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he changed his mind and reversed course. >> sean: unbelievable. my best to your family. let your heart not be troubled. laura is next. >> laura: this is ingraham angle in washington. i want to begin with thele decision to open up a one-week fbi investigation into brett kavanaugh. now, you could probably imagine, i'm not really wild about this delay. but i'm trying to look at this as optimistically as possible. and this might turn out to be a good thing. here's why. it may just end up giving those fence sitters cover to vote for kavanaugh's confirmation. they probably want to vote for him. but with this question of why not the fbi investigation, they had a reason to sit back. but, and this is very important, if you think this is going to be the end of all the charades and
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stunts that we have seen from the democrats, think again. just as a reminder, this is what they were saying about judge kavanaugh before the still uncorroborated allegations emerged. >> i'm going to do everything i possibly can to speak out against this nominee. >> youin have demonstrated an extraordinary hostility to the right and liberty, precious in this country, that make this nation great. >> he is the most unpopular supreme court nominee in the last 40 years. >> in a moral moment, there is no bystanders. you are either complicit in the evil, you are either contributing to the wrong, or you are fighting against it. >> laura: very understated from corys booker. think about all the baseless smears, their media brethren and
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sisters engaged in following that. like despite her call for anonymity, the democrats leaked christine blasey's name. that was the plan from the beginning. then in the form of a jane mayer piece, we are expecting big things from that, they proffered another pathetically non-corroborated account, this one alleging that kavanaugh exposed himself at a college party even though the alleged victim is not sure that it was kavanaugh that exposed himself. but that didn't stop them from hosting the man pedaling this tale, porn lawyer, michael avenatti with this absurd claim.
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then the night before yesterday's testimony, nbc trumpeted this. no address, no names, no nothing. so where is the kavanaugh saw dba headed next? the democrats, with the help of jeff flake, has allowed for another week of smears. something lindsey graham addressed this morning. >> avenatti moment tells you what's going to happen if we keep this far a going. this has never been about the truth. this has been about delay and destruction.st >> laura: joining me for reactionio is former trump depuy campaign manager, dave bossy, former secretary of state, joel
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rubin and greg. dave bossy, jeff flake, we are going to get into the meat of this part of it later on, but jeff flake wasaccosted in a liberal smear storm. they wanted to surround him in the senate. somehow security s doesn't exist anymore. and stopped him in an elevator and the man looked like, you know, he couldn't stand the heat. after that, he walks back into the senate after just having written a letter saying he supported the judge's nomination, and he comes up with a new thing, a new little idea. a week delay. >> it looks and feels like he got bullied by some of these protesters, but the senate democrats bullied him. you can see those behind the scenes pictures of him being accosted by those senate
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democrats. what his decision has allowed brett kavanaugh and his family to be terrorized for the next week. it's counter productive to our country, to, to the supreme cout and to the process. they have thrown the rule book out the window, the democrats. i think they are going to pay dearly for that in the long run. >> laura: joe, this is what flake said today as he was making his historic pronounce him. >> this country is being ripped apart here. and we have got to make sure that we do due diligence. i think this committee has done a good job. but i think that we can have a short pause and make sure that the fbi can investigate. >> laura: but will it be narrow in scope. let's listen. >> i think it would be proper to delay the floor vote for up to but not more than one week in
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order to let the fbi continue to do an investigation, limit it in time and scope. >> laura: joe, already within moments, coons, after pushing him into doing this, coons comes out of the senate room and saysi no, no, no, there are going to be on the accusations. essentially i'm paraphrasing. we can't just limit this. so this is a big rouse. this is not about dr. ford. it's about digging up new dirt to get people to come forward 36 years later. >> ile have confidence in the fv clearly the votes weren't there at this time for the judge. so there needs to be an investigation into the charges from dr. ford. she was a credible witness. chairman grassley said so. and with credibility comes responsibility. let's see what the fbi comes up
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with. there are senators who will have different views of what they need to be looking at. at the end ofth the day, this could be good for the republicans. >> laura: is that the goal, for the democrats to help the republicans? is that really where we are? they are trying to help the republicans. i thought jeff flake sounded like an out of touch nare assistist today. i'm mr. smith goes to washington. the process was polluted by an uncorroborated allegation being used to smear a man who's been in public life for three decades. mark, this to me, this was really the moment where we heard from debra's lawyer. she came forward. she's going to be excited about this. instead she said no, no, no, we can't limit this. that's an arbitrary deadline. we need to hear from all the
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accusers. the whole thing it's about dr. ford, is it about dr. ford? >> i think her lawyers have acted that they are more interested in the democratic agenda, delaying, than getting the story out. we heard how she was afraid to fly and pushed this off for several days. it doesn't appear that her attorneys are working in her best interest. >> laura: dave, when you thinkst about how this has progressed from kavanaugh being nominated to meetings from democratic operatives about how they can stop this, how they can force this into a last minute panic, all the way up to the midterms and roll it forward until the time has run out. that's the strategy from the beginning. my question to you, someone whot is a conservative, activist, you know this town better than most people. have the republicans been outmaneuvered, outperformed and outplayed on this? >> yes, as usual.
