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to be, in terms of normal. this is so even beyond that. >> sean: and 41 days, rush is right, you have all the power. this is insanity. we'll always be fair and balanced. let not your heart be troubled. laura is in the neck studio. we were back in d.c. tomorrow. how are you? >> laura: i thought you were up in the rain. you can weather any storm. you are supposed to be up there. now you are in the cozy studio right next to me. >> sean: why are you being so mean? i just said laura is next, let not your heart be troubled, she has the latest, breaking news, don't miss laura's show. then you trash me every night. what is up without it? >> laura: sisterly-brotherly love. sean, great show tonight. you are buying to margaritas later. gotta get ready for tomorrow's hearing. welcome to "the ingraham angle." i more anchorman washington. we are 12 hours away from one of the most anticipated senate hearings in history. kavanaugh and christine blasey ford will make their case in
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front of the committee, and an outside sex crimes prosecutor. we have every angle covered. you don't want to miss a moment. we will talk to a high school friend of brett kavanaugh who is mentioned prominently in the calendar that he submitted in the 1980s to the judiciary committee today. she'll join me in studio. plus an examination of a very flimsy polygraph submission by dr. ford as well as as well as some last-minute stall tactics by democrats that may show them to be less confident than some order soon. what must kavanaugh accomplish at tomorrow's hearing and how might performance mean more than substance? raymond arroyo is here with some "seen and unseen" insights. but we begin with the accuser's last act. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." ♪ >> i have opposed his nomination. >> from the beginning -- >> i've opposed it from the
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beginning. i think the nomination should be withdrawn. >> i strongly believe judge kavanaugh should withdraw from consideration. and the president should withdraw this nomination if kavanaugh won't do it voluntarily. >> i join leader schumer and calling for judge kavanaugh to withdraw his name from consideration. >> laura: tracker. we told you this was going to happen. the longer the republicans allow brett kavanaugh to twist in the wind, the more concessions they granted to his last-minute accusers, the uglier it is going to get. you know in musicals, the 11:00 number always arrives right on time to close at the show? well, the 11:00 number in the kavanaugh confirmation saga has arrived. [drumroll] oh, he looks adorable on that stage. michael avenatti delivers a gift today. he drafted an affidavit in which this woman, julie swetnick,
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gillette, claims that kavanaugh, wiley high school student in the early '80s, spiked drinks at house parties to loosen girls inhibitions are then essentially groomed them to be gang raped inside rooms brady fairly alleges that kavanaugh was present at one such party in approximately 1982 when she was gang, though she says he didn't take part in it. swetnick claims there are witnesses that can vouch for her account. we haven't heard from them. reacting to those outrageous charges, kavanaugh said the following. "this is ridiculous and from the twilight zone. i don't know who this is and this never happened." now this is the third in a series of what certainly appears to be a carefully timed and coordinated smear campaign on kavanaugh. first there was christine blasey ford, who is still scheduled, as i said, to testify tomorrow morning before the senate judiciary committee. exactly no one has corroborated
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her claims and the polygraph test that she submitted to the judiciary committee today, it read like it was conducted by cory booker. we have more on that in a few moments. then from state for the love came social justice advocate deborah l pack deborah ramirez, who claimed that kavanaugh exposed himself to her during their freshman year at yale. ramirez may have exposed the holes in her own story by admitting to fans that she couldn't be sure if kavanaugh was the guilty party. there are no corroborating witnesses. kavanaugh has denied that it happened and ramirez herself admits to being bumped, slurring her words of the time, and she conceded that her memory was "foggy." then today, we saw a new addition to the playbill. mrs. swetnick. now like the other two heroines of the anti-kavanaugh resistance, her allegations are already getting bad reviews.
