katie: great show. ed: we'll be back tomorrow. katie: coverage of hurricane florence, tropical storm florence continues rescue efforts underway we'll see you tomorrow. pete: good saturday. ed: have a good one. neil: well, she is persistent florence is still soaking and soaking and soaking the carolinas flooding from the relentless rainfall is the biggest concern right now. we're going to take you live on the ground across north carolina , south carolina the entire region here is the latest we could tell you we've got more than two feet of rain falling so far in some parts of the southeast much more is expected that's on the way the storm is expected to trench the area right through tuesday and also rainfall totals could eclipse 40 to 50 inches. authorities involved here think hundreds who decided to stay and stick it out more rescues are underway right now as we speak

we'll talk to the mayor of new bern north carolina on rescue efforts. so far florence claimed at least seven lives including a woman and her baby who were killed when a tree fell on their home. nearly a million people are without power at this hour we'll have an update from the region's major power company welcome everybody glad to have you i'm neil cavuto and we're keeping track of all of this as fast as we can. jonathan siri in a hard hit writesville beach, north carolina. jonathan? reporter: hi, neil we're still experiencing some winds, but the good news is that there's really no structural damage. no major structural damage to talk about. we're seeing relatively minor damage. take a look at the bottom floor of this condominium complex like many buildings on this island it's actually built on stilts to protect the living quarters from any type of storm surge and so this building remained intact, but down here is some minor damage these wood panels were

knocked over in the hurricane force winds that came through here yesterday. even now there are some pretty strong winds coming through, certainly not hurricane force, but they continue to keep, they continue to be too strong for power crews to come back on the island. the mayor says that the utility crews need to wait until the winds come down to about 35 miles an hour or less before they can come back over the bridge and begin restoring power which is out to the entire island. the good news is the mayor says that no power lines are down, no power poles fell down; however there are some cable and internet lines that are down and need to be repaired. the mayor says two or three homes suffered roof damage but by and large we're talking about relatively minor damages to homes such as gutters, shingles, relatively minor things like that and so it appears that when people are allowed to return to inspect their hopes and

businesses, that they will be pleasantly surprised that things were not nearly as bad as they could have been. neil? neil: well that is certainly good to hear jonathan thank you very very much. let's go to jeff flock in carolina beach north carolina with the latest from there. hey, jeff. reporter: neil i think you had exactly the right headline and that is persistence in terms of this storm. i think this is the longest duration storm in terms of both hurricane force as well as tropical storm force winds over the course of the past two days but i've covered and i've covered a lot of hurricanes. we continue as jonathan was reporting from his location there just north of us to continue to get tropical storm force winds here which keeps everybody pretty much in, keeps the power crews out from their job of reconnecting everything and as true in wrightsville beach, it's threw that we have no power and the water system has been compromis

ed as well, and it's going to be a while. we are looking at the radar and as even though that storm has moved on, you look at at that radar there's still serious conviction that it's coming off the atlantic and pounding us here. we've got a brief break in the rain but as you can tell it's still blowing pretty good and there's more rain to come so we're a ways away from it. this thing is moving two miles an hour and not moving out of here any time soon. neil? neil: jeff thank you very much be safe jeff flock let's go to our meteorologist rick richmuth what he makes of this. two miles an hour means that's a lot of rain. rick: the rain band and particularly this rain band we've got right here that is kind of almost exactly where the storm came onshore, what, 27 hours ago now take a lack at this. right there is topsail beach, all day long getting battered by this storm this line of storms, tons of lightning you can see

that's all lightning happening right now with the storm but this line is not budging at all, because of that underneath that, you can also take a look here and it's a lot of moisture pulling in and we think that we could be seeing maybe eight to 10 inches of rain pileup in the same spot throughout the day it was a spot nailed throughout the day yesterday. that's where the center of the storm is from that point to where it came onshore we're talking about 115 miles is all that its traveled and now it slowed even more only at two miles an hour in its forward progression so all of that moisture while you have the center there you still have air moving across this warm water and that lifts and causes more storms to form and it's very similar to what we saw with harvey very far away from the center. as far as future precipitation the worst is obviously north and south carolina eventually by sunday night into monday it pulls a little bit farther towards the north we'll be see ing two to three inches across parts of the ohio valley

maybe spots three to four inches across parts of new england before this is all done but this is a big concern this moisture that's going to fall especially across interior sections throughout the mountain terrain, all that water will pull towards the south and by the way if you're in south carolina a lot of the heavier rain we've seen in north carolina a lot of the rivers drain through south carolina and neil, the river flooding is going to be a major problem because all of the water that falls in a place that's not normally a river it through gravity goes off into the stream and into the rivers and they begin to crest later tomorrow and many rivers will rise to feet between now and tomorrow and it will stay at that level for much of the coming week. neil: rick where are we in the hurricane season process, when is it busy when is it not? rick: it's busy right now so the statistical peak is september 10 we're at september 15 and the atlantic right now is incredibly active. we have joyce and helene out

there that aren't going to impact anybody. there's izaac what was izaac is in the caribbean and we'll continue to watch that some models indicate it could get in towards the gulf later on this week. don't want to scare anybody just yet we have plenty of time to watch that but we are right now in the most active period of the atlantic hurricane season every year, it's right now it goes for about another three to four weeks of the peak of activity and then we begin to calm down. neil: a quick question when you addressed it at the top of your report but this idea of the flooding and fact that it is now so far inland and a lot of people we're told when they had to leave the coast go inland and they thought that 50 miles inland would be enough and now it turns out that in north carolina, raleigh and elsewhere, you're looking at a lot of rain anyway, so what do they do? rick: yeah, listen, once you go inland, it's a tough one, because we're going to be seeing probably some spots here through monday, maybe up to about a foot of rain, so that flooding does

go inland. still stays along the coast but it goes inland places like atlanta is a good option where yesterday we just had sunny skies and for the most part they are going to be good but you'd have to travel quite a ways, neil to get into a safe spot and probably too late for that to be honest at this point because so many of the roads are impassable from the trees down and flooding ongoing right now. neil: remarkable. all right thank you my friend rick richmuth whose just been doing the work through all of this helping a lot of folks staying on top of this, way ahead of this as well thank you, rick. we're going to get the read from some of the hardest hit areas in north carolina for example, including the mayor of new bern, north carolina. now remember this was a city that had a curfew put into effect and people were told to hunker down and get out, and the latest from what's happening there, after this.

