unfortunately, that's all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham takes it over from here. we are always fair and balanced. we hope you have a great weekend.ererererererererererere. >> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." brett kavanaugh has sworn in to the new position on the supreme court. but the left has one arrow left in the quiver. one way they think they can stop him from serving on the court. we'll tell you what it is later in the show. joined by the liberal who is going to try to explain it. it is unbelievable. we are not overstating it. first, kanye west spoke at the white house and drew news coverage for what he said. commentators were not impress and many dismissed it as a

side show. in some ways they were right. he made a number of interesting points but in the end he is an entertainer. donald trump was there, too. he is the president of the united states, the most powerful man in the world. like the rest of us ultimately he is passing through. there will be other presidents. the question to care about is bigger than two people. is america still a free country? can people openly express beliefs in public? are they still allowed to say what they think is true without being punished for it? that is what matters most and matters more than any single politician or rapper or midterm election. by that standard the one that matters what happened yesterday at the white house tells us a lot about america right now. much of it ominous. if you missed it, here is part of what kanye west said. >> people expect if you are black you have to be democrat.

i have conversations that welfare is why black people are democrats. first, limit to the amount of jobs. so the fathers lose job and we will give you more for having more kids in your home. >> tucker: to sum up, kanye west says that the liberal social programs undermune the black family. he notes that the african-americans face enormous pressure not to support republicans. he suggested that the democratic party often displays undisguised contempt for men and masculinity. if you think about it,ite knows especially controversial statements. they are obviously true for one thing. if you pay any attention at all you already know that. what west said is hard to rebut factually that nobody tried to do that. instead they attacked him as a person. attacked his decency and his mental condition. if that sounds familiar, it's because this is now a universal tactic on the left.

they don't want to argue with you. they want to denounce you. watch this cnn deep critique of trump's domestic program. >> why doesn't president trump condemn racism? his own words and action tell you why. he is racist. let me not mince words. this president traffics in racist. roseann's tweet was racist but he failed to condemn it. why? he can't. his own words and actions are racist, too. we have to stop pretending that the president has nothing to do with it, that he is not emboldening racists and racism. >> tucker: the best thing about the argument is you don't have to learn anything. master any details because facts are irrelevant. what you are saying is my opponents are bad people. you must ignore them. so it wasn't obvious how the left was going to pull any of this all with kanye west.

they attacked him as crazy at first but it didn't make sense. if you think that kanye west is mentally hill why are you attacking him for that? you can't call him race u.s. because he is black -- racist because he is black. but then they crack the code. you must ignore kanye west, he explains to the rest of us because he is a traitor to his race. watch this. >> what i saw was a mental show today. him in front of the white people, mostly white people embarrassing himself. embarrassing americans but mostly african-americans. now all of a sudden he is the person who represents the african-american community? he doesn't. this was an embarrassment. his mother is rolling over in her grave. >> tucker: there you go. that his skin color means he is required to behave in a very specific way. if he chooses to behave in any other way he should be punished. because according to don

lemon, his race is his destiny and it defines everything about him. people used to talk like this 50 years ago as they defended racial segregation of the american south. what a surprise to learn they are still talking that way. this time it's on cnn. michael eric dieson went even further. for the crime of being friendly with a politician he doesn't like, he says kanye west is actually despite all appearances a practicing why why -- white supremacist. >> we should say kanye as african-american people cannot stand idly by why you give cover to a man who is a white supremacist. this is white supremacist by ventriloquism. white racist ideals flowing from kanye west's mouth. >> tucker: keep in mind they are calling west the crazy one. they don't mean it. they wouldn't be so angry if they did mean it.

the real fear is that west isn't crazy at a and you might listen to him. this is not about west or trump. this is about power. most things are. suddenly a small number of the ideological gatekeepers control what everybody else in this country is allowed to say and think. the people work at google, cnn, in the u.s. senate and maybe down the hall from the office. in the corporate sensitivity department. they are enjoying the power they have because people always enjoy having power. but they are worried. they can know they can only maintain the system, the one they benefit from through fear and lying. if enough people to decide to ignore the rules and think for themselves this is over. they have no more power. whole country of people saying what they think is true. that is the nightmare and what they fear the most. i could start with a single person. wrapper speaking stream of consciousness in the oval office one afternoon. from there, who knows where it could go? other people could stop hiding

