we will see you tomorrow morning and cover it all for you right here on the fox news channel. keep it here for continuing coverage around the clock. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. continuing coverage here on fox news channel as millions of people are on alert. hurricane florence exploding in size, and even though it has been downgraded to a category 2, you got to see how big of a beach this is. it is bearing down on the carolinas as a much bigger, wider storm. the effects already are being felt far and wide with noon wearing wailings of catastrophic flooding, heavy rain from all the ocean waters, and life-threatening storm surges as it hits the coastline. in the next few hours, as we are watching. you are watching "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner. here today melissa francis, town hall editor and fox news contributor katie pavlich, syndicated radio talk show host and fox news contributor

leslie marshall. joining us today, steve hilton in the center seat. host of the next revolution, and the author of positive populism. great to have you. >> steve: great to be here. one dumb xp when let's get started. she is huge, and she is coming. millions of people on the east coast bracing for hurricane florence as it bears down on the carolinas. it has lost some wind speed. the national hurricane center says there is nothing minor about florence. it warns that the storm remains deadly because of its growing size and a flow speed. fema chief brock along warning people not to let their guard down. >> just because the wind speed came down, the intensity of the storm came down to a category 2, please do not let your guard down. this is a very dangerous storm. storm surges why you have been placed under, many of you have been placed under evacuation. we are asking citizens to please heed a warning. your time is warning running o.

the ocean will start rising along the coach, in the back bay and inland areas, in the sound areas within a matter of hours. your time to get out of those areas is coming to a close. >> harris: griff jenkins is on the ground for us in atlantic beach, north carolina, where the winds are starting to about. the bans on that storm are very wide. >> that's right, harris. they have already started to come in a little bit. i want you to have a look, for our viewers to have a look at the pure, here. this is the oceana pier, and you could see the waves pummeling the end of that. that is really concerning folks here, because this sort of storm surge that we are expecting -- that predicted nine to 13 feet -- this is the front end of it. the authorities are very, very concerned, as you see. the bridge's stability is being threatened. they were to see this kind of activity this early before it comes in. since i have been here in the last hour, we have had the

mayor, therese cooper, and the chief of police, jeff harvey, of atlantic beach, both come down here and look at this pier with me. look at the surge. here's what they say they are most concerned about. take a quick listen. >> we are worried about what happens after the storm habits. we are focused on safety now, making sure our team is where they need to be to respond to any human safety issues. >> right now, i think we are pretty good. we are in contact with the eeoc over in morehead city that is connected to fema and all the other assets that we will have. we'll have to wait and see what the aftermath is. >> harris, if you look at, you can see the water standing here and the wind just whipping it out. these were put in place, but we are right on the front line of this do in line. this dune line has been worked on for many decades as they try and preserve atlantic beach and they are worried about the size and scope of the storm surge. it's expected to hit at 11:41:00 p.m.

high tide will hit here, they are saying that storm surge, 9 to 13 feet, will be not only above my head but above my cam's head and above the top of the pier house here. that is a real concern on atlantic beach. traffic has been stopped from coming on, but anyone can get off at any time. however, we are looking at winds just to give a little context. two years ago, it was hurricane matthew that came on here is a category one. this is a category 2, and they worried about more water. extreme flooding, extreme rainfall, and the fact that this took part here for a while, harris. >> harris: are most of the people gone? are people evacuated? >> most of the folks have left, but this is an interesting situation because the flooding that occurred two years ago, the expectation extreme flooding, 25 or 30 miles inland, in really low-lying areas where the rivers converge, a lot of residents decided when it downgraded to a 2 to write it out and deal with it because they are worried about getting back here. the storm surge that's going to