neil: you know, new bern north carolina sort of has been a visual reminder of the severity

of hurricane florence now tropical storm florence but hundreds have already had to be rescued the city's mayor joins us right now on the phone, mayor thank you for taking the time. how do things look now? >> well, its finally quit rain ing and we're getting out starting to assess the situation we're asking residents to stay home. a lot of folks are starting to get out and ride around and at this time is very dangerous. we have a lot of power lines down, we have 22000 customers and about 6,000 of them are still without power, so there are energized lines down, there are unsafe conditions with the wind, so please cooperate with the city of new bern and give us the opportunity to give you back the safety and security that you need. neil: how many heeded earlier warnings to get out of up to, to clear out? >> we started where we met with the county, we asked them due to the severity of the model and

other models to declare a mandatory evacuation and we put that in place or the county did, which we really appreciate and from there immediately folks started evacuating. we asked them to go east of i95 to get out of harms way. this storm was bigger than hurricane hugo if anybody remembers that. many people heeded that advice. some folks that lived around new burn for 20 and 30 years and have not witnessed a hurricane of this magnitude did not leave. neil: so the flooding issue, that will still be an issue and you're told for how long at least another day? >> so the water has receded about four to five feet. it's down enough as to where our crews are starting to assess and certainly during the storm we could not put our linemen in harms way to go out and put the power back. we had all 22000 residents out of power.

we have 4,200 homes in new bern that are damaged and 300 businesses that have been damaged so it's a very extensive problem for new people residents neil: mayor we're told that the president wants to visit the area some time next week but does not want to be an impediment to relief efforts going on. at this stage if he were to come to your area how do you feel about that do you think he should put it off, what? >> well i just appreciate that the president is concerned with the citizens and immediately declared the declaration of an emergency and that along with the government that helped us to know that they had our backs, and this has just been the opportunity of the citizens and the county, the city, and all working together when we have a crisis like this and this is like hurricane hazel from the 50 s, if anybody remembers that. neil: that was what, in 1954?

yes. neil: yeah, go ahead. no, that's good. neil: that was pretty severe. you mentioned hugo in 89 and maybe lessons learned from that one but i was thinking of it, mayor, its been quite some time since your residents or even their relatives would remember anything of this severity, right and so some of them might have got epidemic complacent but it turns out from the numbers you were mentioning they were heeding your warnings. >> yeah, and look even though some people didn't leave, we've got to get folks rescued. we have to get them to safety. we have 1,200 residents in five shelters now so the name of the game right now has been to get those residents safe and now on the same side of that or the flip side is we have to establish security for our citizens and we have all these folks that have left the area and we have a curfew to make sure our police and fire can get out and we've had three fires in

new bern since this whole thing started and i don't want to scare folks but when you turn those lights back on if your house flooded you need to be very careful about if any of those lines have been wet, so we're trying to just as much as we mobilize the fight, we'll get ready for the same thing to establish and stabilize our city and put it right back like the capitol of new bern it is of north carolina it is. neil: spoken like a fighter mayor and you speak well in support for your people thank you very much for taking the time, sir. thank you, sir. neil: i do want to update you what's going on in south carolina because it is getting the bankrupt of the storm right now there we're told a little bit north of 16 5,000 customers are without power and they are expecting in the vicinity there in and around the coast of south carolina looking at a minimum of 15 inches of rain that could easily double if this thing stalls out it's breaking up as we speak but that does not mean that the rain just magically stops south carolina republican

congressman tom rice is with us what does it look like there? >> hello, neil. south carolina has dodged a little bit of a bullet here. we're going to get a whole lot of rain but in terms of a category 4 wind intensity and storm surge, our friends in north carolina i think bore the brunt of that. we got some but nowhere near what they felt. neil: did a lot of people heed warnings certainly from the governor and others urging, you know, get at least away from the coast. we're told that once it looked like this was heading more to north carolina that those along the coast in south carolina stayed put. is that true? >> no. this is a tourist mecca. hundreds of thousands of people are here on any given day on the grand strand of south carolina, the northern part of south carolina for vacation or for a weekend or for golfing or

whatever and our governor did a fantastic job of getting out well ahead of this and asking, you know, putting on a mandatory evacuation on tuesday, and the tourists left immediately which there are multiples of the resident population and then within a couple of days most of the residents left as well. they heeded the governor's warning. certainly there are some that are still here but the governor 's spoken pledge was no loss of life is priority one and i think that was exactly the right thing to do and it's amazing how well the state and local governments carried that out, getting upwards of a million people off the grand strand with not many wrinkles. it was a logistical nightmare and to be able to pull that off as easily as they did or apparently easily was fantastic. they practiced it, they prepare for it and they carry it out and

its been relatively wrinkle-free my hats off to the local sheriff s, to the law enforcement to the emergency responders to the local governments that have carried this off so well. we've been under this thing is like slow poison. thank god we didn't have that category 4 come straight up the gut like they were telling us we would 48 hours ago, but we've got this 50-mile an hour washing machine churning on us reit now and our big problem, the biggest thing my residents are going to face is the inland counties and this rain that has landed in north carolina and those rivers gets where they come. they come right through the border of south carolina through the bay which is all of my district and the agriculture people in the western part of the county, in the western counties, which flooded just two

years ago with hurricane matthew they're basing even higher rain totals now. i've lived here for 60 years i can never remember a storm coming across the atlantic and stopping right on top of us for three days. it's going to be an awful lot of water. we've got people have the sheriffs have done a great job of getting people out of the low lying areas. i think we've got about 5,000 people in shelters across my eight counties, and people who live through matthew respect these floodwaters now, are more taking heed, so we'll be doing a lot of evaluation in the next couple days. we're ready to help people with fema claims. we're ready to help people with any federal government agencies. fema has i think 4,000 people or close to it on the ground. they've been staging supplies in

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neil: all right so throughout the storm he seems to have been in the middle of the storm. leland vittert with the very latest on what's going on. reporter: neil the search and rescue effort is now beginning in places that are so hard hit. and actually tried to ride the storm out on these boats and now we're out with the coast guard and the coast guard is overwhelmed these guys out now

trying to find people who rode the storm out on these boats and captain, how bad right now is this in terms of trying to find people? we got a report of two people that tried to ride it out here and the coast guard had not received a report that they had been rescued so at this point we just want to come back but we were unable to find them, so we are hoping that they were rescued abdomen just did not notify anybody at this point. leland: it's kind of crazy to try to ride this out. it is. leland: what's next? personally a tow boat will be doing a lot of salvage work.

[indiscernible] neil: all right, so -- what we're here youing new neil is a couple of people we're told crafted a place where they are completely cut off now and as you can see it's up to the individuals to try and save each other. the one thing we kept hearing around this community is this community sticks together. they don't call and ask for help they just help each other and that's what's going on right now important to note these guys aren't getting paid. they are out here on their own the coast guard called them and when the coast guard calls everybody in this community answers so now we'll check more of these boats here you're watching to see if anybody is on them neil. neil: all right thank you very very much leland, we'll stick with you as long as we could there despite the audio troubles again because in north carolina you're seeing effects of the storm after the fact of the

boats that are not moored properly and what have you and he's going to obviously be checking on that but he did mention another point that leads m eto my next guest the number of volunteers looking after each other by last count in north carolina alone better than 21,000, these are 21,000 individuals many of whom have families of their own and could be looking after their own and watching their own kids, but they've put their own lives on the line to look after each other, if that rings a bell in the last year the cajun navy by the way playing a big role in this as well it is a reminder it's in the american spirit to do this stuff. sometimes we're so focused on politics and left and the right, these are republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals looking after each other ignoring labels and focusing on a big one that we're all human beings. duke energy communications manager jeff brooks is on the phone filling that same role in for those who are without power. jeff good to have you back with us what are we looking at in the number of let's say in north carolina without power and how

