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pocahontas is considered a conservative. >> hannity: and 36 days, five weeks from tomorrow, you have the power to shock the world again in the media and on the left. we will be back tomorrow. let not your heart be troubled. here is laura. a next video over. >> laura: i mean, you should just move here, hannity. in the makeup room now. >> hannity: do you want to kick me out? i don't even want to be in d.c. it is a swamp. it's a sewer. i don't really like it here. i like a few people but not very many to be honest. >> laura: sean, you did something to my folders. they are all out of order. >> hannity: i don't understand this. they come in with a pile of papers that is all labeled perfectly. they cut it out with scissors. me, i've got papers like all over the place. >> laura: yeah, it's called organization, hannity. you should learn about it.
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i have a staff. that's why. >> hannity: thanks for sharing. >> laura: i love having you. okay, take care. i am laura ingraham. this is the "the ingraham angle." coming to you from washington tonight, including in his first television interview, the ex-boyfriend of cavanaugh accuser julie swetnick. he says that there are major issues with her credibility. also, as the obsession over his high school yearbook continues, what about dr. ford's? "the ingraham angle" got our hands on three years of these textbooks. it is fun to look through them. it is like a walk down memory lane. we are going to share our findings. but first, christine blasey-for christine blasey-ford's credibility gap. that is the focus of tonight's angle. rachel mitchell, the prosecutor hired by the senate judiciary committee to question brett
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kavanaugh and his accuser, christine blasey-ford last week hasn't produced a report. her findings are fascinating and speak to dr. ford's credibility. her overall appraisal, she finds the assault allegations against kavanaugh to be weak, and in the legal context, here is her bottom line. she writes "he said-she said case is incredibly difficult to prove, but this case is even weaker than that. dr. ford identified other witnesses to the event, and they either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. for the reasons discussed below, i do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case, based on the evidence before the committee. nor do i believe that the evidence is insufficient to satisfy the preponderance of evidence standard." that's a lower standard. mitchell then offers a nine-point critique of ford's account based on the evidence at hand. she writes "dr. ford has not offered a consistent account of
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when the alleged assault happened." in her july 6th text, she said it occurred in the mid-1980s, and then, she changed her story in the letter to dianne feinstein, where she claims it happens in the early '80s. but in her polygraph statement in august, ford said the assault happened one high school summer in the '80s. it changes there. she explicitly crossed out the word "early." ms. mitchell continues, saying dr. ford has struggled to identify judge kavanaugh as the assailant by name. it dr. ford has no memory of key details of the night in questio. details that could corroborate her account. >> in your letter, you said that they went down the stairs, and they were talking with other people in the house. >> >> correct. >> were you able to hear that conversation? >> i was not able to hear that conversation. >> how do you know there was a
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conversation? >> i am just assuming since it was a social gathering, people were talking. i don't know. >> you said you do not remember how you got home, is that correct? speak out i do not remember, other than i did not drive home. >> has anyone come forward to say to you, hey, remember i was the one who drove you home? >> no. >> laura: fort can't recall who invited her to the party, how she got to the party, the location of the party, where the alleged abuse occurred. it doesn't know where it was, nor how she got home or even how she arranged a ride there. all of this leads mitchell to her next point. dr. ford's account of the alleged assault has not been corroborated by anyone she identified as having attended. including her lifelong boyfriend. judge kavanaugh, mark judge, they all deny any such party ever occurred. ford's friend, leland kaiser, goes further, saying that she
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has no recollection of being at a party with kavanaugh and never knew him. now, recall that when dr. ford was questioned about her really good friends testimony, she kind of threw her under the bus. >> do you have any particular motives to ascribe to leland? >> i guess we could take a little at a time. leland has significant health challenges, and i am happy that she is focusing on herself and getting the health treatment that she needs, and she let me know that she needed her lawyer to take care of this for her. >> laura: so, guys, we have inconsistencies, we have discrepancies, and inconsistencies, and shades of changing the story. it goes on and on and on. now, if the media cares to examine kavanaugh's credibility
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on questions of whether he drank too much, whether he blacked out, fine, have added. do it. but you've got to hit these other issues as well. to me, it is just fair. that is the question of media credibility, reporter credibility. it can't be off limits. if you're going to happen up substantiated, uncorroborated allegation after the process of confirmation has already concluded, and you're going to go before the committee, and you're going to say all this stuff, and then the media is not going to question you, i just find that to be absurd. by the way, rachel mitchell goes on to suggest that in her professional opinion, forward, as i said, has not offered a consistent account of the alleged assault. and so, this just keeps on shifting and shifting. the therapist indicates that four boys were in the bedroom,
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then forward it told "the washington post" that four boys were at the party, but only two were in the bedroom during the assault. in her testimony, she says four boys and her friend, leland, were present at the party, but she couldn't recall the name of the fourth boy. no one claiming to be the fourth boy as he had to come forward. now, perhaps the most damning of her critique was this one. she has struggled to recall recent events relating to the allegation, enter testimony regarding recent events raises further questions about her memory. >> did you show a full or partial set of those marriage therapy records to "the washington post"? >> i don't remember. i remember summarizing it for her what they said, so i'm not quite sure if i actually gave her the record.
