your and your families. you are in our prayers. we will be following more of this on the fox news channel. we are not to destroy-trump-media. a lot of news comes your way because there she is, laura ingraham is standing by the nation's capital's capital. >> laura: john, great to see you. great show tonight. welcome to "the ingraham angle." i'm laura ingraham in washington. do we have a show for you tonight. msnbc's joe scarborough saying that the president is doing more damage to the country than 9/11. the man who was commissioner of the fdny during those horrific attacks is here to respond. plus newt gingrich joins us tonight with how the media is using 9/11 as a weapon against trump. plus his messaging advice to the g.o.p. this november. and a "the ingraham angle" follow-up: former new england patriot matt light is here to blow the whistle on how the nfl is making a mess out of dealing with the anthem protests protests.

but first, time to build the wall. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." ♪ it is one of the president's cornerstone issues, and one that he continues to invoke at rally after rally. >> and we are building a wall on the southern border, which is absolutely necessary. and we will build the wall. that i can tell you. [chanting "build the wall"] >> do not worry, we are going to build the wall. okay? don't even think about it. >> laura: well, congress intends to put nine spending bills on the president's desk by the end of september and the end of the dash close of the fiscal year. but there is no funding for the wall. >> we start learn favor of the wall. we still want to get funding for the wall. but we think the best time to have that discussion is after the election. >> laura: i think mcconnell and ryan have made a political

calculation that funding, or even talk of the wall, will spook photos before the midterm midterms. they've even convinced the president of this. here he is last week. >> we are getting the wall done but i have heard so many people, good people, great people, they'd rather not do it before that, they'd rather do it right after the election. they don't want to do anything that will upset the apple cart, and my inclination -- if it was up was up to me, i would shut down government, build border security. [cheers and applause] >> laura: well, mr. president, your inclination is right. this wall must be pelts. he claims he is a commitment from mcconnell and ryan to vote on the wall and its funding after the midterm. but if you are worried about turning out the republican base, wouldn't into make sense to turk about the wall, get it done? years with my radio listeners are today. >> the trump rally that i want

to, nobody was chanting "3% gdp." they were chanting build the wall. that is why they voted for this cath. >> we can take care of the rest of the world, but not our own people. >> begin our build the wall campaign by all trump supporters. i've got my donation ready to send in and millions of trump supporters are ready to donate, too. >> there would be a huge of bread rate if they would finally do their job and what they promised. >> laura: this is a winning issue for republicans and the necessary security measure for america at this perilous moment moment. on this 9/11 anniversary, just look at what we spent to protect ourselves. according to the stimson center report, since 9/11, the u.s. has spent at least $2.8 trillion on counterterrorism. 15% of our discretionary budget goes to fund counterterrorism efforts across the government. in 2017 alone, congress

dedicated 175 for $170 billiont terrorism. that doesn't count for the trillions that was planted in iraq, afghanistan, the work we've done in syria and pakistan. a browned university study estimates that the total core of the war since 9/11 could be a staggering $5.6 trillion. so we lay out all this money to enforce other country's borders, but we can't afford $20 billion to enforce and fortify our own? our porous border remains one of our greatest national security threats. since fiscal year 2001, there have been more than 11.6 million illegal border crossings along our southern border. and engines the last few days, the border patrol and the rio grande valley reports that they have arrested in the united states eight ms-13 and

18th street gang members. five predators, some wanted by authorities, and of course they frustrated drug smuggling attempt of the same time. well, that is just a few days, and only one region of the border. how do these people get into our country? and my table all stop the flow of illegals who pose a criminal and possible national security threat to our citizens? i disagree with the good people the president referenced earlier. now is the time to talk about the wall and to awaken citizens to the ongoing threat posed by an open border. and particularly on 9/11, we should remind people of the horror visited upon us by five hijackers who overstayed their visas. it is a whole separate issue. think of this -- as of 2017, we have over 700,000 people here on expired freezes. that is even separate from the

wall. this is total madness. all of this, but controlling our border, who comes in, and who goes out of the country should be one of the top priorities. it's not -- if not our top prio. this summer, reuters found that immigration was the top issue for floaters going into the midterms. if republicans want to really motivate their face and come out and vote and one at some of the security in the process, give them what they want. fund the wall immediately. attach it to one of those spending bills going to the president at the end of the month. now i know people are worried about a government shutdown. but this isn't -- this isn't a small deal. if this isn't done now, mitch mcconnell. i am telling you, if they are not smart enough to know this at this point, they are never going to know it, and this wall will never be built. and that is the "angle."

