possibly a little bit of a bright moment here. >> this trip is very important to the people of north and south carolina. we are going to run for now. see you again tomorrow. outnumbered starts in about three seconds. bye-bye. >> harris: phil and sandra thank you so much for the handoff. we are going to stay with these live pictures of the president of the united states on the ground with the team there. some members, cabinet. some members of fema. this is a huge on hand look at what's happened after the hurricane florence. and so with the president there, this is his second stop. we are only showing you and mentioning these stops as they happen in realtime. this is north carolina. this is new bern, north carolina. and a long stretch of highway 70 between kinston and new bern where communities are all but cut off. people can't come in and out easily. and they are in line for sustenance products.

water, food, the basics. you see the president there. and i can lower my voice if my team can tell me we might be able to hear him. he is in line as these cars pull up giving out plates of food in styer row foam containers and give a helping hand. let me lower my voice to see if we can hear anything. >> he said here you go. >> harris: imagine what it's like. you have been through this. rivers are about to crest. it's stopped raining. the trouble looms now. it lurks in the distance rivers crest creating a worse flooding situation for many people. a flooding situation. mandatory evacuations came after florence had really started to move away in the outer bands of that rain were hitting these areas. just to let you know how big that beast was. and so now we are seeing the aftermath with the president going in and visiting a total of five stops. this is the second for

today. the hurricane damage he will tour next. we are told he is going to walk through a neighborhood in new bern, north carolina. the church that's hosting is temple baptist church here. and now you see them start to take that walk as people pick up their meals and supplies. the president will see what it will take to pick up their lives. and a reminder that new bern is quite a distance from cherry point. the marine air station. so, they are getting help from all over. second stop for the president. i want to bring in our guest on set today charlie hurt is here. as you look at this part of the president's responsibility, it's something that presidents do so well, all of them. it's that personal touch that people want to huddle together and see the man who from a distance has promised and now has kept his promise to help. >> i think this president in particular really likes this kind of thing.

he often sort of operates from a political standpoint as sort of america -- kind of like a mayor. and he wants to be down there and, you know, helping the people that have been hit by the storm but also, he loves to pose with law enforcement wherever he goes. he loves that kind of hands on stuff. but i loved a minute ago on that footage where he was handing out -- people in the cars. did you hear one of them said the woman was accepting the food and she looked at him. she has just been through a hurricane. she just survived a hurricane. whawhat does she say to him, she says mr. president, we are praying for you. she is praying for him. and but that's the kind of people there are down in that part of the country. hairs they are all over america. i believe that. >> a lot of time in these situations people will pop up and criticize the president for coming in here because they will say you are taking up resources. the truth is, i think, for

people on the ground and what we just heard from them is it lifts their spirit. and also we know in television when you bring attention, you bring resources and help. >> harris: i was just going to say that yes it does you have to protect them with resources it attracts so much and gets the people engaged. listen to that as they cheemplet juscheer.just imaginet livelihoods 15,000 people still in shelters at this hour. i talk about farming community livelihoods. millions of paltry birds. 5500 hogs. their financial, their economy impacted by this. saw secretary of the small business administration there mcmahon talk about the loans they will make to businesses to start to rebuild. we are following the president today on the ground where america has watched the disaster unfold along the carolina coast, the ms. section of the east coast. we will continue to follow him. he has five stops.

this is the second of the five. and as it rolls out we can show it to you. stay close to fox news for this. ♪ >> melissa: new developments in the show down over supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. an attorney for the woman accusing kavanaugh of sexual assault more than three decades ago is now imposing new conditions on her client's testimony. kavanaugh's confirmation was thrown into question after university professor from california, this is christine blasey ford told "the washington post" that kavanaugh sexually assaulted her during a party during the 1980s when they were both high school students. kavanaugh has strongly denied these allegations. lawmakers have called on ford to tell her story during a hearing set for monday. but, ford's attorney telling cnn last night that her client wants an fbi investigation before she is willing to testify. watch. >> any talk of a hearing on

