an a day with better breathing. watch out, piggy! (giggles) get symbicort free at saveonsymbicort.com. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. mark: hello, america. i am market within. we have a great guest from kentucky. >> it's a pleasure to be here. you are. mark: you are uniquely qualified to talk about the election given your background and want to talk briefly about your background will jump right in. first off, first office you ever held was governor of kentucky. >> that's correct. mark: the first -- >> he entire and that he did.

i want to get in with this in a moment. mark: you elected the 62nd governor of kentucky 2013. not many republican governors of kentucky in modern times? >> no, i may be like the fourth or so in the last hundred years. mark: you grew up with family, lived in a farmhouse in dirt f for, based on what i read. >> we were financially humble. that is certainly below the poverty level. mark: you grew up on a farm, raise crops and livestock in you had parents who instilled in you family and faith. you attended washington and lee university in virginia and rotc scholarship and upon graduation from active duty in the '90s army as an officer. you left the service having achieved the rank of captain. you founded several companies in

kentucky and invested in a number of others in the commonwealth as well as other states and i want to talk about this election. it's very important and circle back to your own experience and how you became governor. it's not a straight line. in a tough state and the keep talking about this blue wave. and some of the early indications are there is going to be or maybe some kind of blue wave and you are a man of government in history and politics so what you see happening here? >> i am a student of history. i grew up in a home with no television so we did read a lot and always been intellectually curious about a variety of things. i look at statistics and they seem to stick in my head and i do know this. in modern times they're only been twice when there was not a midterm shift in power. it is the norm and would be unusual if the democrats did not take control of the house. in fact, the average has been 31

seats in each of the midterm elections that have changed parties. the republicans have a 24c lead, i believe, which would imply their seven seats down. statistically, historically it's a given that they will lose the house. but there have been two times when that did not happen. i truly do believe this will be the third time. we are in -- the paradigm has shifted. we are in a different time and for people with all the narrative we get in what passes for mainstream media and i say that not pejoratively but they would call themselves, traditional media, would have us believe that this person who is now the president, donald trump, is not even really the present and should not have been in had no chance and does not deserve to be there and one step away from being impeached. this narrative they would have us believe is not really connected to what the american people believe or he would not have gotten 307 electoral votes.

the hoping that there is an appetite for what he's been doing that is not evident based on polling or what people are saying or what yard signs or bumper stickers are out there just as it is not evident in 2060 this will be the third time. will the republicans lose seats? yes they will. it will be shocking if they do not but they will lose seats. will they lose 31? i don't believe so. will they lose even 25? i don't believe so. the voters will decide. every district is different. the level of resentment that has held by a handful is not widespread among the people and i truly believe the people are grateful for the president and his willingness to shake things up and willingness to deliver on promises he made. he is doing -- people may or may not like the methodology but you can't argue with the results. he is someone who is exiting

like very few people who have preceded him in what he ran on. that's a refreshing change of pace for america. mark: these news reports talk about how the democrat base is all fired up. and how the republican base is relatively passive. i'm starting to see a change in this. there is potential backlash that the media are so one-sided and so over-the-top that the democrats whether hearings for what ever is taking place the attacks on ted cruz and other conservatives and republicans who serve in the administration at restaurants and so forth, you really think there's a relatively silent majority so call that out there that will show up in the midterm election? >> no way i would be the governor. no way that president trump would be the president if that majority did not exist and would not be possible. i do not have the support of the party or powers that be or any particular political assessment

nor did he. in fact i was in a more microcosmic level in kentucky and a shock to the system in ways that unnerve people because who was i? i was someone who did not have not kissed the right wings for backsides or waited in line or whatever the case may be and he's done the same thing. america is hungry for this. america is not a fool that so many in the political ranks would have us believe that we are. that is the greatness of america. people are, at the end of the day, not easily fooled. i truly believe there is a hunger for continuation of the path we are on which america standing firmly for life, liberty and the things that the show is here to discuss. these are the foundational tenets upon which this nation was built. it's refreshing when we have a leader in washington who believes this to his core.