many more could be? >> well good morning, neil. we are looking at about 550,000 customers in north and south carolina who are without power. we're seeing those numbers beginning to climb in south carolina especially as florence makes her way west through there pretty much if you live in a county anywhere along the coast you're without power and so it's a monumental challenge as you've mentioned there's flooding everywhere and that flooding is certainly going to play a major role in our ability to respond in certain areas. neil: i know when it all started and when you and i were chatting a couple of days ago there was a fear that as this moved inland more and more could be without power and it could affect upwards of 3 million north carolinians is that still your fear or will you avoid that? >> well i think we're certainly on track for the bottom end of that 1 to 3 million. we can't predict the future we don't know exactly and this storm is making a grand loop essential around our service

area, moving at a pace that i could walk faster. about two to three miles an hour , so that long duration wind , that rain is creating very hazardous conditions and that is going to lead to more outages as she progresses through the state neil: looking at how this could have been, knowing that this was for a brief time last week this time a category 4 storm closer to land than three, two, hitting about a two or a one and now a tropical storm a lot of people read into that, jeff, all right, problem over. crisis averted. you say what? >> i say that problem is ongoing and is going to be ongoing for days and potentially weeks. we've got certainly winds that are going to continue to persist for a period of time as it moves into the west you've got mountains, you've got rainfall the potential for mudslides and flooding there and as these rivers rise and the water accumulates we'll see scenarios

i think very similar to what we saw in hurricane matthew, potentially hurricane floyd where whole parts of the state are under water. we've already seen interstate 40 down to wilmington is flooded and that's going to create a challenge for us moving crews into that area so we're working through those challenges now working to get our crews there as fast as we can so we can restore power for every customer we serve. neil: thank you very very much. jeff be well your safe and be safe. thank you. all right one of the things we had seen in the storm is the unusual cooperation across party lines, north carolina is one of those unusual states that the democratic governor republican lt. governor yet both were on air talking about cooperation with each other you often types will see a democratic governor working with a number of republican mayors or vice versa. that wasn't always the case and i need to go back to only katrina to remember how everyone was with everyone and that was then very different now. how both sides have put aside the politics to focus on

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neil: all right as mentioned earlier the cooperation between a number of municipalities and their state governors and fema, michael brown is looking at all of this as boy i wish i had that when i was running fema for president bush. i like to joke, michael and i don't mean any insult to you or anyone else that you were a target of a lot of criticism simply trying to get those from competing venues and bias together to say nothing of a political party and no one talked to each other and you were like the monkey in the middle. that was then now you're seeing cooperation in north carolina between the democratic governor and his republican lt. governor between republican congressmen working with democratic state officials and it's all going smoothly. lessons from katrina what do you think? >> neil i think you're much

wiser than your staff gives you credit for. neil: [laughter] >> something you said in that last break about people coming together. here is my theory about this. i think the country, if you think back 13 years ago to katrina and we think that was polarized and now in this history we look at where we are today and everybody is at everybody's throats at least in the political world. i believe this sincerely that american citizens are looking for ways to rise above that. they're looking for ways to help each other and looking for ways to do not what the politicians are doing but what americans have traditionally donald that is help each other and i think that we're seeing that so the worst washington gets i think the better flyover country gets. neil: yeah and i think politicians in those regions realize that or maybe just put their party labels aside and decide to honor the more important one that is being a human being and whether you're a democratic governor or

republican lt. governor in a state like north carolina hard hit no one really much cares, that what they care about is getting help. what they care about is that you looking after them and taken care of, right? >> i think so and when you think back to katrina, i know we had the focal point of the superdome but even in hurricane maria, even in hurricane harvey last year, we still had those visuals but i think what you saw was and of course there are certain aspects of your industry that is going to continue to criticize the president particularly when it's the opposition party, but i think what people are doing is saying i've had enough of that. i've had enough of this everybody just kind of complaining about everything. let's actually stand up and go do something and i think that's what we're seeing now. neil: do you think that the beast feeds itself though as much as it's said if you look at other networks this one included looking at presidential responses to hurricanes much has been said of this president's

response to puerto rico but that was last year. he might have compounded that with saying it was a job and all of that but i'm just wondering, shouldn't we be focusing on the here and now and this and we can tara part and get into the details of what happened with puerto rico later. well and actually i wrote about that yesterday. my contention is this. the president doesn't serve himself well when he's focused on something that happened a year ago and the methodology of how you count deaths. what he ought to be doing about right now is talking about the great work that brock long the current head of fema is doing, the great work the fema people are doing, the great work of the volunteers and the non- government organizations are doing the great work that democrat governors reporter con governors as you said it crosses party lines. neil: but should you be careful about bragging period? i saw this in sandy where the governors of all of the respective states at the time and i take no fault against them

they are trying to help their people that's fine i get it but we later learned a lot of people were slow to get aid and a lot of them stuck in their homes with mold et cetera so shouldn't you be careful to jump the gun and brag about anything until it's all resolved? >> neil there's a very fine line between bragging and supporting and what i'm arguing for is that the president should be talking about or tweeting about that is a way of communicating and what he ought to be doing is tweeting the support for the people on the ground. don't be bragging about what a good job it is. be talking about we're giving them the resources we need. we're supporting them. i'm telling my cabinet to do everything they can to help brock long and giving him what he needs and i'm telling you that from a very personal perspective because as you know i couldn't get the cabinet's attention during katrina and right now what we're seeing is they understand and there's always good that comes out of bad, rosenstein it? and i think one of the good that has come out of katrina is that

politicians have all understood that this is a four-legged stool , it's citizen, state government, local government and federal government and everybody needs to work together and i've got to tell you if i had to go through what i went through to get these politicians and folks to understand that, then i'm happy to have done it. neil: and you did a good deal. a lot of people are seeing you pop-up oh, that guy and i try to point out because i seen the memos i've seen the updates that you were giving and the warnings you were given when it comes to katrina and a host of storms prior the track record on you is clear. you tried you can great work in the middle of political fights. history was very unkind to you my friend and unfair. but you were very fair and i greatly appreciate that. neil: well i had the proof. it's not a matter of being fair. the proof was that you were concerned and raised the concern of everyone up to the president of the united states. that was then. i think a lot of the progress we're seeing michael is because of what you did back then.

