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first place. obama gave the bitterly partisan campaign speech, in which he urged voters to support democrats in the midterm election. the subtext was mostly about the omnipresence of white racism, which obama blamed for the rise of trump. but then he got creative. watch, for example, as obama blames the current administration for the exact same russia policy that he once did. >> what happened to the republican party? its central organizing principle in foreign policy was the fight against communism, and now they're cozying up to the former head of the kgb. >> soon obama went back to his

favorite and end lessly occurring theme: racism. here's one quote. "each time we pain stakically pull pull ourselves closer to our ideals, somebody somewhere has pushed back." in other words, republicans just hate equal rights. that's why they elected trump. they're just like slaveholders in the antebellum south. watch obama explain. >> i understand this is not just a matter of republicans versus democrats or liberals versus conservatives. at various times in our history, this kind of politics has infected both parties. southern democrats were the bigger defenders of slavery. >> slavery. see, it's simple. racism did it. interestingly, the one thing obama didn't mention was the death of the american middle class. and that's odd because it was

only in 2015, seven years into obama's presidency, when the middle class became a minority in this country for the first time in living memory. that was the pivotal event of the past several decades. it changed this country profoundly. it is the cause of all of our political turmoil. but to obama, it literally never happened and his policies had nothing to do it. establishment figures burst into applause when they heard that. they don't want to talk about the dying middle class either. so much either to blame racists under the bed. >> chris hahn joins us tonight. is it really that simple? the president said today, if you read the speech carefully, as i did, what most democrats have been saying is it's just racism. republicans, rural people, they couldn't deal with all of the equality, so it's a backlash and

they elected trump. is that really the explanation? >> i don't think that's really what he said today. and i think it's rich -- >>that is what he said. >> i think it's rich for anybody to say that norms were not being followed today, because norms have not been followed for the last 20 months by this president. >> that's true. >> i think it's time every good american start pushing back. it was a rallying cry to the entire country. >> it was a campaign speech designed to get democrats elected. he's a democrat. i'm not begrudging that. one, if you're against overturning norms, then surely it must bother you that recently retired president is giving a campaign speech. we have a norm that they don't do that. he just did. since you're a defender of norms, you're not bothered. >> no. i just don't think that the people who love freedom and love our constitution in this country should universally disarm to a

president who has decided to push every arm, including calling on the press to turn someone over to the government, which the republican party used to think that obamacare was tyranny. don't you think that's more tyrannical? >> whatever. it's such a talking point. look, that's fine. but just don't lecture me about norms again. if it's bad for trump to overturn norms, which he's certainly done. i'm not denying that. obviously, he has. >> completely. >> he has. and obama just did it again today. but that's cool and what trump is doing is bad? but let's get back to the race thing, because i think it's real. i read the speech. i watched the speech. again and again, he says this is part of a long cycle in american history. he says out loud. where we enfranchise certain groups in the country and certain reactionary elements hate that and so they strike

that. he just said that. he blamed this on racism. and i'm asking you, do you think that's true? is that really what the trump election was about, racism? >> i watched the speech and then i read it again in preparing for this show. and president obama said that there are genuinely people in this country that fear change, and it's not because of race. that's what he said today. >> i said the quote. >> are there people in this country that have a racial element to their politics? of course there are, tucker. we both agree on that. >> yeah, obama is first on that list, i would say. but let me ask you, honestly, if you're assessing what's going on in america, shouldn't you mention the death of the middle class in your speech? during his presidency, the middle class for the first time in anyone's lifetime became a minority in this country. that caused a ton of anxiety

that resulted in trump's election. he doesn't mention that. why? >> president obama resuscitated the economy, including many industries that would have just gone away had it not been for the policies of the obama administration. and you're right. many businesses took a hit by the obama administration. >> i'm not defending george w. bush. >> let's be clear. >> i don't think it is. and i'm not here to tout republicans, who i attack regularly on this show. i just want someone to stop lying and concede that this is not about racism. it's about the death of our middle class, which sustained the country for 100 years. can you admit that? >> i think the pressure on the middle class has absolutely contributed to our politics. and it's caused people who are under stress to take it out in

