dogs on spike's blog at foxnews.com/thedailyspike. loved having you here this week. we have the kavanaugh hearings and lots of news. here's shep. >> shepard: it's noon on the west coast, 3:00 on the east coast and president trump says the attorney general jeff sessions should track down the senior official that claims to be a part of a resistance trying to protect the country from president trump. the president responding to the idea of using lie detectors to find the anonymous writer. and he says he's considering taking action against "the new york times" for running the op-ed. former president barack obama telling americans to get out and vote because our democracy depends on it. the former president says these are extraordinary and dangerous times. but there's hope for change. >> in two months we have the chance, not the certainty but

the chance to restore some semblance of sanity to our politics. >> there was a lot more and president trump has just responded. also, 17 years on, the heros of 9-11 are still dying and facing the new fight. once again, jon stewart is telling the nation to do the right thing. >> this time, finally, give them some pass. that's all. >> shepard: let's get to it. president trump calling on the justice department of the united states to hunt down the mystery senior administration official who wrote the bomb shell op-ed that rocked washington. he's also threatening to take action against "the new york times" for publishing it. the president taking questions from reporters on air force one this afternoon. >> do you think jeff sessions should be investigating the

author of the op-ed? >> i think so. it's national security. i would think jeff should be investigating the author of that piece. i believe it's national security. >> shepard: that was audio from air force one. according to the justice department's website, the doj can assume jurisdiction only when there's a violation of the federal law. officials with the justice department are supposed to make investigative decisions without interference from the oval office. jeff sessions said politics would not influence the justice department open his watch. president trump was talking to reporters today while president obama was giving a speech at the university of illinois. he talked about the times op-ed and calls out president trump by name. actually, i believe for the first time, at least since the election. we'll have more on his comments ahead. "the new york times" published the column from a senior,

unnamed senior administration official on wednesday. the author writes about a resistance inside the administration. a group of trump appointees trying to save the country from what that official calls president trump's misguided impulses. it is far from the first time we've heard of such a thing. dozens of top administration officials have said that they did not write the open said. the first lady, melania trump and the vice president, mike pence, have denied it. "the new york times" reports the white house has a list of 12 possible suspects. republican senator rand paul from kentucky suggested having administration officials take lie detector tests over this. the president said he respected senator paul but didn't say if he's considering such a thing. the chief white house correspondent john roberts is live. hi, john. >> the president was on his way from billings, montana to fargo, north dakota. the rally you just saw. when he came back to speak with

reporters and kicked this up to a different level suggesting that he wants jeff sessions to investigate who was behind this op-ed. as you pointed out, shep, they have to determine if a crime was committed for an investigation to take place. whether or not there was depends on what your perspective is. we'll get to that. the white house says they have a short list or at least people outside the white house that counsel the white house and say they have a short list of people that might be among the usual suspects that they think might be behind this op-ed. it's possible that that list was indeed one that previously existed from the investigations months ago into who was leaking from the white house. the president suggesting a short time ago that "the new york times" and the person that wrote this op-ed might be in some sort of jeopardy. the president also describing this as a national security issue because the person that

wrote this op-ed may in fact have a security clearance and may be in on top level meetings. let's listen as the president addresses both of those issues. >> is there an action that should be taken against "the new york times"? >> we're waiting to see. i'm looking at that right now. we're going to take a look at what he had, what he gave, what he's talking about. also where he is right now. supposing i have a high level national security clearance. let's he has a clearance and he goes into a high level meeting concerning china or russia or north korea or something. if this guy goes in, i don't want him in those meetings. >> now, the issue of whether or not the writer and/or "the new york times" could be in some sort of jeopardy and whether you have the grounds to launch an investigation from the department of justice, on the surface it looks like there was no crime committed. the person didn't disclose any classified information in the

op- op-ed, he or she described what others were up to in the administration. the president is looking at this from the perspective of if this person was actively drying to thwart some of what he was trying to do, then there may be some ground in there to launch an investigation into what this person might have been up to and to what extent they might have affected national security, which could potentially take it into the criminal realm, shep. >> shepard: john, the president talking about the possibility still of a robert mueller interview. >> yeah. we told you this on wednesday when we reported that robert mueller had sent over his latest proposal and they responded. mueller said he wanted to keep questions limited to russia and if there was collusion by the trump campaign and he was willing to accept written answers. there was a hangup over whether or not he would be allowed to do an in-person follow up interview. mueller at that point did not