>> well and again, see you are a wise man so don't let your staff tell you otherwise. neil: forget about my staff talk to my wife. [laughter] neil: michael brown thank you very much good seeing you. you bet. neil: you know, i know the history on this folks i was really involved in watching the exchange of warnings and everything else. the guys got a bum rap, period. myrtle beach, south carolina mayor now joins us on the phone. what's going on there now mayor what are you seeing? >> good morning, neil. today is actually relatively calm for the most part. we are still in a tropical storm warning and that should kick up later on this afternoon but overall myrtle beach fared very very well compared to our neighbors in north carolina and those that are inland from us. neil: now, did many heed the warning i know myrtle beach was one of those areas where you and other elected officials were saying you know the better part might be to clear out. how many did do that?

we were very successful with the evacuation process. we had from what we could best guess at least 60% compliant. that is huge for us, and it's easy for people to sit back now and say well the storm really wasn't that bad why did we have to evacuate. well it's a natural disaster and we don't know what it's going to be. we thank god that it wasn't worse than it was, but we also need to be mindful that we could have had it much worse, so putting people's safety is critical in a situation like this, so i'm happy that we had that many people evacuate and now we just want to try to get people home safely and reach out and help those that even though we weren't badly affected we need to reach out to help those who were. neil: mayor thank you very very much. i know you haven't had much sleep looking after all of this.

i'm sure your residents appreciate it. your state appreciates it. certainly myrtle beach area they appreciate it thank you again. we're going to have the latest, with some of the most incredibly stunning images coming out of this hurricane zone. every single hit he's been in a different place, every single hit he's given us a different vantage point and he's coming up

neil: we've had, it's stunning images coming out of this hurricane florence and the after age of all of the areas she hit but for my money griff jenkins has been particularly noteworthy because he joins us right now in new bern, north carolina with the latest. griff? griff: hey, neil yeah, new bern hit hard earlier this morning around 3:00 a.m. new bern authorities tell me they are still doing about 100 rescues to

total 375 yesterday but let me just show you the challenges. this is wind damage actually not that epic flooding in a major road in new bern. duke energy said they were going to get out as fast as they can so here is their guys look at this power line down it was a live wire they've grounded it, it's secure they are trying right beyond them another pole coming down. now the state of north carolina, duke energy tells us that about 815,000 and surrounding counties including craven here as well as back in morehead city where we were and down in newport, all power out and these guys are working furiously. you can't quite tell it's starting to sprinkle but certainly the forecast we're expecting a lot of rain and it makes things difficult but you know hats off to these guys, neil, that are out here that aren't afraid to brave these elements to try and help these people without power as we head into more rain, obviously no one can get back and fourth just to give a little bit of context.

i'm actually traveling with those guys i was talking to earlier in the last hour who were rescuing people in boats and traying to get to somewhere where they rescue people but obviously we aren't going to be able to get through this, the duke energy guys got to do their job neil. neil: you know, griff, what i particularly found moving about all your reports and i know you have no sleep nor does your crew , this one woman earlier today, she was just grief struck she didn't know what to do. griff: just a second, neil. i'm sorry, griff jenkins with fox news we'll get out of our way, our hats off to you on be half of fox news just quick what's your name and how is it going? randy and just getting started. griff: whatever comes rain or shine? >> rain or shine we'll be here. griff: hats off to you, sir and neil that's one of the realities

you put cones out and he didn't want us near that for our own safety. we want to respect that and stay out of his way but i'm sorry i interrupted you, you asked me about an earlier report. neil: by the way you're such a nice guy even when you're getting kicked out of an area you can make the guy kicking you out really like you. that says a lot about you but i know you have to get out but i was struck by the young woman who was walking in a flood zone. how is she doing did you ever get how is she doing now? griff: i don't know. it was interesting, neil. she went to the waters i told her having covered hurricane harvey in houston, so long you just don't know about these waters they are so dangerous and we saw that snake and it's just a telling sign of why she should not have done that but she was very distraught she didn't want to talk to us but it's understandable why she's so distraught because the conditions are so difficult and she had somewhere to be we'd ask her for her phone number i wanted to text her tell her i

was with fox news did she want me to put out the word she needed help for something for someone to do something but she just wanted she was very determined and a lot of times we see time and time again american spirits get hardened they don't want to be broken and she wasn't going to let her spirit be broken whether she had to swim on that suit case or not. neil: griff thank you you're a very modest guy the fact of the matter is you could have done your report and be oblivious to her. you chose to be a human being first and a reporter long long way down the list and you ended up being great at both so thank you, griff very very much. griff: thank you neil we'll try and bring you more and try and get down the road and see what we can find for you. neil: make sure you reporter: kicked out of any other place because you're putting your reputation on the line bud. thank you griff very very much let's get the read from the american red cross the communications director joining us right now. you know, jonathan i was thinking about that young woman with griff and just kind of walking aim researcherly in what looked like was once a parking

lot and the water was very deep. she didn't want to talk to him but she just didn't know what to do. not too far from her, at the time of this report this morning on fox & friends, there was another i think a landscape griff said at the time whole business was in a truck all watered out and destroyed and useless. his whole livelihood destroyed by this storm. i'm sure you're seeing that played out again and again aren't you? >> absolutely and this is what we see in all these events and i had a chance to hear griff's report and that's something we we are concerned about is people are strong and want to get back to their homes and one thing i want your viewers to know is it only takes six inches of fast moving water to sweep somebody away and 12 inches to start to move a car so that's why it's so important that even if you do want to get back to a place, because you don't want to see those water rescues or first responders put themselves in harms way. that's where we are putting so

many resources into the communities so we can provide a safe place and the services that the american red cross offers so you can get through the next couple days and get back to your homes when it's safe and start the recovery process. neil: sir thank you very very much for all of the breaking news. i know you have a busy job and i do appreciate you taking the time. thank you very very much. thank you, neil. neil: we'll be getting other news in here as well. this is the weekend we're on the 10 year anniversary of the collapse of lehman brothers and also the latest from the state department and michael pompeo having harsh words for his predecessors john kerry whose very critical of this administration the foreign policy approach you should hear what pompeo had to say back at him, after this.

neil: all right we are moments away by the way from hearing

from the governor of north carolina and how rescue recovery efforts are going along and also where were you 10 years ago this weekend when lehman brothers went down and the financial meltdown we'll explore that but obviously the focus will be on the hurricane but on the political storm brewing between those who held the secretary of state john kerry is some saying maybe a presidential campaign of his own has been very critical of this administration and its approach to foreign policy in particular dealing with iran that triggered a in-your-face response from the secretary of state mike pompeo, and following it all, in d.c. sir? reporter: neil, secretary pompeo unloaded on his predecessor for meeting iran's foreign minister accusing john kerry of actively undermining u.s. policy against the state sponsor of terrorism. what secretary kerry has done is unseemly and unprecedented. this is a former secretary of state engaged with the world's

largest state sponsor of terror. can't find precedent for this in u.s. history. reporter: pompeo's hardish criticism came one day after president trump tweeted john ker ry had illegal meetings with a very hostile iranian regime which can only serve to undercut the great work of the detriment of the american people and he told them to wait out the trump adminitration and now kerry denied coaching the iranians last night he responded to the president on the bill mah r show. >> the first president that i know of who spends more time reading his twitter likes than his briefing books or the constitution of the united states. [applause] reporter: kerry alsos responded to the tweets with one of his own saying he should be more worried about paul manafort with his meeting with the iranians and he plugged his new book and includes a link where to buy it, neil. neil: he should be more worried about manafort than the iranians