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>> laura: okay, forget or recall about the assaults 35 or 40 years ago. she couldn't recall events from just a few weeks earlier. during her testimony, ford couldn't remember if she gave "the washington post" a complete or partial list of her therapist notes. that's a pretty big deal. or whether she took her polygraph the day of her grandmother's funeral. that's a pretty big day to forget. now, none of this is of interest to the media. they spent the weekend fact-checking, questioning the credibility of judge kavanaugh. >> it has to matter, in my view, to the senators who are considering their votes, but whether or not judge kavanaugh actually lied about his activities and his behavior over the course of his younger days. >> there were a lot of places where i thought he was not forthcoming, not telling the truth. >> questions into whether or not he lied in his testimony, relevant to his broader credibility. >> it is not so much about the
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accusers as it is about kavanaugh's credibility. >> laura: and lights of mitchell sober analysis, release without the input of republicans or others, should we not be word about the credibility of dr. ford's account. it's relies on recall, sometimes of long ago, corroborating witnesses, and evidence. but when all three are called into question by a seasoned prosecutor like mitchell, isn't it time for the media to at least entertain the possibility that they may have gone too far in their coverage? and that's the angle. joining me now for reaction, democratic strategist and former advisor to bill and hillary clinton, richard good speed and former secret service agent and nra tv host. why aren't they taking the report from mitchell a little bit more seriously? >> this whole notion that we are
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looking at this as a criminal proceeding as a misdirection. and i think actually people feel sorry for rachel mitchell, that she thought she was being brought into a series proceeding and is being used as a pond. as evidenced by the fact that when she started questioning kavanaugh about july 1st, man, she got cut off, right? and now the last we have ever heard of her, when she seemed to be getting close to something that was fairly damning. a real prosecutor would have spoken to witness his face to face, not just in that kind of perverse setting. >> laura: hold on. i really want to keep us focused. one thing at a time. my question was a simple one. why aren't the democrats, journalist, for that matter, why aren't they more interested in examining the facts of this case? i understand people are emotional. dems come at their conclusions in different ways. there is false memory syndrome, people who suppressed memories.
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i get all that. however, there are real discrepancies in her own account that she has sold to "the washington post," dianne feinstein. ms. mitchell is not a political actor. she did not come in here as a trailblazing pundit and say i want to exonerate kavanaugh. it seems like it is way overboard on the other side. but it seems like no one wants to touch ford's credibility, which i think it is odd. >> let's let the fbi question everybody who was there, including my charge, whose girlfriend set at -- >> laura: i get what you are saying. i am focusing on christine blase ford. >> she was very specific about the bedroom, the bathroom, the stairway, the running outcome of the configuration of the house. this is traumatic for her in a way that it wasn't for anyone
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else, so -- it they said didn't remember. >> laura: her closest friend said that she never met brett kavanaugh. >> the lawyer's letter said okay, listen to dr. ford. >> laura: threw her under the bus. >> so let's let the friend get examined by the fbi, and we will see what she actually believes. >> laura: all right, dan, your reaction to just what we heard from dr. ford last week. about this very detailed, very kind of matter-of-fact report from mitchell. >> welcome of the report is devastating. this is a trained prosecutor in these matters. i did criminal investigations for many years, granted i did not do sexual abuse, but interviewing people, and he's
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playing a democratic activist on the show, and frankly, i'm going to pray for his soul. i mean that because his role as the democrat goons, who took part in the shaming of this man's character, not willing to answer an honest question about the credibility of ms. mitchell's report. janet napolitano is all people, refusing to answer a simple question. by all means, her story was heard, the republicans were very respectful. i've been respectful of that. i think it's time that everyone else pay the same respect to judge kavanaugh and start to answer honest questions about the massive, gaping holes in christine blase ford's story. it is only fair. >> i will concede that the fbi should get to the bottom of every one of these facts.
