equal application of our law, due process, presumption of innocence. it's a big day. but considering so many do not support that, it scares me. laura ingraham is next with mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader. see you monday. >> laura: hello, from washington, i'm laura ingraham, this is the "ingraham angle." tonight, senator susan collins driving what could be the final nail in the coffin for the democrat's resistance against brett kavanaugh. senate majority leader much mcconnell will join me exclusively in moments revealing what he said to collins in today's lunch meetings just moments before she said yes to kavanaugh. and the me too movement is hitting the board room. but not in the way you might think. raymond arroyo is here for friday follies and you want to stick around for diamond and silk. it's not friday without diamond and silk. but first, the democrats' phony

victim play. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." . the democrats and many on this the left worked around the clock to kill brett kavanaugh's nomination to the supreme court. but i think they made a fatal miscalculation. they thought it was okay along the way to jettison the principle of due process, and to use victims to pursue a radical political agenda. on the first year anniversary of the me too movement, i think it's important to remember that this all started with liberal democrat harvey weinstein. friend of bill and hillary, and of course barack obama, and remember he, the hollywood mogul, mega-donor. i mean this guy is where it all happened. and, remember, the abuse there started the cultural moment of "me too." this notion of objectifying women and using them for the pleasure of the powerful has been long nurtured by the left. at the same time it was also pro-women as we abuse women on the casting couch, et?cetera.

and the entertainment industry had the target on its back. but now we see the same mentality at play in the kavanaugh struggle. claiming to be defenders of women, the democrats cynically and i think cruelly use christine ford in a desperate attempt to derail a supreme court nominee. remember, she didn't initially want to come forward to tell her story. she was dragged into the open by political leaks to the "washington post" and other media outlets. and remember, reporters surrounded her home and then she was forced to tell her story. ' and today, we learned of more dirty tricks from the activist lawyers behind the scenes. remember leiland kizer? she was the person who ford claimed was at the party where kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her. one of her close friends. well, kizer previously told the senate committee that she didn't know of such party, didn't know kavanaugh to begin with.

today, though, she told the the "wall street journal" and the fbi that a former agent, another friend of christine ford, monica mclean, pressured her to change her account to corroborate ford's account. unbelievable. well, in a speech announcing her decision to vote for kavanaugh's confirmation today, susan collins perfectly summed up the callousness of the democrats. >> some people who wanted to engineer the defeat of this nomination cared little, if at all, for her well being. professor ford testified that a very limited number of people had access to her letter. yet that letter found its way into the public domain. >> laura: today dianne feinstein left no doubt as to what the

nasty, senseless battle was all about all along, the left's desire to use the supreme court to impose liberal social values on society. >> another issue that gives me great pause, is judge kavanaugh's extreme view on guns. the challenging realities women face. row v. wade, what kind of medical care can you receive. >> laura: this has been a problem for decades. the american left believes the court should be a super legislature, a body that makes law rather than interprets law. since trump announced his candidacy to the presidency, the left has been in perpetual rage mode and of course this continued into the night. and it's going on go on for some time. this is how the they attempted to influence susan collins before she announced her vote. check it out. [all yelling at the same time] >> don't put a liar on the court! don't put a liar on the court!

don't put a liar on the court! don't put a liar on the court! don't put a liar on the court! >> laura: ah, nice. this is how they work their charms on democrat joe mansion an he announce head was supporting kavanaugh. >> shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame! >> laura: at least it's a one-word chant, easy to follow. you know what's really shameful? democrats who use victimhood as their defining principle. they'd rather have people dependent on government, helpless without it, especially certain groups, minorities, immigrants, and even women. we're supposed to believe that we can't survive and thrive without an activist court making up new rights, finding them in the constitution. and they demand that we believe anyone who claims victim status. we have to take them at their word regardless of where the facts lie.