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she says she attended at least ten parties where gang-rapes were taking place. she also said she went back to one such party in approximately 1982 after knowing that these be these be 21s were taking place, where then she herself was raped. it's important to note in 1982, she was a sophomore in college. how many college students do you know who attend high school functions where gang-rapes had previously occurred? none of it makes much sense at all. but this does. tonight we are learning a lot more about avenatti's new prize, ms. swetnick. according to politico, her ex-boyfriend paints a disturbing picture of her own character. in a phone interview with "politico," he said this about his 2001 injunction. right after i broke up with her, swetnick, she was threatening my family, my wife, threatening to do harm to my baby at that
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time. i know a lot about her. she's not credible at all." he said not at all. wow. despite all of that, of course the media today did what they always do, try to make president trump out to be about going all this. another choreographed performance. >> if you don't mind come after i am finished, if one of our female colleagues could go after me, that would be great for great for you to does that mean? 's think it would be great if a female -- >> what does that mean? >> i think it would be great if a few my reporter would ask you a question about this issue. if you don't mind -- >> i wouldn't mind it at all. it wouldn't make any difference to me. >> a follow up on a question that a colleague asked. i want to follow up on jim's question. mr. president, let me follow up on jim's question that i don't think he got an answer to. >> laura: no collusion there. the president, though, he wasn't rattled by the storm. he gave his own kind of instant
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review of these last-minute theatrics. >> it's a very tough situation for a woman. there is no question about it. i would like to hear a story. we are giving your time. they will have a big shot at speaking and making the case. you know what? i could be persuaded also. i think when you really look at it all, it's not going to change any of the democrats' minds. they are obstructionists. they are actually con artists because they know how quality this man is and may have destroyed a man's reputation and they want to destroy it even more. they know it's a big, fat con job, and they go into a room, and i guarantee you, they laugh like hell on what they pulled off on you and the public. they laugh like hell. >> laura: i thoroughly enjoyed the press conference at the u.n. the entire allegation act is getting old for the last minute solos are not credible in the reporters scores from a falling
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flat. my production, after all the hype, after a bright lights, all of it has faded, after we have heard from the left about the kavanaugh takedown effort, all of it, this production will close out of town, a total flop. despite health hysteria, kavanaugh will finally get the featured role he deserves, and he's prepared for it his entire life. a seed of the supreme court of united states. i have two words. life tenure. that's "the angle." joining me now, onside, gail trotter, spokesperson for the judicial crisis network ansonia, president of the national organization of women's new york city chapter. great to have you both on tonight. i want to start with you, sonja. we have seen these late in the game dried by hits on kavanaugh's character and reputation, so is it not fair to inquire, as politico did
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and other news organizations denied, about the character and reputation of the accuser? speak of accusers aren't up for a lifetime position on the supreme court. we can talk about this all day long amongst us and on every television station but what we need our experts. we need an investigation. there are so many people that are involved in these circles. that is the only way we are really going to get to the truth. and in terms of what you talked about, there is no corroboration, there absolutely is. >> laura: really? what is the corroboration? let start with the most recent, the anonymous death will get to come out just laughable. i just want to be clarified so everybody can understand. what you are saying, a woman can make any allegation against a man late in the process like this, with no contemporaneous corroboration, and not be subjected herself to scrutiny
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for motives or character -- >> i think that's exactly -- >> laura: my question is a serious one. you are saying a drive-by hit late in the question come after the confirmation is over, after these allegations have been set up on, you cannot question him? >> you're calling it a drive-by hit. that is already happening, their characters are being -- >> laura: politico. is that part of the right-wing conspiracy? >> please. what we need to do is have an investigation. >> laura: you are saying anyone who makes an allegation, no matter what, that allegation has to be investigated by the fbi? are you kidding me? >> when a person is up for the supreme court -- >> laura: any allegation? >> absolutely. >> laura: we are making progress. that's feminism today. fantastic. >> i think the truth is far left partisans led by chuck schumer bowed before judge kavanaugh's name was even released that they were to stop this confirmation by any means necessary. we are seeing these far left
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partisans think the means are addressed -- the ends are justified by the means and so they are going to do anything, anything to engage in assassination of judge kavanaugh's character. >> ladies are you suggesting that the democratic party or operatives went out and recruited these women and they sat around a table and they said, okay, you will say this, and you will like him and i know you've got a life and a job, and kids, but we are going to blow it all up because -- >> laura: they were calling around. they were calling around! >> debbie ramirez was speaking with lawyers for six days until she decided she wasn't sure enough. >> laura: let's read more about this latest acquisition, because michael avenatti is the gold standard of credibility. you can never question him. another person you can never question. she filed a sexual harassment complaint against her former employer -- a "new york times" piece tonight, about a decade ago. up against new york life insurance. okay. sexual harassment complaint. that is fine. according to people familiar with the matter, representing her in the complaint was the
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firm run by -- wait for it -- debra katz, the lawyer currently representing dr. ford. is that a coincidence? >> who knows. if she's an expert in workplace sexual harassment, you know what i think we should be asking is why doesn't mark judge -- why isn't he subpoenaed? >> laura: a talking point is so lame. who cares about mark judge! there is no corroboration -- >> you are so interested in these women -- >> laura: give me one contemporaneous witness. all the people in the room. >> we need a full investigation. >> it's really important to kno know. >> laura: this has nothing to do with his qualifications. you probably don't even believe these allegations. you really believe any of these allegations against him? >> you know what i believe? i would like to know the facts and the only way to get to them -- >> laura: you wouldn't support him anyway. >> that's beside the point. >> laura: you don't care about the facts. you want him off the court. >> come on!
