and former secretary of state john kerry refusing to squash rumors about his own white
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house ambitions in 2020. >> are you going to run in 2020. >> i'm not thinking about it right now. >> i hear the passion in your voice. >> i never retweeted or retired. talking about 2020 right now is a total distraction and waste of time. ed: waste of time. he didn't shut the door. he already won the democratic nomination in 2004 but lost the race to former president george w. bush. we will see if he gets back in. rachel: thousands gathered in detroit yesterday to pay their final respects to aretha franklin. ed: but for the reverend al sharpton the queen of soul's funeral was the perfect venue to, yes, go after the president. >> on my show i misspelled respect and a lot of y'all. [laughter] a lot of y'all corrected me. now i want to you help me correct president trump to teach him what it means. trump said she used to work for me. no, she used to perform for you. she worked for us.
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ed: here with his reaction executive director of unhyphenated america.org christopher harris. good morning, sir. >> good morning. ed: i'm watching a good part of this. it went on many hours. i couldn't watch the whole funeral i have to admit. it was a wonderful tribute to a wonderful woman american icon. beautiful songs and of course wonderful music and a lot of wonderful eulogies including by former president bill clinton. why in the world would somebody have to drag in the president and use this as a venue to beat up on the commander-in-chief? >> i heard the ringling brothers barnum and baileys circus went out in may and al sharpton was trying to turn into circus event. aretha franklin is an icon and that's how she should be remembered and not allowing people like al sharpton to use this as an opportunity to take shots at the president. what the president is doing is actually helping america in general and flack folks
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in particular. why take shots at the president instead of just honoring aretha franklin. >> why not use this opportunity to bring people together she was an american icon. right? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, she comes from an era where, she grew up in a city that was very segregated. my family is from detroit. my families grew up around the corner from aretha franklin's family. they can tell you what detroit was like back then. still yet people like aretha franklin they still loved america whether it was james brown or other singers like that. they traveled around the world but they still talked about how much they loved america. and it's a shame that people like al sharpton wanted to take shots and try to denigrate the american president in a place where there was no need for it there was no calling for it. ed: you rightly point out civil rights, the importance of that, and pushing back against discrimination in this country. so then why in the world would louis farrakhan be up there sitting a couple seats away from a former american president when everybody
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knows he is anti-semite says absolutely absurd offensive things all the time. >> well, as far as i'm concerned, there was only one man of god up there on stage and that was referenced williams who actually got the most flack for speaking the word. i'm a christian and so i like -- the church i attend we believe the bible and we believe that you speak the word regardless of where you are. and so reverend williams caught a lot of flack for basically saying here are the problems that are there in the black community and here are the things that we need to do to address these things. and here he was the one that people didn't want to talk about. or they talked about him but in a negative way whereas you had someone like farrakhan who he i he is espouss separation and is he basically a racist. sit next together a cheryl next.
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ed: we are over two months away from one of the high les most anticipated mid terms in recent history, maybe american history. what are. so critical races that will decide the balance of power in congress. rachel: here to break it down jim mclaughlin of mclaughlin and associates. thank you for being here. >> good morning. thank you and good morning. ed: we hear you have got to flip 23 seats democrats in the house in order to take the house majority. what are some of the key races and where do you think they are right now in terms of flipping? >> the interesting part about that just as you mentioned, it's only 23 seats. it's not a lot of seats. and when you think about historically, the party out of power usually picks up at least 30 seats during out midterm elections. you think about during barack obama's first term, the republicans picked up 63
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seats. so that's what makes it very difficult. probably about 40, 45 seats across the country that, you know, folks are looking at as toss-ups. i know that two of the ones that kind of define the races you look at pennsylvania 8 right now where you have, you know, fitzpatrick running as the republican. one of those districts that's in the philadelphia suburbs. very interesting. where i think and they have actually redistricted that district a little bit. so it's made it a little bit tougher for the republicans. rachel: yeah. >> a lot of those are suburban type districts toss-up. rachel: california is one to watch california 3. >> california 39 ed royce is retiring from that seat. republicans are really excited about their candidate kim young a vietnamese american. and gil cisneros won a mega lottery for over $200 million. rachel: she can win it. >> she can win it. it's about a third asian, about a third hispanic and
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about a third of white voter. so it's really a microcosm of what's going on right now. republicans are real excited because she is a candidate who they think really fits the district. ed: what about the senate some talk about wait a second it might not be the dems taking it back but about the republicans expanding majority. >> i think given today the republican also probably pick up seats in the senate there is a couple races that are going on in the senate where i look at somebody like a joe manchin in west virginia where donald trump won west virginia by over 40 points. what's also made it really hard on whether it's joe manchin or clair mccaskills or bill nelsons, they are trying to run independent democrats. they are not crazy wild eyed liberals you are seeing in a lot of these came out of primaries. but the probable they have, they voted against tax relief. a lot of them voted against neil gorsuch for the judgeship and they voted to continue obamacare.
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rachel: makes it hard. really quick, tell us what's going on in florida. >> in florida, i think put a real monkey wrench into the democrats' plan because when rick scott decided to run, is he really popular, been a very successful governor. created a lot of jobs. people have given him a lot of credit. the democrats are dumping about $50 million in there to try to save bill nelson. ed: now they have a big governor's race as well. thank you for coming. in fbi arresting five suspects from extremist compound just days after three of them were cleared of charges on a technicality. the next guest says they need to make sure they stay behind bars for good. rachel: this is what pete used to look like but he has lost his vacation beard. the big reveal next ♪ (male speaker) we know about that trail that never ends.
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>> i gave an interview yesterday to bloomberg. i quay totally off-the-record. you saw it i said off-the-record and think said they were violating. it's unbelievable what's happening with the fake news. >> i think today what's happened is news reporting has become part of the adversary system. >> the pressure is on our neighbors to the north. >> i love canada but they have taken advantage of our country for many years. i even love their national anthem called, very appropriately o canada. would you like me to sing it? >> doj officials told congressional investigators this week about a july 2016 breakfast with a former british spy behind the trump dossier. >> he omitte uh-oh mitted in his
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filings at the department of justice that his wife was getting paid for composing the dossier. >> judicial watch uncovered no fisa court hearings took place on former trump campaign associate carter page. >> astonishing and disturbing these courts couldn't bother to hold hearings on spy warrants targeting donald trump. >> you decided not to shave. pete: yeah, i took a vacation a couple of weekends, you know, let's grow it out. let it happen. america is growing a beard. why can't we? ♪ rachel: america is grow ago beard and now america is taking the beard off. pete is starting this hour clean shaven how do you feel, pete? pete: i feel normal because usually i am clean shaven on the show. rachel: does it feel soft. pete: corporate back at work. i wanted my vacation to continue. i wanted to feel like i was in the woods. i went camping on my vacation. rachel: yes, you did. pete: my kid is in the
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hospital. is he fine. don't worry about it. rachel: looks great clean shaven. ed: thumbs up or thumbs down clean shaven for that i will give you the gift. congratulations. pete: what is this? ed: scott flynn wrote a book about the president. turn it around it's a donald trump achievement award. pete: president trump accomplishment award making america great. it's a participation award? you got the joke which is that he gave it to me scott flynn he wrote a book. pete: can i give it to myself. ed: next time we have a competition you will get a competition medal. pete: new america. as long as you were pate you get a medal. rachel: clean shaven pete or grow it back out again in honor of coming up next or something. pete: let us know.
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ed, thank you. you are always very nice. ed: thanks for participating and we is a lot of news. pete: thanks for being here this morning. ed: another revelation about bruce ohr and officials at the justice department and the fbi it keeps on rolling. in fact, judicial watch has found court filings, a conservative group that figured out when it came to carter page former trump campaign advisor only there for a hot minute by the way but was surveilled for a whole lot longer, it turns out that the fisa court rubber stamped the renewal so that there were no hearings to actually go through and find out was this justified to spy on an american yes or no? pete: it's not a process we know a whole lot about. thanks to judicial watch and their work we are learning more as ed said about how quickly it happened and how little oversight there was. this is tom fitton last night on hannity show talking about carter page. listen. >> to me, it's astonishing and disturbing that these courts couldn't bother to hold hearings on spy warrants targeting donald
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trump. it isn't about carter page. it's about the trump campaign. these courts that are supposed to provide oversight of the secret spy process refused to do so. we have got the courts falling asleep at the wheel here and, of course, have you got the underlying corruption of the doj and fbi. and the leadership of the justice department and fbi are completely out to lunch in terms of highlighting and exposing and holding those accountable, responsible for that corruption. rachel: tom fitton brings up a great point. if you listen to the other networks. they talk a lot about carter page as this minor figure. no, this is an administration the obama administration spying on an opposition party in the middle of a presidential campaign. this is unheard of. this is bombshell information. and truly, in it wasn't for judicial watch and sara carter and catherine herridge, we would know nothing about this.
