of the confirmation vote saturday. we'll have more tomorrow night. thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. laura ingraham is standing by with this cochair motion filed by mcconnell. >> laura: exciting end of the week into the weekend with how these votes are going to go down. things are looking up for brett kavanaugh and will be looking forward to covering every aspect of this. it's been fun to have you in washington. >> sean: it's all yours. the swamp, the whole bit. i can't take it anymore. i'm out of here. >> laura: hannity, you go back to real america in long island. the oceanfront swamp. [laughs] >> sean: you are a way overpaid say that! >> laura: i think the gender pay disparity -- i'm feeling a trigger coming on.

i love having you on the show. >> sean: we will see. >> laura: it was great to have you here. you have a great trip home pit welcome to washington. i'm laura ingraham. this is the ingram angle. mitch mcconnell announcing that the senate judiciary committee has received a supplemental fbi background report on brett kavanaugh and we are also told that individual senators will be reviewing the contents in less than 12 hours from now. we'll keep you updated as they come in. also tonight, is dr. forde's story really falling apart? we expose key inconsistencies to her testimony tonight that others have, well, decide to look the other way. we'll also delve into the backlash against president trump for his comments about ford. plus a body language expert -- i

love that -- is here to take us through some of her more revealing answer from last week's hearing. i hope she doesn't do that to me. the body language thing. i don't want myself to be analyzed. if these allegations against him are proven false, what is judge kavanaugh's legal options? one of the nation's top defamation the lawyers will be here to tell us. first, though kavanaugh wake-up call the g.o.p. needed. that's the focus of tonight's angle. as ugly and vicious the war on brett kavanaugh has been, it might actually prove to be a gift for republicans. more fair-minded americans have grown weary of the democrats' perpetual intimidation tactics and stalling games. and i think they are beginning to see the smear campaign for what it is. as a result, the g.o.p. is more energized than they have been since, i think, right after the 2016 election. they want republicans to stick

together on capitol hill, not back down in the face of this leftist mob squad, and they want them to fight for what's right, which is what the president did last night in mississippi. >> how did he get home? i don't remember. "how did you get there"? i don't remember. how many years ago -- "i don't remember" -- where is the house? upstairs, downstairs, where was it? "i don't remember, but i had one beer." >> laura: of course, he nails it. totally nails it. for the crime of being honest? the left is flashing back. >> the president went to a new low yesterday even for him in mocking dr. ford. >> i can't even think of anything -- inappropriate isn't descriptive enough. it's mean. it's mean. >> not only a slap in the face

to dr. ford, but all survivors and women in general. >> laura: "you are mean, you are attacking victims, you don't have any empathy" -- no. he's making a series of common sense conclusions about ford's very shaky claim and shifting accounts that were based on an uncorroborated memory. last week, she said she came off as quite credible. after that mitchell report comes out, we begin to weigh what she said initially to what you said before the committee. it's a whole different story. president trump is speaking straight to the american people. he's reflecting their feelings, their frustrations about this whole thing. frankly, no republican even comes close to being as effective as president trump is. after two bruising and very nasty weeks, i actually see some good emerging. the kavanaugh battle has pulled the curtain back on just how

unprincipled and radical the democrats have become. a midterm that was once all about mueller's russia probe has now become a referendum on the politics of personal destruction, on due process, and on the presumption on innocence. and president trump's sliding spirit? it's become contagious. even among some in the g.o.p. establishment. >> this is not a search for the truth. this has been about search and destroy. >> it's time to put this embarrassing spectacle behind u us. the american people are sick of the displays that's been put on here in the u.s. senate. >> whether you are a trump republican, bush republican, mccain republican, libertarian or vegetarian, you are pissed. i've never seen the republican party unified as i do right now. >> laura: with the exception

of a few doubts like senator collins and murkowski, i think lindsey graham is like. they are really united. they are as united as they've been since may be 9/11. even establishment types, the ones you just heard, i can't remember a time where they sounded better. because they recognize now that when -- even a moderate bush republican like brett kavanaugh could be treated this way? any republican is vulnerable. now, how are the voters processing all of this? here are some of my collars from today's radio show. >> i heard the president last night? he wasn't mocking her. he was telling exactly what the american people need to know. >> when all of this is done and the fbi report comes out, that says there's nothing there, nobody is going to try to be smear this man's credit. >> my parents have voted their entire life voted democrats. my parents are livid that the democrats are trying to destroy a good man's name.