mark: you mentioned the house of representatives. what about the state senate? when you look at the map the republicans should be winning a whole bunch of seats. republicans in the senate and house are not delivered on a lot of their promises. the president has. but spending is up, that is way out but they've done good things. not an additional penny for the loss of the president is trying very aggressively to get taking care of. how do you see the senate in the selection? governor bevin: i would be shocked if they did not pick up one or two seats. you are correct in a different environment, with a different sense of motivation in a different sense of urgency perhaps but the reasons for why we're not getting the things we could lay directional blame in any direction. we might pick up five, six or seven. truthfully, with far more potential pickups and we have

seats to defend as a publicans. i say this as a republican. i think we could pick up one or two pretty easily. i'd be shocked if we didn't come out with 53, 54 seats in the senate. mark: so what you're saying is on election night the first tuesday night in november, we all watch television or listen to the radio and the same people were shocked at donald trump's victory will be shocked at what happened in the midterm election. governor bevin: i believe so. it becomes this false narrative that for whatever reason has been predetermined in the minds of some and try to will it into perdition by talking about it nonstop as if it's a foregone conclusion. it's interesting because with in the insulated world that they have the conversation it sounds good and no one disagrees because they all want the false narrative to come true but the heartland in places like kentucky people aren't reading "the washington post" and not reading "the new york times" and they don't give a rip about what

some person in dc thanks about the political landscape. they don't. what they care about are the same things they have always cared about. they care about the security of their families, the physical security and the financial security. they care about their wallets and whether the money they earn is able to be kept as much as possible by themselves and to the extent it's not what the government does it is useful and productive. these are simple things. we are simple people. we're not easily fooled and not idiots but at the same time we want simple things in our lives. we want families to live in freedom and we want as little government in our lives as possible. i wear this button, it's a pair of scissors cutting through red tape, it's an indication people on my team wear this. i pledged when i was elected i would cut 30% of all regulation in our state in over three years but we are well underway to doing that.

people who say this is going to compromise our safety and security in environment but nonsense. still 100,000 rules telling us what we can or cannot do. americans are fed up with this. no one wants a dirty environment or dirty air or unsafe beach or whatever the case may be but they're increasingly less convinced that more government rules are the answer to give them liberty that they were innately created to crave and that we been blessed in this nation to have such an abundance that we can afford to take it for granted. i've asked my biggest threat to america was and i think it's our apathy. the fact you're so blessed that we can afford to not care. we have it so good that we can afford to not care and convinced our quality of life is not likely to change.

every culture and civilization since the dawn of man scribbled from within exterior wars, was munitions in capitals and borders. but worst not destroy cultures. words do not destroy civilizations. those are destroyed from within due to complacency and apathy. mark: beyond the presidency and election, do you think were beginning to crumble from within? governor bevin: no doubt. i wrote a letter back from years ago to someone in the faith-based immunity entitled where are the daniels? this is before i threw my hat into the political arena this was the one as a father, veteran, husband, taxpaying employer of other people, someone who is like so many of your viewers those out there living my life and i looked around the landscape and said what are we doing? we become numb and again, it's

not to pick on i'm a big believer in term limits. always have been. the good comes from complacency whether it's a business or government or church, pick the category, if people come to a custom to any one thing for too long it usually does not result in a better environment. to that end i looked around and said america is getting soft in the underbelly is getting soft. i didn't worry about this. i wrote this letter and said where are the daniels? where the people from among us, normal people, but are willing to rise up and give modern equivalent of defiance to the king and say this is not acceptable and this is not who we are in these are not the values that we hold. this has been something of concern for some time. you often hear people in politics talk about how her at a crossroads. i would beg to differ only in

this respect. in recent years we saw in 2016 and we are still there it's more of a fork in the road. let's take crossroads -- that implies options that fork in the road you go one way or the other in america is still but had very much in recent years been at this fork in the road. we will dog like hard to the left in a way that may have not been possible to return from work go to the right. mark: when we come back home and ask you what should these will begin be running on? you are a conservative and ran as a conservative and he fought through the primary system and elected governor of kentucky and i think your advice during these times could be useful. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget, almost every weeknight you can join us over at the rtv .com, see rtv .com and watch my show which is la vin tv could give us a call at 844 live in tv