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they should put chirstine blasey ford through the mill and make sure that if there are holes -- >> have you ever done a federal background investigation? just asking. have you ever done one. >> i have tried cases in federal court. >> see, i did that. you don't know how this works. what you are saying is that the fbi does criminal investigations. they don't. what they do -- >> they get facts. because they don't do criminal investigations into areas they have no purview on. this is not what the fbi does. you are making this sound like they're going to put people on polygraphs. it is a lie and a misdirection. come on. >> laura: i want to talk about how the goalposts have shifted in this case from whether an assault occurred to you whether brett kavanaugh drinks too much or drink too much in college. let's watch.
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>> reporting that kavanaugh and his crowd were characterized as loud, obnoxious frat boy like drunks. the hardest drinkers on campus. >> the former friends and classmates, and roommates who say that he was, as we heard yesterday, they say that he was a sloppy drunk. >> you have these other people from parts of his life who have said that he was belligerent when he was drunk and other things. >> laura: well, i i don't know. having been to a few dartmouth attorney parties in my day, that's a lot of people. i think you lose so many people. he was a sloppy drunk. is there a neat drunk at? i have never heard of that? you can be a happy drunk. but i just think this is looking so ridiculous. it now it's like an animal has kind of deal. is that where we are. he's a sloppy drunk.
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oh, come on. >> trying to give him this opportunity to say look, he didn't really remember things because he did drink to excess, which a lot of his friends say. look at this. if the woman was up for supreme court justice and reported herself, she would be labeled hysterically. it is amazing that a guy can do that and act like oh, well, what do you expect? he is under attack. i'm sorry, those are the issues that people are trying to get out. >> laura: i wouldn't say a woman was being hysterical. if she was actually defending herself against all charges, i think people have a right -- >> asking how much they drink. >> laura: he was there for hours and hours. i mean, he apologize. i think it was smart for him to do that. guys, thanks so much. doubling down on the cabinet charges might have seemed like a good idea for democrats, but how will that strategy play out in
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november? one democrat perfects that the kavanaugh allegations could be responsible for our red wave. if democrats this fall fall short this november, they will suffer the rightful consequences of using the victims of sexual assault to advance a political agenda. o'brien joins us now to discuss. brian, this tactic has worked in the past, why wouldn't it work now? >> we have seen it at different points. people have used people's backgrounds to slime in d.c. that is not new. so through the middle of december, there was a victim of assaults with allegations that could have been held, or investigated with the degree of discretion. the degree of care for this woman, but instead, it is dropped as a political bomb right before the final. i am telling you, that not only victimizes her again, but those of us who have been victimized
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by different folks in our lives, sexually, it has re-traumatized millions. so for folks that are watching this out in america, i guarantee you a whole bunch of people are incredibly frustrated, left, red, and center, on having to go through some of these accusations in their own lives, let alone watching this woman be dragged through the mud. there is a line that has been crossed. >> laura: there is some polling that indicates it is kind of split. most republicans believe kavanaugh, most democrats don't. independents are kind of split. in north dakota, heidi heitkamp now has a deficit and issues that voters are sizing is the cow kavanaugh hearings. we will see how that plays out. it is still early, but that is not great news for her. in missouri, claire mccaskill is down two points and one poll. obviously, she is the incumbent. has been fairly popular against josh hawley.