joining us now the reaction is univision anchor henrique acevedo, along with grayson allen, deputy chief border patrol for the laredo, texas, border sector. great to see both of you. let's start with you, henrique. these interest a few of the facts, border patrol facts along our southwest border. fiscal year '17, 415,191 border apprehensions, physically '16, 563,000 come apart to be 15, 440,000 come '14, 559,000, a part should '13, 489,000. this is what, henrique, our border patrol is up against. so why not make their job easier by having a physical barrier in place to lighten their load so they can look for the bad guys? >> there's already a 700-mile wall along the u.s.-mexico border -- >> laura: the 2,000-mile border. >> we have 21,000 well armed men and what you call an open

border. we have drones, we have military grade surveillance -- >> laura: how do they get across, henrique? hold on. i want this to be a productive conversation. >> sure. >> laura: so when i go through the stats -- i think we put them on the screen -- we are talking 11.6 million people who have been apprehended at our southwest border since america was under attack. we lost almost 3,000 americans. okay? that is a security problem. and we might have some wall and i understand we have some fencing but we have, like, 170 miles along the laredo sector alone that is completely open. people can walk across or swim across. that is the problem. >> i'm glad you want to make this a constructive conversation conversation, laura. you just had 3,000 u.s. citizens lost their lives on 9/11. there were at least 400 non-u.s. citizens, 90 countries law citizens on my day. >> laura: exactly. >> not just u.s. citizens. it goes to show you that the multiculturalism, the diversity

was also a target, under attack by terrorists on that day. that is why they chose new york city, that is why they chose -- >> laura: let's get to the wall. let's focus this conversation. jason, i got to go to you. we got to move this forward. the line for a bit more of an open borders crowd is a wall is unnecessary superfluous, you were on the ground every day, in san antonio now, on the ground every day, your border agents are doing their best, what a wall help or not? >> let me put the answer is simple -- yes, it absolutely would. i can tell you, henrique is right, we do have a 700 miles of border along a 2,000-mile border. it's not enough. what we have right now is not enough to fully secure the border. we had nearly 20,000 men and women in the u.s. border patrol, almost 2,000 and the laredo sector alone. it's not enough. we still have people getting through, we still have people coming across our border that we don't know about. if we want to have a secure border, we want to truly protect this country and what it stands

for, these are things that we need. the subject matter experts that have done is drop for decades on end, are telling us, we need a wall, we need infrastructures, we need roads to be as bold to respond, cameras to detect the traffic coming across and we need the brave men and women out there to do the job right. >> laura: you guys are the facts in the "angle" parade $175 billion, just in fiscal year '2017 on countermeasures. and we can find $25 billion over a period of time to pay for a physical barrier? it's not everything. but it's a statement and it will stop a lot of the flow. we saw the operation gatekeeper in the san diego sector, that cut down border patrol -- border crossings by 89%. that was started under bill clinton. then ultimately expanded under george w. bush. so henrique, mexico has the right to ask, and protect their borders, guatemala has the right to protect their heirs,

every country has that inherent right, that sovereign right to protect who comes in and know what their intentions are. you agree with that, correct? >> of course. we have spent over $100 billion and since 9/11 militarizing our south border. that is a fact. the money has been used to militarize our border, great cost for a once dynamic border communities and immigrants, human rights, instead of being part of a broader strategy, border enforcement has become the only strategy. so i think that is where we have to really look at what has been going on over the last 50, 60 years. why don't we invest more in finding the root causes of immigration? why wait until people are at our door and tried to build a wall to solve something that has to do with structural issues, like poverty, violence, things that we are seeing in central -- >> laura: we are dealing with a lot of violence. >> building a wall will not stop that. >> laura: we are dealing with a lot of violence, as i noted in