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>> all right. north carolina governor roy cooper is ready to address the press again right now. let's listen in. >> good morning, everyone. the flood danger from this storm is more immediate today than when it was -- than when it made landfall just 24 hours ago. we face walls of water at our coast, along our rivers, across farmlands, in our cities and in our towns. more people now face imminent threat than when the storm was just off shore.

i cannot overstate it, flood waters are rising and if you aren't watching for them, you are risking your life. i have several important warnings this morning. first to the people who have evacuated, if you are safe, stay put. we know that people are anxious to get back home, but don't go back until this storm passes and you get the official all clear. second, know that the water is rising fast everywhere, even in places that don't typically flo flood. this system is unloading epic amounts of rainfall. in some places, measured in feet and not inches. many people who think that the storm has missed them have yet

to see its threats. residents of charlotte, asheville, fayetteville, statesville, the southern piedmont, the sand hills, the mountai mountains, rivers will rise days after the rain has stopped. in the east they will crest monday, tuesday, and wednesday. remember, most storm deaths occur from drowning in fresh water, often in cars. don't drive across standing or moving water. emergency management is sharing flood projections with local officials. if they tell you to evacuate, please do so immediately. it could save your life. the storm has claimed numerous lives already. five deaths have been confirmed as related to the storm, and

several others are under investigation. loss of life is heartbreaking and we'll continue to pray for the victims and their family. in every hour first responders are preventing more deaths. we now have a little over 20,000 people in 157 shelters with room for more. if those shelters fill up, we will establish more shelters. more than 800,000 people throughout the state are currently without power and utility crews are beginning to work now to restore electricity to people. overnight and into this morning more rescues are continuing across eastern north carolina. we are so grateful to these rescue teams who's risked their

lives to save others and they have come from all over the country to work with our local, state and federal partners. recovery teams are now ready with new authorization from fema. last night our major federal disaster declaration for an initial round of counties was approved. that authorizes immediate fema assistance in beaufort, craven, cardrat, new haven, pamlico and pender counties. and we expect more counties and we appreciate the quick turn around by fema. i want to again warn residents of the mountains and the rest of north carolina, especially the southern piedmont. heavy rain is predicted still,

fayetteville, west of charlotte and the mountains, expect flooding and potential landslides beginning tonight and continuing into monday. some of the areas will be impacted that have rarely experienced any flooding. get prepared and stay alert for forecast updates and emergency evacuation orders. finally, please be safe and be smart and use your common sense. don't drive through water, no matter how confident you feel or how much you want to get out of the house. roads are closed in many places and more are closing even as we speak. secretary trogdan will inform you about the closings, when you're out there you're impeding emergency vehicles, you're

impeding utility crews who are trying to restore power, so don't get out, particularly in southeastern north carolina. don't operate a generator indoors. be alert for warnings and flash floods, tornados, high winds. and if you need nonemergency help, dial 211. those using video relay services should dial 888-892-1162. and the ready nc app has information about shelters and i'm also grateful to have monica mcgee to provide american sign language interpretation for us. this storm eventually will leave our state. we in north carolina have been through tough storms and this one is sure testing us. but now is the time for us to

persevere. i have never known north caroli carolinans to quit in the face of a challenge and we are not going to start and speaking of a team that never quits, i'd like to introduce to you some of our team who are working here at the emergency operation center, 24/7. they're working around the clock to keep north carolina safe. i want to introduce to you to my right eric cook, secretary of safety. and beside him, mandy cohen, secretary of health and human resources. and secretary-- >> we're going to continue monitoring this, the mayor -- i'm sorry, the governor of north carolina roy cooper is going to have his staff speak out on what's going on and what preparations are being made for what could be a lot more

flooding and possible landslides to come when this is open to questions we'll be going-- we'll be going back to north carolina. in the meantime, i want to get a read about some of the damage the governor was talking about. jonathan serrie has been monitoring pretty much all over the state. take a look at what he's got now. >> i'm in the town of wrightsville beach. today the winds died down just enough that the mayor, police, other city officials were able to really get a preliminary assessment of the damage and they say that they were relieved that the damage was not nearly as severe as people were anticipating. here is an example of what folks are seeing around the island. these wooden panels they used to surround the bottom level of this condominium. no dwellings here. the condominium is up on stilts. the living quarters are up on stilts, but this is sort of a

utility area. some of the wooden panels were knocked down during hurricane force winds that came through here yesterday, but as far as structural damage, very little, if any, structural damage has been seen around the island. we're mostly talking minor damage, gutters, wooden shingles scattered around the roadway. but because there are shingles on the road, there will also nails and before they allow residents to return to this island to inspector their homes and businesses they want to make sure to clear the debris from the roadways. right now city officials are not giving a specific date or time when people will be allowed to return to their homes and businesses on the island. the police chief just had a news conference a few minutes ago and aid that he estimates sometime early next week. that was as specific as he could get at this point, as right now there are a lot of uncertainties. the power has been out to the

entire island against the storm came ashore. and also, there's no running water right now. city officials shut down their water system to prevent it from damage and right now, they're assessing whether any pump stations or other portions of the water system have been compromised before they get it back online. but the good news, the main take home here is that city officials say the damage, not nearly as severe as it could have been and that will come as a relief to many residents as they eventually return home presumably sometime early next week, neil. neil: all right. thank you very much. jonathan serrie and again, to put that in context, and jonathan touched on it, as did the governor of north carolina moments ago -- we're monitoring that press conference by the way -- that mud and landslides are in areas where they're not aware or have not been in the past. and that's further inland

raleigh and points west. and any updates and aggressive q & a back and forth, we'll keep you posted. and ken graham, how does this look now? >> i tell you, neil, the big problem we have is just the slow movement. our movement is west at two miles an hour, monitoring on radar. look at this problem we have. the rain area here, the rain band, where we have the heavy rain and tornados and a lot of the winds associated with this system, the problem this moves at the same rate as the center. as slow as the center goes at 2 miles an hour, so does the area of rain. repetitive rain over areas that we've already received 20 to 30 areas. one rain gauge over 30 inches already. neil: so when the governor was talking about landslides being a possibility in some states that don't know that, he's talking about obviously points further inland. how further inland are we looking at? flooding, that kind of stuff? >> look at the rainfall forecast

and put this together. this is additional inches of rain. so on the coast we have those rain bands, 15 to 20. you make such a good point. inland look at the rain. we're talking about some of the hill countries and mountains, 10 to 15 inches of rain, six to ten, even towards asheville, getting close to that six to ten mark. that rain is yet to come. this isn't over yet. we have the slow movement and usually on the right-hand side you get the heavy rain. this is yet to come over the next several days. neil: ken, thank you. you've been great and i appreciate the guidance through this craziness. ken graham the national hurricane center. let's go to north carolina, the sheriff on the phone. a beacon of concern especially for folks that abandoned their homes, that looters come out of nowhere and can get dicey. what's the latest on that front? >> yes, sir, we've had a few instances where people have--