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>> laura: the fifth of road on the court, roe vs. wade, the national organization for women -- god bless you -- is about roe vs. wade, identity politics, and if this is femini, no wonder so few women want to identify themselves as feminists because every man is guilty, guilty as charged, your reputation is down the tube. >> you are being so unfair. >> laura: most american women see through these late in the game hit jobs. yes, they do. they are calling b.s. on this. you know it. let's talk about -- >> there are so many -- there are three of us right here in this room -- four of us by the likelihood of that one of us has been sexually assaulted is very much a possibility because those are the statistics. sexual assault is a real proble problem! >> laura: i agree, 100%. >> you are -- the uncorroborated claims. how much does that affect -- >> we don't know that yet. >> we don't know where they took place, we don't know when they
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took place, we do know that people that they identified, and all of them deny any recollection. >> laura: sonia, i have a question -- >> she was talking about this to her therapist in 2012 -- >> laura: if i hear the therapist then, i will need a therapist. where the notes? guess what, there are no notes. she did in the deliver her notes. you know why? i think the therapist was like the acme therapist. a big fly. like, lie, lie. >> that is why we need a real investigation. >> laura: i want an investigation of what brian fallon, former hillary clinton operative, revealed to keep the supreme court of cavanagh's hands until 2020 come out of drum sand. he said the following "saving the supreme court from trump's clutches is always involved a very two step, first, block cabinet and fight like hell to win back the senate. if cavanagh drops out, we are
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first halfway there. if democrats are able to win the senate, we have a path of dropping trump and taking any of the arch conservatives on the short left." this is been a plant in the beginning. debra katz has been a member of the resistance. george soros' paws are all over this. they're not busting people into town to play tiddlywinks, they are busting people into town to smear a good man. and that is unfair. i think it's it it's to service to women. i've known him for 28 years, thank you very much. he's a great -- he is not a good man, he's a great man. he's not perfect, sure he had a few beers, i'm sure all of us had some beers in college. but to say someone has done this with zero cooperation is an outrage. >> this is why women do not report the sexual assault. this is why so few women reported. because this is the treatment -- >> laura: if you know what happened nine times, would you go back to that same party? what kind of person, what kind of woman doesn't say, i want to protect my sisters out there? i want to protect the young girls in high school who are
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being lined up, apparently, to be raped, i will put myself in jeopardy. that -- as a woman, we should say -- >> i have spoken to a lot of people, when i was -- >> what about her lawyer? any lawyer has a duty of obligation to their client, and she didn't go to law enforcement. so if you think -- >> laura: women have to protect other women. guys, we are running away. women have to protect other women. i think you are right. sexual assault is really serious. we have to take it seriously. we have to treat it seriously. but it's unfair to men and women -- >> than why are you calling it a drive i had? you don't know that, laura. >> laura: because they had an entire confirmation process where they could have brought up these allegations and dianne feinstein's out on them because you know is going to be damaging. you wouldn't do it. >> by russia at?