this be 23, just in this last week, ms-13, 18 street gang members, among the most vicious -- not just in the united states, in the world -- have been apprehended crossing the border. the problem without having a wall, the flow was so great. tens of thousands coming across every month. you can't catch everyone. the wall slows down the flow. you brought up the issue of militarizing the border, henrique. i want to read this. this is a quote from an op-ed that you wrote recently. "militarizing the borders of the mnes would do, not friends and strategic partners. immigration is an economic issue and it won't be solved by having more armed guards at the front door. 2,000-mile wall won't seal the border, it was suffocated." i will let jason deal with that. are you a part of the militarization strategy, you end your agents, decent? doesn't that hurt, according to henrique, the relations between mexico and the united states? >> no, actually it does not. so we are a law enforcement

organization, part of customs and border protection, cdp, along with providing border security, our job is to facilitate lawful trade and travel. that is a very important mission and it serves both sides of the border. one of the things that is important to remember is what, we are not just talking about the flow, the volume of traffic coming across. what that consists of. you referenced ms-13 members and gang members. i can tell you in my sector alone, 1 of 9 along the southwest border, we have already caught almost 50 known gang members this year alone. over 770 criminal aliens that have been deported and came back after committing violent crimes, murder, assault, rape, you name it. there's of the type of folks that we are concerned with. we need to know about, we need to know that they are coming across and we need to be able to stop them. awol helps us do that. it also perpetuates wolf lawful trade and travel because it takes the criminal element away. if they cannot exploit the weekend border, they have no reason to exist.

both sides of the border, both communities thrive. >> laura: real quick, henrique. >> just want to say, we can name one example of a successful terrorist attack on u.s. soil involving a crossing between the u.s. -- >> laura: how many people have flown planes into u.s. buildings before 9/11? >> what i'm saying is, why are we focusing on the border -- >> laura: okay, i'm glad we got to that. henrique, you really -- you really aren't for border enforcement or any wall or any fence. you've actually believe in open borders and a free flow of peope and goods. i just wish more people would say that because it would make the conversation a lot easier. part of this world, open borders, open markets, free thought, whatever their lingo is. otherwise, awol but actually make their relationship with with mexico better because we could go through normal ports of entry and control trade and control the people in the flow. it would be much better. much better. gentlemen, we are out of time. thank you so much. great segment. by the way, a shocking story of

media depravity on the most solemn day for this country. an op-ed for "the washington post" shows that msnbc's joe scarborough complaining that the president is a greater danger to the united states than foreign terrorists, something he expanded on this morning. >> if you strip america of its ideas, forget about knocking down buildings in the financial district. forget about running planes into the pentagon. those are tragedies, but those tragedies bring us closer together. america is an idea. you got to america of that idea, that is when you do the most harm to americans. this seems to me a far graver threat to the idea of america. >> laura: here to respond as new york fire department commissioner during 9/11, thomas. tom, first of all, it's a solemn day for all of the firefighters in new york and across this country, police, first responders, all the

victims and their families. thank you for your service to new york, all of those here and especially on 9/11. i had to get your thoughts on this. joe scarborough, saying the president is more dangerous to america than the 9/11 terrorist terrorists. >> it is even worse when you hear him say it. it is pretty upsetting. being at the ceremony this morning, it was one of the family members got up, he was begging politicians and the press to stop politicizing september 11th. to stop using families as fodder for opinions on one side or the other. these are folks that mostly, all of them actually, innocent people on airplanes, and buildings, firefighters, police officers, emergency, first responders, who just try to go when i make a difference, and tried to help people and get them out of harm's way. i have known at least i would say between five to ten of the firefighters, good friends of

mine, whose kids grew up and went to military academies, all with the idea of going in the military, serving the country, serving to honor their father. most of those fathers were really special guys. the best of the best we had. we had some really great people. so i was really doubt if you asr west point or the kids who went on the job to honor their parents or their fathers how they felt about the police officers on the firefighters. i think you might get a very different version of the politics about the president, who we should be working to help, no matter what our opinions are, comparing them to a grave threat from a foreign nation. >> laura: it's easy to make these comments from from a comy studio in manhattan, i guess. i don't know, i just kept thinking of that day, and what we were seeing on the ground, and all of the firefighters who walked up when everyone else was walking down. those buildings shaking and

