>> sandra: have a nice weekend, jon scott. we see you on the weekends. >> jon: 7:00 p.m. tomorrow, eastern. >> sandra: thinks. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: this is a fox news alert as an american pastor is detained in turkey for more than two years is free from house arrest. he could be back on u.s. soil soon. a turkish court finding andrew brunson guilty on terror-related charges. sentencing him to time served and allowing him to leave the country. president trump, who sought sanctions on turkey to press for his release, my thoughts and players are with pastor brunson and we hope to have him safely back home soon." rich edson is live at the state department with the latest. rich? >> good afternoon, melissa. officials hear it were telling

us they were feeling good going to this morning's hearing but they were saying come in the end, this is tricky. you really never know how this is going to turn out. officials have been telling us for weeks that they have been talking with turkish officials on multiple levels, having very frequent conversations and attempts to try and free pastor brunson. it's unclear where he will arrive to you. president trump has tweeted that he will be home soon. officials say that president and vice president pence wrote letters to brunson that were just delivered him. turkish officials arrested him two years ago in connection with a failed 2016 coup attempt. since then, president air to is government have arrested thousands. the use u.s. that they had beee to free brunson in july. instead they moved into house arrest. the trumpet measure should begin public campaign, even sanctioning officials over brunson's detention. the state of her and says it is

also now pushing for the release of a nasa scientist and other turkish citizens who worked in u.s. diplomatic facilities who have also been arrested. those efforts continue. the u.s.-turkey relationship had been deteriorating throughout. this is good news for it to go another direction, a positive development in that relationship. back to you, melissa. >> melissa: rich, thank you. at the state department. we will have much more on pastor brunson story in the next hour. fox news alert, new questions about how the high stakes will play out. just 25 days to go until election day, and now what appears to be a growing battle to win over women voters. this is "outnumbered" and i am melissa francis. dagen mcdowell, trish regan, fox news contributor jessica tarlov, and joining us on the

couch today is alex conant, former communications director for senator marco rubio. he is outnumbered. it's a great day to have you here, because we have so many questions as you come into the home stretch for the midterms. you have been deep in that battleground in the past. you really have some great insight for us. >> alex: am excited to be here, thanks for having me. >> dagen: we want a do to tell us how women are going to vote. [laughter] >> alex: you guys are the pros. i know, i know. i can shed a little bit of light on what's happening to some of these races. it is closing really fast. in the last couple weeks. >> melissa: obsolete, we will get right to it. as the election showdown is heating up, sources telling politico that president trump's aides are pushing them to replace u.n. ambassador nikki haley with another woman. looking to build up support among female voters. among the possible candidates mentioned -- nancy brinker, founder of the susan g, and breads breast-cancer gradation. u.s. ambassador to canada, kelly

kraft, and former g.o.p. senator kelly i out. it also mentions that reporters aren't sure how big an impact will have on undecided women voters. just this week, mitch mcconnell admitting that the g.o.p. is facing a gender gap. the ugly battle over justice brett kavanaugh has boosted enthusiasm over a public and voters, while also touting g.o.p. senate candidates like marsha blackburn in tennessee and martha mcsally in arizona. he admits republicans have some work to do. >> as far as women candidates go, we've always had plenty. we have trouble winning as many races. >> melissa: despite the gender gap concerns, republicans are still heavily featuring hillary clinton and nancy pelosi and some attack ads. watch this. >> supported hillary clinton all the way. lou clinton? they said that edmonson sounded more like pelosi than a democrat.

>> they want to help nancy pelosi passing $32 trillion government takeover of health care. >> melissa: those ads are terrifying. let me bring it back to the couch. [laughter] would you think about how this race is shaping up right now? we haven't seen a lot of movement. what you make of it? >> alex: all along, democrats have been super enthusiastic about going out and voting against donald trump. they like donald trump, but they aren't as excited about voting in the midterms until the last two weeks. we have seen, especially with brett kavanaugh and the democrats come over each. charge the character assassination on him. we have seen republicans really rally the other candidates. all these races were democrats were leading, the polls are just freaking by the day. we have a long way to go. 25 days is a long time in american politics. i feel really good about the momentum we have going to the final weeks. >> melissa: jessica, let me ask you. sometimes -- to think that they are a monolith.

