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unprecedented levels. cape fear is expected to inundate downtown wilmington. hundreds of thousands of people remain without power at this hour. we have live coverage. adam flock is in the extreme weather center. >> good morning. unfortunately we'll be expecting more rain. this has been up a slow mover. even though it's breaking apart. north carolina that rain will continue to be an issue. we have a tornado threat. but those would only be the quick spin-up. the larger threat is going to continue to be this rainfall. an area stretching from portions of eastern south carolina into north carolina, still a possibility of seeing a few spin-up tornado this afternoon. but huge numbers across huge

portions of north carolina. we saw a record breaker as we ran up to 30 ins in one location. so that's preliminary. when you talk about rain getting up to 20 or 30 inches. eventually it has to go somewhere. we are still waiting for rivers to begin to crest. we are expecting to see some major require flooding across the entire 8 up into virginia. all these dots are either moderate or major flooding. it won't peak until monday, tuesday or wednesday. ebb though the river is going to begin to climb, people will be able to get out and get back to their places.

by monday morning you are running up into kentucky and then it will be heading up to the northeast. it become a fast mover after spinning so long. eric: thanks. they will thanks. -- they will s in conway, south carolina. reporter: the scene we see here is one that's being repeated. national guard troops dogging they can to protect property and protect resident. here you are looking at what is called lake busby. they are putting up these sandbags along route 501 because

the fear is that lake busby is going to get higher and higher and higher the next few days and eventually go or 501 if it is not fortified as the national guard is doing right now. each of those single white sandbags. we are grateful to the national guard for the work they are doing. this will be ongoing for days to come. arthel: if that is a man made lake, what do the rivers look like. reporter: we were talking about the live.

we can see from the position we were in yesterday that the river has clearly risen by at least i would say two feet just in the 24 hours from yesterday to today. and we are told it's going to keep rising. it will probably hit what is called moderate flood table sometime tomorrow, then major flood stage around the middle of the week. but there is a little bit of good news about this tuck river. they were predicting it could reach record heights of 18 feet by the end of the week. they are now telling us they think the highest it will reach will be 15.7 feet. it will flood some homes on the banks of the river in conway. but it is looking better than it did this time yesterday in terms of the future for the people of conway. that's a small piece of good news on what are still difficult days across south and north

carolina. arthel: still difficult days but we'll take whatever good news we can find there. eric: florence's rising floodwaters will make it a challenge for first responders to reach survivors. what are they going to do? the flooding are expected to be largely historic, widespread. first responders deployed. and what do they do for us? >> the country learns how to deal with these kinds of disasters on the go. they had experience in houston. miami, and the virgin islands. the problem was in all of those cases not enough department of defense and communications with the volunteers. they have to be able to talk to each other, and they were still

successful in saving lives. in florence all the lessons learned from the others, where you have to have a lot of the department of defense. you are 10,000 on the ground. navy ships off the coast. 10,000 guys filling sand bags and all the equipment and gear the department of defense can do. this is done by prior coordination exercises, city, state, local governments, d.o.d., first responders work together before this in training. so when something like this happens, they know what to do. despite losing lives which is unfortunate. the experiment -- the execution of the battle against florence and this weather has been remarkably successful. arthel: north is having a news

conference. >> the north carolina national guard and with people ar. we were able to get -- with fema. we were able to get into the air and see significant damage in north carolina. the weather prevented us from seeing everything because the storm is still with us. we were automobile to fly or fayetteville and lumberton. we were able to see the cape fear river is well over its banks. there is a lot of farmland under water over the south eastern part of the state. i'm concerned about the impact on crops and farms. we headed over to jacksonville and emerald isle and up the crystal coast. weather prevented us from getting to wilmington, but we were able to fly back to the

neuse river and new bern and saw the devastating impacts there. this treacherous storm officially has claimed 10 lives. we missouri their los -- we mour hearts go out to their families. we are working hard to prevent more deaths. people can help us with that by using safety precautions and common sense. swift water rescues are going on. 100 lives have been saved by first responders. queuing survivors from -- rescuing survivors from floodwaters. we have 150 shelters across the state. mass shelters are open in winston-salem and chapel hill and additional shelters will be

