that's our story on this tuesday night. what do you think about that? tucker carlson is warming up and getting ready for his big show which is coming up just about six seconds away. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." all of washington is girding for next monday, six days from now when palo alto psychology professor christine ford has been invited to testify on capitol hill about the assault that she says she's suffered at the hands of supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh sometime around 1982. both republicans and democrats say they want ford to testify on the hill but no one has explained exactly what the rest of us could possibly learn from that. ford says she has already recounted everything she can remember about the details at this point are thin including when and where that assault

allegedly took place. brett kavanaugh for his part has denied that any of it ever happened, and so has as high school friend of mark judge who poured claims was there that night. so that is the sum total of what we know and it's still a matter of she said, they said. so without a lot more evidence it's hard for anyone to prove anything. but that has not stopped leading democrats from reaching a firm conclusion in this case. how do they know for sure what happened 36 years ago? because brett kavanaugh is a man and therefore he is guilty. it's the y chromosome. watch as a hawaii and noted geneticist maisie romo describes it. >> they need to be heard but they need to be believed. guess who is perpetuating all of these actions? it's the men in this country. and i want to say to the men in this country, just shut up and step up, do the right thing for a change. >> tucker: did you catch that,

it's not just brett kavanaugh who is guilty, it's "the men" of this country. every single one of them because they are men. christine ford meanwhile is telling the truth because she is a woman. she is female, you must believe her. that's a command from the united states senator and it's not optional but mandatory. so repeat after maisie. men always lie, women never do. one is evil and the other is holy. that's the catechism of the church of late stage feminism. does anyone actually believe this nonsense? of course not. it's ridiculous, divisive and crazy. virtue is not restricted to a single gender or for that matter a single race. for a time it seemed like we had moved past ideas like those, they are corrosive. but now they are back in force and because the left has already decided conclusively what happened in 1982, further evidence is irrelevant. as democrats explained today,

there is nothing brett kavanaugh could do to prove his innocence. senator tim came of virginia cd that's very hypothetical. while it's not very hypothetical to brett kavanaugh and his wife and their daughters. imagine you are accused of a sex crime and informed by a lawmaker that there really was really no way you could beat the charge, no matter what evidence you presented. how would you respond to that? you probably wonder what country you are living in. definitely not america. these are the democratic party's' new standards and it goes without saying that they are highly subjective and not applied to everyone. it depends entirely on how useful you are. senator ted kennedy drove his oldsmobile off of a bridge with a young woman inside. he fled the scene and left her but never sum it helped. he didn't want the dui arrest.

the young woman that he abandoned slowly asphyxiated over a number of hours. ten years after doing that, he ran for democrat and he died a hero. you are watching something similar unfold with the deputy chair of the national committee, keith ellison. last month he was credibly abused of physically abusing an ex-girlfriend, karen monahan. apparently she never heard about it because nobody in the party seems to believe monahan despite the fact that she is a woman. as she put it "i have been smeared, threatened and isolated for my own party all for the sake of the allegation she made for daring to speak in public. we asked the dnc today about the ellison case and they did not have much of a response." we take allegations of sexual abuse seriously and we are working with the state party to review the allegations. right, we are confident it will be a thorough investigation.

on the other hand, why would it be? none of us ought to be in the investigations business in the first place. political parties, college administrators, rappers, all of us. we are not people we want determining anybody's guilt or innocence. we have a legal mechanism for doing that. it's not flawless but for almost 250 years our justice system has function pretty well. it's pretty straightforward. if you believe a crime has been committed against you, you report it. that would include theft, embezzlement and sexual assault. go to police. it's not easy but it's still your obligation as a citizen, if not at least to protect the rest of us from whomever you believe did it. the police investigate and a judge or jury rendered a verdict. that's due process. it's the cornerstone of our system and one of the main reason people moved to this country from other places, because it works. it's more fair they are then by