falling. senator angus king in maine, he compared russian election meddling, tom, with 9/11. let's watch. >> they used airplanes into the towers. now people can use the click of a computer key from st. petersburg, russia, to attack. it's an attack that continues, and it's the same kind of attack today that occurred in 2001. >> laura: so rational action meddling, serious, but it's basically the same kind of attack as 9/11. i don't even know it is a true these people at this point. i am wanting your opinion. >> there is no comparison. i don't know how reasonable people, if they were just thinking about the folks that were involved, the firefighters involved, the civilians involved, people who worked at wall street, people whose wives want to break the day day, people whose sons and daughters unto burke, and we were

lost because we were loss of some evil, sick people because they wanted to hurt a country that they heard it so much, a civilization they hated so much, a way of life they hurt so much. of these politicians would do their job that they swore to do, we wouldn't have half of these issues that we have. i don't know how they take paychecks and go home every night. i don't understand how somebody takes -- if you don't do your job as a soldier, you pay a price. with these politicians, they are not doing their job. they haven't done their job as far as immigration or any of these issues for 20, 25 years. i am not really too hopeful on them doing it now. >> laura: tom, i just can't believe we are still debating whether the country needs to have a secure border, all these years. i'm not just talking about trump. obama, bush, all these years, we still want to have a secure border. i mean, thousands of people crossing the border. it is a security threat. it is a security threat. tom, thank you so much. it is great to see you tonight

and our prayers are always with new york, shanksville, and washington, d.c. thank you so much. when we come back, newt gingrich has a critical piece of advice for president trump and the g.o.p. to end in november. don't go away. to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.

>> laura: as we discussed in the "angle" tonight, president trump is a letter critical cisterns to make as the mudroom's approach, including regarding the wall. the stakes cannot be higher for the president, his agenda, and the future of the republican party, and the country. what what should his priority be? prancer coat, let's bring in former house speaker newt gingrich who has a great series about this on his website, gingrich productions.com, that everyone should check out. let's talk about this. first, on the wall, i can tell you, my radio listeners plastered me with calls today after we learned that nine spending balls that will be delivered to the president, at the end of this month, no funding for the wall. not a penny. it zero. after that was one of the key campaign promises of president trump, and he is express his or her. her desire to have that thing built. >> i think he ought to be

pushing for the wall. i think the contrast between democrats who want open borders, which would flood the country with people, and the president's desire to control our border is pretty dramatic. i would not recommend that because the government. i don't think we are in a position to explain it and i don't think it gets us very far. but i think he had to keep pushing for it and i think after the election, confidence congre a continuing resolution at some point. he can be much tougher. between now and the election, he's begun to draw a really big contrast, the speech he gave in montana began to draw the right contrast between, as he put it, democrats who want to abolish i.c.e. and republicans who want to abolish ms-13. i will be a little surprised if he doesn't get some things done because i know with my own conversations with mick mulvaney, the director of the budget, they do have some money and they are in fact building

parts of the wall right now. >> laura: all i know is that it's about $130 billion a year for all the services that illegal immigrants get in the united states. $872,000 per illegal immigrant, 94,000 per illegal immigrant child in the united states. i mean, this is a huge amount of money we threw around, including in other countries, which, i know we have to spend but most voters hear this, like, why can't you fund the money -- find the money to build this wall? it will stick in the craw of our voters. i'm telling you. it is a sticking point and i'm glad the president is pushing more at what we need that money. steve bannon yesterday on the show made a point about whether or not this is an election where you can still persuade people in the midterms. let's watch. >> trump has been at war with the permanent political class. a month ago, i started this film, feeling that by the time we had the run-up, it will boot be like the tea party movement. we needed these rally films to

get people in power. this film is for the base plus to get them excited. >> laura: his point was, this is going to be a base election, he wants people to watch his film, you were not going to persuade people going down the home stretch. it's only turning out your base. i do with that? >> no. i think he's half right. we have to turn out the base. the president has to convince people to vote. if we don't have the base, we lose. it's not complicated. in addition, if we pose a choice between an open borders democrat, for example, gavin newsom's proposal in california, to give free health care to every illegal immigrant who comes to california, that is so crazy that you can run like a huge block of people who aren't normally your base, but they are sure not going to go to have their tax money go to encourage people from the whole planet to come to california for health care. i think we have issues that could actually win back election