open if necessary. across the state, 700,000 people are without power. we appreciate the utility crews for north carolina and beyond who are here to help restore power. but people need to understand some areas are likely to be without power for a while. i know they are work as hard as they can. eric: the governor highlighted the swift boat rescues. 900 lives have been saved with those rescues. tell us about that. they have to preposition shallow boats that can go in a few inches of water to try to truck in people out of their -- trying to pluck people out of their homes who have been stranded. >> they have to position their teams so they are not fighting in from the same storm. we have people coming in from

alaska and europe. and they are better coordinated than they have been in the past, so they are getting to people quickly. it's a great success. to save 900 lives. it's always terrible to lose anybody on these storms. but this is going to be a couple of weeks at least. the people trying to get back into their who's. these words are impassable. trees, power has to go up. this is not an easy thing. this is a hand of god storm we are fighting, still going to fight to try to get people back in quicker than that is dangerous. it will take time. people are very impatient. but when this type of thing happens. the u.s. government as we are seeing now is doing the best job i have seen in the last year and a half. prior coordination being the key. eric: you see the farmland being

inundated because of the cape fear record. the overall flooding will be historic. and as you say, it will be weeks and weeks and months and months before it gets back to normal. let alone cross loss. >> it's the department of defense and private contractors. fema does a good job. but city and state officials to manage this need to go to fema who will already have a 3-star general on the ground to move the water and move the sand that's everywhere. telephone poles have to go back up. you have got electrical companies from all over the country helping. it's a massive effort coordinated through the response

centers of which fema and d.o.d. are a part. people helping. but the department of defense is a key ingredient to this. they need help, which is why you have this large federal response and we'll see it that way for at least 30 days. we are just look at new bern. look at that. it's just overwhelming. the city looks like a lake with houses in it. we thank you very much. arthel? arthel: as we continue to manner to the impact of florence, we are following other headlines, including democrats calling for a delay in next week's senate judiciary vote on senate nominee judge kavanaugh. this comes add senator dianne feinstein says she received a letter accusing judge kavanaugh

of sexual misconduct from 40 years ago. but senator feinstein is taking heat for the way she handled this. do you think they can move ahead with the nominations this week? >> the senate judiciary committee may vote thursday to move this to the full senate. a last ditch effort by many democrats delayed this for bret calf kne --bret calf now thank - for brett kavanaugh. she dropped a bombshell that an anonymous woman accused kavanaugh of sexual misconduct back in high school. she was taken to the woodshed by the editorial board of her hometown newspaper the

san francisco chronicle. feinstein a california democrat took the worst possible court it was unfair to his accuser and unfair to feinstein's colleagues. they went on to say republicans are rushing this nomination through. and they are saying any vote should be delayed. i think we can expect republicans to push back hard, arguing this is a smear campaign against kavanaugh's character. one senator who sits on the judiciary committee says this has gone too far. >> i have been embarrassed by the whole process, and frankly, i'm no disrespect to senator feinstein or stanford law school. but i'm offended. i sit on the judiciary committee. they had this stuff for three months.

if they were serious by the, they should have told us about it. too moderate republicans, susan collins of main and. lisa murkowski. if they vote yes, he'll likely win nomination. if they oppose him they will have just a tiny republican majority. arthel: we'll be watching all of the goings on in d.c. eric: joe biden is teeing off against president trump. he says he's considering a potential 2020 presidential run. how would he do against president trump? lawmakers reacting to paul manafort striking a stunning

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special counsel. he pled guilty to two charges related to his lobbying work with ukrainian mines. what does this mean going forward? gillian turner is live in washington with that. reporter: president trump's former campaign manager's plea deal has things all fired up. democrats are hoping it's the beginning of the end to the trump administration. >> this send a message to anybody in the cross-hairs of robert mueller's investigation, you better make you're deal now. the longer you wait to come clean, the worse deal you are going to get. the bottom line is manafort knows, will manafort cooperate?

the reality is i think only he can tell us. reporter: republicans are toeing the line. >> all of this is speculation. i can speculate as well as anybody else. but not on this, chris. >> we found no evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and the russians on the judiciary committee. reporter: the million dollar question here in washington is will manafort share new information with mueller or just share information he believes mueller already has. eric: what lessons can we learn from past special counsel investigations. >> the guy who investigated former president clinton thinks so. >> i think the trump white house and the lawyers are taking a page from the clinton playbook. attack the prosecutor. now you have someone close to the president at least for a while, the campaign manager.

