how it can be a destructive place. but i enjoy the back and forth. we'll see you next week at 11:00 a.m. with the latest buzz. [♪] eric: tensions escalating between the u.s. and saudi arabia over the disappearance and suspected murder of "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi. the kingdom threatening to retaliate against any sanctions as the saudi stock market takers the deepest plunge in years. arthel: the statement comes after president trump warned of quote severe punishment if it turns out saudi arain a murdered khashoggi inside its consulate in turkey. president trump: right now

turkey is very deep into it. we are in constant communications. and frankly other countries are looking at it, too. arthel: we are live in washington with the latest. reporter: president trump admitted saudi arabia could be to blame for the disappearance and alleged murder of jamal khashoggi. but he said so far the saudis deny responsibility. he says if an investigation proves their guilt, said that the administration would take action. but takes sanctioning the royal family off the table. he cited a multi-billion arms deal and made it clear it's his intention to protect u.s.

profits. so far saudi arabia maintained 0 hard line on this issue. deny, deny, deny, but without providing substantiating evidence. but yesterday they echoed president trump's reasoning about the global economy. the kingdom will respond with greater action. the kingdom's economy is affected only by the impact of the global economy. over on capitol hill, condemnation of the saudi regime has been swift and bipartisan. >> just because they are an ally and important mission which is containing iranian expansion in the region, cannot allow us to walk away or look away from that. it under mines our ability to stand for morality. >> we cannot have an ally who murdered in cold blood in their

own consulate. gillian: as the investigation moves forward, the trump administration confirms treasury secretary mnuchin will not pull out of planned travel to riyadh later this month. arthel: for more on this now we'll bring in the former foreign policy advisor on the obama campaign, a former state department official under the bush administration and international attorney. good to have you with us, david. if i may, let me start with a bundle of questions. did the saudis just up the ante? are they calling president trump's bluff and did the u.s.-saudi relationship just get more complicated? and what does that relationship mean for the stability in the region? >> it's definitely become more complicated. there is growing evidence saudi

arabia is responsible for the murder of this journalist. we need to make sure evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are responsible, then we have to take action. saudi arabia has been provocative and it denied and is now threatening sanctions. saudi arabia is an important ally. but saudi arabia needs us more than we need them. so we have to have a response if saudi arabia is responsible for this killing it has to be a targeted response. it should be targeted at the people responsible. they are in the royal family, the sanctions have to target those people. they have to be clear the people responsible will not do this again. if they do the u.s. will take further measures to prevent this type of human rights violation that we have to stand against everywhere around the world. arthel: what kind of punishment are we talking about?

president trump telling leslie stahl at 60 minutes that there will be severe punishment if it's proven that the saudis are responsible for the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. how much time does president trump have to get to the bottom of what actually happened? >> we have to have a re0 response quickly. but we have to make sure we have strong evidence and be sure saudi arabia is responsible before we do anything. the type of punishment, president trump has not made that clear. he doesn't have to say what he plans to do. but if there are sanctions it needs to be targeted to those responsible. 22 senators have written a letter pushing for a response to this action. those senators have the ability to trigger sanctions and an investigation. there is the lehy law that the

u.s. cannot provide military support for a nation responsible for human rights violations like this. arthel: the world is watching. how soon does the * have to come out and say this is what happened and this is what we are going to do about it? >> this issue is top of mind for people around the world. in particular leaders in the middle east are watching to see what the u.s. does. we have to do it before they forget about this incident. i think we have to do it within the next couple weeks. there are other leaders in the middle east who are also supporting actions like this, and we have to send a blessage to all of them -- send a message to all of them. president trump isn't always strong about protecting the press. but he said the right thing in response to the apparent killing of this journalist. arthel: president trump says he doesn't want to cancel arms sale

to the saudi arabia. how much emphasis should be placed on that transaction under the apparent murder of jamal khashoggi. >> the relationship with saudi arabia remains very important. but we have to work with the right people in saudi arabia. king salman is still the leader of saudi arabia and apparently the people responsible for this are the people below him. we have to court the king to do the right thing. if necessary he needs to rein in the people under him who are responsible for this provocation they will were should the president and his son-in-law recalculate their relationship with bin salman? >> i think they have to. if evidence shows the saudi crown prince is responsible, they have to recalculate that and wonder whether their close relationship made him think he