put into these houses on atlantic beach is going to be that of harvey, that of katrina. if you remember, you've got to get into those, get it down quickly. as the storm surge starts coming up, they've got to take care of their property. a lot of people are writing it out here, much more than perhaps planned 24 hours ago. but it is mostly a ghost town, and a lot of the low-lying 1-story structures are definitely -- those people have evacuated because of the amount of water that's going to come in here in the next 24 hours. >> harris: what you say is exactly what we have been telling people, and that is -- people will see that downgrade from a 4 to a 3 to a 2, but what doesn't change is the fact that this is so slow-moving now into the coaster, and it is scooping up water along the way. that doesn't change. >> that's exactly right. this is undoubtably going to be a life-threatening catastrophic weather event, and the danger is

extreme. it is already deteriorating here come as you can see behind me. but you talking about a combination of storm surge, extreme flooding, extended rainfall, power lines going down, and the wind. you are talking about a very serious situation. you should not be out in this. at this point, if you are in northeastern north carolina coming need to be hunkering down. we are hearing reports of power outages already. of course, the unpredictability. if you are not gone, if you haven't evacuated by now, he pretty much need to get comfortable and be ready, be as best prepared as you can be. >> harris: we pray that he won't need for emergencies that they need to call for help, because the authorities have already said you need to be able to have some sustainability for quite some time if this thing moves through. stay safe. thank you very much. with spring and the chief meteorologist for more on exactly where the storm is tracking right now. rick, what can you tell us question works because i think it's interesting what harris and griff were just talking about about the category too.

we've figure out a messaging thing that changes over time. a category two, when those wins come down, that doesn't mean that all the energy in the storm, all of the moisture in the storm, all of the storm surge that has been built into the storm, goes away. the second that those wins come down. all of that is exactly the same. we won't see that centerpoint that has wins that may be 140. we will see it may be at 105 to 120 gust or something like that. everything else remains exactly the same with this storm. i think sometimes we do a bit of a disservice when we focus on those categories to our viewers. i want to make that point. this is with the storm looks like. you see what griff was just experiencing here, that is going to go on for 36 hours. it will get much worse over the next 12, and kind of remain at that bad phase of it for probably a good 24 hours. tornado concerns, as well. that is always the case with a landfilling system. not quite like the oklahoma category five tornado things, but maybe a 1.

f1 or an f2 tornado could pop up. we have to look at that tornado watch in effect. this is the track of the storm. curves, slows down from a saturday at 8:00 a.m. that's three or two and half days from now. then it was about 150 miles, here. the hurricane force winds extend out 80 miles on either side of that, so it's 160 miles of hurricane force winds. the tropical storm force winds extend almost 400 miles. 400 miles all the way across. it is a big area here that is going to be dealing with those wins. they are, sunday, and eventually by monday, that high to the north begins and the storm begins to move on out, bringing some rain to parts of the ohio valley and the beach in new england. not like we will see in the south. the winds are already extremely -- they are getting there, getting high. some of the storm surge coming on shore, one of the problems we will have is the trajectory, those hurricane-force winds. because it slows down, it pulls

all of that storm surge. probably, that storm surge will stay there for about five high tide cycles. that is why we are going to see so much of that flooding. one of the reasons. the other reason, it's all the rain, eventually, that will fall inland that wants to drain out why the storm surge is pushing it and the water has no way to go. up to 40 inches, we will see some may be 40 or 40 plus by the time we're done with this. and, by the way, melissa, we are talking to some of these interior sections, maybe a foot of rain in the higher elevations here. we've got the mountains about 400 feet elevation. that water, when it falls with gravity, very, very quickly, also it's very saturated from one of the wettest summers they have ever had. melissa question marks pt wow. keep an eye on it for us. thank you so much. the administration's readiness for florence as trump defends his response to last year's hurricane and greater rico and takes issue with the recently revised death toll there. that number, based on estimates

from a study by researchers at george washington university in d.c. the president tweeting 3,000 people did not die in the hurricanes that hit puerto rico when i left the island after the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 16 to 18 deaths. as time went by, it did not go up by as much. then a long time later they started to report really large numbers like 3,000. this was done by the democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when i was successfully raising billions of dollars to help rebuild puerto rico. if a person dies for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. that's politics. i love puerto rico." speaking of bad politics, those tweets triggering a furious response from democrats. they are saying the president's tweets are beyond comprehension and deeply offensive to the thousands of american families who lost loved ones.