ways that are not necessarily good. >> yeah, that's probably true. but we should fix the problem. racism, racism. oh, god, all right. we're out of time. >> we should fix the problem. and i don't think that this president is capable of doing it. >> yeah, maybe screaming "racist" will fix the problem. during his speech, president obama said it's time for women to have more power. watch. >> out of this political darkness, i'm seeing a great awakening. it's a movement of citizens who happen to be younger, more diverse, and more female than ever before, and that's really useful. we need more women in charge. >> he could have done his part, by the way. i think he ran against a woman, a woman who came closer than any other woman in american history to becoming president, but he sabotaged her campaign in part by calling her a racist?

her name is hillary clinton. i don't know why this doesn't surprise me. this is yet another guy who flies in private planes lecturing us about carbon emissions. another guy lecturing us about how we need more women in power. how much hypocrisy are they capable of? a lot. >> he's also giving a speech in denmark whose staff didn't want his amount being paid disclosed. this is barack obama. they don't have any ideas that appeal on a popular scale. what is their campaign sign going to read? give us more of your money, government's just too small, we need more of it. they can't run on that. so their deliberate strategy is to fully engage in identity

politi politics. hence the racism line. and it gets people to believe that the democrats -- don't vote for us. vote against those guys, the republicans, because they're the real bad guys and we're going to be the ones to save you. it's a cynical and tactical strategy by the democrats. it's disgusting. i hate. >> if they get up and say anyone who opposes your ideas hate you because of your skin color, people believe that. >> it goes back to critical theory, which has been taught in school forever. the white patriarchal power structure, that power somehow is going to be necessary for them to acquire back at any cost, to deconstruct this whole thing that led to where we are now. but you can only do that by divorcing people from facts and data and getting them knee-deep

in a quagmire of emotion. and the only way to generate that hatred toward your opponents is to say the most awful things. it's the only way to win. >> i can't remember the last time i heard someone make a straightforward economic argument on either side. i would be grateful to hear it no matter what the argument was. i want to hear someone make a serious argument that doesn't have to do with motive, or your intent, or moral character, or racism. tell me what the economics are. no one does. >> they can't. >> you're right, they can't. that's a great point. dan bongino. i always learn something. thank you. former trump campaign advisor george papadopoulos was sentenced today. it was exclusively for lying to federal agents. the judge said today that he

believes papadopoulos showed no desire to help russia or hurt the united states. in other words, clearly there was no collusion. papadopoulos' defense was getting caught up in an endless fishing expedition that to date has not had one iota of evidence. washington becoming more brazen in its calls to end the latest presidency without bothering to hold a vote. before they stop democracy, we would like to ask a few questions about what they believe and what they intend to do when they retake power. that's next. >> plus, today was the fourth straight day of hearings for kavanaugh. someone who spoke on the judge's behalf will join us just ahead. the same?

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we don't need an election or even impeachment trial, they're telling us. the cabinet can just end trump's presidency right now. it's that simple. they want to remove it because they don't like his policies and want to do it with no election of their own. it sounds like a coup. but that's what they're calling for. maybe they're succeed in it. before that happens, the people hoping to regain power should have to explain. they've tried to make anyone who disagrees with them shut up. and they've lectured us endle endlessly about diversity, as if that answers the question. >> our diversity is not a

weakness. >> our great strength lies in our diversity. >> we know our diversity is a strength, not a weakness. >> well, they all know that. we won't stop talking. if the president is going to be removed from office without a single vote from anybody outside of washington, d.c., then we deserve to be simple questions answered. so here goes. first, how is our current immigration system made america more stable and prosperous? in your answer, please explain what happened to the state of california. it used to be called a golden state, a thriving middle class, and the best schools. now the schools are a complete disaster, the middle class is vanishing. how exactly did that happen? next, how precisely is diversity

