senator will get or the toforma. >> neil: vote this weekend? chad: probably vote win or fail tuesday or wednesday of next week. >> neil: you're on top of things, chad. you get an "a" for the day. he's been all over this. everything has to go like clockwork for republican senators hoping to make a justice and i will all starts on thursday. "the five" is now. >> hello, everyone, it's five in new york city and this is "the five." president trump unleashing in his fiercest support yet of his supreme court nominee brett

kavanaugh. president trump: i can tell you that false accusation and false accusations of all types are made against a lot of people. this is a high quality person, and i certainly hope, i -- it would be a horrible insult to our country if this doesn't happen. and it will be a horrible, horrible thing for future political people, judges, anything you want. it would be a horrible thing. it cannot be allowed to happen, and the democrats are playing a con game. c-o-n, a con game. and they know it's a con game. the accuser has nothing, second accuser doesn't even know -- she thinks maybe it could have been him, maybe not. she admits she was drunk. she admits time lapses. he's startled. he can't believe this is happening. his wife is devastated. his children are devastated. i don't mean they are like, oh,

go, i'm a little unhappy. they are devastated. >> meanwhile, senate democrats are continuing to prove that the facts don't matter with a new wave of summers against kavanaugh. >> the second thing about that interview is when he said that he actually downplayed his drinking and he said he never really blacked out so he didn't remember things. those are things that really go to credibility given some of the stories circulating out there. >> i've heard from both sides and i believe dr. blasey ford, and i believe ms. ramirez, both of their stories are credible, unlike his. he wouldn't actually answer the question or say why he wouldn't be interviewed by the f.b.i. that's not the response of someone who wants to plead his innocence. >> it is judge kavanaugh who is seeking a lifetime appointment to the supreme court and he bears the burden of disproving the allegations rather than dr. ford and ms. ramirez, who should be dismissed with slanderous accusations. >> dana: greg, i'm going to start with you, you're a good

place to start. they are throwing out the fundamental principles of the criminal justice system and that is the right of confrontation, the right of cross-examination, these are united states senators. they have already made up their mind. they have heard from her, they have heard from him so what's the point of having courtrooms and trials in this country. shouldn't we just decide if we like someone ahead of time? greg: what's interesting is they are being honest about it now. both coone and -- both have formulated a fairly chilling response when you ask about due process. they go, this isn't a court of law. you don't need a due process. you know what? they are right. they are basically admitting that we can crucify you without evidence or any kind of corroboration because let's keep it out of the court of law and so you lose -- what you learn now is you lose your rights if you're up for a job, so my solution is everybody needs to get accusation insurance because right now, though it's true because right now, what they are saying is. >> it's called go fund me.

greg: you're going to need allegation insurance and the thing is, one last point, judge. we as human beings we mimic behavior, if you look at fashion, diet, social media, we copy each other. this kind of behavior will spread. the exception of simply an allegation minus evidence is going to spread into other areas of our culture. it's already happening. you see it in the workplace and other places. how do we stop it? judge: kennedy, how do we stop it? what we've got is, united states senators saying that he needs to disprove a negative. how do you disprove or prove a negative? he's got to disprove he did this. if he wasn't there and he didn't do it, number one, how does he prove that? and number two, how can united states senators shift the burden of proof. it's always the complainant. >> it's smart what they are doing. they are coming up with a series of demands that are almost unmeetable, and so essentially when republicans on the senate judiciary committee say we can't

meet those because they don't meet the standard for, you know, protocol in the senate, but also, i mean, that's how our criminal justice system, that's what it's based upon, which essentially follows from natural law. so you're turning all of that on its head and you can't disprove a negative. judge: common-law, absolutely. kennedy is right, jesse but they are saying she's not getting fair and respectful treatment. what do you say? >> jesse: i think democrats have been unfair and disrespectful throughout this whole process, to kavanaugh with the smears and sandbagging. listen, everything they have done has been political, the timing, the demands, the entourage surrounding this person. you know what the republicans said? they said okay. let's take politics out of it. we aren't going to question her. we're going to appoint an independent sex crimes prosecutor, female, who knows what she's talking about, and she'll be the one to ask the questions, not the politicians, and then the democrats turn