the unapproved opinions. this is a terrifying prospect. free speech is like a virus. better to stop it while you can. don lemon is no genius but he understands that. murdoch is a contributing editor at national review online and joins us tonight. what are they really saying about kanye west? >> a couple of things. unlike back in the 1960s in civil rights movement you may recall a number of protesters holding up the signs saying, "i am a man." he is not able to say that. he says i am not a man, i am not allowed to think on my own. i must do what the local orthodoxy says. so he didn't do that so they are denounced him as a negro. this is extraordinary. you come on every night and people say you are wrong but nobody says you are a bad

white person. >> tucker: right. >> they disagree with your views but they they heart attack aim as a human being and try to remove his blackness from him. it's disgusting. >> tucker: they are not even treating him as a human. they are treating him as interchangeable piece of a larger whole. like a faceness drone who has to obey. >> he has fallen out of line. they can't have that. the fear is people listen and ask questions isn't it interesting to have a president that brought black unemployment to lowest level of history. growing twice where it was two years ago. suddenly the black folks think maybe he is working out and the policies aren't racist attack we heard about they might to vote that way. democrats will be in bug trouble. it -- will be in big trouble. so it is important to dehumanize him which is what the left is doing tonight. >> tucker: have you seen

this? am i misremembering? i don't remember people terms that are ugly and i'm not going to repeat them. people didn't used to talk like that in television until recently. >> not so much. not to this level. uniformly and consistently across any number of the cable channels, the various people coming out. the professor dyson from my alma mater saying the things that he is that kanye is a white prem supremacist and ventriloquist and trump is pulling his strings. if trump were a white supremacist why would we have one of the biggest black artists in the oval office? it makes no sense. it's not logical. this shows the tremendous desperation of which the democratic left find itself today. >> tucker: it's interesting the level of bullying that goes on. if they thought he was crazy,

they are saying he is crazy and it's okay now to mock people's mental illness. but if they thought he was out of his mind they would smile indulgently like you do with the guy eating imaginary insects on the bus. right? >> right. he talked about job creation and improving the economy and the crime disaster in chicago. he talked about the montessori schools. he had solid things to say in there. he made a point where is it written if you are black you have to be a democrat? he is breaking away from the notion. if enough blacks break away from that notion the democrats will be in bad state because blacks are a large part of the democratic base. if eight out of ten black folks stayed democrat and two out of ten vote republicans the democrats would be like the whig pardon and they would be gone.

>> tucker: you have opinions and i certainly have them on full display. wouldn't your conscience ache a little if you found yourself night after night repeating nastiest talking point on behalf of a political party and pretending you were a journalist. would you do that? >> i present opinions and i try to back them up with the facts and the figures and the quotes and evidence. these people are not doing that. they scream trump is a racist. a racist, a racist. where is the proof? if he were racist why did he campaign in historically black colleges and universities and welcome them with an office in the white house to assist them? he made m.l.k. birthplace national historical monument. obama could have done that. but president trump did that. it's not behavior to see out of a white supremacist.

>> tucker: they are saying what they think they have to. this is remarkable the hacks they are. >> and cruel. >> tucker: i'm agree. i don't know anything about kanye west but it's mean. too mean. even for me. i'm a talk show host. >> very mean. >> tucker: great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: more on the left campaign to silence public dissent a campaign you should pay close attention to because at some point it will be aimed at you. that is after the bre when i was shopping for car insurance, the choice was easy. i switched to geico and saved hundreds. excuse me... winner! that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. hi! geico has licensed agents who i can reach 24/7. great savings and round the clock service? now that's a win-win. winner. winner. yay me! oh, hi! good luck. switch to geico®. it's a win-win.

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black person through the concept of racism because they know we are proud emotional people. to say i like trump and someone liberal they will say he's racist. you think a racist could control me? that don't stop me. that is an invisible wall. >> tucker: i'm sorry. we should have put up a warning under the video you saw. he is crazy. mentally ill. shouldn't be allowed in public and he is a sprite -- white supremacist. so pay no attention. chris haun is attorney, radio show host and stamper to senator schumer. he joins us. it's great to see you. >> did it look like it was led by a white supremacist to you? >> no. i'm a fan of kanye west. i don't think he looked extra fly in the spot. he did hit on a couple of points i agree with when he talked about stop and frisk. sake the again off the hat

