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and a big thank you. a very respectful way in the oval office. >> jon: nikki haley resigns as u.n. ambassador. >> sandra: thank you for it joining us. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: fox news alert, new reaction from capitol hill and around the nation after investor nikki haley has resigned at the u.n. president trump speaking with ambassador haley in the oval office at the white house for today's announcement paid something that took nearly everyone by surprise. you are watching "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner. here today is dagen mcdowell. national security analyst morgan ortagus, former director of key communications for the hillary clinton campaign, adrienne elrod. in the center seat, we call him out numbered. by name, tom dupree. former deputy attorney general under president george w. bush. great to have you. >> tom: delighted to be here. >> you carry that breaking news in a backpack. i see you in the building, and
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i'm like "uh-oh." >> harris: a short time you watched on fox, president trump revealing ambassador haley informed him six months ago of her intentions to resign from her position at the united nations. the president also saying the ambassador will be staying on through the job through the end of the year, and he thanked her for her service. >> she has done an incredible job. she is a fantastic person, very importantly. but she also is somebody that gets it. we are all happy for you in one way, but we would hate to lose you. hopefully we'll come back at some point. >> it has been the honor of a lifetime. i am such a lucky girl to have been able to lead this state that raised me, and to serve a country i love so very much. >> harris: chief white house correspondent john roberts' life with more. john? >> to say that we were surprised to be an understatement. nobody had any inkling, harris,
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that this was going to happen. nikki haley didn't tell the people that work for her until this morning what was going on, and a lot of people here who work at the white house were kind of blindsided by this, as well. it all seemed to be very carefully orchestrated. the president talked about this idea of karma when you do it in a written statement -- when he saves somebody's leaving, people go up ago what's behind that, what's really going on here? "the president wanted to take a moment to sit down with ambassador haley and very calmly explain what was going on and give her a big white house and off. here's what he said. >> at the end of the year, nikki will be leaving. there will be -- we will be in constant touch. you know all the players. i think that's what she did at the nine nations. she got to know the players. she got to know china, russia, india. she knows everybody. on a first-name basis, and they like her.
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except for maybe a couple, which is normal. they can all like you. but they do, they really like her. more importantly, they respect her. >> the last eight months -- rather, the last eight years for nikki haley have been rather intense. she kicked off her time at south carolina governor for six years, during which there was a big hurricane. there was a thousand-year flood that happened there. there was the shooting of the church in charleston, south carolina. all of which she had to deal with as governor. then she went right from that into being the united nations ambassador, which is certainly like jumping from the firing pen darkly to the fire. you're dealing with national instead of a single state. shows a list of officers the compliments that she said the united states has completed during her time as the ambassador. i put the question to her. in the oval office, i was fortunate enough to be the correspondent during that little time there with the present and nikki haley. i said "given all the things that you just listed, why would
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you want to leave that behind?" listen to what she said. >> i'm a believer in term limits. i think you have to be selfless enough to know when you step aside and allow someone else to do the job. so, thank you, mr. president. it has been an honor of a lifetime. i will say this, for all of you that will ask about 2020. no, i am not running for 2020. i can promise you that what i will be doing is campaigning for this one. >> nobody asked her the question, but she want to be answered. she will be supporting president trump or the president said he's got number of people in mind to succeed nikki haley as u.n. ambassador. he will probably make an announcement sometime within three to four weeks. i have checked with a number of people here at the white house. the only name that is kind of floating around at this point is that of the current ambassador to germany, ric grenell. he will be familiar to people who watch fox news because he was a contributor to fox for an awfully long time. he has a deep history of the united nations. he was the u.n. spokesperson
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there during the negra potty days back in the bush and administration , he's got deep experience with the united nations. he was one of the names under consideration during the transition to bun investor. the president pick nikki haley. maybe it's ambassador his turn. we will find out three to four weeks. >> harris: i don't know if we have no texture yet, but that there's a big rally tonight. i don't think you would be a replacement at this point but it is interesting. anything more about that? >> is not the successor to nikki haley. the president will be making an announcement about something called e15 gasoline. current blends of gasoline are typically 10% ethanol. during certain months of the year, certain places are allowed to sell e15 ethanol. the president will direct the