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first office he won was governor top office in the state for commonwealth and donald trump runs or first off as president of the united states. why is that and what can candidates learn from now can? should they run scared or walked to the fire? what should they do? mark: . governor bevin: as it relates to candidates why it even happens in my case, i've always said listen, when people look at those running for office they should be less inclined to vote for those who desperately want to be a politically elected person. rather they should try to find the candidate willing to be that person. this is how iran and the president did the very same thing. he did not want it as much as he was willing to do it. americans are hungry for that kind of sincerity from people and i mean that. so much fake and posturing when

i ran i was the only one in the race willing to put it in writing everything i was going to do. i put out what it called a blueprint for a better kentucky. seven tenants and they were all things that people said if you talk about those, let alone put them in writing will never win. things like right to work and school of choice things like cutting red tape and modernizing the tax code and things like tackling the underfunded pension system. these are often ignored by people in considered third rai rails, do not touch them. the president did in similar ways the same thing. he talked about things people for generations and in recent years have wanted to be talked about and have talked about in quiet circles amongst themselv themselves. the idea that someone is willing to lead on the things is the degree of boldness, some might see it and very unusual in the world of politics. yet, people are hungry for it.

not because everything that came out of my mouth, his or others of the same approach is correct and that's not the methodology is always perfect or that any individual, myself or anyone else, has everything figured out. but i always tell people listen, if you don't want me to fight for these things, don't vote for me. never -- people would say in this group you may not talk about that and i say why? not going to change what i believe or what i'm going to fight for in order to accommodate someone. not content to be something i'm not in order to get a vote. it's that fakeness that people are fed up with. everything has been so contrived with consultants. i will share with you and it's at the heart of your question. what should candidates do? what they do or don't do is up to them. i've never paid 1 cent for a poll in my life. not as a candidate or as governor. at the end of the day speak the truth, tell people what you will do and don't waver from it. be bold in your conviction and don't talk about things you don't know about.

talk with passion about what you do know about. if you are willing to be that person people will engage. if they don't you should not be the person representing them. to me it's a simple approach. shoot straight with people. be honest. never had a speechwriter i don't write anything out. at my inauguration speech, state of the commonwealth address, i talked to people. in a similar way we having this conversation. i will tell you this, mark. i love america. my reason for doing this is i love america. it does concern me. governor bevin: you are jittering up. governor bevin: it is emotional to me. it concerns me that we are throwing away this noble experiment. at this greatness, one and a half million people have died in uniform.

1.5 million census nation consumption and we have it so good that we do not care. this is what concerns me. for me, i want people to serve in public office who love this country. the reason i respect the president, among others, he genuinely loves america. he loves america. he would fight to the end for america and he is doing it. the vitriol and the scorn and ridicule from people who don't aren't even worthy of caring his water that he takes day in and day out, the mindless dribble that passes for enlightenment from people is remarkable because it's nonstop and never seen it anything like it. while he's a third generation american device like someone who is a first generation. my mother's father and grandparents all came to ellis

island and it's something about someone who comes recently they have a passion and appreciation for what liberty is because they come from somewhere where it isn't. their willingness to fight for that and preserve it for their children and their children's children is powerful. it's the greatness of america and we were losing that and we still are in some measure but this is a president who fights for that and that's what i've been trying to fight for. what i'm trying to do is encourage 13, five, ten, 50 people who will inspire similar amounts of people so that perhaps a generation from now when we need the next abraham lincoln that young person will have been inspired during this period in time because someone was willing to step up and be humored down. i will tell you what. america is worth it. i will say this. your viewers would imagine this but the political world is more

squarely and surly and nasty than the even imagine it to be. it's more thankless and more of a cesspool than i wished it were. more bureaucratic and more mindless and more emotionally driven and less logically driven than they would even imagine it to be. and yet, someone will do it. so why should someone not be so many who shares the values we have. someone will make the rules. mark: have integrity and speak the truth. explain the problems the country faces. have some potential solutions and some arguments. get off the dribble and get the nonsense and yet it is difficult in some ways, isn't it? were bombarded with us day in and day out. you watch cnn or msnbc or watch "the new york times" and it is day in and day out and looking for little things to attack someone or breaking down the president tweets syllable by