seem to be concerned with obstruction of justice issues that fall under article 2 of the constitution, whether or not the president has the power to hire and fire people at will. the president talked about that and whether there would be an interview. let's listen. >> if we're going to meet, it has to be a fair meeting. you have article 2 provision. that discovers everything. despite article 2, there was no obstruction and no collusion. i'd do it under certain circumstances. it's a big waste of time because there was no collusion. >> the two sides are slightly closer together than they were a month ago. but still, shep, not close enough yet for the president to engage one-on-one. >> shepard: john roberts at the white house. thank you. president obama has stayed out of politics mostly since he left office. that's clearly over. barack obama back on the stage in illinois with thoughts on "the new york times" op-ed as well.

he took his first big step back in politics with a major speech ahead of this year's mid-term elections. the former president warned that the author of the op-ed in the white house and others are not enough to check this president. >> that is not a check. i'm being serious here. it's not how our democracy is supposed to work. these people aren't elected. they're not accountable. they're not doing us a service by actively promoting 90% of the crazy stuff that is coming out of this white house and saying don't worry, we're preventing the other 10%. >> and an obama aide said that today's speech is a preview of a message the former president plans to give on the campaign trail. he called on americans to get out and vote. he says what is happening now is not normal, that these times are dangerous and extraordinary. the former president said some

politicians are using fear and anger to divide america to hold on to their power. then he mentioned the sitting president by name. it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. he's just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years. >> president obama says voters have the opportunity to go to the polls in a couple months and make changes. our matt finn live in chicago. matt? >> shep, at that rally, president obama basically giving people in illinois a call to action. they have to vote if they're fed up with issues like sexual and racial discrimination, pay inequality and healthcare costs. president obama said the mid-terms are different and the stakes are higher and the

consequences of sitting on the sidelines are more dire. >> you need to vote because our democracy depends on it. this moment is different. the stakes really are higher. the consequences of any of us sitting on the sidelines are more dire. >> president obama also took on the current white house and president trump saying president trump is using an old playbook by appealing to fear and telling people order will be restored if it was not for those people that don't look or pray like us. president obama said he likes to point out to republicans that it's his policies that are responsible for today's growing economy and decreasing unemployment numbers. he called out the republican party saying they have abandoned true conservative values and become a radical party of fear. president obama said he stayed out of the public eye for some time leaving the oval office

because he wanted to spend time with his family and carry on the american tradition of presidents gracely exiting the white house. shep? >> shepard: president trump responded to the former president in the last hour. >> president trump just wrapped up a rally in fargo, north dakota and he responded to some of president obama's speech. here's what he had to say. >> i'm sorry, i watched it but i fell asleep. i found he's very good. very good for sleeping. i think he was trying to take some credit. he was trying to take credit for this incredible thing that is happening to our country. >> looking ahead next week, we can expect to see president trump and president obama continuing to rally and campaign for their party's candidates in the upcoming mid-terms at locations across the country. >> shepard: matt, ahead more on

president obama warning america that we're in dangerous times and calling out president trump by name. you'll hear from chris wallace and later, jon stewart on the fox news deck. funny man and activist with an emotional message. the people that helped our nation in its dire time of need now need help of their own. that's coming up from the fox news deck on this friday afternoon. to the junior prom with.

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if that wasn't bad enough, the anonymous op-ed piece in "the new york times" and now you have barack obama getting off the political sidelines and back into the political arena and unusually powerful shots for a former president against the current president. if donald trump thinks he's under fire, it's because he is. >> shepard: the goal from barack obama or any democrats is to get democrats out to vote. but you wonder if the site and sound of barack obama wouldn't have the effect of bringing out the republican base instead. i wonder from a washington perspective what your thoughts are on that in the early going. >> yeah, sure. but to the degree that this is a base election and seems now that nobody even entertains the thought that you would try to actually reach out to the center and try to get independents or god for bid somebody from the other party to vote for you,