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>> laura: we'll let you have the last word. >> we need to have an investigation. >> laura: thanks, you two. judging by their actions, you would think the democrats don't really want dr. ford to testify, i don't operate as if we noted earlier this afternoon, all fiduciary committee sent a letter to president trump telling him to withdraw kavanaugh's nomination. in a few hours ago, dianne feinstein urged chairman grassley to postpone tomorrow's hearing altogether. i protected that what happened last night. you really can't make this up, folks. here to analyze it all, former federal prosecutor, fox news contributor, andy mccarthy. andy, for the record, we think sexual assault is a serious problem. i thought it was serious when juanita broaddrick said that she was raped by bill clinton and we didn't get support from feminist back then. i think is important now. i think what has been done to brett kavanaugh is one of the all-time travesties in american politics. it's despicable, it's a disgrace, and he's going to get confirmed and there is no asterisk next to his name. i'm sorry. no way.
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andy? i'm smoking over this. i'm really, really mad about what's happening! >> is going to be like clarence thomas all over again. there is no asterix once he gets on the court, which he deserves beyond. if you think about it, laura, there's no many has more information that has been given to the senate about him, they have more ability to exercise, advise and consent to make a discriminating appraisal about his qualifications than any nominee in the history of the united states. what they did here is exactly what you described. they sat on these allegations, they abuse the process, and they were permitted to do it. and the minute that you start to give delay to people who are seeking delay, you get more delay and more problems and that is why we are where we are now. >> laura: andy, avenatti was on cnn with chris cuomo tonight, and he again said he wants an investigation but then he kind
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of contradicted himself. let's listen. >> we want the fbi involved immediately to vet these allegations, to take interviews with all of the, including mark george, including brett kavanaugh. i don't believe we could take her to the fbi because i don't think the fbi would have jurisdiction over her claims of abuse or inappropriate conduct as planned or stated in the declaration. >> laura: i don't think it's got enough sleep. take her to the fbi, i'm not following this. everyone is hanging on the fbi. explain, with all of the work that you have done in prosecutions in new york, big, big trials, how does this all work? >> this is a background investigation, laura. it's not a criminal investigation, it's not a counterintelligence investigation like we've been talking about for a couple of years. the fbi ordinarily doesn't have jurisdiction to investigate
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state law crimes like assault and these kinds of abusers. what they do is, when the senate has to exercise advice and consent, they help that process by venting the candidates and bringing to the senate 's attention information that they discovered during the course of that kind of investigation. it's not a full-blown criminal investigation. a confirmation hearing is not a trial. the idea is, get enough information so that they can make a responsible decision about whether to approve his nomination or not. if they don't think that they can approve it, they should not approve it. but it's not a trial, and the idea that the fbi can breathe life into an investigation that the state is already themselves wouldn't do, because it is so time-barred and so stale, that it would be improper under the u.s. constitution. forget about the state statute of limitations. there is no state that we do
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this kind of investigation, and the bureau doesn't, by having background investigations, get to do something and what i nor ordinarily do. >> laura: not going to happen. thank you so much. up against a hard break. polygraph mania hits washington. we'll get to it.