they vote in this predictable way. this is the kavanaugh fight, the fight between men and women. that all women come down on the democrat side of that. don't you think a mistake? >> jessica: it's totally mistake, and we learned our lesson in the 26 election when women didn't vote for her. president trump likes to say that women support him, but in reality was 52% of white women. democrats hold an edge. of millennial women, 70% are saying they are voting democratic. we know that in the 2016 election, black women voters over 90% for the democratic candidate. those are positive numbers. but you can't take any vote for granted. after 2016, we know that people might be communicating one thing and going into that private booth and vote in quite another way. g.o.p. enthusiasm, can't deny it, it went up about six to eight points. but the latest polling shows the democrats are up 13 points on the generic ballot. i think this is our race to

lose, as it were. but it's totally possible, 75% odds. >> alex: just be very skeptical of any polling at this age. >> jessica: but you can look at trends. you can look at the trend line, and certainly with women that favors democrats. i'm apprehensive about taking that for granted. >> melissa: dagan, it reminds me -- we were all here on election night when people clearly said one thing coming out of the booth, when they were asked in exit polls pray that's pretty clear. you have already left the ballot box. it's not likely -- "who did you just vote for? "people ever avoided them or lied or something. because we all know that those numbers did not end up reflecting what actually happened that night. those of the same kind of phenomenons now. be too potentially. women don't want to be shamed by those on the left fork, got her bed not voting for someone because they share your reproductive system. you saw that with madeline

albright. remember the famous quote? "there is a special place in hell for women who don't support women." and it was that ludicrous notion that women would vote for women. every last because they believe all women would come out for her, and how dare they vote for president trump. and everything that came out of the brett kavanaugh hearings and the kind of sleaze and deception and manipulation and the lies peddled by the democrats in that hearing, it wasn't -- it wasn't just women were looking and saying "what if that was my father? my husband? my brother? my son?" they looked at it and sought democrats using a woman as a battering ram and a prop for their own gain. that left a bad taste in people's mouth. i'm not dismissing the polls. the pole, the trend is what it is. there is a lot that won't be known until people -- >> jessica: just to forget that, i want to add that the american public was dissatisfied both by how democrats and republicans handled the

kavanaugh hearing. that was across the board. it wasn't just that they thought democrats use dr. ford. they fight both sides did. >> dagen: i don't want to keep running my mouth, but that is what the republicans are going to have to hammer home. over and over and over again. it works better in a senate race versus a house race. this is how the democrats treated this woman and treated this man. >> trish: what i would say is, i hope we are reaching a stage in politics where identity politics is not mattering as much. i don't think gender politics worked in 2016. i don't think it worked in kavanaugh. i mean, as you well articulated, we all, as women, have husbands and sons and brothers and fathers. so, i don't think that we look at things as male and female as much as we think we have a very human approach all of this. there is that, and -- right, they basically exploited this woman. if she had been victimized back

then, she was just being victimized all over again by the democratic party. we all saw it, and we thought "why? why would dianne feinstein make this so public? why would she do that?" she did it for political purposes. i think we know the answer to that. >> jessica: there has been also -- g.o.p. enthusiasm went up since the hearing, but so to democrat enthusiasm. there are millions of women across the country who saw their own experience and dr. ford and her testimony. if you read about what happened with c-span, the entire day that was going on, it was women calling and crying, talking about experience that they had ten, 20, 30 years ago that they never told anyone about. dr. ford is certainly now hero. >> dagen: but dianne feinstein sat on the allegations, that's my point. every single democrat who jumped on michael avenatti's bandwagon bandwagon -- >> jessica: he's problematic for a whole host of reasons. [laughter] >> dagen: that the allegations

fell apart in that woman's first breath. >> jessica: but i don't know -- women will see the brett kavanaugh hearing issue as one that's not just about dianne feinstein, or about dr. ford and sexual assault and have seriously either party takes sexual assault? >> melissa: let me ask both of you this question on both sides of the out. to think somebody who calls into cnn or whatever -- c-span to talk about their experience, does that translate into voting for their local democratic candidate? >> alex: i think so. it also translates into voting for the republican candidate. people were hearing from ruble consent democrats, and unprecedented numbers during the brett kavanaugh hearings. people felt very strongly about it i think a prop for democrats is that there democrats votersy motivated before the hearings. now publicans are equally motivated, which neutralizes the playing field going to the midterms. >> melissa: that does seem fair. if your people who showed up in washington for those hearings to protest, chances are they were probably already voting democrat before they marched.