but for all of their screaming and tiresome chanting, the left basically come up empty this time. most americans don't see themselves as victims. we're not powerless or weak. we're strong and independent. this was the democrats' miscalculation. they thought emotional extortion and protester histrionics to block a well qualified supreme court nominee. once again, they let their rabid political ideology blind them to the fact that the americans are fair minded, have a basic goodness about them, and they're optimistic about the future. they don't need an activist supreme court to see the light. to know where we are as a people, to see our future. that's the angle. >> laura: joining me now is code pink's co-founder madea benjamin and former kavanaugh colleague, she also served as associate

counsel to president george w. bush and clerked for justice thomas on the supreme court. me dia, do you deny that the left used christine ford as a political cudgel in this battle? >> no, not at all, i think it was important to be heard. so many of these women who came in around the country, i was in lisa murkowski's office, in senator collins' office, they wanted to tell their stories. they wanted -- it's a flooding of emotion. and i think people need to hear these stories. i think it's unfortunate that it doesn't look like we'll be able to?-- >> laura: so emotion trumps fact? >> emotions are fact part of fact. >> laura: not necessarily. >> yeah, i think in this case, the opening of the possibility for women to tell their stories has been -- >> laura: what's preventing, i keep hearing this, women can't tell their stories. women are strong, more than half the population, more than half of law school classes today, more than half of the

university enrollment are women. this idea that these women are these damsels in distress and don't have a voice, we can speak any time we want. >> not everyone has the good fortune of not being molested at a young age. >> laura: don't pull that card on me. what i'm saying, the idea that women are damsels in distress and they need an activist supreme court to help them. >> you want to end the trauma of?-- >> laura: why did christine ford's get outed? >> i don't know. >> laura: she didn't want it to be outed, she was used. >> she wouldn't have come to -- >> laura: she was used. did she look like she wanted to be there? >> it's terrifying. >> laura: they used her, they drug her there. >> laura, can we agree on one thing. >> laura: they used her. >> women are coming out and telling their stories, that i a positive thing? >> laura: they used her. >> it is a wonderful thing. >> laura: they used her, a sad thing to kill this nomination. they abused her. >> she did not want to be there. and she made that clear in the

first few minutes of her testimony. she never wanted a public hearing. for some reason, i don't know why, she never even knew that senator grassley had offered that the judiciary committee staff could come to her in california or offered a private hearing. did her lawyers not tell her that that was an option? >> laura: what did they want? >> they wanted a public spectacle. that's exactly what they got. >> laura: they wanted a circus, they wanted to flood the capital with the victims' stories. they wanted to besiege senators in elevators and yell "shame" and spit in their faces and get a centimeter, like they're horrible people because they don't think you should jettison due process. you have an agenda to kill off supreme court nominee. >> senator collins said it best, they did not care about dr.?ford's feelings or well being in the slightest bit. >> of course they did. and they gave her an opportunity that she wanted, and women in general an opportunity and this

is going to change history. it might not change who's on the supreme court but it will change the way parents bring up their sons, it's going to change the way young people relate to each other. it's going to change the way men act towards women. this is a positive thing. >> laura: this a women's march tweet that went out today, medea, we have it up on the screen. senator susan collins rape apologist. do you agree with that tweet? >> i wouldn't say she's a rape apologist. i would say she didn't listen to the women who, in such a heart-felt fashion came to tell her please, listen to survivors, believe women, believe dr. ford. >> laura: you think all women, regardless of facts, years past, no corroboration, people that she claimed were in the room signed sworn statements saying i wasn't there, i don't even know kavanaugh, including her best friend.

>> but she's 100% certain. >> laura: all four people in the room are lying. >> the way that brett kavanaugh acted at that hearing. >> laura: oh, please. >> i think that's important. >> laura: really? you ever been in a courtroom with a judge? i've been in a lot of courtroom. you don't know what judges are like. >> arrogant, petulant, sarcastic, mean, aggressive. even judge john paul stevens, retired justice, a life-long republican after watching that said -- >> laura: a lifelong liberal activist. judge on the bench. >> if some one flat-out lied about you on a national stage would you be upset? >> i was going to be one of the nine people out of how many, 350 million people in the country that sits on the supreme court? i would sit there and have a much more deferential attitude to the senators. >> laura: first he was a rapist, gang rapist, then drank too much then that didn't work. well, then, it's he was aggressive, like cory booker. oh, please. >> sarcastic.