monday, frankly, is premature because she just came forward with these allegations 48 hours ago. and since that time she has been dealing with hate mail, harassment, death threats. so she has been spending her time trying to figure out how to put her life back together. if the senators who have come forward and said they want to treat this seriously mean that, then they will have an investigation of these allegations so that we all go into this more informed. >> melissa: but senate judiciary chair chuck grassley effectively saying his committee has bent over backwards to accommodate a hearing. ford would be comfortable with republican mike rounds expanding on this. more on in this morning. take a listen. >> i know that the chairman has offered to do this in private. he has offered to do it in public, if that's their choice. i know that senator collins had suggested that rather than having members of the committee actually ask the questions to actually have outside counsel hired separately to come in and to ask specific questions of

both, trying to find a way to make this as bipartisan as possible, even if our colleagues on the other side of the aisle haven't seen fit to take that approach. >> melissa: in the meantime senate democrats yesterday also calling to delay the kavanaugh vote and they slammed republicans for their handling of the sexual assault allegation. watch. >> scheduling a hearing for monday, a week from when dr. ford made her accusations public, is a shameful attempt to jam this through. >> the simple fact here is that so far the republican leadership has completely disrespected this survivor. >> what republicans are doing to her today is exactly why so many survivors do not come forward. >> melissa: president trump this morning before heading to north carolina saying he stands behind kavanaugh. watch. >> i really want to see her.

i would really want to hear what she has to say. i think he is an extraordinary man. is he a man of great intellect as i have been telling you. he has an unblemished record. >> melissa: peter doocy is live now on capitol hill with the latest. peter? >> melissa, we just caught up with senator chuck grassley. he is the point person for a hearing because he is the chairman of the judiciary committee. and he told us that kavanaugh's accuser dr. ford pleaded through "the washington post" to come and testify. so now he is doing whatever he can to get her here on monday. >> where i'm focused right now is doing everything that we can to make dr. ford comfortable with coming before a committee either in an open session or a closed session or a public or a private interviews. that's four different ways she can choose to come. and so i'm not worried about anything other than just focusing for the next few

days on encouraging her to come. >> the lawyer for kavanaugh's accuser says she wants to wait until the fbi investigates her allegations of sexual misconduct before agreeing to come to the hill. law enforcement sources are saying that's not going to happen. because there are no allegations of federal crimes and a federal law enforcement official tells fox it's totally inappropriate for someone to demand we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 35-year-old allegation when she won't go under oath and can't remember key details including when or where it happened. so now democrats are starting to say maybe monday just isn't convenient for the accuser. >> we need to plan this around her schedule, you know, listen, when we have any other hearing on any other committee i have been involved with, i mean, and i'm talking about even when we subpoena people to testify before a committee, we work out the schedule. and from everything i can

tell, they arbitrarily made a decision that it would be monday. >> but republicans say the one week notice they gave dr. ford about the hearing was plenty and if she does not show up, they are prepared to move forward with a vote to confirm. melissa? >> melissa: peter doocy, thank you so much for that i will go out to the rest of our couch here. kennedy, let's not forget it was her lawyer who was the first one who said this woman is willing to come and testify on capitol hill. it was their idea. >> it was their idea. and they are changing the criteria, which just, you know, sort of speaks to the fact that this whole thing is so politicized. and if you are on one side, if you are on the democrat side, you are more likely to believe dr. ford. and, you know, want to prolong the process as long as possible conveniently until after the mid terms. and if you are a republican, you tend to see judge kavanaugh in a very sympathetic light and you tend to think that any

accusation from decades ago could completely unravel someone's life. and that essentially isn't fair. and i think what both sides have to do is try and get to the truth in expedient manner. you can't necessarily delay this for political gain because that will ultimately hurt democrats. >> melissa: maria, is it fair to come forward with this type of accusation and not follow through? >> >> maria: i think she is trying to find a way to follow through the death athletics the fact that she has it h. to leave her home and hire private security. that's not okay. that's not acceptable. no one should be threatening this woman. i hope they find a way for her to testify and kavanaugh to testify. whether that's open session or closed session whether that's next monday or wednesday or friday. the fbi should look again at their background clearance for him given there is new information and see if this changes their judgment it may not. >> melissa: is it new information though? because they had this and