they were probably voting in the election if they're willing to go out to washington. >> jessica: your washing independent voters, which every election is won or lost. independent voters were across-the-board disgusted by it both parties handling of this. we are to look at how the next three and half weeks plays out. i do believe it's important to consider the long-term implications of republican senators saying things like "i believe something happened to dr. ford. i just don't believe it was brett kavanaugh." and when she was explicit that it was. >> dagen: and the implication of saying that all men just need to showed shut up. these female icons of the democratic party are still the people you see and hear from all the time. hillary clinton, loser. and nancy pelosi. i will point this out -- michelle obama, who is a driving fearful force for many women in this country, has a book coming out to get her stadium tour doesn't start until

mid-november. it's after the election. that is a missed opportunity, if you're a democrat. >> jessica: she has been on the road talk about voter registration getting out the vote. >> dagen: i know she is. >> jessica: i hope to be attending. there are also leading female figures in the party that i certainly wouldn't call losers. hillary, i don't think you are a loser, either. >> dagen: you know what i meant. >> jessica: in life you aren't a loser. kamala harris, amy klobuchar came out of those hearings quite the hero. senate candidates and congressional candidates all over the country, like amy mcgrath. you saw her pictured in that ad, who is a veteran. looking to win in tennessee. there are a lot of young women we are running in unprecedented numbers for office and the democratic party. it's not just about hillary clinton and nancy pelosi. republicans would like to tell you that, but we have a lot more. >> melissa: we have to go. a potential big development in the rush of probe. the reported major shifts, and how this could impact voters who head to the polls just 25 days from now.

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♪ >> dagen: a potential big development in the russia probe. multiple news outlets reporting that president trump's legal team is preparing written answers to questions provided by special counsel robert mueller's team about possible collusion with russia this following month of back and forth talks. off the table, reportedly, for now, questions about possible obstruction. the fox news sources say that no final agreement is in place. that the president's legal team is still working to narrow the scope of the questions and anda face-to-face interview has not yet been ruled out. here's what the president had to say about the probe on fox news yesterday. >> it seems ridiculous that i would have to do it. what everybody says there's no collusion. i will do what's necessary to get over with. i spent tens of millions of dollars doing this and it's a

disgrace. on top of that we've got committees in the senate and the house. you look at what they've done, they've interviewed anybody you can imagine you could interview. and then richard burr stands up a few days ago and says "we found absolutely no collusion." there is no collusion. but it should end, because it's bad for the country. when you talk about division of the country, it's bad for the country. how does this play out, do you think? >> alex: i think his lawyers are doing what they do, which is protect them from any kind of legal vulnerability. they don't want him to get sucked into a perjury trap of some sort. i'm a communicator. i was marco's medication structure. from a communications perspective, that's the wrong approach. you don't want to say nothing, you want to go out and answer the questions you can move move on. we are almost two years into his presidency and it's still hanging over us. i think if the president goes out and tells everybody everything there is to know, answers all the questions, we can move on. from a communications

perspective, that's the right approach. i'm sure his lawyers would strongly disagree with that. >> dagen: but the goal is to keep the president -- to keep him out of harm's way. it is pretty -- it has become pretty clear that this is a perjury trap. they would try to trap them in a process crime, if you will. because they can't nail him on anything related to colluding with russia. >> trish: if someone's gunning for you, after careful pride i think they have been gunning for him. his lawyers are doing the right thing in terms of protecting him. i think it is challenging for him, because i think he -- he wants his name cleared in all this. look, we have been at this for two years, as you say, alex. there is no evidence of anything thus far. don't get me started, we could go back to uranium one, right? it hillary clinton's connections to the russians. nonetheless, the queue investigating prayer there is no evidence of "collusion."

