♪ tomorrow.>> he should join ♪ us! ♪ >> do not miss the show! ♪ >> most important, hannah ♪ will be -- ♪ [cheers and applause] >> thank you for being here! >> hurry up and wait again. fox on top of the senate hearings still on hold. an issue whether christine blasey ford will testify and if brett kavanaugh would become a supreme court justice. we are great to have you here. i am neil cavuto, thank you for being here. we had to know if she is come to testify or not. it is still unclear. that is exactly what chuck grassley to start to do it 2:30 pm eastern time today. if he has not heard back. for the next two hours, we thought that we would look

forward with house judiciary chairman, on what the senate counterpart should do now. another democrat saying this is making a mockery of the process now. the former assistant fbi director on whether the fbi should get involved in this process now. and the peril of using women to score political points now. and some stock market was all my investors do not seem remotely concerned by all of this. but first to ellison barber in new jersey, making it not for from where the united states is right now. >> chairman grassley says that he is giving doctor ford more time to decide if she wants to testify before the senate judiciary committee. he says is the fifth time that they have given her an extension in order to decide if she does want to testify. as she has previously said she

does. grassley treated in part quote - doctor ford, if you change your mind, say so. so we can move on. i want to hear testimony. come to us are we to you. the chairman did not say how long extension is going to be about fox news is hearing the deadline is today. the previous deadline was yesterday evening at 10 o'clock. he previously said they could vote on the kavanaugh nomination come monday. the reason extension changed a few hours after the attorney for the kavanaugh accuser accuse the committee of setting arbitrary and aggressive deadlines. and inappropriate quote - cavalier treatment of a sexual assault survivor who has been doing her best to cooperate with the committee. so far no direct response from the white house but the president defended kavanaugh at a rally in missouri last night and attacked democratic senators as a radical democrat for not supporting it. >> we were talking about frankly, judge kavanaugh. and i said, we have to fight for him. not worry about the other side.

and by the way, women are for that more than anybody would understand. >> right now, we are back to the wait-and-see game. neil: thank you very much. delaware democratic senator, chris coons released a statement late last night saying we should respectfully be working with the board. -- with ford. instead, senate republicans are refusing that the fbi conducted standard investigation, negotiating the terms of the testimony. using the media and using hardball tactics. is an important moment in the committee must be better than this. the country is watching.that is exactly what mark penn says and he is not satisfied. mark is joining us right now. where do you think this goes? democrats and republicans, the waiting game goes on. >> every day the potential

question in america is, whether brett kavanaugh was a rapist, it is for democrats or republicans a day that no one told him of the economy and unemployment and all those other things. the longer that this drags on, the worse it is i think for republicans and you know, i don't know, the 2:30 pm deadline, is not the last, last, last? the republicans, they look like deer caught in the headlights at this point. >> it does sound like an elmer ford, bugs bunny -- i don't know what will happen. we do know that right now it is chuck schumer, he even got a reference from chuck grassley saying you know, he feels that this guy is running the show and leaving the band. is he? >> well, in many ways, they are running the show here. after all, miss ford complained not to the dea somewhere in maryland but really to her elected officials as a political issue to stop the

appointment. so to an extent she also has a lawyer who is a democratic activist. i think democrats to raise real questions. publicans have not figured out how to answer them. this could be a drama that 100 million people watch come monday or wednesday or whatever it is that they decide to testify. >> i'm wondering what happens if and when she does speak. i think she will. but she will speak. and i've heard from many people that even in the event of a tie, this goes to the accuser and the residual political harm regardless of whether you think the judge ever becomes a justice, is done. and republicans will see that in the polls come november? do you see that? >> i do not know ultimately who will win or lose. i think right now democrats are up by a head. i think americans want to know who, what, when and where. i think the basics will have to be answered for someone to have real credibility on any story. and that will be true of both

of them.i mean, i don't know whether there will be trial by television but it looks like unless she decides not to testify at all, and by the way, we've never seen her original letter. that is exactly what we are heading for. and anything could be the outcome of that. no one was more powerful than justice thomas after anita hill and given the long run, the sting of that was never removed from his record or his life. >> he got in. but we also remember that the next year in the midterms, we saw and in the following election i should say, the presidential election, 11 women made their way into the democratic gains across the board and there was nothing said of the election of bill clinton. we will see what happens. mark penn, thank you very much. a lot of what's going on here has been the focus on this and the focus on whether the accuser ever gets to testify. ongoing issues about who and

when. but after all of that we miss the marketing record for the dow, the s&p 500 and it's important to find a couple of minutes ago the president tweeted the new economic records are being set on a daily basis. and it is not by accident. it could explain whether records keep happening. because there is ignoring all this other stuff. we are focused on the good stuff. let's go to fox business, susan lee, fox news contributor, john -- dan, listing with you. he does have a point, -- >> a lot of chaos going on but i really think this is driven by a feeling of optimism about the market. you may not like president trump, you may not like the things that he says and tweets and everything else but i think the market and a lot of people really love what he is doing. as far as the economy goes. tax cuts, maybe tax cuts 2.0. and you have the regulation. these things are fueling the

market and they making people feel really good about where the country is heading. >> yes and earnings are not politically biased, right? susan, earnings have been very strong. they continue to defy expectations. maybe that is it but it is pretty clear for the most part ignoring all of these political things. >> that's right. it is all noise to the peewee look at the actual fundamentals of businesses, they are making a ton of money! 25 percent in the first watt, six month of the year? 19 percent this quarter. the focus, it is not a surprise most of the t.v. screens by the way the new york stock exchange, on this channel and fox business -- >> as they should be. what is going on here? we live in two different worlds. >> we live in a world with the market which is based on the economy and actually working off the economy right now what you want to do. you do not the work of the president's twitter line or anything else coming out. >> they love the guy so much

and he certainly been gold for them. when they were about noise or reverberations that get into a little bit more about whether he was trying to record him or trying to look at the 25th amended to get rid of him and then his chief justice a possibility under duress and might not make it to the high court. when that wear them? >> think so. his policies that are progrowth are already in place. and i don't think it's in the realm of possibility that the policies already inplace. he of all of these political scandals , it had little effect historically on the market. people like low tax cuts and people do not like the tariffs. i don't like the tariffs. i think they are a terrible idea i do not see an offering for us and china. >> trade is the more -- >> it is such a small percentage peewee import $2.9 trillion. it is less than 10 percent which is a fraction of gdp. you have a fraction of a fraction.