i dramatically broaden our base. i would agree with steve. we have to turn out the base. people who care about trump have to for this fall or we are just playing loose. >> laura: newt, now barack obama has been dispatched as the not so secret weapon for the democrats. we don't need to play the sound bites. we talk about donald trump, resentment, paranoia, he's dividing a mayor, it's my recovery, obama's recovery. how effective is obama going to be? two term president, very popular in the country still. is that something to consider and the republicans? >> i think we have to take them head-on who told us at saddleback church that he believed in marriage between man and woman because it came straight from the bible and he believed it. this is the guy who told us you could to keep your doctor. you get to keep your health insurance. this is the guy who said there was a redline in syria not exactly one year later said he never said there was a redline n

syria. barack obama is a left-winger who spent his entire career denying reality. one simple example: we lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs under obama. we've already gained 400,000 under trump. i like that choice. i think you want to go back to obama, higher unemployment, fewer jobs, more food stamps, let's have that debate. but we need to have the courage to take head-on the real obama, not "the new york times" fantasy version. >> laura: would you waste time going after the anonymous and the white house, finding out who it is? lie detector tests or interrogations, or is that kind of a dead end? >> first of all, i do think that if there is somebody currently working in federal government who is leaking when you have national security concerns, that's a legitimate concern and we have to find out who they are. i think second, i just tell everybody, think of bob

woodward's book. there is fiction -- that are is what it is. remember, either piece i'm writing right now on all the things people said about lincoln. lincoln was far more constantly attacked than trump is ever been. i think we had to put this in context. these two things are trivial. in the real world, we are creating jobs, we are reducing unemployment, we are doing remarkably well, and , and thate real question is fall. more jobs or do you want to go back to food stamps for the democrats? >> laura: the economy is on fire, and a 9/11 of course, the democrats focus on one trump's gesture was when he got off the plane, i guess in shanksville. let's watch what you are in stock. >> it's not even about the commander-in-chief when what is appropriate. he's missing a human screw. how do people react in a day like 9/11? this is not rocket science. >> laura: basically, the ongoing story that you heard in

the woodward book et cetera that donald trump's has no empathy, and that is why you shouldn't vote for republicans in the midterms. >> look, i think the fact is, if you have empathy, you have the lowest level of black unemployment in history, that is very good. the lowest level of latino unemployment in history, that is very good. all those people who now have jobs, that is a lot of empathy. this whole effort to attack trump personally because they can't compete with him on policy, they can't compete with them on performance, there is something pathetic about the level of personal assault that goes on every single day. >> laura: newt, thank you so much as always. democrats have made it clear that impeachment is on the ballot this november. former clinton investigator ken starr thinks that such a damaging course for this country. he'll tell us my next.

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>> if they say, maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore. when they say that, and i say, "impeachment, impeachment, impeachment." >> you've already said you support impeachment of the president. >> it is certainly something that needs to be on the agenda. >> bill clinton was impeached but not removed from office. we don't want to be in a situation where the president is deranged and we have nothing we can do about it. >> laura: the midterms are fast approaching and some democrats are having a tougher time hiding their obsession with impeachment. ken starr, the man who led the clinton investigation and the '90s that brought about the former president impeachment because the process held for the country. he said with a new book today titled "contempt: a memoir for clinton investigation." we also joined by former u.s. attorney and fox news contributor andy mccarthy. gentlemen, it is great to see you. judge starr, let's go to you first. i don't remember the 1998 like it was yesterday, and all that

was happening at the time, bill clinton at the time had about a 40% approval rating, 42%, mid 40s. but after he was impeached, his rating approval numbers started going up, up. is that what you are thinking what will happen if the democrats go for the brass ring on impeachment? >> it could very well happen because the american people become a part of the message in my book, is be careful what you ask for. because i do think impeachment is held. as hell to go through for the american people and even though they are very strong feelings on one side and then on the other side, that is not our system. we have impeachment in the constitution. it's an important last resort. the country did not feel, as a whole, that bill clinton, for all of his crimes, and he committed crimes and we prove that he committed crimes, that he should actually be removed in his last year and a half an office. we have elections in the country, and those elections

