why the mobs? unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us.nk let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham takes it over from here. we are always fair and balanced. we hope you have a great weekend.fr ♪ ea >> laura: i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" inn washington tonight the last 24 hours have revealed so much about the left clubhouse. no difficult ideas and sometimes they are viciously intolerant of political differences and end up watching deeply personal and destructive attacks against anyone that violates their orthodoxy. most recently, someone like kanye west or justice brett kavanaugh felt their scorn. tonight, as we barrel toward the midterms, we will reveal the w latest attacks and the possible political fallout. tucker carlson, raymond arroyo,

corey lewandowski and howie kirk all here. but first, the odious kanye west pile on. the outrageous attacks continue as the left pulls its hair out over this meeting that kanye had yesterday with president trump. msnbc guest michael eric dyson, you have seen him a lot on cable news, he pretty much called kanye just too stupid to talk to the president on any issues regarding race and trying to give the president cover on whac he really is, i guess, just a white nationalist. watch. >> we as african-american people cannot stand idly by while you give cover to a man who has proved to be a white supremacist, who has no interest in the african-american people. this is such a blitzkrieg of blathering ignorance. kanye, please cease the

interventions through media about trying to engage issues of which you don't have sophisticated knowledge. >> sophisticated knowledge like beyonce and jay-z. when they are in the obama white house. donna brazile is accusing kanye of setting african-americans back 155 years. look at that. joining me pastor darryl scott,k ceo of the national diversity coalition, leo perel and jeffret lord and garland nixon, radio talk show host and political analyst. great to have you all on. thanks for joining me. leo, let me start with you. michael eric dyson said white supremacy by ventriloquism. when i hear that, leo, to set aside politics.

if a conservative said that about an african-american celebrity who was liberal, who was showing up with obama oror clinton or anyone on the left for that matter, there would ber hell to pay. because kanye is in the oval with the president, it is okay to call it a minstrel show, call him stupid, insane. he is now just a dummy with donald trump operating his dummy body. how could you think that was a good thing?? >> well, let me be very clear. i am not going to condone a personal attack by dyson. i will simply say this. i was embarrassed when i saw kanye west speak yesterday. it was a photo opportunity for trump. why?n because i challenge anyone on this panel to say that the elimination of the 13th amendment is a good idea, that stop and frisk is it. kanye west does not have the skillset to talk about the 13th amendment, which he did

yesterday, stop and frisk, whic does not exist and kanye west is a guy that said that george busd hates black people. let me be very clear. he is not a condoleezza rice or a colin powell. kanye west does not have the skillset to talk about any of those subjects. i challenge anyone on this paneh to tell me they support the idea of eliminating the 13th amendment. tell me if that is not whacko. >> i'm not getting you on the 13th amendment. i'm not sure he ever said it in those terms. >> he said it should be eliminated. >> let's go to pastor scott. pastor scott, kanye west is a very unconventional figure. his music is very popular. he is one of the top rap artists in the world. he speaks to a certain segment of the population. again, very well think,

-- wealthy. incredible entrepreneur, not my cup of tea but he comes out and he says a few things about fatherhood and people who lack masculine role models. i love this president. i want him to be successful. suddenly, he becomes, oh, my god, he is the kkk. i thought the reaction to him was just way over the top. i was wondering why? what are your thoughts? >> well, kanye west critics have a problem with how he said what he said and who he said it to. his content, when you dissect the content of what he said, what did he say that was so wrong?f even when my brother was talking about his abolishment of thet 13th amendment. there is a component thatpo legalizes slavery for criminals with blacks being disproportionately represented. >> you are wrong. >> calm down. i didn't interrupt you. with blacks being disproportionately incarcerated. i had a brother-in-law that served years in prison. he said it is turning into institutionalized slavery.