syllable so it takes unique human beings to rise above that and run for public office. you are saying that is what we must do. governor bevin: there's a certain thickness of skin that is required but it helps to come from a certain background. the blessed to be a compilation of life experiences. i grew up below poverty level in a humble way to serve the military and come up through a hard knock world as some would describe it but blessed by that. mainly strong and resilient. i have buried my oldest child. that changes you. ineffectual life in ways i cannot begin to articulate. all these life experiences allow a person to either learn from that and do for others. one of the or not or to be selfish i was 17 years old and my mother hereby a wood stove and had no central heat this

winter and cold was standing by the stove my mother said were all different. i was the second of six. she said he will grow up and do different things to different abilities and she said make sure whatever you do -- my father and i don't care what you do but make sure at the end every day you give back more than you take. how blessed i was to been raised to your mother like that and father like that. he taught us to serve other people about herself and that's what our founding fathers did. why george washington asked when asked to be president, not done enough for my country. a person in america, with all due respect to you, my president and myself, but not one person in america who could say to my face have i not done enough for my country? mark: be right back.

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black. >> live from americas' headquarters. canada and the united states reaching a deal that will preserve the trade pact. the agreement will allow greater us access to canada's dairy market and address canadian concerns about potential auto tariffs. negotiators were waiting to meet a september 30th deadline. tomorrow will be one year since the worst mass shooting in modern us history.

if the people were killed and hundreds of other were injured on october 1 of last year when the government opened fire on a music festival in las vegas. bright marquees on the strip will go dark in honor of the victims. one of several remembrances plant including a blood drive, candlelight vigil at sunrise service that would include 582nd moment of silence. i'm going green now back to "life, liberty and levin". mark: governor matt bevin of kentucky, you had an interesting road to the governorship and i think it could be illustrative to people now and illustrative to those who could be saying what can i do and you are one of those people. give us a synopsis of how this happened? >> sure. there's a long story and short story.

the in between story is what i alluded to earlier. i looked across the landscape and realize there need to be in women of conviction and men and women of honor and integrity were not owned, preowned for the even get into elected office by some constituency or interest group or someone who groomed them. or anointed them and who will be in public office and make decisions and there needs to be a return to a belief in and a recognition of and utilization of of, by and for the people. it's a real thing. it really truly only works if the people take advantage of it and if the people are engaged. we have become lost in a political play. mark: you were motivated by things like the declaration of independence. governor bevin: of all the crazy things to think about our founders who pledged their

lives, fortunes and sacred honor. there was not a bumper sticker. that was not a campaign slogan. they literally gave their lives, fortunes and sacred honor. they knew that if they were to lose they would lose everything including their lives. some of them did. yet, they did it anyway. where are those people from among our own ranks? eyepatch of this was not only to try to be when i was not seen on the political front try to be an inspiration knowing that with my limitations and shortcomings there is someone far better than me and many bodies that could and should run and what if i could inspire them to do it by showing a normal person can step up, take the things in abuse and whether through it and prove that things can be done. mark: you announce that you would run and you take on the most powerful man in politics at the time. the senate republican leader. and you took a lot of slings and arrows and millions of dollars are spent to rewrite your

history. and to change who you are and you do not have the funds to counter it so tell us about that. governor bevin: the first time -- this is my second time i ran for office and the first time i did run for u.s. senate and ran against the then senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. i always voted for him. i voted for him that year in the general election because relative to the alternative he was the better choice. i believe in the importance of voting. i don't think people should settle. per se but you should chose the best result there. i do not vote for him when i ran against him. i voted for michelle. i'll be clear about that. the system needed to be shaken. was not anything personal about him or not even a little bit. the system itself had took on -- think about this. when our founders started this country they looked at the forms of government including the ones they most recently come from and what do they intentionally do?