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that happens to be the case in this particular instance. brett kavanaugh was out there ba himself. he had no nobody fighting for him. even the bush team wasn't forna him. it was amazing to watch him out there by himself. butod look, senator schumer said the first day we'll do whatever it takes to defeat this person. democratic senator said we are in it before the first witness weeks ago. let's not forget, senator feinstein hid this from view. they have s acted unethically. there should be an investigation of exactly how they came into the possession of that letter and what they did with it. >> laura: i'm going to get into this with our fbi agent, how they go about doing this. if you are going after his credibility, is there any circumstance under which you discuss the background of the accuser or the people supporting
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her? because if you are doing that, what are you doing? 36 years later, if it's just a credibility contest, where do you go? >> not just a credibility contest. there is information. the judge himself had a calendar, there were charges that she has put out there of factual -- >> laura: she doesn't know where happened, when it happened. >> that's what we need to understand. >> there is no reason to think that the fbi is going to uncover anything. they have already talked. >> laura: greg, you have worked on nomination after nominationin after confirmation. do you think the democrats are purposelyou deciding we are just going to ignore what the fbi does and claim that the fbi is going to go around, like they are going to dust fingerprints, collect dna samples. >> it's not what the fbi does. they take statements.
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the senate judiciary committee already heard these allegations, have sworn statements that expose these people to five years in prison if they are lying. i would be very surprised if thi fbi uncovers something. >> look, i served as chief investigator for one of these committees and did the clinton investigations in the '90s andom worked with some of the best reporters in the country. for the last two weeks there have been hundreds of reporters scouring every detail trying to come up with more allegations against brett kavanaugh. they have not been able to come up with anything.ee >> laura: when he was working for ken starr, you don't think they would have shredded him? >> the clinton war machine. they attacked and killed everybody. they came up with henry, youthful indiscretion, you name t.f >> laura: if you survive being
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with ken starr, then i'm sorry,l that's one other -- hold on. i got to get to this, cory booker. cory booker didn't even believe the statements as they were written and signed under penalty of felony, including that ofdi mark judge and others. >> the only person who has denied the event has taken place who said it did not happen is judge kavanaugh. mark judge said i have no memory. this is not it did not happen. pj smith says he has no knowledge of these allegations. that is not it did not happen. leland kaiser said through her attorney she has no recollection of being at a party or gathering where kavanaugh was president. that is not "it did not happen." >> here's what mark judge said in his statement. he says i have no memory of the alleged incident. brett kavanaugh and i were friend. i don't recall the party described. more to the point, this is what
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he didn't read. i never saw brett act in a manner he described. this is the person in the room with him. but cory booker looks into the camera and makes that statement. i can'tn take him seriously.d. that's one of the main reasons. >> he's an admitted groper himself. he has his own me, too movement. bill clinton. >> how about tom carper who is a known wife beater, serving in the united states senate today. >> laura: why don't these women swarming jeff flake, do they know where ellison's office is, what did you do to your girlfriend, she has a record from her doctor. do you not stand with the girlfriend? >> yesterday, judge kavanaugh demonstrated a temperament that
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gave pause to a lot of people. that opened up the question for a lot of the moderate swing votes. >> that is another tactic. >> laura: people can be angrye are the democrats. >> when you are fighting forht your life, you have every right to be angry. his life has been destroyed andh he said so. what these people have done, it's despicable. >> laura: you want to close it out? >> we have another week. we'll see what happens. i think that the outcome is going to be the same way it look this morning, judge kavanaugh will get confirmed with 52 votee just like clarence thomas. >> laura: greg is very calm when the rest of us are -- >> heated. >> laura: why am i talking so loudly. he's like okay, laura. it's fun, it's friday. now, ford has raised $530,000 on