around and scream and said, this is unfair. this is going to create a circus. they have been the ones creating the circus here, and this type of person has been used before. in watergate, in iran contra as well as mafia hearings so there is nothing new to this. judge: bringing in an outside attorney. >> there is nothing new to this and the democrats are complaining because i don't believe ford will look good being questioned by a female experienced litigator with the story that she has. i think her story will not hold up well, and that's the reason the democrats are upset about this. >> i haven't heard a word here that indicates -- because the judge started out by saying democrats are smearing judge kavanaugh. i haven't heard a word of smear. judge: he's guilty. he's guilty. that's a smear. >> that's not a smear. >> attempted rapist, that's a smear. >> let me talk and then you can respond. clearly this is not a court. this is a senate confirmation

hearing. judge: it's congress. >> you have an opportunity for the judge to testify, to say whatever he wants. no one has heard from ms. ford yet. [talking at once] >> the second thing to say here is, they are bringing in a woman lawyer because they have got 11 men on the republican side. and they are embarrassed. judge: they aren't embarrassed. >> they can win but what they have got to do is they have got to give her a fair opportunity. so what her lawyers have said is, hey, wait a second. we're not coming in here to be beaten up by somebody who is a criminal defense investigator. you refuse to even have the f.b.i. investigate. judge: let me ask you this. the rules are very simple. >> by an experienced prosecutor. >> they are the senators, why shouldn't they do the questioning? >> dana: because they balked at it. >> this guy who is now hiding

out, who says that he was involved with drinking escapades. >> if you let one witness come in they will have seven, eight, or nine, and then you'll draw it out until november. >> jesse, you said a minute ago why are they are rushing this? >> the only reason why it's being rushed is because dianne feinstein delayed it. >> in other words, you would say ignore the woman, especially after she takes the risk -- >> you want it both ways. here's the problem. the questioning of anita hill were so bad and offensive and we can't have a repetition of that in this day and age. the culture has changed. the senate has changed, society has changed and we're also in the middle of a movement and we don't know how that ends. we don't know how that permanently changes society, but if you have a problem with people like joe biden and alan

specter going after a female witness or a female accuser or someone who has sworn under oath to testify before this committee then why not try it differently? why not have someone who is not show boating because when senators have their chance like cory booker, this is my spartacus moment, that's when it turns into a circus and that's when people tune out. because everyone is auditioning. >> this is not about a cross-examination. >> why not? judge: how else do we test the truth in this country? >> because you give both people a chance to speak. judge: how do you decide? >> whether or not it's a credible allegation and whether or not you believe it. judge: whether it's a civil case or criminal case -- this is even more significant. because this country is going to be under the rule of a supreme court with a man on it like this, and that's why we need to have a test of truth. i'm saying >> you just want a hard right

supreme court -- >> no, what i want is the test of credibility. >> before we go -- judge: you're not going to want to miss "the five" tomorrow. >> we're missing one big thing. he said there was no smear. we had a guy who just crawled under a rock after calling kavanaugh an attempted gang raper and made twitter private. instead of driving deep on a specific case, what do you is you find a number of specific examples that alone are not sturdy. one, ford, two, ramirez, three, yearbook, four, avaneti's claims, the yearbook, the other case has no corroboration, no witness. individually, they don't match. they are not strong. so what do you is you create an

environment of guilt by using these little things. that's what the democrats are doing. it seems to be working with the help of the media. judge: it is working because the more complainants you bring in, the fewer that you have to be testified under the rufls of credibility that we've used from time -- >> they are willing to stand up and put themselves -- judge: if they don't show up what does that tell you if they don't show up? what if they don't? what if they don't? >> i don't know. why do you say that? judge: you know why? >> do you think avinetti will show up on tv tonight? do you think he is? >> i don't know that that says anything about blassie ford. why don't you let her testify. judge: you don't want to miss tomorrow because president trump