let's get on with it. there's a country to run. >> alex: i think that's right. ultimately won't be decided in a court of law. it will be decided in the court of public opinion. i think rudy giuliani was right when he went to it -- when they brought him and then he went on offense and started trying people why this investigation had run its course. you need to be shut down. i think answering these questions will add to that. ultimately, you can go to the american people, you can go to congress, and say "it is what it is. this is over." it will sopping up legal liability. >> melissa: i have a hard time believing this report, that he was going to answer some questions on paper and turn the back end? there is no way they would settle for that. that's just -- it's easy. it's so clear cut. that would be may be step one. then you pylon a bunch of stuff after that. in terms of going out and talking about it, this is a president who is prone to hyperbole. he's not terribly careful with his words. so it seems like that's a horrible idea. for a normal candidate it would be great to go out and clear the

air. who knows what he's going to sa say? >> alex: he's got nothing wrong -- assuming he did anything wrong. >> melissa: even if you grant that, he still go out and say something that would then be picked apart in a million pieces later. >> alex: i give her more credit than that. all day every day, i think the only way for him to turn the page on this investigation once and for all is answer all the questions and then move on. i don't think he has anything to hide. he doesn't think he has anything to hide. i understand that his lawyers are doing what they are paid to do, which is protection from any sort of legal problems or perjury traps. however, politically, that just means of this issues may continue to linger. >> dagen: he's got a real impact of every night where he can go rib on rush all he wants to. and not get accused of a crime. >> jessica: he has already threatened us six or seven times a week. that will be happening. he only gets a certain amount of argumentation and those rallies

probably because as russia told him not to go beyond. it's a witch hunt, it's a hoax. you want to get into specifics. to your point, melissa, i'm in complete agreement. if you go back to leicester whole interview which you really want to do and they sat down and he said "i fired jim comey because of the russia," which has got him and also to trouble. you know how dangerous it is for him to do an interview, as it were. the questions, at least what i've seen, the first set. miller's team has reserved the right to be able to come back with follow-up questions. this could go on for months. they keep saying we need more and more. >> dagen: so to open the door and even answering questions. he doesn't have to say -- >> jessica: he doesn't, but -- >> put this to bed, though. >> jessica: he can't put it to bed. because of what's going on, he could get started on don jr. "did you help him write the letter? when you talk about on air force one customer" i have been talking about a uranium o. >> dagen: i sit over and over, talk it to stewart if you lied

to the fbi. they can lie to you, and if you don't tell 100% truth to the fbi, they can throw you in jail. you never know what they know. throw away the key. >> alex: that's good legal advice. i'm not sure it's the best p.r. advice. >> dagen: i don't think donald trump needs any p.r. help, actually, alex. [laughs] he is his best p.r. represented. in the meantime, hurricane michael slimming the southeast, cutting a path of destruction through five states. a closer look at some of the hardest-hit areas as people begin to pick up the pieces. plus, a firestorm of criticism from the left over president trump's white house meeting with kanye west. including some remarks about the wrapper that crossed the line. we will debate it, next. ♪ what do you have there?

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>> melissa: the death toll from hurricane michael rising to at least 11 people. that number could climb as emergency crews continue searching through rubble in five

states. the storm leaving a trail of destruction stretching from the florida panhandle up to the mid atlantic. some areas still recovering from hurricane florence. right now more than 1 million people are without power it, and it could be weeks before the lights are back on. jonathan is live in panama city beach, florida. what's it like there? >> hi, melissa. we see behind me is just one example of the damage this marina suffered. this metal dry dock for recreational boats was crushed like a soda can win hurricane michael came ashore with catastrophic winds. part of this building may be salvageable, but there's a smaller facility behind it that looks like it was just picked up by the wind and drop to the ground. completely destroyed. take a look at this drone video from the air. you can see plenty of homes with roof damage, some missing groups entirely. sometimes you will see two building side-by-side, one without a shingle by out of ple