they don't like that kanye west is his own man. whatever you say he is not qualified to speak on, he is qualified to have his own opinion. he doesn't try to be a condoleezza rice or anybody but kanye west. i don't like all the people that criticize the fact that he went up there. >> you are ignoring what he said. >> all the people that refused an opportunity to go themselves, kanye west was there unfiltered and the president allowed him to be. >> he is not qualified, just like you.. >> they don't have the courage to go up and sit down at him and talk themselves, grow a pair an, go up there and talk to him yourself. >> laura: i want to go to garland. i actually think this is an interesting moment. it is an interesting moment because the conversation about race in america to me is stuck. it is not moving beyond where it is right now. again, kanye is this

unconventional guy, an entrepreneur, businessman, rapper. he starts small business. he is interested in technology. i don't know him. i don't know much about him but to me what he is saying is, let me think for myself. don't denounce me because i actually like this guy who is president and want to make him successful. why would the liberals be against that? everybody is for freedom of thought, be who you want to be, he can press who you want to be. why are liberals so exercised about one guy? you have the whole celebrity community on your side. one guy that says he likes trump. >> i think there are two o dynamics going on here. let's be real and honest. within the black voting bloc, donald trump is absolutely loathed. >> 36% approval is not bad. >> i'll tell you what. >> 36% approval yesterday by rasmussen. double what it was last year. you guys are worried about that, aren't you?

>> let's talk about that.nd i understand those numbers. let's talk about the second or third week of november and see if those numbers hold up, which they certainly won't. it's because they held up in 2016, i can tell you that much. >> number two, you have got kanye west, let's be honest, he does have a history of some mental issues and some outrageous statements. a guy who is worth $350 million to $400 million. he does not speak for the black community. if donald trump was to ask me to speak with him tomorrow, i woulk but i would expect to be vilified, because i know the black community hates him so bad that i better be ready. >> laura: hold on, guys, hold on. when you say the black community hates him so bad, how does that advance the black community to say that? >> i don't think it advances the black community.y. let me tell you something about the history of the black community in politics. >> laura: they didn't think

that -- wait a second. they didn't think that five years ago. he was a featured guest and celebrity on music videos and movies. he was revered by the entertainment industry, the sports industry but suddenly donald trump is running the country, we have the lowest unemployment in 49 years for thu country, historically low unemployment for african-americans, still we have work to do but we are making some progress. when you say they hate donald trump -- there is something that is not adding up here, garland. i'm honestly trying to make progress, not just doing a talking point. there seems to be a bridge that can be built between what the president wants to accomplish for america and african-americans. do you think so? a >> absolutely not. >> laura: reform? >> forget it. when they saw a bunch of guys in charlottesville with nazi flags and donald trump hats, that was it. there is no coming back. >> laura: no coming back, because he controlled that. jeffrey lord, go ahead.

>> rather laura, you hit it exactly on the head. kanye west walked off the liberal plantation. that is not supposed to be done. they are coming from him. laura, i am going to read you a line, which i know you recogniz well, since it was said by t justice clarence thomas, for whom you clerked. what justice thomas was put through was a high-techke lynchg for uppity blacks who dare to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. that is exactly what is going on here. >> what does that have to do with kanye west?se >> laura: hold on, leo. >> kanye west said the other day, i'm an american.th he is an american. he has every right to think whatever he chooses to think. he should not be come for and not have people going after him like this. this is a disgraceful performance, disgusting. >> he didn't know what he was talking about. >> he is an american hero for

having the guts to stand up and say what he believes. t >> laura ingraham has done a beautiful job of talking about kanye has a right. no one is questioning that.. laura ingraham, you know as well as i do, as a lawyer, what cames out of his mouth, the content, made no sense.n >> laura: i have a question for you, leo. when lebron james comes out and says as he did some months back that donald trump, i'm paraphrasing it, he doesn't care about people. it was featured everywhere. lebron james is an amazing person, incredible athlete but i don't know how much he studies politics. maybe he studies a lot, maybe he doesn't. do you throw out a few blankity blank lines about trump and suddenly you are a hero in the liberal sports world. if you criticize lebron james,

you can't criticize lebron james but kanye west does it in the oval office and suddenly it is, you don't know anything.n does kanye west know any less than lebron james knows about politics? probably not. >> great point. >> laura: probably not. they are probably about the same. i it is not their -- it is like i don't know anything about basketball or rap music. that's okay. they have a right to speak out. that's my point. >> you make a good point about lebron james and kanye west.th the point here is everyone on this panel, you heard the content of the 13th amendment and stop and frisk. everyone on this panel knows there is no stop and frisk in this country.e that came out of kanye west mouth. what's scary about it. >> laura: no, no. i understand what you are saying. leo, you are monopolizing the panel. i love that you have so much emotion.on there is a push to bring back stop and frisk, because people think including rudy giuliani, that it was successfu in stopping crime. he was coming out and saying, we don't want stop and frisk.ha he was acting in a proactive way