only donald trump would try to make the deaths of nearly 3,000 americans into a story about himself and his political fortunes. all this as the president says his administration is ready for whatever florence throws their way. >> my administration is in close coordination with state and local authorities. tremendous people working on the hurricane. first responders, law enforcement, and fema. they are already. we are getting trim at his accolades from politicians and the people. we are ready, but this will be one of the biggest ones to ever hit our country. residents in the path of these devastating storms should comply with all evacuation orders and other emergency instructions. protection of life is the absolute highest priority, and that is what we are doing. >> melissa: let me give you some other numbers that are really important right now.

five states have declared a state of emergency. 1.7 million people in the carolinas and virginia are told to evacuate. 10 million people in the path of florence, and instead they are fighting back and forth about what happened in puerto rico. it is incredibly distasteful. i don't know why the president weighed in on this one. >> steve: the word that came to my mind was complete the unseemly. what is this about? i think it's one of those moments when you really respect the elected officials below the federal level, because they are the ones who often deal with the things that affect people's lives. governors, mayors, and so on. they are doing the really hard work on the ground. of course, the federal government will be there to help. i'm sure president trump is completely white, quite rightly putting resources there. this political argument is really, as i say, unseemly. what are we doing? >> melissa: it cheapens us as a country. spew when we could do more for people around the world and at

home than anybody else on the planet! we do. we are so heart filled when it comes to the rescues and all of this. to have that be the conversation right now -- >> steve: etiquette says something about what's going on. it's a phrase that ever set of views, the politicization of everything these days. let's be honest. this began during what happened during puerto rico. i felt the same emotion about what was being done in terms of attacking president trump. you saw the mayor for example, she is practically a cohost on msnbc during that time. going on and on and on. before, it was even clear exactly what had happened. the politicization has been going on for a long time. >> melissa: katie, i understand the president's frustration in the sense that he has worked very hard to help puerto rico. when you look at the crumbling infrastructure that they had before, and also the fact that they are an island so you can't just drive. that, really, the effort to help

them has been herculean. but to take up on the issue of how many people are dead is so disgusting. >> katie: the first thing i want to say is that the politics of hurricanes didn't start with donald trump. it started with george w. bush and hurricane katrina, when there was a huge back and forth between with a local government didn't do, what the federal government didn't do. the famous photo of president bush flying over and looking down on air force one, people said he was out of touch. that's when it really started to be something that people use as a political argument. to argue over these numbers, i think that is for another time. there can be valid questions about how these things are determined, who is more responsible, the federal or local government in terms of response and preparedness. the problem with right now is that's a huge distraction from the preparedness for this current hurricane. and, it doesn't allow local and federal officials to learn from the mistakes of what happened. there are always things that can be improved. nothing over goes 100% according

to plan. that doesn't mean people didn't do as much as possible and get the resources on the ground ahead of time. i also think comparing apples to oranges. harvey, there was a death toll of 82, i believe. puerto rico, we are looking at a number of 3,000. what is the reason for that? there are obviously different conditions on the ground for that. you can learn from each one, depending on what we have two face going forward. there will be another horror he in puerto rico. the government has an opportunity to take some responsibility and build their economy so they can sustain something like this in the future. >> melissa: why can't we put our politics to the side right now in the face of the storm? >> leslie: we should, but the president didn't end hasn't. you can never, left or right, no matter what office you are in, try and turn disaster into political victory. i understand his numbers were down. i understand that we are months away from the midterm elections. one of the things people are looking at which they don't want to see, i think i'm in the president, are the self-accolades. one of the things i did like