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epa today to study whether or not e15, as it's known, can be sold all year long. it would be a big boon to corn producers who produce a lot of corn to ethanol, in states like iowa, nebraska, south dakota, as well. i also hear that the president will go over to the white house despite leaving. it senator joni ernst, chuck grassley, johnson, senator fischer. >> harris: south dakota, iowa. >> that whole area where they've got all the current stock. >> harris: absolutely, i have lived in that area before. before i let go, born nikki haley right now. there seems to be a warmth in the room i saw something that i've never seen before. when the president said "i will take all your questions, anybody? anybody?" crickets. what was going on, there? >> he was in a mood to chat. >> harris: but they had no more questions? they have a president of the united states and ambassador haley? a woman in that position, someone that the president was
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praising. just really quickly, that back and forth -- you were in the room. tell us about it. >> i was. i asked six or seven questions and i didn't want to hog the floor. i opened it for some of my other colleagues, to reprove them ask questions. i've never seen the president say "any more questions? "and heard nothing come out of anybody's mouse. [laughs] it was asked rainier. >> harris: correct me if i'm wrong, at one point -- saturn nikki haley, he would want to have her back at any point if you want to return. >> talk about there being a warmth of the room, there was one still photograph i saw on the air. in the last hour. the face on nikki haley she's looking at the president. you can see in her eyes that there is a real affection for the president there. the two of them are friends. they haven't always seen eye to eye, but they have been able to have good conversations with each other. unless she's a really good
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actress, i think there was something in her eyes there that said she really appreciates this president and she will probably miss being at the united nations. but she has got some other things she wants to do. she hasn't named it yet, but we will find out soon. >> harris: john roberts, thank you very much. it's good to get a little extra from you. >> thanks, harris. >> harris: tom, you just heard tom talking about the mutual praise. nikki haley actually has a history of praising this particular president. people may not know that so much, but it's true. the >> tom: that is true. she is an absolute superstar, and she was going out of the top of her game. she has served in this role as u.n. ambassador during two of the most tumultuous trance formative years in u.s. foreign policy. i think she will be very fondly remembered for someone who demands respect on the world stage, a forceful and articulate you a spokesperson for u.s. interests. she was always come from entry. even when she disagreed, she was also
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always very forceful but respectful by the scenes. her fingerprints are all over where u.s. foreign policy has been. >> harris: when you look at the high level of departure, if you will, from this president within the ambassador, when you say heads of state in the oval office, and this powerful person of the u.n.'s outgoing -- >> it's a fascinating moment. it happens on a day when we thought we would all be talking about brett kavanaugh being sworn in last night. for the people talking in washington who are close to her, they'll say she has been saying for quite some time that she wanted to be done at the two year mark. remember, she didn't come in from the senate. she came in as a governor was she's the chief executive. when you go into the u.n., which is a place that i have long observed, it is sort of like going to this "star wars" intergalactic assembly. all of these linkages, all of these people. she is there at a time whenever the administration is unpopular, which they are doing a lot of things they told the american
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people they would do. and she's having to fight on a daily basis with the russians, with the chinese. i can see how it can be quite daunting after a couple years. as you said, tom, she goes out on the highest note possible. >> harris: you know, adrienne, what kind of bipartisan difference has ambassador nikki haley made in that role? is it somewhat like what she was governor of south carolina and she has some great relationships on her team, and the other one? >> adrienne: i do think she is certainly one of the most well-respected cabinet members of president trump's among democrats in a bipartisan way. she has had to face a lot of really challenging foreign policy issues under the trump administration, and she has done a very good job striking that balance of being -- representing the president at the u.n., but also -- you know, having to deal with a number of foreign policy issues in that position. for me, i wonder why she's leaving now. why leave before the midterms? i understand she's been thinking about it. >> harris: she's not leaving before the midterms. >> adrienne: and outs, rather.