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a go fund me page. who set the page up? it was sponsored by her neighbors and colleagues. isn't it fair to ask with another long week in front of us, has this created a new incentive for accusers and are we witnessing a new precedent involving major financial reward for people who make such claims? let's bring in fox news contributor, jonathan turley. what's your reaction. is there an incentive issue that should be concerning? also with the swarmers in the senate. they got jeff flake to put on ah pair of depends and run to coons 20 minutes later. >> i wrote about this for the first time in the hill newspaper when landy davis announced a go fund me type page for michael cohen. suddenly hugee amounts of money
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were put into that account.d as an attorney, it struck me as quite odd. you can have people in a market for witnesses, you can buy a witness by funding them as long as they are saying the type of thing you want them to say. so michael cohen goes out and says i'm now out to get the president, i'm going to implicate him in crimes. and money pours into this account. his attorney flogs the internet site for donations. we are seeing that now more and more, where people invest in key witnesses so that they become part of this legal process by making it more likely that folks are not only going to take a certain approach in testimony, but are competing against each other in this market. you are going to get more donations. >> laura: i will one up you on the threat. >> you are. and so this whole aspect of god
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fund me is relatively new. the ethical rules haven't caught up to that. we have all types of rules about the classic situation where someone gives you money for testimony. but this is a new creature. t this idea that millions of people can pay you to take a particular position. >> there is $200,000 that's been raised in an account for heror security. she's very concerned about her security, apparently. $200,000 in that. and then the 530,000 in this general page. just for people who missed this, there was a moment where her lawyers, they were asked a question is someone paying forn your attorneys' fees. >> i believe you said it hasn'tb been paid for yet, is that correct? >> let me put an end to this. her lawyers have paid for her polygraph. >> do you expect the price of that polygraph to be passed on
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to you? >> i'm not sure yet. i haven't taken a look at all of the costs involved in this. i'm aware there's been several go fund me sites, i haven't had a chance to figure that out. >> several what? >> go fund me. >> i can help you with that. both her counsel are doing this pro bono. we are not being paid. we have no expectation of being paid. >> $530,000 is that to cover the gas from the beach to washington? the cokes were free at the hearing. where is that money going? no one wanted to touch, of course, the character of the accuser for a variety of reasons. you don't want to victimize an alleged victim. we don't have journalists who were interested in what was she like in high school, is that not relevant? no one wanted to touch that.
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but on this, it would seem that everybody should be interested in this. if someone is making a lot of money off this case. >> we are in a strange place ethically. the sites do help people pay for public interest work and projects. i'm not criticizing that. but we do need to have some type of standard as attorneys set these up in terms of where the money goes to, what you can say to induce people to give money to these sites. those are raising new questions and they are troubling. >> there could be fraud involved with the go fund me appeal, there could be some type of fraudulent intent. fraud in theec inducement. there could be all sorts of thingsbu here. thank you so much. i want to know where that money is going so badly.
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pro bono, get the money later. ed henry is here with a live report plus what can the fbi provide in a week's time. two former agents take us through the process, next.