because that is kind of the race baiting that a lot of people see. >> tucker: race baiting? why race baiting? i will let it pass. it's so dumb -- >> people didn't like the black president and make america great again -- >> tucker: i don't think it's about obama being black. but i don't want to debate that. i like your posture. so let me throw a compliment and say i'm not here to defend kanye but here to defend free ideas and stop the lying. everyone lies all the time. it's driving me insane. why do you think there has been -- we are not making this up. you saw videos that we played the effort to destroy the guy as a man. because he is saying things that are unhelpful party. do you want to live in a country where people do that? >> i don't think there has is an effort to destroy him as a man by the democrats across the country. some people were offended by

it. i watched the dyson interview. you picked out harsh parts but he was kind to kanye and the genius over the years. >> tucker: he said he was a ventriloquist for white supremacists. that is awful thing to say. >> there is nothing that trump wants more than to stand next a celebrity. but a celebrity stands with trump and the right goes crazy. a liberal artist makes a statement they say shut up and act or sing. that is what i thing here. >> tucker: you are make -- hold on. making a semi fair point. there is an impulse to dismiss people. i participated in it. every time i dismiss someone out of hand i regret it. assess the substance of what they are saying. i read a crypt that put the caveat, he is an entertainer, not policy expert.

but what i care about underneath the partisan nonsense this is a free country i was born into and this is becoming less free because the left does not acknowledge another side to the debate. they are trying to squelch speech in the h.r. department and the big tech people and they rutter people two disagree -- they are putting people who disagree with them. as an old fashioned liberal you should say you are allowed to say what you think. >> you are. and that includes protesters showing up to protest a senate vote or the president calls angry mob. >> tucker: they are an angry mob. >> and they can't exchange ideas. if they had ideas to campaign on they would haven't to scare the con stitch wents. >> tucker: really? i'm not here to defend republican congress. >> good. >> tucker: which ignored the express will of the voters in 2016 and said we want a border wall. we have people here illegally, and should do something about it but they ignored that.

i don't want to get sucked into a debate to defend something i don't believe in. but it's not honfest you claim you don't know what i'm talking about. people are being fire and savaged personally for disagreeing with the liberal orthodoxy on the social issues. >> well -- >> tucker: you don't know what i'm talking about? >> people are being fire and removed for reasons other than that. they are in a work place to hurt people and -- >> tucker: oh, hurting people. so you are conflating speech with violence. or there is an actual violence, like they are shot at baseball practice and ted cruz is pushed at a -- >> we all condemn that. i condemn that. i condemn people attacked out to eat with the families. >> tucker: good. bless you. >> but i don't call it an angry mob people showing up at congress to protest which is what the president, which mitch mcconnell and the republicans across the

country -- >> tucker: it is an angry mob. you have people screaming. >> just like kanye has a right to go to the white house to say whatever he wants there is a right for people to protest. >> tucker: hold on. >> not demonizing people doing it. >> tucker: it is a little much to take a lecture about freedom of speech or assembly under attack by the left and i defend it every night. final question. you have heard from don lemon and the preach every guy dyson who lives in my neighborhood i think, a rich white neighborhood, mr. man of the people. he has an obligation, kanye west, to take a position because he is black. do you think that is true? black people should be required to vote democrat? that is the position of your party. >> it's been a long time since kanye has had to split the buffet at k.f.c. with anybody. it's not a black-white thing. this is a class fing for kanye and he is making make -- this ia

class thing and kaye is making money off the class debate. >> tucker: i'm not sure when he ate at k.f.c. but i'm saying that they are saying that kanye as a black man is betraying black people being nice to trump. is that true? >> i don't want to speak to african-americans across the country. i think he is wrong and misguided -- >> tucker: what? are you allowed as a black person to think differently from dyson? >> i think the president stood up and said -- >> tucker: not going to answer. >> five people on both sides of white supremacist march not supported by people who care about the race relations. >> tucker: i care about the race relations so i am not spewing the racism on my show. >> room for you. come over. >> tucker: last place i'd go. thank you, chris. across the country the left is relying on the groups of the angry screaming people. mobs. to push the agenda and

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scream progressives a fact of life now across the country and certainly in washington, the leaders of the left are causing this. egging on the followers. from the restaurants and the steps to the supreme court, the followers are responding. >> anybody from that cabinet, you get out! >> they go low, we kick them. >> [chanting] >> we believe survivors. we believe survivors!! [chanting] >> tucker: this has been going on for months now. leaders and the democratic parties have said nothing about it so it is getting worse. headquarters of the manhattan republican party was vandalized on the upper east side after a week of getting harassing phone calls. the left continues to project it that the right is fetishizing violence.