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pete: that's right. the system is predicated on integrity on the belief what's coming before the judge is being presented in good faith by the doj and fbi. if they are not revealing the poison tree source of their information, oh, by the way my wife is a russian expert and works for fusion gps. he had thread is a conflict of interest with bruce ohr that was not disclosed to the fisa court judge. rachel: we also learned from bruce ohr that he gave information of the dossier to weissmann and he is now on the special counsel. ed: a deputy to robert mueller. rachel: that's right. ed: tom fitton what he nailed as well he was saying that it appears that top officials at the justifiable department and fbi were out to lunch. so to be fair and balanced we brought new a former justice department official last hour ian pryor to respond to all of this. here is he giving basically jeff sessions, the attorney general his side of the story. here it is. >> what usually happens is the doj lawyers the national security division engage in a bit of back and forth with
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the court, with the staff of the court to make sure that the application is buttoned up and passes court muster before they submit it. that takes the place of a hearing. i think it's something we should look at. should there be hearings. should there be more oversight and protections? i think we have that debate in the coming months. ed: i think he is a fair guy and man of integrity. the fact he keeps saying well, we got to look into this. well, there is a process here. let's get some answers. pete: answers the mead de classification of this process. done. the president of the united states has the power and authority to do it. he will and you should protect sources and methods. we have seen so much of the redactions that have come from documents assume to be politically motivated. de classify this stuff. rachel: i couldn't agree more. pete: get to the bought of
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it. rachel: wonder why he hasn't done that already. i keep hearing if sessions doesn't do something i'm going to get involved. i'm going to get involved. pete people means it's he is going to fire mueller or sessions i think it means is he going to declassify. ed: doesn't fit the media native to be talking about bruce ohr and fbi and justice department problems. let's just talk about donald trump and his campaign in 2016. well, we also heard in the last 24 to 48 hours, look, interest may be more indictments coming from robert mueller. well, we didn't really hear. pete: wasn't chuck todd supposed to have a big for yesterday. come on, chuck, what's up? ed: in the absence of some major news development, you have these stories sort of laying out there poll numbers, what's going on. so abc news and "the washington post" put out a poll on impeachment proceedings against the president. my point is over holiday weekend this is the kind of story that's leading all kinds of web sites, newspapers that you pick up. and, according to this poll, 49% of the american people
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think impeachment proceedings should begin against the president, 46% do not. but then you look at behind the numbers. rachel: a little problem. ed: this poll might not be on the up and up. pete: media aren't always the way they should be. president pointing out as he does on twitter saying the abc "the washington post" poll was by farther least accurate one two weeks out from 2016 calling out what happened then. i call it a suppression poll. by election day they brought us out of shame to about even. they will never learn. rachel: what's the president talking about? brad pascal the campaign manager for donald trump's 2020 presidential campaign says this. he says this is #total fake news. the poll is junk. only 25% g.o.p. , too he says random adults, not voters, possibly not even citizens. three, questions written to reinforce bias, data scam, just like 2016. we are used to seeing this
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where the polls don't reflect. pete: break that down. what happens behind the scenes of a poll really does matter. ed: who are you talking to, and when he says 25% g.o.p. he is saying out of 100 percent, obviously, in that poll, only 25% of the people were republicans. so, of course, 75% are some combination of democrats. you are more likely to get a negative number from the president. pete: producers did a great job running down what fox news poll does. high 40%, high 40%, low 40% democrats. use registered voters random sampling the democrats and independence that say we want the president impeached. ed: not even registered or likely voters. pete: credibility, so-called mainstream media is so low. they want to say facts are apples and apples are apples except they will run with the poll that they know the methodology is bad and
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pretend like it is bad. ed: oh contrar chuck todd nbc. here is chuck todd. >> one of the misstakes we in the mainstream media made false allegations for us being biasside we started to believe maybe we are biased and oh, wait, we can't look biased we created a lot of false equivalency issues. >> yes. >> okay? it looks to me like silicon valley is about to fall into that trap. ed: talking about dealing with allegations social media tilts to the left like the mainstream media. i think the answer to it is to actually do a better job and actually be fair. pete: or actually hire a conservative or two. even the head of twitter acknowledging there is left leaning cosmopolitan bias in silicon valley. ed, you have been in these numerous a lot more than i the balance of liberals to conservatives out of control. ed: absolutely. rachel: everywhere has a bias. ed: chuck recently blamed fox news for this.
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he is saying fox news is the problem. when fox news and roger ailes and said a lot of people in the media were biased people in the media didn't push back hard enough. the answer is really not to fight with fox news or not. it's to do a good job. rachel: do a better job. ed: be fair and balanced pete pete have a better product. rachel: look like all this fake news stuff has gotten under chuck's skin a little bit. we are going to turn now to headlines, services continue in washington, d.c. today for the late senator and war hero john mccain. his family, including his mother roberta and wife cindy paying their final respects to john mccain who is the 30th person to lie in state in the u.s. capitol rotunda. >> dear friend whose smile reminded us that service is a privilege and whose scars remind dollars us of the great cost that brave souls paid for our freedom. rachel: later this hour, we have a live report from the vietnam memorial where mccain's family will honor his life ahead of a ceremony
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at the national cathedral. ed: national guard troops meanwhile will stay on the southwest border for at least another year, james mattis authorizing up to 4,000 guardsmen to continue supporting agents nearly 2200 troops already deployed. the operation began in april as democrats call for in-n-out burger boycott over political donations. one republican is turning the table. state senator phil williams urging the popular burger change to bring its product to alabama. williams tweeting hey in-n-out burger come on to alabama. we love burgers and we love #republicans. kentucky senator rand paul also getting in on the fun tweeting a photo of himself eating an in-n-out burger. and those are your headlines. those burgers are really good. pete: he must have been fundraising. ed: college football is kicking off go down to alabama, you will sell a lot of burgers. pete: love it all five
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suspects tied to extremist radical islamic extremist mexico compound back in federal custody this morning just days after three of them were cleared of charges. our next guest is a special agent with the fbi says the feds need to make sure they stay behind bars for good. ed: cheerleaders have been fighting for years to show banners can bibl verse with bib. ♪ it isn't always pretty ♪ it's the way we were made ♪ we wouldn't have it any other way ♪
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thankfully back in federal custody. the fbi rearresting the alleged muslim extremists for violating federal firearms and conspiracy laws. this just days after a judge dropped multiple charges against three of the suspects and actually released them from jail. here with his reaction, former u.s. army ranger, fbi terror task force special agent chad jenkins. good morning, chad. >> good morning, ed. ed: good to see you there are two judges here who are not going to win a lot of hearts and minds in america i suspect this morning. a second judge a couple days back after prosecutors had made ridiculous almost clerical error decided to not correct that error and allow these folks back out on the streets. how ridiculous was that? >> very ridiculous, failure on the prosecutors, the local prosecutors, as well as the judicial system to not find and to hold these individuals. there was exigent circumstances. thank got the fbi and doj
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came in at the u.s. attorney's office level to bring these charges. they most-likely were the most expeditious charges they could bring federally against these five individuals in order to pluck them off the street and put them in u.s. federal custody where they belong. ed: i mentioned two judges. the first judge as i recall a few weeks back basically let some of them out -- some of the suspects even basically saying we are not sure how much of a danger they were to the kids and whatnot when as i recall there was a 3-year-old boy who died in their care so they clearly were a danger and there were court documents oh by the way that said that one of these suspects was talking about jihad. >> correct. i mean, their end goal was to conduct terrorist attacks using these children that's what the prosecutors alleged at the local level. so, if that's the case, i would expect to see terrorist enhancement charges brought against these individuals at the federal level. material support to conduct a terrorist attack.
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conspiracy to conduct a terrorist attack. so, look for that in the coming days and weeks on this case. ed: obviously we need to be fair innocent until proven guilty. this is going to go forward. we will figure out what all this was. also, sometimes people can exaggerate that they were planning school shootings and doing all these things and maybe hopefully turn out it's not the case. given your vast experience, how dangerous do you think these suspects are and were? >> ed, there is plenty of evil in the world. there is no shortage of evil here in the united states. i think the intent that they had falling the strict adherent ideology would lead me to believe that violence was on their mind. how do we overcome that violence? well, we overcome that violence with sharing the love and truth of jesus. that's what needs to happen more. what is the truth? you know, truth is that, you know, love does not delight in evil but it rejoices in the truth. and what do we look at for
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truth? john 14:6, jesus said i am the way and truth and the life. only through me do you get to the heavenly father. we need to have a spiritual battle to share the good news of jesus christ there is too much evil and that needs to be done by all of us who are believers. ed: chad, we appreciate you bringing the spiritual dimension but also the terror dimension about how serious this was and is and by the way, we should thank the fbi and justice department. we talk about abuses there. but, in this case as you pointed out at the top, you had some agents who jumped in and actually helped the situation. thanks, chad, for pointing that out. >> yep. have a good one, ed. ed: be afraid says james clapper. the former intel director says the walls are closing in on the president. really? dan bongino joins us live. he has an interesting response. brett kavanaugh is president trump's supreme court nominee. what if people out on the street know? we sent pete to the street to find out. what. >> do you know his name? >> no. >> no. >> anybody? do you know who that person is?
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court justice. rachel: so as judge brett kavanaugh heads to the hill for confirmation pete heads to the street to see if the people in new york could name the nominee. pete: president chose brett kavanaugh he will be facing questions from the senate this week. pete: we didn't hit the street we hit outside of fox news channel. he had didn't go far. ed: why am i part of this? rachel: that same look. pete: which one is his pick? >> that one in the corner. pete: do you know his name? >> no. >> anybody? do you know who president trump picked to be on the supreme court? >> brett kavanaugh. pete: could you pick him out of a line-up? >> no. that one. >> first name? >> judge kavanaugh.
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pete judge kavanaugh, can you pick him out of this lineup right there. do you know who that nominee is. >> no yz. [buzzer] >> do you know who that person is. >> neil kavanaugh. [buzzer] pete: that sounds like a combination of both. >> i know the guy. pete: you know the guy? >> yeah. pete: can you name any of these justices? pete: sotomayor. >> john roberts, clarence thomas, ruth bader againstburg. oh my gosh, you put me on the spot right now. now. >> elena something. pete: elena kagan give you that one. anthony something or another. pete: no idea? >> no. what's his name? you know all these. i can't believe it. you don't know who this guy is, do you? ed, i'm sorry, just drawing blanks out here. >> fox news guy. pete: ed, that's your new name. >> that's ed henry.
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pete: you got ed henry? >> yeah. pete: ed, one for 20. ♪ ed: waited a second one for 20? there were two or three people. pete: 40. rachel: fox news guy could be your next name. i kind of like it. i don't think they were that -- jay walking with jay leno the people know nothing. pete: we went out there thinking -- it underscores how much people are actually paying attention special fox viewers. they knew who brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch. ed: the guy who said neil kavanaugh can i sympathize mix up the names. pete: folks are watching. they are paying attention. pete: by the way the beard looked good on the street. pete: kind of a street look. ed: maybe you should have stayed with it. i wonder if you will have regret. pete: i have a lot of regrets in my life. rachel: walls are closing in on trump. dan bongino responds next.