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>> with >> laura: with the fbi kavanaugh investigation rubber stamped at the white house, where does it stand at this hour? and what's the scope? for those answers we go to ed henry tonight. >> great to see you. new tonight the fbi started work on this new background check. the president tweeting that this will be the 7th background check for judge brett kavanaugh. there is risk because, remember, the judge yesterday testified himself that every day feels like an eternity for he and his family. this could open the door for more unverified allegations coming out. this could lock in yes votes from four or five moderates andv get him confirmed. kavanaugh could be confirmed as long as the fbi does not find evidence to corroborate ford'sbo allegations.
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the committee moved forward. they asked the president to do this. the president did order this. the committee says it's limited to current credible allegationsc that must be completed one weeks from today. that would suggest just the dr. ford allegations which are current and deemed credible. but that doesn't seem to be good enough for dr. ford's attorney. she praised the senate for a thorough fbi investigation. no artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed. the ford camp might want to delay this more. except her team does not run the senate and this fbi probe could be moving quickly. kavanaugh's friend sent a new let tore the justice department tonight saying that he saw nothing and doesn't remember anything happen in the early
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1980s, nothing like dr. ford testified to. five key moderates backed this one-week investigation. if the president does move forward with this, kavanaugh would not be guaranteed to get these votes, but get the moderate republicans, susan collins, who all said they support this one week fbi investigation. it was brokered by flake and democrat chris coons. they allowed the committee to report it out of committee with a favorable 11-10 vote but then the pause. listen. >> you have the fbi, the ceo and foreign legion, they are not going to tell you any more than you know now. >> it's my expectation the fbi report will be delivered to the members to ala allow them to fur inform their vote. >> diane fine stai dianne feinso
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months. >> are you willing to ask the white house to authorize the fbi to investigate the claims that have been made against you? >> why aren't you also asking the fbi to investigate these claims? >> if there is no truth to her charges, the fbi investigation will show that. are you afraid that they might not? >> why not agree to a one-week pause to allow the fbi to investigate all these allegations? >> laura: given that, the republicans don't do the same kind of job as the democrats do. consistent refrain. should we be that surprised about today's developments? the question is what exactly can the fbi accomplish in just a week's time. for answers to that we turn to the pros, danny coleson and
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john, national spokesperson for the fbi. danny, let's start with you. there is a lot of misconsensuals about whamisconceptionsabout wh. credible allegations will be part of this new background investigation. tell me what you o expect to be accomplished. >> it's going to take the emotion out of this. we saw the circus atmosphere. the fbi is going to do a dispassionate black and white, this is what we know, this is what we have seen, investigation, done timely. this organization solved then oklahoma bombing in a day and a half. the director of the fbi has all kind of resources. highest priority thing to do. they will find out what happened. i'm not so sure that all the parties will like the results. i think that remains to be seen
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once it comes in. >> laura: john, the l.a. times had a piece. the title was this. former fbi agents say there are clues to follow from dramatic kavanaugh hearing. there is plenty of lead value in the testimony that was provided during the confirmation hearing and plenty of living witnessess that can be identified, contacted and interviewed, said james. they can do this very quickly. john. >> the fbi can do this quickly. it's what the fbi does, it's what the fbi is good at. sure, there is tons of leads, there is people you can talk to. but just because there's leads doesn't mean there's going to be evidence that something is going to come back showing that someone engaged in some sort of behavior. the fbi will go out, gather what fact are available and bring them back so the politicians can
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decide. >> danny, i'm going back to thit language of current credible allegations and what my mind is going to, putting myself in the position of some of the twisted democrats, brett kavanaugh, he drank too much. for instance, they think that's a credible allegation that he didn't refute. he claimed he didn't black out, but that's not credible given howw much chol was being drunk n high school or college. is that something the fbi could look into, they don't go to that level of detail. >> they can, actually. when you do a background investigation, you talk to associates to see what kind of person this is, that's routine. there's forensic things. >> but he's gone through those. he's had six background checks. they don't talk to people in high school, college, law
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school, white house, et cetera. >> they could very well. >> they already did. >> yes.di but they are going to do it again. i guarantee they will do ithe again in order to put this to rest. they don't want to be criticized for not following un. this has to be very, very well done, very detailed and i will tell you, i grab that calendar, have that examined to show if it's credible or not. they can age date those things d to see if it was written contemporaneous. that's powerful evidence. his own calendar says a lot about where he was. they will do it with a great deal of vigor and they are going to come out with answers here and it may not support the allegations, i think it probably won't. >> i didn't think they would look at the ink in the calendar. ii thought they would do interviews and writing up
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302s. thanks so much. ahead, friday follies with raymond arroyo. where we expose the disturbing tactics that paved the way for this new extension of time. and a legendary singer launches her own protest.