they are going to vote straight ticket republican and they are never going to look back. >> wow. meanwhile, democratic enthusiasm seems to be weaning a bit. according to a new npr poll, there were ten points separating the numbers of democrats and republicans who said the november elections were "very important." now that number is down to two points. the attacks against kavanaugh and the ongoing smear campaign have awaken the republican base, and not a moment too soon. and it's resonating far beyond the base, i think. president trump said as much last night: >> it's destroying him, and destroying his reputation. we can't let that happen. i want to do what's right for this country. it's a very important time in our country. the democrats party has become too extreme! this is an example of it! and too dangerous to be trusted

with power. that is why you must vote republican on election day and you have to -- >> laura: like i said before, a lot of the fair-minded voters, people not obsessed with politics every day, but basically have a pretty good barometer on what's right and wrong, these people are thinking, if the democrats can poison the confirmation of a qualified judge with a clean record, exemplary judicial record like a kavanaugh this? imagine what they are going to do if they actually get power back? if they are back in the senate? watch your wallet. a new fox news poll indicates that the kavanaugh fight is having a big impact on a key set of senatorial races. in north dakota, republican challenger kevin cramer is now leading senator heidi heitkamp by 12 points. 53-41. last month, he was only up by four, 48%-44%.

in a missouri senate race, it's all tied up in 43%. three weeks ago, incumbent democratic senator claire mccaskill was up three points in her republican challenger josh holly. but no longer. and in tennessee, the senate contest there, republican marsha blackburn is now up several points ahead of democrat phil gregson by 48%-43% margin. my friends, brett kavanaugh -- not just someone i've known for 28 years, he's someone that i know and deep in here, he deserves a seat in the supreme court. i can't think of many people who deserve it more than he does, as a matter of fact. but no matter what happens next, the democrats have revealed themselves and their slimeball tactics of the american people. and in the midterms? i think millions of americans will have a stark choice to

make. do they want a green light more of the democrat's scorched earth politics of ascension, or do they want to vote for a candidate who stands for results and something better, like decency and due process? and that's the angle. joining me now is dave boxy, former trump deputy campaign manager and -- chris, this is, the report was never going to make a difference to the democrats, but can't you just admit now that this was all about delay at this point? they were going to vote for kavanaugh anyway, weren't they? >> lo, i don't think you have many democrats that will vote for him. there might be two or three that are still considering it. they will read the report tonight, tomorrow, and we'll see what happens. the leader firing cloture, that meant something. we'll see what happens next a

day or two ago whether they have the votes to confirm kavanaugh, and filing cloture to me is bad news for people opposing kavanaugh right now. they have the votes if he's making that statement. we'll see what happens. as for your angle and what this means for the midterms, i find it hard to believe that this is going to bring up more republicans than would ordinarily come out anyway. the republican base is solid, if the democratic base that fluctuates pretty dramatically. i find it hard to believe that working-class and blue-collar americans are going to rally behind a prep school guy that reminds him more of ted mcginley's character from "revenge of the nerds" -- >> laura: did you hear the voters in west virginia last week -- i guess friday, it's all a blur, in nevada, mississippi. this is not exactly, like, you know, new england here. >> right. >> laura: we had southern

republicans and conservatives -- kavanaugh is a proxy for the 2016 election and the future of the country. it's a proxy issue for the democrats. it's not about "the yale kid who drank too much" -- who doesn't drink too much in college? the democrats look like a bunch of tea totaling prudes. dave boxer, i'm going to you. republicans are not sold on this president and the way he discussed christine ford last night in mississippi. the three republicans that are pivotal all criticized him. let's watch. >> the president's comments were just plain wrong. i don't approve of the comments from last night. i thought that they were wrong. an extraordinarily unfortunate. >> he shouldn't have done it. just going to say it. it's kind of appalling. >> laura: i feel like -- they

