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>> sean: in 41 days, rush is right, you have all the power. this is insanity. we'll always be fair ander balanced. let not your heart be troubled. laura is in the next studio. we will be back in d.c. tomorrow.. how are you? >> laura: i thought you were up in the rain. you can weather any storm. you are supposed to be up there. now you are in the cozy studio right next to me. >> sean: why are you being so mean? i just said laura is next, let not your heart be troubled, she has the latest, breaking news don't miss laura's show. then you trash me every night. y what is up without it? >> laura: sisterly-brotherly love. sean, great show tonight. you are buying the margaritas later. got to get ready for tomorrow's hearing. welcome to "the ingraham angle." i'm laura ingraham int washington. we are 12 hours away from one of the most anticipated senate hearings in history. kavanaugh and christine blasey ford will make their case in front of the committee, and an outside sex crimes prosecutor.
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we have every angle covered. you don't want to miss a moment. we will talk to a high schoolcu friend of brett kavanaugh who is mentioned prominently in theto calendar that he submitted ingh the 1980s to the judiciary committee today. she'll join me in studio. plus an examination of a very flimsy polygraph submission by dr. ford as well as as well as some last-minute stall tactics by democrats that may show them to be less confident than some would assume. what must kavanaugh accomplish at tomorrow's hearing and how might performance mean more than substance? raymond arroyo is here with some "seen and unseen" insights. but we begin with the accuser's last act.it that is the focus of tonight's "angle." >> i have opposed his nomination. >> from the beginning -- >> i've opposed it from the beginning. i think the nomination should be withdrawn.
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>> i strongly believe judgeos kavanaugh should withdraw from consideration. w and the president should withdraw this nomination if kavanaugh won't do it voluntarily. >> i join leader schumer in calling for judge kavanaugh to withdraw his name from consideration. >> laura: shocker. we told you this was going to happen. the longer the republicans allow brett kavanaugh to twist in the wind, the more concessions they granted to his last-minute accusers, the uglier it is going to get. you know in musicals, the 11:00 number always arrives right on time to close at the show? well, the 11:00 number in the kavanaugh confirmation saga has arrived. [drumroll] oh, he looks adorable on that stage. michael avenatti delivers a gift today.n he drafted an affidavit in which this woman, julie swetnick gillette, claims that kavanaugh
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while he was high school student in the early '80s, spiked drinks at house parties to loosen girls inhibitions are then essentially groomed them to be gang raped inside rooms. he further alleges that kavanaugh was present at one such party in approximately 1982 when she was gang raped, though she says he didn't take part in it. swetnick claims there are witnesses that can vouch for her account. we haven't heard from them. reacting to those outrageous charges, kavanaugh said the following. "this is ridiculous and from "the twilight zone." i don't know who this is and this never happened."ho now this is the third in a series of what certainly appears to be a carefully timed and coordinated smear campaign on kavanaugh. first there was christine blasey ford, who is still scheduled, as i said, to testify tomorrow morning before the senate judiciary committee. exactly no one has corroborated her claims and the polygraph
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test that she submitted to the judiciary committee today, it reads like it was conducted by cory booker. we have more on that in a fewju moments. then from state for the love came social justice advocate deborah ramirez, who claimed that kavanaugh exposed himself to her during their freshman year at yale. ramirez may have exposed the holes in her own story by admitting that she couldn't be sure if kavanaugh was the guilty party.to there are no corroborating witnesses. kavanaugh has denied that it happened and ramirez herself admits to being bummed, slurring her words of the time, and she conceded that her memory was "foggy." then today, we saw a newha addition to the playbill. ms. swetnick. now like the other two heroines of the anti-kavanaugh resistance, her allegations are already getting bad reviews. she says she attended at least
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ten parties where gang-rapesay were taking place. she also said she went back to one such party in approximately 1982 after knowing that these be these gang rapes were taking place, where then she herself was raped. it's important to note in 1982 she was a sophomore in college. how many college students do you know who attend high school functions where gang-rapes had previously occurred? none of it makes much sense at all. but this does. tonight we are learning a lot more about avenatti's new prize ms. swetnick. according to "politico," her ex-boyfriend paints a disturbing picture of her own character. in a phone interview with "politico," he said this about his 2001 injunction. "right after i broke up with her, swetnick, she was threatening my family, my wife threatening to do harm to my baby at that time.