so they have to be very careful. reporter: starr like many democrats believes manafort's plea deal is a accep deal is a l event in the probe. >> we are closer to get together truth. it's terrific for the investigation and frankly for the american people. reporter: he enforced a point that the timing of all this is less of a deal for the president and flipping manafort gives mueller's team the upper hand moving forward. arthel: let's bring in former federal and criminal defense attorney, emily canpagno. will manafort tell mr. mueller

what he thinks mr. mueller already knows? or will he provide new information. isn't it on the shoulders of of manafort to tell everything he knows because he doesn't know what mr. mueller knows. >> the plea deal is he cooperate completely on forthrightly on any matter the government deems relevant. but in these plea deals often the government knows a lot more than it tells you it know knows. it's a question i can't answer. it's manafort's knowledge. it's truly novel to mueller's team. there is a credible argument to be made that a lot of his value may be in terms to the russian oligarchs and that lobbying in washington, d.c. there are people the prosecution mentioned by name in the hearing

friday that they think could be additional sources of information. arthel: does the manafort plea agreement provide any further information on whether mr. mueller is pursuing alleged collusion between president trump and russia? >> there is that argument to be made. mr. mueller was at the infamous trump tower meetings. but his potential for that large lobby network in d.c. is quite robust in addition to his participation with the campaign. the prosecution mentioned decade of criminal behavior friday. perhaps what they are leaning toward is perhaps the lobbying effort. this is the culmination of three days of. there is certainly a wide potential. arthel: based on that, what do

you think you can glean based on where we are if anything if this manafort plea agreement will tell us about the probe. and also in terms of the information that manafort provers, who else -- proffers, who else could get stung by the information? >> it could be a microscope into the actual campaign, into that meeting. it could be a broader scope including russian oligarchs and those operating on behalf of ukraine or russia in the united states. and people mentioned by name included tony podesta. he joins a longer list of those who have agreed to cooperate with mueller's team. and it demonstrates with manafort the government hold all the power completely. he never took a plea deal until

now. so the pressure became too great. his family wants to move on and manafort wants to insure their safety. it remains to be seen all the pressure the government brought. this could up reply kate others in d.c. as well as the campaign. it remains to be seen. arthel: let me look at the details of the manafort terms he agreed with mr. mueller. interviews, briefings with special connell. turning or documents. testifying in other proceedings. will any of this lead to president trump? >> it certainly could, absolutely. we have seen both side where some are arguing absolutely not, this is a witch hunt and it will come up to the line, it cannot implicate the president. it would have happened already. representative schiff says this will absolutely be what topples

everything. with that broad scope that could implicate or have up reply cases in terms of the campaign with the president himself. based on what we know thus far it's not there yet, not by a long-shot. arthel: right now this is just information we are discussing. no decisions have been made. quite frankly it's speculation. you don't have insight and neither do i on what mr. manafort has provided mr. mueller. and we don't know what mr. mueller knows. you mentioned earlier mr. mueller offered protection for paul manafort. what form of protection and from whom. as a former u.s. attorney why would such protection be offered. >> the security would be granted that his comfort level would be such that it would insure his truthfulness.

that he feels he can comply fully. all of those detailed allegations so his cooperation essentially has no bound it insures he feels safe doing so and that he is safe doing so. remember the judge commented friday. i have never heard, she said, such a long recitation of offenses in the courtroom. the broader picture is he has insight into such a long amount of crimes argued by the government that the information and value of the for can provide is substantial. he need to feel insured he'll not compromise himself or his family by doing so further. they will will be emily, thank you so much. eric: a witness says it was like a scene out of jaws after a deadly shark attack on a popular