are joined at the hip. you can't find one without another. >> laura, can you hear me? i couldn't hear chris hahn at all. >> laura: it's basically a series of sound bites, republicans, murkowski criticizing the senate. >> you were going to come with me with a question? >> laura: chris, i'll take you on one on one. you've got three republicans that are critical. flake, murkowski, collins. they were not wild about the president's comments last night. but that's not going to move their vote one way or another. this report is going to be critical. and from everything that i'm hearing, the report does not bolster christine ford's credibility at all. at all! >> look, i think it's all about the report. they've been critical of the president in the past and they've still voted with them on many occasions. i think the report is critical to them. again, i see the cloture vote

and that concerns me. if i was leader o'connell, i would've talked on two of them. i think they lost murkowski on other issues, but collins and flake are critical. on we'll see. i think he's making them take a hard vote ahead of the midterms. back to the original discussion of the midterms, laura, i really don't see this lasting, especially if he is confirmed over the weekend. i don't think that 30 days from now this is still an issue. i also do not think that scotus voters, people who come out vote for supreme court justices -- >> laura: the vote was a really important part of christian conservatives, catholic conservatives, the faithful -- the court is critical. i disagree with you. i know it's the law -- >> but -- >> laura: we are shortchanged on boxee because he couldn't

hear. but we are talking about collins, flake, murkowski. i do not think this is going to make christine ford's testimony any more credible. do you think that they are going to buck the president on this for any reason at this point? >> no, i don't think they are going to do that at all. this is why the president got elected. it's very important to the revoking voters across this country to send donald trump toe white house that he gets the supreme court nominee through. we will get kavanaugh through and we have seen the bump across the country. one of the more important things the republicans need to wake up to is that chaos. the chaos that this democrat party is involved in. let's look at the last two weeks. the chaos of washington and of america. that's what you get with a democrat majority in the house. you get this every single day, nothing else. only trump derangement syndrome, trump hatred, the ability for

them -- you subpoena depositions, the hearing process, to rake people over the coals and ruin their lives just like they tried to do the brett kavanaugh. >> laura: we have to go to john turley now. the senate now has their hands on the fbi supplement or report kavanaugh, but the democrats are not waiting for the findings. they've already made up their minds. listen to cory booker today. >> ultimately, not whether he's innocent or guilty. this is not a trial. ultimately have enough questions been raised that we should not move on to another candidate? and that long list put together by the heritage foundation, the federalist society, move on to another candidate. >> laura: we'll get right on that. joining me now is law expert jonathan turley. how damaging is it that the democrats -- they seemingly abandon the idea of fundamental fairness, due process. i think that's a way for the

republican democrat prism right now and look at it, what are the facts? >> what's troubling is the democrats keep this mantra that it's not a trial and this is how you feel about the judge. they are acting as a fact finder. that's different from sitting on a committee voting on legislation. there is no element of fairness and decency coming in. what's your standard? even if you apply a clear preponderance standard it means you are about 75% certain of your decision. can you say that on this evidence? can you even say by preponderance it tips either way? i think the most he can possibly say that this is what we call an apple void, and equal, if you believe both sides equally. under those standards, is very hard to vote against kavanaugh unless you go against senator cavanaugh booker -- would you want a justice who

took that position? senators kept asking him, what type of justice you would be putts would you follow the standards that the senators are suggesting? >> laura: that's a great point. oh, my gosh. i wish that point was raised last week at the hearing because they wouldn't. many of the same democrats are in favor of prison reform, which this demonstration is pursuing, sentencing reform, which i think they are going to get to, the idea of redemption and clemency in general which the old democrat party used to in embrace. do you think the fbi investigation, it's not going to become public. it's a weird public care. only one copy will be brought -- it's like the transfer at a car show? or member it was kept in a vault at the basement. so it's one copy. i guess they have an hour each -- an hour, half hour each. only nine staffers are going to be able to look at it.