they will turned it over. >> maria: they never considered this as part of a background. it may not change anything. to say check every box and do due diligence. >> melissa: with respect they did. they did have it as a part of the background check. >> maria: they did not. they passed it back to the white house. they never investigated they passioned it back to the white house and said figure out what to do with it nothing may come from that due diligence i hope we can hear from her. i don't think monday needs to be the perfect day we circle and if she doesn't do it then she is lying. >> harris: do you think it should be all around her schedule? >> maria: i think she has a right to find a day that works for her. >> harris: available. when you hear kamala harris and other elected officials say well this has really got to be all about her. i think it's about two people at this point until we find out more witnesses. >> maria: sure. i don't think her schedule should be discounted. >> kennedy: i think that changes everything. if you have a witness on one side or the other that can in some way corroborate it,

then it changes the entire landscape. >> harris: that's actually worth waiting for. >> kennedy: we are at enpass. >> harris: real quickly, i just want to get your thought on, this charlie. this is not to cast any doubt or shadow on the alleged's victim's story. i think it's a fair question this is the highest court not the only court. this man has been a federal judge. he has been vetted. he has had several background checks. it does feel like 11th hour type math in all of this because his current job is important, too so why not come forth when he was named a federal judge? that's a question i would want to ask hermond, wednesday, friday whenever she sits down. chacharliein a sane vein a quesi have the first time she ever verbalized this account and named him was after his name

had been floated as a short list for the supreme court. to me, that's a very alar alarming admission on her part that the only corroborating, the only people that she has corroborated the story with are people that heard it after she was concerned he would be a supreme court. >> harris: actually the therapist' notes don't have the name her husband does. >> maria: from 2012. >> harris: from 2012 but publicly, yes. >> at that time the reasonable why she verbalized his name is because she heard he was on the short list to be on the supreme court. >> maria: not in 2012 when obama was president. >> no. it was -- i mean. >> kennedy: there are still conservative list and liberal lists for consideration supreme court regardless who is in the white house. >> whole thing is very disturbing. the reason so important about the fact that she has said when or where this happened, it completely, you

know, it undermines kavanaugh's ability to look at a date look at a time and look at a place and say no, i was somewhere else at that time. >> harris: do you think that's why you need an fbi investigation or some kind of an investigation? >> no, i don't think there is a judge in america. i don't think there is a prosecutor in america who would bring charges like this against somebody if you didn't have those key details. >> harris: in this specific case, the statute of limitations have one out anyway. >> of course, will is a reason for that. >> kennedy: that's another reason why fbi cannot investigate. because a private citizen know what is they know what the threshold is for law enforcement. >> melissa: the top democrat on the senate judiciary, dianne feinstein, under increasing scrutiny. republicans and some democrats with big questions about when she knew of the allegations and when and why she chose to share them. plus, the president saying his order to immediately declassify a trove of

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>> melissa: president trump right now is touring hurricane damage in the carolinas. he is on his way right now to his next stop. he's going to be looking at a neighborhood that was impacted by the rain and the flooding and the devastation. this is video from just a few minutes ago in new bern, where he was handing out meals, as you can see people pulling up any time he gets a styrofoam tray together and hands it off to the drivers there in new bern, north carolina, he was at a baptist church there, trying to lift some spirits and hand out some food for folks that have been devastated by this storm. the next stop is going to be in another neighborhood. he's on his way there. and when he gets there, we will bring you that video. >> harris: okay. so now, apparently, the video changes as soon as we can show that you live we will. >> melissa: we are hearing is he there we will go back in a second when he is there. go ahead. >> harris: that was my first television market washington

new bern greenville. i mentioned earlier about the small business administrative representatives being on the ground. the livelihoods of people from tobacco to hogs to poultry, being devastated it's unimaginable how that changes life. because it isn't just that they are feeling the pain urgently of having to be in shelters and fema will be there on the ground. some of those people as we learned from hurricane sandy could be there for a year or two in a shelter while they rebuild some of these low lying areas. it has to do with the restoration like how do you replace 3.4 million birds? it has to do with the restoration of lively hood and the ability to mike money for yourself. sustainability. >> melissa: this is the live picture now that we are looking at. you see him there and is he shaking hands with folks in their front yard. and, like you said, you know, it is something to have the president come. >> harris: look at the camera. >> pictures of the president of the united states. >> you know, when you have