cmm. cnn cnn. thanks robin for coming on tonight. i want to hit you with some fairly recent news off of capitol hill. dianne feinstein, senator from california who was the person to whom we owe this story and is the one who brought it to public attention. she said today, and i'm quoting, i can't say everything is truthful about what christine ford has said. i can't say everything is truthful. how do you respond to that? >> we know back in august she took a polygraph test and determined what she said was truthful according to that test. now those are subjective and are not admissible in court for example but, there is that. >> tucker: you don't understand, i'm not doubting that she's saying what she believes. i'm quoting dianne feinstein, the person who brought us the

story saying, i can't say everything is truthful. in other words, she may be lying. this is the person who brought us the story, who suspended the nomination process because of the story, now saying she could be lying. i don't know what to make of that. >> what i make of that is she wants us to be investigated. they are calling for the fbi to investigate it and president trump said today he does not want the fbi to investigate that, that brett kavanaugh has been through enough already and that is just his personal opinion. but i think the american people deserve to know exactly the character of who the next nominee is for the supreme cour supreme court. >> tucker: i'm sorry to pause, i'm getting news in my ear that is breaking right now that and she's saying now it will not be until the fbi completes the

investigation. it's hard to even process that is, how could you investigate an event that he apparently took place between three people, 36 years ago. one of whom says does but his money on details. how could the fbi possibly investigate something like that? >> there was an eyewitness in the room who says he will not testify before congress, mr. ford. but we have to see how all this plays out. >> tucker: but how could it play out? we don't know the accuser. and by the way, it seems like it seems like she believes what she saying, to me. she seemed sincere. but she doesn't know the address of the house that it took place. >> she has therapy notes, documentation that she went

through trauma. >> tucker: okay but i don't know that, she saying she spoke to a therapist six years ago about it but that contradicts what she's saying now. this isn't really about getting to the bottom of the story, it's about delaying a supreme court nomination. >> i hope not, tucker. as a democratic strategist, i honestly believe, and i think it's in the best interest for the democratic party to fill that and say, we can't afford to have an open seat heading to midterms because it will drive out evangelical voters who may not like some of the things that donald trump himself has been accused of. >> let me ask you really quickl quickly. and i should have prefaced this whole conversation with this. so you are a liar by definition, men always lie and do you by

that? or is that insane? >> i don't prescribe to that. that doesn't even pass the common sense test, tucker. let's be honest. >> tucker: how can i know? this is just my honest common sense opinion here that there are victims of both genders when it comes to domestic violence and sexual assault. >> tucker: thanks very much for coming on. all of a sudden, all kinds of allocations for misconduct from long ago. and then ad that targets the current holder of the ohio senate seat, there were allegations of abuse made by his ex-wife. trace gallagher has been following this story. >> by all accounts, sherrod brown's 1986 divorce was our

don't like ugly including allegations that he was physically abusive. this isn't the first time these accusations have been dredged up by brown's political opponents, but it is the first time it has been raised in the age of me to. the website running the 62nd ad is called me to ohio. >> later she said brown violated the court order, pushing, shoving and violating her. >> it's a super pac but also: connected to a g.o.p. political firm that has done significant work for jim renee see, sherrod brown's opponent for senate. that appeared to amplify it quoting here, violence against women in any form is not acceptable. sherrod brown's well-documented history of domestic violence is deeply troubling. in turn, senator brown's office

released a statement from brown's ex-wife saying "disparaging my family for political gain is disgusting and congressman renee see should know better. she says her previous accusations were because of hurt and sorrow on both sides. >> tucker: trace gallagher, thank you. so that's ohio. we are in washington right now, i've been here all my life and i can say have never seen this city crazier or more paranoid or more intense or more dominant. here's an example. three years ago, brett kavanaugh made a joke about his time in high school. >> unfortunately we had a good thing that we have held firm to this day as the dean was reminding me before the talk, which is what happened at georgetown prep stays at georgetown prep. that's been a good thing for all of us, i think. >> tucker: so he's obviously admitting a felony sex crime there. no. it was a joke and clearly irrelevant to what we were