it's not to be made public. mitch mcconnell really wants to ensure it's not to be made public. is that going to hurt republicans or is there some one of them keeping this in the senate? >> i'm not sure i put this time limit, but it's safe to keep it out of public view. this is not a sherlock holmes novel. a gosh i will be found, the lead pipe in the dining room with the body. these are raw statements. typically the 302, these are real. fbi agents going into the field saying, this is what these guys said. they put in a lot of stuff that they may even doubt because they want to bring in all the data into the system. it's not fair to a person to have that kind of raw information released. it's not fair to judge kavanaugh and it's not fair to all the other nominees. these things have not been made public in the past. >> laura: in the past like

anita hill saying she made an allegation that they looked into and could not find any corroboration for, but then that was leaked. that was never supposed to see the light of day, but they try to push it onto the public and that ended up being what -- obviously the confirmation went through. jonathan turley, always great to see you. thanks for being here. what a great point here that's the kind of justice we want him to be on the court. christine blasey ford's accusation against kavanaugh seems to be collapsing on almost every front. we will detail those points next. plus a top defamation lawyer joins me on what recourse kavanaugh might have if those accusations bear no fruit. a former partner at kirkland and ellis with cavanaugh where he was also a lawyer. stay there.

>> laura: and christine ford's story is falling apart. period. first, ford's boyfriend and a high school friend expose blatant lies surrounding her polygraph test. remember her bizarre story wanting to go doors in front of our house? prompted her to reveal -- a real clear politics investigation found some discrepancies in her timeline. records indicate the double door renovation took place in 2008, four years earlier. joining us with more is david hansen, senior fellow at the hoover institution. all right, the two go doors and the author of the book "the case for trump." there is a big difference between credibility based on fact and personal empathy.

explain how these latest details illuminate that point. >> coming into where they are today, wasn't able to locate a supposed assault, the time or date, and the early '80s, made '80s, she was a young teenager, a little bit older. there was a lot of doubt. we had the collapse of the six accuser, the fifth or third, second, ramirez -- that didn't help. we have the boyfriend coming forward. her own testimony, that she admitted that she flies regular, corroborated by the boyfriend. the two door thing, people in palo alto have to go doors for a purpose, not because they are claustrophobic, but because they want extra renter john mccain -- she would write this anonymous writ, that would float

and cast out, that would panic the republicans and kavanaugh would withdraw. it's sad because she gave one to many narratives. she gave a narrative to the therapist, she gave a narrative to dianne feinstein, she gave a narrative to "the washington post," she gave narrative as her testimony. she brought it up against a pretty season that prosecutor. those narratives cannot be reconciled. they are mutually exclusive. whether a lie detector, circumstances about flying, particular names -- here we are. it collapses. >> laura: victor, to illustrate how the left -- they substitute emotion for reason. they want everyone else to buy into it as well. jennifer granholm, one of your favorites, said this a few days ago. >> that's what's so frustrating about this. we get a woman who goes up

there, takes an oath, who comes across to most people as incredibly credible. >> i'm not sure if that's the right thing to say. but is amazingly credible. >> laura: amazingly credible credible, -- a shocker. >> that comes right out of the french revolution, not the history of american jurisprudence. you can be sincere or empathetic, but it has nothing to do with reason, logic, great ability. she was incredible. the fact she was empathetic and sincere gets you only so far. in a weird way, cory booker was right that it doesn't matter anymore because we are into the realm not of legality anymore. it's not about kavanaugh, it's not about trump, it's not about raw fear politics in the arena and democrats are saying, well, we've lost the senate, we've lost the house, we've lost the presidency, we are going to lose her supreme court, we have no other trajectory to get this progressive agenda. we are going to get the farm, so

to speak, that we are going use revolutionary tactics. this election is a referendum whether you can believe you can swarm a senator on their way to work or you can get in the face of a senator in an elevator or bother somebody in the restaurant. >> laura: that's the behavior here in washington! it's excessive. you can point your middle finger around with children and you can say blank off. more power to you. power to the people. >> are you for due process? argue for revolutionary fervor? argue for reason? argue for emotion? argue for street and take so antifa brawl in the senate? there is one other element. they are really angry because it's a self-inflicted wound. barack obama set that president, i won, the election matters. joe biden 30 years ago, never in