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also after the kavanaugh issue and after she came out against judge kavanaugh. could this be, when it all boils down to the end of this whole saga, could this be that the year of the woman that we saw in 1982 becomes the year of the man, or the year of the women who are sick of all of these charges? not to try to put too fine a point on this, maybe it is going to flip? it could happen. >> you know, i think there is two things. a less gender, and more of a partisan issue at first. we are seeing a lot of republicans who whether or not they show up in november, rising up and saying this is a land that has been crossed. it is way too far. the real question is independence, which right now, they are split. if you see an nci investigation come back and say there's nothing there, independent voters and a whole lot of other people, even conservative democrats are going to see
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through this for what it is, and it is an absolute flop that is unforgivable. >> laura: all right, bryan. thank you. and as democrats push to investigate the wild allegations made by julie swetnick it, her former boyfriend joins us and asked her to explain why he thinks she is not reliable. stay right there. when their windshield got chipped. so they scheduled at safelite.com. they didn't have to change their plans or worry about a thing. i'll see you all in a little bit. and i fixed it right away with a strong repair they can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> tech: being there whenever you need us that's another safelite advantage. >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace.
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>> laura: now the claims of brett kavanaugh's third accuser, julie swetnick, are so outlandish that we were skeptical from the start. that doubt seems to pressure has numerous of stories from her pastor trickle down, one from our next guest, richard vinneccy, the ex-boyfriend of seven years, claiming she threatened him and his family.
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we are joined in a television exclusive by mr. vinneccy, along with his lawyer, mr. hanson. thank you for joining us tonight. richard, what are your motivations for coming forward now? >> yes, there have been political issues. i want to tell the truth. that is one of the reasons why i came. >> laura: now, you claim, richard, that ms. swetnick threatened you after you broke up with her. what types of threats threats are you alleging? >> she basically called me many times and said you will never, ever see your unborn child alive. and i'm just going to go over there, i'm going to kill you guys. >> laura: she said she was going to kill you? >> yes. and that has told me a little bit. >> laura: well, you told
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politico originally, richard, that she threatened your family and your baby. >> correct. >> laura: but you mentally unborn child, is that right? >> i meant the unborn child. i was not married at the time when this happened. >> laura: did she ever discussed with you in your seven year relationship, from 1994-2001, the issue of sexual assault, or did she mention ever having been sexually assaulted? >> never, never once she mention that to me. just to talk about everything, she never once mentioned that at all. >> laura: did she have a political background? was she interested in politics? >> not that i know of. you know, she was always wanting to be the center of attention. she was always trying to impress me. she was exaggerating everything. if anybody knows julie,
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everything that came out of her mouth was just exaggerations. she never mentioned that to me at all. that was something that i was very surprised to see. i was very surprised to see her making these accusations because she had never, ever mentioned that to me at all. >> laura: now, you filed a restraining order in march of 2001 after these threats. you said in repeated phone calls to you, threatening you, and your unborn child and your family. but you never follow through with it. you never appeared in court. if you were so threatened by julie swetnick, your ex-girlfriend, then why didn't you follow through? >> that is a question that everybody is asking. the reason i didn't was because i knew that i would have to see her again. i talked at that time to my family, and we decided not to do anything. not to follow through.
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i am not the type of person, i knew the type of person julie is, and i was afraid, to be honest with you. so i just decided to leave it alone. i thought it would go away because at that time, the only thing i was concerned about was my family. we changed our numbers and moved, and that is basically what we did. and we never heard from her again. >> and after you came forward and that initial interview with politico, did you hear from any of her representatives? or did you hear from her at all? >> not at all. not at all. >> laura: your own credibility has been called into question, and i know you know this, by her lawyer, michael avenatti. he appeared earlier tonight on cnn. let's watch. >> her boyfriend says she can't be trusted, that it's a credibility thing. swetnick can't be trusted.
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is this a threat to you? >> no, it's ludicrous, chris, first of all. one lawsuit was filed. it was almost immediately dismissed. the claims by her ex-boyfriend, i mean who doesn't have an ex-boyfriend or an ex-girlfriend who might say bad things about them? >> laura: well, and ex-boyfriend, you know. if breakups are brutal, right? they can be brutal. in your case, it was really not fun. people are going to say you don't like her because you were with her for seven years and that it about ending. >> yeah, that's a -- like i say before, if anybody knows the julie swetnick i know, if you asked me personally if i believe her, i don't believe her. personally, i don't believe her. i really don't believe her. nobody knows julie swetnick better than me. and the facts are that i know her. that is why i came here to tell the truth. i know how she is.
