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later, sean, he changed his mind. >> unbelievable. my best to your family. get ready for the bombs. >> i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" in washington. i want to begin of course with the decision to open up a one-week fbi investigation into brett kavanaugh. you can imagine i'm not wild about this delay. but i'm trying to look at this as optimistically as possible tonight. this might turn out to be a good thing, and here's why. it may give the fence sitters cover to vote for kavanaugh's confirmation. they probably want to vote for him, but with this question of why not the fbi investigation, they had a reason to sit back. but -- and this is very important -- if you think this
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is going to be the end of all the charades and the stunts that we've seen from the democrats, think again. now, just as a reminder, this is what they were saying about judge kavanaugh before the still-uncorroborated allegations emerged. >> i'm going to do absolutely everything i possibly can to speak out against the nominee. >> you have demonstrated an extraordinary hostility to the right and liberties precious in this country that make this nation great. >> he is the most unpopular supreme court nominee in the last 40 years. >> in a moral moment, there is no bystanders. you are either complicit in the evil, you are either contributing to the wrong or you are fighting against it. >> very understated, as always, from cory booker. and then think about all of the baseless smears their media
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brethren -- can i say brethren or do i have to say brethren and sisters? sorry, brethrens and sisters engaged in following that. the democrats leaked christine blasey ford name, forcing her into the open. that was the plan from the beginning. then in the form of a -- we were expecting big things from that. they proffered another pathetically sourced non-corroborated account. it alleged kavanaugh exposed himself at a party even though the victim herself is not sure kavanaugh was twaactually the o who exposed himself. but that didn't stop them. this absurd claim stacking the
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d.c. suburbed. then of course, the night before yesterday's testimony, nbc trumpeted this news. so, where is the kavanaugh saga headed next? what's the democrats, with the help of jeff flake, have really done is allowed for another week of smears, something lindsey graham addressed this morning. >> tells you what's going to happen if we keep this farce going. this has never been at the truth. this has been about delay and destruction. >> joining me now for reaction is fox news contributor and former trump deputy campaign manager, former secretary of
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sta state. dave, jeff flake -- and we are going to get into the meat of this part of it later on. but jeff flake was accosted by a liberal smear storm in the form of people who said they were sexually accused. but they wanted to surround him in the senate today, and they did. somehow security doesn't even exist in the u.s. senate anymore. people just swarm around people and stopped him in an elevator. and the man looked like he couldn't stand the heat. after that, he walks back into the senate after just having written a letter saying he supported the judge's nomination, and he comes up with a new thing, a new little idea of a week delay. >> it looks and feels like he got bullied by some of these protesters but also the senate democrats bullied him. it's a shame.
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what his decision has allowed brett kavanaugh and his family to be terrorized again for the next week. and it's really -- it's counterproductive to our country, to the supreme court and to the process. but it really creates this -- they've thrown the rule book out the window, the democrats. and i think they're going to pay dearly for that in the long run. >> this is what flake said today. >> this country is being ripped apart here, and we've got to make sure that we do due diligence. i think this committee has done a good job, but i do think that we can have a short pause and make sure that the fbi can investigate. >> but will it be narrow in scope? let's listen. >> i think it would be proper to delay the floor vote for up to
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but not more than one week, in order to let the fbi continue to do an investigation, limited in time and scope. >> joel, already within moments, after pushing him into doing this, coons comes out of the senate room and says, no, there are going to be other accusations. essentially, i'm paraphrasing. we can't just limit this. this is a big ruse. it's not about dr. ford. it's about digging up dirt or whatever it is they do to get people to come forward 36 years later. >> i have confidence in the fbi and their ability to do background investigations. and the clearly the votes were there at this time for the judge. there needs to be an investigation into is judge from dr. ford. she was a credible witness.