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service to our one tri. ed: his wife cindy paying tribute toe veterans memorial in washington. rachel: jennifer has more on today's ceremony. >> good morning, rachel, ed, pete. >> plan is for the family to escort the body of senator john member contain from the capital 8:45 eastern. make their way down constitution avenue. the hearse will pause here at the vietnam memorial behind me so his wife cindy can lay wreath at the base of the memorial that was so very important to senator mccain. the family will file past used to be said senator mccain would come here early in the morning several times a week to get inspiration from the more than 58,000 names on the wall behind me. he recognized that these
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were the real heroes of vietnam. it was also said that senator john mccain fell in love with his country inside that vawms prison cell. we have heard tribute after tribute this week from his fellow pows from charlie plumb from, john furr from jim pet jerry who al bet betten. tap on the walls and send messages to each other. senator mccain always liked to talk about sports and they would tap out at the end of each of these messages gbu. seven for g two for b god bless you for each of those messages. pay final respects here at the vietnam memorial on his way to the service national cathedral at 9:00 p.m. this morning. >> bret: that's really
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moving. one of the eulogies in phoenix. one of senator mccain's former aides was talking about the story he told about one of the guards who let him out for a brief time when he was being tortured. he later came out and in the dirt outside the prison made the sign of a cross with his sandal this vietnamese guard to show he believed in god as well. that's why he was trying in harsh circumstances to be gentle with senator mccain. pete: also fitting to be at the vietnam war memorial. people have talked about how his service in the senate was his second most important service he has ever had. and that changes an individual when they feel like they are sort of unbridled to pursue something. not their only passion is the senate. he went through so much and that informed a lot of his career. ed: let's bring in our friend dan bongino who also served this country as we reflect on the life and legacy of senator mccain and go through various stories in washington about how we can't seem to get to the truth. how we can't seem to get
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accountability. something senator mccain was -- when he would call high officials before the senate armed services committee to get answers, he demanded answers and many times got them about what was going on with our troops. what was going on with the surge in iraq. and it seems to me when it comes to bruce ohr and some other officials in the government right now we can't seem to get answers. we can't seem to get accountability. >> ed, the problem with this case, the entire spy gate case is that sole complicketded people have a tough time de still it down to what the real scandal is scandal revealed by judicial watch show there wasn't a hearing in the fisa court for these charges really should boil this down for americans. here is what happened here. you have a fake dossier, gathered by a guy paid by the clinton team to gather information on the trump team. let's be crystal clear on that. the dossier is fake. nothing in it that's of any significance has ever been verified. it then filters its way into an american court system
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used to spy on terrorists by the way it filters its way into a court system to spy on barack obama and hillary clinton's political opponent donald trump. and now we find out that there wasn't even a hearing? that donald trump's fourth amendment right to privacy, let me get this straight, was signed away with, what? a bi bic pen and swearing this stuff was true when it wasn't? this is the scandal here. ed, explain to me in common sense rational terms, please. how this is any different than the kind of stuff that happens in police state i don't think you can. rachel: i agree with you. the media is not interested there are very few reporters on this beat, frankly, and we are getting it piece by piece by piece. if we had gotten this information all at once, maybe there would be more shock. we are having to piece it all together. is that part of the problem? >> rachel, yes, it is, making it worse, the media
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is doubling it down. it's not just that they are not interested in collusion. what do you say they are not interested in collusion? they talk about it all the time. no they are not. they are interested in fake collusion. x file low lucien. trump team nobody can prove happen after two years of investigating there was collusion here. it's now crystal clear. it's clear that the fusion g.p.s. team, the clinton team, and entities within the intelligence community, justice, and the fbi, the department of justice clearly colluded to spy on the -- on donald trump's team. remember, when he get a fisa warrant, rachel, this is important to spy on someone, if i were to spy on you, they have what's called the two hop rule. maybe i not only get your stuff, i get who you email and someone else after that. can i get the whole network. that's the problem. pete: you say it's becoming chris call clear. not crystal clear to james clapper former obama administration official. he said on another network it's all closing in. listen.
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>> the volume and the -- to me, racialght of some o rationaf some of the things he is saying in his tweets at least tell me that the walls are kind of crashing in on him. and i just think that more and more is legally thinking he feels like is he in jeopardy. pete: dan, we are living in alternate universes here. on one level you say why we are uncovering the biggest scandal of the investigators in their world the walls are closing in on trump. talk to me about this. >> yeah. this is a classic liberal media tactic, right? whatever you are guilty of, deflect and distract by accusing your pondz of the same things. jim clapper is knee deep in this quagmire. let's be clear what he did. he was the dni when all of this intelligence exchange from foreign intelligence operations to the united states about donald trump was going on. by the way, according to devin nunes, not even
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through official channels, secondly, most importantly, january, right before donald trump stepping into office. the media is looking for a hook to report on the dossier. they don't have it. why, pete? because it's not true. so they don't want to liberal the dossier. so clapper tells jim comey to go and brief donald trump on it right before he gets into office. the story in the media, because the dossier is false, but to get it into the media becomes the briefing about the dossier not the dossier itself. which forces everyone else to say well, what's in the dossier? really a jeepous move now disturbing it was by operatives. if i had a nickel for every time the walls were closing in i would be a qua quadrillionaire. pete: stay tuned tomorrow we may have a monday teenage. rachel: still haven't
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figured out why americans voted for donald trump. >> last week was a tidal wave of bad news for this presidency. the president's approval rating stayed the same. i wonder if that's not going to move the needle is this john mccain thing going to move the needle? >> if we can find or do find the president's constant lying or lawlessness or reprehensible behavior morally unacceptable. a lot of people vote pretty selfishly and they say what's going to give me more money in my pocket? >> or what's going to keep or make abortion illegal or make sure my second amendment rights stay the same. adds up to something president has something akin to 40% electorate in polls. it's fascinating to us. rachel: fascinating. how dare the american voter vote in their best financial interest. dan. ed: shocking. >> i could talk about this all day. in the interest of time. on a very serious note. there are american dads and moms been sitting on the couch for the last 8 years
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watching fox and cable news and have been seeing what the democrats, the diminishment of america on the world stage, taking of people's money and destroying of their healthcare and do you know what they have been saying to their kids. looking at their kids, johnny, that ain't us. that's not me. that's not mom. that's not what we stand for. and the reason americans voted for donald trump because donald trump is the first candidate to step up in a long time from outside the swamp who said, you know what? i may not be perfect but i am not these guys. i'm not them. and someone looked at their kid and said, you know what? that's my guy. the media makes absolutely no effort whatsoever to understanding heart land america and people who work for a living and that, if you had a reason number one why people voted for donald trump, that's it. he is not those guys. what about the beginning indictments and plea deals at them. john mccain flap. maybe that will go after him.
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basically saying we would like to politicize, you know, the back and forth with mccain family which is shocking in and of itself. broader speaking, it's, you know, we threw this at him and it's not working. we threw that at them. what will it take, dan, to bring him down. that's what i'm hearing. >> it's not going to work. most of the american people who support donald trump see this fight completely differently than the media does. it's a mentality for a lot of them. they are defending the guy who searched didding them. what they don't understand is they understanding the media's role in propagating a lot of these myths about donald trump, the collusion stuff and all these other fairy tales, there is a siege mentality. the fact the numbers are right there the approval rating isn't going down. the media isn't making making any eferlt to understand why. pete: that's right. if they hate him this much he must be on to something ultimately. you are right. that's why the reinforcements remain. dan bongino, lots of clarity. appreciate it this morning. rachel: thank you.
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dan, nice seeing you. ed: it's been weeks since the dnc launched their probe into abuse claims into keith ellison. one of their deputies. but they have not said a word sings. doesn't the public deserve to know what's going on? what happened to transparency? pete: that's right. conservatives are being censored on social media. and now google is pushing liberal news outlets to the top of their search results. that secret algorithm, is there a solution to balancing things out? we'll answer that question ♪ we're just blowing smoke ♪ hey, yeah ♪ [ screams ] ♪ [ laughs ] ♪ whoa, whoa, whoa. your one item would be the name your price tool? it helps people save on car insurance. why wouldn't it save me? why? what would you bring?
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tom perez refusing to give any details. >> the minnesota democratic party is conducting a very thorough investigation and a very prompt investigation and i'm confident that that review will be completed in the near future and i think it's important to do it. pete: not very prompt. why hasn't the public heard any information yet? stephanie hammel is a video journalist for the daily caller. she joins me now. allegations came out against keith ellison. is he running for attorney general in minnesota. he is the deputy -- is he a congressman. deputy chair of the dnc about physical abuse allegations. something the me too movement and others should take very seriously. everyone should take seriously. we are not hearing anything. what's happening? >> pete, you said very little information and that's correct. but there is also very little interest. you would think that the me too movement people, the women's march, the democrat
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leadership, you think they would be speaking out about this. you would think that this would be enough to generate the protests across the country where people are storming the streets in their pink clothing and their silly hats. but, for some reason it seems like the people accused happen to be democrats, then it is they are victims that aren't really believed. the dnc has been investigating this for a couple weeks now. they are not giving out any information. the daily caller has reached out multiple times through email, through phone calls and pretty much the dnc is stonewalling. pete: yeah, i'm from minnesota originally. minnesota democrats, there is a sense inside minnesota what happened to al franken was unfortunate and they don't want it to happen again to another prominent democrat. is this really a closing of the ranks to protect one of their own? >> well, it looks like it. so, the dnc knew about the allegations against alison
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for some time. they didn't release a statement about it until just a few hours before he won his primary for attorney general in minnesota. and there were several other qualified democratic candidates, including a woman. they could have given them a chance to move forward in this race. and so instead, they released a statement just a couple hours before and it's hard not to believe that this wasn't calculated. they didn't want to hurt his campaign. and like i said. these allegations are extremely serious. and extremely disturbing. i mean, his exgirlfriend karen monahan a liberal activist for the sierra club. she is accusing him of not only emotionally abusing her but physically abusing her. he is being accused of dragging her out of a bed. and apparently there is video of this. she hasn't released the video. she has witnesses which are her sons. this is pretty damaging stuff for the democratic party. and i guess what really bothers me is the hypocrisy. so, the democrats they claim that they're the champions of women and they are the
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big proponents of this me too movement. and they will jump on any conservative who is accused of anything. yet, and, you know, they are against due process in this sense. everyone deserves due process. that's why i have a big problem with the me too movement is that goes out the door. if you are a democrat. for some reason the dnc wants to continue their investigation. the high profile democrats aren't answering and they are diverting back to this investigation so they don't have to talk about it. pete: we have been told time and time again that the victim should be believed which is a statement you want fairly applied across every situation if that's your standard. stephanie, thank you very much. we reached out to the dnc and minnesota group conducting the review for a statement. we have not heard back. if we get one, we will let you know. again, thanks again, stephanie. click carefully if you searching for news on google. new study says they will likely get answers from predictable liberal sources. is there a way to balance
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fairness and perception of fairness in reporting. here's an example of research that will be actually concluded august the 9th. it will be coming out very shortfully a report that verifies indeed that of 14 of the top results, 79% of them are from predominantly left leaning organizations. and their answer to that is hey, well, that's what people are clicking on. really? well, you know, show us more specific data. ted. ed: tech giants are all about transparency. >> are they? ed: they say they are. >> how do friends show up on facebook feed? ed: i don't know. >> they choose not to tell us and show us. ed: this research is misleading because it relies on a tiny sample size of just 168 participants compared with millions who use the product every day. we never rank results based on political sentiment or ideology. that's what google says.