talking about today but don't tell them that we are literal humorless mines of the senate. elizabeth warren said this. i can't imagine any parent accepting these views. if you can imagine texting something like that or putting it on twitter, mindless. and coulter is a writer, as if she needed another example of it, and she joins us tonight. so what do you make of the fact, i was trying to get this straight answer from my last guest. what do you make of the fact that dianne feinstein is saying, i'm not sure i believe christine ford now? >> dianne feinstein has always been one of my favorite senators, republican or democrat. i was surprise she held onto this letter. i don't think the big issue is the 11th hour, i think the issue is last week we started getting polls showing the democrats started getting a shot of the senate. they really want to get a shot

at this nomination. we need a major fbi investigation. as you pointed out, there's nothing to investigate. they want to appoint a blue ribbon commission and maybe they will wrap up their work sometime next february. it's purely for delay. >> tucker: so can i ask you, why not an independent counsel? i am giving everybody every benefit of every doubt. i'm not attacking ford who again, i said he was a nice person. this is a political tactic designed to prevent the president from putting his nominee on the court. why are the republicans in congress playing along with this? >> i think some of them, and this is the only thing that i think makes it dangerous for republicans and for kavanaugh and for the republic because there are certain republicans in the senate who so hate trump that they would put their egos above the good of the country, and what so many republican said

about voting every four years, they would have to do it for the supreme court nominee is. maybe for ben sasse. maybe not for senator bob corker. they just so hate trump, that could end up hurting cavanaugh . then you have cnn running the country. it's a meteor running the country because this allegation could be against anyone at any time, obviously nondespicable. "the new york times" -- i wanted to mention since he was cited, teddy kennedy, in "the new york times" editorial, things were totally different in the 1980s.

the proof of this that people aren't taken seriously in the 1980s was to link to an article in "the washington post" citing "the new york times" treatment of the accuser of william kennedy smith. so yes, the kennedys have always had free reign to rate and murder and, "the new york times" would go after the accusers. but this isn't a new thing. as long as you are a presumed white male republican, whether it's the duke lacrosse case or that dastardly haven monahan and the rolling stones story, then the whole thing turned out to be a fake. for now, a lot of the statements about brett kavanaugh, like oh he's smirking. and a lot on twitter and elsewhere. he is a white male and white privilege, and it's not just democrats and the media running the country, if any white male

can be accused with an evidence reaction. >> tucker: will you shouldn't judge people on the basis of their characteristics. thank you, it's great to see you tonight. so the president is pushing for more transparency on the russian investigation so naturally the left is now denouncing transparency and demanding that your government keep more things secret from you. that's next. ♪ will it feel like the wheend of a journey?p working, or the beginning of something even better? when you prepare for retirement with pacific life, you can create a lifelong income... so you have the freedom to keep doing whatever is most meaningful to you. a reliable income that lets you retire, without retiring from life.

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the democrats know it's a witch hunt to but they don't want to admit it. the things that have been found over the last couple of weeks about text messages back and forth are a disgrace to our nation. we should open it up for people to see. >> tucker: so if obama had said that or george w. bush for that matter, pretty much everyone would nod in agreement. sunlight is the disinfectant that we all want to. but the new organizing principle of the left is that everything trump does is bad so the press is now racing to condemn transparency as a threat to the public. >> this president shatters so many norms that it's hard for people to understand when he does something that's truly damaging. this is one of those times. >> the president is classifying the material. any commander and chief who did care would listen to all of his intel agents. >> can anyone stop president trump from doing this? he is arbitrarily releasing part