it's not that big. >> markets have beenunaffected by tariffs. look at the best performer this week. it's bowing , which was caught up in concerns, do they stop buying planes? it is the best component for the week. by the way we are up 55 percent since election day, a record since november.>> since he was elected. >> also 90th record for the s&p 500. >> i have a question on that. i understand there is concerns late last night, we will explore this a little later in the show but you know we are stopping the talks for the time being. and growing frustration from walmart and others that this is going to have an impact on shoppers may be as soon as the holiday season. the noises out there but to your point it is ignored. and what do you think? >> i think that is just noise. i will tell you why. if we step back and we do not get emotional about this what are we seeing? first of all, we cut a deal with mexico. i do not think canada is far behind. the president has a shot, unify

north america on trade. i believe that europe will not be far behind. why? the oil tariffs. they really going to feel that. i think that europe comes around. now let's look at the big picture.he of canada, mexico, europe. now, the next step -- all of the leverage for china. the president may seem like he's all over the place playing checkers but he's actually playing chess. >> i disagree. we have a potential deal with mexico. i think that china is playing chess and donald trump is playing golf. are they getting the same game! it's like showing up and wrecking the family car because you're drunk and saying i cleaned my room! just because you've done something great for the economy, and you are 100 percent correct by the economy -- [multiple speakers] >> their positivity the marker,

donald trump delivers a lot of the credit. but the majority of the credit. the trade were does not mean it's okay. to me -- >> tariffs go into effect on monday. there's been no impact so far. >> there has been no impact because the economy is so good. >> when we take on china? we have the wind at our back? related to the economy. donald trump is making the right move and essentially weapon i think our economy against china, they cannot keep up with us. we can win a war of attrition. >> where is the offramp? where is the offering for president xi? >> let me talk about two extreme things. let's say that judge kavanaugh never makes it to the supreme court. then what? >> i do not think it has any impact. >> okay, fine. next issue. there is also a lot of folks being fired adding to the stench of the justice department he fires rosenstein

and goes after his attorney general and he does not wait until election to do it. >> donald trump has had the biggest turn over since ronald reagan. and the market has not cared at all. he is doing great things with the economy. >> worst case scenario, cleaning out of all of these guys. it will not affect the market? >> they cleaned out a lot of the goldman sachs regime, it has not had an impact on the market. >> donald trump is the ceo. that's what they do. clean house. >> spoken like a good italian. there is a problem here!we have a lot more coming up. rod rosenstein denied the new york times story that he was working to get rid of the president. and doing everything he could to find a constitutional means to make it happen. the house judiciary chairman on that after this. by 2030, half of america may take after stonington, self-employed and without employer benefits.

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background check based on what they have heard right now. let the committee review that and then have the hearing as they see fit. >> that is a popliteal call among leading democrats but let the fbi investigate this with the accuser and judge kavanaugh and then move on. the former director, new york and senior advisor, bill gavin. joining us now. what role with the fbi have an something like this. the incident that occurred decades ago involving teenagers were initial reports were filed. i will put this on, what business with the fbi have investigating this? >> everyone is trying to get investigation. an investigation, criminal investigation, there is no -- there is a local relations of

the bureau would be criticized for sticking their noses. under the -- where they go plumper there's no federal violation in terms of a criminal case. with that said i don't think there's been investigation by locals because it was never reported that way. let's see what happens if the bureau happens to reopen the investigation. there been six or seven of them already on judge kavanaugh. >> prior to this incident, the argument, the democrats have a have the part reports he said this would be part of it. >> then that is correct. supposed the bureau goes out and the interview doctor ford, judge kavanaugh, mr. jordan, i think that's his name. and nothing comes of it. there's no forensic place to go to the police cannot look at the police report filed at the time of the alleged offense

because there is no police report. they have a dilemma here. they are darned if they do and they are darned if they don't. they do the investigation and find nothing there criticized. then if they find something there criticized by the other side. it's a terrible state of affairs right now. the only thing i can say is, if in fact they do this, if someone should come up with another theory, if someone comes up with a another witness, they go to interview the witness. i cannot make any evaluation on what impact it might have on the whole thing. my own personal view here is that may be, somebody ought to investigate why dianne feinstein held onto this for so long before she did anything with it. it is shameful that she has done a disservice to doctor ford, a disservice to judge kavanaugh and a terrible disservice to the american public. putting everyone in this position at this time. >> real quick, i want to get

the distinction between using fbi investigation report on anita hill in the time of clarence thomas. but they been working at the time, the two of them for federal agency.it was a little different back then. this is going back to teenagers in high school. involving no adult work or at that time anything having to do with the government. >> right. that is correct. there's not much the bureau can do at this particular point in time. with this being that old pair but i want to make it totally clear and i think that you believe in us as well, there is the horror that happens when anybody is sexually or physically molested. it is a horrible thing and if this is what happened in the case it is a horrible thing. and want to make sure that we understand that no one should be put through anything like this. but this is a specific case and one never knows what happened until the facts come out and i do not know how many facts we

can get at this particularpoint in time. >> thank you very much, bill gavin . we want to get idea. everyone wants to hear what this accuser has to say everyone will see what the judge has to say in response. we are waiting to hear that, the clock is ticking. we will follow here what happens around 2:30 pm eastern time today if chuck grassley has not heard back, some recommendations now from his counterpart in the house.

>> all right, we're still waiting to hear back from the accuser, but no response yet to a deadline that has been set for 2:30 pm eastern time today. to hear one way or the other exactly what christine blasey ford will do regarding her demands.

for next week and whether she testifies at all. when we hear anything from that the offer has been made that she can come to testify. they pushed it back for monday to as late as wednesday and even thursday. a big concern, my next guest, is just that both parties are very careful, not using women to score political points. democratic strategist, joining us now. rochelle ritchie. you are a survivor of sexual assault. >> yes, i was 19 years old in college when this happened to me. and i did reported. when i see conservatives and democrats using the story of doctor ford and even, karen monahan juice corporation local points angers me. because it seems like there's more of a political revenge than justice. and it does not sit well with me. i'm seeing it from both sides. i'm seeing republicans come out

and they bring out keith ellison and that you have democrats, you know with doctor ford 's story. it's frustrating because my question is, is more important to have political ramifications than criminal ones? or is a criminal repercussion for this? because these are crimes we are talking about. and it seems -- if these are true allegations for congressman ellison and for judge kavanaugh, then we need to get to the bottom of this as far as the criminality that is involved. not just the political. >> we will not know. to your point, it is a he said/she said thing. you argue women are being used to score political points. this mainstream media would say that this is hurting republicans with women. and the president spoke out against that last night. there are women that want to see this and get to the bottom