for what he happens to believe. i want to go to pastor scott. pastor, again, i think there is an enormous amount of progress that can be made on race relations. i think it is probably going to come from new people, not from anyone on this panel. it is going to come from new thinkers, people from different walks of life. it is going to bust the old stereotypes. i don't know if it is kanye west. maybe it is not. i don't like the idea of casting off people as deplorables or he is stupid or mental. i don't know. he is a person. judge him for what he is. >> the black community doesn't hate trump.oe the black media hates trump. the black media is a mouthpiece for the democratic party that hates trump. the black men on the street don't hate trump. they like his policies. >> you don't speak for the black people.

>> laura: leo, give it a rest. nobody speaks for anyone. we are speaking for ourselves. go ahead. >> i talked to some guys earlier from chicago. the guys on the street of chicago appreciate kanye west standing up for them, speaking up for larry hoover, speaking up for other people and conditions in chicago and saying we want to make those conditions better. you guys are upset because he is not allowing himself to be a puppet for the democratic party. >> who? >> you and who else you speak for. >> shame on you. >> laura: guys, guys, hold on. >> you don't mind vilifying or crucifying another black man on television. you don't mind doing that. you're a hypocrite. >> laura: let's go to don lemon. he had a lot of heads turning and involved the phrase minstreu show and kanye. >> i feel bad for him. what i saw was a minstrel show

today. him from front of all these white people, mostly white people, embarrassing americans, mostly african-americans, everyone is sitting at home or with their phones watching it cringing. i couldn't even watch it. >> laura: this is from someone who is doing some type of shot on new year's eve on the cameras and speculating that a black hole could have swallowed up the malaysian airliner. i like don lemon. he is like a nice guy but, again, it is the pejorative. it is not dealing with any of the substantive issues on table, the lack of father figures, how african-american kids and all kids without father figures gravitate toward others that can give them guidance, that racism as a weapon, instead of racism as something we want to defeat and move beyond. i was actually disappointed with don lemon on the minstrel show

comment. no conservative could have ever said that. hold on. let garland speak. >> you should know about minstrel shows. that should be his area of expertise. >> i kind of cringe. >> laura: hold on, guys. garland is speaking. >> i cringe, because it is the person. i like kanye west. i don't dislike him.cr you remember the taylor swift issue.pe you never know what he is going to say. i am always on the edge waiting to hear what he says. he is the in the alternate universe. he is not the right spokesman. now conservatives are holding up this guy as thou he is speaking for all the wonderful trump is doing for black people in america. h >> laura: i don't think any one speaks for any one big group. when jesse jackson comes out and he says he represents all black people.'t i always have people say jesse jackson is an interesting guy but he doesn't speak for me.

>> garland doesn't speak for me either. garland doesn't speak for me. >> laura: i get it. everybody is speaking for himself or herself. i understand that.odg all of us are trying to get too the point where individuals of any color can speak their mindf and have their ideas judged for what they are, for what they are. >> the question is, is kanye a credible spokesperson for the issues of black america? i think most black americans are looking at it and said no. he hit on a couple of issues i would say i agree. a >> laura: is lebron james? >> no, but he didn't say much. >> kanye west has a right. >> all he has to do is speak for himself. >> he can speak for himself. >> he can give his truth. >> laura: everyone has their truth. i am not putting down lebron james. he has a right to speak and campaign for anybody he wants. all i'm saying is when one of the best, if not the best basketball player on earth

speaks and does a rally for hillary, nobody is saying, what's his expertise.he suddenly, they are saying kanye has no expertise. versus whom? we have to be clear on what we are talking about here and who is representing what group. i think the more voices, the better. that's my view. judge everybody for their opinions and whatever they are and i think it is a good thing. i value all my opinions tonight, every one of you. all right, guys, for more insight into the mind of president trump and the conservative populism that drives him, pick up a copy of my new book "busting the barricades," what i saw as a populous revolt. o it is in bookstores everywhere. cable news hosts, particularly some at cnn, have donned their psychiatry caps to diagnose kanye as totally crazy. one of the country's pre-eminent psychology professors is here to tell us why that language might be damaging. don't go away. we don't just go against the grain.