they embraced the house of commons concept and rejected the house of lords. they intentionally did not re-create that. i say with all due respect to spent their entire lives in washington dc we've created a modern-day incarnation of the house of lords in the form of career politicians. in both parties of all ideologies in this idea that somehow people are entitled to their seat with a habit for as long as they live. and they get to self-selected self propagate and choose the next people that would follow them is an insult to the american people. mark: but you lost but you had a big showing and starkly you had a good showing. governor bevin: we've got people to think and talk. mark: and then he said okay, i'm not going. what did you do next? governor bevin: i do not plan to run again. i wanted to rock the vote and shake people from their apathy. when i did run for governor were

three republicans already in the race and all good men. i knew them all. what have voted for anyone over them over the two attorney general and was the nominee from the other side but i waited went to the first lincoln day dinner and heard them speak and i realized we needed someone to really make hard decisions. two hours before the filing deadline i filed. mark: you filed. governor bevin: not one elected republican during the entire primary, not one elected republican in the entire state supported me or endorse me. i won by 410 thousands of 1%. eighty-three votes in a statewide election. god has an amazing sense of humor. he really does. mark: you went on the general election which they also didn't thank you could win benign they said i do not have a chance i was never in a margin of any poll which is why i don't put

much stock in polls. they were all done by other people down by 5% or more in every election but i won by 9%, more than 9%, not even close. my point is this, i do not go from being five down to up nine in three days. the reality is he goes back to the silent majority we talked about. they do exist. they don't put stickers on or yard start find out but they vote and they care about their family in america in the future. mark: this is a very inspirational story because you were elected in 2013, not that long ago. people are running out there n now, members of the house and senate, republican who are freshly running in open seats against incumbent democrats and keep in mind your experience that's important. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget almost every weeknight you can watch levintv and see me there. join our great conservative community. here's our unit. go to see rtv .com /-slash mark or give us a call at 844

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mark: governor, let's get specific. what do you think two, three, four, most important issues are that governments at all levels should be addressing in candidates should address and the american people need to be alerted to? governor bevin: several things. i've alluded to this but cutting that regulation. we make it so difficult for young entrepreneur or newly arrived american or someone who's been here for years to pursue the american dream as we have historically known it to exasperate suffocation of overregulation and bureaucracy is destroying the innovative spirit.

that's one thing. number two, the amount of debt we are piling on this nation is criminal frankly. there is no chance that it will ever be repaid. both parties are doing it. most recently this latest budget that was passed was an absolute insult and should be told was not the proudest moment of a republican run administration and congress. it just was not. we owe better than that to the next generation. $21 trillion in counting the fact that anyone still buys our debt under the assumption that will pay them back is a marvel to me. the only reason we can play the game we see what's happening right now in countries like venezuela saw what happened in zimbabwe, so what happened in other places around the world over the years greece and all these places. what happens is eventually the paper must be paid. we are the world's reserve currency. we get to print it and people

still buy it. we still dilute the value of the money that has been saved and we had not yet paid that paper the paper will get paid. heaven help us if america is no longer the world reserve currency and we can't print it at will. that's another topic that is not to be addressed with a sense of earnestness in seriousness because yes, you can kick it on the road for your political career but shame on any man or woman who steps into political office and is not worried about what they are doing to the people that will follow them. the other thing is the absolute crisis brewing in our pension systems. as surely as we're having this conversation the pension systems and public pension systems in america are going to collapse in the next five, ten or 15 years but it's coming and people say there's no chapter in bankruptcy code for a state to declare the company. there isn't but that does not mean they will not go bankrupt. doesn't mean they will not become insolvent. kentucky is the worst funded pension system of any in america, illinois and new jersey and connecticut in california

and others are down there at the bottom of the pile but this is not a place any of us would aspire to be. the pension benefit guaranty corporation, private sector, depth and an seasonal plan when it's considered to be in crisis at the risk of insolvency they step in when the plan gets to 80% funded or less. they sees the plan and paid out maybe 15 cents on the dollar and that is the end of it. there are very few public pension plans in america and in kentucky not a single one that's close to 80% funded. hundreds of thousands of people are under the impression they will continue to get a pension benefit is 16% funded. i'm being fought by people in my own party and outside might party to try in the media to save a system. trying to meet the obligation and doing something that never has been done in the reality is i put billions and billions of dollars in at the expense of other thing to try to shore up and preserve a system or promises are made and actuarial