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senator grassley said so. let's see what the fbi comes up with this. at the end of the day, this could be good for the republicans if they -- >> is that the goal for democrats, to help the republicans here? >> is that really where we are? they're trying to help the republicans. i'm sorry but i thought jeff flake sounded like an out-of-touch narcissist today. i'm mr. smith goes to washington. i'm going to save the whole process. the process was polluted by an uncorroborated allegation being used to smear a man who's been in public life for almost three decades. mark, i want to go to you on this. to me, this was really the moment where we heard from debra katz's lawyer when she came forward. and i thought, "oh, she's going to be excited about this." instead she said, "oh, no, no, we can't limit this. that's an arbitrary deadline,
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and we need to hear from all of the accusers." so this whole thing it's about dr. ford, is it about dr. ford? >> i think her lawyers have acted like they're more interested in the democratic agenda delaying than getting her story out. we heard these stories how she was afraid to fly, et cetera, and pushed this off for several day. it doesn't appear that her attorneys are working in her best interest. >> dave, when you really think about how this has progressed from kavanaugh being nominated to meetings from democrat operatives about how they can stop this and force this into a last-minute panic all the way up to the midterms and then roll it forward until time has run out. this has been their strategy from the very beginning. my question to you as someone who's a conservative activist. you know this town quite better than most people. have the republicans been
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outmaneuvered, outperformed, and outplayed on this? >> yes, as usual. unfortunately that happens to be the case. kavanaugh was out there himself. he had nobody for him. it was amazing to watch him by himself. senator schumer said the first day, we will do whatever it takes to defeat this person. democrat senator after democrat senator said, "we are in it," before the first witness weeks ago. let's not forget, senator feinstein hid this from view. she and her staff have a really acted unethically. and i think there should be an investigation of how exactly they came into the possession of that letter and what they did with it. >> and i want to get into this with our fbi agents about how they go about doing this. it's interesting. if you're going after his credibility, is there any circumstance under which you
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discuss the background of the accuser or the people supporting her? because if you're doing that, what are you doing? 36 years later, if it's just a credibility contest, where do you go? >> it's not just a credibility contest. there really is information. the judge himself had a calendar. there were charges she has put out there about factual information. >> she don't know when or where it happened. >> that's what we need to understand. >> there's no reason to think that the fbi is going to uncover anything the committee investigates haven't already covered. >> you've worked on nomination after nomination after confirmation. do you think the democrats are purposely deciding, "we're just going to ignore what the fbi does and just claim that the fbi is going to go around, like they're actually going to dust fingerprints and dna samples? >> it's not what the fbi does. they're trying to see if there is an allegation that should be
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investigated by the senate judiciary committee. and the senate judiciary committee has already heard these allegations, already investigated them, have sworn statements that expose all these people to five years in prison if they're lying. i would be very surprised if the fbi covers something else. >> i served as chief investigate for all of these committees and worked with some of the best investigative reporters in the country. for the last two weeks, there have been hundreds of investigative reporters scouring trying to come up with more allegations against brett kavanaugh and they have not been able to come up with everything. >> and when he was working for ken starr, you don't think they would have shredded him? >> they attacking everybody. you name it, they went after them. >> if he survived being with ken
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starr and looking at clinton's sex life and all that, i'm sorry, that's one other -- hold on. i got to get to this cory booker. cory booker didn't even believe the statements as they were written and signed under penalty of felony, including that of mark judge and others. let's watch. >> the only person who has denied the event has taken place, who said it did not happen, is judge kavanaugh. mark judge said, "i have no memory of this alleged incident. this is not it did not happen." pj smyth said he has no knowledge of these allegations. that is not it did not happen. she said to her attorney she had no recollection of being at a party of gathering where kavanaugh was present. that was not it did not happen. >> here's what mark judge said in his statement, the one he signed. he said, i have no memory of the alleged incident. brett kavanaugh were friends in