howard dean who once ran for president wrote this. trump seems to like people two murder his opposition. i bet he would like to do the same." dan bongino, former secret service officer and he joins us tonight. dan, this does seem like projection here. so as the left gets more violent they become more convinced that it is the right getting violent. >> yeah. you have don't believe for a second. i don't want to speak for you but i don't think you do either that the left believes the right is violent. i say that because they have had a fabricate stories to make the right appear violent. remember the famous episode up on the hill in obamacare where a number of congressmen alleged racial slurs were hauled at them and they were spat on. yet, multiple people said listen, we will give you $10,000 if you produce scintilla of video evidence that it happened. they didn't. we had the famous sarah palin

bull's eye pictogram used repeatedly throughout history and that is an indicator of violence. they are making this up. i see two real problems. the left needs state powers. they are takers of the money, liberty and healthcare. they need state power to do that. if they lose it this is extinction burst of behavior for them to use a psychological term. the real problem that you have been highlighting recently, the media on the left, the normalization of the chaos is deeply disturring and an effort to cover -- disturbing and effort to cover for democratic party. >> tucker: i agree. we got late this afternoon video. an amazing exchange. so on capitol hill you know this is now common for people to show up and start screaming at the lawmakers. the republicans. senator bill cassidy of louisiana walking down the hallway this afternoon -- i think this afternoon -- had this exchange. put it up for viewers to see

it. >> senator cassidy, can you please apoll jaze to my children for -- apologize to our children for ruining their future? >> the parents are using them as tools. so in the future if someone makes an allegation against you and there is no proof for it, you will be okay. thank you. >> tucker: look, you don't know bill cassy but i'm impressed but the comments and the clarity. is that the answer to screaming mobs? calmness and clarity? >> yeah. it always is. i don't think it's a big mystery. i can get feisty sometimes, my queens personality comes out. but there is a reason this works. when i ran for office in maryland you -- i will never forget this. the irrationals have already committed you are an evil person.

you are speaking to the third party listening. the social media ecosystem. they say that lady cared so much about her children why did she chase bill cassidy down the hall and leaves them there? who brings the children to capitol hill to confront a senator? i am big for free speech and protest. what do your kids know about the supreme court policy or the confirmation process? it's absurd. >> tucker: no normal parent would do that. to use the children as political props is disgusting. i don't think any normal parent would do that. it's bizarre. >> i wouldn't do it either. >> tucker: i don't even talk politics with my adult children. please. thank you, dan. >> you got it. >> the russia investigation has been out of the headlines for a while but it grounds on. joined by jonathan turley who says it could be time for rod

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>> tucker: fascinating fox news alert for you. hillary clinton's security clearance has been revoked. this occurred in august and we only learned a short time ago from the senate judiciary committee that got the information from the state department. according to the committee, clinton sur rendered her security -- sur rendered her security clearance. we are trying to find out why. five of her aides lost clearances and so why did hillary clinton and her five aides have the security clearances a year after the election? more than a year. we don't know. we'll continue to follow the story and maybe we will find out. well, the russia investigation, the one going on since fire and the wheel were invented gone to background of politics. it doesn't mean it's over.

fusion g.p.s. owner says he is going to plead the fifth to avoid testifying before the senate committee. and professor turley says it is time for rod rosenstein to recuse himself. and the professor joins us to explain why. thank you for coming on. >> thanks. >> tucker: why should e recuse himself? >> he should have recused himself 14 months ago. he was a critical player in the whole series of the events. leading up to comey's firing and following it. he came in basically after the decision apparently was made to fire comey. if you believe some of the narratives put out there. he was critical to that. memo cited by president trump as a reason for firing comey. >> tucker: right. >> then apparently he became upset and had a confrontation with the white house. they walked it back. but he was part of the discussion that followed that firing if not preceded it. so to make the matters worse,