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i know a lot about her. she's not credible at all." he said not at all. wow. despite all of that, of course the media today did what they always do, try to make president trump out to the bad guy in all of this this.wa another choreographed performance. >> if you don't mind, after i am finished, if one of our female colleagues could go after me that would be great for great. >> what does that mean? >> it would be great if a female -- >> what does that mean? >> i think it would be great if a female reporter would ask you a question about this issue. if you don't mind -- >> i wouldn't mind it at all. m it wouldn't make any difference to me. >> a follow up on a question that a colleague asked. i want to follow up on jim's's question. a mr. president, let me follow up on jim's question that i don't think he got an answer to. >> laura: no collusion there. the president, though, he wasn't rattled by the storm. he gave his own kind of instant review of these last-minute theatrics.
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>> it's a very tough situation for a woman. there is no question about it. i would like to hear her story. we are giving her time. they will have a big shot at speaking and making the case. you know what? i could be persuaded also. i think when you really look at it all, it's not going to change any of the democrats' minds. they are obstructionists. they are actually con artists because they know how quality this man is and may have destroyed a man's reputation and they want to destroy it evenn' more. they know it's a big, fat con job, and they go into a room and i guarantee you, they laugh like hell on what they pulled off on you and the public. they laugh like hell. >> laura: i thoroughly enjoyed the press conference at the u.n. the entire allegation act is getting old.he the last minute solos are not credible and the reporters' scores, falling flat. my prediction, after all the
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hype, after all the bright lights, all of it has faded after we have heard from the left about the kavanaugh takedown effort, all of it, thim production will close out of town, a total flop. despite all the hysteria kavanaugh will finally get the featured role he deserves, and he's prepared for it his entire life. a seat on the supreme court of united states. i have two words. h life tenure. that's "the angle." joining me now, onside, gayle trotter, spokesperson for theth judicial crisis network and sonia ossorio, president of the national organization of women's new york city chapter. great to have you both on tonight. i want to start with you, sonia. we have seen these late in the game drive-by hits on kavanaugh's character and reputation, so is it not fair to inquire, as politico did and
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other news organizations tonight, about the character and reputation of the accuser? >> the accusers aren't up for a lifetime position on the supreme court. we can talk about this all day long amongst us and on every television station but what we need are experts. we need an investigation. there are so many people that are involved in these circles. that is the only way we are really going to get to the truth. and in terms of what you talked about, there is no corroboration, there absolutely is. >> laura: really? what is the corroboration? let start with the most recent the anonymous stuff we'll get to, which is laughable. i just want to be clarified so everybody can understand. what you are saying, a woman can make any allegation against a man late in the process like this, with no contemporaneous corroboration, and not be subjected herself to scrutiny for motives or character --
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>> i think that's exactly -- >> laura: my question is a serious one. you are saying a drive-by hit late in the question, after the confirmation is over, after these allegations have been set up on, you cannot question him? >> you're calling it a drive-by hit. that is already happening, their characters are being -- >> laura: politico. is that part of the right-wing conspiracy? >> please. what we need to do is have an investigation. >> laura: you are saying anyone who makes an allegation no matter what, that allegation has to be investigated by the fbi?i? are you kidding me? >> when a person is up for the supreme court -- >> laura: any allegation? >> absolutely. >> laura: we are making progress. that's feminism today. fantastic. >> i think the truth is far left partisans led by chuck schumer vowed before judge kavanaugh's name was even released that they were to stop this confirmation by any means necessary. we are seeing these far left partisans think the means are addressed -- the ends are justified by the means and so
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they are going to do anything anything to engage in assassination of judge kavanaugh's character. >> ladies, are you suggesting that the democratic party or operatives went out and recruited these women and they sat around a table and they said, okay, you will say thist and you will lie, and i know you've got a life and a job, and kids, but we are going to blow it all up because -- >> laura: they were calling around. they were calling around! >> debbie ramirez was speaking with lawyers for six days until she decided she wasn't sure enough. >> laura: let's read more about this latest accusation because michael avenatti is thee gold standard of credibility.t you can never question him. another person you can never question.s she filed a sexual harassment complaint against her former employer -- a "new york times" piece tonight, about a decade ago. against new york life insurance. okay. sexual harassment complaint. that is fine. according to people familiar with the matter, representing her in the complaint was the firm run by -- wait for it --