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it's a today that's better than yesterday. every dollar you can spare helps so much more than you can imagine. please donate now to help those affected by hurricane florence. your support is urgently needed. >> it's friday, >> laura: it's friday, which means it's time for, activists storming capitol hill launching a harassment campaign. will the announcement of the kavanaugh probe embolden them? raymond arroyo. i thought about your whole resume'. >> let's talk about the protests. we have seen it in restaurants.
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this week capitol hill offices were filled with protesters. this is something out of those frankenstein movies. they are yelling and screaming, yelling and poking. this was the scene all over the capitol. this built to the moment today when jeff flake who was always on the fence about whether he was going to vote kavanaugh out of committee was cornered in an elevator. we'll let people hear t this isr that moment that flake claims caused his change of heart. >> you are unwilling to let someone who take responsibility for his own actions to sit and to have the role of repairing the harm that has been done in this country to many people. >> nobody believes me. i didn't tell anybody and you are telling all women that they don't matter. that's what you are telling all of these women. that's what you are telling me
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right now. look at me when i'm talking to you. >> the insistence, the anger, the harassment of public officials. do you think this is staged, might have been staged? >> laura: look at me, look at me! first of all, who is his staff? why is this allowed to happen? if you did that to one of those women they would be screaming harassment. they don't like t first of all, if you are someone who was sexually assaulted, that's a horrible thing. but that does not mean that every person who is accused of sexual harassment is guilty. >> i worry by giving into this horde, you will unleash another. what are we teaching kids? throw a temper tantrum, you get what you want. protests come in many forms. now one of the best selling
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recording artists decided to set her political rage to music. > after the election i became mortified and terrified. and so i had to use my creative energy to -- i had to put it somewhere. >> where would you like her to put it, laura. >> laura: the word feline comes up. >> on november 2, barbara streisand is releasing "walls." they all have a political edge including one she wrote herself called don't lie to me directed to whom she calls the liar in chief. ♪ don't lie to me, don't lie to me ♪ ♪ don't lie to me >> laura: i love what she's done with the lyrics.
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>> how do you sleep when the world is burning. she went from funny lady to cranky. i don't know if political adjective agrees with her. >> laura: you don't bring me flowers and lyrics anymore. murphy brown came back. >> in this new murphy brown, her son works for an opposing network. i guess we found women you don't have to respect after all. anyway, she wears a shirt that says the original nasty woman in the premier, they put trump video behind sympathy for the devil and then there was a special guest star.
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watch. >> i'm here to interview for the secretarial position. i'm not afraid of hard work, i'm qualified and ready on day one. >> and i also assume you have had previous secretarial experience? >> absolutely. for four years i was a secretary of a very large organization. >> and you have all the requisite skills, computer? >> e-mails. i do have experience with e-mails. >> it's not heavy-handed. >> laura: two word. not funny. these people are obsessed with trump. they think -- you said this the other night. they are more obsessed with trump than trump supporters. it really is a mental disorder. they have a mental disorder. >> only 7.4 million people,
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contrast to will and graze that had 10 million. candace wrote a book about her father, it was about edgar. he used that dumby to communicate his true feelings. candace is using a wooden murphy brown. >> laura: come up with a good idea. >> i will be back, winners and losers. >> laura: who is behind this effort to take down brett kavanaugh? brian fallen's role, next. a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you?
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these delay tactics and 11th hour action sayings seem too convenient, at least to me. that's probably because they are.