>> laura: 300 court opinions, overwhelming reaction by people on the left and right who appeared before him, in 12 years on the federal bench, 12 years, not a day on the senate judiciary committee but 12 years, have the utmost respect for his judicial temperament, reasoning and authority. >> they went up to the next level, to get on the supreme court and he failed the test. >> laura: it's two words, life tenure, he's going to get confirmed tomorrow. this is susan hennessey, and i happened to catch this, leaving my house today, i like to turn on other networks to get comedy relief. this is someone i never heard of. this is susan hennessey, never heard of, so unhinged on a friday night, i thought i'd play it for you. >> the extent on which senator grassley relies on women to do his dirty work, when he needs votes over the line, just speaks to how unbelievably tone deaf these individuals are. i think that it touches into the

same sort of incandescent rage that we are seeing in response to the kavanaugh nomination. >> laura: incan decent rage. grassley relying on women to do his dirty work? >> susan collins is controlled by chuck grassley. susan collins stood up and gave an incredible speech in the tradition of senator margaret chase smith. she spoke to reason. she spoke to fact. she gave a very principled explanation. >> laura: almost an hour. >> thank goodness, laura, somebody broke through the moe m -- morass and brought in common sense and decency to reset this. >> i thought murkowski's speech was heartfelt, deep, and good. >> laura: are you kidding, murkowski lost me when she said, our role of advice and consent. it's advise and consent. i'm sorry, for you a senator, you don't know it's advise and consent, sorry, you lost me. >> it was from her heart.

>> laura: i'm not saying it's not important. we all love good emotion. i love a good cry. i love a good laugh. but at some point facts have to win out. do they not? >> and there was a doubt about whether he did this and so he should not be on the supreme court, herd. >> laura: i hope you are never subjected to this kind of claim?-- >> he failed it. >> laura: he didn't fail it, he will be confirmed. >> he shouldn't be. >> laura: thank you, ladies, for being here. madea and i go back from the early 2000s on radio, great to see you. it's no secret at this point that the grass roots protesters at the capital are often funded even directly or indirectly by some georges soros affiliated groups. for daring to raise this possibility, senator chuck grassley was called an anti-semite. "new york times" op?ed writer

writes, let's be clear here, charles grassley is a united states senator, responsible for his words and his words are here amount to anti-semitic smear. michelle malkin has reaction to that craziness and how it's this crazy, sometimes mob mentality seems to be taking over politics and certainly capitol hill. michelle, did george soros have any involvement in the funding of, what is it, the center for popular democracy, where they, the ladies cornered poor old jeff flake in the elevator and he looked very scared. >> yes. >> laura: were they involved? >> yes, the center for popular democracy is aligned with george soros' network. he is the sun in the center of a galaxy of these left-wing resistance groups that have morphed over time whether it was move on or your previous guest madea benjamin's code pink, now there's a new generation of

these groups and cpd is one of them. along with code pink 2.0, ultraviolet. and it is the protest orchestration, i think that, really needs to be investigated. not only among the funders and flanth persist -- philanthropists that back and protect these mobsters but also the people they're coordinating with in the senate judiciary committee. it's not answered, who gave the senate gallery passes to people like linda sarcur and piper paraboo and these others from day one, second one, minute one of the hearings were enacting the plan that they have announced ever since donald trump won office. and i think that this senate democrat wrecking machine isn't going to give up after judge kavanaugh is nominated and approved tomorrow. they're going to go on all the way through the mid terms and 2020. and i think it behooves the right and the conservative