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arthel: former vice president joe biden dropping hints he is considering a 2020 presidential run. speculation about the political ambitions taking on new light after he blasted president trump during a speech last night. rich is live at the white hous with more. reporter: good afternoon, arthel. the former vice president, joe biden , says president trump kelsey exerts power of those that have little or none. the former vice president speaking to human rights

campaign national dinner last evening. he says he wishes he had spoken out against president trump earlier. >> barack obama and i agreed to remain silent for a while to give the administration a chance to get up and running the first year. [laughter] god forgive me. [laughter] but -- i could not remain silent after charlottesville. reporter: has raised his public profile recently in pittsburgh raising novembers midterm elections are a fight for the soul of america.the associate press reports that he is convinced he can defeat the present and the 2020 one election maintaining supporters in key states and given himself until january to decide whether he will join what is expected to be a large field of democrats running to face president trump in the general election. biden considered and eventually

went against running after his son died of cancer. the president has not responded to the specific charges from the former vice president. that he has in the past so that the vice president would be a dream opponent in the general election. arthel: president trump has said that before. speaking of home, was it on his schedule today? reporter: one item, emergency prep briefing at 1:30 pm here at the remnants of hurricane lawrence as it continues to flood parts of the southeast to the present tweeted a short while ago fema first responders and law enforcement are working hard hurricane florence is the biggest finally receipt it will kick into higher gear very professional. also tweeted earlier quote - the illegal mueller witchhunt continues in search of a crime. there was never a collision with russia except by the clinton campaign. so the 17 angry democrats are looking anything they can find. very unfair and bad for the country. also not allowed under the law. this is only couple of days after the present former campaign chairman, paul

manafort, reached a plea deal with robert mueller which he agreed to cooperate with special counsel. back to you. arthel: rich, thank you very much. eric: for more on the biden/ trump slowdown we bring in a correspondent at the "washington post" what you think the former vice president is up to? >> are things very clear that he is trying a couple of different avenues here to get or to test the waters for the democratic support for him as a nominee in 2020. he is trying something that he is known for in the past which is, rallying, working class voters and middle-class voters, something that the vice president has been clear in talking to his friends and supporters. he feels the democrats missed the boat in 2016. there is part of him that has always felt he could have done more in the midwestern states and hillary clinton lost.

then she was able to do. he feels like he was not heard and in the advice that he and others gave to the clinton campaign and national democrats in 2016. you hear him in speeches that he has made, certainly about labor day appearance. then he had a couple of other on the record appearances earlier this week before the one that you play last night. in which he was talking to working class and working age americans saying that he believes a living wage is the answer, the best answer to the current presidency. in the economic claims of the president is making.the other thing he is doing is really trying to get in a few diggs. he's been calling the president demagogue, false patriot, and more. usually a little bit of humor. as you heard there, he said god forgive me for not having

spoken of earlier. but he is trying to get in a few you know, and see how they go. eric: last night they used the word bully. you think that using a campaign two paint the president as that? >> it is one of the things. joe biden has always called himself a fighter. and he appears to be drawing a potential challenge on the idea that he, more than many other potential candidates, could be a fighter that could take on a bully. eric: and meanwhile, some of this seems to be working. there were a lot of polls let's look at july, a political poll. the vice president jordan ahead of the president a match appeared 34 two 37 percent. it is way early but can the vice president biden get ahead

of some of the more elective type candidates? would the democratic party accept him as their nominee? >> joe biden has the same problem this time that he had last time p which is that he's been around a very long time. he is only older now than he was ahead of the 2016 campaign. when, for a variety of reasons, including his age, and gender, he stepped aside. and he now faces a potential group of democratic fellow contenders who are almost uniformly younger than he. some of them are people of color, some are women. and those are certainly big questions for the democrats. are they going to pick the guy that yes, has name id and has potential strength and matchup that they share but he's also the best known and the only

democrat who has frequently been mentioned right now that has that kind of name. eric: finally quickly do think the democrats would forgive him? and forgive president obama. as he said for last night not speaking up soon enough against president trump? >> i think is a big question and i don't know. i think it's one of his big vulnerabilities. you've had a bigger platform than anybody else. for longer and you did not use it. it will certainly be something he is criticized for. eric: he is certainly started to use it now. let's see what happens. anne gearan, "washington post", thank you for your analysis. >> thank you. arthel: has florence floodwaters continue to hit various towns across the carolinas, it is now being blamed for at least 14 deaths. and another major threat lies ahead. what officials are warning at this hour. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? you won't find relief here. go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray relieves 6 symptoms...