it's about energizing your base, getting more of your supporters out than the other guy gets of his supporters. barack obama coming out, not just the one speech. he's going to be on the campaign trail. he will energize the democratic base just like donald trump when he goes to north dakota or montana as he has this week energizing republican voters. >> shepard: there's been unusual, maybe to some degree unprecedented push regarding the doj in investigating political enemies and others and president obama spoke on that today. listen. >> we do not pressure the attorney general or the fbi to use the criminal justice system to punish our political opponents. or to explicitly call on the attorney general to protect members of our own party from prosecution. >> shepard: on the facts he's right. >> i have to say, there's been two e-mails this week, tweets

this week -- e-mails is so old fashioned -- that shocked a lot of people. first of all, even more disturbing was the tweet on monday by the president, seems like 2 1/2 weeks ago, in which the president basically called out jeff sessions for the prosecution of two democratic -- rather republican congressmen on charges or corruption. chris collins for insider trading. these were independent prosecutions by the justice department of two republicans for committing alleged ill legalities and the president said they could hurts in the mid-terms. they were two sure victories. that was the point he was making. the first time when he's called in the past for investigating or prosecuting hillary clinton, james comey a number of other people and just today raising

the possibility of prosecuting the "new york times" and the writer of the anonymous essay when the question is -- it's clear if there is a violation of federal law, as you pointed out at the top of the show, the justice department gets involved. i'd like someone to point out what the violation of federal law is here. clearly it's embarrassing to the president, disturbing to the president, you can argue it's anti-democratic, but i'm not sure that writing that essay was illegal. >> shepard: yeah, it appears according to legal scholars, the brain room through whom we've gone, our regular checks and balances, that this would be protected under the first amendment unless they can come up with something else. how do you feel about this now in the front, in the form of -- of the letter to the op-ed to "the new york times," this idea of being two tracks down there in washington, the track that goes through the oval office and the track that goes around it? it's certainly not the first

time i've heard of that and confident it's not the first time you. have. >> no. there are times when -- you know, you don't write out and say i'm not going to do what you just told me, mr. president but people will slow walk something or try to delay it. that has happened a number of times with this president despite his tweets to the justice department. my guess is they ignore him on the prosecution of the two republicans and not prosecuting or investigating the anonymous columnist. having said that, i have some questions about this person. first of all, if you really think he's doing a service, he or she, this anonymous insider, why wouldn't you shut up and keep doing it? all you've done is inflame the president and make him less likely to listen to contrary opinions. sounds more like the person wanted to take credit than to continue to by his or her likes to protect the country.

there is something to be said. if you were going to make this point about this president, put your point to it. do what a lot of people have done over the years, which is resign. i disagree with this president on policy, i'm going to resign. this person wasn't willing to do that. >> shepard: chris, we look forward to "fox news sunday." before football, catch vice president pence on with chris wallace this sunday on "fox news sunday." a statement is out from "the new york times" on this matter of responding. if we could put that up full screen. here it is. statement from the times.

>> shepard: coming up, helping the heros of 9-11. you'll be stunned to learn how and why they need it. funny man jon stewart is here on the fox news deck coming up. imbalance of good bacteria. phillips' colon health caps have this unique combination of probiotics to help replenish good bacteria. get four-in-one symptom defense. also try our delicious new probiotic gummies.

>> shepard: as the search continues for the author of "the new york times" op-ed about president trump analysts that have identified other anonymous writers are studying the piece. they use different methods include statistics and science. trace gallagher has more. >> the profession of figuring out what wrote what are called language detectives. over the past few days, there's been a lot of talk about "the

new york times" op-ed using the term "loathe star." the experts say the big words can be red herrings used to throw people off the trail. they say it's much more important to focus on spelling, punctuation, how words are grouped. they say function words are the most important. words people commonly use but use in different ways like like, of, with, over, as. do you saw different from or different than? do you end sentences on a preposition like where are you at versus where are you? experts say men tend to use the words the, of, this and that more often and women tend to use first and second person pronouns like i, me or you. all of that said, language detectives said "the new york times" might have edited it for style or tried to throw people off by using words like lodestar. the lingo investigators are

pretty good. remember when the british experts concluded that a book was written by j.k. rowling? rowling came forward and confessed. and then there was "primary colors" telling of a clintonesque presidential candidate. news week columnist joe kline admitted to writing the book. sometimes it doesn't take a pro. the manifesto written by ted kaczniski was identified by his brother because of his writing style. bottom line here, most of the odds makers and the bookies think the mystery of this op-ed will be solved by monday, next week sometime. >> shepard: trace gallagher. thank you. 17 years after the twin towers fell, the brave men and women that rushed to ground zero are still dying. coming up, jon stewart on the news deck with two heros of 9-11