movement, laura, to make sure that we don't leave a vacuum in these spaces. >> laura: michelle, you took the words out of my mouth. you really have to hand it to the left's power to organize. i really give it to them. because they bus people here. they put them up at local churches. they all, like, print out the same glossy posters. kavanaugh -- that was clever, i have to admit. but they get their word out. and they really did, i think, ultimately delay this vote for a week. they were ultimately not successful. but they dragged this thing out for another week. and, look, until the last vote is cast i'm just going to keep my fingers crossed. anything can always happen. >> same. >> laura: everyone needs a taste tester tonight, like everybody should have their food tasted. >> yeah. >> laura: they did have an effect. they are cowing some of these more moderate senators, although they ultimately will vote for kavanaugh. >> you know, we do need boots on the ground. there are millions of us women,

for example, laura, who feel the same way we do, and you voiced it well in that previous segment who rely on facts and logic and believe as i do that we need to believe evidence, not gender, as the default. and it is hard for these elected officials when they've got screaming, baying mobs of these feminist hounds that nobody on the other side to counter them. and i always hear, of course, from a lot of small business owners and parents and family members on the right, well, we have full time jobs so we can't be there. and obviously, on election day, they will have a voice and a vote. but maybe it's time we pay full-time people to answer that, and make sure that we are represented on the ground in the beltway. because it's not going to stop. >> laura: a lot of conservative businessmen making a ton of money in this economy, this trump economy, they have on pony up money. the democrats are doing it, registering hundreds of thousands of people to vote,

including young people, puerto rican voters moving to florida. it's a big deal. it can't be all on you, michelle, to pull us over the finish line. >> and i want to say one more part of the plan which is i heard that you're going to move to alaska and run for senate against murkowski. i'm going to move to hawaii and run against that crazy mazie hirono. although i would rather be in alaska than hawaii. want to trade? >> laura: i'll do the fly fishing, you can do the surfing. thanks, michelle, historic night in washington, d.c. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is here next, exclusively with us, his reaction to today's events. and a look ahead to tomorrow's historic kavanaugh vote. stay right there. here.

>> that those who have known him best have attested, he has been an exemplary public servant, judge, teacher, coach, husband, and father. mr. president, i will vote to confirm judge kavanaugh. >> laura: that was senator susan collins delivering a crushing blow to democrats hoping for a last-minute defection. during her nearly one hour long speech earlier today she echoed many of the sentiments offered on the senate floor day after day by our next guest. we're happy to be to be joined exclusively by senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. senator mcconnell, when did you know you had the votes? >> when the roll was called. >> laura: really? >> yeah, they were all very guarded about making an announcement.

so this is one of those rare situations when you go into a vote not really knowing for sure. you had them. >> laura: you usually call cloture, unless you know you have the votes. >> we had to move on this, this was not going to get better. if we didn't vote. i decided a week ago we were going to vote on friday. because we watched what was happening. they were trying to destroy this good man with all of these rumors and all of the rest of the stuff. we need to have the vote in order to bring to it a conclusion. >> laura: why didn't senator murkowski go along? you have flake and collins with the long speech today, and she impressed a lot of people with her passion and dedication and advise and consent. what happened to murkowski? >> i'd rather celebrate the victory. and i think there's plenty of credit to go around. president trump for making great choices. chairman grassley for doing a heck of a good job dealing with the outbursts, and my members --

i mean, we've been under assault, laura. our homes have been -- they've come to our homes. >> laura: yours was today. this morning. >> not just me, it's everybody. we've sort of been under assault. everybody decided to stand up to the mob. you know, to not be intimidated by these people. i couldn't be prouder of my members for refusing to roll over under all of this intense pressure, all of these lies. this is a great day for america. >> laura: the senate is under siege, protesters don't seem to be letting up even late in the afternoon into the evening tonight. is this the new normal? i want to play something, this is senator mansion, this is after the collins speech today and after he said he would vote for brett kavanaugh. let's watch. [chanting] >> look at us! look at us! look at us! look at us! shame, shame, shame, shame, shame!