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>> that's google's statement right now that's google also saying that hey, we are trying to be fair but if you really wanted to be fair, you would put your algorithm out there or at least if you say. rachel: allow government regulators look at it? >> let someone we can all trust have a look at how you're coming up with these results so that we can believe you. i don't believe what's on facebook. i don't believe what's on google. i don't believe that any of us have any power over what we see anymore. i think it's all up to the sirdwizards in silicon valley u. pete: happy to see them on the list. >> i'm relieved pete's beard is gone. bring it back. pete: good to see you. appreciate it man. collin kaepernick is back. and getting a standing ovation ed saw it personally. why the man who kicked off the kneeling protest is
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and some of them traveled from as far as away as california to say goodbye. there were a lot of international tourists in the line as well as for today, a motorcade will soon take senator mccain to the washington national cathedral for this memorial service with music, including america the beautiful and readings from former president george w. bush, former president barack obama and former secretary of state henry kissinger. pallbearers are going to include former senator gary hart, warren beatty and michael bloomberg. additional guests include former president bill clinton and hillary clinton. former vp al gore and former congresswoman gabriel gifford from arizona. there will going to be visiting dignitaries from ukraine, georgia estonia and nato's leader and seven former american prisoners of war are on the guest list as well. this is a global event. and it is a private invitation only ceremony but the guest list reveals that the room is going to be packed with political allies and rivals from different stages of mccain's decades
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long career as the other events for the last few days honoring the senator have been as well. security is very, very tight throughout this entire northwest washington, d.c. area. there are officers and police cars and agents on every street corner for several blocks, we do expect to see the program start about two hours from right now and they just opened the door so that a long line of mourners can start to go in and get ready. back to you. pete: alpete. ed: all right, peter doocy starting off our hour. now we pivot to mark steyn. >> like the president says he loves canada and canadians we canadians have been totally ripping you off for years. ever since we burned down the white house. pete: president just tweeted i love canada but they have taken advantage of our country many beers. headlines have been
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dominated that the president made comments about negotiations referring to canada. he thought they were off-the-record to bloomberg. bloomberg somehow got them to the toronto star. toronto star printed them. what do you make first of the off-the-record piece and second negotiations with canada? >> look, i think realistically, they are absolutely -- the president is absolutely right. he has done -- i fell off my chair laughing during that rally where he announced that he had replaced nafta with a u.s.-mexico trade agreement. because i was thinking hang on, now a third country in there. and i said on the radio in toronto, i think, the week before, but as these u.s. mexico negotiations were proceeding, don't worry, it always looks very nice to have justin trudeau at the signing ceremony. is he a nice clean-shaven well acuted young man it's nice to have him at the ceremony. i'm sure they will invite limb to the ceremony. that's basically what the
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u.s. and mexico have done. rachel: standing up for american dairy. canadians have 300 percent tariff on dairy affects states where i li like wisconsin. people accuse the president of being anti-free trade what he really wants is free trade but for everyone involved. >> actually, is he standing up there, i will -- small points rachel standing up for anglo canadians, the whole canadian dairy market favor quebec. if you go to vancouver and go to the supermarket your court of milk actually comes from thousands of miles away from quebec because of that rigged market. actually, one of the great things about trump is as a human being he says things nobody else in human history has pointed out before. and actually just doing that, he slipped the skids into canadian faulted line
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of politics. rachel: we might have canadians rooting for donald trump. >> on the prairies, in the rockies, in the maritimes, they will all be i will say this about the president. that clip he showed at the top of the last hour, 7:00, where he said i love canada, i even know the name of their national anthem. o canada. he actually pronounced it in a way -- the right way oh canada, i will sing it for you. i waited all my life for a u.s. president to stand up and say lbj, nixon, carter, none of them have ever said it and god bless president trump for that. pete: you put your finger on something which is what he said these off-the-record comments don't seem that controversial. whipped up. i'm doing pretty good in this trade deal, canada, we have to find something like a fig leaf for them because i won this round. >> right. you have a lot of people in the mainstream media here in
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america almost like a sociological experiment who is this guy donald trump and who are these voters, exactly? why did they vote for him? watch this montage. >> last week was a tidal wave of bad news for this presidency. and this president and his approval rating stayed the same. so i wonder, i mean, if that's thought going to move the needle, is this john mccain thing going to move the needle? >> while we could find or do find the president's constant lying or lawlessness or reprehensible behavior morally unacceptable? a lot of people vote pretty selfishly and say what is going to give me more money in my pocket. >> or what's going to keep or make abortion illegal or make sure my second amendment rights stay the same. clearly that adds up to people 40% of the electorate in polls it's fascinating to us. ed: we keep looking at that why are people happy that there is more money in their pockets. >> it's what pete said about
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an ultimate universe. i think, i mean, to me, they put in morality terms. and actually what to me is morally reprehensible is what was done to carter page, as dan bongino was saying there is absolutely no difference between what was done to him and what's done in police state. what's disgusting is what was done to this papadopoulos guy who was basically set up on foreign soil. a nothing little guy, is he like a nobody. and the forces of the most powerful government on earth. inside, deep inside the bureaucracy determined to destroy his life. we have classic one party state tactics going here where what happened in 2016 the state and the party merged so in the interest of the hillary clinton campaign and most powerful law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the government
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merged that's absolutely disgusting where is the moral outraging from these ntsb, cnn guys there. >> have they diverged since president trump has taken hold or still have as the president has accused a little bit in the doj the same old thing going on covering up those misdeeds? >> no, they haven't. and that's what's in. i have been doing a lot of canadian triumphalism, have you six week election campaigns. the last one in canada was 12 weeks and everyone to have the three month transition of power australia has 150 second transition of power. they toppled the prime minister last week. the new guy gets to freshmannefreshenup in the men'. 20 minutes suit to nuts. here have you three month transition of power and the
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permanent bureaucracy up until the stroke of midday on january the 20th was using that undermine and de stabilize. >> mark, that's never happened before in american history. >> no. it's outrageous. >> those months were used in that way. it's nothing to do with foreign interference in the u.s. election. it's domestic interference in the u.s. election which is far more serious. ed: i have got the answer for you. the person who might be able to fix all of this. john kerry says he is not rolling out a run for president in 2020. not like his focus but he can't quite close the door. watch. >> are you going to run in 2020? >> i'm not thinking about it right now. >> but i hear the passion in your voice. >> i never retweeted or retired. talking about 2020 right now is a total distraction and waste of time. pete: hear the passion. ed: is the wind surfing being warmed up. >> thank you, ed, at 8:00 in the morning what i really
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like to think about is john kerry and yellow light orders. bring it on, baby. that's the winning formula for 2020 right there. pete: how great is the 2020 merrmerry-go-round going to be on the democratic side? >> we are like two years out and they are committed to abolishing ice. that cuomo debate cynthia nixon i thought she had the betterment of him. that's actually how it's going to go. you are going to have cynthia nixon types dragging people more and more to the -- more and more to the left. and that's where the energy is on the party. and if it takes john kerry and his yellow light wind surfing, i don't like to think how far out he is in extreme left wing yellow light wind surf something not something america needs. ed: mark steyn.
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rachel: not a good look. thank you, mark. >> i can't handle this. rachel: baby face. thank you, mark, we have to turn to headlines right now. the fbi rearresting the muslim extremist accused of training kids to become school shooters at new mexico compound. all five with baracking firearm and conspiracy laws. three suspects released from custody on wednesday after prosecutors missed a deadline to present evidence, former fbi agent chad jenkins joined us earlier on the danger the suspects posed to the public. >> there's plenty of evil in the world. there's -- and there is no shortage of evil here in the united states. i think the intent that they had following the strict adherent ideology would lead me to believe that violence was on their mind. rachel: all five suspects will appear in court on tuesday. several ms-13 gang members could spend life behind bars for an armed robbery. a grand jury out of texas
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indicting five men with robbery conspiracy and a weapons violation. prosecutors say they disguised themselves before flashing guns and stealing money from a dallas store. one of the men admitting to being the leader of an ms-13 subgroup. betsy de vos is leaving it up to states and local districts to decide whether or not to arm teachers in schools. de vos telling lawmakers she has, quote: no intention of taking any action regarding the use of federal funding to buy guns and train teachers. at least nine states currently allow staff to carry firearms on school grounds. and those are your headlines. pete: thank you, rachel. moving on, john mccain is about to leave the capitol building for the final time as washington comes together to say their final goodbyes. john mccain's former campaign manager rick davis joins us live next. ed: we just talked about the fisa court bombshell throughout the morning that there were not any hearings on carter page and the surveillance. gregg jarrett says the
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ed: official washington coming together this morning to say a final goodbye to the late senator and war hero john mccain. rachel: later this hour his family will honor him at the vietnam memorial at the ceremony national cathedral. pete: here to reflect on the life of john mccain former campaign manager rick davis. rick, thank you very much for joining us this morning. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. pete: when you reflect back on 60 years of service. what's the most proud or telling moment, poignant moment of senator mccain's
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career that you would like to bring to people? >> well, you know, he has had a lot of moments in his career. i would say for myself, you know, his nomination speech at the republican convention in 2008 was a special moment. he had run an entire career that was on the line that year. and to finally become the nominee of the party, i know he held it as a great honor and certainly having worked in the trenches politically for the better part of 30 years, i saw it as stunning achievement for man to didn't expect to get much out of politics other than a good fight. he he was so excited about the prospect of potentially becoming commander-in-chief it was a special moment that night. rachel: you talk about the fight. what we are see something
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friendship. there is not enough conversation going on about how those friendships build trust and are really the foundation of how he was able to work across the line and be part of so many bipartisan policies and bills. >> well, you are so right. i mean, yesterday, we heard in the nation's capitol as he laid in state, you know, the stories that are legendary about the tough fights on the floor of the united states senate. but today is really his friends honoring him. the people you will see on the podium joe lieberman, lindsey graham and even both presidents. they became his friends and of course his family members, a window into his family life that you don't get to see too much. and even the officials behind the scenes, the paul bearers and others in the audience, these are the people that he called for dinner, have out to sedona for a weekend. his friends just happened to have big names but they were
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still his friends. >> rick, i told this story on the air see the senator oftentimes covering him in the senate. when i would walk up he would say ed henry, you jerk, what do you want to know? i suspect you got that biting sense of humor and sarcasm during the campaign during tough moments no doubt and you mentioned sedona as well. on a more serious note, talk about how he had to balance the final few months of your life can be very down time and whatnot. he received a lot of friends like you there how did he come to terms with all of this. it sounds like he was trying to be very positive and optimistic. >> he was always very positive. ed, as you said earlier, you know, if you were his friend, you got insulted. if you were not his friend, he said nice things about you. [laughter] it was the contrast with john mccain the better friend you were, the more insults you got. and so we got used to that. and but, you know, he was a
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much more reflective man this last six months. you know, he knew that ultimately this disease was going to claim him. he got beyond the idea that somehow, you know, he was going to beat it and he wanted to surround himself with people who he could talk about his legacy, talk about what happens next. i mean, he walls very focused on the future. this guy never looked backwards. even in his last few months of life, he was thinking about what can we do to leave the country a better place, even upon his death. that really brings us here today. ed: rick, we wish you and everyone around the mccain family well today as did you go through more difficult moments but also positive uplifting moments at the cathedral and beyond at the naval academy thank you very much for joining us. rachel: thank you, rick. >> thank you for having me. ed: another big story out of washington as we continue to follow the news checks and balances being called into question for getting approval for the dossier
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>> all right. all new bombshell in the russian investigation court filing uncovered by judicial watch unveiling that no fisa court hearings took place before they signed off on the controversial request to spy on trump campaign aide carter page. rachel: our next guest says the supreme court needs to get involved to prevent further fisa abuses. ed: joining me now gregg jarrett is joining us now fox news legal analyst and the author of the russia hoax. did i get that right? >> gregg: you got it right. the illicit seem clear hillary clinton and clear donald trump. ed: how would the supreme court get involved? this court, the fisa court is so secretive we really don't know how it works. how would the supreme court get it wrong? >> all 11 on the fisa court were appointed by chief john roberts. he is in charge. these judges were deceived and evidence concealed fraud was perpetrated on this court in the wiretap
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warrant. so, the chief justice, john roberts, should direct rosemary collier, the presiding judge of the fisc as it's known to hold a show cause hearing why these doj and fbi officials should not be held in contempt of court. and to make sure it's fair, appoint a special master to preside over that hearing to make it even more fair. appoint lawyers to represent the aggrieved parties and the people of the united states so that these judges and the special master will not be fooled yet again by the doj and the fbi. ed: they operate in secret. what are the chances they listen to you? >> that's why you need a special master. somebody who is neutral and fair and objectively look at the facts. we know that the fbi and the department of justice were using a source for those fisa warrants who was not credible, who had lied and been fired. they didn't tell the judges that they didn't tell the judges that hillary clinton paid for all of this.