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that she's leaving. i find that timing to be interesting. >> you know what it does do? i'm curious to know if you agree with this, dagan. it gives a great set of accomplishments that you can list for republicans and foreign policy. at a time, 28 days out, and then we just fill in the blank with "that's never bad timing. it's positive." >> dagen: it also gets head of this potentially leaking by any of those gossipy people in washington. if they had private conversations about her making this decision, get ahead of it. also, it puts out front and center today, a role model for all women. somebody who is strong and commanding and fierce. eloquent, and elegant at the same time. she has been -- you know, when she was criticized, remember earlier this year when she came out and announce that we would impose new sanctions against russia, larry kudlow the new
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economic advisors that she was suffering from momentary confusion. you know what her response was? "with all due respect, i don't get confused." and that she got apology from him after that. in terms of the relationship with the president, she wrote the editorial in "the washington post" in response to that anonymous editorial that was written in "the new york times" ." if you don't mind me just reading part of it -- >> harris: let's do this. she was also on "fox & friends." i don't know if your member, right after the general sudley speech. she was defending the president prayed let's watch that. kind of in the same vein, but we will at the president be talked about by nikki haley. >> you've got a president who is nonstop going all the time. the cabinet is just trying to keep up with him. he's getting done left and right treat how can you honestly think a man that doesn't know what he's doing is getting this much done on jobs, on trade deals come on foreign policy. look at the stock market. americans are living better than
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they ever have, and you are going to go question his leadership? >> harris: she has been out there speaking those kinds of words for the president. also tough when she thought she needed to be. >> dagen: the end of the editorial i was talking about in "the washington post" that nikki haley wrote, to mr. and ms. anonymous. "i say step up and help the administration do great things for the country. if you disagree with policies, make your case directed to the president. if that doesn't work and you are truly bothered by the direction of the administration, then resign unprintable. there is no shame in that. do not say in your position. and secretly undermined the president and the rest of the team. it's cowardly and a disservice to our country." >> harris: it's interesting, tom. the president knew about this, reportedly, and now we know directly from him, six months ago. i love it when grown folk can keep a secret. [laughter] our nation is depending on that to happen. apparently the only time that can happen is when it's between the president and ambassador nikki haley.
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nothing leaked for six months. that was a good thing for this country, because we needed to concentrate on other things. >> tom: i totally agree. at six ordinary. the fact that a secret of this magic mags you could kept his extrude extruder. dagan, what you're saying, nikki haley is a powerful preacher don't act on it speaker. she can talk about what the president's agenda was. what he's tried to call bush and foreign policy pretty hopeless and she's stepping out of their current role, my guess is we have not heard last from her. i don't think this is the final chapter in the nikki haley story, and i very much hope she will remain a vibrant part of our foreign policy. >> harris: how about this chapter -- "the new york times" has obtained -- excuse me, "the washington post" -- very different -- "the washington post" has obtained the resignation letter from investor haley. i just want to read a couple of blurbs here. "dear mr. president , it has bn an immense honor to serve the country in your administration. i can't think of enough.
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you will recall that when you offer me the position of u.s. ambassador to the united nations in november 2016 i accepted the offer based on some conditions. those conditions included serving in your cabinet and on the national security council and being free to speak my mind on issues of the day. you made those commitments, and you have absolutely kept them all." and she goes on to say "as a businessman, i expect you will appreciate that returning from the government to the private sector is not a step down but a step up." [laughter] "to give you time to select a replacement and to give the senate time to consider the selection, i am prepared to continue to serve until january of 2019." your thoughts? >> morgan: that's a good point about senate confirmation. as you talk about who the president could name, there is lot of people that are being speculated about but i could just never get through the senate. i think that is one of the
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reasons ric grenell, ambassador to germany who has been through senate confirmation, his name is out there. dena powell is also someone's name, she was the deputy national security advisor for the first year of the administration, although not a senate-confirm position. i have a prediction, harris -- this happened today, tuesday, and guess who's coming to the white house on thursday for lunch? kanye. [laughter] >> harris: she's joking. [laughter] >> morgan: why not? >> harris: where we going here here? the last word in that resignation letter. "i look forward to supporting our reelection as president." second to the last paragraph. "with best wishes and deep gratitude, nikki haley." also extremely interesting, adrienne, as you look at the political spectrum out there -- nikki haley on the campaign trail for donald j. trump's second term. >> she could be one who is top,
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no question. >> she didn't campaign for him in 2016. she supported marco rubio and ted cruz, not present trump. and she still got that job. >> exactly. >> harris: went all of us were wrapping up our evening, this was the big story and continues to be. supreme court justice brett kavanaugh gets his first day on the job today. his confirmation is energizing both sides of the political aisle and next month's midterm elections. we will talk why and how. and, more in today's news about ambassador mick nikki haley deg as topped up a lot of the men. the void she will leave, enter impact on the global stage as the president looks to fill the spot. stay close. ♪ make a smart choice.