could do something like this. that the u.s. wouldn't take a response against saudi arabia. that was the wrong calculation by him if that is what he was thinking. arthel: the treasury secretary steven mnuchin will be attending the conference later this month in saudi arabia. should this trip still happen. >> it's a conference called davos in the desert. it's something the crown prince has taken to move saudi arabia forward. there has been some liberalization in saudi arabia we should applaud. it's not my role to say whether the treasury secretary should attend that. certainly the president should not attend. and whether the secretary of treasury attend or not attend, he should be delivering a message while there that the u.s. stands against violence

against' reports such as apparently happened in this case. arthel: president trump is planning to get on the phone with king salman within the next few hours. what should he say and how forceful should he be in terms of getting and answer. >> he has to be very forceful with king ca -- with king salma. he has to deny king salman make changes within his government to insure it never happens again and demanding those under him are not threatening retaliatory action against the u.s. when the u.s. is taking the right course in determining what happened, but making sure there is punishment for those responsible for this. that should and forceful, strong conversation trump hasn't yet had with the king so far since he has been president. arthel: thank you very much.

eric? eric: back at home, president trump blaming the federal research's interest rate hike tore sending the market through a tailspin. despite that sell-off the president continues to tout the strong economy. >> our country's unemployment rate has just fallen to 3.7%, the lowest in over 50 years. 50 years. median household income has reached an all-time high. that's pretty good. eric: ellison bear has more from washington. reporter: the president's top economic advisor is down playing the recent stock market drop. stocks dropped fast remind some

of 2008 and leaving others to wonder if they were witnessing the start of a global economic slowdown. they are not according to white house economic advisor larry kudlow. >> these kind of corrections are absolutely normal. this one so far actually is rather moderate, i think it's about 5%, 6%. we are still ahead year to date in the main indexes by 4 or 5 percent. people should stay calm over these things, it's quite normal. reporter: the president criticized the federal reserve saying the fed is going wild in raising interest rates. trump's advisors are defending the presidential attack on the fed. >> the president as a successful

businessman and investor knows a lot about these topics and he's giving his opinion. he's concerned that the fed might move too quickly and might choke off the economic recovery which is now running 3 to 4 percent. he's not impinging on fed independence. president trump previously said the economy would lead republicans to victory come november. unemployment is the lowest it's been since the 1960s. democrats are pushing back by questioning how it started. >> the longest job creation on record.

we had health insurance. reporter: as for the fed, they are expected to raise rates in november. the last time they raised rates the fed said it was because the labor market and the economy are doing so well. eric: ellison, thank you. arthel: the death toll from hurricane michael is expected to keep rising. right now the number stand at 19 people. the search for survivors is ongoing and teams have checked 25,000 homes. florida senator marco rubio says there is a long way to go after one of the most of powerful storms to hit the u.s. mainland. >> this is what disasters look like.

it's so difficult and we ask people to evacuate and have extra food. i think everyone is doing the best they can. they don't have phones, the road are blocked. they might live off a dirt road. i think that's where the dire need is also there. arthel: phil keating is in mexico beach. i understand the fema director and florida governor were there a few hours ago. reporter: both men looking at this as a prime example of what 9-14 feet of storm surge does. when 150-mile-per-hour wind ripped things to shred. but everything on the ground as far as you can see is scattered in pieces and rubble throughout the neighborhood. there were two homes that sat closest to the beach. after the hurricane, they are way over there about 300 yard inland behind that little red roof of that collapsed building

there. governor rick shot came to seat worst of the worst of hurricane michael. he reasecured them the state and the fed are doing everything possible to get water and power and cell service back. >> the big thing is i want people -- to make surer learns from this. when somebody says there is going to be 9-14 feet of storm surge, it's deadly. reporter: a total wasteland stretches for miles. one resident is trying to salvage anything he can. and mark the property so his ibs adjustor can find where it used to be. >> the whole town is gone.

i have seen other tornado and disasters. but this one is pretty big. reporter: search and rescue operations will continue again today. we want to go through everyone one or two times to make sure there are no survivors trapped under the wreckage and still alive. and they want to confirm fatalities. there is more than a million americans from florida to virginia who lost power and electricity at the house. today that's down to 400,000 with no juice. arthel: that's some good news. just watching your pictures. it's devastating for us. i can't even imagine how it is for those home eveners. reporter: it's heartbreaking. eric: deputy attorney general rod rosen type io -- rod rosenss