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they didn't tell them that the department of justice officials' wife composed part of the dossier and that doj official bruce ohr was getting paid, that's potentially three different crimes. pete: do you anticipate we will get more clarity and transparency de classification of documents? is that possible? >> i think this week the president will de classify the documents congress wants. and then after the election jeff sessions will be fired and i would suggest somebody like john ratcliffe to replace him. ed: some news from gregg. we appreciate you coming. in looking live at the u.s. capitol. pete: ceremony to take john mccain's casket to the national cathedral is about to begin. our live team coverage continues coming up next. ♪ (male speaker) we know about that trail that never ends. we know the great outdoors. we love the great outdoors. bass pro shops and cabela's
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onto the vietnam memorial as you just heard. we have live team coverage with peter doocy. he is standing by right now at the national cathedral. we have jennifer griffin at the vietnam war memorial and chad pergram at the u.s. capitol. we begin with peter first though live outside the national cathedral. good morning, peter. >> good morning, ed, they opened up the doors to the national cathedral about 25 minutes ago so that a line of hundreds of mourners who were invited by the mccain family could start to file in. we have been watching that unfold over the last couple minutes. we have also seen a lot of suvs bringing the dignitaries in to the washington national cathedral. among them we are going to see president george w. bush. is he going to perform a reading. we are going to seat former president barack obama who will be reading as well. and the former secretary of state henry kissinger. we also expect to see pallbearers including the former new york city mayor michael bloomberg. the former senator gary hart
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and the actor warren beatty. also in the crowd but not participating in the service former president bill clinton, former secretary of state hillary clinton. former vice president al gore, and the former congresswoman gabriel giffords. there are also dignitaries here from ukraine from, georgia, from astonia, and from nato. there are seven former american prisoners of war on the guest list as well. so, that gets into why there is so much security but, also, like many of the other events this week is going to be a bipartisan event and it is going to be a global event. so we expect things to start here about an hour and a half from right now. but, mourners are coming in by the dozens to make sure that they have their spots staked out inside the washington national cathedral for the service. ed? ed: all right, peter, appreciate it special live coverage at the top of the hour as well led by bret baier and martha maccallum. we will be all over this story this morning.
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>> that's right. thousands of americans are already paying their final respects at the capitol rotunda. pete: our own chad pergram joins us live right now. >> final foments lying in state for john mccain, last moments here at the capitol. the family is just arriving to go into the capitol. u.s. honor guard will bring his casket down the steps. some people have come to pay their respects this morning i ran into tim walls democratic congressman from minnesota served a career in the army national guard. there is a lot of people outside the plaza at the capitol looking at this ceremony. yesterday, barry barack, the senate chaplain, he delivered the benediction. >> we praise you for permitting senator mccain to remind us that we are tied to a single garment of destiny needing one another to fulfill your purposes for
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our lives. >> now, yesterday at the capitol, there was a very poignant moment cindy mccain was escorted into the senate chamber by lindsey graham. mccain's best friend in the senate. she sat at her husband's desk, lindsey graham sat at his desk there was a bouquet of white roses. lindsey graham gave her two of the roses and she walked out. today he will read from the book of john, john 15:13. it goes like this greater love hath no man than this than a man lay down his life of his friends. ed: all right, chad pergram, we appreciate that report. we are trying to listen in and see what kind of natural sound we pick up. you can see the family gathering there to accept the casket as the motorcade will begin. pete: i think i recognized
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senator roy blunt from missouri. the top of the top dignitaries in washington, d.c. certainly gathering today to pay tribute. including the late senator's wife you just saw cindy will pay tribute at the vietnam veterans memorial in washington. rachel: jennifer griffin is there live with more on today's ceremony. jennifer? >> well, rachel, we expect for the hearse to make a brief stop here at the vietnam memorial about 9:00 a.m. on route to the national cathedral. senator mccain's wife cindy will get out of the vehicle and come and lay a wreath at the memorial behind me. we have seen well-wishers and mourners filing in all morning. we heard some young navy officers singing anchors away early this morning at dawn as they ran past. it's been an emotional moment here at the vietnam memorial. we expect them to be here just within the next half hour. back to you. ed: okay, jennifer,
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appreciate that report. sorry to interrupt you but you can see the casket now elsewhere in washington now back at the capitol, jennifer is over at the vietnam veterans memorial the casket being brought down by the honor guard down the capitol stepping for this moving ceremony. listen in carefully so we can see and hear some of this.
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ed: former colleague meghan mccain who has been so emotional throughout this series of events but also has been a rock of real strength. rachel: absolutely. you mentioned, ed, that the late senator actually did a lot of planning for this beautiful ceremony. pete: really powerful imagery that is befitting just the natural sound, ed, that you talked about, this is a guy who ran in 2008 on country first. i couldn't help but think that this is our country now putting him first for a few days, remembering the life and legacy of someone that was larger than life in our politics, larger than life in national security affairs, you know, i had a chance to work with him 10 years ago quite closely, a lot of people had that chance because he worked with a lot of different people and a lot of different causes across party lines at different moments created a lot of allies some enemies as well but allies. as rick davis said he was in the fight when you are in
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the fight, sometimes you make enemies, sometimes you make friends, certainly he was battling throughout theodore roosevelt was a long time hero for john mccain. he talked about him and both of his presidential campaigns in 2000 and 2008 taking on powerful interests, challenging the status quo. and i think peter doocy's point earlier as we see the casket now arriving there at the hears that you will have barack obama and george w. bush two former presidents from different parties, two men who defeated john mccain putting that aside and at the national cathedral at the will be delivering remarks and delivering eulogies, can you genesee that split between the casket being lowered into the hears on one side while the family taking all of this in with the rest of us. >> the hearse will go down constitution avenue and as you said, ed, fittingly stopping he at the vietnam war memorial, the war that changes his life shaped his life as a prisonerrer of war the dignity and honor that he showed in not asking nor
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literal release and coming back and saying it made me love my country even more. and really infused in him a belief that when america goes to fight wars we should fight them to win them. a champion of the surge in iraq, so the stop of the vietnam war memorial i think is a fitting tribute to a war that got very politicized for the men and women that fought it. they were invested in it and they believed in it and 12 certainly shaped. >> that memorial in washington is so beautiful. so many division in this country, we talked about division now. so much division in the vietnam era. some men came home not being honored. people feeling like they didn't want to pay special attention to the war and the aftermath and i think it's taken a long time but now not just john mccain but we should say many in our audience who served in vietnam finally after many years getting their due for their service. rachel: i think the senator actually played a very
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important role in bringing dignity to those men and women who served in that as you said very politicized war. they are heroes. and i think that's an important role that he has played in the senate. pete: service a huge ethos of his life. every time you see the shot service members in his family two. men in uniform there, his sons carry on that legacy of service to country. jimmy mccain being one of them and there and certainly that is -- and even in talking to meghan who was at this clanel for quite some time, a great believer in service to country. i think that east though, country first is something we often need to be reminded of. ed: such a beautiful picture there the u.s. capitol. cindy mccain going into limousines begin final journey for john mccain. it will be starting this morning at the u.s. capitol where he served so long first as a member of the u.s. house and then several decades as a u.s. senator, go onto the vietnam war memorial as we have been mentioning to honor his service there, cindy mccain
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will be laying a wreath. you can see it's cloudy overcast morning. it's been rain ago little bit. that may have an impact on exactly how long they spend, we're told at the vietnam war memorial. but then making its way to the washington national cathedral for the ceremony we have been talking about much of official washington getting together for that but his final resting place that he will reach tomorrow is at the naval academy in annapolis and that is very fitting as well. >well. rachel: he will be buried next to his best friend. pete: few of the tributes given by senator joe lieberman, senator lindsey graham famously known as the three amigos on capitol hill. he almost chose the first bipartisan presidential ticket. that's how close he was. ed: 2008 in home state of minnesota i was there he was thinking about picking joe lieberman he regretted he didn't reach across the aisle and do that. rachel: one of the things worth mentioning too is he
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comes from an era in congress washington, d.c. friends across the aisle. part of that is because he lived in washington, d.c. his family and him were able to forge those kinds of relationships. that's another era doesn't happen anymore. ed: we have a couple guest we want to bring. in we want to pause a little bit here and there because we just heard a little bit of sound as if there may be a little bit more happening there at the capitol. so i apologize in advance if we have to interrupt you. but the former executive director for the arizona republican party nathan sprowl is here. nathan, as you have been taking in all these events from phoenix now to washington. what goes through your mind? >> you know, i think it's just a chance for arizona to grieve and for the nation to grieve. and i think the way that mccain family did it this week was really perfect in the way that they demonstrated the top priority that senator mccain always was arizona and his constituents here. and so they gave arizona that moment and then they gave the nation that moment. and truly, we may not see somebody like him for a very
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long time, someone who is able to represent his local state but also be an ambassador for the united states around the world. and for that -- the republican policies of strength through peace or peace through strength, excuse me. he demonstrated that and he lived that and that's why i think we see so many dignitaries and officials from around the country and around the world grieving along with the state of arizona. pete: nathan, when you say we won't see someone like him for quite some time. a lot of people echo that sentiment. why is that? what made the senator special? >> one of the things that's interesting that i ran across this week just preparing for some other things is i watched the eulogy that senator mccain gave to senator goldwater back in, i think it 98. if you vice president watched the seven minutes of senator mccain y'all eulogizing senator goldwater it's well worth your time. what mccain said about gold swatter in essence what we're all saying about him he was a giant of a man. i paraphrase toward the end
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of that eulogy and senator mccain said when the history of arizona is written, barry goldwater will have a chapter and all of us will just merely be footnotes. i think what we have seen this week is the coming to fruition of the fact that john mccain didn't get that part quite right. he clearly is a chapter in the history of arizona and arguably a chapter in the history of america and the world for the last 50 years. rachel: nathan i'm an arizona girl myself. governor ducey when he eulogy eulogized senator mccain imagining arizona without senator mccain is like imagining arizona without the grand canyon. i was a young college republican it is hard to imagine arizona without john mccain. >> in 1982 first elected to the united states house that was my home district where i lived as a boy 9 or 10 years old. i remember listening to my parents explain to us why they chose to vote for then congressman mccain. obviously now senator
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mccain. and it was about his life story. his life of history. it wasn't the fact that he was a p.o.w. clearly that heroic service was a part of it he had already back then in 1928 demonstrated a life of service. one of the things that people miss is that he only won that first election why less than 3,000 votes. think how different american history would have been different. ed: indeed. nathan, stand by for us. you heard the rumble of motorcycle from u.s. capitol police as you can see from the live pictures this motorcade has begun this journey and a final journey for senator john mccain onto the vietnam veterans memorial and onto the national cathedral before ultimately his place of rest at the naval academy in annapolis, maryland. let's bring in democratic strategist antjuan seawright. what goes through your mind as you think about the fact that this is someone who did reach across the political divide so much so that two people who defeated him for the presidency george w. bush a republican, barack obama a democrat, will both be at his funeral today?