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whether it was with the chemical weapons in syria, whether it was nato. saying that other countries have to pay their share. whether it's the trade deals, which has been amazing. they get that the president means business. the u.s. is strong in a way that should make all americans very proud. >> harris: and here's the president. >> when we came into office, it was almost inevitable in the minds of many that we were going to war with north korea. iran looked like a real problem. it was a question of when they would take over the middle east, prior to my coming here. now iran is fighting for their lives. also many other fronts, also. i think the world -- as nikki said -- the world is really respecting the united states again. >> harris: you are the present talk about some of those things that the united sates is juggling complex issues with north korea, iran, china. more from the state department paid i would imagine a very electric place this morning. >> it is, harris.
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the u.n. ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley, caught some folks off guard this morning. she announced to her staff, many of her staff according to an official, that she was leaving this morning prayed that she went over to the white house and spoke with the president. that is the discussion you just saw there. we have been seeing it trough the day. she took over as the u.s. ambassador to the united nations at the beginning of the trump administration would plenty of folks in washington and in capitals around the country and around the world were looking for some guidance as to what the specifics of trump foreign policy were going to be. she started out working with secretary of state rex tillerson, often speaking on issues before he spoke on issues. she took a very traditional republican foreign policy line when it came to russia and on other issues. that transitioned over under secretary of state mike pompeo. they worked together on the pressure campaign to try and get countries around the world, the united nation's security council, to cut off north korea. that effort still continues. in fact, she was just with
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secretary of state mike pompeo a couple of months ago up at the united nations pushing china and russia to enforce the sanctions that they said they agreed to and enacted. beyond that she was in the middle of u.s. foreign policy at the united nations, traditional u.s. allies applauding the united states on the response in syria to the chemical attack. the push back against russia in many places. but she also caught plenty of criticism from especially european-american allies when the united states withdrew from the iran nuclear deal. other issues like cutting off u.s. funding to a palestinian aid organization at the united nations, withdrawing the united nations -- the united states from the u.n. -- the u.n. human rights council. that something that the u.s. got plenty of christmas is don't act on criticism four. these organization's uniform. the u.s. isn't going to contribute to them. she led those efforts of the united nations. she got criticism from many traditional american allies.
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but there is still letty of work left in her office to do as she is going to stay there through 2018. a lot of that has to do with north korea, those sections, keeping those countries aboard applying that pressure while the u.s. negotiates with kim jong u kim jong un. back to you. >> harris: thank you very much. that was some great information. morgan, as we look at this and you listen to rich's reporting, it really puts in the front view how much has been a compass. but so much has to be done now. iran -- not iran, boy, that was a flip. north korea is potentially going to let us see some of those middle missile sites. we wanted to be around, but that didn't work out. >> morgan: you are right, harris. a couple of points have the next u.n. ambassador will be chosen. what a lot of people don't realize is that it's not a cabinet position. the investor actually reports to secretary pompeo. technically, they report to the undersecretary of international affairs. a guy named ambassador moly who is in the job at the moment. but nobody knows that who that,
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that's fine. secretary haley clearly has a lot of confidence with the pellet done like president pray they have a good relationship. i expect he will have a good role in who the next one will be, because that person will report to them. when you look at what she was able to accomplish in the mysteries in the last two years, its way to be difficult to replicate that in the next two years because we are entering ae we have major things going on from a foreign policy perspective. one, in three weeks, new u.s. sanctions against the iranian regime will come into play. digging will be able to talk extensively about what that made you to the oil market and how that might drive up oil prices. that will be incredibly contentious, because as we saw a few weeks ago, when the president was at the u.n. he led the meeting at the u.n. security council on and around sanctions. that's not to mention north korea and china. they will be a lot of there will be a lot of unpopular stuff, things they should be pushing. it will be a slog for anybody in
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that position. >> harris: you know it's interesting about that, too, when you talk about toughness on iran. it makes them a bit more dangerous in terms of being desperate, i would think, as well. they are known supporters of terrorism around the world. it is something to think about, too. not just the money portion of i it. >> dagen: the number one state sponsor of terrorism. when we inked that fury deal, and put cash in the middle of that to iran as a ransom in par part. one thing that i bring up, our relationship with china has gotten worse and much more tense in the last couple of days with mike pompeo the secretary of state exchanging some testy language, testy words with foreign minister wong yi in beijing. that was after mike pence just last week outlined a shift in our strategy in dealing with chm engagement to confrontation. again, very tough trade fight. this all wraps into -- you