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and i get to do that. i get to provide that for them. arthel: south of the border, hundreds of hondurans, including young children reportedly heading to the u.s. in a mass immigration march. this as the trump administration called on central american countries to stop the flow of migrants. reporter: some reports there could be more than 1,000 hondurans head together u.s.-mexico bored in search of a better life. the number of migrants began growing. they agreed to leave together to make the travel north much safer. a recent study, the main reason

they want to leave, poor economics. the second most of cited cause was to flee the violence. the president praised i.c.e. for its efforts at a hall -- in a ry last night. >> they go in and liberate towns. these people came in by the thousands. the illegal alien criminals, predators, drug dealers, ms-13 killers, and we are sending them back home. we are liberating american cities and towns. that's what we are doing. reporter: the trump administration considering a new immigration policy that could lead to family separation once again at the bored. the plan this time would give migrant parents the chance to stay together or let the government take their child to a

shelter so other relatives or guardians can take custody. >> if they feel there will be separation they don't come. if they feel there will be separation, it's a terrible situation. we want to go through congress. but the democrats won't want to approve anything. reporter: what the trump administration is not considering is the forced separations that caused protests along the border earlier this year. eric: the house committee threatening to subpoena deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. they want info on the fisa warrant he signed to surveil carter page. john ratcliffe weighing in earlier today on "sunday morning

futures" with maria bartiromo. >> the head of the fbi andy mccabe and the head of the department of justice with respect to the justice department rod rosenstein in direct conflict with each other, accusing each other of not telling the truth as to whether someone wanted to record the president of the united states. the justice department cannot be expected to fairly investigate when the heads of those two components at the department of justice are in direct conflict. there should and special counsel so we can get answers to these questions. eric: jim, do you think there will be a special counsel? and do you think rosenstein will appear before congress if he's subpoenaed? >> there is a special counsel look into these questions about

obstruction of justice and russian interest force. there was a call for a second special counsel on hillary clinton and that hasn't been taken up. now there is a third call for a special counsel. but it might be useful. eric: why has there not be a special counsel on hillary clinton. >> that's a good question. there has been a lot of calls for it. the administration has the authority today foul for a special investigation. but the justice department hasn't done that. the president does have the ability to direct that to happen. even with jeff sessions recused on the russia investigation, there is nothing that stops him from ordering attorney general sessions to do that. eric: do you think that's something that should happen? >> it's hard to know. a lot of the talk has largely gone away.

there are questions of emails that remain open. at this point a lot of conversation has tamped down a bit. eric: we have a report that glenn symptom the founder of fusion gps helped put together that steele dossier. he may take the fifth. what does that indicate to you? >> every american has the right to take the fifth amendment if they think their testimony might incriminate themselves in a criminal proceeding. simpson seems to be taking that. obviously fusion gps's involvement in this matter with the steele dossier raises questions. his lawyers probably gave him the vials it's better to wait and not testify before congress. eric: the conflict between his testimony and bruce ohr's.

bruce ohr said they met before the election and symptom reporting he met him after the election. what does that say that he was meeting with him and feeding him information. >> the relationship between ohr and simpson and steele is a complicated one. and one that raises some questions. why was ohr involved in the investigation if he wasn't part of the investigation itself. there is no doubt there have been challenges with behavior in terms of specific individuals where that includes ohr or mccabe or lisa page or the like. but what is important is the overall investigation continues forward. it's been reauthorized repeatedly, parts of it include the carter page fisa, an appointee of this president.

while a lot are saying look, it's true, i don't see the kind of global problem that a lot of people alleged today. >> michael usman is a major lawyer in washington, d.c. he represented the democratic national committee and hillary clinton campaign. during the campaign reports say he met and funneled information to the fbi on the trump campaign. did he have a legitimate reason to think the russians infiltrated the opposition? was this the correct thing to do? was it wrong? how does it muck it up when you have clearly a political actor involved in the russian investigation. >> the problem is when you are investigating potential involvement of a foreign government in elections without a doubt you will get involved in the political campaigns. any time you are investigating a lawyer or their client and their

communications, you are investigating political candidates, whether a prior administration or a current one. you want to be sure that the fbi and the justice department are forth coming with the judges. the carter page scenario. we have portions of it declassified affidavit it's clear they did tell the government that the judge what they were doing and what their concerns are. i think the answer is yes. so we'll look into an important part of congressional oversight. good to see you, and of course this will continue. arthel: the iranian president takes on the trump administration. why hassan rouhani is down playing u.s. sanctions that target the country's oil and gas sector. the president is rallying republicans ahead of the mid