of this but it is not necessarily for democrats or republicans. what you make of it? >> i think a lot of women on both sides of the aisle want to see the truth come out. i think the problem is that this is starting to become theatrical. will she get on a plane or not? are we doing this monday or thursday? i think at some point especially, i'm not an attorney, but if i were her attorney was speaking to her as a friend, i would be like, you need to get on the plane. because right now your story is already losing credit from people. and so, we do not need to make this more theatrical. >> who do think is calling the shots here for what she does or doesn't do? >> i think that from what i understand, doctor ford wanted to come forward. and now, she is kind of delaying the process. i feel that she is getting some assistance from members of congress and her attorney is

also being influenced by that. i think it is really unfortunate because i think that doctor ford need to tell her story what happened to her. and she needs to tell her in her own voice. not allow anyone else to tell her for her. and that bothers me because we actually, it is senator feinstein who come forward with this letter in the beginning in july, and it is not to say that she didn't want to make the story public. because i was part of the argument that doctor ford did not want to make the story public. however, if senator feinstein had at least brought this to the judiciary and her members and they could have kept it private. this did not have to be exposed. it did not have to come out into the press. it could have went on behind closed doors. and when they got through with the investigation from july until now, then it could have come to the american people and said look, this is what we've done behind closed doors. because we wanted to make sure that we had a fair testimony from both sides. if you will. and that is not happening. now this is playing out in the press. it is diminishing what has happened to women like me. it really is.

because it is not about justice at all. it is about politics. >> what to make of one of the lawyers arguments that she would be questioned by the senate themselves and not a separate group of lawyers? even i think most of the senators are lawyers. the cynical read is that they want to show these older white men, questioning or trying to eviscerate you know an alleged, hopefully in this case, attacked the victim. and then it is no good for them, no good for republicans. women are outraged and they vote republicans out. >> this is not the time to show boat. this may show boat sort of subject common to sexual assault, it is a crime. and i not an attorney. i guess the fbi would investigate kavanaugh but i do not think they would necessarily investigate the case. >> do you think they should?

that is another one of the demands. >> i think that they should. i think they should investigate what she is saying. >> when you had your assault, i do not want to get personal but who did you notify? >> i went to the police. >> they said why didn't she do this? something similar back then. it was very different but what did you make of it? >> i think it is absolutely false. >> you agree with susan collins it was a mistake? definitely a mistake. there are plenty people in this country that have been sexually assaulted his children, as adults, who do not come forward because of reasons like this. because not only are they going to watch their attacker be put on trial, but their credibility is going to be put on trial as well. >> it's like the old catholic priest scandal.>> exactly, it is the same thing. so why are we scrutinizing this woman for not coming forward

immediately when you're men that have been sexually abused by priests, not coming forward for 50 or 70 years. look at what happened with sandusky. it was years before those people came forward. and even though, what was the coach? they knew about it, why didn't he say anything? >> and even the accusations are sometimes that priests lose their jobs. one prominent liberal saying another reason for this judge to step down from applying for his. what do you think of that? >> it is not about losing your job. like i said, it is a crime. are we going to start saying that you can rape a woman on the street and as long as you admit to it, all you need to do is just lose your job? >> you know the judge saying he did not do this. >> and that is why you have to have an investigation. >> will approve anything? >> i don't know. i mean, it's been such a long time and there is no evidence really. another have doctors notes and things like that. >> okay, we shall see. >> i don't appear. >> rochelle ritchie, thank you

for sharing. more after this including the head of house judiciary committee and what he makes of all of this.

>> we have great people in the department of justice. we have great people, these are people i really believe you take a poll, they have to be at 95 percent. but you have some real bad ones.you've seen what's happened to the fbi. they are all gone. they are all gone! they are all gone. [cheers and applause] but there is a lingering stench and we will get rid of that too. >> next, deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein refuting accusations that he was calling for the amendment

to get the president out. we have the chairman with us on the phone. thank you for taking the time. >> good to be with you. >> me ask you about accusations concerning mr. rosenstein. you think he should step down? >> i would not step down based upon a report in the new york times. i think that there are serious allegations but there is also somewhat bizarre allegations. i think the best way to resolve this is present the document set congress have been requesting. more specifically, the mccabe memos. given the revelation in the new york times story, i think it's time for the department to end the unjustified refusal to turn over these memos. and turn them over immediately to the committee so they can be properly examined. because those memos are alleged to deal with issues like this. >> you are leading to in the

story, he did follow up with comments saying is true that rosenstein was talking about removing or finding a way to get rid of the president. we do not know who is saying and telling the truth on this. one of the denials but they have been couched denials be done ready for another rosenstein was really working to record the president and/or remove the president, would that be grounds to fire him? >> if the allegations are true, there are very serious allegations. i would say yes. that mr. rosenstein would be well advised to step aside. the president and the attorney general will be well within their rights to terminate his employment. it is not resolved, it is part of this larger question of how the fbi and some people of the department of justice handle

the investigation starting in 2016 and leading into 2017 with where this event occurred. it's really important that we get to the bottom of it.both from the standpoint of war actions taken in starting the investigation justified?was the fisa warrant justified based upon the evidence? there is a lot of information that we have now been able to see a lot but there are still key information, including these mccabe memos, a so-called gang of eight information and some of the lisa paige and peter strzok texts that have been withheld that we still need to see. we've already issued a subpoena but with regard to the mccabe memos, simply it's been turned down for some time. i'm preparing to issue another subpoena to get those documents and some other things that were not covered by the first subpoena. >> chairman, still on the road rosenstein issue, chuck schumer

of all people agrees with you on not making a hasty mous with mr. rosenstein. but for different reasons. he made a statement last night that you must not be using this as a pretext for correct purpose of firing mr. rosenstein in order to allow the president to interfere he says, with special counsel investigation. in other words, this would be used as an excuse to do that. what did you think? >> a thing is very important to be careful not to improperly interfere with an investigation. the question here is, should mr. rosenstein and indirectly, the president of the united states, be tried in the news media? it is exactly what is going on here. and it is much better to get to the bottom by looking at documents created at the time that may well reflect on what activities were taking place in

the fbi and the department of justice from the middle of 2016, well into 2017.>> chairman, you were chairman of the house, judiciary committee. your expertise, how to handle controversial issues that come before your committee would come in handy looking at what chuck grassley is dealing with. hoping to get ms. ford to give an answer i think she has until 2:30 pm eastern if she will testify or not. he has moved that back a couple times be what you think of the accommodations that he has made in the deadline being moved for her thus far? would you have done that? >> well, she has made very serious allegations. someone who comes forward as she now has, does deserve to be heard. i think that he has worked very hard to accommodate her.