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>> first my thoughts and prayers are with senator mccain's family and all of the lives he has touched over the years. i'm from south carolina. and although our policies didn't always line up, senator mccain was seen as a honorary south korea citizen becaus -- south carolinacitizenp ties to the state. i met him on two occasions. each time i met him i shook his hand and thanked him for his service -- and i said thank you for willing to serve democrats as well. he always said to me whether he was being honest or said it in a joking way, he always said youngster, my service is not predicated on political party. and that meant everything in the world to me. someone who we now know as a national hero and icon and someone who will go down in his rightful place in history. you know, i was always taught in politics we are judged by our wins and our losses. we're judged by the policy we may pass or the ones we fail to pass.
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but, the universe will judge us on how well we did three things, how well did we do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly before our god. if the universe judged john mccain in those three things, i think we can all say well done thy good and faithful servant. pete: well said. tribute from the other side of the aisle thank you very much. bring in tributer with the federalist aerial davidson. we are watching live images of the senator as he travels down constitution avenue toward the vietnam war memorial. your take on today's tribute? >> i think it's a wonderful tribute. i think, like previous guest guest said earlier it's an opportunity for the nation to grieve together not just in arizona but as a whole. you know, john mccain lived a wondrous life. he served his country for 60 years in the military and the house of representatives. and then in the senate. i think i am privileged to be speaking on him today as a millennial he was one of
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the first conservatives i ever really had contact with in terms of in the press and someone to look up to. so i think it's a wonderful tribute to see that we are able to honor him in this way. ed: can you see people there on constitution avenue. many tourists lining that avenue in washington with the smithsonian and other tourist attractions there, just standing on the side, paying their respects to senator mccain as he winds his way up constitution avenue towards the lincoln memorial and the vietnam veterans memorial which is right beside the lincoln memorial. such a -- just a remarkable moment and we want to thank everyone for watching us this morning. we will be back tomorrow but for now we would like to hand off to our wonderful colleagues bret baier and martha maccallum in washington and i think bret and martha, as you heard from our last guest in total 60 years of service to this nation. what a remarkable legacy from john mccain. >> martha: welcome and good morning to our continuing
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coverage of the funeral of senator john mccain. i'm martha maccallum. >> bret: i'm bret baier in washington. the motorcade as you see there carrying senator mccain's casket departing capitol hill after lying in state in the rotunda. he is just the 31st person in our nation's history to have that honor motorcade now on the way to the vietnam war memorial where family members will lay a wreath that will likely be a very emotional moment as i'm sure everyone knows john mccain spent five and a half years as a prisoner of war in vietnam and there will be many veterans there this morning. >> bret: from there they will head to the washington national cathedral already family, friends, even former political foes in presidential races gone by. arriving there. they will participate in this national funeral service. we will be hearing from senator mccain's daughter meghan mccain, presidents barack obama, george w. bush, along with former secretary of state henry
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kissinger. >> martha: that is expected to get underway in about an hour, maybe less than that first we go to jennifer griffin who was at the vietnam veterans memorial this morning. jennifer, good morning to you. all right. so we're going to wait for jennifer. a little issue with her audio. thankfully chris wallace is standing by watching all of this with us this morning. chris, good to see you again. your thoughts as we enter sort of the final stage here of this recognition of john mccain? >> well, this is going to be enormously emotional day as you pointed out. first of all, to stop at the vietnam veterans memorial and just think about that. here was john mccain who spent five and a half years in captive, treated brutally by his north vietnamese captors. afterwards he decided many years afterwards that he wanted to help engineer the reconciliation between the u.s. and vietnam. and he took a most unlikely
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compatriot in that and that is senator john kerry one of his colleagues in the senate. they couldn't have been on more different sides during the vietnam debate. you had john mccain obviously a -- who fought 23 missions before he was shot down. john kerry who fought in vietnam but then came back, turned in his medal and very much opposed the war in vietnam and the two of them working together for normalization of relations with vietnam which says so much about john mccain and his effort, even if he had differences with somebody, if he saw a common cause, they would work together and there you see the gray shock of hair of john kerry outside the national cathedral. >> martha: rudy giuliani right in front of him. >> bret: tom ridge. referring back before they arrived at the vietnam memorial to overnight you had all these people yesterday funneling through to pay their respects to senator mccain lying in state.
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the cap tall police actually stood vigil over the casket overnight every minute standing there throughout the evening. one of the images yesterday that was not really picked up on was there were former p.o.w.'s who were in the hanoi hilton with john mccain. and when they went up to the cass get, they knocked on the cass get. that, believe it or not, there is sam johnson who served in the hanoi hilton with him. is he a congressman from texas. but that knock is how they would communicate in between cells in the hanoi hilton. they would start with shave and a hair cut two bits. the vietnam me wouldn't know what the signal was but they knew they were communicating. well the former p.o.w.s who went up to that casket yesterday knocked on it as senator mccain. >> they are not alone. we are still here with you. the stories that came out of the hanoi hilton for instance at one point at christmas time during his five years in captivity, one
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of the north vietnamese guards did a cross in the dirt with the toe of his shoe saying i believe in christianity and christ as well. of course, if anybody had seen it, he would have been brutally punished. and all these little things, new yorks on the wall but, remember, if you were in solitary confinement being brutally tortured for five and a half years something like a north vietnamese guard scratching out the cross in dirt in your prison cell could be something that could keep you going for a while. >> martha: you cannot underestimate the bond between those men and john mccain said it was those knocks, those bits of communication that allowed him to sustain his hope and hang in there throughout that excruciatingly long period of his life. jennifer griffin is stopping by at the vietnam veterans memorial this morning where the motorcade will stop and the family members will lay a wreath. jennifer, good morning. >> good morning, martha. well, we have just seen the
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hearse arrive here at the vietnam memorial. they will pause briefly as you mentioned and cindy mccain will get out. she will lay a wreath here at the memorial where john mccain used to come many mornings when he was here in washington to pay tribute to the more than 58,000 vietnam veterans who died in vietnam who are enliste listed on this l behind me. emotional scenes. you were talking about those taps on the walls that the p.o.w.s use to communicate. i have been hearing stories all week about how they would communicate through those walls and how, if they could get the other person on the other side of the wall to laugh, they knew that they were going to be able to survive another day. we also have heard stories about how john mccain when his captors would come, in he loved to tell sports stories through the walls of the hanoi hilton, and when his captors would try to torture him and get the names of his navy squadron out of him, he would give
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them the starting lineup, the offensive line of the green bay packers instead. he had a sense of humor even under tremendous duress at the hanoi hilton. there were also images that we have heard of how during those five years when he was in captivity his father, who had been made the commander-in-chief of the pacific fleet, he would go up to the dmz and stare over on christmas into the north vietnam knowing that his son for those five years was being held in prison and there was nothing he could do about it. he would stand there silently and then return back to see yo to sighing cy g r veteran with tag pinned to his half. navy officers running by at dawn this morning singing anchors away. there will be a moment just we're seeing the hearse pull up now. can you see that video and
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cindy mccain will get out. she will walk to the memorial and lay a wreath and we expect other family members to follow. martha? >> bret: you know, jen, you talk to staffers for mccain and they would tell the story of how the senator sometimes early in the morning would just go down to the wall by himself, nobody else, cup of coffee and walk up and down. i mean, he spent a lot of time at that very spot. >> he spent a lot of time here. it's where he -- it's where he received his inspiration and when there would be a tough fight in the senate on capitol hill, when bipartisan was hard to find. he made his way here. he always said the names on this wall they were the real heroes. you heard chris talk about how really incredible it was when president clinton decided that he was going to normalize relations with
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vietnam. it was john kerry and john mccain who were serving on a p.o.w. committee on capitol hill on the foreign affairs committee who came together and the two men did not see eye to eye. they were not friends before that. they had taken very different stands on the vietnam war. but they came together and they provided political cover for president clinton. and there was that famous moment in 1993 here at the wall when clinton gave his first memorial day speech. and he was heckled. he had asked john mccain had actually offered to come and be here at the memorial because it was controversial what president clinton was going to do, normalizing relations with communist vietnam. john mccain offered to come here, be with him, president clinton declined. and there were some tense moments here at this memorial. but this is the place that john mccain came most mornings when he was in d.c., a place of reverence. a place where he paid tribute to those who did not
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make it back from vietnam more than 58,000 americans. bret? >> martha: we see john kelly the chief of staff and general mattis walking together to the memorial and this, you know, of all the memorials that are in this area, they are all so poignant and so important in their own way. the vietnam memorial has its own feeling that is different and distinct from all the others. because it just begins with a few names and a year on the left-hand side and it increases throughout the entire wall and becomes more and more intense. chris: i was going to say if you haven't been to the vietnam memorial and i'm sure most of us have it's moving event. have you that wall built architect mya lynn in 1982. it dips down so, when you start walking on it, as you say, there are only a few names and as you start to continue on the walk that cindy mccain and defense secretary mattis are going to take in a moment, you go
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deeper and deeper and you feel like you are getting deeper into the war when sometimes there would be thousands of americans who would be killed in a single week so you literally feel that you are going into the war and all the carnage there. >> martha: the depth of it represents the complicity of that war most monuments something you look at. do as you walk by and created by young architectural contest to create it. >> bret: just think about these two gentlemen flanking cindy mccain. secretary mattis obviously general mattis. and now white house chief of staff general kelly. both serving their life in the u.s. military and they have seen a lot of carnage in their time, john kelly losing his own son in the war in afghanistan. and now this moment escorting the widow of senator mccain. let's listen in.