lived through these storms, as we have on the east coast. and have you had tornadoes in other parts of the country, when you have had devastation from mother nature it, is the thing that yokes us together because nobody can escape it and so, you know, they can move to us higher ground until the storm passes and come back and all in the same boat. yeah. happy in and give the president a hug. taking pictures. this is soul restoring. the long-term work that you heard the governor of north carolina talking about is fierce. and to see him, the president, in a statesman like physician, i salad say charlie next to that democrat, governor, doesn't it all fold away, float away and we are all together on this? >> especially when you care it to what's going on in washington and what goes on in washington. practically all the time now. this is very good. it shows, you know, a president that, you know, is working hard trying to help

out in a terrible situation. and, you know, talking about the farmers down there. and, of course, farming is all about planning. and providing for the future. >> harris: and weather. >> and weather. and praying for good weather. and praying not for weather like this. but, it literally takes years to -- you are set back years in terms of trying to replace things and getting back in a position where can you provide for your family. >> melissa: so many times people are standing there and saying does anybody know we are suffering? does anybody know how bad this is? and that's what having the president go down and look firsthand is all about. he says i see what's happened to you. somebody hears you. somebody hears you and sees you and is here to help. go ahead. >> kennedy: what's interesting some of the communities we saw devastated by harvey in texas and even maria and puerto rico, how neighbors come together and are

actually much more effective at saving lives because they keep tabs on their neighbors in close communities like this. that's why they are able to use apps and alert those, you know, like members of the cajun navy who, you know, are on formal flotilla able to go in and rescue people and individuals who tend to be the most heroic in these situations and that's very inspiring but what i'm curious about is, you know, same parts of north carolina devastated by hurricane matthew just two years ago for people who are receiving federal assistance and emergency aid, are they going to choose to leave the area. >> harris: look at the picture in the center screen. the tears. you know, you see the president leaning in to the circle of people and you know he is getting those details when you have covered this. you know, he is giving those details really individually what it's going to take and is he on the ground listening to that he will take that back and with the

briefing coupled along with this very human take. this human element. i have got pets. they are in shelters. i'm with my children. all those stories, all that texture the president will then make some further decisions about how to help this area. it is just beginning. maria, you were going to say? >> those are long-term decisions, harris. because as kennedy said they are still cleaning up from matthew. we still see puerto rico and parts of texas being rebuilt after harvey and after maria. these are long-term rebuilding projects that will require a lot of attention, whether it's from nonprofits who do great work, whether it's from state and local. whether it's federal assistance, these are areas that once the cameras are gone, once the president is gone, need -- >> melissa: can i say something about these cameras. imagine being one of those people standing on your front lawn and you have been through so much and you look down the street and who is walking down the center of the street towards your house but the president of the united states. and we know, you know, love him or hate him, he gets

very emotional in these situations. it is very touching to him to go out and meet people. is he there with the governor of that state rate now, governor cooper as they sort of walk down the middle. look, somebody on the other side. mr. president. he turns, he spins, i mean, the secret service is probably going crazy. i'm not certain, exactly in this particular neighborhood, but many of the areas in new bern and it is so low lying and beautiful water views from most of the area. just incredible there. it's so pretty. as you look at this, a lot of people don't have utilities. it's not like they are in their houses and watch tv my goodness the president is outside on the front lawn. you are right. they are standing out there. and let's just think about the conditions on the ground also that the president now is able to touch. imagine the mosquito population where there is so much water. >> kennedy: the fact that there is still much more

damage to come. >> harris: imagine the soft ground for those trees and that's why you do this sort of thing up until dusk and then they clear everybody out because tree falls. and it's not the only weather around. there will be other rain to come, obviously, in the forecast. so, this is a vulnerable area now. and so the president just gets to touch and really experience what they are going through. many of these people as we are being told through reporting will not sleep in these homes tonight. they will go away and go back to family, friends, shelters. >> maria: just because it's sunny and blue skies doesn't mean the danger is gone. there is a loft danger still ahead. that was an important point she made. >> harris: hurricane season by the way has not ended. so that isn't to say that another storm could come through here.