mean something. midterms coming up. why in the world of the democrats -- some of the democrats -- seriously discuss the impeachment? i think it's folly. that is a politics. that is very bad for the country. it is ultra-divisive. >> laura: if he could do it all over again, would you still except for a job as an impending counsel? knowing what you know now? and i was a ridiculous question. >> i think about that question and the answer is, yes, i would. but i would not have made the second time around the blunders i made, especially dealing with the press, as i described in the book. my decision to sit down with a real snake in the grass named steven brill and to be interviewed by him, and for him then to completely distort what i had to say, and other journalists said that was a distortion because he was distorting what i had to say, and that brought on an investigation. so when i think about how i

conducted it, we tried to conducted, and i think we did, with integrity. i would make a lot fewer mistakes. >> laura: rosenstein work for your team of prosecutors we back when. andy, i want to get your thoughts on the new text messages released today by congressman mark meadows. they show more communications between the former fbi agents peter strzok and lisa page. and to some come with pointed to a coordinated media leak campaign intended to harm president trump. the correspondent ends with stzrok congratulating page on an article being planted on carter page. are there any other was to read this? >> there are a couple of ways to read it, laura, although i must say, when you have a situation like we have year, when you have had a lot of evidence of high ranking fbi officials leaking, you have to take that into account. i have been in investigations where people -- i don't know that they used this phrase as

clumsy as the press leak strategy -- but there are some times that you have to have a strategy because you are being killed by leaks and you are trying to tamp down on them. then there is another way of looking at it, which has never been my preferred way as a prosecutor, but there are prosecutors who endorse this, and that is this idea of tickling the wires. this idea that you take information that you have from your investigation, we get to the press so that it gets out, and then as you monitor your wires, see if the people who are mentioned in the story say and do things that are indicative of consciousness of guilt order concealing evidence and the like. again, i don't think that is a proper way to go about investigation, but it is done. >> laura: stzrok's attorney, eaten woman, says the term media leak strategy instruction --dash stopping links to the me. mark meadows responds by saying, the american people aren't buying his misdirection.

in fact, mr. stzrok did lead an effort to control leaks. it's worth mentioning that such an effort was clearly a failure. it should raise questions whether there was a serious effort at all. finally, andy, on the issue of impeachment, you are very skeptical about the idea that the democrats would either have enough people to vote for impeachment, members, or that they would be able to get any republicans on board, enough to get at that critical level. >> i think if they were wise, judge starr is it sage words, i think they would play brass knuckles, brass tacks politics, they will need more than a margin of a few congressmen or representatives in order to have enough in the way of numbers to get even a simple majority that you need to file articles of impeachment in the house. i just think they'll need a more comfortable margin if they want to go about that about that.

>> laura: judge, finally, does it's been 90 to wrap this up, judge starr? he hasn't gotten anything he wants it, hasn't gotten drunk gotten drunk for a sit down. as a time to get the show on the road? >> given what we know, there is no evidence of collusion. i think the american people have wanted to know that for a long time. the two indictments that haven't returned did not point to collusion at all, so yes, especially with respect to russian collusion. now there is another perspective and that, we don't know what other assignments he has been given by the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. stay tuned. i will say a closing word on impeachment. as i described in the book, 31 democrats in the house of representatives that voted in favor of impeachment and yet even without modest but still, 31 is not nothing, 31 democrats importing, we see what eventually happened. there was another way, and i think that way needs to be discussed. it is the impeachment process something that should be reserved for the gravest kinds

of offenses, high treason and the like? is at the way we should -- >> laura: high crimes. >> truly high crimes and misdemeanors. let's get rid of parsing language and say this is a disruption of an election. so what should we do? there is not a serious conversation with respect to a resolution of censure. we need to have a debate. >> laura: fantastic, thank you, general, gentlemen. i had come a "the ingraham angle" follow-up. up ahead, matt light of the patriots sheds light on the issues regarding the anthem andg about it. that coming up. four... we need to fail down here so we don't fail up there. three... we've got this under control. two... you're a bunch of boys. you don't have anything under control! one... first man. rated pg-13.