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you know what's not okay, using someone's mental >> laura: you know what's not okay, using someone's mental health struggles as a weapon when you attack them for, basically, you don't have an argument against them. so you just say they are nuts. that's what they are doing with kanye west. his political views not all that important. you just hurl insults at him to try to demonize him. it is simply disgusting.he >> this was an embarrassment. kanye's mother is rolling over in her grave. >> not only was this a crazy conversation for this white house. this is the kind of conversatiot that would typically be held between people wearing hospital bracelets. >> i don't know if he is open to help. i feel like this is a public cry for help. he is not getting any help. >> there was a ranting lunatic in the oval office today. >> kanye, back away from the cameras. go get some help and then come back and make your case.

>> get help? dr. lemon, why are you stigmatizing people who battle mental health issues. how dare you fry to minimize what he is saying because he is open about some of the mental health issues he is having. don lemon is a good guy. joining me, patrick corrigan, author of the book "the stigma effect quit. how deleterious is it for anyone in the right wing or left wing to exploit another person's medical history as was done over the past 24 hours regarding kanye west? >> reducing somebody's conversation to illegitimacy by saying they are mentally ill is in the same category as stigma related to racism, sexism, homo phobia, it is saying your message doesn't count because

you have had an issue with bipolar disorder or mental illness. the stigma of mental illness is not trivial. people labeled are unable to get jobs, live independently, get good health care. it is all because messages like this perpetuate them as beingtl different or worse than we are. >> laura: professor, it seems like it would deter people from getting counseling. let's say they lost a parent, went through a difficult time, if they know later on they are going to be described as one of those people who got help. as someone who knows a lot of people over the years who have gone through incredibly difficult period of time, we want to encourage people to talk to others, to get help. to me, in this case, its mostly

liberals sadly in this situation who are demonizing someone just because, i guess, they are in the oval office with trump and thrown in the crazytown deal as a way to demonize him and dismiss him. >> any time you throw in the word crazy, whether it comes from the left or the right, it undermines the opportunities of people who struggle with mental illness.ni by the way, that's a lot of people. epidemiology suggests it could be one out of five people have a serious mental illness. the stigma fundamentally comes from the label. i am seeing somebody come out of the psychiatrist office and i know they must be nuts or coming out of the counselors office and they must be crazy. they are going to avoid those labels or getting the treatment that will work. >> thank you so much for your insight, professor. obama's white house was the revolving door for celebrities. remember when he had the summith

with rappers ludacris. about criminal justice report form? you probably don't because the left wing media didn't freak out over it. joining us with reaction, doublt standard howie kirt. howie, media buzz, great show on the weekends on fox. this is wild. i remember when kanye came and did his poetry slam at the white house. truth be told, i kind of laughed at it.in i thought the poem was really bad he did on stage. obama was really at ease with celebrities.s. obviously, they loved him. no one cared. >> obama's celebrities and rappers they had the approved ideology. the media kind of celebrated it. look, what kanye did in the ovao office, it is fine for critics to say, it was weird, strange, bizarre. even donald trump seemed kind of speechless for a moment but the brutal nature of the criticism is driven by ideology.

when kanye west was talking about, george bush doesn't care about black people, a lot of the liberals said he is a cool dude. because he is wearing the red hat and embracing donald trump, he must be loko. >> what are the chances next week he will be wearing a cory booker hat? is there any chance? jacque spire, congresswoman from california said this about kanye and his mental health. >> it was a combination of stream of consciousness.th i felt like i was sitting in on a psychiatric visit and a commercial for donald trump. it wasn't newsworthy certainly but i would suggest that the president should maybe curtail these kinds of engagements. 36% approval from rasmussen among african-americans. it seems like they are more worried about kanye's effect on the midterm elections than his mental health.