and there have been negotiations back and forth. as of negotiations have not come to a resolution, he has pushed back the deadline. nonetheless, at some point, i simply have to say, make a decision. are you going to come and testify? he has offered a number of different formats to do that. she can do it privately, publicly, a number of different ways. i think that is all important. but i also think it's important that we recognize that there is a difference between a criminal allegation which is investigated sometime over the last 30 some years and the senate having to make a decision here about a nominee for the court. with a last-minute charge being brought that the senate need to resolve that. and i do not think that it would be wise to say that if

you bring the charge income of the nominee of the president for whatever position, has to withdraw themselves from that position because an allegation has been made. so the senator, chairman grassi, is absolutely right. the job of investigating a nominee in order to decide whether to consent to the presidents nomination belongs to the senate. and therefore, their offer to have her come in and have judge kavanaugh come in, and answer questions regarding the allegation is the appropriate way to go. i do not think that you can hold that out indefinitely. i do think that it is time for decision to be made, are you going to go before the senate and testify or are you not? >> very quickly, sir. one was appalled by, the present made about the accuser. and the timing of remarks and

statements and all of that. i'm wondering if the president has said too much on the matter? >> i think these are very serious allegations. it is true that people, women in particular, men sometimes are sexually assaulted. but mostly women. you have very difficult circumstances that people go through. they often choose not to come forward. i do not think that you can discount the truth of it just based upon that. but the circumstance, particularly how the democrats in the senate have managed this with senator feinstein, delaying this for two months and then coming up right before a vote is scheduled. that is a senate problem. i do not think the president needs to reach a conclusion about the merits of her testimony or the judge's testimony. you need to let the senate do that. >> understood, chairman bob goodlatte, thank you very much.

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now to the summit going on in washington d.c.. i think it is former education secretary addressing the group. indeed it is. from ronald reagan. he was a big conservative icon. mike pence is going to be addressing the group a little later on. today, tony perkins and also he knows a thing or two about how all of this is going down. the crosscurrents over potential supreme court justice, under fire. and so much more happening concurrently. tony, good to have you. >> good morning, how are you? >> very good. how is all of this going down there? the reaction that you are getting from members and those attendees who are concerned may be that judge kavanaugh might

not make it to the supreme court? what do you think? >> i do not think there is concern that he won't make it. i think there is enthusiasm moving forward. it is interesting every time we have these summits, there is something happening here in washington that has significant implications. and of course this is at the pinnacle of issues of concerns when it comesto values . it was one of the motivating issues for evangelicals for donald trump in the 2016 presidential election. i think there is resolve here, which was really solidified yesterday by mitch mcconnell when he said that brett kavanaugh will be on the court. so there is a lot of enthusiasm in the room. it is certainly not reflective of what the media says happening around the country. in terms of a lack of enthusiasm of conservative voters. there's a lot of energy in the room today. >> do you believe these stories that road rosenstein was seriously considering invoking the 25th amendment to get rid of the president?

which would obviously, mean the attention of mike pence to the presidency. what you think of it all? >> i would not be surprised. the opposition to this president as he has moved forward consistently with the promises that he made as a candidate, has drawn opposition from every corner. we seen department of justice, i would not be surprised. given what i have seen in the fbi, department of justice which has been very discerning as a former law enforcement officer.i think there is a lot of credibility that has to be reestablished in the bureau. >> you know, the president talk last night at a campaign that there is a great stench still at the justice department. a lot of figures have been removed but there still a stench. i do not know whether he was directly referring to rod rosenstein but if the president moved to firing now, would that be a mistake? >> well, i think there's going to be more evidence he appeared was he serious or joking? i think more has to be established before the

president would act.i think the president has to be focused on what he is doing. i mean the economy is going well, a 49 year low in terms of the jobless rate. the president needs to stay focused on pushing his agenda forward. not get distracted. if the evidence comes out, i will let congress deal with this and then take action. >> you know, comes in an environment obvious, with the presidency under siege and memos and executive orders for for the present will do something the country might regret. how do you feel about all of that? a lot of people say it is creating paranoia and we are told in the white house, what are your thoughts what to do about, do you think is nothing or a firestorm? >> i can say the effects. it is solidifying the presidents base among evangelical social conservative supporters. here is why. this president is attacked at every turn.

the media is marginalizing him, he is drawing opposition. and guess what? the evangelicals have been under attack for the last eight years and the media and the elite have found a kindred spirit with the president. the more he is attacked, the more resolve there is to stand with him. and the same thing is happening ethic with brett kavanaugh. as we saw the hearing play out and then at the 11th hour, this letter that was sent off for six years is released. it is not getting traction.>> thank you very much. and for dealing with the crowd. we have more after this. he's gonna slap some clips in your hair, give you a bob and then he's gonna move to boca raton. but you're gonna look amazing. ok. there are multiples on the table: one is cash, three are fha, one is va.

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talks and another thing for walmart to request your from the trump administration and officials that tariffs will not result in higher prices for the consumer. not true according to the worlds biggest retailers including the biggest. walmart sells around $300 billion worth of goods to the american public each and every year. the issued a letter to the u.s. trade rep. on friday saying prices will go up for a lot of items because of the china trade fair. among them they say shampoo, futons, gas grills, backpacks and more. how much higher do you say? 10 percent from the tariffs but walmart did provide some detail analysis from the national retail federation. in the case of luggage, francis, you can expect prices to rise close to five percent. they could go up as much as 10 percent if donald trump follows

through on the threat to raise china tariff to 25 percent in january next year. samsonite, another company when they will have to increase prices as well on their luggage because a lot of it is made and sourced in china. furniture, expect to pay two percent were starting next week. the four percent in january. it is not just walmart that has been complaining. others need to increase prices if the trade war with china is not resolved. gas is 22 percent from china. coca-cola is another company that warned of higher tariffs. not untried about global steel and aluminum, they will also have to raise prices for the trade. they're not told us how much just yet and they have not raised prices at all so far in 2018. the list really just goes on in terms of the other companies. i'm trying to get a list here in my head because it is so long at this point. jack daniels and the like, course harley-davidson.

>> i worry about the futons and jack daniels. >> i thought so! >> that is where i'm drawing the line. not on my watch! thank you susan. you will be back later. the president weighing in on a go around involving google. after this. ...