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♪ speed went out one important "the ingraham angle" follow-up. last night we discussed how the nfl is mumbling the current anthem protests. promising millions and millions of dollars to left-wing social justice groups who are . we are now joined by former new england patriot matt light. the offensive tackle was on the executive committee of the players association. he joins us with exclusive insight into what is happening among the nfl, the players association, and it's recently formed players coalition that is gotten such a huge chunk of cash. so mad, question, first of all, great to see you. what you make of the nfl offering almost $90 million to what some are saying just a buy outdoor buy off of this anthem protest? will it work? >> i think anytime you give a group that much money, you help a lot of good comes out of it. i think that's exactly what the

players expect to happen with this money that has been allocated toward these issues that have become such a hot topic. i don't have a problem with the players, you know, banding together and trying to come up with a message and affect change. but i do have a problem with the overall spirit and the tone of what has been going on in the national football league and, quite honestly, for a lot of former players, it's a very difficult topic to bring up. >> laura: i would imagine if you are a player, who is not wid about the anthem kneeling and just things that distract from the game and is wrong place, wrong time for the kneeling, as good as the intentions are for some of these players, i bet they are intimidated of speaking out. i bet a lot of the players are afraid to speak out. >> that is the real story, laur laura. there is a problem when you have two different viewpoints but they are not opposing. i mean, we have one group, like

myself, and like you, and a lot of viewers, and like most americans, and by the way, the overwhelming majority of the players in the national football league who feel like kneeling is disrespectful. not for a million reasons. on the other side, you have people who want to make a difference and help those. those are 22 opposing views. those are two people that are trying to express what they think about this current situation that should really have never happened. and it wouldn't have happened if we had better leadership. >> laura: ben watson was on the show last night and i thought he was just -- he's a terrific guy. five kids. he's really positive. he said, i will call the white house and i'm happy to work with the white house and criminal justice reform. to become a you can get a lot accomplished working together instead of pointing fingers, and i probably have been guilty of that myself from time to time. but there are a lot of good players who want to help their

communities. they can do that and they are doing that already before cabernet come after kaepernick. i think it has all gotten muddled up. one of your former teammates and said something interesting, i want to play the bite. this is devon mccourty on 9/11 and the protests. let's watch. >> i think a day like today, we are talking about 9/11 everywhere, i think it is that the the quality of our people went through when they were trying to rescue lives, the same thing we are trying to fight for. >> devon mccourty, thank you for the expiring message. thank you for what you are doing. >> laura: what you think about that? >> devon mccourty is a great teammate, he's a great man, he's a guy that actually gets dirty. he gets down in the weeds, whatever the topic of conversation is, whatever he wants to do, he goes full tilt into it. i was quick to come out and say that i didn't appreciate when the patriots knelt last season.

i caught a lot of flak for that. and i still feel that way. i don't feel like that is a respectful way to do things. i don't feel as though, if you have a cause that you should be able to put your teammates in harm's way, so to speak -- >> laura: matt come are the people on the patriots now, plas now, who agree with your point of view, who are afraid to speak at themselves? yes or no? >> of course there are. as a tough thing to do, laura. you get attacked from every angle. again, we are not talking about two opposing viewpoints. >> laura: you are talking about a group of people who -- they are expressing their viewpoint, find, causing controversy, that's fine. they are a whole bunch of other players, because we've heard from them, who don't want any part of this, i just want to go out and play a great game and to do the anthem and go home to their family. >> the overwhelming majority of people, laura. listen, we need to start naming these things. it was social injustice, talk about who it is that needs to be

out of the police force. be very specific. and we need our leaders, we need roger caddell and demar smith to stand up and make a difference. >> laura: i want to know where all this money is going in the players coalition. tens of million dollars. are you convinced this will all go to the right places and not go to a lot of left-wing groups or ultimately not accounted for properly? >> it is up to us to do it. if we don't do it. we have to hold them accountable and have the players do the same thing. >> laura: matt, thank you so much. by the way, andy florence racing toward the east coast. there is new information on how it may be had for the millions of americans and our past. fox news rick leventhal has a lab report from the ground in north carolina next. yes, jim has had to compromise on a lot of things. but not when it comes to cutting the cord.