and everyone got it. there were some surprises. driving on the school's a community damage to a high-rise condominium. and yet some rvs survived virtually unscathed. over the beach and in panama cy proper, immobile a mobile homek suffered damage as you would expect. no reports of injuries or fatalities at the air force base, but officials say the damage is extensive. while the air force evacuated roughly 50 fighter jets out of the storm, some had to be left behind in hangers due to maintenance and safety issues. those suffered damage in the storm. tyndall air force base will remain closed until they determined it is safe for military personnel and their families to return. the bay county water system is down. county wide. because that water system feeds into panama city beach, city officials are urging people who

evacuated the storm during the storm, not to come back until a. one more thing to bring up, cell phone service is spotty. one network at leases entirely down. we have heard about people on this island who are trying to call friends and family on the outside world to let them know they are okay, and they are not getting through. melissa? >> melissa: jonathan, thank you. >> if you don't look good, we don't look good. this is our president. he has to be the freshest, the fly is, the fly explains, the best factories, and we have to make our core be empowered. we have to bring jobs into america. >> melissa: rap artist kanye west crating a lot of buzz with his right house visit. but it did not take long for some of the media to slam his appearance. >> what i saw was a show today. him in front of all these white

people, mostly white people, embarrassing himself. embarrassing americans but mostly african-americans. because every one of them is sitting either at home or with their phones, watching this, cringing. i couldn't even watch it. i had to turn the television off because it was so hard to watch. >> melissa: not alone. cnn's don lemon. he had a blistering take, as well. >> what i saw was a minstrel show today. him, in front of all of these white people, mostly white people. embarrassing himself. embarrassing -- >> melissa: yeah, that was the same clip. you already saw it. [laughs] you got of the first time, didn't you? hollywood melting down as well. chelsea handler tweeting "kanye west says he thinks trumpet is a father? guess who doesn't think of condi as a son customer" i wonder how she knows that.

brooklyn 99 start chelsea pretty responding to a photo of kanye west hugging trump, calling it hell on earth. wow. >> dagen: you are looking at me because i could do my imitation of a certain msnbc personality with the sneer and the glottal stop? that's how they show their disgust at whatever president trump is doing. i've got that down. again, that clip of kanye west -- he is saying that one president trump does well, we all do well. but we should root for american success. the fact that -- people are treating kanye west as if he is some puppet. some puppet of the president, as if he is somebody's pond. they literally have said that he must be mentally ill. should be there speaking that way. >> dagen: as if he can't make the decision for himself. speech is beyond the pale. it's offensive.

pg six it's not >> alex: is not as if we haven't seen a musician in the white house. i worked in george w. bush's white house. we had bought it from you to come every month he was there to talk about aids in africa. it's not unprecedented at all. i think a lot of these celebrities, frankly, are jealous that he is one of the most influence us's liberties in america. he's getting policy seven is white house. he's getting a hearing on issues he cares about like criminal justice reform, when all these other celebrity's failed to do. they failed when obama was there, and now condi is getting done. i give him some credit. i give him credit. spew when it starts to feel from the outside, if you don't agree with the left, you are either a racist or you are crazy. they're not going to call condi a racist, so they're calling them crazy. it's like, it is fascism. you've got to walk in lockstep and think the same thing, or there is something evil or

immoral or insane about you. >> jessica: i wouldn't go sparse fascism, obviously. i do think that -- frankly, on both sides, people want you to think the same way as your block typically does. i find the calling of him crazy really upsetting because he has been very open about his mental health struggles. he talked about yesterday. he is bipolar. he even talked about being misdiagnosed with a sleep disorder. it is the mental health community, doctors would tell you that it's an extremely dangerous and harmful thing to do to call someone who is suffering from mental illness "crazy" or "insane." that should go. as far as the substance of what he said, i like the sentiment of "when our present looks good, we look good." as someone who lived abroad a long time, i think that's critical for our success. there think he talked about that stood out that were very upsetting to me. i'm all for prisoner form. anything he can do to help criminal justice reform in this country, i'm with it.