but, we're always impacted by whatever is coming by and this is a storm about water. so, if they even get an afternoon thunderstorm, it's complicated for them. the road ahead we keep saying it's long but can you imagine just looking out the window and trepidation in your heart oh my goodness, how much rain are we going to get this time? >> melissa: not only that they are not just looking at their homes being wiped out, it's their businesses. it's not like the kind of business where you can move it somewhere else. if you are a farmer, if you have hogs, if you have poultry and you've gone through these big changes, they are not going back to work. you know, any time soon on top of everything else. it's really a double whammy. >> harris: what we heard from linda mcmahon, they are going to have a special type of loans for people here for some time to come, that's really important because have you got to feel supported. now, some of these people were evacuated, too. so you had the added cost. some hotels have lowered the prices or had given some

things away but it's been a week. so now you have been eating at restaurants. some of these people are you know, on the line economically so to factor in a couple thousand dollars to stay evacuated and come back to this is complicated, charlie? >> it's funny, donald trump gets into trouble sometimes by being unorthodox and not following some of the normal procedures. but this is where that comes kind of shines the most because he will just sort of -- it looks like he is in somebody's garage. >> harris: let me help with you that he really does love regular people. and he loves being around them and he feeds off of it. >> harris: thank goodness because most of us are regular. >> exactly. >> melissa: we are going to continue to follow the president's movements here as you watch them on camera. in the meantime, democratic senator dianne feinstein under fire of hei her handling of the sexual assault

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♪ >> melissa: president trump today slamming democratic senator dianne feinstein for her handling of the sexual assault allegations against supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. feinstein waited weeks before revealing that she received a letter from kavanaugh's accuser detailing the allegations. here's the president. >> what i don't like is that senator feinstein had this letter for a period of like three months from july, maybe even before that. but from july. why didn't senator feinstein bring this up at her meeting with judge kavanaugh? why didn't these democrats?

they knew about the letter because she was showing it to democrats. why did they wait until everything was finished and then bring it up? >> melissa: and on capitol hill "the washington post" reports that there is growing criticism of feinstein among republicans and even some democrats over her decision not to share this information with some of her senate colleagues until it leaked to the media last week. in the mean time, feinstein yesterday stepping up her push for an investigation of the kavanaugh allegations. >> i believe she is credible what we have wanted was an investigation carried out to look at the facts before there was a hearing. and i hope people will let her be and i hope that her lawyers will let her come back and straighten this out. >> harris: had a quick development. this is coming from shannon

bream, fox news at night if you haven't watched it watch it 11:00 p.m. eastern. sources telling shannon that they are willing to send a committee staff to dr. ford in california or wherever she would like to meet to get her side of the story versus, quote, the bright lights of a national hearing. and shannon is pushing for whether or not this is in lieu of monday's hearing or to preclude it. this sun clear yet, whether othis is unclear whether ornot . it's interesting option. also potentially, melissa, i guess, could get the optics of a woman on camera asking her questions should they choose to send that type of staff to go depose her. just a thought. >> melissa: it is an interesting idea but you could see it spinning back in another direction. she doesn't want to come forward so they will hunt her down. it's all in how you say it. >> harris: how the offer is made. >> melissa: or it could be. >> harris: if it happens. >> melissa: she doesn't want to come forward at all at

this point, charlie. her team could kind of spin it in any way they want. i feel like it's not wrong to say there is a reluctance on her part now to come out at all. >> she has leveled serious charges. it's not unfair to say if you are going to level these charges, we need to get a full hearing of them. but it really -- this whole thing has been shameful all around. shameful for what is happening to brett kavanaugh here because it's clearly being politicized. and i think it's shameful what happened to her. the fact that this stuff -- did she ask for it not to be or the information not to be let out? it sort of begs the question well why write the letter in the first place? but, clearly she -- i gather she probably thought that, you know, if this could be established, there was a pattern, clearly a pattern like this was not established. but, in any event, it's a terrible situation. >> maria: she is also a well