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>> jennifer griffin standing there at the memorial. >> incredible symbolism this visit to the vietnam memorial this morning for cindy mccain to stand there a moment of silence, to lay a wreath was so significant where he came every morning to pay respects to whether 58,000 americans who never came home.
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to see defense secretary, james mattis and john kelly, both marines, escort cindy mccain to the spot where she lay the wreath. all of this is very moving. one of john mccains sons, jimmy, he is a marine and he joined the service during the height of the iraq war, their son jack was a naval academy graduate, they will be moving on to the naval academy tomorrow where we understand that the general will you be speaking for 11 minutes at the chapel there. senator john mccain to the very end, dictating all the symbolism of this memorial, the fact that he's chosen to be buried at the naval academy instead of at arlington national cemetery where both his father and grandfather both admirals in the u.s. navy were buried. he is sending a signal that institutions are important and
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to be laid next to his best friend, admiral chuck larson at the naval academy tomorrow, we saw the preparations there yesterday and it is designed to say that these institutions, the navy, the marines, they are important to our nation service. something, serving something beyond, bigger than yourself. that is the message that john mccain is sending and also send a message that we will never forget those americans who died on the battlefield in vietnam. you can hear behind me, there is a round of applause standing ovation, a crowd lining the walkway with cindy mccain and the rest of the family have laid the wreath. there was a candlelight vigil here last night with some friends paying tribute. but many people turned out
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today to pay their final respects. >> jennifer, you talk about the fact that john mccains father, would go to the embassy, to think about his son during the course of his time, he never talked about it, never tried to use his pole to free his son. i think about talking to senator mccain on the campaign trail when his sons were involved in the iraq war and he was campaigning and he would never mention it. he never talked about the fact that his sons were serving and it was such an issue during the campaign and i remember one time being with him and he got a call from his wife, cindy mccain, she was upset and they were talking and after he said to me, she was at a campaign event and she missed a call from jack. and that obviously, that feeling of having a loved one,
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fighting overseas and to miss a phone call from them is just so tragic in the moment of that 24 hours. but it was a kind of thing that he never discussed on the campaign trail. but obviously felt so deeply about service and about family. >> jennifer, before we let go, you cover the pentagon i cover the pentagon. you know the respect in those hallways 19 and a half miles of corridor and all the people in there. for senator mccain i said never before had i seen a general shudder to think about testifying before senator mccain in the services committee but final thoughts on that and will the whole there is no in foreign policy from that front on capitol hill. jennifer: such an advocate for the military. i mean, there is a reason that senator mccain asked james mattis to serve as a pallbearer. on sunday at the naval academy.
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there was -- you know, all week at the pentagon there have been people very sad, paying tribute to him. remembering him and knowing that yes, he was one of the toughest senators to have two appear of. he held the pentagon feet to the fire. he made sure they were spending the money wisely and that they were taking care of the truth. but nobody loved the military more and losing such a strong voice and such a strong advocate. he saw the emotion on the faces of the defense secretary and john kelly. both marines who know what it is like to serve in the places where john mccain and his sons have served. one of the things martha mentioned is how john mccain did not mention his son on the campaign trail. that was for his safety, because it was to know that there was a presidential candidate son serving in iraq it would have made him a target. the same with admiral mccain, when he was the head of the
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pacific fleet. he knew his son was probably facing worse treatment because the north vietnamese wanted a propaganda victory by holding him in that prison cell. but he did not say a word, he was stoic in the way that john mccain was stoic when he ran for president. service is in the lifeblood of the mccain family. we have seen it passed down to this next generation. and the symbolism here again, at the vietnam memorial, something very beautiful on this day of great symbols. back to. >> jennifer griffin, live at the memorial as the motorcade heads to the national cathedral that you see there. peter doocy is outside of the national cathedral with the latest. peter: we watch a few minutes ago as several busloads of united states senators pulled up to take the late senator
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mccain 's -- winn-dixie senator lindsey graham there by himself, senator cory booker, the new jersey center, democratic and a former senator was on the bus is what we just heard from inside the cathedral the fire marshal said there is a 3204 seat capacity. that john baynor is in there, former speaker of the house. leon panetta, number defense secretary. he is talking to jay leno and it gives you a color or a little sense of the kind of characters that are here. the wide variety of people that john mccain wanted to be here to celebrate his life at this invitation only event. bret: peter, thank you. we are looking live. you can see senator bob dole, former presidential candidate, and dear friend of senator john mccain.
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and still, saying hello, his wife, elizabeth, a longtime senator from north carolina. that is something to see as well. martha: it certainly is. let's bring in bill bennett. he is standing by watching all of this gathering as we anticipate the beginning of this. good morning to you. bill: good morning. i'm so glad they made that stop. i'm glad they added it on. it is one of the saddest and most noble places in washington. maybe in the country. i was just thinking, watching a couple of thoughts, there are no honors like military honors. there is no protocol like military protocol. it is just so elegant, so well done. i was thinking, a line from virgil if you will allow me. he writes, there are tears for
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passing things here. and things mortal touched the mind here to the honorable finds its due. i think that is right for this occasion. but if john mccain were watching he would say, tears but you know, in his cantankerous way, he had a way of coming added the other way. i remember a story he told me. he said yeah, i appreciate what you're saying and the suffering i went through and all of that. but i was ready for all of the suffering because of boxing at the naval academy. he said i was almost as bad a boxer as i was a student. [laughter] i was in the bottom of the class. he said, but they beat the hell out of me and boxing! and you know what in vietnam, they beat the hell out of me. i had been there before. he just had that way of when people were around him, being almost reverent and sometimes saying come on, let's cut through it. a great capacity to put himself
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in perspective. and i think that is a great thing. just on a political angle, what i think chris was talking about and you -- his position in the senate as an advocate for the military. who steps up now and does that? i hope tom cotton is listening, who is also a military veteran because there was no advocate for the military as strong and as effective as john mccain. bret: we saw the former supreme court justice recently retired anthony kennedy talking to the senate majority leader. now you see him on the screen, mitch mcconnell, senator durbin, house speaker paul ryan. basically this is a who's who of washington.chris wallace. really around the country, there are people all over the place. i saw a former american idol store and singer, all kinds of
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folks there. >> well, this says something about how many people and from a wide variety of america, john mccain touched. i'm looking at the pallbearers, the honorary pallbearers. warren beatty, joe biden, michael bloomberg. i've not gotten out of the b's yet, and graham, and a russian dissident, it gives you a sense of all the people that john mccain touched. i would like to make two points. as they go from the vietnam memorial to the cathedral peer festival about cindy mccain. john mccain was once asked to think of the 2008 campaign, what you admire about your wife? which is kind of an odd question but he said, her strength and the fact that she was able to bring up our family. while i was away so often on my duties, my adventures and one
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of the things i've seen over the next couple of days i'm sure i will see today and tomorrow, the strength of cindy mccain, she was, has gone through it must be a very difficult set of public appearances, he saw that again they are with putting the wreath at the vietnam veterans memorial with just great dignity and tremendous grace and my guess is that john mccain is looking down at her and saying, well done. and the second thing is going to say, i don't know if we'll see inset also but this is another one of the buildings you very much want to see if you come to washington. it is not on the tourist agenda but the national cathedral is one of the great gothic cathedrals in the world.if you were in france you travel 100 miles or thousand miles, the national cathedral stands up just beautifully to all of them and i hope in the ceremony
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will have some live shots that should show just how quite extraordinary the national cathedral is. bret: to think the chances are that cindy mccain becomes the pic for doug ducey, arizona governor for the sitting senator? >> some reports say she's not interested in it. i cannot imagine she would especially want to do that and i would think that he would want to put someone in that job not just as a caretaker for a couple of the years but somebody who can take a platform of being a u.s. senator for a couple of years and use that to run for reelection in 2020. and to represent the republican party for a period of time. i could be perfectly wrong but i will be surprised, wouldn't you? >> i would. he has talked about the decision. he has told people that he wants to talk to the family and when the decision is made he will obviously not make it
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until after the burial at the naval academy. i think we're going to see soon, the motorcade going past the vice president residence here. as it makes its way to the national cathedral. people packed in their, they just said an email saying it is packed with a lot of military blue-and-white uniforms. and she obviously is a close friend of megan mccain. martha: one of my favorite stories about cindy mccain that senator like to tell she would go a medical mission. she was on one in bangladesh when he went to greet her when she got off of the plane she had little babies with her. and he said, where is that baby going? and she says, our house. and he said, okay! no prior discussion, not thinking of us adopting the child but he immediately embraced and said i could not live without her. and obviously she has been a deer part of the family ever since. >> the former vice president, al gore and obviously, he used
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to live in this residence. the motorcade is going right past it right now. if you've never been to washington it's a beautiful section of northwest washington. a lot of trees. there is no building in the city of washington d.c.. that can be higher than the top of the capitol dome. a lot of trees and this is particularly, a lovely stretch as the motorcade goes past the vice president residence in a slow kind of move. chris? chris: if i can give you a preview, there's an expression no family. we talk about funerals being three handkerchief funerals mean that you'll be crying a lot during the funeral. and if you look at the program which we have, just the music, the eternal father, the navy
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hymn, battle hymnof the republic. and it will be sung by an opera singer, renee fleming. among the attributes, megan mccain that we've seen deeply emotional and deeply moved is going to deliver a tribute to her father. so is george w. bush, so is barack obama. this is going to be a three handkerchief funeral. >> quite a line appear there is ivanka trump and jared kushner entering and greeting some of the gases that come in today. as chris points out, it is a remarkable lineup and just this morning i went back and looked at some of the debate exchanges between george w. bush and john mccain and the 2000 primary. they got pretty vicious going at each other and as of course barack obama and john mccain did in the 2008 presidential debates as well. and it is a mark of the man
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that he wanted these two people that beat him in his two presidential elections, top aspiration that he hoped to achieve which he did not. will both be speaking today. it will be quite remarkable. also the national cathedral is the place where we have seen so many of these important historic funerals over the course of time. the president's, billy graham, there's john bolton and some members of the cabinet gathered. just an extra night gathering and an extra knee replaced. >> for president obama and george w. bush as the hearse makes its way past the vice president residence on massachusetts avenue, for both of the former president to speak, they were asked their staff was asked how they received that word and both of them got a call directly from senator mccain. both of them said they were surprised. that they would be eulogizing senator mccain as he makes his way down. a place where he has been many
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times. talking not only with vice president joe biden but others in the residence there. on massachusetts avenue. >> us go to chad outside of the national cathedral. covering capitol hill, covers it for us and keeps us on our toes about what's happening. has done it for years. >> a couple of things are struck by this morning was who came in. i walked into the capitol rotunda where the u.s. capitol police honor guard had been standing vigil throughout the night and i passed a democratic congressman from minnesota, served 24 years in the army national guard. he was shaken up just a little bit. he said i wanted to come pay my specs before go to the national cathedral. sheila jackson lee, democratic congress woman from texas on the plaza when the hearse pulled up. and you talked about, senator mccain was one of the few centers that can make the military brass, make their knees shake when he would talk to them. remember we had the troops in niger last year percent of the
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came was hot because he was not getting answers from the pentagon. and i remember this, he came back with some treatment, was looking better and he said i need to talk to the head of the cyber command. they can look at the drone footage and so on. and he wasn't getting the answers, he threatened to subpoena members of the military brass to come to capitol hill. and here came james mattis to the capital right away to talk to senator mccain. that was kind of him in full. at the top of his powers. that was the last time we really saw that. bret: you suck cory gardner, senator from colorado speaking to senator pat lahey from vermont. as you see the motorcade making his way down toward the national cathedral. i also saw moments ago, mitt romney in there with his wife. mitt romney of course running for the u.s. senate now in
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utah. former presidential candidate who was once a political opponent of john mccain. >> think about the two former presidents that will be speaking today and looking back at the contentious times that they had as they ran against each other. at one point, george w. bush called john mccain, clinton like. then the same criticism was thrown back at him and george bush said it was just about as low as you could go. to call him clinton like. these are guys that could go after him. but they were also gracious in defeat. the fact that they were surprised that john mccain wanted the two of them to be there to speak. i think it speaks to the fact that john mccain himself, wanted this to be a list funeral. >> we should point out it is an international event. a saw the foreign minister from saudi arabia. there are a number of foreign ministers that made their way over to this event today. to pay their respects.