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eric: president trump rounded up republican support before the midterms. showing support for congressman andy barr has been a close race against democrat anyway craft neared the president touting the economy again saying he needs more republican lawmakers to keep it going. >> under republican leadership, america is booming. it is thriving. [cheers and applause] americana is whining again because we are finally putting america first. [cheers and applause] mitch and randomly all do it together. we have a great team. but we need more of them. we need more republican votes. eric: garrett tenney live at the

white house with more. reporter: president translating they will have a hard template onto the majority of house and the midterm elections but he isn't giving up on the house altogether. last night's rally, kentucky is an example of how the president is with tight house races particularly in red states where his presence could push republicans over the finish line. in kentucky's sixth district is one of the most-watched house races in the country. congressman andy barr running for his first term locked in a dead heat with amy mcgrath, retired marine fighter pilot. last i president trump captain is one that can either help or hurt his agenda, including on the issue of immigration. >> republicans believe our country should be a sanctuary for law-abiding americans, not criminal aliens. the only immigration policy democrats support his catch and release. we have the separate immigration laws in the world, they are

laughing at us. we are getting them changed. if you elect republicans this november, we will pass legislation to end catch and release. >> the house will be tough for republicans. the president and gop leaders are optimistic they could take up a seat or two in the senate. this next week the president is holding rallies in three states for some of the closest senate races in the country. montana, arizona and nevada where the races are tied or within just a few points. republicans currently hold two of the tightly contested seats in nevada and arizona. while they are confident about holding onto the senate at this point it is by no means a sure thing that there will be up to do that. eric: the clock is ticking. we will see. jamilarthel. arthel: abc news, "washington post" showing that 41% of americans approved job he's

doing is up 5% from august. 54% still disapprove. right now, democrats have an edge in the house for 53% of the voters say they will pick a democratic candidate. house majority leader kevin mccarthy seen this on "sunday morning futures." >> history is against us and we will beat history, why? let what was done with the economy. look at what we've done to be a reform in it, look at what we've done to combat opioids among the largest comprehensive bill you've ever seen more than $4 billion. human trafficking, modern-day slavery online. this is about results versus democrats resistance. arthel: white house correspondent for the "washtington examiner" robert donahue joins me now. the majority is not on board but why wouldn't the president's improved approval ratings push republicans over the finish line in the midterms and maintain a majority in the house?

>> to predictions that republicans lose the house are fairly accurate. are you some kind of large-scale event to rally his conservative and republican voters is a safe prediction. those pointing to the president's approval rating in terms of adobe negative don't really understand midterm electoral politics. this is in a general election. this is about pandering to my independent grandmother or freethinkers and over again. this is about getting out conservatives and republicans to vote and that's what the president is doing on the stage. if republicans want to maintain the majority in congress come and they need to talk about jobs come in the economy, appointment and confirmation of justice gorsuch and kavanaugh. one thing important to notice the president on weakness for the past weeks has gotten 5000 to 10,000 people out to watch him speak for an hour and a half. they waited in lines for hours. they stand around maybe for four hours just to see the man speak.

if that correlates to people getting out to the ballot box, which is what it looks like it could, then who knows about these predictions. maybe they change. eric: as you know, women are fired up to vote in the mid-terms and more women registered to vote support the democratic candidates by 59-37%. how to republican candidates campaign on president trumps strength while appealing to the majority of women voters. >> i think that's a tough question for republicans in general. the democratic strategist that i talked to on a regular basis had told me following the kavanaugh hearing and how it was perceived that republicans treated dr. ford, that might be something that they need to be concerned about. i also think if you talk about the economy, you are talking about things that people care about in america. that will give folks out to vote. in terms of women, i guess we'll have to wait and see.

arthel: meanwhile, the democrats, do they have a strong roadmap to take back the house and will they campaign on issues like health care and gender equality? >> guest: you just touched on the first one, which is health care and that's the immediate pivot from schumer and democrats right after the kavanaugh hearing. the thing for republicans and republicans watching right now running for office is health care is not an issue you want to touch. you try to repeal in the senate five times. you failed every time. you didn't have a replacement for it. you don't have an idea of what you have in terms of health care. but that is where democrats wanted to go. we will see. arthel: meanwhile, what are the repercussions of the democrats retake the house? >> a divided congress is not something bad for the nation. republicans will pick up maybe one or two seats on the senate. that will further give the president a little leeway in

terms of confirmation appointment from a different nominee is, maybe filling ambassador nikki haley's decision right after the next congress in terms of impeachment if democrats want to bring forth impeachment articles i've written a couple things that people want to check it out. it gives him a little more cushion there. but yeah, i think the president, there's not a candidate on the democratic side right now that could beat him in 2020 and he does have to worry that much. eric: we will leave it there. thank you very much. eric: arthel, calls for civility are getting louder after more violent clashes over political differences and vandalism in new york city. the chairwoman of the near counter republican party whose headquarters are ec was vandalized allegedly. she joins us next. ♪ ♪ motorcycle revving

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eric: well, it was billed as the law and order march in portland, oregon, but it's gotten to the latest political street violence. members of the extremist group antifog clashing with the right-wing group h. or a prayer after another my leg in york city. manhattan's exclusive the sidesteps her park avenue. the building was vandalized by the protesters. they were demonstrating against a prisoner controversial right-wing provocateur gavin mcginnis, founder of the so-called prague boys group who call themselves, western chauvinist. critics had blasted mcguiness says -- after his appearance three men were arrested for being a protester industry. social media claims the suspects are members of the prague boys. new york police are not confirming who they are. ed cox who happens to be a president son-in-law and condemning the incident.