>> in addition to the congresswoman, it seems like the harshest criticism is coming from other african-americans. don lemon bringing his late mother into it. cnn said he was a token negro. i haven't heard that phrase in decades. it is rooted in the notion that black people who are for somebody like donald trump, they can't know what they are talking about. they are completely miss informed and they have serious issues and all that. they no longer have a monopoly. the piling on about kanye west, probably doesn't know that much more about politics. >> laura: more so than who, matt damon? >> he was there to talk about a serious issue. the freakout is so over the top. it can only be written off as idealogical opposition to a guy that thinks differently. >> laura: in the p.c. language, police strike again.

whoopi goldberg reveals a he too moment. i'll tell you more coming up.

>> laura: it is friday. >> laura: it is friday. it is time for political correctness now messing with our language. did whoopi goldberg just admitme her own he too moment. we are joined raymond arroyo. raymond, i hope you can do this without injuring yourself. what am i now not allowed to say? what words can i not say, p.c. police? >> we came across this article in a san francisco periodical where the term indian summer may not be used. you shouldn't use indian summer. the problem is this. >> laura: take those down.

>> indian summer may have its origin in cargo ships traveling the indian ocean. it may have nothing to do with native americans. there are other words we can no longer use. indian summer, sitting indian style, off the reservation. don't say off the reservation, ingraham. black ball. >> laura: black ball. i used that today. >> whitewash. don't use whitewash, you will offend me. inmates running the asylum. >> laura: i used that yesterday. >> and one you talked about earlier. freshman.d >> laura: you can't say first year. >> because you are discriminating against women. >> laura: i thought it was like, don't be fresh, man. >> a new poll by a group called more in common. they found 80% of people, 80% found political correctness a problem. when you break it down by race, 79% of whites and 82% of asians and 87% of hispanics and 75% of african-americans think political correctness is a problem.

>> laura: then, hate speech is a problem. >> 82% thought it was hate speech. >> laura: let's talk about neil patrick harris. >> speaking of the p.c. police. "the view" had a moment few caught the other day. actor, neil patrick harris, revealed he did his first film with whoopi goldberg and said this. >> i did my first movie ever with whoopi goldberg, a movie called "clara's heart." she told me -- she told me i was what, 15, 16 years old. she told me on my last day of shooting that ten years, in ten years time, she was going to have sex with me. >> i might have. in those days, you could actually have some fun like that. you can't do that now.w. >> i was not offended. i'm looking forward to it. >> have some fun like that. imagine, imagine if a young female actress got up and said

some academy award winning director had told her when she was 15 that he would have sex with her in a few years, the view" would be asking for that guy's head and promising he would never work again. there apparently is one rule book for hollywood and one rule book for everybody else. >> laura: everyone was kind of like -- >> ho-hum. >> laura: the cat got her tongue. >> i did notice that. james gunn was the director of the big marvel guardians of the galaxy. they ended up slicing his contract, canceling his involvement and they moved him to d.c. comics, he is directing "the suicide." he wrote these pedophile tweets and they fire him and rehire him. >> laura: connor, "last man standing," where are we on that? >> it is the biggest hit. it is a tim allen show, a conservative show.

bounced off of abc. it beat the murphy brown premier by 1 million viewers. you know how they pushed that. what happened next, it beat "will and grace" this week. "the connors" is in full pass mode. >> laura: raymond predicted connors without roseanne. >> three or four episodes and it is canceled.di executives are telling the daily mail they think they may have fired roseanne too early. >> laura: they had a hit show and they blew it. raymond, fantastic, as always.y hours after the gop releases an ad comparing the left to an unhinged mob, they are proven right. vandals defacing a new york republican club in the middle of the night. plus, tucker carlson is here to reveal kanye's important message about men in modern society. stay with us. ♪ ) everybody wants a new,

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>> they go low, we kick them. >> if you see anybody at a restaurant or a gasoline station, you get out and you -- >> i don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. maybe there will be. >> please, get up in the face of some congress people. >> is this the, quote, unquote mob?e, >> laura: that is a new ad from the gop. here to react, former trump campaign manager. corey lewandowski is here. how can you dispute what you saw last week, the banging, clawinga at the door, getting in your face, getting an inch from

someone's face, cornering poor old susan collins in the elevator anything but a mob? >> it is a lot like what we havr seen on a number of occasions on the republican side. let's talk about the tea party protest? >> laura: never, never. cornered people in an elevator? they were wearing betsy ross outfits. how is that threatening? >> they were showing up at town halls. >> laura: asking questions. >> they were disrupting them with the intention of disrupting and getting people upset. we can talk about people showinn up at barack obama rallies armed. >> laura: armed? name three. >> we can talk about the armed militia that created a standoff. >> let's not forget charlottesville. >> laura: charlottesville is what the left continues to throw up. corey lewandowski, what we saw over the last three weeks in washington, people with signs, "f" kavanaugh, predator, kavanaugh, things i can't say on television.