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that skills like teamwork, attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. like the ones we teach here, every day. >> all right. three and a half hours, in case you're keeping track. that's the deadline for christine blasey ford to respond to this yes or no. maybe pushed back to thursday next week, he wants a hearing and he's not going to offer any more concessions or that judge kavanaugh testify first without her to outline the allegations against him in high school. that's the final offer, if you will, and still no response. the read right now from north dakota senator on the phone. senator, you were a supporter of

the judge to make it to supreme court. all of these allegations later and i know you don't sit on the judiciary committee, sir, but are you still a supporter? >> well, i am, neil. clearly, we need to allow dr. ford to give her account and we have to evaluate that, so i'm not going to pre-judge that process, but he's a remarkable individual with an incredible track record. i've gotten to know him a little bit. so, you know, yes, i am supportive, but that's subject to doing everything we can to give dr. ford her chance to have her say and to, you know, listen carefully and evaluate it. neil: i do get a feeling, senator, that it's going to be those who are enclined to support the judge will support the judge and those who weren't inclined to support him will not and her testimony regardless is not going to change many minds. that might be a very cynical read, but since i've heard it from many of your counterparts, i'm wondering if it's an accurate one. what do you think? >> well, i think that we have to take any allegations seriously,

but we have to evaluate them carefully. that's why we have to go through this process and it's important that dr. ford come forward and have her say. and i think what you've seen is that the judiciary committee, led by senator grassley, is trying to be very careful and thoughtful and open and transparent how they go through this and they've offered options to dr. ford to come forward and testify publicly or, you know, in closed session. and so, they're trying to make sure they are careful how they handle this int a fully and thoroughly and transparently. neil: do you wonder whether the wheels are coming off the wagon, senator? i notice a late night tweet from senator grassley quoting here with all the extensions that we give dr. ford to decide if she still wants to testify to the second i feel like i'm playing second trombone in the judiciary orchestra and schumer, referring to senator schumer, is conductor. what do you think. >> two things, chairman

grassley, he's been at this for a long time. he's been through -- he was on the judiciary committee when dr. clarence thomas hearings occurred. he so, you know, he's got a lot of experience. he's going through this diligently following this through the judiciary committee and second, dr. ford really does need to come forward and layout, you know, her account so that people can hear it and evaluate it. neil: what do you think of the notion that is being advanced by a lot of democrats, sir, that they're eager to see your republican colleagues questioning dr. ford because it will look like a bunch of old white men. i'm in that category of all white men so i -- taking this personally, they're saying that's a good optics for

democrats or women, pushing more democrats into office in the fall. what do you think about that. >> that's a concern. i understand that concern and that's why it's challenging to formulate those questions and do it in a careful, thoughtful way. no question that that's a deficit challenge, but at the same time, remember, the democrats have four women on the committee as well. so there are women on the committee as well and clearly, you know, the democrat members are going to have every opportunity to offer their questions as well. neil: do you think that republicans, given the weight and the power of this committee, should err on the side of trying to find as many females to put on it as possible? >> well, again, you know, look. we want to always have people on there based on their qualifications and their merits and obviously people have to get elected to the senate, but of course you want a mix, but it always comes back to people getting elected to office and being there on a meritorious basis. neil: rod rosenstein and his

comments, the president seems frustrating and didn't call him out by name, but i think referred to him in a way that makes you get the idea he's put of that stench he referred to. do you think the president should fire the guy? >> well, look, we've got to get the facts, right? i mean, what's with these anonymous allegations? i mean, that to me is a huge problem. we need to -- you know, if somebody has something to say or want to leak documents get on the record and let's hold them accountable and let's get the facts. obviously it's a serious issue that's been raised, but we need to look on the basis of facts. whether it's this situation or other situations, we need to address the leaks and go on the record if they're going to make serious charges and again, we're talking about getting documents from doj that should help shed light on it as well. neil: good chatting. >> thanks, neil, appreciate it. neil: and the economy is on fire and things are going well, a lot of economists and market watchers say, president trump, you can take a bow.

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happy, number two, the country saving a fortune. neil: the president touting the economy last night and the markets, no surprise there. what if i told you that college students are continuing to tip their hats to them as well? take a look at this. >> i think the economy, probably one of the things he's doing decently well. he's a businessman, that's his strong suit. >> i think the fundamentals are largely obamas, but in terms of confidence and people's attitudes, that's trump. >> when you're in the role of the president of the united states you're suppose today bring people together and not polarize them. but are, he definitely makes some good deals. >> the way he goes about conducting his business, i don't agree with, but overall. >> i think he's done a good job as far as making new jobs and lowering unemployment rate. neil: all right. and that surprises me because you always think of colleges as great liberal bastion and a lot of them are tipping their cap. they don't like everything he's doing, but certainly see what's

going on in the market. and the guy that got them to say that cameron phillips. i was shocked. >> to a certain extent it's not surprising the way the left played this. i think they run the risk of crying wolf. if trump gets hold of the economy it's going to be armageddon and a lot of young people are poking their heads up, wait a second, where is the death and destruction, a lot of young people realize there's never been a better time to be a young person entering the work force under president trump's leadership. and the left has everplay-- overplayed their hands on this. neil: and it came out of president obama coming out of moth balls and saying this comeback is on me, it started with me, and how did they react to that? >> it's interesting to look at who is in college. it's generation z, it's not

millennials. neil: what comes after z? >> i don't want to ask. a not of fake names. they were looking in an academy not sure what they're getting and now they're adults under republican leadership and they're seeing that stability as playing a role. it's not that college students, all of a sudden, campuses are reformed and campuses are conservative. if you look at reform, i don't agree with his style, with the tweeting, some of the divisive things they consider he's done, but on the economy they gave him credit and when people are voting what's the main priority and for many americans, it's the economy. how many people will be willing to put up with things they don't like from trump because they don't want to mess up what's going on with the economy shoo you hear republicans and conservatives say that. they like what's happening right now. it would have been interesting, if you got some of their protesters and might have had a slightly different reaction.

what's your thoughts about young people. >> there's so much misinformation from the left, that they don't like poor people and rich to get richer. and i think a lot more young people are conservative than they know. fiscally they agree with limited government and lower taxes and regulation. when presented from the left, the left won the messaging with young people and the conservatives need to look at equal for all people and equal opportunity to win them over. i wonder motivation, how many are going to vote. right now i don't think there's much of a message beyond voting for the left is anti-trump. it's not really for anything at this point. i think the left needs a better job of seeing here is what we're actually for besides being just against trump and resistance. neil: that's interesting because you're right on that. i suspect you are. there's little reason for young people to come out for or against the democratic message. so if they stay home in a midterm that's crucial, obviously, they're part of the

democratic base, we're told, that could foretell that some of the predictions on many so of the midterms are wrong partly. >> any poll that takes into account having historic levels of the youth voting rates, that's a little-- that's going on in texas and a lot of polls are taking account the younger base getting out and that doesn't traditionally happen. neil: younger people are not coming out in droves like expected. >> and there was a story coming out that young people don't vote absentee, they don't know how stamps work. neil: and your generation-- >> i'm millennial. neil: and when you're going to the kids on campuses, are they feeling good about what we're doing right now or in general or what? >> i think they are. when it comes to the economy. again. neil: focus on the economy. >> i think a lot of the students are lining up the rhetoric they're hearing from their professors, from the media, online and looking at the results they're seeing and they

don't watch. and so they're start to go say who do i trust? do i trust the economic figures or record breaking stock numbers or trust my parents talking about the economic environment or trust my professors that are telling me when it's in the real world it's a death trap and millions are going to die and they trust their professors and media and realize, if you tell someone over and over this is going to be end of the world, net neutrality is going to kill the world, obamacare is going to kill people and it doesn't happen, then you start to wear down that tolerance and i thinked pendulum will start to shift. neil: they're a lot more circumspect than i thought. there you go, cameron phillips, a very smart guy. i want you to do a google search and search executive interference, government interference, don't look now, but the folks at the white house, they're looking at google and a lot more after this.