the criminals basically have come out and tried to break into cars on the southern end of our county. our county is situated between myrtle beach, south carolina and wilmington, north carolina, 155 square miles. we received a call of a suspicious persons and we were able to make arrests after the suspects were hiding under vehicles. later on that same night, we had two individuals attempt to break into a store on the north end of our county and fortunately, our deputies were there in less than a minutes and were able to apprehend both of those. and again last night, we had another store was broken into on our county line, situated next to the neighboring county of columbus, and we were able to make an arrest in that situation as well. we knew going into this, this was a potential and we wanted enough resources out there to protect the property as best we could so that people that had evacuated heeded the warning to

make sure that they took safe shelter, didn't have to worry about their property, and didn't have to worry about for those to say -- stayed people breaking in on them as well. or if they did, being able to respond in short order. it's unfortunate that people look on these opportunities to prey on the vulnerability of people when situations are at its worst. and we are trying our best to make sure that we can contain that as much as possible. neil: well, you know, you're always when you hear that, and a lot of people hear that and say this is the reason i don't clear out of town when authorities tell me to clear out of town because people can ransack my house, but it sounds like it was limited, this kind of activity was very limited, am i right? >> so far it's been limited because we really try to stay vigilant and we've made sure, our commissioner put a curfew in

effect last night and for me and the deputies basically anything moving on the streets to investigate it and make sure that people know that they're supposed to be off the roads and any suspicious persons we encounter, we make sure that we're checking them out thoroughly and get people off the roads and out of the communities that shouldn't be there. it's a big task because our main priority is protecting lives. we've had several situations where people decide to stay at their house, did not evacuate, and then we've had trees go through roofs of some of the houses and we've had to respond to render assistance to those people as well. so it's been a challenge to say the least as far as our resources have gone and we've had communication issues, cell towers going down. so, there's more water, there's more rain in this hurricane, with this hurricane coming through than i've ever seen in 27 years and we've been through a lot of them. but i think if we don't set

records we're going to be close to setting records as far as water levels. neil: well, you've been remarkable, sheriff, you and the men and women grateful for hard work and little sleep. sheriff, thank you very, very much. in the meantime, have you ever eaten at a waffle house? you'll a card carrying member. i wonder if they have an aarp card for that. look into it. there are waffle houses in the east coast and southeast, gulf coast to florida. there's something called a waffle house index and it's a real index, based on if a waffle house is open, it's like a green light. it indicates there's enough power and they're cooking a full menu and everything is hunky dory. and if it's a yellow light, limited power, but still trying to do their thing. if it's red, the store is either closed or inoperable and right

now, they're getting the latest on a waffle house indicator that shows that the region already could be trying to come back. a waffle house spokesman pat warner joins us. pat, it's a fascinating index because it's proven to be an uncanny read, what looks good, what areas are traversable and what don't. what are you hearing right now? what does your index tell you? >> right now, neil, we had about 230 restaurants in the storm's path. we had 17 closed right now. we have nine of them open and serving food, but they do not have power so they would be a daylight only restaurant. and we have seven on generator. we're faring pretty well with only 17 closed right now. neil: that's remarkable. there's been what, i want a gauge from you about the numbers you've mentioned for us and they know there are some without power altogether and don't have a generator at all, then that's an area to avoid or at least it's not seeing any action? >> right, we're kind of an

indicator how quickly the community is coming back after the storm. if we're open quickly, we know they're coming back or get back to a sense of normalcy. we take pride being the canary in the coal mine we've been called. we've been called the waffle house index and we're pretty proud that people look to us to see if we're coming back. neil: i think you should be proud of your waffles. i'm a connoisseur of this. how are your restaurants holding up? >> we're holding up pretty well. we're bringing in what we call jump team to help the local restaurant operators. close to 120 people so far. restaurant managers from across the country that want to come help out their waffle house family there in north carolina and south carolina, so they're helping the local operations team get the restaurants back open so the local folks can focus on what's important which is their families and their associates. neil: well, god bless you and your food. thank you very much. hopefully everything will come back up to steam and soon.

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>> we are still monitoring that north carolina press conference, who's who of officials on the left and right, including the governor himself, indicating to

north carolinians, don't get complacent, especially these further inland, rain and possible mudslides are coming your way. be careful and vigilant. jeff flock is there. hey, jeff. >> that's the headline, neil. i tell you. it's not over, it is not over. as maybe you can tell here in terms of the winds and the convection and the rain. this is what's coming their way. we're now because of the storm moving to the west of us and the south of us, still getting the outer bands of this and these outer bands, as maybe you can tell are pretty strong and that's all headed that way until the storm gets completely over land, maybe, and not getting any water, you know, going up into it from the atlantic, i think we're still looking at this kind of condition. i can just tell you, i've been looking and we just saw, ben

spotted them, two power trucks and we're still in tropical storm force winds. they're not going to be up on top of poles, but it's the earliest i've seen power trucks rog into a coastal town while you're still getting tropical storm force winds. they're not getting up on the poles until the winds are done, but they're in position and ready to go. maybe you saw yesterday as this storm was making landfall here, that the eye was coming down and we were in the eyewall, we had transformers blowing all over town. it was 5:00 in the morning, maybe 6:00 before dawn and so we were seeing the blue, the characteristic blue flashes of the transformers blowing and there was a lot of work to do. we certainly don't have power now. they're here and ready to go. they're on it like i haven't seen them on it before. that's a good sign. neil: all right, jeff. thank you very, very much. be safe. jeff flock in the middle of all of this.

let's go to the senior deputy administrator, daniel, good to have you back. how are things looking from your front? >> well, we at fema are prepared to respond. we've expected this now for a week. so far, it has lived up to expectations. we had the strong winds and storm surge early on, and now this is transitioned to an inland flooding event. this is going to be with us for days into the future and in the area where it is right now, with it moving five miles an hour across the land and eventually making its way to the mid atlantic. neil: when it's all over, and i know this turns around, you know, does a buzz around the northeast later this week, and then what? >> well, we believe it's going to have some severe impacts on virginia and west virginia, as it moves north. and we at fema are following this storm as it tracks. so we have commodities, we have equipment, we have personnel that are staged in all of these areas from georgia, all the way up to maryland. so, as soon as it moves, we

move. as soon as the tropical storm winds die down, you'll see a massive response effort underway. >> now, how is that coordinated with local officials? for example, do you do anything different in north carolina than say in south carolina and the states that get the winds and the rain, west virginia? how do you coordinate that? >> so, we at fema are working with our state and local partners to support what ever things they need. so as we prepare for this storm, we ask the states, what the potential gaps you might have, where are shortfalls and where can we plug the gaps? a lot of requests were for swift water rescue teams or helicopters or high water trucks. all have been deployed to the area and all have been employed in the rescue areas where the storms have hit. the resources are available to the government, north carolina, south carolina and the areas hit. neil: administrator, thank you very, very much. you have a lot of work to do and we appreciate you taking the

time. let's go to wilmington. a resident there, john, did you stick this out or what did you do? >> yes, sir, we decided we were going to stay because we prepared as best we could. we've been through many hurricanes in the past, but i've got to tell you, this one was worse than anything i have been through and i've been through a hurricane many times in my life. in 1985 i drove a fire truck for nine hours in hurricane gloria, in the hurricane itself and this was far worse than that, devastation-- >> what was the worst about it? was it the rain, the pounding rain, that it didn't move, that it stayed over? because it came in, really, as a category 1 and a lot of people were leaving, and saying it's not going to be a problem and you're saying the opposite. >> it came as a category 2 at first and down to a category 1. the devastation here is catastrophic.