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high school, but i don't recall the party described. more to the point, i never saw brett act in the manner dr. ford described. "i've never seen him act in the manner described." i just can't take him seriously. that's one of the main reasons. >> he's obviously an admitted groper himself. keith ellison has his problems. bill clinton. how about tom harper who is a known wife-beater? he's serving in the united states senate today. >> do they know where ellison's office is? have they gone up to ellison and said, "hey, what did you do from your girlfriend?" >>yesterday kavanaugh in his
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performance demonstrated a temperament that gave pause to a lot of people. and that opened up the question for a lot of the moderate swing votes that now they're looking and saying -- >> that is only -- >> the only people who can be angry or the democrats. >> when you're fighting for your right, you have every right to be angry, and that's what he did. no, his life has been destroyed and he said so. what these people have done, it's dispipable. >> despicable. >> we have another week and we'll see what happens. i think the outcome is going to be the same way it looked this morning, which is judge kavanaugh is going to get confirmed with 52 votes. >> greg has been very consistent and he's very calm when the rest of us are -- >> i try, i try. >> why am i talking so loudly it's friday, we're going to have fun on the show. all right, thank you so much. ms. blasey ford has now raised
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$535,000 on a gofundme page. who set the page up? the site indicates it was sponsored by her neighbors and colleagues. isn't it fair to ask with another long week in front of us, has this gofundme created a new incentive for accusers. to answer these questions, let's bring in constitutional law expert jonathan. what's your reaction? is there an incentive issue here that should be concerning? also with the swarmers in the senate. they apparently got jeff flake to put on a pair of depends. >> i wrote about this in the first time when lanny davis announced a gofundme-type page for michael cohen. and suddenly huge amounts of
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money were put into that account. and as an attorney, it really struck me as quite odd because you can have people effectively in a market for witnesses. you can buy a witness effectively by funding them as long as they're saying the type of thing you want them to say. so michael cohen goes out and says, "i'm now out the get the president. i'm going to implicate him in crimes." we see that more and more, where people invest in witnesses, so they become part of this process by making it more likely that folks will not only take a certain approach in testimony, but they're essentially competing against each other in this market. you're going to get more donations. >> i'll one-up you on the threats, yeah. >> you are.
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and so this whole aspect of gofundme is relatively new. our ethical rules haven't caught up to that. we have all types of rules about the classic situation where someone gives you money for testimony, but this is a new creature for us, this idea that millions of people can effectively pay you to take a particular position. >> there's $200,000 that has been raised in an account for her security. she's very concerned about her security, apparently. $200,000 in that and then the $530,000 in this general page. and just for people who missed this, there was a moment where her lawyers asked a question about is someone paying for your attorneys fees. let's watch this. >> i believe you said it hasn't been paid for yet, is that correct? >> let me put an end to this. her lawyers have paid for her polygraph. >> dr. ford, do you expect the
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price of that polygraph to be passed on to you? >> i'm not sure yet. i haven't taken a look at all of the costs involved in this. i'm aware that there's been several gofundme sites, but i haven't had a chance to figure out how to manage those because i've never had one. >> what? >> gofundme. >> i have help you with that. both her counsel are doing this pro bono. we are not being paid and don't have any expectation of being paid. >> $530,000? where is that money going? this is a legitimate question to ask. no one wanted to touch, of course, the character of the accuser for a variety of reasons. you don't want to victimize a victim or an alleged victim. and i get that. but we don't have journalists who were interested in what was she like in high school.
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is that not relevant? no one wanted to touch that. but it would seem that everyone should be interested in this if someone is making a lot of money off of this particular case. >> we're in a very strange place ethically. gofundme sites do help people pay for important public interest work and projects, so i'm not criticizing that. but we really do need to have some type of standard in terms of where the money goes to, what you can say in order to induce people to give money to these sites. those are really raising some new questions and i think they're pretty darn troubling. >> there could be fraud involved, correct? fraud in the inducement. there could be all sorts of things involved here. but again, it is new territory. thank you so much. and i want to know where that money is going so badly.