of a fisa warrant. you can't say it's politically motivated because it doesn't make sense. >> i never thought i would live to see that. then from john brennan, that went even further. he said democracy is actually defined by the fbi agents refusing to obey the elected president from which they work. >> if mr. trump in the white house does not relent than they have some decisions to make. they are not going to follow those directions and be fired. but, if they believe it will have serious impact, then they have the obligation since they took an oath of office to the constitution of the united states, not to mr. trump, to uphold their responsibilities and their agency and department authorities. >> tucker: those of us who left to the deep state

considering, john joins us tonight. thanks for coming. the only real argument i think against this is, details will be released if that will jeopardize intelligence gathering in the lives of who gathered it. if this information is released, and it looks like it will be, nothing is unredacted. will they do the right thing and resign from their jobs? i'm just a political hack carrying water for the democratic party. >> for all the talk about transparency, that's not what we're seeing here. we have the president who is chair cherry picking information. this is the president getting involved in this investigation and basically trying to change the new cycle. i don't think it's a coincidence that the next business day after his former campaign sherrick pleads guilty, all of a sudden he's out there -- but if he was truly wanting transparency then we would be seeing more than

just these cherry picked documents he wants to get out there. >> tucker: one, white houses have always done that. but i don't understand why i as a citizen, not a click cable news, that's a big deal. why shouldn't i know that? >> what we are talking about here is a releasing the declassification of documents that contain sensitive information about not only individuals but also about the tactics that are used by going after spies and terrorists. so you have a president who is worried about saving his own rear end and the way he wants to do that. >> tucker: i'm not talking about the president, i'm talking about me and the other 325 people 325 million people that live here.

>> there was no surveillance of the trump campaign. carter page had already left the campaign -- >> tucker: that was the whole pretext. >> but he left the campaign by the time the surveillance started in the surveillance was directly related to him, not the campaign. >> tucker: they were spying on people he was in contact with including the campaign. why shouldn't the rest of us to be reassured that they had good reason to do that? or the doj or government? >> because when you talk about releasing selected documents, tara atomic cherry picking documents that you might see, >> the phis application is the totality. it's what went to the judges in order to get permission to spy on americans. what would they be leaving out? >> it went to four different

applications. >> i just want to know why my government is spying on americans and why the left isn't mad about it. >> we are talking about a guy who had been courted by the russians as early as 2016. >> tucker: what are you afraid of? >> my biggest concern is, the changing of the precedent, he's actually putting our country at risk. he is lifting up the curtain for terrorists and spies to see how we actually go after them. >> we will see. and a fisa's chair is stand iced corrected. >> carter page joins us later in the summer to respond. we will ask him what he thinks. and another fbi official is writing a political memoir right after leaving the fbi. the second guy at the top of the fbi in a row to do that. why do we have faith in the fbi,

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is is this something that the fbi has jurisdiction over and could they conceivably come up with this? >> if this is another delaying tactic and she really doesn't want to testify because when she does she's going to look like the loon that she is. she may worry very well believe everything she's saying and that's one of the signs of lunacy come up believing something that isn't real. but her lawyer is even loony year. the fbi is not going to investigate on nonfederal matter of an alleged assault which is unconfirmed by even the witness herself. she's not sure where it happened, when it happened, who else was present. she never reported it to anybody. this was nothing. >> i had no idea of her mental state at all. does having listened to her accounts, she seemed sincere. but i wonder if the fbi could, knowing what has been publicly

revealed, how could they possibly -- as a practical matter, how could they possibly follow up on that? >> they cannot because they don't know when it happened, where it happened or who else was there. there is no useful evidence to be served by interviewing him. there is nothing to investigate. >> why did republicans go along with something like that? >> you know i have no idea why republicans are doing what they are doing. she has now denied them a chance for a hearing. >> so if you were advising republicans in the senate, what would your advice be right now? >> have a vote on thursday like you said you would. >> do you think they would? >> oh, god no. kevin i will be confirmed and now because this is clearly a desire to delay the proceedings even further. the fbi will not investigate this and they have said they

will not. >> that make sense to me completely. joe digenova, thank you for that. >> you bet. >> tucker: google tells you a lot about how they resist trump because they are against authoritarian leaders, but weirdly they have aligned themselves with china's fascist dictatorship. how does that work? we have details. also carter page at the center of the declassification fight right now, joins us tonight. ♪ the new capital one savor card. earn 4% cash back on dining and 4% on entertainment. now when you go out, you cash in. what's in your wallet?