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hammer them on the finances and the trade and their economy, and again, you starve the military complex. >> harris: can i ask you a question about that? is this the first time china has seen us act this way? i was reading this way reason e have met a stuff as we need to be, even when the stakes weren't where they are now. >> dagen: to that point that's absolutely true. particularly with the tariffs we are getting tough, saying it's not going to be a free in this country. it is good for the initial tariffs. about half of what we import from china every year, things we can buy from other nations. i just wanted to point out how tough she was in the language that she used on the human rights council, as well. >> harris: we oh one to adrienne and tom, so we will be back. for right now, let's get to this. a new era for the spring court as justice brett kavanaugh begins day one on the new job with protesting going on outside
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>> dagen: a new era for the supreme court. justice brett kavanaugh taking the bench for the first time today to begin hearing cases. this, as protests still continue outside the high court. last night, president trump hosting a ceremonial swearing-in with all the sitting justices attending. watch. >> on behalf of our nation, i want to apologize to brett and the entire kavanaugh family for the terrible pain and suffering you have been forced to endure. our country, a man or a woman must always be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. [applause] >> dagen: justice kavanaugh saying he is ready to move on,
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and promising to remain impartial as a justice on the high court. >> the senate confirmation process was contentious and emotional. that process is over. my focus now is to be the best justice i can be. i take this office with gratitude, and no bitterness. on the supreme court i will seek to be a force for stability and unity. my goal is to be a great justice, for all americans. for all of america. >> dagen: tom, how will the more conservative court -- how will it change, do you think? >> tom: just in kavanaugh's ascension to the supreme court is going to be transformative, in my opinion. it is hard to overstate the significance of swapping out kennedy for kavanaugh. kennedy, as we all know, is a swing vote on many of the most contentious cases for well over a decade.
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sometimes he votes with the liberals, sometimes the conservatives. justice kavanaugh, our expectation, people anticipate he will slide fairly often with the conservatives. you go from a person where you had a 4-4-1 dynamic 21 in which quite often you might have that 5-4 dynamic. that said, i don't think the supreme court will begin this term by saying "what precedent can be overruled? let's take this case, let's take this! list of them all out!" i think they will proceed methodically, slowly with respect for tradition and precedent. we will see changes. i just don't think we will see them in a few months. >> harris: do you mind if i follow up? do you talk about the dynamic inside the court? so much was talked about after last night from judge kavanaugh about how he really tried to bring two sides together. he will have to do that now. >> tom: i think you will, that's a great question. when they decide cases, they do in the most private way imaginable. they go into a closed room with just the nine justices, no one
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else, the door shut. they discuss, they debate. they say "here's where i'm leaving, here's what i'm doing." maybe there's a horse trained by the scenes. i think that justice kavanaugh is going to have a role to play for someone who will on occasion need to reach out to the other side, tried to build coalitions. to persuade people the force of his legal argument. i think for all of the justices it's a question of saying "look, this is an incredibly partisan process. it produced justice kavanaugh, who is now an equal member of this court. we welcome him, and he has an abort role to play going forward." >> dagen: let's get to the reason that the democrats -- apologies in advance, adrienne -- but the reason that they are so outraged and hysterical over these supreme court picks is because they have used the court system. in some way, the supreme court, to make laws that should have been done through elected officials. maybe we can get a court that the democrats don't like, because they actually have to
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get people elected to congress in order to make law. one that becomes more traditional and focused on the constitution. not making a lot of the high court. >> tom: i think that's true. look, people on all sides of the pulley go i'll agree that the supreme court may have almost assumed too important a role in our society. immigration is a great example. most americans would say this is a case where congress needs to come in. but for whatever reason, the function -- >> harris: there is light you could say that about. >> tom: absolutely. congress is not stepping up and deciding these issues. by default he gets kicked in the supreme court, which is called upon to make these decisions that in reality the palooka branch should be deciding. i think one of the reasons you see the democrats get so agitated is because, in many of the situations, the democrats have been looking to the court system to make changes that have been accomplished of the democratic process. >> harris: adrienne couple about this talk of impeaching brett kavanaugh among democrats? >> adrienne: i think that's talk your sink from the far left. he was just confirmed.