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>> all right. fox news alert. the white house is apparently circulating a memo, an executive memo with the focus on google to start things off. our gillian turner has more. >> hi, neil, fox news learned the white house is circulating a draft executive order known as an eo, that calls for better policing of the major online platforms, that includes google, facebook and amazon. according to multiple sources who have seen the document, the platforms aren't named specifically in the order and unclear when or if the white house will order it officially. the first is a policy statement that says that platforms are central to the information in commerce and needs to be held

accountable to competition. the second part of the order instructs federal departments and agencies to enforce against anti-competitive conduct when they have authority and when they don't to report issues they have to the federal trade commission and the justice department. this draft comes as ftc plans to hold hearings looking at anti-trust and whether it should be more aggressive. it comes as lawmakers express increasing concerns about the tech sector generally. president trump himself accused google just last month via twitter of prioritizing stories from cnn and other left wing media over conservative news outlets, neil. neil: all right, thank you very much. the readout and the fallout from it, john layfield and with us susan li. what do you think? >> i don't like it, i don't like it. i think we're going down a slippery slope. if we're going to get the government involved in policing what search engines are doing. i mean, where does it end now?

i think we go into no man's land. i think the government will be extremely ineffective if they try to take this on. listen, let the market decide. if people don't like how these search engines and social media companies are conducting themselves, don't use them. don't get involved with them. neil: and susan, with google when you have 90% of the search market or whatever you want to call it, it's not as if you-- >> turn off the spigots, 1.8 billion people visit youtube each month and control a percentage of the advertising market and lobbying washington each year, 18 million dollars. i think that they've priced this in, the performance of a nasdaq that's tech heavy and money that's come out of google shares and facebook and the other social media online platforms, it shows you that the market and invests do think there's title regulation to many could at some point. neil: or there might be a dissatisfaction with the bias that they deem a lot of these

social media companies have and that google's, not social media per se, i understand, but the google ceo and chief financial officer have come out acknowledging mistakes where there is a bias and correcting employees be careful of that bias. >> same thing with jack dorsey and twitter, that his work force is overwhelmingly liberal, but he says it doesn't affect his work and as google says they haven't implemented any of the biases they have even though they may have bias personally. neil: what if it's built into the algorithm. >> i think the market will take over. i agree with dan. aren't the republicans the free market and free speech guys. i don't think they should get into it. it's one of the backbones of our economy. government haven't done anything well when they regulate thing and that's why the internet has done so well. the government needs to stay out in my opinion. neil: what if they're doing this for effect. you better clean up your act or we'll clean it up for you. and the threat alone like trade

is good enough? >> that's certainly possible. i think the president is using this story to say, i was right, there is absolutely people out there against me, against republicans, against conservatives. they're rigging the system all of these things are happening, get some credibility here you know what, neil? google in this particular case has said, okay, these conversations, these e-mails did happen, those were personal views. however, the algorithms have not been impacted by this. but you know what i say, google needs to do a little bit more than just a warning. fire some people. make it very clear, you could have your own opinions, but google must stay neutral and that's going to be our culture. neil: susan. >> i was looking, do you value it as a public utility? because we've had precedence where utilities have been broken up under republican administrations like at&t, and take a look at it in the 1960's or eventually in the 1980's. when you control so much of the

market as google does. 70% of the traffic flow through either facebook or google. if that's not a utility and market monopoly, what is. neil: this is a dumb question, but if google is a search engine, right, and you try to type in articles or get information on, let's say presidents and their state of the unions addresses and this is one of the areas where president trump had a beef and get the praise and such from obama's speeches, let's say and fewer for donald trump, wouldn't that reflect the mainstream media search that's included here, which tends to be left leaning anyway, and wouldn't be a google issue as much as the recognition that mainstream media, the traditional media would use is indeed biased to the left? >> i think you're right. i think the point the president is using this as pressure to me maybe that could be enough. and i think that's what the president is doing in his twitter account. ifs' putting pressure on these guys. just like today we're putting pressure on google to not be biased. and i think the pendulum will

swing the other way. they'll come out with more conservative tendencies to show that they're not biased. neil: you worry about government interference period. you think they've screwed up enough that they shouldn't be dabbling in what's going on and what's working, right? >> i think so, neil. look, can we really be sure that the government can get involved in something like this, policing the internet and being effective? there are far smaller projects they're taking on that are getting messed up. this is like a behemoth to try to take on. i just don't think that-- >> why don't you extend that to when the president demands companies manufacture more in the united states, or hire more in the united states? >> listen, i don't necessarily think that the president is right by doing that, either. if you're going to be a free market guy, then let companies and countries compete against each other. not to go off topic, but that relates to the whole tariff issue. the president wants a level playing field, let's have a

level playing field. if it's better for companies to manufacture in china or someplace else. neil: that's not what he's saying, he should be consistent? >> he should be consistent, absolutely. >> and i would argue, also, the u.s. economy getting to this stage has been largely built a lot of these technology companies and the money they're made and the business that they've brought in. so i would agree-- i'm a free market person myself. i'm not saying that we should regulate them, but there should be checks and balances when you hold such a large portion. market and you have so much control over the information flow and the competitive nature of what he is happening on the internet. neil: i will agree with something that dan said. remember when they held the banking executives before them last year. >> right. neil: they were preaching to these guys how they squander their money. it'd be like me pointing your finger, you know, you really should eat that salad. i'm not the guy to recommend and they're not the guys to preach. i see what dan is saying, but wonder where it goes. >> it's like dodd-frank.

dodd and frank were over the banking crisis and then the government is not good about regulating stuff. who is going to regulate the government. >> good point. >> you're either a free market or you're not. neil: well said. i wouldn't argue with him. you know-- >> it's your birthday. neil: i'll let it go. let it go. and thank you very, very much. we've got a lot of details coming up. still have not heard from christine blasey ford whether these' going to respond to that final offer to testify before the judiciary committee. we shall see. she is no doubt huddling with her lawyers, trying to get an idea whether she can extract any more conditions by chuck grassley, that's it. he had his regis philbin moment. there will be no other offers, after this. for only $5. crocs offroad clogs for under $25. and this new browning 20 megapixel game camera