is holding a press conference at 5:00 p.m. eastern. we'll be bringing it to you live. up next, rush limbaugh has a dire warning for republicans ahead of the midterms. 300 miles per hour, that's where i feel normal. i might be crazy but i'm not stupid. having an annuity tells me retirement is protected. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retireyourrisk.org

rally his base tweeting out a reminder the midterms are right

around the corner and rush limbaugh taking it a step further. he's issuing a stark warning about the elections if brett kavanaugh is not confirmed to the supreme court. >> if the republicans do not get this vote taken and have kavanaugh confirmed you can kiss the mid terms goodbye. you can kiss goodbye holding the house and you can kiss goodbye holding the senate because whatever the democrats think of their base, the one thing i know is, that if you guys fold on this and cave and keep bending over backwards, you've done that enough. >> this comes as the g.o.p.'s favorability hits the highest mark its seen in seven years. a new gallup poll finding 45% of americans have a positive view of the party. jesse, let me begin with you on rush limbaugh. what do you think? so if he's saying that if the republicans don't force kavanaugh on to the court, that the republican base will be disappointed and stay away from the voting booths in the midterms.

>> jesse: yes, rush is right. listen. they hole everything in washington, d.c. the white house, the senate. if they can't get kavanaugh through, they are host. here's why. they need to be more machiavellian. irs targeting, street violence, you remember how harry reid accused romney of not a big any taxes. they said romney killed cancer patients. they are very, very rough-and-tumble. right now the republicans are teetering because they haven't funded the wall and they have only partially repealed obama care. the reason why favorability is up to its highest level in three years because they have hung tough on certain things. like judges, like safety and security, and like middle class wages, and donald trump is leading that charge for the party. he'll not cave to political correctness and he won't back down when democrats get hysteria

and start making unsubstantiated allegations. if the republican party loses its grip on power it will be because they caved on this nomination. >> you hear from jesse, just get it done. republicans must win, but what about the process? >> you want to talk about the process? let's bring in a prosecutor to cross-examine the complainant. look, here's the problem. for the last few years, americans have been frustrated with the clinton foundation, with the attorney general, with the email investigation, with de classification, and now they want republicans for once and for all to put on their big boy pants and get it done. and i agree with rush. if they don't step up, the republicans are going to totally lose their support. by the way, the numbers are the highest they have been in seven years, g.o.p. support. i mean, everyone is anticipating and anxiously awaiting a success and it's got to happen. mitch mcconnell can take this

vote to the floor. he doesn't have to do this in committee. he can do it on friday if he wants and i have a feeling she's not going to show up and they can vote on friday. >> i actually agree with the judge and rush on this. i don't think she'll show up. that's what i said at the top of the show. her lawyers have created enough wiggle room for dr. ford, that i really don't think there is a lot of upside for her, and i think there is enough doubt on the republican side. where is there republican optimism? it's all about the economy and families believing that they have got more at stake invested in their future and more economic mobility, and that means more opportunity for them and their children. is that reality? some of this is still very much optimistic and theoretical and republicans have to make good on that promise if they are going to see long term wins but in the short term, the midterms is still a tossup, it's still anyone's game and that's why people like rush limbaugh are tongue lashing some voters

because they need to increase that passion and turn that optimism into action if republicans want to maintain the house and senate which, you know, it's a 50-50 shot. >> gregory what do you think? greg: on the short term, team sport politics when one side wages war you have no choice but to wage war back and the democrats are waging a pretty fierce war. the republicans have no choice. long term, and, this is, i don't know, this is an idea, long term, republicans will have an edge because if the democrats are saying there is no due process when you target your sons or your fathers, then the republican party becomes about justice for all, and the democrats become a party of justice just for women, and so the thing is what party is going to have an edge in the future? a party just for women, or a party for men and women? and i think the republicans could look at it that way, we're the party for everyone, men and women. they are just the party for women, and i think people would rather prefer unity over