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frankly, democrats -- as outraged as we are that he was confirmed -- i think we've got to move on and take that outreach to the voting booth in 29 days. >> dagen: when you were talking about impeachment, you are just short, because you got nothing else to say if you got to talk about the beach exhibited my corporate i'll leave it there. four weeks of the day until we head to the polls but how was the battle impacting the midterm races? ♪ every veteran,
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surge in donations meant party. evidence that the nomination battle has turned into massive energy for november. in indiana, one of the most competitive races in the nation, kavanaugh was front and center. the candidates are joe donnelly and a publican businessman. watch it. >> mike was for judge kavanaugh on the first day. if president trump put up bugs bunny, mike would have said "he should go in the court." our job is to protect the court and to put people on who are qualified. >> of the democrats, including joe donnelly, will do or say anything when it comes to their political interests. it is a blood sport. as long as it's like that, you are going to have decisions made based not only on what hoosiers wants it. based on what chuck schumer wants. >> harris: adrienne, what happened to joe donnelly? i thought he was an old-fashioned -- >> adrienne: he is a blue dot. he won in 2012, 50-44. he competed with a very
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well-known republican in a red say. at times up for reelection. i think he's looking at this the way i wish joe manchin from west virginia had looked at this. if you're going to be a moderate democrat, you got to at some point give your base something to get excited about. joe donnelly and joe manchin are both very big on the second amendment. there is a lot of big issues that they signed with the republicans on. i think in this particular issue, joe donnelly -- >> harris: you make it sound like the second amendment is a concession. >> tom: it's in the constitution. last i checked. [laughter] >> adrienne: may be a better way of putting it. but the bottom line is, i think joe donnelly looks at this -- he has a lot of reasons obviously proposing -- but for kevin i came out early on before heidi heitkamp and joe manchin made the decisions. he made it very clear where he stands. i think his democratic base in india and i will reward him for that. >> harris: asked this question and nobody has been able to answer. how big are the basis of these two parties, do you think, tom? if you only get those people to
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turn out, is that enough to flip the switch on some of the seats? >> tom: probably not. it will depend on the seat. i will say this, if the democrats think that brett kavanaugh's confirmation is the key to electoral success in november, they are sorely mistaken. the thing i've seen is that the republicans, i think, have united around judge kavanaugh. they're very supportive. he looked at battleground poll numbers and some of the critical states we are focusing on. the republicans are far more united than the democrats were. not the hard-core base. >> suburban -- >> tom: the portion that doesn't like how he did it. >> of the suburban college-educated women of the swing vote, and they are very angry right now that judge kavanaugh has been confirmed to the supreme court. they are the ones that the democrats are working to turn around. >> dagen: that's a problem, you try to treat us like all women. don't treat us like a monolithic group. some women are upset about the sleaze and manipulation and the deception that we saw by the democratic senators. >> harris: by the way, that isn't always mutually exclusive from believing or supporting
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alleged victims like dr. ford. it's talked about like you have to be in one way or the other. sometimes you can drive down the center, i think, with your position. i want to ask morgan, really quickly -- what gets you to the polls more, do you think? anger, gratitude, joy? if? pure energy? is it like an energizer bunny commercial? you talk about what drives the people actually to the polls. in the polling booth. >> morgan: you are right, the motivators for the midterm are very different from the motivators during a presidential election year when you have obama or trump or some he really motivating at the top of the ticket. politico just put out a report, and i think this is interesting -- we talked about this grandiose scheme. but it comes back down to simple math. there are 209 seats that are firmly leaning democrat, and the democrats have a 23-c deficit to make up in the house. according to the map, they are nine shy of what they need to win control. their publicans have needed a
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fundamental shift for the democrats not to get those nine sheets. i think that kavanaugh will be part of it. he will be part of the shift. they are going to have to go race by race, because they are being outspent by many of these races. it is going to be -- kavanaugh outcome a month from now, even though we have early voting, we will need something else to continue to get republicans motivated. i think that's why president trump is on the trail. >> harris: that's an excellent point. the >> morgan: think it! i got a comment from harris! [laughs] >> harris: offensive complement! president trump gave deputy rado's inside vote of confidence and a ride on air force one! new information reading new questions over the report that rosen site suggested secretly recording present from a try to kick them out of office. the deputy ag get set to meet house republicans this week. what they may be discussing with him, ahead. ♪ >> tech: so you think this chip is nothing to worry about?