>> laura: a lot of my radio callers today, said is this the way it's going to be? is there going to be any changes to building access? you don't want to become cocooned but in changes to how you let people into the building? >> i think security will take care of that. i think the main point is that the mob was not able to intimidate the senate. we stood up to the mob, we did the right thing for a good man, fill a lifetime position on the supreme court. there's a lot to celebrate today. i couldn't of prouder of all of my members. senator collins was outstanding. you had part of her speech in the entry. >> laura: the democrats raised just during her speech almost $2 million on a gofundme page for an undetermined candidate and susan collins is apparently seriously -- susan rice, excuse me, entertaining a challenge

against senator collins in 2020. >> senator collins will be well funded, i can assure you. there's a lot of enthusiasm on our side, too. you may not have noticed, rising enthusiasm among republican voters. i think our people are going to be just as fired-up as theirs. everybody is going to remember what they did to brett kavanaugh. >> laura: is this the shot in the arm that the republicans needed? >> absolutely. absolutely. it is, it's wakeup call to why it's important to hold the senate. the senate is in the personnel business. i love the house but the senate is in the personnel business. if you want to get judges confirmed, cabinet members confirmed, boards and commissions confirmed, we have to control the senate. so the president's nominations can actually be confirmed and take the jobs. >> laura: do you intend to use this issue on the campaign trail for the last four weeks and what are you going to say? >> absolutely. i'm going to remind everybody of the importance of the senate, two supreme court appointments, 26 circuit court judges, record for the first two years. these are lifetime appointments with conservative men and women who believe the job of judge is to interpret the law.

as it's written. >> laura: what about repercussions for what happened during this process? i was here for judge bourque. i was young speech writer in the reagan administration. i was here for justice thomas. but i think this rivalled both of those. >> i do, too. >> laura: lindsay graham was on last night and talked about the need for repercussions against the wrong doers in this case. let's watch. >> i believe dianne feinstein didn't leak it but i don't know about her staff. i do know this. her staff recommended to dr. ford, ms. katz, who hates trump, a politically activist leftist lawyer. >> laura: why not secure the e-mails and texts? >> we're going after them. here's what i'm going to do. anybody who did this, is going to pay a price. >> laura: will they pay a price >> i think it will be investigated. but you know, it didn't work. the most important thing to note, these tactics didn't work.

>> laura: you don't want to go through this again. people need to pay. >> we're prepared to go through it again, they aren't going to intimidate us and tell us how to vote. they've actually helped us win this vote. their tactics actually helped us unify our people and win this vote. they're going to help us win a month from now on november 6, too. >> laura: do you think you'll pick up senate seats? >> i hope so. this underscores how important it is. we have a close margin. very close margin. i'd like to have a few extra republican senators. >> laura: let's talk about the media's role in all of this, amplifying charges. we had another point i want to play from susan collins when she talked about the rape rooms and these words that were being thrown around against this esteemed judge. let's watch. >> the allegations that when he was a teenager judge kavanaugh drugged multiple girls and used their weakened state to facilitate gang rape.

this outlandish allegation, was put forth without any credible supporting evidence and simply parroted public statements of others. >> laura: including the media, celebrity porn lawyer. >> i can remember when that sort of thing was not put on the air. people didn't just peddle nonsense with no corroboration. that really exacerbated the problem and a lot of the senate democrats would of course mainstream that stuff right into their discussions and try to convince everybody that it somehow happened. no corroboration at all. just rumors. all over the place. >> laura: senator murkley from oregon was quite upset today. he said this. >> chuck grassley, the chair of the committee, and mitch mcconnell, the majority leader. [booing] they said there's no

contemporaneous evidence to support the women who came forward. that is not true. >> laura: well, what are we missing here, senator? >> i don't know what he's talking about. there was no evidence to corroborate any of the allegations against judge kavanaugh. maybe he's on a different planet. i'm not sure. >> laura: right now when you look back on this last, you know, couple of weeks and you have had an incredible run of confirming circuit court judges, district judges. but just this experience, lessons learned for the republican party, the senate, maybe the president, going forward? >> i think we reaffirmed that in this country you're presumed innocent. the presumption is in favor of innocence. we also relearned that you can't -- you should not allow mobs to intimidate you. and i think a good lesson for us, unified the conference, made us excited about the november