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debra katz, the lawyer currently representing dr. ford. is that a coincidence? >> who knows. if she's an expert in workplace sexual harassment -- you know what i think we should be asking is why doesn't mark judge -- whu isn't he subpoenaed? >> laura: a talking point is so lame. who cares about mark judge! there is no corroboration -- >> you are so interested in these women -- >> laura: give me one contemporaneous witness. all the people in the room. >> we need a full investigation. >> it's really important to know. >> laura: this has nothing to do with his qualifications.kn you probably don't even believe these allegations. you really believe any of these allegations against him? >> you know what i believe? i would like to know the facts and the only way to get to b them -- >> laura: you wouldn't support him anyway. >> that's beside the point. >> laura: you don't care about the facts. you want him off the court. >> come on! >> laura: the fifth vote on the court, roe vs. wade, the
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national organization for women -- god bless you -- r is about roe, identity politics and if this is feminism today no wonder so few women want to identify themselves as feminists because every man is guilty guilty as charged, your reputation is down the tube. >> you are being so unfair. >> laura: most american women see through these late in the game hit jobs. yes, they do. they are calling b.s. on this. you know it. let's talk about -- >> there are so many -- there are three of us right here inn this room -- four of us. the likelihood of that one of us has been sexually assaulted is very much a possibility because those are the statistics. sexual assault is a realos problem! >> laura: i agree, 100%. >> you are -- the uncorroborated claims. how much does that affect -- >> we don't know that yet. >> we don't know where they took place, we don't know when they took place, we do know that
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people that they identified, and all of them deny any recollection. >> laura: sonia, i have a question -- >> she was talking about this to her therapist in 2012 -- >> laura: if i hear "the therapist" then i will need a therapist. where are the notes? guess what, there are no notes. she didn't the deliver her notes. you know why? i think the therapist was like the acme therapist. a big lie. lie, lie, lie. >> that is why we need a real investigation. >> laura: i want an investigation of what brian fallon, former hillary clinton operative, revealed to keep the supreme court of kavanaughs's hands until 2020, out of trump's hands. he said the following "saving the supreme court from trump's clutches has always involved a very two step, first, block kavanaugh and fight like hell to win back the senate. if kavanaugh drops out, we are first halfway there. l if democrats are able to win the
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senate, we have a path of dropping trump and taking any of the arch conservatives on the short left." this is been a plant in the beginning. debra katz has been a member of the resistance. george soros' paws are all over this. they're not busting people into town to play tiddlywinks, theyey are busting people into town to smear a good man. and that is unfair. i think it's a disservice to women. i've known him for 28 years thank you very much. he's a great -- he is not a good man, he's a great man. he's not perfect, sure, he had a few beers, i'm sure all of us had some beers in college. but to say someone has done this with zero corroboration is an outrage. >> this is why women do not report sexual assault. this is why so few women report it. d because this is the treatment -- >> laura: if you know what happened nine times, would you go back to that same party? what kind of person, what kindac of woman doesn't say, i want to protect my sisters out there? i want to protect the young girls in high school who are t being lined up, apparently, to
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be raped, i will put myself in jeopardy. that -- as a woman, we should say -- >> i have spoken to a lot of people, when i was -- >> what about her lawyer? any lawyer has a duty of obligation to their client, and she didn't go to law enforcement. so if you think -- >> laura: women have to protect other women. guys, we are running away. women have to protect other women. i think you are right. sexual assault is really serious. we have to take it seriously. we have to treat it seriously. but it's unfair to men and women -- >> than why are you calling it a drive-by hit? you don't know that, laura. >> laura: because they had an entire confirmation process where they could have brought up these allegations and dianne feinstein sat on them because she know it was going to be damaging. you wouldn't do it. >> why rush it? >> laura: we'll let you have the last word.