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>> with the fbi kavanaugh investigation now rubber stamp by the white house, where does it stand at this hour and what its scope? that's a really important question. for those answers, we go to ed henry tonight. >> new tonight, the fbi has actually started work on this new background check. the president tweeting a few moments ago that this will now be the seventh background check for judge brett kavanaugh in recent years. there is some risk this time. every day feels like an eternity to he and his family. but on the plus side for the president and kavanaugh, this could lock in yes votes from four or five key moderates. the big caveat is kavanaugh could be confirmed as long as the fbi does not find evidence to corroborate dr. ford's
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allegations. here's the key when you ask about the scope. the committee says it is, quote, limited to current credible allegations that must be completed one week from today. that would suggest just the dr. ford allegations, which are current and have have been deemed credible even by the president. except that does not seem to be good enough for dr. ford's under, debra katz. quote, no artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation, suggesting that, yes, the ford camp might want to delay this some more, except of course her team does not run the senate and this fbi probe could be moving quickly. kavanaugh's friend mark judge has sent a new letter to the justice department tonight saying that, in fact, he saw something and doesn't remember
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anything happening nothing like dr. ford testified to. at least five key moderates say they back this one-week investigation. so if the president does move forward with all of this and the fbi finds nothing, kavanaugh would not be guaranteed to get these votes, it was brokered by flake and chris coons. this allowed the committee with a favorable 11-10 vote. but then the pause. listen. >> they're not going to tell you any more than you know now. >> it is my hope and expectation that a report from the fbi will be delivered to the judiciary committee members to allow them to further inform their vote. >> remember, grassley said yesterday that feinstein wasted
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nearly two months by sitting on that original letter from dr. ford. lawyer. >> laura. >> ed, thanks. >> are you willing to ask the white house to authorize the fbi to investigate the claims that have been made against you? >> why aren't you also asking the fbi to investigate these claims? >> if there is no truth to her charges, the fbi investigation will show that. are you afraid that they might not? >> why not agree to a one-week pause to allow the fbi to investigate all these allegations? >> now, given all that, they were perfectly orchestrated. the republicans don't do the same job as the democrats do, consistent refrain. should we be really all that surprised about today's developments? the question is, what exactly can the fbi accomplish in just a week's time? for answers to that, we turn to the pros, two of them.
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former national spokesperson for the fbi. deoxyribonucleic acid of course, we hear that current credible allegations will be part of this new background investigation. tell me what you expect to be accomplished. >> well, first of all, take the emotion out of this thing. we saw a circus atmosphere for the last several weeks. the fbi's going to do a dispassionate black-and-white this is what we know and this is what we've seen investigation that will be done timely. remember, this organization did the oklahoma bombing in a day and a half. this is a background investigation. the fbi has all kinds of resources they can pour into this thing. it'll be the highest priority thing they're probably doing right now. that remains to be seen how it's
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viewed when it comes in. >> the l.a. times had a piece that they put up this afternoon. the title was this: "former fbi agents say there are clues to follow from dramatic kavanaugh hearing." and this is the graph i pulled. "there is plenty of lead value in the testimony that was provided in the hearing and there are plenty of witnesses that can be identified, contacted, and interviewed," said a former top fbi official. they can do this very quickly. john. >> the fbi can do this very quickly. it's what the fbi does and what they're good at. sure, there's tons of leads and people you can talk to, but just because there's leads doesn't mean there's going to be evidence, that something's going to come back conclusively showing that someone engaged in some sort of behavior. the fbi nonetheless will go out, gather what facts are available
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and bring them back so the politicians can decide. >> i'm going back to this language. brett kavanaugh, he drank too much. for instance, they think that's a credible allegation that he didn't refute. he claims he didn't ever black out but that's not really credible how much alcohol was being drunk in college or high school, whatever. now, is that the kind of thing the fbi could look into, call other people that are listed in the yearbook entry or they don't go to that granular level of detail? >> they can. you talk to associates. that's just routine. but there's forensics things they can do, too. >> he's already gone through those. he's had six background checks.
