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you see a boat almost floating to the top of its roof. this is the neuse river. it's 14 feet, the neuse river record is 21.5. it's causing the houses to be destroys. it's making the recovery in fixing the power lines much more difficult as we expect a lot more rain this afternoon. it's expected to be here at least a calm days. the airport will be closed until tuesday or wednesday. berare of alligators. so we'll try to not get eaten as we report this catastrophic

flooding in jacksonville. howie: he wades into the water after these storms. the mainstream media reacted cautiously to the initial report that senator feinstein forwarded to the fbi an tea anonymous letter -- an anonymous letter saying a womb fan said brett kavanaugh held her down and he tried to force himself on her. >> whether you are for kavanaugh or not -- >> it's hard for everyone to know what to do with this allegation which is extremely grave and serious. but the identity of the woman is

being hidden understandably. howie: kavanaugh said in a statement, i categorically and unequivocally deny the allegations. joining me, emily jashinsky, sara fischer, and adrienne elrod. should the media be wary of embracing this allegation from an unnamed woman from a time when brett kavanaugh was 17 years old. emily: this is one allegation, it's anonymous. this person is not going to come out and vet it. the public hasn't seen the

letter dianne feinstein has. we don't know why it took her months for this to come forward. howie: even some liberal commentators at msnbc reacting cautiously. did the "new yorker" provide cover for the rest of the media to say it's safe to jump on this story. sara: now that ronan farrow has developed a reputation, if he's going to come out and say i have seen some reporting on this, i want to go out on it. his reporting on les moonves and others, but it doesn't might's the be all-end all.

we don't have enough information, even from what roman farrow reported. howie: we are left with a letter we haven't seen. even hbo's liberal bill maher says it makes us look bad. adrienne: i'm going to disagree with some of these liberal commentators. since this is a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land, the media scrutiny isn't wait should be. the #metoo era has changed everything. what might not have been as newsworthy or relevant to getting confirmed to the supreme court or any judicial nomination, it's changed now. howie: this happened at the end

of the process. does it give you any pause? adrienne: to real i evaluate this, the accuser need to come forward. howie: this is a trump supreme court nominee and farrow worked for the state department. after the hearings finished, she was willing to come forward and testify and be cross-examined. in the case of this unnamed accuser, no. sara: we don't know to what extent she has been pressed into answering. ronan farrow is in a tricky position. he did an interview with npr where he pressed them to answer

process questions about the senate when he was in the democratic administration. howie: dianne feinstein first received this letter in july, she didn't have kavanaugh about it. the san francisco chronicle said what feinstein did is unfair all around to democrats and republicans on the committee. that's unusual coming from the "chronicle." sara: even when you have people like bill maher coming out saying all around, it looks like democrats are pulling this out to derail the nomination. howie: i don't want to minimize the woman who says she is

traumatized by what happened 40 years ago. but you are right when you say it looks like a last hit. adrienne: it's unfortunate it's coming out now. but it's coming out. these hearings should be delayed. howie: why do you have a different take on this? adrienne: i think the #metoo hearing changed everything. what might not have gotten more scrutiny, now it's getting scrutiny. 65 women who say they knew kavanaugh in high school who weren't to an all boys high school, georgetown prep. howie: let me move on to a

bombshell in the russia investigation. the paul manafort guilty plea. the president tweeting the illegal witch hunt still in search of a crime. he has pled guilty in the second place that was supposed to take place and he signed a cooperation agreement with robert mueller. is the media speculation about how much of a serious threat to the president this is, is it justified or overblown. emily: paul manafort was the manager of donald trump's campaign and in regular contact with pro-russia forces in ukraine. it was the bipartisan swamp. he was working with the podesta group on behalf of pro-russian

forces. it's more bipartisan than the media reported. howie: he was at the infamous trump tower meeting along with jared kushner and donald trump, jr. sara: look at papadopoulos, look at gates. if there is anyone who would be able to prove a collusion, not saying there was. but if there was someone who could connect the dots, it's someone with the closest ties, paul manafort. howie: the president praised manafort for not flipping. now rudy giuliani's lawyer telling sean hannity the guilty

plea is irrelevant. adrienne: this is a big deal and it interrupted hurricane coverage when the paul manafort guilty plea came forward. there was no one on the campaign with bigger ties to russia. howie: the thing he pleaded guilty to and have been convicted of had nothing to do with donald trump and the campaign. let me get a break here. hurricanes have much in the news. we'll have more on tropical depression florence. the president's handling of the hurricane have much in the news. -- very much in the news. -omar, look. [ thunder rumbles ] omar, check this out. uh, yeah, i was calling to see if you do laser hair removal.