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>> laura: well, you were with her for seven years. you are describing her like she is a total nightmare, but he spent seven years with her. >> for the first couple of years, we had a nice relationship. we weren't together for seven years. we were together off and on for seven years. the first couple of years, about a year and a half, and then another couple of years we were in bethesda. it then transferred to panama. i came back a couple of years later. we were seeing each other once in a while. but the more i saw her, the more i saw her, i basically experienced what she was doing. i just didn't like it, and the fact that she was lying to me, she pretty much talked about everybody. she talked about lawsuits. she was trying to -- at one point, i remember she told me that she was filing a lawsuit, harassment lawsuit
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against american airlines. i said you were going to have to stop this lawsuit thing because it is ridiculous. she would talk to me about her family. she would -- every time we would get into a fight, she would get right in my face. she would ask me to hit her. i mean, that's just really weird. most of my friends did not like her. in fact, i can testify about that. >> laura: hold on, richard. hold on. she was like "hit me?" why would she say that? >> i don't know. for any minor issues that we ha had, she would always get into my face. the first time, it was like oh, my god. this is incredible. she would get right in my face. she would say "hit me." hit me, richard. she would say remember what
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happened to my ex-boyfriend. i would just walk away. it was just impossible to me. >> laura: richard, richard. i know you've had some financial issues in the past, and you haven't shied away from that, correct? you've been underwater on a mortgage, you've had your own issues. >> that is correct. >> laura: when you watched her testify last week, when she went through the very heartfelt description of what happened to her at the hands of what she said was brett kavanaugh, was went through your mind? when the rest of the country was think she so credible, she so believable, you knew her for seven years. what was going through your mind? >> well, first of all, when i first heard her, her name mentioned on tv, i'm thinking oh, my god, . >> laura: she obviously didn't -- excuse me, refreeze. she didn't testify. when you heard her come up with
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these allegations -- the hideous attack it, a gang rape, a sexual assault. you have been with her for seven years. did she ever say anything about gang rape? >> never. never. we talked about everything. she never once mentioned this to me at all. >> laura: richard, marsia, thank you so much for being with us tonight. we will probably try to have you back if other things come up, but we really, really appreciate it, and we appreciate your time. all right, another exquisite tonight, brett kavanaugh's high school yearbook under intense media scrutiny. but what about christine blasey-ford? we have our hands on a few years worth of them, and we will reveal our findings next.
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>> laura: activists on the left have created basically a deadly ideology where harassment and even doing bodily harm has
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become essentially a legitimate tool to allow this dangerous term to continue of the kind of stuff that we have been seeing is going to take the republic and our politics to places we dare not go. now we on "the angle" has been warning for some time about these increasingly hostile tactics on the left, and when to activist corner jeff flake in an elevator, they saw they have gotten results. tweeted shortly after i would go tell me again why should we shouldn't confront republicans where they eat, where they sleep, why they work, until then the demise of our democracy." and this weekend, a georgetown professor took a step forward, tweeting "look at these people. arrogant, entitled, all of them deserve miserable deaths, while feminist laugh as they take
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their last gasp. bonus. we castrate their corpses and feed them to the swamp. yes. well my. this is quite something. joining us for reaction, policy research. okay, we have so much to discus discuss. do they really believe that this extreme behavior is going to carry them to victory in november? >> they are either engaged in performance anger or destruction theater of the kind we have seen targeted against brett kavanaugh, or they are engaged in inciting violence against those with whom they disagree. you know, we have reached a tipping point here. and i thought we had reached at last year when the leftists shot up a baseball field where the congressional teams were playing and it nearly killed steve soliz. that actual act of violence i
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thought would wake up people on the left that they can have their radicalism, they can try to fundamentally transform the nation. but i thought that they would back off from there. their incitement to violence, and they are violent, radical behavior. instead what we have seen since that point is that they have actually ratcheted up. they think it works because over many, many years, and in fact, it has, not just here, but elsewhere are around the world. they are not backing off, they are actually ratcheting up. >> laura: it started in the campaign. we saw the violent reaction to then candidate trump when he traveled to california. we saw what happened when he planned to go to chicago. they basically threatened him out of chicago. threatened violence and so fort forth. okay, i have to get your thoughts on this next exclusive. while the media was busying itself with announcing the high school that he attended,