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>> shepard: this coming tuesday will mark 17 years since the terrorist killed thousands in new york, d.c. and pennsylvania. many of those that survived the attacks of 9-11 are still suffering the effects. thousands are now fighting cancer and other illnesses after inhaling all of that toxic dust for more than a month at ground zero. there's programs that offer help to first responders and survivors but those that need

the help are not getting it. jon stewart and john field and richard alice are helping the first responders and i spoke with them. >> thanks for having us. >> shepard: why are you here? in case somebody forgotten. >> i'm muscle. i'm with these guys. if anybody tries to get in their way, i throw fists. >> shepard: back in the day, you did a lot of pushing to get this legislation in place. now some of that legislation is about to run out. >> that's correct. these guys have been working on this since 2004. they've been the boots on the ground. john has been to congress hundreds of times. >> shepard: hundreds. >> you know, 257 times. >> wow. >> not that he's counting. richard is as well. as the vcf comes up in 2020, we're just trying to get ahead of it to let people know that there's still time to sign up for the program, there's still

thousands of people -- even this morning we were at a news show. there were cops down there working the show. they said we were at the pile, too, not signed up for the program. getting the word that the program is out there that you can still sign up and try to get congress aware that this thing has to get renewed before 2020 before the vcf runs out of money. >> shepard: it will run out of money. >> absolutely. >> shepard: what happens if it runs out? >> if we don't get the bill extended, those that get sick after that will get the free health care but not compensated for their illnesses. this struggle, this fight, the pain and suffering is real. we average losing somebody every 2.7 days. we lost a 47-year-old united states marshall to 9-11 related cancer. let's go back in time. when jon did his show in 2010, you followed up the following day and helped us get a bill passed that saved tens of

thousands of lives. >> shepard: why did that help? >> are you familiar with the world shame? >> shepard: who is fighting against this? >> we are apolitical. we don't care. we care that you do the right thing. there's people from every state, 433 congressional districts were represented at ground zero in the cleanup and recovery. many of these men and women are now in the world trade center program. the struggle is real, the fight is real. we need to get the bill extended and add more money to it so the men and women, uniform or nonuniform -- going back to what he did. when he did his show and you did your show helped us get to the finish line and saved a lot of lives. we can joke about it and we can look back about it, democrat and republican. at the end of the day, you saved american lives. at the end of the day, we don't care who helps as long as they

help us. >> shepard: it's not as if people are asking for things that they don't deserve or haven't already been put in place. for some reason this bill was a temporary thing. why? >> the victim's compensation fund which has a short time frame is probably going to run out of money before the end of 2020 at this current rate with the number of people coming down with these cancers. we're talking cancers on steroids. as jon so aptly said, we're trying to get ahead of the curve before we have to bring psych and dying people to washington. we can't bring the same people. we have a new crop of people because the others died. >> over 10,000 people now with a certified 9-11 related cancer. the government says yes, 9-11 caused your cancer. we're going to outnumber those that died on 9-11 because of the senseless violence by the 20-year anniversary.