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leading people in washington. congress supported efforts by what appears to be a chinese government funded group. the china u.s. exchange foundation led by a top communist official recruited students on a trip to china where they would have been propagandized. these members of congress, sheila jackson lee, jim clyburn, gk butterfield and barbara lee. that's the single best book on the chinese question called the hundred gram marathon. dr. pillsbury, should members of congress be lending their name and reputation do this kind of effort? >> know they should not. frankly they have funds, to visit china wherever they want. and if the number of congress supports this kind of informal

activity and takes funds to do that, to pay for the travel and let the chinese make the arrangements, they miss out on getting the truth about china form our own government. i think it's a mistake to do this. >> tucker: it is a mistake and it's unfortunately kind of comment. google is in the middle of what seems to be a real controversy over the search engine that has been secretly developing on behalf of the government of china. the intercept report is that they built a prototype that would link users of the search engine to their own cell phone numbers which would allow the chinese government to identify people based on what they search for. we contacted google and they declined any comment about that. what is your view? >> i think google is highly embarrassed. they hold themselves out as an organization of 88,000 employees who believe deeply in human rights and causes, but now they are simply caught by this one scientists who has resigned in protest and told a lot about the

project. it apparently went by the name, operation dragonfly which was known to a small team, fewer than 100 people inside google. apparently the previous ceo, sergei brin took a stand on this in 2010 and wouldn't let it happen, wouldn't let the censorship in china happen. and now fast forward eight years and google has reversed itself, but done so secretly and that seems to be the problem. i think they didn't show up at a senate hearing that they were invited to, inviting growing problem for google. >> tucker: but since the rest of us are so wholly dependent, how should we feel about the company helping the authoritarian government of our arrival keeping the subjects under its thumb? >> i think the congress needs to invite them back and make sure that they come.

obviously a subpoena power was required. the trick here is the technology of doing this being able to track somebody searches for awards like human rights are dictatorship back to their phone number, and then share that with the chinese authorities, the chinese themselves can't do that. they had to turn to google to do this. google apparently, according to the gentleman, the hero i think who quit in protest, that will make up for ten lost years of revenue and sales that they haven't had in china because the previous founder sergey brin refused to do this. >> they certainly have a lot of money, it might just be decent. >> it's terrifying. >> thank you very much as alway always. >> tucker: what does washington's top news veteran think of this week's political chaos? brit hume joins us next to talk

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the one this is a fox news alert. not long ago within the hour, christine ford said she will not testify in front of congress unless the fbi investigates her claims against brett kavanaugh. just minutes ago the show spoke exclusively with a high level u.s. official who said the fbi will not do that, it will not investigate, because what she is alleging is not a federal crime. the fbi will only investigate if the white house demands it. fox political analyst, the senior political analyst brit hume joins us tonight. what do you make of this? >> it's pretty transparent and it all points in one direction. delay, delay, delay. we know based on what we've been

told at least that christine ford wasn't reluctant to come forward and was induced somehow to do so. chuck schumer was saying the other day, she should be able to get on her timetable but it looks like the democrats minutes to accelerate the timetable, perhaps not in her best interest. this is a sensitive matter with her and it has caused her as far as we know some pain and difficulty. it has the appearance that she has been pushed and now she may be pushing back. or she doesn't want to testify understandably. she never apparently did want to testify. and now of course they are finding a way to use that to say, we need an fbi investigation because the whole idea of this is to postpone the vote as long as possible. obviously i think the democrats had some hope that perhaps what they thought these explosive allegations would sink the nomination but that clearly isn't going to happen at least at this stage.