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>> they could, yes, they could very well. >> they already did. >> yes. but they're going to do it again. and i guarantee you they will do it again in order to put this thing to rest. they don't want to be criticized for not following up or doing the right thing. this has to be very, very well done, very detailed. and i will tell you, i grabbed that calendar. they can age date those things with the ink and the paper to see if it was written contemporaneously the way he said it was. that's a lot of evidence. his own calendar says where he was and where he was not. they will do it with a great deal of vigor and they're going to come out with some answers here and it may not support the allegations. i think it probably won't. >> gosh, i didn't think they would be looking in the ink in the calendar. i thought they would be doing a bunch of interviews and writing up 302's.
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>> it's friday, which means it's time for... leftist activist storming and swarming capitol hill last week. they took it from the restaurant right into the u.s. senate. will the announcement of the kavanaugh fbi probe embolden them? we're joined by best-selling author. can i make any more comments about you? fox news contributor raymond arroyo. >> okay. let's talk about these protests that have been swarming capitol hill. we've seen in restaurants, in
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movie theaters. this week capitol hill offices were filled with protesters. poor lindsey graham, he was outrunning the mob. they're yelling and screaming at him with signs, poking him. this built to the moment today when jeff flake, who was always on the fence about whether he was going to vote kavanaugh out of committee, was cornered in an elevator today. we showed it earlier. we're going to let people hear it. >> you're allowing someone who is unwilling to take responsibility for his own actions to sit on the higher court of the country and to have the role of repairing the harm that has been done in this country to many people. >> i was sexually assaulted and nobody believed me. i didn't tell anyone and you're telling all women that they don't matter. you're telling all of these women.
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that's what you're telling me right now. look at me when i'm talking to you. >> the insistence, the anger, the harassment of public officials. i worry about this. do you think this was staged? it might have been staged to justify the change of heart. >> look at me! look at me! i'm sorry. first of all, who is his staff? where is the capitol police? if you did that to one of these women, they would be screaming harassment. if you're someone who was sexual assaulted, that's a horrible, terrible thing, but that does not mean that every person accused of sexual harassment is guilty. >> what are we teaching kids? throw a temper tantrum, you get what you want. speaking of protests, it comes
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in many forms these days. >> after the election, i became mortified kind of and terrified. and so i had to use my creative energy to -- i had to put it somewhere. >> where would you like her to put it, laura? >> i don't know. the word "feline" comes up to me. she's very feline looking. >> barbra streisand is releasing a new album called "walls." >>i want to put a wall up. >> the songs all have a political edge, including one that she wrote herself called "don't lie to me," directed to who she calls the liar in chief. listen. ♪ don't lie to me ♪ don't lie to me
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♪ you lied to me >> she went the somehow from funny girl to cranky lady. the album's coming out. she's done a string of these duet albums in recent years. i think the audience will be crying for "the way we were." >>you don't bring me flowers or lyrics anymore. >> murphy brown came back from the dead after 20 years last night on cbs. she had a special guest. >> in this new murphy brown 20 years later, her son avery works for a network called the wolf networks. all the anchors are conspiracy theorists and all the women are dead behind the eyes. anyways, she wears a shirt that says "the original nasty woman" in the premier. they put trump video behind sympathy for the devil.
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and then there was a very special guest star. watch. >> i'm here to interview for the secretarial position. i'm not afraid of hard work, i'm qualified and ready on day one. >> and i also assume you've had previous secretarial experience. >> absolutely. for four years, i was the secretary of a very large organization. >> and you have all the requisite skills, computer, mail. >> emails. i do have some experience with emails. >> thank goodness for the laugh track. even reviews called it strident, heavy-handed, not character-driven at all. >> two words, not funny. these people are obsessed with trump. they think they're actually -- and you said this the other night. they're more obsessed with trump than trump supporters. i know they call it trump derangement syndrome, but it is
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a mental disorder at this point. over 7 million people tuned in. when i watched this, i kept thing, candice bergren wrote a book years ago. she was very upset because he used that dummy to communicate his true feelings. watching this, candice bergren is using a very wooden murphy brown to communicate her politics and i don't think the audience is going to accept it. >> i'll be back later. the winners and losers. >> who is behind the continued effort to take down kavanaugh? a former hillary clinton spokesperson. there he is. next. on from his vacation. so he stepped on the dr. scholl's kiosk. it recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain so you can move more. dr. scholl's. born to move.