election, was good for the american people to see that these people were stood up to and they didn't get away with it. they did not win. that's the most important thing. >> laura: how radical has the democratic party of today become? >> it's a pretty wild bunch. i mean, it's pretty clear they were willing to do anything, say anything, to try to win. no boundaries. >> laura: you still have close friends in the democratic caucus after this or emotions raw? >> i think we'll get past it in terms of relationships. but it was a tough period. a tough period. i hope they learned a lesson. that you can do this kind of thing but it doesn't necessarily get you to victory. >> laura: mitch mcconnell, congratulations. >> thank you. >> laura: thanks for being here. ahead, friday follies with raymond arroyo. and the first story is connected to you senator mcconnell. anti-kavanaugh protesters hold an impromptu kegger in front of your house this morning. that and a whole lot more on that important, very important night tonight, history of our country.

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ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. >> laura: it's friday, which means it's time for -- oh, it's friday tollies where protesters get creative outside mitch mcconnell's house and sexual politics are take over board rooms and classrooms. for the details, we're joined by raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, comedian during breaks, and author of "the will wilder series." tell me about the early morning protests outside of mcconnell's condo. >> imagine it's 7:30 in the morning and you're awakened by a protest coming up the block. you can imagine mitch mcconnell, elaine, what is that out there? and then he saw this, watch. [chanting] >> chug, chug, chug, chug! i like beer! i like beer!

i like beer! >> laura: they were walking up the block saying "i like beer," "chug, chug, chug". >> this is like walking into the pirates of the caribbean in old town. this is 7:30 in the morning and they have pabst red ribbon -- >> laura: red? it's blue. >> i don't touch the stuff stuff. and they have the red solo cups. and they're saying i like beer. i like beer. brett kavanaugh at his hearing did mention this. >> we drank beer, my friends and i, boys and girls, yes, we drank beer. i like beer. still like beer. we drank beer. we like beer. >> my question, i don't know what the protest is about. if you don't like the guy why are you mimicking his words. do you support him or not? >> laura: seems like any random morning on frat row at

dartmouth, this is what we were doing. >> didn't look like a protest, it was collection of disgruntled members. >> laura: a zoning grievance. >> this was a creative protest compared to what was going on in the bowels of the capitol, okay? this is an organizer, giving his marchers orders. but i think, are they in kindergarten? you be the judge. >> let's go watch the vote. >> let's go watch the vote. [inaudible] >> i'm going to go to heidi hide camp's office. >> i'm going to go to heidi hidecamp's office. >> laura: wait, wait, wait, they were going to the wrong office. weren't they going to heidi heitkamp? wait, zombie, she's on our side. oh. totally my bad. >> why do you have to have a

chant and echo for basic orders. >> laura: we're going to the offices. >> to the offices. the "me too" movement getting a big birthday present. in california the governor signed a bill requiring public corporations in his state to have at least one female director on their board. by 2021, every board has to have three female directors. is this constitutional? >> laura: i think pacific islanders, latino americans, and every other group should say, what about me. >> how about men? i just want men to be on the all female boards. then there might be parity. >> laura: there are no all female boards. >> let me tell you about the selfie suicide. the indian health services, 259 people in seven years, lost their lives taking these risky selfie shots. mostly men. people between 10 and 29. but that number is really low. they're saying it's almost 250, it's much higher than that.

all they did was look at publicly declared cases a lot that went undeclared. but it's people on rooftops, on monuments, in traffic. and they're diagnose taking these shots. real vanity. before i go. >> laura: uh-oh. >> just to bring it all together, laura, the whole segment. we'll take a selfie. you take that one. >> laura: this hurts my hand. >> i'll take a quick selfie. smile. do we have it? >> laura: go to the edge. >> the angle. oh -- >> the aclu used to care about the rights of of the accused. >> laura: with kavanaugh will they spend a million bucks comparing him to bill cosby? check on him, please. medic? former vp of the group is here to take his former group to task. help him. is an urgent message from the international fellowship of christians and jews. there is an emergency food crisis for elderly holocaust survivors in the former soviet union.