educated woman. this is someone who knows what the processes are and i'm sure she has treated people as a psychologist who have had to go through law enforcement and deal with trauma and she also knows the appropriate avenue, if you really want to deal with this, in an appropriate and legitimate way, is to go through law enforcement and not gossipy lawmakers. because that's exactly what they were doing. and, you know, for the people who are looking over dianne feinstein's shoulder, reading that letter, to them, this is an insurance policy. otherwise this information would have been made available secretly much sooner in the process. >> harris: maria, what do you make of the reports and then some democrats on the hill saying it must have leaked it would have been them who leaked it. >> maria: right. i don't think we know who eventually leaked it. >> harris: you think it was leaked by a democrat? >> maria: i think someone had the information and gave it to a reporter. >> harris: looking over the soldier as kennedy just

described made it feel like we were there. >> maria: i don't think it was dianne feinstein this is not helping her. she is getting criticism. i do have questions about how she handled it. >> harris: what would be one question you would want to ask dianne feinstein? i know what i would ask. >> maria: i would ask why they didn't share it with the committee so they could question with ghawfn a closed session. >> melissa: why didn't they ask her about it when she was alone in the office. why would she not say to him and what about this? >> maria: reality is, if there are no other accusations or allegations to come out, regardless of what happens with any hearing, i think brett kavanaugh will be confirmed. >> harris: if you look, if history is any guide, you even have some of the same people on the senate -- right, you even have some of the same lawmakers who would be deposing her. >> feinstein is probably not the only one due criticism here. imagine if chuck schumer hadn't forced mitch mcconnell to do the nuclear

option with neil gorsuch, they would still have that option right now, and they don't. >> melissa: sources telling foxx the doj is in no rush to comply with the president's order. former intelligence officials now saying the justice department should actively thwart the president's order. is that right? is it legal even? we'll debate. ♪ if you're a veteran paying 1500

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truly a cancer in our country. they used carter page as a foil in order to surveil a candidate for the presidency of the united states. all of that in quotes. but, former cia director and trump critic john brennan says leaders of the intelligence community have an obligation to block the president's order. watch it. >> i think christopher wray, director of fbi and dan coats director of national intelligence as well as rod rosenstein overseeing this investigation should push back against any directive that is going to have negative impact on our capabilities if mr. trump and the white house does not relent, i think they have some decisions to make, whether or not they are going to just not follow that direction and be fired or to resign. >> harris: tough part of my job is first do i go to kennedy who is nodding or charlie who is taking notes? kennedy? >> kennedy: i think if john brennan wants to completely obliterate the idea that there is a deep state, he needs to stop talking.

[laughter] >> harris: that's why i went to her first. >> kennedy: people who hold these sensitive jobs in the fbi and doj and cia that they somehow need to get together in a cabal and block the president. >> maria: that's not what he said he said if they don't feel comfortable doing it they should resign. he didn't say they should subvert the president. he said they should make the case if it's a bad idea. that's what you do in government. >> harris: didn't he use the word block or did i hallucinate maria pla maria you did not hallucinate. >> kennedy: john brennan feels like he would do a better job running the country subvertly than the president overtly. they are at odds world views about who should have access to information and, you know, i hope that when the president says that this is a -- his crowning achievement because transparency is so critical, i hope he really means that and not just in cases where it's politically convenient for him. i would like to see all sorts of fisa applications.