when we saw the press conference as he use the word "they" more than "i." "they are ready. the first responders are prepared. they are ready." another thing on the local level i think they are looking for, to your point about puerto rico being an island, absolutely. right now we are seeing the north and south carolina and georgia infrastructure, if you will, with the federal government and that response program. they are much more prepared than puerto rico. but people are going to be -- look, where's the description question mike water, forks nibble. it wasn't distribute it properly in puerto rico. food, water, health care. they are going to look to that. i don't think of that comes to their mind, most americans, when they go to vote. there should be a reason why anybody should politicize this. however, funding, that is essential. to take money from immigration and homeland security to be sure that isis is going to pull back. see mike >> steve: that was an example. that was politicizing it. it turned out not to be true.

>> leslie: this is not what people will vote for when they go to the polls in november. this is why i think whether you are the president or a local office, in any of those states, you don't politicize this. this is about people, and preparedness. getting the supplies they need to them in a timely manner. >> harris: i think one of the couple getting factors when you talk about death and loss and all of that is that when it becs about the numbers and on people. having been to puerto rico many times with my family, seeing that beautiful place torn apart by a hurricane as we brace for another one, we know it really is about the people. it isn't just the people who may have lost, and my heart and support is with them, but the people who will be tasked with rebuilding. quite frankly, an infrastructure that didn't support them before the storm. i understand there are forensics the need to be done. you know, you knew the former

prime minister in the u.k. you know it takes some time and some stick-intuitive mystified at what happens frantically. we know it's north of 18. at this point, i do understand politically why anybody would weigh into that. whether it's the president or anybody else. let's lead with our hearts. because you got another beast coming this way. we've got to be able to focus on that. >> katie: on your point, eating is too many. >> harris: one is too many. we will be able to talk about politics forever. but to support the families in all of this, i think this is the time to do that. speak to the carolinas already starting to feel the impact of hurricane florence as the massive storm turns closer to t. forecasters are warning of epic flooding and devastating storm surge. an update ahead on conditions there, with the clock ticking

for residents to reach safety. plus, google is under fire again. have you seen this story? after the leak of a video showing top executive slamming president trump 's election victory. and the voters who helped him win. were they just trying to be off steam, or is this evidence of political bias in silicon valle silicon valley? >> harris: no! [laughter] ♪ no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. [cheers] 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. new ensure max protein. in two great flavors.

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so they're ready for anything. >> melissa: wind and rain from hurricane florence have arrived, beginning to bash the nation's east coast line in the midsection of the east coast. the carolinas, of course, now prepared and braced for what comes next. officials are warning local people to take this threat seriously and seek a safer ground. yes, some people stayed. some people came back. we are covering that part of the story. will continue to monitor florence, and bring you updates as we get them here on out "outnumbered" ." >> katie: google is under fire after a video yesterday showing executives at google and its parent company criticizing president trump and voters as well, as the president and his platform.

the recording the first posted by breitbart comes from a weekly meeting held in november of 2016. conservatives now seizing on the ville the mike video as proof of the poetical bias. some culling of the leadership to testify before lawmakers on capitol hill. president trump's 2020 2020 can manager bless the company in a tweet saying "google needs to testify why this isn't a threat through the public. watch the video. google believes they can shape your search results and videos to make you have the their values. medicare for all, congressional hearings." molly is live in washington is more. molly? >> this video link to breitbart and then released features google's founders and top executives expressing dismay. lamenting the outcome of the 2016 presidential election with employees shortly after donald trump's win. here's just a taste of what was said. >> most people here are pretty upset, and pretty sad because of

the election. >> that was the first moment i really felt like we are going to lose. it was this massive kick in the gut that we are going to lose. it was really painful. >> we'll be very strong and vocal. not just from a press standpoint or a peer standpoint, but actually working hard behind the scenes to stand up for what's right. >> is there anything positive you see from the selection? [laughter] >> that's a really one right no now. >> of the vp of operations also spoke on the topic of diversity and inclusion, noting this. >> we value and welcome perspectives from all sides of the political spectrum. so, i have heard from some conservative google-ers lately. they haven't felt entirely comfortable revealing who they are. when these conversations come up at work. i believe we need to do better.