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and chris, around the world, there were statements from world leaders about john mccain to the point where you know, it did become kind of presidential level almost. chris: absolutely! he was a major figure. maybe the major foreign-policy voice in the u.s. senate. republican or democrat for a quarter-century or so. and he liked to go on these congressional delegations, we talk about and talk to leaders. and there you see the magnificent shot of the national cathedral. incidentally the scaffolding on top is from an earthquake we had here several years ago and part of it fell down so they are reconstructing that.but he would go and let me tell you, john mccain showed up in your capitol if you looking for aid or a sale you are looking to get along with him. he enjoyed the power and wielded that power.
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>> this is fox news special coverage of the funeral of john mccain. war hero, former presidential nominee and longtime senator from arizona. good morning, i am bret baier in washington. martha: i am martha maccallum we are here in washington where family and friends and two former presidents are getting ready to pay tribute to the man that they call the maverick. during a funeral service and washington national cathedral. everybody has been gathered and watching all the comings and goings. this is clearly a who's who and all of the people that supported and admired john mccain over the course of his many, many years. in military service and on capitol hill. bret: key members of the senate, the house, foreign-policy, dignitaries, the administration. we saw the presidents daughter and son-in-law, ivanka trump and jared kushner and cabinet members as well.as the hearse pulls up there was a stop briefly at the vietnam veterans memorial. where senator mccain placed a
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wreath there in honor of all those that died in vietnam. her husband, of his spending five and half years in captivity as a prisoner of war. martha: these services, and life john mccain was always rushing around, this is about 15 minutes early, the arrival of the hearse at the national cathedral. everything is better than on time. as they like to do things in the military. we're going to get ready for the beginning of this service. as chris wallace was saying earlier on our fox news coverage, this is going to be an extraordinary service. the music, the speakers, megan mccain. we will hear from early on in the course of this service, she has been very emotional throughout the course of the last few days. very close to her father. i remember one of the first times i met senator mccain, he pulled his phone out to show me her picture is graduation from columbia. she just graduated and told me how incredibly proud he was of
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his daughter. and basically what a rock star she was going to be. she has been very successful obviously at fox news and she is at the view. she will speak of our father this morning. we'll see from former president barack obama and george w. bush paid the two men that beat john mccain. bret: chris, your thoughts? chris: i'm sure some people are looking at these pictures of people milling about inside of the grant national cathedral. and saying it does not look much like a funeral. and having been to a couple of state funerals, i can tell you, it is absolutely no disrespect to the person who is going to be honored today. that an event like this will come as something of a networking event. before the casket is brought in. there are a lot of people here. they have not seen each other,
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want to exchange pleasantries, want to do some business. i promise you, john mccain did the same thing when he attended these. you will see there, is that ivanka trump and sitting there talking, there is john bolton, the presidents national security advisor. and they are talking about whatever is on their mind. whether it is social, business, at a certain point as we get closer to the actual funeral, this is the way it is in washington. which is people are talking to each other and either doing business or catching up and probably sharing in a sense, of a wake, sharing some good stories, sometimes war stories of what it was like to deal with john mccain. oh my gosh. putting that wreath there was an emotional moment. it was a moment in which
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defense secretary james mattis and the chief of staff, former marine general john kelly, escorted her down there you see the family. just moments ago and meghan maccain again, with her sister there as we have seen throughout. you are talking chris, about foreign-policy earlier. i've had many people email me about senator mccain and kind of the whole that is left. the last 10 to 15 years he really was the most knowledgeable member on foreign conflict. and in some places, the only member who really understood all of the intricacies of some of this. the rise of isis. he was really at the forefront of fighting appeared one of the members who championed suffering, fighting suffering a lot of the places. travel to the conflict zones. you heard senator lindsey graham say we went to places nobody else wanted to go. and he was always on the road. this person emailing me saying,
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it is an absence that will leave his biggest mark. not just along senate republicans but both parties as for someone that is that in trickle to the nations foreign policy. chris: that's right. and senator mccain had no problems at all criticizing presidents of both parties when he thought they were wrong.he certainly was very critical of barack obama with his policy that he felt was well, leading from behind and he thought america always needed to lead from in front. as you see, donald trump, in some occasions, for example in syria talking about pulling troops out or stopping financial support for the rebuilding of syria, is something john mccain very much opposed. he was a hawk, a proud hawk and felt america had a role to play in the stability and in this threat of freedom around the world.
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and that is not a particularly fashionable view these days in washington. and he was unabashed in his belief that we were the as indispensable nation. and he would say he wanted us to be the world police. martha: and you rarely ate a meal in the same country in one day. they were on the move, he always felt he could pack in another meeting, another chance to talk to someone while on the ground. always wanted to soak up everything he could learn from all sides of what the situation was on the ground. last night i spoke to the dissident, vladimir who is one of the pallbearers say he said no one understood better what was happening in russia and how strong and forceful vladimir putin would become. he said when he first came into power, people thought he had the opportunity to potentially -- he appeared to be more sort of western european and some of his ways but he said john mccain knew from the get go
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that it was not going to be the kind of leader vladimir putin would be and he believes that the people of russia had no greater chance then john mccain.i want to bring in bill bennett, still standing by with us watching all of this is everybody gathers into the cathedral. good morning again, bill. >> hi. what chris said, the caucusing going on. that is washington, you cannot take that out i would like to think that penner mccain would be pleased to see cory gardner talking to pat lahey. maybe they are getting something done across the aisle. it is very much in his spirit. but i was thinking, it was a tradition of american life for presidents to the military heroes or served in the military. some think it should be a prerequisite for being president. a case not so much anymore. john mccain filled that flap for a lot of people and his
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military matters, his voice and so much authority again, someone needs to be groomed for that. it was one story wanted to mention. george washington at the end of the war is talking to his troops and he is stuttering along and he takes a pair of spectacles out of his pocket and puts them on and his men gasp. he says i see you're surprised i'm wearing this but i have become not only gray but almost blind. in the service of my country. john mccain had a moment like that i think little known story 1973 when he came back with other prisoners of wars. and orlando was singing tie a yellow ribbon. you are not old enough, martha. [laughter] and they were clapping and john mccain was not clapping afterwards, tony orlando when he met him said,
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were you offended? i'm sorry i did not mean to be so loud, you were not clapping. he said, i have trouble raising my arms. he said, but my feet were tapping the whole time. very, very john mccain. bret: and a longtime friend, senator lieberman, one of the three amigos during the campaign. lieberman, mccain and graham talking to jared kushner and ivanka trump there. on the phone with us now tommy espinoza, a close friend of senator mccain. he spoke at the memorial earlier this week in arizona. your thoughts on this day as you have witnessed and were part of the ceremonies in arizona. >> i would say that senator mccain was the proud -- he would be happy that both sides of the isle of talking to each other regardless of what the
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discussion may be. senator mccain was an individual that really enjoyed the politics of the united states and at the same time, a very serious guy but had a humor streak in him. and knowing him, he is probably looking down on everyone and chuckling knowing what some folks are thinking about him while they are there. cracking up about it. at the same time, feeling pretty low and heartbroken at what meghan -- the call is very difficult. our hearts go out to the family but she is really taking it rough. i am sure that his sense of being a father, being a sender, being a hero, all together as
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watching this from heaven, wondering if anything positive will come out of his death. as it relates to the relationship between the various political powers of washington d.c.. and his legacy left behind. bret: you talked about in your memorial, when he asked you to cochair his campaign. and you said you know i'm a democrat, right? >> yes, the phone call from him, i was at a restaurant with a good dear friend of mine. and it was the congressman, -- a shootout for the senatorial race. his first one. called me at a restaurant, i got on the phone and he says, i'm going to run for the u.s. senate and i want you to be my
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cochair and i let him go on for a bit. and he was a congressman of the time.as a congressman, i'm a democrat. and he goes, that's fine! that doesn't bother me. i want you to cochair my -- i said i'm not sure how many votes it will get you. you are a republican. i said, let me sleep on it. and he said no, no -- i want an answer right now. yes or no? of course, i said yes. and that has been a relationship from 1983 -- no, no it was after that. that caused us to intertwine our politics and try to do some good things in arizona. speak to martha maccallum here,
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is look forward in arizona, we are just watching on the screen. president obama and michelle obama have entered, also bill and hillary clinton. also in the cathedral now. we look forward for arizona, any thoughts on who would succeed senator mccain in that role? >> well, as we both know, i do not think just anyone to be honest with you that has what senator mccain brought to the country and obviously to arizona. my honest hope is that to be honest with you, is that -- will be considered to fill his role in at least be able to complete some of the things that he's been working on for years and one of those immigration reform, he has been
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tireless, with senator kennedy trying to put together immigration reform, as we know, the u.s. senators that he was able to put together also, i think there is other things. there is one of his legacy project that he wanted to have was -- river in arizona. to convert into a major economic development hub for the state of arizona. i think these are projects that he felt pretty strong about. i think it would be a great job.bret: thank you so much we are looking live now. senator mccain in the family getting ready to enter. thank you, tommy espinoza. getting ready to enter the cathedral. president bush, laura bush inside, we saw the clintons, president obama and now the funeral about ready to start. cindy mccain, meghan maccain, the entire family will walk up the steps with the body as it is going inside.
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