i would like to see all sorts of surveillance agencies held to -- taken to task and held accountable for some of the things that they have done to innocent americans. >> harris: it wasn't block. it was hallucination. >> whatever it was. it's clear he is in favor of covering this up and that's very troubling. i do understand why he is is he probably very worried about some of the things that are going to come out. the thing i don't get is why there are some people in the press who are so opposed to. >> melissa: to getting information. that's never happened before. >> yeah. >> melissa: usually more. give us more. >> for 20 years, i have never in my life. >> harris: why do you think that's happening? i'm curious. >> because they are in the bag for being against donald trump at any measure. for any reason whatsoever. because it's all been politicized as kennedy points out. >> harris: if he gets reelected they will be exhausted. >> yes. any heads that have not already exploded will exploit. >> harris: lots of go o goo on e

walls: it's lunchtime. north korea renewing hopes for peace. have you heard? on that peninsula kim jong un committing to denuclearization at a summit with south korea's president. will his pledge lead to a concrete plan for disarmament? what does it all mean for the united states? stay close. hopes you drive safely. but allstate helps you. with drivewise. feedback that helps you drive safer. and that can lower your cost now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? the best simple salad ever?d great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org.

♪ kennedy contend welcome back north korea and south korea say they are getting close to peace on the peninsula after a third promise pyongyang with the promise of another potentially historic meeting in seoul. kim jong un and moon zoo inannouncing agreements aimed at denuclearization. kim jong un announcing to dismantling test sight only. despite conditions for peace, president trump is praising the recent progress made with the north. watch. >> so i got a tremendous letter from kim jong un, as you know, it was delivered three days ago. we are making tremendous progress with respect to north korea. we are getting our remains back. they continue to come in. a lot of tremendous things. but very importantly, no

missile testing. no nuclear testing. now they want to go and put a bid in for the olympics. we have a lot of very good things going. >> kennedy: charlie, this seems like a positive development if north korea and south korea are genuinely working together it's not just about denuclearization. the overwhelming force here is cultural and economic and a desire on both sides to, in some ways, reunify. >> yeah. it's easy to step back and say we have no idea if this is going to work. the path getting here has been troubled. a lot of cases where north korea has made promises it doesn't fulfill. but, whatever. i would rather it seeing this happening right now than nothing at all or something bad happening. i would rather see this instead of seeing ballistic missile tests and things like that. so, and i do think that you have to give the president credit. he wants to reinvent the wheel like every day. he doesn't take anything for granted. he wants to go in and

rethink things. and i think a fresh approach to a lot of things in washington is a good idea. but especially in a place like this. >> melissa: i don't think we have any idea whether or not we are making progress, necessarily. but i think more meetings are better than fewer. especially when they happen in a place that's a whole heck of a lot nicer than where you live. so they take him out of his kingdom and bring him to some place where they have, you know, nice hotels, and lots of food. >> kennedy: would be the first time a north korean leader visited seoul. >> melissa: and say you could live more like this. this is how you get there maria, i know you will say we don't know if they are making progress. that's true. absolutely. we need all kinds of proof in everything. but getting together is a step in the right direction. no? >> maria: i think talking is better than fighting absolutely. i have always supported diplomacy. we have seen reports that north korea while they are talking have continued to make progress even though

they are not testing they are still working on nuclear and missile programs. >> melissa: sure. >> maria: i want the u.s. in these talks. north korea have south korea interest at at heart. many of those interests overlap. we need our people there. pompeo and his team back in the region meeting with the north koreans directly because we are the ones -- we need to make sure our interests taken into account here. >> kennedy: certainly better for south korea if the united states is involved. south korea would much rather be aligned with the united states which has a free market system as opposed to china, which has, you know, flirts with free market principles but still very much culturally centralized system of government. and, you know, that's much more regressive for south korea. they want to get north korea off of that dependency and create a country of their own choosing. >> maria: we will see if the state department reengages they had cancelled last meeting with secretary pompeo. he has been driving the process here.

>> melissa: more outnumbered in just a moment please. stay here.

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place like the plague. >> melissa: very swampy. we are going to stay out of the swamp, we will be back here at tomorrow at noon eastern. in the meantime, here's harris. >> harris: president trump is in the carolinas touring the damage left in the wake of hurricane florence. rivers continue to rise, thousands of homes and roadways remain submerged. thousands of people remain in shelters, rescue is working fast to reach people trapped by floodwaters nearly a week after hit the midsection of the east coast and dropped nearly 3 feet of rain in some areas. president trump raising the emergency response on his multiple stop visit and offering federal support to those devastated. >> in moments of despair we witness the true character of the american people. citizens across our