division. >> hillary clinton, gender-based identity politics. she thought she was a sure thing. i think the trump campaign thought she was a sure thing and she let that slip through her fingers by creating what turned out to be a divisive campaign. you can't alienate half of your electorate. >> no, but i think the other side of this is women wanting to be heard. >> but we're listening, men are married to men. they have sons, and all the boys listen to their mothers and their sisters. >> i'm a man, i understand. but what i'm saying to you is that we have a history in this country of women being dismissed in terms of kind of sexual misbehavior by men and so forth, and we have an opportunity here -- >> do you read "the new york post"? women sexually misbehave as well. all men are not the devil. >> in this case, going back to what greg was talking about with the yearbook at georgetown prep, you know, it was making fools and mocking women.

>> no, it wasn't. >> that story was a left wing activist democrat. >> judge perino: everybody thinks that the hash tag me, too, movement is the first time we've talked about women's rights. there have been women in the trenches fighting for women's rights and rape victims and victims of domestic violence for 40, 50 years, so don't make like this is just happening. michael moore's new anti-trump film bombs at the box office. jeff wood, that's next on the fox.

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poseidon. does the flop matter? meanwhile, the coastal elites use more -- as a virtue signal. the french say 2 same thing so the lie stands. moore's films are like vitamin supplements. most offer zero benefit but you still say nice things about him but to his credit, moore's movies are overtly political. unlike the rest of hollywood, where they inject politics to get stuff made. then there is that part about climate change. at least moore wears his politics on his sleeve. god knows there is plenty of room. i'm sure the media expected the film to open big. a rejection of trump and you. it didn't and it wasn't. the lessons, ideology as

entertainment is as loony as a colonoscopy for recreation. plus america doesn't need a lecture from a rich dude about how bad things are when things are good. our country's metrics look great which turns moore's cinema into a fairy tale. as usual, when there are flops the media ignores it. if it was number one you can bet he would be everywhere. there is an old saying, you don't report on planes that don't crash but you also don't report on your favorite beliefs that do. you know, judge, we just wanted to escape. who goes to movies for political, would you go to see a political movie right or left? >> judge perino: i'm dying to go to a movie. i'm trying to get anyone to take me to the movies. i would go to michael moore? >> you have to do something, because you know what? i don't think -- >> judge perino: you and i couldn't agree on a movie. >> i'll pick a movie.

>> judge perino: ben hur. >> something in this century. >> judge perino: "gone with the wind"? kennedy what do you want to see? >> what do i want to see? gosh, i love marvel movies. >> you know what would you love? the new nicholas cage movie. mandy. it's fantastic. >> i heard his character is unreal. but it's so funny because we're talking about this, we're not talking about moore because it's not entertainment, it's not how people consume that kind of information. everyone has giant costco tvs, 50-inch platinum tv or plasma, whatever. soon fox nation, you're able to watch this incredible content and you go to movies for total escapism. that's when you -- >> because, in fact, michael moore had some hit movies that were about news.

but now i think news is so omnipresent. >> fake news. >> so the big week -- the big movie in my family this weekend was "the house with a clock in the walls." >> was that good? >> i didn't go, ever went except me because i worked. >> they liked it? >> they loved it. the little guys got a little scared but that's where people went. they didn't go to michael moore but i think it's because the news is kind of rough. >> you need escapism. >> here's the difference between the first and second. the first movie was based on a conspiracy theory and the audience loves that remember the saudi connection to the bush family. dick cheney's war propheteers. the critics loved it because it was fresh. there is no conspiracy with donald trump. it's all out in the open. there is nothing going on behind the scenes. if anything, people are conspiring against him and if