>> in response to the video and fall out, google released a statement arguing that the employees and executives were expressing their personal views. "nothing was said at the meeting or any of the meeting to suggest that any poetical bias ever influences the way we build or operate our product. to the contrary, our products are built for everyone, and we designed them with extraordinary care to be a trustworthy source of information for everyone without regard to the political viewpoint." a quick reminder, even as the campaign manager calls for congressional hearings, earlier this month at the google execs skipped a senate intelligence hearing regarding efforts to prevent election meddling and disinformation. katie? >> katie: thank you very much. melissa, you are fired at. >> melissa: i am. by on the idea of them being a certain age search engine, you have your boss up on the stage. whether it's their political view, personalty, or not, your boss is on the stage saying things -- this is the vp for global affairs.

saying that people who support president trump are motivated by fear, xenophobia, and hatred. so your boss is saying that if you voted for president trump you are xenophobic and filled with hatred. how chilling is that to the audience? i will tell you how chilling. chilling enough that one of them released the video to breitbart. that is how chilling it is. that is the part of the story that is really interesting. because i heard from a ton of people who felt like after the election there were people in the office, all over the office, crying. they were happy because they have voted for president trump, and they felt like they had to pretend to be sad and couldn't say a word. how is that right? how is that fair? >> katie: i remember being on your show a few years ago, and the questions about google and whether basins integration the. there was some a suspicion that there was. you know the people on the stage. do their political leanings impact the way that they do their work? >> steve: they think not. they clearly believe not.

[laughter] first of all, just make clear to the audience, one of those conservative google letters that we heard about previously, thaty wife. she's to work at google many years ago. not anymore. i do know these people. >> katie: is she in the closet or out of the closet? >> steve: probably not. she was one of the correspondence that was released in relationship to that lawsuit, where she's making the exact point you heard they're the people feel uncomfortable. the reality is that i live in silicon valley. i have followed us around my dinner table for years. i know with that sentiment is light, and argued back against it. i think for me the serious point for all of this, the structural point, underlying, is that we wouldn't mind so much for care so much or worry so much about bias or accusations of bias if google wasn't so powerful. it if it weren't the only game n town. if there are multiple ways people can access and find information, frankly, it would matter. there are a hundred different search engines, then what is

more right-leaning come one is my left. we don't have that kind of competition. i think the real answer to this, fine, have some hearings. but the real answer is to have more competition in all of these technology markets. >> harris: so you have seen of a company's come up. you're saying make it commensurate with google, and that's interesting. because their platforms are such that you haven't seen that kind of commencement competition. i would say this -- what kind of executive board do on that day us that can't figure out the power video sharing? that scares me, too. they are running that powerful digital company. what is there video sharing like? what are your thoughts on this? >> leslie: i think they are personal views, and i think everybody's political and personal views way into all their business decisions no matter what business you're in. the bottom line, money. they are a business. they want to make money. i don't think they would be so stupid as just to cater to the left. i'm not buying the conservative

leaning. the algorithms. >> steve: we really need one thing that's very practical, to have an algorithm transparency board that would require us to know how it all works. speed when they felt safe enough to say things on that dais. didn't think anybody would share it. >> katie: it's interesting they didn't show up when asked for testimony. we will move on for now. authorities now warning, time for evacuation is running out as hurricanes lawrence bears down on the carolinas. an update on how the area is bracing for impact, next. ♪ >> your time is running out. the ocean is going to start rising. along the coast, and in the back band inland areas. the sound areas within a matter of hours. your time to get out of those areas is coming to a close. ♪ real cheese people know good things come in threes.