i loved it when kim kardashian west came and ended did that as well. he said about hillary clinton. i love her, but the "i'm with her. " campaign message didn't resonate with me as a man. but my head makes me feel like a superhero. after he talked about being raised by a single mother. that reeks of misogyny. >> dagen: >> melissa: i want ta sound but we didn't get in the beginning. this will be going to listen to from msnbc. >> wow. okay, i'm doing this for everybody was watching as we turn the volume down. you can put it back up again. that's bonkers. >> if you think you're going to get a thoughtful play-by-play and political analysis, you're not. that was an assault on the white house. >> you can't analyze some of that stuff that was said. >> melissa: an assault on the white house? what is she talking about. a little bit of a pompous duo there. there's a holier-than-thou attitude that is present among

many members of the mainstream media. frankly, many members of the left. right now, all the left has an edge in the politic. the economy is doing great. wages are going up. unemployment is at a record low since 1969. what have you guys got a question mark identity politics. that's why he played the gender card, and you're playing the race card. here is kanye west saying "look, this president is doing a good job." somehow, because he is representing african-americans and comes from the community, it's not tolerated by the left. that is mistaken of them and certainly of those hosts that somehow think they are much better. >> dagen: the man's mother was an english professor. he lived in china when he was like eight or ten. they speak about him in a way that is so degrading. >> jessica: when you have someone with so much power you say come a black man saying things like "abolish 13th amendment," who has shown he

does have basic i'm standing about what happened during the civil war, you saw john legend speak out about that. explaining what was going on in the jim crow south. whenever president who still believes that central park's five are, who has been accused of being a racist. >> melissa: of course he has been accused of being racist. >> >> no, dig in, that's not my- >> melissa: we've got to go. i think democrats look at that scene yesterday and say "how did this this diabetes? how did they beat us customer this is crazy." i think that's the problem. present president trump steppins rallies leading up to. what is it mean for republicans? the referendum on the present. we are going to debate it. >> the only reason to vote democrat is if you are tired of

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him. in other words, a lot is at stake. present trump is making that point during a recent rally. take a listen. >> all of this extraordinary progress is at stake. it's at stake. i'm not on the ballot, but in a certain way, i'm on the ballot. so please go out and vote. go out and vote. >> trish: when it comes to keeping in front center, "time" magazine noted that "the effort has cut against republicans who once hoped to run on the 2017 tax cuts. and democrats may help them and said." democratic strategist know that it is historically difficult for sitting presidents to motivate their voters during midterms. of course, this time may be different. alex, do you think the strategies working? we talked about the motivation you're seeing in part because of the kavanaugh hearing. should the president be hitting

the campaign trail in this way right now? >> alex: midterms are about turnout. the side that turns out most of their voters, is not about what it would be. republicans are underperforming because we were not going to turn out our voters. we just had an enthusiasm gap that was real. trumpeting the battleground, especially in red states, a state that he won, to turn on his voters, that's going to help republicans. there's no questions about it. >> trish: they like him, right? that's why you're receiving the stadium was packed. this what we saw in '16. if his commodities him, and selling himself and his ability to help our economy, et cetera, why wouldn't you do that? >> dagen: and he is an important voice in reminding americans of how good the economy is. of how low -- she went through some of what is going well in this country. but how low unemployment is. how wages are growing faster than inflation. how -- you know, unemployment for latinos in this country, black americans, even women are

at near record lows. that's really important. but if you look -- this is some interesting information -- and through the last four elections, drop off between those who vote for democratic house candidates in a presidential election year and those who vote for democrats and how selections two years later have been bigger than the drop experience by republicans. in fact, turn out for obama fell 40% between his election year and the midterm election year. it's the cult of personality sometimes that doesn't work. >> melissa: in this case it might for two reasons. for one, when you talk about presidents not getting people into the dash to get out and vote, or really to help a lot in the midterms. in a lot of cases they don't have the time and they don't try. in this case we have a president who, for ever reason, it never gets tired. you see the presence almost kill over dead and he's going onto the next place. that's kind of different.