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nobody was interested in the other side of the equation. the culture at christine blasey ford's high school. the pages inside, yes, there's some normal stuff. sports and all of that stuff, but also it is like a raucous party type of atmosphere. we have been talking about cavanagh's party habits, but what we know about ford's partying habits. nobody seems interested in asking this question. i think a lot of people are afraid to say anything because then you are shaming the victim, but this is not a criminal trial. this is the supreme court confirmation process with no corroborating witnesses, monica. >> you know what, laura, the feminist movement was all about equal treatment for women, right? but now, what we have seen with the bastardization of the
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#metoo movement, women are all to be treated like delicate flowers. women making accusations, some of which are true, some of which may be false, but they are all to be protected and some sort of insulated zone because they are never to be question. well, isn't that the exact opposite of what the feminist movement was all about? we're supposed to be treated as men are. well, okay, that's fine. then those allegations, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. let see her high school yearbook. i mean, was she the equivalent of a nun? i don't know, maybe she was in high school. but the fact that we are at this point, the battle of the high school yearbooks and a supreme court nomination hearing, this is theater of the absurd. >> laura: look, kids party. i mean, they joke about this. party for arbor day, celebrations, anniversaries. it is party culture. that is a fact. >> it was high school.
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>> laura: it was high school in the '80s. they are talking about kavanaugh. did you drink too much? he was a sloppy drunk. like there are any of these yearbooks, we've got three of them from when she was there. this is what the kids were doing at all of these schools. hold on, holton-arms and george georgetown prep, most of the schools that's where your reference landed in schools. linden and holton-arms, they had a lot of parties together, not so much georgetown prep. i have to play one thing for you. this is michael avenatti, talking about brett kavanaugh, going back to julie swetnick's outrageous allegations. the whole gang rape thing. kavanaugh was seen spiking punch. okay, versus what julie swetnick said earlier tonight on msnbc about the very same thing. we have the sound bites. put them against each other.
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let's watch. >> did you see brett kavanaugh you know, spiking the punch? >> i saw him giving red solo cups to quite a few girls during that time frame. there was punch at those parties. and i would not take one of those glasses from mark kavanaugh. brett kavanaugh excuse me. i saw him around it -- i won't say the punch containers. >> i had a telephone conversation with a woman who will go unnamed, who lives in florida, who told me directly that mark judge and brett kavanaugh would spike the punch with grain alcohol and quaalude quaaludes. >> laura: i mean it -- were almost out of time, monica. >> breaking news story. that one time in college brett kavanaugh through ice on someone. >> laura: oh, okay. he should definitely not be on the supreme court. >> we have gone from "brett kavanaugh is gang rapist -- this
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is where we are. >> laura: thank you so much, monica. and kanye west, we will show you the video they cut from air. they took it out. the next. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield.
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joining me now for debate. i think kanye has gotten everyone spun around. he is the brave one, going down to liberal la-la land and getting booed because he likes trumpet. >> i think he is getting booed because he is saying one outlandish thing over another. i can't figure out that she has admitted to struggling with mental illness, or if this is an actual political stance, or if he is misinformed? >> laura: can black people be supporters of trump and not be crazy? >> i don't think anyone can be. it now, honestly. it's hard because i think anybody who supports republicans, oh, they can't do it because that is a common talking point. there is no reason to support trump if you're african-america african-american. he has lowered the unemployment rate by 1% at this point.
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obama cut it in half. so the argument is that you would be a democrat because he cut it in half. >> laura: cells kanye west is this -- you know, he is an out their figure. i think it is interesting. i think he is doing like a whole performance art on the whole monolithic entertainment industry, and they don't know what to do. wait a second, he was cool 5 minutes ago. now he has a red hat on that says "make america great again," so he must be cuckoo. >> it was all good just a week ago. what i see from this whole situation, nothing less then a character assassination in social media. i was completely and totally dismayed when i posted kanye's picture of him on a jet and asked people what they thought on my instagram. feel free to follow me. if you see the comments, i couldn't believe it.