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>> laura: oh, goody. dr. chrisitine blasey ford's legal team finally turned over polygraph results of the senate judiciary committee, and given what we sow, not sure it will help our case much. first the questions consisted of the following. number one, as any part of your written statement falls? number two, did you make an evening of? that's it. well, not only was that it, they didn't have any specific questions about the specific charges. further, the statements she submitted had multiple edits and
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contradictions. for instance, the letter says four boys and a couple of girls were at the party but her letter to feinstein says "me and four others were there." lovely grammar. even for an on scientific polygraph, this is very lame. here to react as thomas mariella, former polygraph expert at the dod. okay, you have to unpack this. i'm no expert but it seems like, what, it seems like it was done by one of the democrats on that committee. what are the problems? >> for the polygraph to be somewhat valid, eight polygraph test, it needs to be a single issue test. in the examiner's very first polygraph, he says the examination was to address whether blasey ford was physically assaulted by brett kavanaugh while attending a small party in montgomery county, maryland. that is the question. that is the question that should
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have been asked, when he asked her questions about the letter, that letter has multiple issues in it. when you say, you know, you have been truthful to this letter, well, the letter itself doesn't have any specificity. it says, four boys interview girls. what is if you mean? is unbelievable. >> laura: this was actually raised. this very issue was raised tonight on cnn. let's watch. >> professor ford's written account about what happened, which included in the polygraph report, she claims there were four quote girls and a couple os at a party. that is different that her letter from this letter to senator feinstein, it included four her and four others. as our discrepancy important? >> i don't know what dr. ford has had prior. my total communication with dr. ford was quickly the hour and half, two hours in the
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polygraph. i don't know what you said before, as a former fbi agent, i don't think that's a huge discrepancy. >> laura: not a problem? discrepancy or not? >> it is. we also don't know what the polygraph examiner said to professor ford prior to that, during the pretest. the bottom line is, the question has to be very specific. this was a simple thing. it did brett kavanaugh sexually assault her? yes or no? it was a very simple test and he lost it by using the letter as the issue. he calls the statement the issu issue. welcome of the statement has multiple issues from the location, how many people were there, whether it was mark or brett -- >> laura: what you are sick, they need to go chapter and verse down each allegation to make it somewhat youthful, i
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think we all understand that now. i i was done by the writing of the handwritten statement. eighth grade writing. i'm sorry. we are out of time. thank you for that analysis. the latest. hail mary turned, senator jeff merkley will's says that he is seeking injunction in court, asserting an obstruction of constitutional duty to advise and consent of nominees. writing is now, constitutional law attorney jonathan turley, just flew here, ran into the studio. "washington examiner" contributed by written york. mr. jonathan turley, i'm glad you made it, number one. talk about that merkley claim. >> is completely, utterly meritless. it won't last very long and quiet. there are cases that have been dismissed along the same lines that were actually stronger. this one doesn't even reach any level of possibility for a federal judge.
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it will be dismissed relatively quickly. to speak when he says this is about the documents. because a constitutional responsibility is to review them as record and we can't do it if we are blocked by the white house. >> the courts don't afford that service. so this really doesn't pass that test for most judges. >> laura: vibrant, tonight, two more accusations surfaced. another network they were like, five accusers, making it look like it's a huge storm of women coming out. two anonymous, 12 cory gardner singable men and her daughter saw brett kavanaugh in '98 outside a restaurant push a woman in a sexually suggestive way against a wall or something. and then someone, a rhode island senator, saying something else, the guy was a nut job. this is what is being called an accusation. no name, by the way, return address, on the accusation. >> the whole issue at the beginning of this, when there is just one accusation against brett kavanaugh from christine ford, was that it was just one
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accusation. when you look at all the notorious me too cases, they were all a pattern of behavior. it's not as if charlie rose was alleged to have been abusive toward just what mentor harvey weinstein just woman, or any of them, they were all a pattern, they could do it over and over and over, and brett kavanaugh's defenders were saying, we've got just this one. now you have a number of additional obligations, some of them beyond flimsy. it does allow the democrats to say we have this long line, they must be investigated. >> laura: tonight, elana schorr, a senate democrat aide tweeted, "senior center that my credit aide tells her that there is a concern that the g.o.p. is now releasing anonymous allegations in an effort to make all allegations look frivolous. we are focusing on the ones that have names attached." now, turley, we have senate
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democrats calling the republicans a false flag allegation with the last two. that is where we are afraid to this is becoming more and more bizarre. the most important thing for the community to do is to articulate a standard of review. in fact for for a mers are sayg very opposite. i have a column in "the hill" talking about what that standard might be, they should apply something similar to a clear preponderance of the evidence. something that is higher than just preponderance, lower than beyond a reasonable doubt. but what worries me is that these members have been really working the airwaves to say, this is all politics, we are not a court of law. and that is too easy. there are two people who are going to have one heck of a day in front of that committee. their lives, their reputations are at stake. the senators deserve -- they deserve, and the senators should be obligated, to afford them some sense of how they will review the evidence. that is what we don't have here. so what worries me is you have the senators and, i will
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consider how he abused the constitution and others say, i just believe her even before i hear her testimony. >> laura: i saw mazie hirono, byron, said that his jurisprudence makes it more likely -- i believe she said makes it more likely that he did these things. that was one of the wilder things i've ever heard. >> yes, she said i believe he is wrong about this or that constitutional doctrine, therefore, i believe that he sexually assaulted a teenage girl in 1982. it made absolutely no sense. as far as the questioning tomorrow, we don't really know about what the prosecutor hired to do the questioning is really going to be saying because a number of the public and members of the committee are kind of afraid to go in front of this issue. >> laura: i like south wilkinson, kavanaugh's attorney. she was on "special report." i would've liked to have seen her ask those questions.