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howie: even as hurricane florence was bearing down on the carolinas, much of the media began battering the president as a lousy president with no empathy for hurricane victims. president trump the problem with puerto rico is their electric grid and generating plant was dead before the storms hit. i think puerto rico was an incredible unsolved success. howie: he tweeted 3,000 people did not die in puerto rico. when i left the island after the storm left there were 6 to 18 deaths. then a long time later they started to report much larger numbers like 3,000. this was done by the democrats to make me look responsible.

>> he obviously did not feel a bit of grief for the 3,000 people killed by those hurricanes. >> how stupid, how offensive, how offensive to the relatives of the 3,000 people who died in puerto rico. >> the left-wing media jumped on these numbers for political purposes but they have to foundation in fact. howie: the president said this was cooked up by the democrats. what's your take? emily: the president is frustrated because there aring things out of his control. if there is something that's not compassionate about doing that, his reaction, his frustration is

understandable. his reaction isn't understandable. this is not political. this is the deaths of people. this is people's lives. and to push a conspiracy theory with no substantiation. i was disappointed that he did. howie: there is an argument to be made, this isn't a body count. it's a george washington study that calculated how many more people died after the hurricane than a comfortable period before this form. i think that's one of the things that triggered a lot of the harsh reaction. >> the number he got when he was on the ground is going to be different than the number you are going to calibrate at the number of people who died because they didn't get aid. one of the numbers cited in the

study is they don't think medical professionals knew how to fill out the death certificates. howie: the death toll is not 3,000, but it's not 16. people couldn't get clean water or medical supplies. the media are casting this as the president turning it into politics. adrienne: he's blaming democrats for this. there is no political advantage to him doing this is to keep this in the news a little bit longer, and again i don't know why. howie: he feels this is a devastating storm on an impoverished island and he feels he's being blamed for the high

death toll. emily: i think he's getting an under share of the blame from some people. the president of the united states, people did lose their lives, rise above it. howie: the media was bringing back last year's matter, the president is not good at this. he's self-absorbed. trump struggles to embraips concealer-in-chief roll. emily: he does get more than his share of the blame. and i understand that. howie: he is not bill clinton or barack obama. but i think the media just don't like his style. saying this is not the approved

way presidents should deal with crises, because you have to hug more people. in other issues member that's the case. but on this i think we agree on this. he has turned this story on himself and he's not showing any empathy. howie: that part about the empathy is a value judgment. it's true president trump didn't focus sustained focus on puerto rico compared to louisiana and texas last year. puerto rico was not in the forefront of media coverage the wait others were. sara: puerto rico is a territory, it's not a state. we are not dealing with it as being equal. the media didn't cover this hurricane the same way they covered the hurricanes in the

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we became stronger because of that. but this seems a far graver thought to the idea of america. >> you don't like trump, fine. you are equating him now of being potentially worse than terrorists? you completely lost your mind. howie: it did sounds like he's insinuating the president is a greater threat than terrorists. he respond saying i should have shown more care on the tweeting and the column's conclusion. he'll read the column again and see if i could have said it in a less offensive way to trump supporters. the "new york times" with a headline, the you are taints?

$52,000 attributing it to nikki haley. the fourth paragraph said the ambassador said the plans

patently false. i agree it' not healthy for the body politics on either side. we have tried, the president has tried to turn down the temperature to give mere access. howie: jeff fager fired by cbs. and seen that google video? the executives trashing trump?