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>> we need to have an investigation. >> laura: thanks, you two. judging by their actions, you would think the democrats don't really want dr. ford to testify i don't know. as we noted earlier this afternoon, the judiciary committee sent a letter to president trump telling him to withdraw kavanaugh's nomination. then a few hours ago dianne feinstein urged chairman grassley to postpone tomorrow's hearing altogether. i predicted that would happened last night. you really can't make this up folks.s. here to analyze it all, former federal prosecutor, fox news contributor, andy mccarthy. andy, for the record, we think sexual assault is a serious problem. i thought it was serious when juanita broaddrick said that she was raped by bill clinton and we didn't get support from feminists back then. i think is important now. i think what has been done to brett kavanaugh is one of the all-time travesties in americano politics. it's despicable, it's a disgrace, and he's going to get confirmed and there is no asterisk next to his name. i'm sorry. no way. andy? i'm smoking over this.
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i'm really, really mad about what's happening! >> it's going to be like clarence thomas all over again. there is no asterisk once he gets on the court, which he deserves to be on.en if you think about it, laura there's no many has more information that has been given to the senate about him, they have more ability to exercise advise and consent to make a discriminating appraisal about his qualifications than any nominee in the history of the united states. what they did here is exactly what you described. they sat on these allegations they abuse the process, and they were permitted to do it. and the minute that you start to give delay to people who are seeking delay, you get more delay and more problems and that is why we are where we are now. >> laura: andy, avenatti was on cnn with chris cuomo tonight and he again said he wants an investigation but then he kind of contradicted himself. let's listen.
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>> we want the fbi involved immediately to vet these allegations, to take interviews with all of the, including mark judge, including brett kavanaugh. i don't believe we could take her to the fbi because i don't think the fbi would have jurisdiction over her claims of abuse or inappropriate sexual h conduct as planned or stated in the declaration. >> laura: i don't think he's got enough sleep. take her to the fbi, i'm not following this. everyone is hanging on the fbi. explain, with all of the work that you have done in prosecutions in new york, big big trials, how does this all work? >> this is a background investigation, laura. it's not a criminal investigation, it's not a counterintelligence investigation like we've been talking about for a couple of years. the fbi ordinarily doesn't have jurisdiction to investigate state law crimes like assault
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and these kinds of sexual abuses.es what they do is, when the senate has to exercise advice and consent, they help that process by vetting the candidates and bringing to the senate'sti attention information that they discovered during the course of that kind of investigation. it's not a full-blown criminal investigation. a confirmation hearing is not a trial. the idea is, get enoughig information so that they can make a responsible decisionug about whether to approve this nomination or not. if they don't think that theyib can approve it, they should not approve it. but it's not a trial, and the idea that the fbi can breathe life into an investigation that the state already themselves wouldn't do, because it is soo i time-barred and so stale, that it would be improper under the u.s. constitution. forget about the state statute of limitations. there is no state that we do this kind of investigation, and
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>> laura: oh, goody. dr. chrisitine blasey ford's legal team finally turned over her polygraph results to the senate judiciary committee, and given what we saw, not sure itdr will help our case much. first the questions consisted of the following. number one, is any part of your written statement false? number two, did you make any of it up? that's it. well, not only was that it, they didn't have any specific questions about the specific charges. further, the statements she submitted had multiple edits and contradictions. for instance, the letter says