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♪ >> laura: carolina residents bracing for what president trump warrants could be the biggest natural disaster to hit mainland united states in decades. fox news reported rick leventhal right in its path joint is now from north carolina with a live update. rick? >> laura, there is more than 5 million people now under hurricane watches and warnings including most of the folks along the north and the south carolina border's, and that includes wrightsville beach, under a mandatory investment evacuation order.

pretty quiet tonight. it seems like a lot of folks have heeded the warnings of gotten out. the folks that that are still e have to get out before tomorrow morning. that is with the bridge will close. one of the local side, you are not planning to stay through the storm, and he said, not a good idea. in the local tell you to get out, it is a good idea to get out. part of the reason is a storm surges are expected to be after 13 feet which would take it above the garage is into the first floors of most of the structures on this strip of land. the other big concern of course, the wind, which is expected to be at least a category 3, somewhere between 111-129-mile-per-hour winds. the structures here, the new ones, rated about 130, there are builders watching this closely and homeowners of course as well, very nervous tonight. the other big issue, laura, the rain, which could be 2-3 feet above the feet, and a slow-moving storm could dump a lot of water, create a lot of flooding, and a lot of problems for the next few days, perhaps even weeks. >> laura: rick, what is the

sense about the move of the storm up the coast? will install out over the outer banks in wrightsville and go inward? will it come out up the coast? >> it all depends on what the storm does. we've seen these things turn and confuse and confound the forecast but right now, this thing, the models all seem to show it coming straight across the atlantic right into the carolina coast. then it starts making its way north. >> laura: rick, thank you so much. be safe for us. when we come, history, the best teacher, as we prepare for one of the deadliest natural disasters. past hurricane survivors are speaking out with their stories. priyanka is a survivor of deadly 2012 hurricane sandy. she chose not to evacuate. she joins us now, very briefly, to tell us about what led to the decision. this is crazy how big the storm is. what can you tell our viewers about how important it is to heed these warnings? >> thank you so much for having

become a laura. it's very important to evacuate. my grandparents and i did not evacuate. we did not have bottled water. water rose up to our floor and our home. we didn't know what to expect. this is my mother cleaning the basement. it was a very scary time for my grandparents and me. >> laura: beyond god, a lot of people get brave, like they want to see what it's like, they want to see how powerful the windows, my house can take it. but when you're talking about wind and wind this powerful and water this high, this is going to be a deadly storm. it would be great if somehow that didn't happen. but it will be a deadly storm. how critical is it for people to get out as fast as possible with their papers or pets and that's about it? >> i would say, get out as soon as possible, get your pets, cars, leave. three cars were submerged under water.

trees were falling on houses, my friend is a true business, able to do emergency work. i would get out now before it gets bad because people were in bad trouble. >> laura: bianca, a word of caution, a word to the wise, we appreciate your sharing that story. so many difficult natural disasters over the years. on this anniversary of 9/11, we remember the past natural disasters and we got to employ those lessons of how we deal with this next threat to the mainland. up next, a moving last bite. keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424.

>> shannon: today >> laura: today new york, and janesville penta veolia, the pentagon, the families of those who lost their lives gathered together. olivia sang the national anthem in the new york. ♪ o say, does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave

>> laura: a beautiful and haunting rendition of "the star-spangled banner." god bless all those first responders and the victims of 9/11, their memories will live on together. may their families be consoled. this loss, we'll never forget. shannon bream is up next. >> shannon: those who are still suffering. thank you very much. we begin our show with the fox news alert. just one day left to evacuate more than a million people, local and state officials on the president himself now are urging them to get out of hurricane florence is way before it is too late. also, newly unearthed text messages between peter strzok and lisa page discussing a "media leaks strategy." his attorney says it was aimed at stopping lakes to the press. congressman mark meadows is not buying it. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has it in minutes. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. we begin with a fox news weather alert. hurricane