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the network. >> when we cover a story sunday night and it has impact monday morning, that's what you hope for. howie: les moonves was fired last week and another article in the "new yorker" reported that six more women are accusing moonves of sexual assault. >> he's always treated me fairly. there is no excuse for this alleged behavior. it's systematic and pervasive in our culture. howie: he was once accused of grabbing an intern's butt at a party. >> if you repeat these false accusations without any of your own reporting to back them up, you will be held responsible for

harming me. he went on to say, be careful, there are people who lost their jobs trying to harm me. if you pass on these damaging claims without your own reporting to back them up, that will become a serious problem. >> the message was unacceptable. howie: joining me, charlie gasparino. i was stunned. he was essentially threatening the reporter for doing her job. charlie: and somebody he works with. those of us look at this and said he's getting fired over a text message that said don't defame me. but when you read that. i have been threatened by all sorts of people.

never really people i work with or who are in positions of power in the country. it's tortious interference. they are calling you for comment and they are saying don't do your job or i will go after you. howie: i will just say it smells bad. here is the cbs reporter jerika bun can. she was interviewed about that experience. >> this is someone who held an enormous amount of power who i respected and i was shocked. howie: fager said i don't think one text message is a reason to terminate someone after 36 years. do you think this text message controversy was sort of a technicality, a stand-in for the

larger concern about reporting on the culture at "60 minutes." whether fager looked the other way or problems he had in other areas? charlie: i do. david rhodes said jeff is leaving because of his text message. i'm paraphrasing. his departure is not directly related to the allegations in the "new yorker" about sexual misconduct. when you say it like that, you have got to think there is some other stuff there. howie: david rhodes, the cbs president. charlie: yes. i will just say this, howie, i have never been threatened like that and i have written a lot of tough stories and stepped on a lot of toes. have you ever been threatened by someone internally?

howie: i have had people say you better be careful and have people be mad after the fact. but others have gotten fired for taking me on. it was hours after our show last sunday this "new yorker" fees came out. six women, two of them said he forced them to perform oral sex. one said he threw the woman against the wall and there was talk of retaliation and ruined careers. you broke the news last weekend, cbs made a point of saying moonves is out and the $120 million in severrans payments will be withheld. do you think he'll ever see any of that money. charlie: the $120 new is

contingent on the investigation. so i don't have any sources on the committee that's investigating it. i do have sources inside cbs. and people inside cbs doubt he's going to get the full amount. a lot of them doubt he'll get any of it. the reason why, if you read some of the coverage that came out of it, there was some point where apparently this led the board about getting someone a job who was making misstatements about his sexual misconduct. when you mislead the board like that -- howie: that's the problem. there was a statement that said the cbs board initially brushed off statement by the women. an 83-year-old producer. he won an oscar for "pla noon."

he said -- "platoon." he said he didn't care in 30 women come forward. he's our leader. charlie: it's in need of a corporate makeover. it will probably get one. i have been speaking with a lot of people in cbs. les moonves is not going to get' of that money if any. they will have to revamp that board of directors. howie: it was a stunning quote. they will have to big out of this mess and change the culture. new flack for the bob woodward book. google is saying they are not biased and their product is perfectly fair.

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>> most of us are very upset. myself as an immigrant and refugee i find this election deeply offensive. and i know many of you do, too. and i think that's a stressful time. and it conflicts with many of our values. >> fear, i think, not just in the united states, but around the world, is what's fueling concerns, xenophobia, hatred and a desire for answers that may or may not be there. howie: joining us, kat timpf and cathy areu. google leaders are doing this in front of video cameras. cameras are rolling, and they assume everybody agrees with them. and there is even talk of helping employees move to

canada. kat: there was serious talk about helping employees leave the country. i understand you talk to your friend yo -- talk to your frien. i don't understand why it was videotaped when you see the way this videotape has been used in the conservative media saying google is biased and there might be something to the idea that their bias impacts the way they do business. howie: they are entitled not to like the president. but they refer to trump voters as dumb and extreme and have a tendency toward extremism.