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four boys and a couple of girls were at the party but her lettey to feinstein says "me and four others were there." lovely grammar. even for an unscientificly polygraph, this is very lame. here to react is thomas mauriello, former polygraph expert at the dod. okay, you have to unpack this. i'm no expert but it seems like what, it seems like it was done by one of the democrats on that committee.er what are the problems? >> for the polygraph to be somewhat valid, a polygraph test, it needs to be a single issue test. in the examiner's very first polygraph, he says the examination was to address whether blasey was physically assaulted by brett kavanaugh while attending a small party in montgomery county, maryland. that is the question. that is the question that should have been asked, when he asked
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her questions about the letter that letter has multiple issues in it. q when you say, you know, you have been truthful to this letter well, the letter itself doesn't have any specificity. it says, four boys and a few girls. what does a few mean? it's unbelievable. >> laura: this was actually raised. this very issue was raised tonight on cnn. let's watch. >> professor ford's written account about what happened which included in the polygraph report, she claims there were four girls and a couple of boys at a party. that is different that her letter from this letter to senator feinstein, it included her and four others. as our discrepancy important? >> i don't know what dr. ford has had prior. my total communication with dr. ford was quickly the hour and half, two hours in the polygraph. i don't know what she said before, as a former fbi agent, i
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don't think that's a huge discrepancy.t >> laura: not a problem?nk discrepancy or not? >> it is. we also don't know what the polygraph examiner said to professor ford prior to that during the pretest. the bottom line is, the question has to be very specific. this was a simple thing. it did brett kavanaugh sexually assault her? yes or no? it was a very simple test and he lost it by using the letter as the issue. he calls the statement the issue. well, the statement has multiple issues from the location, how many people were there, whether it was mark or brett -- >> laura: what you are saying they need to go chapter and verse down each allegation to make it somewhat useful, i think we all understand that now. i was done by the writing of the
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handwritten statement.y eighth grade writing. i'm sorry. we are out of time. thank you for that analysis. the latest hail mary attempt senator jeff merkley will says that he is seeking an injunction in court, asserting an obstruction of constitutional duty to advise and consent on nominees. joining us now, constitutionalon law attorney jonathan turley just flew here, ran into the studio. "washington examiner"n contributor byron york. mr. turley, i'm glad you made it, number one. talk about that merkley claim. >> it's completely, utterly meritless. it won't last very long in court. there are cases that have been dismissed along the same lines that were actually stronger. this one doesn't even reach any level of plausibility for a federal judge.
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it will be dismissed relatively quickly. >> laura: he says this is about the documents. because the constitutional responsibility is to review them as record and we can't do it if we are blocked by the d white house.a >> the courts don't afford that service. so this really doesn't pass that test for most judges. >> laura: byron, tonight, two more accusations surfaced. at other networks they were like, five accusers, making it look like it's a huge storm of women coming out. two anonymous, one to cory gardner singable men and her daughter saw brett kavanaugh in '98 outside a restaurant push a woman in a sexually suggestive way against a wall or something. and then someone, a rhode island senator, saying something else the guy was a nut job. this is what is being called an accusation. no name, by the way, return address, on the accusation. >> the whole issue at the beginning of this, when there was just one accusation against brett kavanaugh from christine ford, was that it was just one accusation.
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when you look at all the notorious me too cases, they were all a pattern of behavior. it's not as if charlie rose was alleged to have been abusive toward just what mentor harvey weinstein just woman, or any of them, they were all a patternto they could do it over and over and over, and brett kavanaugh's defenders were saying, we've got just this one. now you have a number of additional obligations, some of them beyond flimsy., it does allow the democrats to say we have this long line, they must be investigated.. >> laura: tonight, elana schor, a senate democrat aide tweeted, "senior senator dem aide tells her that there is a concern that the g.o.p. is now releasing anonymous allegations in an effort to make all allegations look frivolous. we are focusing on the ones that have names attached." now, turley, we have senatees democrats calling the republicans a false flag allegation with the last two.