everything. the trees and things that have come across the roads and fallen on houses and unfortunately we had a mother and infant baby killed when the tree fell on the house and had to be extricated by the fire department who did an outstanding job in their work. we've had so many different things been going on. we've pulled together as a community. we had two young guys were michigan saw a need that needed to be filled and they filled up a trailer with a bunch of generators and came down here and basically selling them as best they can and everybody is buying them because we need generators. i had to buy one because my generator died. and it's amazing how the community's come together. and everybody is stepping up, going out and helping everybody else. my wife and i have been driving out and helping everybody that we can see. we went around to churches. church family members-- the church where my wife works, checking friends houses and

houses and that's all we can do now, we have no power, no electric, but only by the grace of god do we have cell phones, i don't know how else to describe it. >> you know, john, the governor was talking a few moments ago about the need for people further inland to realize a lot of the rain and flooding is coming to them. and they can see that. any words of advice for those folks? >> don't be a hero, don't try and drive through anything, and the flooded roads with the car because you'll end up dead. the roads here are bad, but on the high spots where my house is located, for instance, the flooding was minimal. the worst i think this we had here were the winds and downed trees and power lines, but inland from where i live and for instance, where my son lives, he is a career firefighter, the roads down there are-- almost everything is completely underwater and he's been driving around in the fire truck now for 12 hours, just doing what he can

do to help people out and there's more people that are being rescued because they're going out and they shouldn't be going. neil: what are you going to be doing the rest of today? >> as much as i can to help. my wife and i are headed down to the church where she works right now just to check it out and see what, in anything, can be done there. i don't think there's going to be much and then head home and do what we can do. neil: you're an amazing man and your wife sounds like an amazing person. jon, thank you so much for taking the time. good words of advice all by the way. and coming up we'll get a read from the final insights from the governor and what he wants done right now and warnings to north carolinia carolinians further inland, the rain and mudslides, something that interior north carolina haven't seen in the past, they're going to be seeing it if they haven't already and soon. remembering something that happened ten years ago today the largest bankruptcy filing in

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country. they have over three million head of hog and a lot of those hogs are going to be wiped out because of the storm. you can only do so much to protect the hog crop and with this incredible flooding you're probably going to lose millions and millions of pigs and hogs because of the storm. and it's even deeper because this could cause a huge environmental disaster in this area, neil, because north carolina uses a lot of that hog waste to turn into fertilizer for a later date. so they have these huge pits where they store a lot of this waste and when you get this big flooding in there it actually can become toxic and make it a lot more difficult for the workers to get in there and bring things back to normal. neil: and it's already happening because savvy guys like you and the ones you cover trade this, pork futures and the like on the markets, and they've been rocketing, right? >> they have been. we've seen an incredible move up

in the pork market and in a late move up actually in the live cattle market. a lot of people thought, well, north carolina doesn't really produce that much, many heads of cattle. south carolina does, but it's unimaginable that the storm would impact that. now the market's having a second thought with all of this flooding. we could lose 500 to a thousand head of cattle and we sow prices they were locked limit up. when the market moved so fast, they had to pause trading because everybody was buying and nobody wanted to sell. neil: there's an energy component. can you explain that? >> north carolina is home to one of the major pipelines that brings gas and diesel fuel from the gulf of mexico to new york ap new jersey along the way. there's concern that the storms could take the pipes out if we

had enough flooding. so far it doesn't look like that's happened. but in the north carolina area, there's problem for gasoline for weeks. before the storm, half of the gas stations ran out of gas as people were trying to flee the storm and to get gas back in the area it's going to take time. you've got to get the power back, the roads back and check the tanks to make sure they weren't damaged in the flooding. it's going to be difficult. the good news is we have a lot of gasoline. there's no major refineries in north carolina so the price increase was really modest. even in north carolina, prices only spiked 8 to 10 cents a gallon, but it will take a while to get back to normal and prices could stay elevated for some time. neil: phil, you're the best at explaining this. and it could unwind sort of like the economy when you have the hurricane hit and the building and activity is lost in the

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>> all right. when woo he got the word that florence was on the move, we sent christina of fox business network fame to go to the belly of the beast and check out her first hurricane. and she's in lords, south carolina right now. what does it look like there right now? >> neil, i'm inside a house outside of the myrtle beach area. what you're seeing is peggy, a 74-year-old woman who owns this home. this home is about 40 years old. the damage-- we're starting in the living room so you can see. the water just dripping. i was told that the ceiling is actually filled with water above this so i'm not going to touch it, but you can see the water coming down. all the carpet is wet, so, even

squish, you can smell it, too, at this point. i'm going to move into the kitchen shall the front entrance part over here, where you can clearly see that the damage is a lot worse over here. i asked if they knew when this happened. luckily, peggy had evacuated early on, so, we're not sure when the damage actually started, but obviously, there's no power here. there's no power in the area because a bunch of neighbors are in this. you've got at least six cars that have stopped to see if they need help and friends, family members, all outside and we're going to head out there in a moment, but if you can see some of the damage and obviously the water, they're trying to capture it as much as they can to prevent any further damage. so there you go. there's water all over the floor, the ceiling. they have to pull it down because how heavy the rain was. so we're going to step outside and see some of the people and talk to peggy's son. he's here and you can see some of the roof and all of that. we're going to head over to woody. woody is waiting to chat with me, he graciously accepted so i

really appreciate that, woody. we've got to start with, tell me like what are you guys doing here today and trying to fix? >> trying to keep the roof from leaking. the roof leaking is-- it went through the ceiling in the house and wet the floors and it's a mess. >> and luckily, your mom got out in time. so, where is she right now and what does she think of everything that's happened to her home? >> actually right now, she really doesn't know. >> you haven't told her? >> no. >> well, i didn't want to upset her driving back from charleston back home. >> when is she coming back? >> probably today or tomorrow. >> you'll have to break the news to her. >> right. >> how do you think she'll react? >> she'll be upset. >> with this damage, in this region, we only went into rooms, what's the rest? >> where the shingles came out leaked down inside the ceiling

and it's swelling the ceiling and it's a mess. >> it's a mess and your mom is 74 years old. this house has been around for about, you said over five years. >> yes. >> that's your cousin up there working hard. how are you going to pay for this? >> she doesn't have any insurance so we'll do whatever we've got to do. >> she doesn't have any insurance, but this house has been here for a while and probably withstood hurricanes. was there previous damage in the past? >> we had a little when one came through, but nothing like this. >> your friends and family are in the background and i was speaking to some of them. they've have had the necessarily damaged homes, but without power. what are you hearing from people in the neighborhoods? >> this is about the only place i've come through, probably about five miles down the road and this is basically the worst that i've seen, all the way here, you know.