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>> laura: all of the kavanaugh madness has the american civil

liberties union undermined their core mission? among the more outrageous ads to come out of this kavanaugh fight is the one where the judge was compared to bill cosby and bill clinton. or next guest says the group's no longer a bunch of civil libertarians, they're, quote, serving a different master. here to explain what he meant, is former aclu vice president michael meyers along with civil rights attorney will juwando. mike, start with you, it seems like the oclu forfeited their -- aclu has kind of forfeited their founding mission in favor of what? a leftist smear in >> lunatic politics. aclu, i served on the board close to a quarter of a century. i was proud of it when it resisted fashion. when it stood up against, to the mob. when it insisted on the cornerstone of liberty which is the presumption of innocence.

nobody is guilty of anything on the basis of an accusation. you have to have more than just accusation. a person is not guilty of murder because a cop says you murdered somebody. a person is not guilty of murder because he's black or because they're women, no. you've got to have evidence. the aclu has abandoned all principles, in terms of due process, fairness, fundamental fairness. in favor of the smear. >> laura: let's play the ad, then, will, you can react. this is the ad, about 23 seconds. let's watch. >> we've seen this before. denials from powerful men. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> i've never seen anything like. this. >> i categorically and unequivocally deny the allegation against me by dr. ford. >> america is watching. as we choose a lifetime seat on our highest court, we cannot

have any doubt. >> laura: will, the aclu, is about basic principles, due process, individual liberty. and last time i checked, innocent until proven guilty. comparing brett kavanaugh to president clinton, obviously, dna evidence in that case. bill cosby, multiple accusations of corroborated sexual harassment and worse. how does it comport with the overall mission of the aclu? >> well, look, the thing here is that we didn't have an investigation. we had don mcgahn minutes after the senate was forced to say were going to do an fbi investigation say we can't have them talking to everybody. dozens of with its were put forward by dr. ford and others that just were not talked to. they didn't speak to dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. >> laura: it was supplemental

investigation and both testified for hours and hours and hours. >> you brought up the dna evidence, we could have had that if we had had an investigation. >> laura: wait a second, wait a second. will, i adore will, michael, hold, on i adore will but he said we might have had dna evidence? >> we have had more evidence, not dna. >> laura: i didn't think so. will -- i mean, michael, again, the aclu, when i was at dartmouth we got in hot water with a college newspaper working for the dartmouth review. i remember when ira glasser who was, i think, executive director of the aclu, stood up for us, student journalists. i'm sure he didn't like the stuff we were doing, we were acting sophomoric, we were sophomores in college. but they stood up for us. that gave me a sense of what the aclu is all about. it wasn't partisan. >> they used to stand for nonpartisanship. never took a position for or against candidates for office or nominees for the court. now, it's different.

they have a pretense of nonpartisanship and they say in all of their literature, we are nonpartisan, we don't oppose. we don't endorse. but, however, and then they go on and give and give and give credence to, that they oppose people they disagree with. not the aclu. i don't know what you know about the mission of the aclu. obviously, you haven't read the policies of the aclu. investigated the policies of the aclu. >> i worked at the naacp. >> i know. i used to work at the naacp. i used to work at the naacp national office. >> what happened to you, man. >> i was assistant director. under roy wilkins. >> they're rolling in their graves. >> that's when the organize was principled. that's when the organization knew that people -- that people had rights, individual rights. >> one in three women has been sexually assaulted in this country. >> laura: i want to play this one thing, from susan herman, this at liberty podcast.