susan collins is about the most moderate person you can get. jeff flake probably had to wear a pair of depends in the elevator, so upset about thet. crowd coming in on him. that's not what america wants. people are pretty happy with the economy. c >> people are very happy by in large. this movement has gone back to the day that donald trump was sworn into office. the next day was the woman march in washington, d.c. if you remember what they did, they celebrate by throwing rocks through storefront glass, lighting cars on fire and having what exactly the republicans describe as a mob taking place. what we saw last week in washington is hundreds of people being arrested, people clawing at the doors of the supreme court, running people out of restaurants, screaming at staff members who work for the government. that never transpired when the democrats were in office. never once did i see david axlerod be thrown out of a restaurant because the republicans are so angry at the

policies. never once did i see democratic senators have to be removed from restaurants or cabinet officials because the crowd was so outrageously screaming at them because of the policies, because we don't do that. i remember the tea parties. i took place in them. they were orderly and concerning and very well thought out. there was no mess. we didn't light cars on fire as a sign of our angst or disgust. >> laura: a new york republican headquarters was vandalized with all sorts of antifa-like graffiti. it happened last night. before i let you go, president trump is charging full steam ahead with the judicial appointments including the ninth circuit. he is by passing the blue slip, meaning feinstein and kamala harris don't get a sane-off. >> it is unfortunate he is doing that.

this is a process that is in place so that constituents can talk to their senators and voice their opinions. that is not happening. >> laura: they can get stuff out of fbi files but that happened last week. >> there is a lot happening under this administration that didn't happen before, including the separation of thousands of kids from their families. people have lots of reasons to be upset.dedi >> laura: corey, ninth circuit decision. we have like ten seconds. >> 84 new judges this president has appointed. the senators had their chance to work with the white house to put a package together for the ninth circuit. they couldn't get it done because they wanted to play partisan politics.ca >> laura: very interesting, guys. both of you, fantastic. coming up, fox's own tucker carlson, kanye west's message for the modern man up next. so i can buy from

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>> i'm with her just didn't make me feel as a guy that didn't get to see my dad all the time like a guy that could play catch with his son. there was something about when i put this hat on, it made me feel like superman. this hat, it gives me power in h way. >> laura: i am with her. didn't hillary clinton think that that phrase might alienate a large part of the population.c it took someone like kanye west to put a bright red hat on and say, hey, what about us? here he is back in august explaining why the megahat represents a lot more than just supporting trump. >> it represented overcoming fear and doing what you felt no matter what anyone said. the hip-hop community can't bully me. at that point, if i'm afraid to

be me, i'm no longer you. >> laura: joining me is host of tucker carlson and author of "the new york times" number one best seller, "the ship of fools" that just knocked bob woodward off the number one spot on "the new york times" best seller list. tucker, first of all, i'm so happy i know you. >> congratulations, thank you, laura. >> laura: when i was going through some tough times, you were one of the first to reach out to me. people have to know this about tucker, you are a really good person. >> well, i'm not a good person but i have deep sympathy for anybody, including kanye west, who i know nothing about. n i feel for people who are all of the sudden getting it from everybody. >> laura: i saw your show last night where you talked about the

issue of fathers and missing fathers and entire segments of america. he was talking about that. look, he is not a political person. he is not going to speak in pundit terms. he is going to speak the way he is going to speak. it is not my music or my thing nor is it yours. that was an interesting moment where he said the masculine presence in a family is so important and she didn't speak to me. it wasn't because she was a woman. it was because of how she was portraying her campaign. >> he is absolutely right. the democratic party is anti-masculinity. they are anti-father. they have to be. that's their base. that is just true. they have been for a long time. not everyone in the democratic party but the leadership of the party is. ask a leading democrat. it is really simple. i have done it. is it better, all things being equal, is it better for kids to grow up with the dad at home? they won't say it, even though it is true.it i grew up for part of my