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rainfall. a storm surge expected to rise more than 12 feet toward the center of the storm. north carolina's governor 's warning people not to be complacent. some of them are going back. we have reports of that. just because florence has been downgraded to category 2, this remains a powerful storm. all the water it picked up remains. it doesn't change. at randy webster is the emergency management director for a county in south carolina, which borders north carolina. he joins us by phone. randy, can you hear me? the really disturbing part of this, we have seen this, we saw in houston. the rain that comes, now, with the storms, that stall and set off the coast, is punishing. people may understand underest. >> very much so. we are expecting to see record-breaking water rights here in don't like as well.

we are near myrtle beach. the interior of the coastline is where we seem to have our issues with the flooding. the most. for us, this is the third time in four or five years where we have had to do with the same issue. we were flooded, had record flooding. then hurricane matthew be that record. looks like we might be facing another record flood with florence. >> harris: fresh in our minds. the flooding that happened in houston. it was difficult to watch people trying to escape the water. some of them perished. can you talk about the population where you are? i had a fema expert tell me yesterday that the housing stock is a trillion dollars along the coastline there on the carolinas. that is a lot to have in jeopardy, here. >> it is. and, yes, we have a lot of residents with property that's

facing significant flooding. for the most part, though, folks have taken heed of the warning to evacuate. we've had very good compliance with the evacuation zone. of course, are most interior zone is where most of the flooding will take place. we feel good that the residents have taken heed of the warning, they are getting out. of course, as recent as matthew, it's still on their minds. they know they may be looking at after this is all said and done. >> harris: while you are talking, we are showing your coastline. many of them, actually. several of them because of some of the cameras on this. but there is a local reporter out in wrightsville beach, north carolina right now. he is just getting pounded. we talk about how this thing is coming in, and some reports of people may be not taking category 2 seriously enough. would you say to those who are about to try and return to their houses and try to be there to circumvent may be sandbag close to mark i understand people are trying to do. they're trying to protect some of these beautiful vintage homes, and the livelihoods are

usually wrapped up in the houses. >> it is. we know that, and we have been messaging really hard. just before because the categos gone down, the threat has not. we are pushing storm surge issues, in our messaging. preparing folks for the catastrophic flooding that is forthcoming. in our situation, we will have devastating flash flooding initially. because of where we are, it's very flat in the interior part of the county. our floodwaters will not rise until about two to three days later. there is a sense of calm and may be it's not going to be too bad. then, all, all of a sudden, with the dream out else. rushing that water to the coast. >> harris: randy webster, the emergency management director of a county in south carillon appeared on the line there with north carolina. we wish you the best, we can see myrtle beach and some of the video we showed you. it's coming in, the beast that is florence, with a whole lot of

water. randy, thank you very much. of course, we will continue to follow hurricane florence as it moves toward the east coast. the authorities are calling it externally dangerous. we just heard from randy webster, they are. don't take it lightly. we know the numbers are changing in terms of what we call this beast, but the water remains. plus, newly obtained text messages between former top fbi officials peter strzok and lisa page appearing to reveal other members within the intelligence committee "leaking like mad. it's broke." fox news got our hands on the text messages during this hour, and we are deep into looking at them. the run-up to the russian investigation now, what those text messages show. how the president is weighing in today. the new questions it raises about suggestive the justice d. all of that, next. ♪ oms,

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>> melissa: her confluence calling for the carolinas, threatening to deliver a blow. experts are running that it can better the coast with destructive wind and rain. we will continue monitoring the hurricane and bring you the latest just as soon as it happens. >> katie: newly revealed text messages between peter strzok and lisa page indicate others were "leaking like mad" in the run-up to the trump-rush occlusion probe. this between the agent and attorney, which fox news recently obtained exclusively. the lengthy exchange dated 2016 reveals political purpose. on that way, officials will convince that vladimir putin personally approved and was involved in russian meddling during the 2016 election. president trump weighing in this