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that is where we are. this is becoming more and morels bizarre. the most important thing for the community to do is to articulate a standard of review. in fact, some members are sayint very opposite.ew i have a column in "the hill" talking about what that standary might be, they should apply something similar to a clear " preponderance of the evidence. something that is higher than just preponderance, lower than beyond a reasonable doubt. but what worries me is that these members have been really working the airwaves to say this is all politics, we are not a court of law. and that is too easy. there are two people who are going to have one heck of a day in front of that committee. their lives, their reputations are at stake. the senators deserve -- they deserve, and the senators should be obligated, to afford them some sense of how they will review the evidence. that is what we don't have here. so what worries me is you have the senators saying, i will consider how he abused the
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constitution and others say, i just believe her even before i hear her testimony. >> laura: i saw mazie hirono byron, said that his jurisprudence makes it more likely -- i believe she said makes it more likely that he did these things.- that was one of the wildest things i've ever heard. >> yes, she said i believe he is wrong about this or that constitutional doctrine therefore, i believe that hes sexually assaulted a teenage girl in 1982. it made absolutely no sense. as far as the questioning tomorrow, we don't really know about what the prosecutor hired to do the questioning is really going to be saying because a number of the republican membert of the committee are kind of afraid to go in front of this issue. >> laura: i like beth wilkinson, kavanaugh's attorney. she was on "special report." i would've liked to have seen her ask those questions. both of you, thanks so much. we are less than 12 hours away
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from tomorrow's monumental senate hearing. raymond arroyo is here next to tell us how style performance may play a larger role for somep than actual substance and how hollywood is jumping in on the act. "seen and unseen" is next. give us the frontiers. the places where success is measured in pushed limits. give us the middle of nowhere. where the only map is your buddies' tread marks. this life? no one's born ready for it. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ )
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>> laura: it's time for our "seen and unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. culture meets politics. but what does brett kavanaugh have to accomplish at tomorrow's hearing, and how might style mean more than anything he actually says? joining us now with more is raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, best seller of the "will wilder" series. >> this is not your traditional hearing, not an evidentiary trial, or a judicial hearing. this is a credibility contest between brett kavanaugh and his accuser, dr. ford. i consulted and i shaped speeches, coached people over the years, i was an actor director. this sensibility, people are going to judge what we see tomorrow on the hill by emotions
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and instincts more than content. i watched martha maccallum'sl interview the other day with brett kavanaugh. i want to share this with the audience. you watch this, and we'll draw some lessons that he might need to watch. >> i am looking for a fair process, a process where i can defend my integrity, and clear my name. i've never sexually assaulted anyone, not in high school, not ever. >> laura: i would not use their language. i would not use the left's accusation, "i'm not a crook," -- i didn't do anythingr approaching that. it's an outrage that my reputation -- i think you got ta bring the juice a little bit. it's too flat.nk >> this is a little programmatic. people are looking for him to be indignant, and he has to be empathetic toward his accuser.t look at this, this is another
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difficulty. i hope he doesn't repeat this tomorrow.. watch. >> i'm asking for is a fair process where i can be heard. i've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or otherwise.y again, i'm just asking for a fair process where i can be heard and defend my integrity. i've never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or at any time. >> repeating the same or hearst blinds will not work. he has to show a little of himself. he has to show a little indignation. i think grit. >> laura: he has it. >> we demonstrated it in one moment with martha. i want to show you, when she asks about the rape allegations the gang-rape allegations. he got hot under the collar. >> that is totally false and outrageous, i have never done anything such thing, never known about any such thing. when i was in high school and i went to an all boys catholic high school, a jesuit high school, where i was focused on academics and athletics.