a strength? since you made this our new national motto, please be specific as you explain it. can you think of other institutions such as marriage in which the less people have in common, the more cohesive they are? do you get along better with your neighbors or co-workers if you can't understand each other? and if diversity is our strength, why is it okay to surrender our rights? if your ideas are so obviously true, why does anyone who questions them need to be shamed and fired. why is it once again acceptable, even encouraged, to attack people on the basis of their skin color? and since we're asking, if it's now possible to change your sex, is it possible to change your

race, too? if not, tell us why. and be specific. after spending more than a trillion dollars in thousands of lives attacking afghanistan, iraqi, and libya, and getting nothing for it, why does it make sense to start new wars? and why should we still treat russia as our main enemy, while completely ignoring china, which actually is? and how is it fair to use public resources to bail out reckless financial institutions that caused the last economic collapse? which other enterprises are eligible for tax dollars once they go bankrupt? does it apply to my household budget, for example? and san francisco better off covered in hypodermic needles and human waste? how about detroit and gary, indiana?

weren't you in charge of those cities. we've got a lot more questions. we could go on, but we'll start with those. washington should answer those questions first. we're going to start by asking quentin james. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> so we hear a lot about trump is bad, we're breaking norms. some of that i won't defend. but what we never hear about is the ideas of the people who seek to take his place, to regain power. and they're the people who came up with all the ideas that the public rejected to the extent that they elected donald trump. so my question is, have they repudiated those ideas? are democrats against it now? have their views change? what are they for, i guess is my question to you. >> thank you for having me on. >> of course. >> hillary clinton got more

votes than donald trump. so i don't know if the republic repudiated the entire democrat platform there. >> 61 million people is a significant chunk, i would say. >> she still got three million more votes. i think when it comes to what democrats believe in, i'm really excited about november when democrats will take over congress and we'll see a democratic agenda move on, raising the minimum wage, reforming our immigration system, dealing with our healthcare coasts rising right now. i think what we've seen over the past two years of donald trump is a complete shutdown of congress moving forward and moving anything substantial politically in terms of policy. >> wait, i thought we were mad because congress has done all these evil things and wrecked the congress. you might want to check your talking points. i want to know, for example, our democrats who backed the

bailouts of the banks in 2008, are they committed to not doing that again, democrats who supported killing gaddafi in libya, have they rethought this at all or are they still the war party? >> i'm not here to defend policy from the last administration. i think what we're challenged with right now is our current administration and an, again, almost complete standstill in terms of moving legislation forward. if you look around the the nation, where we have democrats leading some of our cities and states, they're taking these issues to the forefront and moving things forward. but the standstill right now -- >>you make a fair point. you're right. and i think they should fund the wall immediately. and i think you agree with me. >> no. >> but let me just ask you this. so we have a kind of case study here because the state of california, our biggest state,

is a one-party state run entirely by democrats. it was the richest state when i grew up there. it's now got more poverty than any state. it's billions in debt it will never pay and its cities are cesspools. would you say that's a model for the rest of the country? >> the last i checked, i think governor brown has a surplus for the first time in years in california's budget. >> just to clarify, california has more debt obligations than this country could pay. so, no, there's no -- that's just ridiculous. >> i'm just speaking on the facts. but, again, i don't think we should look at one state as a model to run our entire nation. >> well, why not? it's a democratic state. it's the biggest state. >> no, again, we're not here to confuse the issues of california will become the united states. right now -- >>okay. so name -- okay, okay. then i'll just make it easy for

you. name a place the democrats have run for at least 20 years and reassure me that america will become more like that place. >> i think if we looked at the past two democratic presidencies of bill clinton and president barack obama, look at the economy and jobs numbers. donald trump inherited an amazing economy. and now if we look at what's happening in the country, he's taking credit for what we saw in barack obama. >> i gave you a chance. little too -- all right. quentin, thank you so much for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. today was the fourth and final day of the brett kavanaugh hearing. a hillary supporter who testified on kavanaugh's behalf will join us next. she's saying a whole lotta people want to buy this house. but you got this! rocket mortgage by quicken loans makes the complex simple. understand the details and get approved in as few as eight minutes. by america's largest mortgage lender.