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official, james baker, told congressional investigators but he took mr. rosenstein's remarks very seriously. this all comes before rosenstein meets with house republicans on thursday. here's former congressman jason chaffetz on why that meeting is necessary. >> what's going on in this meeting? were they talking about invoking the 25th amendment? even if he was mocking and adjusting and saying that "maybe i won't do that," just to get to the extreme -- there was an underlying conversation with six or seven very senior fbi people in the room, and that's why you've got to have rod rosenstein in there talking to members of congress. >> dagen: tom, what do you think comes out of that meeting with congressional republicans and rod rosenstein? >> tom: i think failure is not going to be filled with over them to say, is my guess. if the stage, it appears -- look, with rod it is day by day for months. hour by hour. but the thing is, at least as of
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this moment, he appears to have the confidence of the president. after the story broke, he went to the white house and they had a sit down. whatever rod said to him apparently was enough to appease the president or to enable him to stay in the job for the time being. he's on air force one the other day, for goodness' sakes. at the moment, he is satisfied with the performance of the attorney general. i don't know if his meeting with congress coming up is going to change any of that. maybe if new allegations surface or he says something that gives the president a change of heart. at least for now it appears that rosenstein will be safe. >> dagen: morgan, you both have just jeff sessions to the present is not pleased with. these allegations about rod rosenstein. do both of them go after the midterms? do they both get fired on a treat on the night of the midterm elections? i am kind of not joking about that. >> morgan: we have the u.n. ambassador confirmed after the midterms. do i think we will be able to confirm both an attorney general and a deputy? no. that is a lot on the
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confirmation front. i don't see that happening. i think it's important to remember, dig in, who are making these accusations? both of them have been fired and lost credibility. among republicans, but many mainstream americans. they clearly have an agenda from day one, not only against the president but people working for him. to think rod rosenstein was a part of some fantasy with two other cabinet officials to invoke the 25th amendment? people need to go watch "game of thrones" or some other television show because they're getting too creative in their free time. i just don't believe -- i think it's ludicrous that that happens. i think those are fanciful things that mccabe and paige made up because they were trying to sow chaos into the cement region. i frankly don't want to hear anything else from him. >> dagen: ended, adrienne, back to rod rosenstein -- he wrote the memo that was justification for the firing of jim comey, as well. >> adrienne: , who knows, right customer you got to
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agents. regardless of where you sit on the clinical aisle, they don't exactly have a bunch of people out there. if you are rod rosenstein, i don't want him to resign for a lot of obvious reasons. but why stay? you wake up every day and wonder "is this the day i will be fired by tweet? am i still going to be in the white house customer" am i so when have my cabinet position? we will see what happens after the midterms. i have a feeling that both of these guys -- >> both of them? >> adrienne: i don't know. i think we have every reason to think you could be both of them. >> dagen: do think both of them a go, tom? >> tom: there's a good chance they will both be gone paid the president wants to have people he has full confidence. i am a supporter of the attorney general and deputy attorney general. >> dagen: are you putting your name in the hat? >> tom: i haven't ruled anything out, but i'm happy with
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my day job. i think they have been doing a good job. we will see. i will put to the president. it's his call. he deserves to have the people he wants in those job. >> dagen: thanks, tom. more "outnumbered" in a moment. liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i was on the fence about changing from a manual to an electric toothbrush. but my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. she said, get the one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's gentle rounded brush head removes more plaque along the gum line. for cleaner teeth and healthier gums. and unlike sonicare, oral-b is the first electric toothbrush brand
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harris faulkner. >> harris: thank you, guys. fox news, a big stunner. nikki haley stepping down as america's ambassador to the united nations. we are "outnumbered" over time. i'm harris faulkner. president trump says u.n. ambassador nikki haley will be leaving his administration at the end of the year. the president and haley confirming in the oval office at the president has accepted her resignation. president trump says he and haley have done "a fantastic job together." ambassador haley touted the administration's accomplishments in the united states is now respected on the world stage. >> look at what has happened in two years with the united states on foreign policy. now the united states is respected. countries may not like what we do, but they respect what we do. they noted that if we say we are going to do something, we follow it through the president proved that. the u.s. is strong again, in the u.s. is strong in a way
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