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>> all right. you're going to testify or not. the offer is out there to christine blasey ford to accuses

judge kavanaugh, you might recall of attacking her when they were in high school. she has about two and a half hours now to say yes or no and that's the final offer, we're told by chuck grassley. there have been other final offers though, so they've kept moving goal posts and offers. chad, what are you hearing? >> we're hearing that they have to, you know, let them know today. that's been the big question here about what time. i mean, chuck grassley sent out this flurry of tweets last night after saying, no, no, no, we're going to forge ahead with the committee vote on monday if we don't hear back to you. and there was a letter from the attorney, debra katz, before he said, that's not even consistent with what we have been discussing throughout the course of the day, considering what she has been through, considering the death threats, considering the fact that she had to meet with the fbi about these threats, so that's significant. here is the other thing, neil. i just talked to a couple of sources and they tell me

considering how far apart the sides are, they would be very surprised if they would actually ever hear from ford in a private or public setting. even those on the republican side of the aisle who are advocating for her, as they say, they don't want this to drag out past wednesday and thursday, and the one person who everybody is looking at is mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader who wants to move this ahead as expeditiously as possible. again, his goal has been to get brett kavanaugh onto the high court by the 1st of october. if you have a committee vote on monday, you know, it would take-- if you had the committee vote 10:00 on monday, it would take you until friday night, if you did everything by the book, and you ran all the parliamentary traps and hurdles, just to get him onto the court. the other wild card, 51-49 in the senate, and you know, we don't know how senators might vote on this with this hanging out there, not having any further resolution than they had

when the allegations were made. and would senators say, i can't vote yes or no on this, or would it influence their vote one way or the other, as they try to come up with a way to get to yes or no because they have this sword of damaclese hanging over them. >> you're right, if susan collins or others on the fence wanted to hear from dr. ford, if they proceed with this without hearing from dr. ford, there's a possibility they could be no votes. >> it's always possible. you know, and i said from the get-go, maybe it's hard for these democrats, you had three democrats who are up for reelection this fall, who are willing to vote for neil gorsuch last year. what's unclear is whether or not how they would be-- they were always kind of counting on three or four votes from the democratic side of the aisle and that's going to be more challenging because they run in trump states and backing brett kavanaugh on trump states. what do these senators do? it's a pretty hard proposition

before and the magnitude of that has increased geometrically. neil: thank you very much, chad pergram fast moving developments on capitol hill. and then on the diplomatic hill. >> i'll be back in pyongyang before too long and i'm hopeful that they'll meet before long. neil: i'd like to go on a fourth trip to north korea. the president canceled his last trip, he wasn't satisfied with the progress that was or was not made. if a trip is back on, rebecca, what can we learn from that? >> it means that the trump administration isn't done trying to exhaust every single diplomatic option that it has in order to achieve their goal, which is the final verifiable

denuclearization or dismantlement of north korea's nuclear program. the trump administration has their eye on that ball specifically. north ap south korea are making gestures that peace is coming and they're not going to have this attention anymore and so it's almost like distracting from the nuclear problem, but the trump administration is still really focused on that goal apso, if secretary pompeo is still willing to go over there and have these conversations with kim, they're hoping to make progress on that front. neil: there's overture, a talk of letters, third or fourth one coming from the north korean leader ahead of the big u.n. assembly meeting. but do we know details and commitments that are clearly spelled out? >> unfortunately, we don't know anything. there hasn't been even any sort of agreement on the terms yet. north korea has been stalling. they're still playing cat ap

and mouse diplomacy and showing that they're a peaceful country. the last parade there was no hard military aspect. no missiles, it was all about north korea's economy because kim wants the united states and the rest of the world want to view them as an economic power. they're distracting from the nuclear problem. what we need to see is an agreement on the definition of terms and a timeline and an accounting of what the north koreans have in terms of their missile capabilities and nuclear capabilities and so far have not been willing to produce that to us. neil: so obviously the show of love and support and camaraderie with the south korean leader and north korean leader, the south korean leader is making sure that whatever has stalled gets restarted again. what do you think of the role he's playing to sort of reactivate all of this? >> i think that moon is over--

in the beginning when the diplomatic overtures happened with the united states he was kind of letting president trump take the lead and the pressure campaign was full force, economic sanctions and pressures were still there and we were holding back a little on the diplomatic front in terms of giving kim the full international endorsement and recognition. kim is now completely ignoring the trump administration's calls to have economic pressure and so, i think he's over and at some point the trump administration needs to rein him back in. and this isn't just a problem for south korea, the ballistic missiles could reach los angeles and the midwest. it's just as much our problem as south korea. neil: this may be outside of the developments, but i did notice that the chinese threw up their arms on the trade talks with the united states. it might have been just a brief temper tantrum, but they're not

interested in reengaging right now. i'm wondering whether that is at play here? >> yeah, it's from -- where i sit the chinese think they sort of have the trump administration in a bind. right now they've got-- they're helping north korea, as far as i can tell, enabling and providing political cover for north korea. and that's been the number one foreign policy issue for the trump administration in the short-term. you still have iran and other problems, but they're still trying it deal with this issue and the chinese know it. so the chinese feel empowered like they have all of the cards with the trade talks because they're the ones that are necessary for actually implementing an accessful maximum pressure campaign. if the chinese and the russians and the south koreans relieve economic pressure, which they're doing, really, the economic pressure campaign starts to fall apart seriously. neil: do you know what's been in a lot of the letters the north korean leaders sent? some of them as a kid, the big old cards you get, your mom for mother's day or something, and

they say everything, all i had to sign was my name. but i don't know what's in them, but whatever is in them impresses the president. so, what do we know? >> well, there's been different letters. i don't know the details of what's been in them, but i've heard that one of the letters that came from one of kim's advisors that came to the president's desk supposedly was very provocative and the language very harsh telling that these economic sanctions that the united states was still trying to implement were hurting the process and that, remember, is whenever they pulled that trip from pompeo. pompeo was going to go to north korea and they ended that trip. neil: right. >> and you hear some of the letters from kim him self and they're flowery and flattering. kim thinks that he can fool trump, flatter president trump and get him to listen, even if we don't solve the nuclear problem, you can be the man who brings peace to the region between north and south korea

and the united states and north korea. i don't think that's going to work. president trump has boulton, and pompeo, and nikki haley and he picked them to be his advisors and all of them are still saying no, what we want is a full dismantlement of north korea's nuclear program. and the reason that is, neil, is they can still coerce the united states in the region. they still make demands. if we allow north korea to keep their nuclear programs, simply because we get tired of trying then we've basically said look to the rest of the worldment if you just violate sanctions nuture and violate international norms, the united states will worn down and we'll reward you for bad behavior. that's not what the united states should do or we're going to do. neil: i think we that should send you to the negotiations. rebecca, thank you very, very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: a week after florence, images that will floor you. the effect is staggering.