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>> he went on to explain his case. you saw a little of the grit and fire. the camera picks up the things in between the lines, laura. that is how we judge people whea we see them on tv. that is going to be a bigeo determiner here. it is going to be how do people receive him. it's about character. >> laura: what about her?bo >> she's got the same bar. a >> laura: she's going to cry. >> we know what they are going to say, the statements have been released, it's all about objects and theatrics and i think, democrats are going to try to -- >> laura: they are going to a try to put them back -- >> republicans will defer -- >> laura: i know he's a judge so he's not like us. we would slice and dice these people.ra he's more judicious and kind. >> now is the moment to show -- he has to be saddened by the spectacle. >> laura: justice thomas did it right. this is a fraud, there is a high-tech lynching -- it wasdi great. that won it for him. if you don't fight for it people are like --
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>> these allegations are false you better be ticked off right hollywood is now taking sides in the kavanaugh fight. in an online sensation that got very little attention this week a-list of stars staged a walkout to show their support -- >> laura: keep walking. >> organized by time's up, they wore black, and they walked out of their workplace in a silent protest against kavanaugh. debra messing, kerry washington samantha bee, all left their workplaces to join this movement, as did actress emmy rossum. this is her recording, her group walked out. she's in a show appropriately called "shameless." listen what she said at the end of this video. e >> believe women. thank you!el >> believe women. it was #believewomen. >> laura: paula jones didn't get any belief. >> what if i said believe men? if their charges are seen as creditable and if you are corroborating -- >> laura: i don't believe
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that. anyone woman making any chargera the uva frat rape charges, all that is missed. >> why does sex tell us anything about truthfulness? >> laura: they are bubbleheaded celebrities. this is not what they do. they think they were black jimmy kimmel, what is going on. a big democratic fund-raiser the other night in l.a. where he disposed with any semblance ofc balance. watch. >> a late night talk show host the prevailing wisdom was, don't take a side, you lose half your audience. you make fun of everyone. i'm sure you know this, if you look around the channels, that wisdom is no longer prevailing. this is an emergency. we need to fight, we need to do everything in our power to repeal and replace congress. a >> repeal and replace this congress. he basically said he doesn't give a darn about his audience.
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he will take a political side. you know why jimmy kimmel'sl ratings are at the bottom now? because of things like this. why drive your audience away? i liked him so much better when he was helping people win benim stein's money. >> laura: let me just say there's nothing funny. >> he's not a comedian. he was never a comedian. >> laura: can we do holograms of carson? i want holograms of johnny carson and maybe a little early david letterman. any of the stuff -- guys, you are not funny. >> if you want to get into politics, run for office. >> laura: come to the table jimmy. come sit right here. >> "seen and unseen." >> laura: brett kavanaugh submitted his calendar showing his scheduling during the summer of 1982. very organized. one of the women named numerous times throughout the calendar joins us next with her recollections. stay right there.
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with trying to disprove this iss i think people are trying to put the burden on him is that it's very hard to disprove or even remember exactly what you did 36 years ago. that is one of the reasons why he provided his calendars in response to the senate judiciary committees request for all the documents. so they could at least see what he was doing that summer.ha >> laura: that was beth wilkinson, attorney for brett kavanaugh, summing up how impossible a task this is develop an effective defense to charges that don't include a corroborating witness from 36 years ago. joining us now is someone with firsthand knowledge about these months. suzanne is listed on the calendar and spent much of the summer of '82 with palss including brett kavanaugh. thank you for being here. first, what was your relationship with brett? you are listed on june 6th june 8th, june 9th, june 16th. [laughs] it says "suzanne." i guess that is you. do you remember? >> that is me.
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let's start with the fact that he kept a calendar. >> laura: [laughs] exactly. >> in high school, he kept a calendar and still has a today. that shows his level of organization, diligence, and yes. we were great friends in high school.nd >> laura: do remember seeing "grease 2" with brett on june 16th? this is like a time capsule. >> not as great as "grease 1." >> laura: what you think about these allegations, these latest allegations from a woman named julie swetnick. we found out more about her tonight courtesy of "the new york times" and political. very litigious, used the same law firm that chrisitine blasey ford used, debra katz's law firm, followings sexual harassment claims, got a settlement, restraining order successfully filed against her by her former boyfriend. now these claims from avenatti's client, gang-rape, brett b kavanaugh was liquoring girls up to get them lined up for gang rape. if that had occurred, you knew
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him well, would you have heard about that? >> it's impossible and outrageous. it is such a stretch to even like him to her. she was in college while we were in high school. we were a close knit private school community. she was in a public school 35 minutes away. >> laura: was there any cross-pollination with gaithersburg high school and he went to holy child, a great school, he went to prep georgetown prep, did you guys hang out together, run in the same circles? >> not at all. >> laura: i thought it was weird for a college student to hang out with a bunch of high school students in beach week -- what happened at the beach week? i was always mowing lawns. you guys are the fancy people going to beach week. i didn't even know it beach week was in glastonbury, connecticut. what was going on, a lot of drinking, partying? >> beach week is a tradition, ac the end of the school year, we would go to the beach.