again, this is real. this isn't us making this up. many members of congress told us, we were fabricating our illnesses. i've been to 181 funerals and we have to go back and fight again because we have elected officials in d.c. that would rather see each other lose than if american people win. >> shepard: jon, journalists go all over the world. 9-11 had a smell on to its own if you were in new york and you smelled that smell. if you were here and smelled it, you need to get tested. not to get money or anything but because of a database that is important. >> if it hadn't been for the fdny, they were instrumental in us being about to prove the link to 9-11 cancers. they had a database for all of their members prior to 9-11. >> shepard: of what they came down with -- >> that's right. so they took that and compared it to post 9-11 what the health issues were and they can see the

deviations. that was instrumental. you were seeing 25-year-old guys continue down with sarcoidosis. ray phifer had kidney cancers. things that were anomalies for not only the age population, but the only thing that was close to what it could be were the burn pits in iraq and afghan, the type of health problems for that. there's people dying from the attack of 9-11. for them, it never ended. for first responders, survivors, volunteers. there's still like a ticking time bomb. we just want to make sure that this stays at the fore so these individuals can get the care they need and many cases that they earned and that they're not forgotten. >> shepard: when the bill was introduced in 2010 that made the

funding possible, there was resistance to it which a lot of us here in new york weren't even aware what was happening. we couldn't imagine who from new york or who from america could be against funding for people that were victims of this attack. turns out a lot of them. they were playing politics by doing add-ons to bills. you have this bill to keep first responders going on any victim from going. they would tack on abortion or whatever it was. >> import and export tax. they tried to take the money that could have come out of the transportation bill and holding our bill postage for an import and export bill on oil. >> shepard: thankfully it got through. but do you see the problems this time? if one of your representatives in congress or in the senate or whoever it is that has to do the voting here, the nos, we'll write them down and tell you about them.

i promise that. who has expressed opposition? who has said they can't be for this and why? >> sure. leadership on the republican party has always been against this. >> shepard: why? >> the money. in the beginning when we walked the halls in 2004 and 5 and 6, they said it was a new york issue. then we showed them it was a national issue. they said how are you going to pay for it? that's like the oldest trick in the book. if they want to find money, they find it. science caught up to richie and others because we knew this was going to happen. we said it was happen. the absorption through the nose, mouth and skin. we ate there, slept there, cried there, went to the bathroom there. we got sick because we went to the rush and to protect our city and nation. every september 11th, all of these elected officials still in office from when we've been fighting since 2004, they say we'll never forget 9-11. we'll always remember our heros.

that's b.s. richie and john and i and everyone else from down there, we'll never forget roaming the halls with ray phifer who fought with his brothers and sisters to get this passed because that's the type of person he was and the courage. man, i hope we never have to waste someone else's precious time that they could have with their families on that type of thing. it should no longer be that these guys have the burden of proof to their own government and what happened to them. they were told the air was safe. clearly it wasn't. so you know, in honor of him, these guys will never stop fights. in honor of everybody else. but can't we make this this time finally give them some peace? that's all. >> shepard: you can get more information about september 11th

victim compensation fund and visit vcf.gov. when we wrap up at 4:00 eastern time in 19 minutes, you can join us on facebook watch where we'll have an even longer uncut version of that interview and more with jon stewart on facebook watch and foxnews.com/ -- i should is a i facebook.com/foxnewsupdate. don't matter your politics what a great fight, what a great activist what a wonderful man. it's not just firefighters, police officers and rescue workers that are sick and dying but also agents of the fbi. the fbi director christopher wray was at the 9-11 memorial today. these are pictures from today. he encouraged federal employees to signed up for the victim

compensation fund to get the help they need. rick leventhal who was there at the pile for weeks and weeks after the attacks of 9-11 is at the memorial for us this afternoon. hey, rick. >> shepard, there was one fbi agent that died here on that day, 9-11 at ground zero. at least 15 have died since. they were among the thousands that dropped everything and raced down here in search for the survivors and the victims and to help clear the rubble and the pile. they were breathing without their own knowledge a toxic mix of chemicals and hazardous materials that contributed to 60 different types of cancer and deadly illnesses. that's why christopher wray was here this morning touring the memorial and heading inside the museum to brief some of these federal workers and encourage

them to sign up for help. >> you saw things that you're never going to forget. you'll lived through experiences you never recovered from. so now it's our turn to help you. there are resources that may be available to you. >> nearly 90,000 people have signed up after being exposed here at ground zero, shep. 8,000 over the past year alone. more than 400,000 people living down here, living, working, being exposed. you have a couple years left to sign up for benefits. >> shepard: if you smell it, you should sign up. rick, you signed up? >> not yet. >> shepard: you have to do it so they have the data. it's for the greater good, my friend. >> yeah. >> shepard: rick leventhal. >> i will. i promise. >> shepard: he did a public service in those dark, dark days. the news continues from fox news after this.