his right mind, thought the senate judiciary committee would be controlled by republicans and there would be a lame duck democrat when he made the biden rule. harry reid never thought they would take back the senate. >> laura: it's all coming back, victor. it's all coming back to bite them. the truth ultimately wins out in the end. it comes back to bite them. thanks so much, victor. great to see you as always. what happens next? if all these stories, or any of these stories, proven false, what recourse could judge kavanaugh have? or can you just smear and form your way back into power. tom claire is one of the country's preeminent attorneys in defamation cases. an old friend. thank you so much for being here. can kavanaugh pursue a defamation case if one or any of these claims are false? >> there are so many reckless speeches starting with the accusers, starting with the media, repeating these

uncorroborated and baseless allegations without knowing whether it's true or false. it is absolutely reckless. celebrity lawyers jumping in front of cameras to repeat this stuff, he absolutely has recourse. it's the only thing in our system is to pursue a defamation claim. >> laura: when of a avenatti comes out and says somebody kavanaugh drop quaaludes in a punch bowl. that's a crime. is that enough for a defamation case? >> at absently can be. you are falsely accusing someone of a criminal act, drugging someone for the purposes of sexual assault. if that statement was made recklessly and i certainly believe it was, there is elements of that certain of conduct that gives rise to a defamation claim. judge kavanaugh should keep those options on the table. >> laura: we have horrible laws in this country for public

figures who are malign. i'm a public figure you can say anything you want. you just shrug your shoulders. it's pretty amazing. president trump spoke about this last night. i want to play it for you. let's watch. >> getting smart and getting tough and not letting that stuff, right back there, all those cameras, tell us how to live our lives. fake news! we have the worst libel laws anywhere in the world. they can say anything they want and we can't sue them because if you are famous, you can't sue. figure that out. could be your son. could be your husband! >> laura: horrible. i enjoy watching this in the studio. i could watch this for an hour. a false statement. you say it knowingly? you have to show recklessness as a public figure with malice. >> malice is a constitutional

standard. what that means for a public speaker knew it was false or acted recklessly in making that statement. that's what we've got here. we've got all sorts of red flags, all sorts of inconsistencies in the testimony. all sorts of reasons why people should be pumping the brakes. instead everybody is diving in front of cameras and destroying this man's reputation. the only recourse is to go to the courts and get the vindication. >> laura: if he's a confirmed supreme court justice, he's not going to be filing a defamation case? >> i wouldn't think so. >> laura: mark judge could, perhaps. >> marks judge good. just as kavanaugh, and i hope he is confirmed because he deserves to be. even then, his legacy will be tarnished by this. he'll never know and his great grandchildren -- they'll read about him thanks to the internet and thanks to this spurious allegations. >> laura: you think you should pursue it even if he makes it to the court? >> if you should keep it on the

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>> laura: it's time for are seen and unseen segment with a special focus on the kavanaugh fight. comparing trump's trumps remarks last night -- secrets from inside the blasey ford's yearbook. raymond arroyo, this is wild. we have located a page of the christine ford yearbook. page she wrote herself. an entry on the page, and note she wrote herself. what does it tell us? will put it on the screen. >> she refers to herself as

"blas" which tells us about the culture of the school. i will read some of the lines. "passed out in john"... "trapped till you toss"... "whiz on the shower"... "pass out on the entourage for dell my floor" i want a hearing of what these hearings mean. >> laura: friends say that basically is a note on weekends on various things that happened. >> what they did on the weekend. >> laura: is high school! >> i love mr. scott's we we and orange on the rug. there's pictures of her where there is binge drinking going on. we talk about her passing on binge drinking. look, this is what this tells us. at holton arms, these goals were not exactly at a convent school praying confines with the nuns

in the evening. this is a fast times at holton high. they were chasing boys and drinking booze. this is the culture of the place. >> laura: i don't like looking at anyone 'yearbook. >> >> laura: at least take a gander. how people miss this entry is beyond me. it's a snapshot of some wild times. >> what's good for the goose is good for the accuser. in that vein, i have copies of that yearbook, your yearbook. i'm going to share this later in the week and we are going to get your boyfriend to call in during the segment. >> laura: [clearing throat] don't talk. >> making comments about the relevant down the credibility of dr. ford's claims. we attach those comments to dr. dr. ford's for some context. >> how did he get home? >> has anyone come forward to say to you, remember, i was the one who drove you home? >> no. >> where was the place?