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and that's probably because they are. they're well coordinated and extremely well funded. a research group found there is one particular bad actor behind many of the smears. former hillary clinton staffer brian fallon. joining us now is the researcher who compiled this report. and on set with me is mark penn. give us a rundown of how this group -- it's called demand justice, led by fallon -- is the tip of the anti-kavanaugh spear. >> he was mocked by some libe l liberals for claiming there's this calculated effort to smear him. and he's not wrong. as you mentioned, fallon founded demand justice. he was the face of the hillary clinton campaign.
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you saw him all over the 2016 effort. after that campaign wrapped up in the spring of 2018, he founded demand justice. and his goal was to defeat whoever president trump decided to choose as his nominee for the supreme court. so, again, we're dealing with an organization that didn't even look to see what qualifications this person would have. they didn't care. they were going to defeat anyone. he goes to george soros for seed money. he gets it. and i'll let you jump in before i tell the rest of the story. >> soros then comes in. and we don't know how much he gave him or we do? >> for as much as democrats like to lament dark money, these are contributions that are unlimited to these organizations and undisclosed. these groups were popularized by
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the great decision and citizens united. we're talking about democrats who apparently deplore dark money, but they have set up not one level, not two levels, but three levels of secrecy in setting up this project. demand justice is a project of the 1630 foundation. those are both c4's. and it's partnered with hillary clinton's c4 as well. that means all of their filings are obscureded within each other's tax returns and we can't see them. >> some of this could, and i say could, backfire on the democrats. >> look, i don't think it's a surprise that there are groups on the democratic side that genuinely oppose this nominee and the entire list of federalist nominees and groups on the republican side. we are here because a professor
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wrote a letter and senator feinstein wrongly held that letter. and that's why we're here. and the public wants certainty here. even president trump said the professor's testimony was credible. and i don't think senator flake did the right thing. maybe it's just confirm or turn up something new, but i think people wanted more certainty before this vote and i think they're going to get that. >> brian fallon though is particularly -- well, i won't say he's partisan, but to say things like this like in a tweet yesterday, if the senate tries to get an attempted rapist on the court. kavanaugh will not serve for life. >> do you think that's good language? >> i think we are searching for national unity here. quotes like that are not going to get us there. i agree with that. i hope that after this
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news week. okay, raymond, what's one of the biggest winners of the week? >> to my mind, the biggest winners were the judiciary committee democrats. they wanted an fbi investigation. they pushed and begged for it. >> they coordinated it. >> they staged everything. >> okay. my winner of the week is lindsey graham, who had the moment and he stole the show. >> the only republican who defended kavanaugh and actually made the case. >> the only republican. loser, the losers are michael and the media. mike judge said in a sworn dilation -- declaration, never happen. >> she was trying to get a deposition. she was like on a fact-finding mission when a prosecutor was necessary to make the case for
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that conversation was had before they made the big announcement. apparently rosenstein said they could do an investigation in a week, but they probably wouldn't you unearth anything more than we already know. everybody have a great weekend. shannon bream up next. >> this is a fox news alert. judge brett kavanaugh makes it out of the senate judiciary committee. and late-breaking news tonight, a senator who said he's maybe holding back. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night". i'm shannon bream in washington. judge kavanaugh's nomination to the supreme court takes a big step forward but also now facing a delay, as trump has the fbi conduct an investigation. in just moments, we're going to talk to a former doj prosecutor. he knows all about the background check process. he'll tell us what the fbi
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