childhood in a single parent home. it was great. i am not attacking anybody. if you can't say that, you are lying. y everyone knows you are lying. he kind of calls them out in his stream of consciousness way. we should not attack him for that. >> laura: david gergen, one of your close friends on cnn yesterday said the following. let's watch. >> is that what's going on with some of the men in this country and their relationship to trump? is being for trump make them feel more masculine? i don't know the answer to that. boy, there was sure an overtone of it in that session.o >> laura: in other words, the toxic masculinity, it is a brutal type of being masculine to be in line with trump. >> dave is doing the best he can. i am not going to attack him. >> laura: why not. >> i feel bad for him. that's real. men feel that they can't be men and that's not a talking point. i'm not a men's movement guy or

whatever. if you had a movement that was against toxic femininity or homosexuality, you would say you are attacking people for who they are, because it is mean and it hurts kids when you do that. we send $60,000 a year that have entire departments devoted for attacking men for being men. if you have a son, this is a huge threat to him. if you have a daughter, who is she going to marry? these are central questions.e >> laura: the interest thing about tucker's book, it is such a great read. in your "ship of fools" is lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell. both of them were critical to pushing kavanaugh over. >> they did a great job this week. anybody who believes in fairness should be grateful to them. i am. >> laura: we haven't gotten the wall yet, tucker. >> which is not a small thing. by the way, when republicans face difficulty in the mid-terms, maybe it is because the party ran on building a

wall, not on an abstract wall but on a physical wall and then they sort of give the finger to their voters, well, the wall is kind of stupid. maybe it is stupid. it doesn't matter. if you tell me i'm getting a pony for christmas, you better not give me a bag of hair. i'm going to be really disappointed. >> laura: i got a bag of hair once. tell me about your daily life. you wake up. give me your time.f if you had to just drop into tucker carlson's life, when you wake up in the morning, it is approximately what time? >> i wake up around 7:30 orck 8:00. >> laura: what's the first thing you do? >> my wife wakes up with a cup of coffee and i sit and do e-mail and talk to her for a couple of hours. i try to do all my work sitting in bed. >> laura: like churchill. >> i work and talk to a million different people. i don't go to lunch. i typically go into work and do a ton of writing and the show

ends and i go out to dinner with my beloved nephew tonight. >> laura: how many dogs are in bed with you? >> two spaniels, meg and dave?ni >> laura: are they at the top of the bed?ie >> all four of our kids haveve gone. we are the parity of the people that are very focused on their spaniels. one i think that is basically mine. the smaller spaniel, the sub spaniel is more loyal to her. >> laura: are they hunting dogs? >> both are bird dogs. >> laura: pheasant, quail? >> pheasant, quail. i go shoot pigs once in a while. i grew up bird hunting. >> laura: how about a tennis ball? >> they will take a tennis ball. they come fishing with me a a l. >> laura: i am so happy for you. tucker is one of -- >> nobody has ever asked me that.

i can't believe i said that on tv. i'm embarrassed. >> laura: tucker carlson "ship of fools," get this book. it is phenomenal. it trails the elites on the left and right and people took it and said, we are going to go in a different direction. congratulations. you are such a great colleague on this network. will you come on my show next week?n >> done. >> laura: can i come on your show next week? >> any time. >> laura: i'll walk over to that studio. get this book, phenomenal. great stocking stuffer. early shopping for christmas. we'll be right back with today's biggest winner and loser.

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pastor brunson was finally released by the turkish government after pressure from the trump administration and a little help from the private sector that is him tonight with the ambassador from germany on his way back to the united states we are so happy you are on your way back to the united states and thank y you to president trump. >> the pope accepted a resignation in the wake of a sex abuse scandal in pennsylvania but on the whole there was a lot of good in regard to sex abuse a allegations he was denying the situation but that was his undoing a lot of victims are edupset even though he has resigned he is in charge in

washington until the successor is named. >> that's all the time we have tonight. "fox news @ night" takes it from here. shannon: we begin with a fox news alert pastor brunson is coming home. it is a diplomatic triumph for president trump heading into the midterms next month and also welcome relief for the pastor and family and friends and we will join mark walker life. a republican office vandalized in front of a speaker comingng in a warning to the g.o.p..