>> shepard: the trump

administration is trying to withdraw from a court agreement that limits how long the government can hold children in immigration detention centers. analysts say that could mean the feds will hold immigrant families together but for longer. that is if they are still together. the proposal will likely face legal challenges and the administration has struggled to balance their zero tolerance policy on illegal immigration with this court ruling. jonathan hunt live in los angeles. jonathan, what is the administration's argument here? >> it's one frustration, shep. the recent outcry over separation of children and families at the border. what the administration is saying, okay, we'll keep children with their families but detain the children and families as long as we deemed a quit to process claims.

kristen nielsen says the process is necessary because legal loop holes hinder the department's ability to appropriately detain and promptly remove family units that have no legal basis to remain in the country. now, those loop holes include a law preventing the government holding children i don't 20 days and a law insists that they be held in license child care if faciliif facilitie facilities. agents would be able to decide what is an appropriate facility for holding families with children. the proposal published in the federal register today says its purpose is to "ensure all juveniles in the government's custody are treated with dignity, respect and concern while doing so in a matter that is workable. the public has 60 days in which to comment on this proposal, shep. >> shepard: what are we hearing from immigrant rights groups?

>> they're furious. they say a blatant attempt by the white house to circumvent laws. the american civil liberties union immigrants rights project said it's sickening to see the united states government looking for ways to jail more children for longer. that's the complete opposite of what we should be doing and it's yet another example of the trump administration's hostility towards immigrants resulting in a policy incompatible with the most basic human values. this ultimately will end up back in the courts, shep. >> shepard: jonathan hunt. this weekend, thousands of people will race for a cure in central park. our gerri willis, survivors of all survivors will be there leading the team. we'll talk to her about her fight against breast cancer and why this race is so important. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure?

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>> shepard: thousands of people are ready to show up for the susan g. komen race for the cure in new york city. nobody should die from breast cancer. no man, nor woman. the american cancer society records one in eight women in the united states will face a breast cancer diagnosis at some time in their life and men will too. in central park, we've got the largest race going on. gerri willis from fox business is there leading the charge. doctors diagnosed her with stage 3 breast cancer in 2016. after a very long road of treatment she beat it. as our favorite survivor on this deck at this moment.

we love you and proud of you. tell us what you're expecting here. >> 10,000 people. >> shepard: wow! >> will flood into central park. they're going to support survivors and support what they call thrivers. they're with metatastic breast cancer. and the family and friends of people that were struggling. this affects so many people. when you say that one in eight will get a diagnosis in their lifetime, that means thousands upon thousands of americans know is one or they are that someone that is facing breast cancer. my breast cancer was an aggressive form, lobular stage 3. i fought it for nine months. >> shepard: we were scared. stage 3, that is hard. it's a fight. it's not a guarantee. no guarantees. >> a lot of chemo. the folks from fox reached out all the time.

they wouldn't say gerri, when you coming back to work? they say do you need something? >> shepard: a family, a big now. >> yes. >> shepard: so all right. you have a great team of runners and participators. how can people donate for a cure? >> i have big news to break. we are about to go over $30,000 in donations. nice! we have done it. somebody said. >> shepard: look at the bottom of the screen. we do not have our friends the authors on. this is what we do. see that thing at the bottom of the screen? go to that, give a little money. doesn't go to gerri or me. goes to fight for the cure. >> shepard: that's right. we're done. donate. cavuto is after this. to anticipate is lexus. experience the lexus rx with advanced safety standard. experience amazing.

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>> the economy is doing right now. >> more than 4 million jobs created since the election. >> let's remember when this recovery started. >> it was the weakest recovery we ever had. >> wages were rising. >> the best rage number that we've had in many years. >> suddenly republicans are saying it's a miracle. >> we just started. >> the job numbers are the same as they were in 2015. >> isn't this much more exciting than listening to president obama? >> neil: and let the credit taking and back slapping begin. i'm neil cavuto. this is "your world." and wasn't it odd that we found