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well, amazon is a trillion-dollar company, but despite that mammoth valuation, some of its workers are so poor, they are on food stamps which you are paying for. we have criticized amazon and other big tech companies and non-tech companies too like walmart for this arrangement. we've praised some figures we normally disagree with like bernie sanders for disagreeing. she says our attacks on amazon are ridiculous. amy peikoff explains why. >> i'm well but i'm confused. so you're a libertarian, and i think a pretty rigorous thinker. i don't know why it would be okay for the richest people in our society in effect to rely on corporate welfare to get even

richer. why is that a good thing? >> to be clear, i'm against corporate welfare. but i'm seeing these attacks on big tech quite unfair and actually un-american. we're in america. and we celebrates innovation, entrepreneurship, success, wealth creation. why go after amazon in particular? jeff besos has improved our lives tremendously. and he's not using any government benefits anybody else doesn't have access to. it's about him and his ingenious idea to create this business. >> wait. i'm not attacking jeff besos's innovation or business acumen. i admire both of those. he's the richest person in human

history. and for that reason, i find it disgusting and wrong that he would have people working for him that are so poor that i'm paying for their food stamps. >> it's not his fault that the food stamp program exists. i mean, people are working for him for whatever productive value it is that he is provided by them. >> that's the wage rate. >> but i'm not -- hold on. i just want to be clear. i'm not blaming him for food stamps, of course. i'm blaming him for paying his employees so little that they qualify for food stamps. you can't get food stamps unless you make under a certain threshold. >> there are a number of things at play here. the fact that he's able to have employees in part because they are compensated by food stamps, that is, sure, a benefit that he gets.

a lot of other companies are doing that, too. maybe it's because he's liberal. >> not true. i'll tell you why. because he's the richest man in the world and i believe that you have an obligation to -- >>and he's earned it. >> -- i don't know, your children, employees, people who are dependent upon you. you have a moral obligation to make sure that you do something for them in exchange for what they do for you. >> why does he have a moral obligation to pay them any more than they're worth to him in terms of productive ability? >> because the powerful have an obligation to take care of the less powerful, i think that's fair to say. >> and why is that? why? >> because i think that's inherent in our christian owed, our judaic understanding. our religious perspective commands us to protect the weak. >> christian code is a based on

faith, tucker. so you're going to need to provide a secular argument for that moral duty. >> i'm being honest about why i feel that way. and i realize when i'm doing that, i'm opening myself up for attack. let me finish. i'm actually going to finish -- amy, amy, excuse me. let me finish my sentence, which is to say it would have been easier to say what a secular person would say, which is decency requires it. but you don't have to believe in decency or a moral code to believe that it's wrong for taxpayers to pay his labor cost. >> what we need to do is we need to eliminate the program that is paying for his labor costs. we don't blame an innovative person like jeff besos for doing whatever he can within the semi-free economy that we have.

he's created a tremendous amount of wealth. >> for himself. his employees are on food stamps. you don't see that as grotesque? >> tucker, listen, i don't get paid anything to be on your show. i come here because it is worth my while to be able to say things to try to improve -- >>all right. >> they are choosing to voluntarily go and work for whatever it is that jeff besos is offering them. do you want to take it away from them >> >>it's so disgusting, yes. an interview on monday, an amazon employee living in her car. we're going to get her perspective on it. amy, thank you very much. all sides of the political spectrum buy sneakers. so why is nike targeting one-half?

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>>nike is a huge company and their decision to make colin kaepernick the star of their ad campaign wasn't just a political statement, it was a business decision. is it paying off? nike's stock is still down from where it was in the beginning of the week. jesse kelly is a marine corps combat veteran. he's a former congressional candidate and he joins us today. do you think this was a -- leaving aside your personal views on this, do you think it was a wise decision for nike to do this? >> no, it's idiotic. but i understand they're putting out these statements that they're focusing on the urban environment and young people.