morning, tweeting "more text messages between former fbi employees peter strzok and lisa page are a disaster and an embarrassment for the fbi and doj. they should have never happened, but we are learning more and more by the hour. others were leaking like mad in order to get the president!" see, the president has been pretty vocal about this. should he declassify the documents? >> steve: differently. yes, of course. more than that. the point is, almost every day there seems to be yet another drip -- another text here come a text there. mounting evidence that adds to the suspicion that people inside the obama administration before the election and afterwards were plotting either to stop president trump, donald trump becoming president, once he was president, to undermine him. maybe that's not true. what is really offensive to a lot of people is that, on the one side, you've got all the weight and authority of the mueller investigation preyed on the inside, you got some random committee inquiries, the

inspector general thing. unless you have an equivalent investigation to the mueller investigation, into all of this, then half of the country will never feel that justice has been done. >> katie: based on what we know, it seems like strzok and page were creating a media narrative to try and push the special counsel investigation from getting started in the first place. peter strzok gladly joined it, by the way. >> melissa: i would say that horwitz is still looking into the scum as we know. as this all turns. by the latest tally, you have 18 people within the fbi that were leaking to "the washington post" alone. that is amazing. it makes you think they weren't trying to stop the leak. the leak was part of the way that they do. i want to know why that's okay. i would also say to everybody who says that the ig report report believes it didn't impact everything, that's not true. what he said was is that he can't say that bias didn't impact strzok's decision to turn from the emails to the larger investigation. that's like saying "i can't say that you aren't stupid." would you be offended like that?

let's assume double negative us use. >> leslie: i want an investigation. i want everything classified to be released. the reason is, i don't read and believe it is as nefarious as some people wanted to be. when you look at the first text, he also talks about the strategy that is being coordinated with the department of justice. i quote "our attorney general at that same time, he said he "wanted to put people in jail for leaks." i do think it's about combating leaks, and therefore an investigation -- >> katie: do you think most democrats feel the way you do about getting that information out? >> leslie: i think many do. i don't think they are scared, because i certainly don't believe that this happened to the former administration, to try and derail somebody from being elected and change the world -- >> steve: it has all got to be investigated properly. >> leslie: i agree with that. >> katie: high winds and big waves already slamming the

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is a special factor going on there, which is pretty tough in a divisive primary. so martha mcsally needs more time to get going, whereas the democrats have been longer to get established. i think the real point though is that, at the moment, a lot of the other polls that are coming out are looking very bad for the g.o.p. but it is still early, actually. the big point i tried to make every time i can, in case someone is listening who can do something about it, is that it's not enough for the republicans to sit back and go on and on about how great the economy is. yes, it is great for a lot of people. but people don't vote out of gratitude. they vote about the future. the important point to for the republicans to make is that all of this progress is at risk if you let the democrats back in. nancy pelosi and the democrats, they can increase taxes, increase regulation. your tax bill will go up by $2,000. you've got to be really specific about the consequences of letting the democrats back in control. >> harris: so, katie, you hear some of that messaging. you and i talk about messaging

all the time, particularly with republicans. they sometimes don't hit the nail hard enough, is what we would say. [laughs] >> katie: that's why the president has actually been pretty specific about these things and israelis, when he's going to these districts and going to these states to campaign for governor's and people he wants to be in congress, to solidify his addenda so they can move forward. i want to focus on the impeachment part quickly, though. the former secretary of state john kerry was on dana perino's show yesterday, and i think the language is important to pay attention to. he said it's a mistake to be talking about impeachment. he doesn't say it's a mistake to go for impeachment after democrats win. there's a huge difference there. politically, right now, those polls show that it's bad to talk about impeachment because voters don't want it. that doesn't mean that they don't think it is a good idea once again to power. >> harris: leslie, you and i were talking about that. the messaging as steve has pointed out is positive. but it's got to be -- you were the first person i have heard say that it's got to be more than the economy.

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