>> i guess that's pretty good news if this is the worst. unfortunately for your mother and family it's not good news. we are seeing a lot of people on the roads helping and working with each other. and what do you think for all of those people that chose not to evacuate like yourselves? >> well, there's good and bad to both of them. you leave home and you never know what you got and you might could have done something quicker to keep it from actually damaging it further. >> yeah. but, you never know. >> at least you've got friends and family here, good luck trying to tell your mom this afternoon. i know it's not going to be fun. neil, i'll throw it back to you in the studio. neil: incredible. christina, it sounded like not everybody, obviously, cleared out of the area, and they're already working to get things back to normal, including this, you know, gentleman's mother's house. but many others, it's going to take a lot longer, rit. right? >> you have about 15% of the population who stayed in the area and chosen not to evacuate.

around 1 p.m. eastern time by myrtle beach we're expecting a storm surge and it's not going to be as high as what it was previously expected, but, still, look at this. we were standing outside in t-shirts before and now it's starting to pour again. what's going to happen in this area, you're going to see inland flooding unfortunately and that's the cause for concern, especially it's starting to pour right now. further homes could be potentially damaged and a lot of peoples have been calling officials, hey, can i come back? i've got to check my home. they say, no, don't come back, flooding could get worse and we don't need crowded roads when we need to help people. neil. neil: and reporting when he has to talk to his mom, but she'll have a home to go back to. repairs, but a home to go back to. >> exactly. neil: we'll detail that and what the governor has said in north carolina, and in south carolina, and those inland are going to

see some of this, some expected flooding and streams and rivers to surge and that's part of the problem, the water. lots of it. someone counted it up to be five trillion gallons. i don't know how they came to that after this. today, 97% of employers agree that skills like teamwork, attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. like the ones we teach here, every day.

>> all right. where were you a decade ago today? it was september 15th, 2008. it was a monday that year, lehman brothers filed for bankruptcy. it was the biggest bankruptcy in american history and all of a sudden 25,000 financial workers were out of a job. a $600 billion hit because that went away. a $10 trillion meltdown was on and the most memorable meltdown in american history, maybe save the depression itself, was also on. that was then. let's take a look back now.

>> is this a defining issue for the remaining months? >> no, fiscal is one of the issues. >> unpress departmented in american history. >> lehman brothers filing for chapter 11 bankruptcy. the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth. >> the record will indicate that mr. paulson answered in the affirmative. >> i take full responsibility for the decisions that i made. >> they want a bailout, they say get out! >> and for the actions that i took. >> and here the worries that lehman brothers headquarters at midtown manhattan are more personal, worries about the company, the people's jobs. >> i just lost my job pretty

much or i will soon, it's devastating. >> greed took over common sense. >> donald trump from his new york offices now with an update on something he told me almost a year ago. >> maybe they should suffer. maybe that bank should go under. maybe that bank should be taken over. i don't see how the government can help. >> what do you make of this now, that finally the government says what you've said in that interview, the spigot stops, but the spigot had been running for a while? >> well, i think the governor is going the right thing. they've worked hard, worked long, it's a mess. >> and republicans have stood on principle trying to make sure we protect the taxpayer and try to do everything we can to ensure this package will work the way it's intended. >> i don't like lightly ever putting the taxpayers, taxpayer on the line to support an institution. >> can we read that as-- >> don't read it as no more. >> aig out and everyone, everyone trying to figure out

who's next. >> shares plunging and today the dow dropping more than 400 points, even after the government announced its plan to rescue aig. >> aig, as far as i know, wasn't bailed out. i was-- >> taken over. >> it was taken over. >> and you would have preferred like an emergency credit line, but not an outright takeover? the government obviously felt otherwise, how do you feel about that. >> it's a done deal. the government signing into law the biggest financial rescue in american history. neil: a day after the rescue, the rumble. >> no, no, jack, this is serious. >> wait a minute, neil-- >> when you cash out of the markets, is that a mistake. >> at that i can a look at those markets. this is what happens when you get a rescue deal, the selloff off the handoff. >> we've got to step back. there's lots more the government has to do. there's lots more that-- . you said that, that's scary

coming from you. >> no, i-- >> there's a lot more the government has to do. i call them zombies from calling for a financial rescue and nearly every big name free capitalist i know says the market and economy needs this. you, mr. free market capitalist, probably one of the best ceo's of the last century, are signing on to what an essentially a fiscal hail mary pass. >> no, it's another step in trying to-- >> you don't buy in, jack. >> i love you, but-- >> you must confess today, you don't buy this. >> i love you, but sometimes we need intervention to bridge the gap for some crisis. >> mark, you could solve this problem if you just write a check, but i guess you're not going to do that. >> even i can't write a check that big. >> when you talk about bailing out, bailing out, my answer is

in the first place, you're coming to the end of the movie. what we've got to do-- >> and it looks like quite a few sequels. >> excuse me, but the interruptions interfere. >> answer my question, are there going to be sequels? >> we are going to try to put into place regulation of the sort that will say no, there won't be sequels. >> do you think intrinsically it was a mistake on both party's part to push for-- to push for home ownership for everybody? >> i think clearly what happened is fannie and freddie got caught up in trying to do what the congress wanted done. >> this is an administration that wanted to remove regulation from every sector of the economy and now we're seeing the results. >> and hindsight is wonderfully 20/20, but-- >> that isn't hindsight. we tried to forewarn about the-- >> i'm not at sharpest tool in the shed, but i'm in the shed. >> i'm worried the whole of

america. >> i think we have to worry. if lehman brothers can can bankrupt, can a bank like citi bank go? >> it started ten years ago today. the dow falling more than it had since the 9/11 events. better than 450 points. do you know what happened after that? we stormed back. it took a while, but we stormed back, we've been in and out of records since. it's the reminder as well no matter what we go through in this country's incredible history, be they financial storms or, well, real mother nature storms, we come back. it's in stuff that reminds us of that, that we pick ourselves up and we find a way to claw ourselves back. the democratic administrations, republican administrations, big spending congressmen, not so big spending congressmen, ceo's who come and go, but throughout this nerd here, i like to call myself fox's chief nerd sees it and admires it.

and one referred to that as dull. i embrace it, but what i just showed you there is real, the comeback, the historic comeback is real, it's palpable, it's us. and all this week, we'll be exploring it. bye-bye.

>> here we go, it is high noon here in wilmington, north carolina. good afternoon, everybody, across the country. welcome to our ongoing coverage of hurricane florence, now tropical storm florence. it's been a long, long night, and the rain bands swirl in southeastern north carolina. and northeastern south carolina and the rain pushing deeper into the waters of the rivers in north carolina, as well as south across the southern border in the valley. we'll take you over the next several hours of emergency management and talking to mayors up and down the coast and the governor in north carolina as