but what sense does it make to focus on poor people? you need to focus on entire country. nike was built on the back of michael jordan who says republicans buy shoes too. they could have chose anybody for this 30th anniversary of the just do it campaign and it chose colin kaepernick. they act like it means you're changing the world. just because you ride a jackass doesn't mean you're jesus christ. >> i really believe in social justice really strongly, but i don't hate america. these people hate america. the whole point is you're kneeling during the national anthem. it's an attack on the united states. why do people who say they identify with social just have to hate the country? >> it's no different than people who love abortion call it

women's reproductive rights. they master language and try to shame other people when they try to speak the truth. colin kaepernick is just a guy. he's an employee that violated the one rule, which is make sure your talent outweighs your baggage. he's out of the nfl. >> that's pretty funny. but wait, i don't think you're giving him his due. nike told us that he is the bravest person in human history, certainly american history. i mean, you served the united states marine corps in combat. did you ever meet anyone as brave as colin kaepernick? >> i'll tell you, all the brothers in arms that i served with, none of them had the braver to make $39 million in the nfl and then move on to get paid by the biggest shoe brand in the world. i think he should get whatever

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nuclear weapons. and this is a dumpster fire. it is a dangerous dumpster fire. >> it is a dumpster fire we need somebody to put it out. speak with a dumpster fire in washington isn't just about donald trump, although he certainly has contribute a lot to the dumpster fire. >> tucker: richard painter joins us. thank you very much for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: it has come to our attention this obsession with dumpster fire. fire, this fire that you cutr an ad about fire. are you a pyromaniac? >> no, i don't think so. we could think of other analogies or metaphors but most of the metaphors i could think of describe what is going on in washington would be entirely inappropriate on national television. so, i think the dumpster fire is a good one. >> tucker: but we couldn't help but notice -- wait, i don't know if you can see the picture next to you on the screen, this is from your ad that you had up a couple of months ago. we showed this to our

experts and they all point out the same thing there is a fire going on behind you and you do nothing to put it out. why is that? there is a dumpster fire but you take no affirmative action to put it out? >> we had water go on that fire at the end of that ad. >> tucker: what you played no role. you seem to be basking in its warmth, and yet you did not try to douse it. suspect there is something going on here. >> there is dumpster fires in washington, i suggest a lot of way to clean that up and get the money out of politics. that is a problem for both political parties. and we have president trump going to drain the swamp. they got a lot of conflict of interest. we need to get people out of washington have financial conflicts of interest. that includes the democrats with $5 million -- >> tucker: hold - on. there is a fire wait, hold on. it doesn't even make sense. honestly with respect. i know you are an attorney and law professor.

there is a fire going on but you want to drain the swamp at the same time? is that even safe? >> no, what i'm talking about is we need to. >> tucker: i'm sorry i'm lost in metaphor land here. >> whether you want to talk about the strain of the swamp or putting out the dumpster fire or some other met for that can't be appropriate. >> tucker: don't you see how wreckless it is to do i both? hear what you are saying, richard, take a step back here. fly like a drone above yourself and look down and assess. you are saying there is a fire in progress but we must drain the swamp. would any responsible person drain the swamp in the middle of a fire? >> i didn't come up with the drain the swamp language. that was donald trump.n' he hasn't drained anything. he brought a bunch of backfill in new york new jersey and wherever he found everybody come down with financial conflicts of interest. you know, democrats have their problems, too. let's focus on. fixing -- >> tucker: are they on fire,

too? >> financial conflicts of interest. they have the whole me too thing yet they can't figure out what's going on with keith ellison out in minnesota.a. the democrat would have. ra>> tucker: whoa, stop. and i agree with that of course. my question is do theirh problems qualify as a dumpster fire or merely maybe a malfunctioning a microwave? where on the kind of heat scale would you put their problems? >>ht i would say they are rightn there with republicans. washington, d.c., is a dumpster fire and we are going to put it out until we get the money out of politics, get the politicians -- >> tucker: basically you take the republican dumpster fire and put them together and you have a compilation there. >> everybody accuses the other party of being corrupt. as i say they don't bother. >> tucker: the man who stood in front of a burning dumpster who did nothing to but the it out. we have got to go. richard, good luck. get the hose, take control, put out that fire. good to see you. that is it for us this week.

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