you want anti-trump propaganda, you watch cnn or you watch msnbc. >> you know what's interesting, and michael moore was one of the few people who called the election ahead of time. there were very few, so many people, all the pollsters were off and he was the one person on the left, i know these people, i know these people in michigan and the rustbelt and they are so disenfranchi disenfranchised, what he's saying resonates, and he could easily win, at least this part of the country and he was absolutely right. so he makes a better analyst. >> they thought somebody else was benefiting, not them. i think that's what it is. and jesse, by the way, i just, to me, when you look at michael moore, it seems to me michael moore was hitting something that was very real before, and you could say, oh, no conspiracy this time? well, tell that to the russians. >> jesse: what was the conspiracy? >> that's what robert mueller

and everybody -- >> it's a russian -- the russians are behind the flop. >> i think they are in the wall. in the movie. >> shall we move on. left wing protestors chase ted cruz out of a restaurant and that's just one example of liberal lunacy over kavanaugh. i'm not gonna have enough for retirement. like there's something else i should be doing. with the right conversation, you might find you're doing okay. so, no hot dog suit? not unless you want to. no. schedule a complimentary goal planning session today with td ameritrade®.

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tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. >> liberals are losing their minds over brett kavanaugh. when left wing protestors harassed and chased senator ted cruz and his wife out of a washington, d.c. restaurant for supporting the supreme court nominee. [chanting we believe survivors] >> we would like to know your position on kavanaugh. >> god bless you, ma'am. [chanting we believe survivors] >> excuse me. can you let my wife through? >> late night comedian jimmy kimmel is under fire for making

this crude joke. >> i think there is a compromise here, and hear me out on this. kavanaugh gets confirmed to the supreme court. okay. in return, we get to cut that pesky penus off. >> doubling down on her claim that kavanaugh is already guilt. >> even though they heard about the second accusation. >> they figure they will push him in they will get their way and then we find out the guy is guilty. what good is that? they would have to impeach a supreme court justice. >> so your party has managed to make ted cruz look like a sympathetic figure. [laughter] >> that's not easy. i'm just kidding, i love the senator but in all seriousness, you guys don't want people to eat, chasing them out of restaurant, condemned. >> i don't think it's appropriate. >> what do you think about it? >> i want to add to that.

we never did this to de soto, and kagan and the truth is, kagan was nowhere near qualified. >> he's not the nominee. >> no, but it's for their support of kavanaugh. that's what it's all about. >> what i'm saying is -- >> joe biden didn't get chased out. >> we didn't have 102 arrests because we didn't like kagan. we didn't interrupt 451 times because of de soto. we respected the candidates. the democrats have no respect. >> when the healthcare thing was happening there were some pretty disrespectful people? >> tea party protests. no tea party member chased someone out of a restaurant. what do you make of this aggressive behavior. >> right wingers don't do this. left wingers do, because they ascribe a moral judgment on your politics. you're not just wrong, you're evil, therefore that excuses any kind of action. it's go after and humiliate

someone in public because they are evil, not wrong. we're getting dangerously close to mob rule, all right? here's the evidence. we have a media that's excusing violence. saying they are a nonviolent peace group the media is excusing allegations without due process. that's mob. the media excusing hindrances of free speech on campus. when you put that stuff together you're losing control of a country. we're talking about mob rule and it -- people think revolution doesn't happen like that. it happens over time. i don't know at this rate where we will be in 20 years. >> i think we're divided but let me come back. it wasn't the left wing that went into ping-pong pizza with a gun. >> it's a group that beat people up. >> and who ran -- >> the right has nuts. you guys have movements. >> i see. >> when they run and kill -- >> literally movements. >> i'm just saying -- >> one side or the other, greg is making out like -- >> we're about rule of law.