very, very closely, listen. >> i think we did want to make that statement. and to disagree with those who say well, you shouldn't pay any attention to her because you don't have objective corroboration. so, i think this is our statement, that we do believe that women should be believed. >> laura: really quick, you have ten seconds, all women should be believed? yes? >> one in three women are victims of sexual assault. i have three daughters. i want their allegations to be taken seriously and investigated, it didn't happen here. you guys can celebrate you all you want. it should be investigated. >> laura: quick, mike, quick. >> it's just absurd. because somebody is a woman you have to believe them? because somebody says they're a victim of a crime you have to believe them? no, that's not how we live in america, it's not due process. that's not right. that's not the presumption of innocence. >> laura: we will have you both back, we have a lot more to cover. by the way, a woman's march

co-founder saying support for kavanaugh equals support for bigotry and racism. seems like a big jump to me. diamond and silk to respond.

. >> >> when he was mocking her there were people laughing. there were people laughing. and you know, i'm the resident check white women person in the women's march. [applause] so let me tell you who was laughing. white women were standing there laughing with their white husbands. do not allow people to be comfortable around you, supporting racists and bigots. it is not okay. >> laura: women's march co chair

with a message to white women following the president's fact check of christine ford the other night. here with their reaction are diamond and silk, ladies, great to see you. diamond, what's your reaction to ms. mallory? >> you have to understand, that first of all the president wasn't mocking anybody. what he was doing is calling out inconsistencies in dr. ford's story, we all was agreeing with him. the people in his audience and the people at home. first thing. the second thing, this is what the democrats do, the liberals do. when they can't beat with you the race card they use the sex card, they say you mocking and call you a bigot. that's why we have to march to the polls and vote for the right, vote for the red, vote republican. >> laura: bette midler, you remember, "beaches", she said this in a tweet on thursday, yesterday, women, are the "n" word of the world. she's since deleted the tweet. raped, beaten, slaved, married off, worked like dumb animals, endure the pain of childbirth and life in silence for thousands of years. they are the most disrespected

creatures on earth, silk? >> that is a shame how you tie, want to tie beautiful women and women to the "n" word. when i look at bette i look at the fact she's a democrat. this is what they do. you know, if you look at the liberals, and the democrats, they are the party of slavery. look at the slave masters, what did they call their slaves? hmm. she understands the "n" word, she knows what it means to be the "n" word, however i think that she should not tie women to the "n" word. and she shouldn't be saying the "n" word. i thought we laid that word to rest. >> laura: diamond, did you have any thoughts when you see the very angry rage-filled protesters, of filling the capitol, filling the senate, hart office building, celebrities, amy schumer in prison garb with her fist raised in the air. thoughts on that? >> my only thoughts on that, we have to look at that, and what we have to do as a republican party is galvanize the

republicans and go to the polls and we have to vote. you know when i look at the left and how they use the "me too" movement and how they took that movement and politicized it and then used it as a weapon to weaponize it against somebody to try to character assassinate them. we don't need that happening to us. today it was kavanaugh, tomorrow it could be your brother, your husband, your son, your father. you have to vote red and vote republican. >> laura: ladies, thank you so much, great to see you tonight. up next, a big announcement, and maybe breaking news. stay there. stay there.

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>> laura: fox news alert, a brand new addition to the "ingraham angle" family tonight. our producer, and her husband, jimmy, they have a big announcement, the birth of their beautiful pienlt sized maria clare o'toole. she's beautiful. 6 pounds 14 ounces. she's a little ingram angel. there she is.

they let, the o'tooles let me hold the baby. >> elissa had a baby? >> laura: oh, my god. congratulations, elissa and jimmy, claire, you will be a superstar. >> welcome to fox n >> hello, welcome to fox news at night. with two crucial swing votes brett kavanaugh's bought on the supreme court appears secure but anything can happen in washington and the final vote is set to tomorrow, will any senator changes her mind? mike lee is here to weigh in. and raising questions for conservatives, pastor jeffers ways and live. buckle up for a wild weekend as activists, protesters and leftist celebrities to send a nation's capital trying to pressure their senders by asking if survivors matter. actris