cathy: it's interesting that this was put out about a company that doesn't hide the fact that it's liberal. it's an era of buyer beware and reader beware. we need to know who is telling us what. howie: the only problem with that is google is not a website you can believe or not believe. going the put out a statement saying this is a meeting where everyone is free to express their opinions and our products are built for every one. when sergey brin we saw on the video saying that he find his offensive. kat: you know as humans your

biases affect the way you do things. especially when you are this emotional about something. that's why we see a lot of conservatives pick up on this. there was an email fox news obtained that they were trying to turn out the latino vote that breitbart point out it's more evidence that google was trying to help hillary clinton. howie: the president a week or so again said google was rigged against him and the right. i don't believe executives tinker with every search, though they have been accused of pushing some conservative voices down and the algorithms are written by humans. anti-trump views taint the actual product. cathy: the algorithms were written by humans.

this is something that does happen. it's not unusual. but now we have to question algorithms and wonder was the president right on this one. they are coming out. the executives did come out and say they were upset about this election and what could they do to change this trump era. they are human. but at the end of the day, it's a company. howie: they are opinionated humans. last year a conservative engineer was fired. kat, a "new york times" reporter showed us this video a few months ago. kat: that doesn't fit the editorial narrative of the "new york times." it would be google is completely

unbiased and they wouldn't want this to come to light. it does make google look biased. but it provide clear-cut evidence of it in the city. howie: still to come, new criticism about the bob wood * boo -- thebob woodward book. stay with us. while i was in the navy,

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>> the incidents are not anonymous. it gives a date and time and who participates. howie: a number of interviews have tried to get woodward to say the president is kind of crazy. >> any concern about donald trump's mental condition or that he has a deficient personality that can't handle the truth. >> i'm not a psychiatrist and i don't dig into that. >> i worry about the emotionally overwrought part of it. does that mean he's out of control? >> no. howie: some of these anchors are trying to say trump is unhinged. but he wouldn't go there. kat: i am shocked he wouldn't go there, i am not surprised by the question. there was breathless coverage of

wolfe's book. so of course they are seeing this as a bombshell, they are going to try to get the bombshell headline saying the author of this book says he's unhinged. cathy, i think too many people have last their perspective and become unhinged about trump. cathy: woodward is an old school journalist. nixon experienced that firsthand and there have been 7 presidents since. wood washed being from the washington most of. i worked for "the washington post," writers and reports and editors, there are strict guidelines.

he's going to stick to the facts. that's how we were trained and this book puts it out there for the reader. those who support trump won't like it, those who do not like trump will love it. howie: on the "today show," savannah guthrie pressed woodward about the denials. >> john kelly said that never happened, i didn't say it. jim mattis quoted saying the president's understanding is like a 5th or 6th grader. he says he didn't say it. are they lying? >> they are not telling the truth. how there are rob porter the former staff secretary said there are often misleading portraits, but didn't deny any of the sources in the book. kat: books like this in general,

i don't understand the point of them. as cathy said, they just reiterate what people already think. howie: woodward spent many months going behind the scenes. you don't think there is any value in a book like this? >> i understand the point of it, but i don't understand if he thinks it will change any minds here. anybody who thinks that trump is not a great guy looks at this as further evidence trump is not a great guy and the white house is in complete chaos. but people who support him say its anonymous, it's just more left-wing people trying to smear the president. howie: you might be right by the not changing minds, but it generated an enormous amount of media coverage. by attacking -- by attacking

woodward, didn't donald trump give this book a tidal wave of publicity? cathy: to question woo woodwards one of the country's best investigative reporters. i have great sources within the white house and from the last three administration. i can't imagine his sources. i'm a little jealous. i can sure he can pick up the phone and talk to anybody there. howie: he also knocked on people's doors. you can criticize his background reporting techniques. but now that i am reading it. there is so much about what people thought and long scenes and meetings. not always criticizing donald

trump. it shows he spent a long time with confidants and white house officials. that's it for this edition of "mediabuzz." andrew cuomo was running against actress cynthia nixon. he trounced her like 30 points. so why was there so much attention on something that was never going to be a competitive race? i would say one, it's new york, and two, it was "sex and the city." celebbitys always get a lot -- hlot -- -- get a lot of coverag.

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