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both of you, thanks so much. we are less than 12 hours a day from tomorrow's monumental senate hearing. raymond arroyo is here next to tell us how style performance may play a larger role for some than actual substance and how hollywood is jumping in on the act. "seen and unseen" is next.
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>> laura: it's time for our "seen and unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. culture meets politics. but what does brett kavanaugh have to accomplish at tomorrow's hearing, and how might a smile mean more than anything he actually says? joining us now with more as raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, best seller of the will wilder series. >> this is not your traditional hearing, not an evidentiary trial, or a judicial hearing. this is a credibility contest between brett kavanaugh and his accuser, dr. ford. i consulted and i shaped speeches, close to people over the years, i was an actor, director. this. this sensibility, people are
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going to judge what we see tomorrow on the hill by emotions and instincts more than content. i watch martha maccallum's interview the other day with brett kavanaugh. i want to share this with the audience. you watch this, and we'll draw some lessons that he might need to watch. >> i am looking for a fair process, a process where i can defend my integrity, and clear my name. i've never sexually assaulted anyone, not in high school, not ever. >> laura: i would not use their language. i would not use the lefts accusation, "i'm not a cook," -- i didn't do anything approaching that. it's an outrage that my rare mutation -- i think you got to bring the juice a little bit. it's too flat. >> this is a little programmati programmatic. people are looking for him to be indignant, and he has to be
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empathetic toward his accuser. look at this, this is another difficulty i hope he doesn't repeat this tomorrow. watch. >> while i'm asking for is a fair process where i can be heard. i've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or otherwise. again, i'm just asking for a fair process where i can be heard and defend my integrity. i've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or at any time. >> repeating the same or hearst blinds will not work. he has to show a little of himself. he has to show a little indignation. i think great. >> laura: he has at. >> we demonstrated it in one moment with martha. i want to show you, when she asks about the rape allegations, the gang-rape allegations. he got hot under the collar. it's because that is totally false and outrageous, i have nee anything such thing, never known about any such thing. when i was in high school and i went to an all boys catholic high school, a jesuit
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high school, where i was focused on academics and athletics. >> he went on to explain his case. you saw a little of the grit and fire. the camera picks up the things in between the lines, laura. that is how we judge people when we see them on tv. that is going to be a big determiner here. it is going to be how do people receive him. it's about character. >> laura: what about her? >> she's got the same bar. >> laura: she's going to cry. >> we know what they are going to say, the statements have been released, it's all about objects and theatrics and i think democrats are going to try to -- >> laura: they are going to try to put them back -- >> republicans will defer -- >> laura: i know he's a judge so he's not like us. we both like the dies these people. he's more judicious and kind. >> now was the moment to show -- he has to be saddened by the spectacle. >> laura: justice thomas did it right. this is a fraud, there is a high-tech lynching -- it was great. that will knock it for him. if you don't fight for it, people are like, --
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>> these allegations are false, you better be ticked off right hollywood is not taking sides in the capital fight waited an online sensation that got very little attention this week, a list of stars staged a walkout to show their support -- >> laura: keep walking. organized by time's up, they were black, and they walked out at their place in a silent protest against kavanaugh. debra messing, kerry washington, samantha bee, all left their workplaces to join this movement, as did actress and reem are this is her recording, her group walked out. you thinner show appropriately called "shameless close by those in which he said at the end of this video. >> believed women. thank you! >> believed women. it was #believewomen. >> laura: paula jones didn't get any louis freeh >> but if i said believe men? if their charges are seen as creditable and if you are
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corroborating -- >> laura: i don't believe that. anyone making any charge, the uva frat rape charges, all that is missed. >> why why does dex tell us ang about truthfulness? >> laura: mayor bubbleheaded celebrities. this is not what they do. they think they were black, jimmy kimmel, what is going on. a big democratic fund-raiser the other night in l.a. where he disclosed with any semblance of balance. watch. >> a late night talk show host, the prevailing witness was, don't take a site, you your audience. you make fun of everyone. i'm sure you know this, if you look around the channels, that wisdom is no longer prevailing. this is an emergency. we need to fight, we need to do everything in our power to repeal and replace congress. >> repeal and replace this