the second best thing to happen would be too solid as long as possible and that is unmistakably in my judgment what this is all about. statement the vote was scheduled for thursday. but we are waiting for her to testify monday. now, she is saying we need to delay until the fbi investigates so she's not delaying at the fbi is not investigating, or the vote be thursday? >> the committee will want to bend over backwards to make it clear that they really want to hear from her. the story must be told and i suspect they will keep that date open a couple more days. what's happening here, we are living in an atmosphere in which a woman comes forward and makes an allegation, the burden of proof is on the defendant of the accused. and that is -- if nobody is saying that exactly out right but that's a subtext of all these comments. richard blumenthal for example is saying that he can't identify certain circumstances under

which -- and others identify circumstances under which the nominee can clear his name. you heard tim kaine say, that's a big hypothetical. as if his innocence is a hypothetical. that is where we are. but the political power, the me too movement israel and republicans are all bending over backwards to see and have her story told. >> tucker: we have not attacked her, and ice sincerely feel sorry for her. there is a process to fill a vacancy on the supreme court and, why should this story delay it if she's not willing to come to washington and testify? i don't understand why this can't go forward. >> i think what you hear from senator lindsey graham and others, is that they are prepared to go forward. they just have to leave this door open for a little while, is

what looks like to me. and, this is a tiny handful of senators. susan collins, lisa murkowski, jeff flake who is on the committee and could by his single no vote keep the nomination coming out, and, this hearing date is one manifestation of that. >> jeff flake has a lot of power tonight. >> but for the moment he's got some say. >> tucker: brit hume, thank you very much. and he joins us next on that.

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so how would you like to meet carter page, the former truck campaign advisor was spied on by the obama administration. at people in the media, a lot of them have repeatedly suggested he is a russian spy and they were egged on in that by politically motivated leaks from the economic government and doj. despite all that, he's never been charged with a single crime and there is no indication he ever will be. thanks to the declassification that we've been telling about, we will finally get to see why he was spied on. can't imagine the money you've spent and your reputation has been sullied to put it mildly. >> things could have turned out so much worse. if president trump had listened to this fake intel report from comey, klapper and brennan in

2017, imagine the wars i could have led to. >> tucker: a while sure. what do you expect to learn from these declassified documents? >> i think it will be a complete laughingstock. every premise, anything that i was ever asked by members of congress, the fti, various government institutions, it was all just preposterous from the very beginning. >> they accuse to you -- you graduated from a military, people accusing you of betraying your country, how does that feel? >> again. thankfully we have president trump's leadership working through in terms of -- you know, the impact it's had on him and his administration, this is a minuscule problem that i have had to deal with.

>> you either have a deep religious faith or you are on xanax or something that the evenness of your temperament is amazing to me. there's one question in 30 seconds that you want answered in these documents, what would it be? >> who is responsible for all this? there's obviously a lot of people that have some culpability, but let's see who did what to whom. >> tucker: i can't wait to find that out. if i had a dollar for everyone's that has set on this set, -- i don't even know you. outside the studio, we've never even met. carter page, godspeed. that's about it for us tonight, tune in every night including tomorrow, the next night and the night after that to the show that is the sworn enemy, and we mean it, of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink, all of which are overwhelming this country and especially the city

and in our small but persistent way, we are fighting back. i hope you join us as we do that. good night from washington. guess who is next? live from new york city, sean hannity. >> sean: the swap is tuckers and the sewer is tuckers, and i pay all the taxes. great show as always. we have so much breaking news tonight. a presumption of innocence it is the very foundation of america's justice system and at the very core of our constitutional republic. sadly tonight there are some people in this country ready to throw what is the single most important principle to the wind, all in an effort to delay, disrupt the confirmation of judge kavanaugh. i have long emphasized that kavanaugh and his accuser should testify under oath. sadly, that's just not good enough for some people.