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it was outrageous, that the names that people called him. this is the same individual who people applauded. when he said "george bush doesn't care about black people," my friend on the other side said that was great. he enjoyed it when he said that. but the moment that you say something differently, when the moment you begin to say things that may be breaks or shatters groupthink and monolithic thought when it comes to being a republican or being conservative, you are considered an outcast. i don't see why we as a community, it is not just the black community, it is the entire country almost at this point, we talk about the folks on the left, why is it that we are in this place when it only comes to black people? you don't hear that when it comes to white americans. you don't hear that at all. >> laura: we are almost out of time. i will give you the last word on this. because trump is doing good things for the economy, it is good for all people. >> right. >> laura: it's a huge deal,
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democrats wanted to do it. trump actually got it done. >> but criticizing kanye because he is black. he just said earlier today he wasn't sure if he could figure out whether or not abraham lincoln was white or black. he says slavery was a choice. >> and he apologize for that. >> it doesn't matter. he is saying stupid stuff. have you always been correct and accurate in every statement you have made? >> no, absolutely not. >> people are entitled to make mistakes, and they are entitled to apologize. >> laura: you know what i want to do? i want to have another town hall. i want you both coming. we have to talk about this whole issue of race in america, where they both are. we have to have you both on. all right, thanks so much. in the entirety of dr. ford's kavanaugh accusations, relying upon a single memory. so could it be something called "false memory customer" a psychologist joins us now with some answers. (woman) learned to play an instrument.
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>> laura: the kavanaugh sexual assault allegations from christine ford are wholly reliant on the memory of one person, ford herself. no corroborating account. is it possible she created something known as a false memory? joining us now to explain what that means is robert mather, an expert in experimental psychology. so explain in simple terms very quickly how a false memory may be at play here. >> will, thank you for having me on, laura. there is volumes of research that shows that you can implant memories and children, such as being lost in the mall. kind of the key to that is that the image has to have a lot of details. it has to be thought about many times over and over again. easy to imagine. the ability allows us to kind of
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face our belief in the confidence of what we are retrieving. how easily we were called it. >> laura: now, what would spur you to create a false memory, doctor? >> well, some of the work has demonstrated that therapy itself -- this is not all types of therapy, but there are some issues in therapy were false memories are recovered, and of course, they are false. >> laura: so in other words if you are in therapy, you're talking about a problem you have currently, and in her case, it was with her husband, something about two doors, she wanted two doors at the front of her house. he got to may be upset about it. and then something did happen to her, and then she sees brett kavanaugh's name mentioned as a possible supreme court nominee, i mean how does the brain work it? i know that is a big question. >> that is the thing.
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there was donald thompson, he was a psychologist who studied a memory and eyewitness testimony. what mr. thompson did was he was on air, giving a discussion of this when a woman was brutally raped. she recalls seeing his picture, and said that he was one who did it. he had an airtight alibi, the fact that he was on television. >> laura: wow. oh, my gosh. this is the most fascinating interview of the whole show, other than the exclusive of swetnick's former boyfriend. thank you so much. with uncontrolled moderate-to-severe eczema,
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>> laura: it's time now for "the last thought." the media now saying that it brett kavanaugh is guilty of being a heavy drinker, and that disqualifies him pure dismissing the idea and then added this. >> i'm not a drinker. i can honestly say i have never
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had a beer in my life. it is one of my only good traits. i don't drink. whenever they are looking for something, i've never had a glass of alcohol. i've never had alcohol, you know for whatever reason. can you imagine if i had, what a mess i'd be? i'd be the world's worst. >> laura: oh, my gosh. we were screaming in the studio. hilarious. congratulations to the president and the whole team. all the time we have tonight, shannon bream and of the "fox news at night" is going to take it from here. >> shannon: all right, we will be watching your tweets. thank you very much, laura. we begin with a fox news alert. the confirmation votes for supreme court nominee at brett kavanaugh by the end of this week. the president says he is not limiting the fbi's investigation. they should do whatever they have to to get the answers. plus, president trump announces a new trade deal with mexico and canada, asra

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