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congress. he basically said he doesn't give a darn about his audience. he will take a political side. you know my jimmy kimmel's ratings are at the bottom row? because of things like this. why drive your audience away? i liked him so much better when he was helping people win ben stein's money. >> laura: let me just say, there's nothing funny. >> he's not a comedian. he was never a comedian. >> laura: can we do holograms of carson? i want holograms of johnny carson and maybe a little early david letterman. any of the stuff -- guys, you are not funny. >> if you want to get into politics, run for office. >> laura: come to the table, jimmy. come sit right here. >> this "seen and unseen." >> laura: brett kavanaugh submitted his calendar showing his scheduling during the summer of 1982. very organized. one of the women named numerous times throughout the calendar influences next with her recollections. stay right there.
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with trying to disprove this as i think people are trying to put the burden on him is that it's very hard to disprove or even remember exactly what you did 36 years ago. that is one of the reasons why he provided his calendars in response to the senate judiciary committees request for all the documents. so they could at least see what he was doing that summer. >> laura: that was beth wilkinson, attorney for brett kavanaugh, summing up how impossible a task this is, develop an effective defense to charges that don't include a corroborating witness from 36 years ago. joining us now is someone with firsthand knowledge about these months. suzanne matin's list on my calendar and spent much of the summer of '82 with pals, including brett kavanaugh. thank you for being here. first, what was your relationship with brett? you are listed on june 6th, jun. [laughs] it says "suzanne." i guess that is you.
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do you remember? >> that is me. let's start with the fact that he kept a calendar. >> laura: [laughs] exactly. >> in high school, he kept a calendar and still has a today. that shows his level of organization, diligence, and yes. we were great friends in high school. >> laura: do remember seeing "grace 2" with brett on june 16th? this is like a time time capsule. >> not as great as "grease 1." >> laura: what you think about these allegations, these latest allegations from a woman named julie swetnick. we found out more about her tonight courtesy of "the new york times" and political. very litigious, used the same law firm that chrisitine blasey ford used, debra katz law firm, followings actual harassment claims, goddess element, restraining order, successfully filed against her by her former boyfriend. now these claims from avenatti's client, gang-rape, brett kavanaugh was like a ring girls up to get them lined up for
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me too. if that had occurred, you knew him well, would you have heard about that? >> it's impossible and outrageous. it is such a stretch to even like him to her. she was in college while we were in high school. we were a close meant private school community. she was in a public school 35 minutes away. >> laura: was there any cross-pollination with gaithersburg high school and he went to holy child, a great school, he went to prep, georgetown prep, did you guys hang out together, run in the same circles? >> not at all. >> laura: i thought it was weird for a college student to hang out with a bunch of high school students in beach week -- what happened at the beach week? i was always mowing lawns. you guys are the fancy people going to beach week. i didn't even know it beach week was in glastonbury connecticut. what was going on, a lot of drinking, partying? >> beach week is a tradition, at
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the end of the school year, we would go to the beach. brett's group was there with a chaperone, and we were down the road and with a chaperone, and e spent a lot of time hanging out then. it was actually very heartwarming to see my name in the calendar on that week because i remember it as a timeline brought that i spent a lot of time together and it really cemented our relationship as friends. >> laura: to this day. >> yeah, to this day. >> laura: msnbc was mocking the calendar today, suzanne. i will play a little clip. >> he has yet to say why he wouldn't want an fbi investigation. especially if his whole goal when he was a young man, as he says it, was to win all his varsity basketball games, be number one has in his class, and go to chapel, and do service projects. >> it's not like he is sitting back now. he's put others calendar as proof, which, i don't know what a smoking gun mayhap in there that they will show up but so far all that it shows his