assumptions were not accurate and we've assumed rates will return and made promises with no one running those promises and the gig is about to be up. in america this is somewhere between five and ten trillion dollar problem of unfunded liability depending on which assumptions use what you assume the market will produce. these are issues people in elected office and got to take seriously. the greatest that to our nation in addition to her apathy is our financial insolvency. if we -- look i don't mean to put on the country but spain the spanish armada they once ruled the seas of the world and had battleships in their harbors resting because they can't even afford to maintain them or take them out. if we think it can't happen to us in america, how arrogant, how delusional, how disregarding of history are we if we don't think

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mark: governor, let's say you're wrong and there's this huge blue wave and they take the house, big numbers, chip away at the senate and the body told us about peach mint in his math investigations, the country will go through some kind of hell, will it not? governor bevin: it would be chaotic and to the detriment not only to the whole political system but of the sanity of your average person who pays attention to that but frankly, the entire foundations of this nation. it really would be. it would be very detrimental to our way of life. mark: here's the thing, despite all the attacks on the president, look at the economy. economy is chugging along beautifully, people are getting jobs, unemployment in all facets all races and genders way down and he regulations that you talked about viewers can develop

their products and market them. look at our foreign policy and look what he's done with israel and with iran and north korea look what he's doing with china and russia. if the democrats have this new massive sweep and try to take out the president of the united states because these there. he dared to win in 2016 the enemies will be thrilled. it will be emboldened. i think it could be dangerous. governor bevin: no question about it. here is the important thing to understand. without beating the apathy drum, the greatest danger is the people who love america and who value the principles of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and believe in the constitutional principles upon which we are founded, if they sit at home and don't get engaged and i encourage your listeners to not just themselves but to find one, three, five, ten, 50 or a hundred people. using social media in word-of-mouth and talk to people at church and at work and talk to people wherever you go and

spend your time and encourage them to get out and vote and to vote their values and not their party. this is important to understand. the values we talk about shared by people of all political stripes. the time to be partisan think about what is in your party's best interest but think about which values the nation was built on which values matter to you as an individual, as a community and to us as a nation and to vote those values and not your party. mark: can you imagine what would happen to our courts? to the supreme court? can you imagine if this president can but his imprint on the court the way obama did which was massive, ideological change in the circuit court and so forth. we seem to be in a position that a republican and donald trump went the republicans take the house and senate is intolerable. they want to to doctor eyes and all-powerful government.

they're trying to undo the election. they talk about impeaching cavanaugh or clarence thomas and talk about impeaching the president of the united states. have you heard talk like this before? governor bevin: this is what they use to refer to as sedition. if the last recourse for small mines. when they cannot be apologist for their own line of thinking they run to the court by people who will paint -- it's the hobgoblin of little minds. it really is. mark: we'll be right back.

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[♪] mark: governor matt bevin of kentucky. i'll ask you a question i ask a lot of guests here. where do you see this nation in five to 10 years. >> it depend on us. winston churchill was referred to as the lion of england. he once duly noted, i am not the

lion. the people of england are the lions. history has called upon me to deliver. we are at a similar point in our nation's history. are we prepared and are we willing to step up? are we willing in each of our own respective ways to deliver the roar? it may not be easy or fun. that's what's going to determine the trajectory of america. if this is a gift, this noble experiment we have been given at great sacrifice, this freedom we talk about that was paid for by those we talked about earlier. what are we going to do with this gift? are we going to squander it? we are running out of time because we have it so good. this is why i encourage people, talk to your children, vote your values, be engaged. it matters.

mark: it's been a pleasure. thank you, governor. check us out next time on ""life, liberty & levin"." toward that blessed day, the day they hope will shift the balance of power in the house and particularly in the senate. the polls don't look great in the senate. they have to run the table in order to take that chamber, but if they do they plan to sammy president