also the idea that people living in either our media bubble or the washington bubble always underestimate the how he connects with regular people because they aren't regular people. really, when you see him out at -- when he goes to a flood or hurricane or whatever, he really loves and connects with regular people. that is always locked on all of us in new york. >> dagen: when he was campaigning, in 2016 leading up, he would get off the point. he would ask the cops where the nearest jimmy john's is. there's that connection. >> trish: that matters. people vote for someone they can trust. someone like them. >> jessica: that was bill clinton. i have a friend who works in -- since you have to distract him when he comes up because he wants to talk to everybody that's around there. i do think it's good for republicans that a president out

there steps in places that hillary won overwhelmingly. he should stay away from those. there is no universal player that is going to be the be-all and end-all to win. enthusiasm matters, he does rile a big crowd, but he's not the primetime ratings winner that used to be. we are seeing less coverage of israelis because they are not bringing in the viewership they used to. i don't think israelis has the same effect they did going to the 2016 -- >> dagen: they would rather show you the rehearsed smearing and the glottal stops. >> alex: it's a lot of local media. it's even better. as long as they're showing it in fargo -- >> and bayville. >> melissa: that's a great point. >> trish: of the stock market stabilizing here a bit. down slightly after the dow's two-day nosedive. now it's down 13, not bad.

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>> dagen: it's friday and you never know what will happen on wall street. let's take a look at the big board. the dam is down about 36 points.

if you had and what happened in the prior two days, we were looking for some green. markets went up early in the day, but stocks fell more than 13,000 points. wincing thursday. the biggest two-day loss for the dow jones industrial average. those blue-chip stocks. about a month. president trump was brushing oe lawsuit, placing the blame squarely on the federal reserve. watch this. >> still at 40% for the period of time. markets are way up over what they were. it is a correction that i think is caused by the federal reserve with interest rates. the dollar has become very strong. frankly, people can debate whether or not they like a strong dollar or not. the fed is out of control. i think what they are doing is wrong. under the obama administration, had a lot of help, because they had very little interest. >> dagen: trish, i have always taken the hope that the president would just say --

which ronald reagan did after the '87 crash parade he's talking about interest rates. your new show starts on the fox business network. >> trish: s, trish regan, prime time. right after lou. >> dagen: it is rising interest rates. interest rates are going up at the federal reserve level. the economy is so healthy. the economy, it's doing great. by the way, i will be the first to tell you -- i saw it before it was coming. 2008, years before that was coming. i get very nervous when i start to see economic data that isn't good. right now i'm not nervous. our economy, the fundamentals of our economy, are very, very strong. i would like to see more wage growth that we are getting there. nearly 3%. there is a lot of good news out there. sure, there are headwinds. i don't think any of this is about that. i think the sell out that you have seen and the volatility and

trepidation is really because people are saying "i've got more choices now. hey. i could put my money in a cd and make nothing." you get a return on municipal bond right now. it's a rotation. >> trish: it's to be expected but doesn't mean anything for the economy overall. >> dagen: but in terms of messaging, the five as talk about all time and with the present reserve is doing, is a good or bad? >> alex: he's not the first present to complain about the federal reserve. >> dagen: but he has like five times this week. >> alex: the problem is he's taking credit for the stock market when it goes up, and not when he gets blamed for it going down. the fundamentals are good, politically that means that he is going to benefit from a strong economy. >> dagen: more "outnumbered" in just a moment great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein

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>> so i mentioned your new show on the fox business network and we just whipped up this giant promo for you in the commercial break. it's at 8:00 p.m. monday, he premieres, tricia regan, prime time. what if you got coming up? you have some big guests. i'll leave it at that. >> for me, is not the president. >> i'm super excited. first of all, we are in a 24/7 news cycle so 8:00 at night, we

are going live now on fox business and we are going live because you as needed. the viewers are craving in the news. we are on the front lines of history right here. this intersection between economy and politics is critica critical. >> i loved it, it was fun. for back right now, melissa francis is senator harris. >> melissa: fox news alert on breaking news out of turkey, a court freeing an american pastor held prisoner there for two years. this is "outnumbered" over time and i'm melissa francis in today for harris faulkner. the turkish court releasing pastor andrew brunson who had been held in prison and under house arrest for two years. convicting him of terror charges, today but sentencing him to time served. the pastor's release has been a big priority for the trump administration and could easily stra