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more rain expected in the carolinas, officials now warning the biggest problems will play out over the next few days. they expect extreme storm surge and high wind to hit areas already devastated. a massive floodwaters and downed power lines. north carolina congressman, ted bud joins me now on the phone. thank you for being here i know you're very busy. and if i may, i want to start with you because i know that you and the emergency crews are expected floodwaters to rise substantially overnight as they did. how did you feel seeing it for the first time? >> thank you, arthel for having me. we first want to start with that we have lost 14 lives so far and it is absolutely tragic. we hope that is the end of it. but unfortunately there is a lot more flooding to come. as a tropical depression moves west up to the mountains and the water starts going back.

the rivers, my area goes from greensboro down to the north side of charlie pickering about 750,000 people. we are very concerned that we reached these 500 year flood levels like we saw with hurricane floyd. two years ago with hurricane matthew. down the eastern part of the state. we are grateful for our first responders and we're sending assets down east now but we will need some back here the next few days. arthel: i know that you are well prepared, congressman but did the flooding present more challenges than expected? are you in good shape? you mentioned you need more help. what do you need? >> well, we started before this came when it was still offshore and it had not made landfall. fema headquarters in washington d.c.. now we are back in north carolina. my colleagues to the east are feeling the brunt of it now.

i'm getting text from family, friends and other congressman in eastern part of the state. they are feeling the brunt right now. five feet of standing water. new bern, wilmington, absolutely devastation. 712,000 people without power right now. that is our priority but in the coming days this will shift to the west. more where i am in the central part of the state. we have to be careful because this is so widespread. we have not seen the peak flooding at. we expect that around noon tomorrow as what is being predicted. the high wind is mostly over but it doesn't take a lot of wind to topple -- arthel: earlier, your governor cooper mentioned that swift water rescues were underway. how detailed are those rescues? for instance, how do you find someone who is stuck in their home, still alive but perhaps too weak to even yell out? >> we have a great system set

up. with 2-1-1, the app, people are calling for help. a lot of the cell towers are still working so we do have battery power, people can call in. they give the address and they have a good mapping system so they can go right to the house. also, people have said they've not made contact with some family yet so they can tell first responders exactly where to go. let's not underestimate, there's lots of government help and also friends helping out. arthel: deftly takes family, it takes volunteers to help and congressman, before i go, i know that you've gotten a lot of support from president trump. not only in your district but of course, the entire state, he is offer support. you have everything that you need from the federal government, if you all? >> president trump, all of our

partners, and looking at the list from fema that the white house sent me with over 100 helicopters, 6 million meals, 4 million liters of water, 30,000 blankets, it is phenomenal. two pre-position this, and with state and local officials. we are still seeing this ongoing and water still coming. there's so much we can go but for planning i think they did an excellent job. arthel: if you can wrapping up give me 30 seconds. what are your biggest concerns moving forward?the next 24 to 48 hours? >> we want to think about those who are in the low-lying areas. we are worried about the elderly, people who are in retirement homes that need to be moved out. people that cannot move on their own. they may not have close family and friends. those are the ones we are concerned about right now. but again, we are doing a great job in the state. it is just the challenge that we've seen before but i think we are doing a great job.

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reeling on high alert after tragic deadly shark attack. the shocking incident happened yesterday afternoon on cape cod. it happens to be the first deadly shark attack in

massachusetts in more than eight decades. bryan llenas joins us with more on this horrible story. >> 26-year-old arthur was boogie boarding saturday afternoon off of cape cod when he was attacked by a shark. he succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced dead at cape cod hospital per the first shark attack death in massachusetts since 1936. witnesses say the 26-year-old was about 30 yards offshore with his friend when all of a sudden, beachgoers saw violent thrashing in the water. a shark fin sticking out. the man was bitten and he bled down to the bone, dozens rushed to get him out of the water, they tried to stop the bleeding. but it was too late. >> the man was breeding from his legs. their lives depended on it and they jumped in and did everything. there is nothing more people could possibly have done in such a dire situation. >> the attack happened off of

the beach in massachusetts, the beach is now closed until further notice. this is the second attack in as many months off of cape cod. a 61-year-old man is now covering after great white shark attack in august. >> officials say that he was wearing a black wetsuit and there were sales in the area but sadly a shark may have mistaken him for a seal. just horrible. thank you. arthel: thank you. that will do it for us. we will be back in two hours at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. eric: will continue coverage of florence as well as all of the days developments and news from washington. have a great sunday afternoon. arthel: stick around for mike emanuel and molly line after this quick break. some debt you plan for, some just...

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