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>> you know, a week ago today, florence hit the coast of the united states and this is how things were looking, for example, in north carolina. look to the right of that image and how it is completely changed not only the base the landscape, but the topography. that's what happens and this is registered as among the most expensive to hit the country. now north of $50 billion and counting. jonathan serrie live in lumberton, north carolina. how they're dealing with that. >> high waters receded just enough for traffic to move slowly on mlk drive. take a look in the residence area, water is still surrounding homes and a church, creating headaches for residents. at our location we're overlooking a culvert and as we pan to the right, you can see water swirling around the drain coming under the road and then bubbling up on the other side.

we've been looking at the water mark on that cement on the other side, suggesting it may have dropped about five inches over the course of this morning, but look at that current. it is still a strong current and it's surrounding that house over there and local officials say the lumber river is expect today remain at this major flood stage throughout the rest of the weekend. this comes two years after hurricane matthew left much of lumberton and surrounding robinson county underwater. what many thought were a 500 year flood. two years later, residents are looking at something potentially even bigger. >> i've been here 30 years, never flooded until two years ago, with matthew. and now again. and i stayed, but this time i-- stayed half a week and left and couldn't take it anymore. >> we sent up our drone to give you an aerial perspective. lumberton is 60 miles from the coast, but prolonged rains from hurricane florence created flood conditions not only in this

town, but throughout many parts of southeastern north carolina. closing about 750 roads, including sections of interstates 95 and 40. and meanwhile, flooding along the cape fear river forced duke energy to shut down the lb sutton natural gas plant in wilmington. flood waters breached a cooling lake and department of environmental quality, river has spelled into a basin or a dump, containing coal byproducts or coal ash from a retired plant at the site. duke energy says they're serving power connected to the grid. 26,000 are now without power, but that's down considerably from the 1.8 million who went without electricity during the height of the storm. neil: thank you, jonathan serrie. we're getting a report out of politico that congress is looking at providing 1 1/2

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committee is saying very difficult to hear from her. back with rochelle richie and a former congresswoman nan heyworth. is that the final offer, rochelle, then what? >> she needs to come forward, it's time. neil: if she doesn't and they've offered a number of opportunities? >> i think even if she does or doesn't, i think they're going to move forward. i think they're going to regardless simply because it's so long ago, there's not a lot of evidence. even though she took a lie detector test, it's not admissible in court. she has a note from her therapist, i believe. neil: right. >> i think that they are giving her an opportunity to speak up so that she's had an opportunity, but i think that regardless, i think they're going to move forward. neil: they do plan to say, jenna, all right, we've given you every opportunity, we've moved a lot of goal posts here to accommodate you, and you've got responded or your lawyers haven't let you respond.

so we've got to get going to that. what's the reaction to in? >> i think it's entirely fair. if we remember the context of the senate confirmation, this isn't a criminal trial. they've allowed her the opportunity to speak. what the senate does on this is a precedent on future confirmation hearings. if chuck grassley allows one person, whether or not the allegation is proved, whether or not she can prove or ultimately testifies, what they do is going to set a precedent for what happens in this country. if one person can completely derail the systems based on their negotiation tactics and say i'm going to stall the senate from doing their job, that's setting a very bad precedent for anyone to come. neil: what do you think? >> jenna and rochelle have made superb points. i would add two things i think that americans looking at all this have to keep in mind. one, this process and dr. blasey and judge kavanaugh and all of us, were disserved by senator

feinstein and her staff who were fully empowered to bring this allegation to the committee. they do have procedures, this actually is not a ray dom chaotic thing and greg wrote that in the weekly standard. they could have evaluated this in complete confidence and with complete respect for dr. blasey which is of course what we want to see, and the second point is, i think there's a tell in these prolonged negotiations by dr. blasey's legal team, which by the way is at least partially if not completely funded effectively by george soros and his organization. so that is this their insistence that dr. blasey speak after judge kavanaugh, why? that makes no sense. >> yeah, i won dder what the strategy is on that. neil: rochelle, the point i was curious about, the insistence on the fbi investigating this and the democrats used the fact that they did so, there was an investigation, in the anita

hill-clarence thomas incident. what was the distinction. >> when you look at anita hill, you have an allegation of sexual assault ap you have anita hill's allegation of sexual harassment as an employee. so i think that's the difference that we're seeing and i know that people bring up anita hill, but i think that's a distinct difference that i see. neil: and worked at a federal agency. >> exactly. and-- >> she worked at a federal agency. and this is one thing that we were discussing in the green room before we came out here to speak with you. it's important for people to understand that a lot of this has to do with roe versus wade, right? a lot of people are upset about this, but people have got to start reading and researching things for themselves because if roe versus wade is overturned or overruled or whatever. >> which judge said he would not do, by the way. >> if it is, the states are the on ones deciding women's

reproductive rights. and if-- regardless of what side you've fallen. this is where women and voters need to recognize what the issues actually are here. neil: as women as voters turned off. we were discussing this earlier about this process that's made to look like a bunch of old white men dictating the course of something that they are dismissing? that's the-- >> i think that women need to understand the process. we need to be pro women. we need to be pro men. we need to be pro truth, and that's what especially for the evangelical christians, women who are coming out and voting and who are pro-life, we need to always be on the side of the truth here and we need to be on the side of the-- >> you don't buy some of these polls that show that support for the judge slipped particularly among women and maybe because of the back and forth on this? ments i would urge-- i think that rochelle and jenna again are exactly on point. we need to be informed and if we

want to look and see where do we lay responsibility, realistically for the process has gone as it has. threatened to go off the rail. senator feinstein and her staff had the opportunity. neil: i understand we've got to move forward. i understand, the vote goes forward and let's say it goes forward without her, does that help or hurt the judge? >> you know, i think that -- he wins. i mean, i don't think it hurts or-- >> i don't know. >> i don't know that it's a slam-dunk. >> it should help him because the burden of proof is always on the person bringing the claim, we can't lose sight of that. that's why we have to be pro her as well as the judge. neil: would any of the wayward democrats from states that trump won big be so affected? i don't think they would be. >> i don't think so at all and i think this is why this is a political question and this should be about truth. >> and it's a political problem for them in their states. because support judge kavanaugh.

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>> battle royale on capitol hill. when and how brett kavanaugh's accuser may testify before the senate judiciary committee deciding the fate of president trump's supreme court nominee. >> this has numbers are getting buried in the news cycle and it could have a major impact on the midterms. leland: plus, carnage in iran as gunfire breaks out during a military parade featuring the elite revolutionary guard.