new reports indicate that this issue was raised last year by high ranking officials including former acting f.b.i. director andrew mccabe who asked why haven't you recused yourself? this is raised inside the justice department. people like myself raise it outside the justice department and he didn't do so. >> tucker: you make a good point but what is striking is the attorney general himself recused himself. he was on our show that night. he did so because the permanent staff at the d.o.j. told him he had to because he had a conflict that seems less profound. >> rosenstein has a direct conflict. overseeing individual investigating obstruction claim that he is a critical witness to, if not a key witness. that person has to report to him. not only that, he determines how broad this investigation will be. if there is a serious of investigation of obstruction, rosenstein is well outside the

navigational beacon -- the ethical navigational beacon. >> tucker: i love it. >> there is one other possibility. that mueller decided early on that this is not a serious allegation of obstruction. something some of us reached that conclusion earlier. that doesn't fit well with the criminal code. if that is the case, he may have told rosenstein this is not an issue. conflict won't be a problem because we think this might be a dry well. either way frankly this is not someone who should be reporting to rosenstein. >> tucker: so we have got a minute left in the segment. i want to reserve the time for the informed speculation if we could. when with regoing to see the fruits of this independent counsel investigation? >> it's telling that mueller is asking about collusion, not obstruction. so if that is the case, if he is drilling down on collusion there may not be a lot left to

do. but at the end of the day you have to wonder what all of the time spent for. we have to look at the report. most of the criminal charges are about the false statements to the f.b.i. or totally unrelated crimes. so mueller will have the accounting himself to why we pursued this for so long. if there was so little there. >> tucker: the accounting will take place in court of public opinions because he is above all over authority, right? >> i hope the report will be made public. >> tucker: i hope so soon. soon! it's always great to see you. brett kavanaugh, he is on the supreme court. the left has a plan to stop him from continuing the work as a justice. it's unbelievable plan. so much only kathy i'm going to start with some balayage clip-ins, then razor cut up to a blunt angled lob. i'm retiring; you're my swan song.

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hexing. this is the latest tool in the progressive toolbox for positive social change? >> the latest tool is going back, going backwards to witchcraft. we are going all the way back in our society to the days of hexing and witchcraft. yep. spells and motions and santaria. >> tucker: that is not to surprising the party that conducts witch hunts would also conduct witchcraft, right? >> well, a group actually in brooklyn. i have the information. it's going to be next week. october 20 in case any of your viewers wanted to go. it's going to be from 7:00 to 10:00 p.m. everyone is welcome. hope to the public. if you don't have the $10, you are still welcome to go. so they are hoping people that come to the hexing will then become activist and march and go to d.c. and have the voices heard.

steppingstone. >> tucker: certainly is. steppingstone to dark stuff. isn't it unfair, though, i mean if you want to change the public's mind on a question shouldn't you make your case? is it fair to engage if witchcraft against them? >> it seems that they have this trump anxiety disorder that we talk so much about that people are really kind of losing their minds as the kavanaugh confirmation cause people now to resort to witchcraft. i think they truly believe, this group truly believes this will work. this is against rapists also in the united states. not just kavanaugh. it's against men who they consider rapists. they have had three hexes against trump. they feel they were successful. they feel that the presidency isn't going as well. so they are hoping -- >> tucker: isn't -- doesn't that say something? we used to laugh at less

developed nation where witches were kill and human sacrifice took place and cannibalism. what does it tell you in heart of brooklyn, hipster h.q., people do what they do in the most primitive places in the world? >> i hope its a ak run type of thing and for awareness and that it is so extreme they are doing it as a sign of just awareness and getting the thoughts out there to let it be known they don't support kavanaugh. i can't imagine they believe this hex will work. perhaps some of them do believe in it. >> tucker: serious question. i'm hardly a theologian or an expert. but what if it's true that not everything that is real we can see and there are spiritual forces and you sit around with other dumb people summoning up dark forces? would you want to be in the same room as that or

participate like that? >> if it's like-minded people. if i'm with the like-minded people and they truly do not agree with kavanaugh being on the supreme court and yeah, i want to summon dark forces then i can go to an event. it's america. there is an event for everyone. here it is. >> tucker: why wouldn't a hex be an act of violence against somebody? >> i don't know if it necessarily works. it's a hex. i don't think they are necessarily going to send something hurtful to him. it's not hurtful. it's a peaceful gathering from what i understand. >> tucker: a peaceful hex. >> it's a peaceful hex. it has bad intentions. but they are like minded people cause nothing one harm. >> tucker: causing no one harm. >> wishing harm but causing no harm. >> tucker: just hexing. turning people to zombies or