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brett's group was there with and chaperone, and we were down the road with a chaperone, and we spent a lot of time hanging out then. it was actually very heartwarming to see my name in the calendar on that week because i remember it as a timeline brought that i spent a lot of time together and it really cemented our relationship as friends. >> laura: to this day. >> yeah, to this day. >> laura: msnbc was mockingra the calendar today, suzanne. i will play a little clip. >> he has yet to say why he wouldn't want an fbi investigation. especially if his whole goal when he was a young man, as he says it, was to win all his varsity basketball games, be number one has in his class, and go to chapel, and do service projects.rs >> it's not like he is sitting back now. he's put all this calendar as proof, which, i don't know what smoking gun they have in there that they will shell up but so far all that it shows is corroboration.
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>> laura: your thoughts? just sneering, media bias. >> like i said, the fact that he kept the calendar, and recorded things, not just about his social life, about his interviews with brown, yale. >> laura: did you ever see him purposely try to get girls drunk, loading them up with alcohol to take advantage ofry them? >> yeah -- no. it's impossible. again, this is a guy that had ambitions back in high school. he loved his parents, he was respected -- he respected his mom, wanted to follow in her footsteps. he would never do anything to disappoint her or sabotage his dreams. >> laura: suzanne, thank you so much. up next, the lessons of the kavanaugh -- that kavanaugh can take away from the president's press conference today. those highlights next and go on our facebook page and you willre see the letter that suzanne along with a lot of her friends supporting brett kavanaugh forth tomorrow.
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>> laura: still trying to get over beach week. what do you see from these past two weeks from the media, manyti of the democrats, is a disgraceful spectacle, meant to tear down a good man. as he approaches a fire tomorrow, he can take some lessons from how the president took on all comers today. >> the fbi told us they've investigated judge kavanaugh six times, five times, many times over the years. they know him very well. here there is nothing to investigate from at least one standpoint. they did another location, they didn't know the time, they didn't know the year. o they didn't know anything. l it is like, where'd you go? >> are you saying that all three of those women are liars? is there anything that could be said tomorrow that could cause you to withdraw the nomination? anything at all?
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>> i won't get into that game. i will tell you this. this is one of the highest quality people that i've ever met. >> mr. president -- >> go ahead. >> mr. trump, you did and lets me ask my question. >> you been asking a question for 10 minutes. a please sit down. go ahead. >> how did those impact your opinions on the allegations? >> it does impact my opinion. you know why? i've had a lot of false chargesy made against me. how about just a couple -- i could be doing this all dayju long. i could be doing this all day long. should we continue for a little while? it doesn't matter to me. a couple more? i don't care. w "new york times," come on! the failing "new york times." stand up. go ahead. this is a very big moment for our country because you have a man who is very outstanding but he's got very strong charges against him. probably charges that nobody is going to be able to be able to
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prove. someone could say 30 years ago 25 years ago, ten years ago five years ago, he did a horrible thing to me. he did this, he did that, he did that, and honestly, it's a very dangerous period in our country. and it's being perpetrated by some very evil people. some of them are democrats, i must say, because some of them know that this is just a game that they are playing. it's a con game. it's at the highest level. we are talking about the united states supreme court. >> laura: my advice to the judge when we come back. - [narrator] do you have less energy than you used to?
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the frauds on the committee who are trying to twist this process and turn it into something it never should have been, a political circus. our country will be better off for it. stand and fight, the only way to win this. donald trump tells us that it shows us that every day. see you back here tomorrow night. shannon bream will take it from here with another fantastic show. shannon: we begin with a fox news alert. she is ready for tomorrow according to lawyers, brett kavanaugh's accuser, christine ford. brett kavanaugh and ford will testify before the senate judiciary committee. new last-minute allegations surfacing, we will break them down with the fact. senator lindsey graham will be questioning ford and brett kavanaugh tomorrow and we will get the inside scoop from the polygraph expert who
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