you're about chaos >> here's the thing. now it's interesting because democrats' line is we don't need due process. they want to turn the senate into a circus. they want to do away with roberts rule of order and any parliamentary procedure because it's inconvenient for them. that means leftists, for me, it's not about party. it's about emotionalism versus rati rationalism. they let their facts and claims speak for them. when that fails, and that's the case in the kavanaugh hearing that's when you resort to this kind of emotionalism. it's an abdication of personal responsibility because people no longer feel like they have to comport themselves like rational human beings. >> i thought martha maccallum

did an excellent job of interviewing kavanaugh last night and put a finger in the eye of all fox critics who say, she's not going to be a straight interviewer, she did a good job, but it was emotional, to your point. i was a virgin, therefore i couldn't have done it. that's not relevant and it didn't feet. you can still attack somebody, but -- >> what would an acceptable defense, what could brett kavanaugh say to you that would make you think -- that he was not guilty. >> when he says he didn't do it, therefore, so what party is it that you say -- he doesn't even know that. >> everything he said has been almost airtight. >> oh, please. >> every defense from the witnesses, they have all sided with him. >> where is -- >> denial under penalty of perjury as well. exculpatory -- >> due process. >> perjury for making the claim. every complainant who brought a case in my office under penalty of perjury, you make the claim,

you don't follow through with it, i can -- >> that's a criminal action. >> we just want to eat in peace and not be asked to leave a restaurant. >> the book on sale today and we'll preview it up next.

president trump: to those i say the following. >> what do you have to lose? >> what do you have to lose? >> what do you have to lose? >> at least someone tried to answer that that was one of the more memorable lines from then candidate trump on the campaign trail and it's sparked a nationwide debate about race and politics in america. those comments have also inspired our friend and fellow contributor juan williams. "what the hell do you have to lose?" it hits bookstores today. go buy it, because juan williams, even if you disagree with him, is a great writer. juan, is it your obsession with the president that caused you to research and write a book all

about him? >> i was taken by these words. what the hell do you have to lose? the suggestion was, these black folks, they live in communities with lots of gun violence. they have no jobs, and they have no future, and they have been voting for democrats. so it was -- what the hell do you have to lose? why not come vote for me. that's the way i understood it. but then i thought, wait a second. he's not speaking in a black community and he's not speaking to blacks. he's talking to whites about black people in this way, and much the way he talked about the mexicans and the immigrants, rapists, and criminals, but in this case he's saying to whites, he, donald trump, is a hero who will protect them against to a case os and dysfunction that threatens. i thought two things. one, most black people don't live like that. i think 22% of black americans live in poverty but i think it's 40% of black america makes between $35,000 and $100,000. so a majority, more than 50% --

>> can i respond to this? i think this is interesting. i do think he was talking to you. donald trump was using the television to get to an audience that the media wasn't going to give him, so when he went and said what do you have to lose? he was talking to african-americans, and the pitch, it was a sales pitch. he's a salesman. the sales pitch is exactly the same that thomas, walter williams, shelby steele, have echoed in the past, if you don't offer a competitive product to the democratic party, the democratic party doesn't have to try, so all trump is saying and all the black intellectuals are saying, once the republicans offer a competitive product, finally the democrats will stop taking blacks for granted. >> that's a logical argument, greg, but the point is, that wasn't arguing for programs that, in fact, would bolster -- blacks or help the blacks. >> he's very open. >> prison reform, look at what

the justice department in the trump administration has done. they have pushed back against republicans -- >> jeff sessions -- there are people within the president's circle, jeff sessions is awful when it comes to criminal justice. there are people inside the white house, gerald kushner is pushing prison reform. >> but it is going to happen. they have passed part of the bill. what they want. and, by the way, what the hell does he have to lose? can't we even look at unemployment? african-american unemployment. didn't it work? >> no, this is exactly trump's retort. whenever anybody asks about race. look at the unemployment rate. two things i would say to. this most of that reduction was under president obama and the second thing is, black unemployment remains double white unemployment. and then you get into the details, which i do in the book about programs that are intended to bolster black economics in this country either in terms of work or investment, and you see that the trump administration -- >> can i ask you this. after many years of the

democrats putting into place these economic programs to help blacks, why is black unemployment and all of those metrics double what it is for whites? does that tell you, then, maybe these programs that the democrats are putting forward, may not be working? >> in some cases they may not work. in some places -- >> so what's wrong with donald trump saying let's put new programs on trade and technology. >> you're talking about a again dency on government programs. >> one is, if he had new programs i would be anxious to see them. >> and the second thing to say is, and just the way -- the way you framed it, you fail to see that, in fact, there have been tremendous, i think the biggest accomplishment of the civil rights movement has been the increase in the black middle class and black political power that produced the first black president. ignore the fact that there has been progress is condescending and insulting to say, what the hell do people have to lose?