summoning satan to work his dark magic on people. are you going? >> i don't think i am going but if your viewers want to go we shared the information. >> tucker: it's the creepiest thing i have ever heard. what if this is real? you want to be around it? i would run the other way. >> it's against rapists. if it's against bad guys and real, then it's a good thing. against kavanaugh nothing was proven against him. so i hope it's not real. >> tucker: kathy, thank you. for the tour. really. of the dankest recesses of the progressive america. americans, by the way, all of them of all political party seem to be hopelessly addicted to the iphone, stablet, social media, and technology. how do we break free from all of that? all of us know it's bad for us and for our children. our guest began the process to get rid of all of us and she will join us next. we can blame america's

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than it ever last has been to get away from work. also creating new bad habits. more and more people addicted to texting and social media and other the trappings ever modern digital existence. what is it doing to us as people? jedediah bill la former co-host of "the view." she has written a brand new book do not disturb how i ghosted my cell phone to take back my life making her a folk hero to many of us. she joins us tonight. jedediah you dream about what the rest of us dream about which is return to a state of clear thinking a smart phone at your side. >> i'm on my way back to sanity. it's unbelievable. >> tucker: tell us what happened. >> this was my personal responsibility manifesto for the tech age. and basically i found that i was completely addicted to my devices. i had what i coin as octd which is obsessive compulsive tech disorder. i went from someone who loved conversations face to face who was engaged in real life moments to someone who was always staring down at a

cell phone, ipad, social media. i started to realize it was affecting my sleep. it was making me more anxious and i wanted to find out why is this happening? what is it doing to our kids? if you are a parent and you are concerned that your kids don't play outside enough or they are at a family event or holiday and you can't pull them away from your phone, you need to get this book because these companies in silicon valley are programming these devices to get us addicted. they are hoping that we follow a compulsion loop and stuffedying behavioral psychology and behavioral science to get us addicted. and this is my call to arms for people who care about personal responsibility. just because something is designed to get you addicted does not mean you have to follow suit. you are still -- i follow a we the people philosophy. you are still able to decide what role you want these things to play in your life. that's what i did. i didn't throw away my phone or social media. the way i'm using these things doesn't make me feel good. it's not bringing out the best in me so i'm going to

modify it and change the way i use them to make it a healthier means for myself and my life. i believe everything you are saying. having gotten okay camel for years i know it's hard to stop something you are addicted. to say i can imagine what the upside was. what was the down side of it. >> initially i felt very anxious, especially being in this business. this is a business where you are rewarded for being plugged in all the time. i had people telling me oh, you know, you are not going to be plugged in enough. you are going to become irrelevant all that sorts of stuff. plus the feeling of anxiety that came over me. you would be surprised that phone, that ipad becomes a security blanket for you. and feel like that's how i'm connected to everyone all the time. my family, my friends. my e-mails, my work is my work going to suffer because anyone with any job out there now no longer has the end of a work day because your work day goes all day. so initially it was the

anxiety of am i doing something wrong? am i hurting myself, my career? am i hurting my relationship with friends? then ultimately, i had to sit with that and i had to do it, tucker, step-by-step. i couldn't just ghost my phone one day i'm unplugged that's the end of it. we are all human beings. i had to take little stepping. first thing did i was take the phone out of the bedroom. when i decide it's time for rester sleep i leave my phone in the charge docking station. that was the best way for me to get my sleep back. now when i get up and go on a bathroom break i'm not sitting and wait a minute one email and see what's happening on twitter. especially during times like what's going on with kavanaugh and hearings, you were plugged in so much that the temptation would be you know what? if i have this troll saying something to me on social media. let me answer them at 3:00 in the morning. that's not good for me. i decided i'm going to take these little steps and i'm going to make my life better and i give prescriptions for what people can do.

turn your notifications off on your phone. that doesn't mean you can't go and look at twitter and can't go and look at email. you are not constant being beckoned to those places with a buzzing cell phone. it's very different. you own your life if you make those changes. >> tucker: jedediah billla, you are inspiring to all of us. having known you a long time there is a calmness and joy radiating to you that i adistrict to you ghosting your phone so congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: put down your phone and li your life while the people around them. listen to them. breathe deeply. advice we should all take. thanks for a great week. we will be back monday, 8:00 p.m. the show that the is lyin [national anthem] ♪

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