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corroboration. >> laura: your thoughts? just sneering, media bias. >> like i said, the fact that he kept the calendar, and recorded things, not just about his social life, about his interviews with brown, yale. >> laura: did you ever see him purposely try to get girls drunk, loading them up with alcohol to take advantage of them? >> yet -- and all it's impossible. again, this is a guy that had ambitions back in high school. he loved his parents, he was respected -- he respected his mom, wanted to follow in her footsteps. he would never do anything to disappoint her or sabotages dreams. >> laura: suzanne, thank you so much. up next, the lessons of the kavanaugh -- that kavanaugh can take away from the president's press conference today. those highlights next and go on our facebook page and you will see the letter that susie and along with a lot of her friends
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supporting brett kavanaugh for tomorrow. while i was in the navy,
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i decided that i wanted to go
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for electrical engineering and you need to go to college for that. if i didn't have internet in the home i would have to give up more time with my kids. which is the main reason i left the military. everybody wants more for their kids, but i feel like with my kids, they measurably get more than i ever got. and i get to do that. i get to provide that for them.
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>> laura: still trying to get over beach week. what do you see from these past two weeks from the media, many of the democrats, is a disgraceful spectacle, meant to tear down a good man. as he approaches a fire tomorrow, he can take some lessons from how the president took on all comers today. >> the fbi told us they've investigated judge kavanaugh six times, five times, many times over the years. they know him very well. here there is nothing to investigate from at least one standpoint. they did another location, they didn't know the time, they did and of the year. they didn't know anything. it is like, where'd you go? >> are you saying that all three of those women are liars? is there anything that could be said tomorrow that could cause
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you to withdraw the nomination? anything at all? >> i won't get into that game. i will tell you this. this is one of the highest quality people that i've ever met. >> mr. president -- >> go ahead. >> mr. trump, you did and lets me ask my question. >> you been asking a question for 10 minutes. please sit down. go ahead. >> how did those impact your on the allegations? >> it does impact my opinion. you know why? i've had a lot of false charges made against me. how about just a couple -- i could be doing this all day long. i could be doing this all day long. or should we continue for a little while? it doesn't matter to me. a couple more? i don't care. "new york times," come on! the failing "new york times." to stand up. go ahead. this is a very big moment for our country because you have a man who is very outstanding but he's got very strong charges against him.
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probably charges that nobody is going to be able to be able to prove. someone could say 30 years ago, 25 years ago, ten years ago, five years ago, he did a horrible thing to me. he did this, he did that, he did that, and honestly, it's a very dangerous. period in our country. and it's being perpetrated by some very evil people. some of them are democrats, i must say, because some of them know that this is just a game that they are playing. it's a con game. it's at the highest level. we are talking about the united states supreme court. >> laura: my advice to the judge when we come back.
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the closer you get to home, the more you know the commute is worth it.
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you and that john deere tractor, you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home. it's a longer drive, but just like a john deere, it's worth it. >> laura: tomorrow is game day for judge kavanaugh. i hope we sleeping. if he's not, that is your fight. preserve the truth, your good name, your reputation, take on the frauds and my committee who
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are trying to twist this process and turn it into something it never should have been, a political circus. our country will be better off for it. stand and fight. it's the only way to win this. president trump tells us that and shows us that every day. i'll see you here tomorrow night. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team will take it from here with another fantastic show. >> shannon: thank you very much. we begin with a fox news alert. she is ready for tomorrow. that is according to lawyers for judge kavanaugh's accuser, professor chrisitine blasey ford. in hours, both kavanaugh and ford will testify before the senate judiciary committee as a seat in the supreme court hangs in the balance. tonight, new last-minute allegations. we'll break them down with the facts. senator lindsey graham will be questioning ford kavanaugh tomorrow is here tonight. we'll get the inside scoop from the polygraph expert who administered christine bassi for the test. who is rachel mitchell, the 6-gram prosecutor the g.o.p. has picked to interview ford and

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