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they are well coordinated and extremely well funded. a research group has been diving into the latest anti-kavanaugh efforts and found there is one particular bad actor behind many of the smears. former hillary clinton and eric holder staffer brian fallen. joining us to navigate the dark money is a researcher who compiled this report, alexander wil ks. give us a rundown of how this group, it's called demand justice, led by fallen, is the tip of the anti-kavanaugh sphere? >> he was mocked by some liberals proclaiming there is this calculated effort to smear him.m. he's not wrong. they have been leaving bread crumbs. brian fallen, he founded "demand justice." he was the face of hillary
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clinton campaign. after that campaign wrapped up in the spring of 2018 he founded "demand justice" and his goal was to defeat whoever president trump decided to choose as his nominee for the supreme court. we are dealing with an organization that didn't even look to see what qualifications this person would have, they didn't care. they were going to defeat anyone. he goes to george soros for seed money. he gets it. and i will let you jump in before i tell the next part of the story. >> laura: so soros then comes in and we don't know how much he gave him or we do? we have those facts? >> so here's the thing. for as much as democrats like to lament dark money, money that comes from 501-c-4 organizations. they are undisclosed. they are popularized by the
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citizens united. we areat talking about democrats who apparently deplore dark money. but they have set up not one level, not two levels, but three levels of secrecy in setting up this project, demand justice is a project of the 1630 foundation, those are both c-4s and partnered with hillary clinton's onward c-4 as well. all of their filings are obscured within each other's tax returns and we can't see them. >> you have spoken about how some of this could, and i say could, backfire on the democrats. i will do new polling on the weekend. >> it's not a surprise there are groups on the democratic side.y this oppose this nominee. there are groups on the republican side. we are here because a professor wrote a letter and senator feinstein wrongly held that
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letter. but that's why we are here. and i think the public wants some certainty here. real questions have been raised. even president trump says the professor's testimony was credible and i think senator flake did the right thing. this is supposed to take a week. maybe it will confirm, maybe it will turn up something new. people wanted more certainty before this vote and i think they are going to get it.th >> laura: brian fallen knows particularly, to say things like this as he did in a tweet yesterday, if they try to muscle an attempted ratist on to the re court, he will not serve for life. >> we searching for national unity.or quotes like that are not going to get us there. i hope that after this investigation and the vote, wet
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can come together and stop this kind of rhetoric. >> laura: when we come back, winners and losers of the week. do not miss this. next.
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>> laura: there are big winners and major losers in this bigr news week to. help me break it down, i'm
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joined with raymond arroyo. >> the biggest winners were the democrats. they wanted an fbi investigation, they pushed and begged for it, demanded it. >> laura: they coordinated it. >> they staged everything. >> laura: my winner of the week is lindsey graham who had the moment and stole the show. >> the only republican who defended kavanaugh. >> laura: loser, i say michael avenatti. and the losers are michael avenatti and the media who kept propping up his complaint. mark judge said it never happened. >> my loser is rachel mitchell and the g.o.p. senator whose pushed her out there. she was on a fact finding mission when a prosecutor was necessary to make the case for
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kavanaugh. that never happened.ou >> laura: raymond, would you like to look at this document? are you okay? would you like more caffeine? [laughter] all right. we'll be right back.
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i want some more what's he doin? please sir. i want some more more? he has asked for... thank you well he did say please yes he did and, thank you (all boys): thank you, thank you, thank you. >> one more little tidbit. it came >> one more little bit came out tonight. we had a conversation between
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jeff flake, senator coons and rod rosenstein. that conversation was had before the big announcement. rosenstein said they could do the investigation in a week but they would not learn more than we know. shannon bream and the fox news might team up next. shannon: brett kavanaugh makes it out of the senate judiciary committee as donald trump calls for an fbi investigation and latebreaking news, maybe holding back. delay for the weekend, brett kavanaugh's nomination to the supreme court takes a big step forward but also facing a delay as donald trump orders the fbi to conduct an investigation because of a last-minute condition set by republican jeff flake. we talk to a former doj prosecutor worked closely with

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