>> this type of political violence is not acceptable in our democratic system. we are unique with other democracies in the free world that our differences are settled at the ballot box but not by violence. eric: how can we stop these cases political violence russian ark chairman of the new york republican party comic andrea new york republican party, andrea, great to see you. this is your headquarters. your office that was vandalized. >> it's scary what they did. they threw bricks at the windows, but cool in the locks can of and we've really never seen this sort of violence before. eric: the building has tremendous historical influence. laguardia, the best mayor of new york city, he announced and started his campaign there. teddy roosevelt was a member of the organization ran his campaign, too. and i guess, very historic domain. a long-standing part of the

community and not even an attack on the political party. it's also an attack on the neighborhood and we have to keep her neighborhood say first and foremost. eric: this is not what america's about. these protesters also had a note inside, our attacks on the beginning. we are not passive, not civil and we will not apologize. do you worry this type of violence we've been being. new york city is only increasing what do we do to try to stop it? >> i'm absolutely worry. the rhetoric from democratic leaders and stealing radicals for instance an eric holder said a veteran republicans go low, kick them. i don't think they should be saying we should take anyone and that is the language that incites the silencing causes people to throw bricks at her windows greatest political leaders who should be encouraging a civil discourse are not encouraging violence. eric: do you think republicans are at fault? >> people are always the fault on both sides, but this is the violence we are seeing now and i

think a lot of this language came this week, like for instance, do note that they left us, hillary clinton said the democrats shouldn't be civil towards republicans and that is what the note indicated. i think it is a direct result from the rhetoric we've heard this week. eric: republicans and democrats united in in condemning this. then they reach a statement from the city council member and assembly member. they say we are horrified by the language used in the violence occurred. this behavior is unacceptable in all forms. our political institutions have a responsibility to ensure we do not invite hate speech or incite violence in our humanity. we are deeply disappointed. with a long history of hate speech but no as a community we are much better than his words and actions. what would you say he shouldn't have been invited in the first place, he doesn't belong in a mainstream political organization clubhouse. >> i mean, america is a nation

built on freedom of speech and that sets us apart from everybody else. maybe if you don't agree your sunday is a radical, people should be able to speak their mind and there's a big difference between freedom of speech and committing violent acts of vandalism. eric: are you worried? >> i'm worried because protesters said this is only the beginning and now the democrats have come out and condemned their action and that's unsettling. people should get behind be more civil instead of encouraging violent acts. eric: governor cuomo has condemned it. he says he cannot and will not be celebrated in new york. he says new york is zero tolerance for your bs. the mayor of new york says hey it's never welcome in new york city. we will punish those responsible. so briefly, your message to anyone who wanted to incite any type of violent is? >> have a civil political discourse. don't incite any violence. violence is never the answer.

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arthel: iranian president hasan rouhani accusing the trump administration of trying to bring about regime change. rouhani also downplaying the effect of u.s. sanctions. très jinxed his life in our jerusalem bureau with more. reporter: good morning, arthel. hasan rouhani created tension between washington and tehran in every speech broadcast. he called the trump administration and the most spiteful american government towards iran in the past 40 years. responding to president trump's remarks in the u.n. general assembly last month were president trump called the current iranian regime a corrupt dictatorship and when rouhani spoke sunday told students the united states is seeking regime change in iran. the trump administration has denied the regime change is the ultimate goal, but that didn't stop the countries later there in tehran for laying out what he sees as a coordinated effort to reduce legitimacy of the regime in tehran. take a listen.

[speaking in native tongue] >> translator: the final goal, and they started with a political role, economic role, issue for the efficiency of the system is the field goal. reporter: the words by rouhani about u.s. warfare do come after the president decided to pull u.s. out of the iran nuclear deal earlier this year, increasing economic pressure. arthel: trey yingst, thank you very much. eric: that does that that does it for us at least for now. we will be back in three hours. trendy right now, more news from washington with leland vittert and eboni williams after the break.

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