i don't remember. >> you describe is placed near the country club, wherever that was, right? >> i would describe it as somewhere between my house and the country club. >> how many years was this? i don't know don't know. >> how are you able to narrow down the time frame. >> i can't give the exact date. >> i had one beer. the only thing i remember. >> i drink one beer. brett and mark were visibly drunk. >> laura: raymond, what do you think about this? >> i've got to tell you that spirit like you, most americans, first of all, they are looking at this. this is like president dangerfield. trump's timing -- the one he was like, boom, boom, boom. >> people like this. on the other hand, this is risky for brett kavanaugh's confirmation. >> laura: markowski, collins,

flake are all against this. >> all of a sudden, he's going to the night cycle. >> laura: i like that. >> i know you like it, but it might push some of the senators to the wrong direction. as a political speech, this is riling up the base. >> laura: all right. reacting to all of this, hollywood stars are planning a rally! [laughs] ridiculous, protesting the nomination. >> are upset. men are very worried of these false claims. this is alyssa milano. listen to what she said. the guest are at the kavanaugh hearings. watch. >> where as trump might say white men have a very difficult right now, i am saying that women, young people, have had it difficult for generations and generations and generations. we will not be silenced any longer. if that means that man have a hard time right now? then, i'm sorry. this is the way the pendulum has to shift. >> laura: okay, raymond.

>> i guess we are out of luck. you can make empty charges? >> laura: >> laura: he's the president. >> a big protest rally. john legend, whoopi goldberg, linda gone home, they are staging a walkout across the country. they walked out of their place of work. nothing says i want a good supreme court like leaving your job in the middle of the day. but that's what they are doing. we will cover that and bring you full coverage. >> laura: john legends >> laura: john legend, if you singing i might attend. i'm not interested in his political comments. >> i'm going to report. you decide. >> laura: coming up, pretend crying, it may girl voice, and inappropriate smiling? those are some of the things a body language expert stood out when christine blasey ford was testifying. she joins us next.

>> laura: our next guest is a nonpartisan and unbiased body language and to medications expert. she spent decades as an expert witness for criminal and civil cases and she's made an objective analysis for ""the ingraham angle" ." dr. lee and glass joins us from l.a. with her findings. i find this entire topic fascinating. i want to take you to a few moments to christine ford's testimony. >> all right. >> laura: first off, her comments about her therapist's notes. let's watch. >> did you show it full or partial set of this marriage counsel, counselor records to "the washington post"? >> i don't remember. i'm a member summarizing her

what she said. i'm not sure if i gave her the record. >> it's possible it reported did not see the notes? >> i can't remember if she saw them directly or i told them what she said. >> laura: when lillian, what does that tell you? >> it's fascinating. first of all, she uses that little baby girl voice uses when she's feeling vulnerable, or caught, so to speak, and you are seeing her have her head to the side, which is a very vulnerable body language position. she doesn't seem to remember what happened actually two months ago, but she certainly can remember what happened with kavanaugh. so it's fascinating to see what happens. she's looking down. in terms of the situation, it's not reading true. she's not being fort right here for some reason she's not being forthright here for some reason. >> laura: another moment where she is talking about her best

friend, lee linda keiser, who se had reported was in the house of the time of the alleged report. she was questioned about miss kaiser. let's watch. >> do you have any particular reports to ascribe to leland? >> leland has significant health challenges and i'm glad she's focusing on herself and getting the health treatment that she needs. she let me know that she needed her lawyer to take care of this for her. >> laura: wow. >> that such a thrown back under. >> laura: exactly! how about the way she looks and appears in her vocal inflection at that moment? >> her vocal inflection -- he asked, her vocal inflection is completely different. she says she's really happy and she doesn't show happiness for her friend. she does throw her under the bus, telling her about her friend's health problems. tells us the fact that the

lawyer wants to get involved. may be against her for exposing this. i mean, this is quite personal information. you see her head down. she's looking down. not confident in terms of what she's saying. it's very disconcerting. >> laura: another moment is when she's discussing the polygraph. that's a pretty big deal through this happened a couple of months earlier -- not a couple of months earlier. i want your take on the body language here. >> so i remember being hooked up to a machine, being placed onto my body. being asked a lot of questions. and crying a lot. that's my primary memory of that test. i wasn't listening to every detail, whether it was audio or video recorded.