>> obviously, racial history in this country is checkered with so much tragedy and sadness, and there has been so much division, and it seems like, there are a lot of people who are willing to give into that division. i would like to see someone and it doesn't necessarily have to be the president because i don't believe that politicians are messianic. i don't believe government programs help people. i believe people help themselves. i would love to see people come forward who can bring people together. >> are you talking about me? >> that was supposed to be barack obama. >> to a certain extent he did and then it became polarized. >> at least he's having an interesting conversation and he's bold enough to do that and he's willing to say don't bully me into your politics. i don't want to believe what you believe just because you tell me what to believe. i have a great deal of respect for that >> i have a great deal and respect with you guys for having a conversation because i think this is an important conversation that people

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>> it's time for one more thing. you want to hit it greg, first? greg: let's go -- greg -- here are the rules. i'm going to show three cat videos. you vote on the best one. a disembodied brought hand scratching the butt of a cat. i think that's pretty good. though it would have to be disinfected regularly. next video, please, here we have a mommy cat and her little kids chasing her tail. they aren't very bright, are they? isn't that adorable. final video, a slow motion kitten, catching a fly. >> i'm going to go with the hand? >> i'm going to go with the hand. >> hand at the end. >> hand.

>> it's halloween time. got to go with the hand. >> i like the hand because it's the only noncat thing. >> hand wins. hands down. >> today is national one hit wonder day. >> they are amazing, the man has a taste of this fin nominal instant success and then it's all over. some of my very favorite ones. how bizarre. how bizarre. how bizarre. ♪ >> tell me, you don't remember that of course, this one from harvey -- flagpole -- such -- it feels like we should have moan much more about them. of course, this one that launch mtv, very first one that ever played. >> jesse. >> speaking of one hit wonders, i'll go next.

>> philadelphia flyers unveiled their new mascot, mascot is named gritty and it didn't get off to a very good start. this is what gritty looks like. that is the mascot. and it kind of got off to an inauspicious debut. crashed face first on the ice, i believe. down goes gritty. some people have been saying some mean things about gritty. this is one tweet. loving the new flyers mascot gritty, nightmares for days. then we have ryan, if you mix the abominable snowman you get the new mascot. and finally, from hockey fights, this is your brain. this is your brain on drugs. so there is the new mascot gritty. people call me gritty. >> i think philadelphia has the best mascot, phillies fanatic, i don't know what happened to him. a league of their own. how about a flight of that i own. take a look at this video, folks. those women are veterans from nebraska.

they went to washington yesterday on an honor flight. the veterans, 27 to 98 years old, celebrated their military service with a jam packed day in the capital, after being cheered in the airport they visited arlington, the pentagon and the women's memorial. by the way, you should know everyone on the flight was female. even the pilot and the crew. having a woman's only trip was the first for the honor flight which annually brings veterans to d.c. hats off to the ladies. thanks so much for being true american heroes. >> that's right. >> now, jesse, up talking about the ice, i want you to meet the world's first ice skating dog, a lovable labrador who spends his days at the rink after being saved from euthanasia. he's been learning to skate for a year after his owner, former coach sherrill took him on a long tour of practice on a whim. during the foray on the ice, he

went around, gleefully picking up the pucks. that's it. you don't want to miss tomorrow's show. we'll have president trump's press conference live at 5:00 p.m. president trump urges the united nations to isolate iran and promises to fix america's massive trade deficit with china. i talk exclusive with south korea's president about denuclearization with the north. and with two days to go before she makes her case to senators, a lawyer for the supreme court nominee's chief excuser is still complaining about the format, so will it happen? this is special report. >> we're coming to you live tonight from fox news world headquarters in new york, not far from that building, the united nations