>> laura: that's not even getting into the grandmother's funeral time-stamp on that. what are your thoughts on that? >> two things, lara. when you start a sentence with "okay, so," you are in trouble. when you are down and you are not communicating straight forward to a very easy answer, there is a problem here. >> laura: again, if you are answering truthfully, would your eyes lock on the questionnaire? >> absolutely. >> laura: a lot of people look away. >> of course, because they are not countable. but she's not looking down. she's not looking away. she's specifically looking down. that speaks volumes. she's talking about the polygraph, she doesn't remember. this happened, as you said, recently in her lifetime. not 35 years ago. >> laura: all right. i'm checking my body language. >> you better.

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♪ >> i don't want to know, not so much about me, i want to turn abuse of the process because if this is going to be the new norm, god help us all. who would want to come before this committee if we are going to do this and the people who did it, i hope they don't get away with it. >> laura: he didn't get away with it. earlier this evening capitol police arrested former democratic congressional staffer jackson costco who allegedly docs a handful of republican

senators and then post their info online. jason chaffetz was himself a target of the left intimidation tactics while he was in congress and he joins me now. thanks so much for being with us tonight. this can't be surprising to you, given everything you've been through, but of course it's a democrat staffer, now former democrat staffer. >> this is how the deep state acts. if the resistance movement, this is scorched-earth. and what's interesting about this case, this person isn't just charged with putting his home address and telephone number, three senators he did that information out there. but with this tampering i want to know more about what in the world that is. also identity theft, second-degree burglary. false identity and the police went out of their way to say there are probably going to be more charges. >> shannon: we were talking

earlier about making people pay who allege these defamatory falsehoods, whether it's against a judicial candidate knowing that the thing is so outrageous and false or recklessly referencing it that people have to either be penalized severely or it's going to keep happening. and same thing with this. if you can't throw the book at people who do this. republicans are always on the defense. you've got to go on the offense against these people. >> you have to see some people actually behind bars. let's see if they actually not only charging but they actually prosecute him and put him in jail and make sure that every single federal employee sees that. most of them are good hardworking decent patriotic people but there's an element in there that knows they won't get arrested, they won't get prosecuted, they won't even get fired. >> shannon: was it during obama won one of those state department employees -- i can't remember, it was like gois or passport applications, just

trolling for personal information. i bet it's a lot more common than we know and these are just the ones we find out about. final thoughts? >> how about the whole irs investigation we did with lois and the federal government had to go back and pay people because their rights were trampled on. nobody got fired, nobody got docked their pay. nobody went to jail, nobody was charged and the federal government, the federal employees, they all know this, they know they can get away with it. >> laura: that has to end. if the tyranny of mediocrity is one thing, the tyranny of criminality in the bureaucracy is a whole other ball of wax. thank you so much tonight and cnn on the receiving end of some hard truths from a journalistic giant.

>> laura: veteran journalist ted koppel turning his fire on cnn much to the media reporter brian seltzer's surprise.

>> if they are up, that means what? >> all the ratings are up, it means that you can't do without donald trump, you would be lost without donald trump. >> that's what he says. >> you know that's not true. >> cnn's ratings would be in the toilet without donald trump. >> laura: he's like who invited him on this panel? i will just leave it there. that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" fantastic team are here, all the new developments from capitol hill and beyond. >> shannon: it's been 30 seconds so there are actually some new ones, you know how this works. thank you so much. we begin with a fox news alert. the countdown is on and a confirmation vote is set to confirm judge brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. still awaiting the release of the fbi report into the allegations against the judge although the senate majority leader says short time ago the senate will receive it tonight. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream in washington. judge brett