festering ground for terrorism. >> neil: all right, senator rand paul thank you very much. just taking one last look at the corner of wall and broad up about 547 points. worries subsiding we will see what happens toll. "the five" is next. >> hello. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." elizabeth warren claims she's part native american appears to be backfireing the cherokee nation is rejecting the results laying claim to the cherokee nation or tribal nation is inappropriate and wrong. senator warren is undermining her interests with her claims. and another member is accusing

warren of playing politics. >> she has relied on stereotypes and popular misconceptions about native americans to prop up her false claims. i think her decision showed she does not listen to native people and is more concerned about her own political career and ambition than tribal sovereignty and rights. >> and stories have turned out to be a scam and a lie after he called on the senator to say sorry for previous claims. >> she owes the country an apology. her claim is not something i enjoy to do. >> the rest of the party looks to put this issue in the rearview mirror ahead of the midterms. >> she's put to rest his inappropriate suggestions using his nickname for her that

somehow she didn't know her own family history and it's best for everybody if we move on and understand it's another episode beneath the president. >> move on? not yet. jesse, you haven't had a chance to comment. >> jesse: as you remember i had my dna tested and i'm .9% black. i'm more black than she is indian and imagine if i all of a sudden started claiming i was black and listed as a minority and fox news listed me as a member of the african american association. this is what elizabeth warren did. she said she was a woman of color. she's white. she was claiming to be a minority. she said she was a cherokee in the cookbook she wrote. she said her parents were oppressed because her mother was cherokee and all of a sudden the

cherokee nation is like, no, you're not a member of tribe. sorry. it's coming unravelled and the people more excited about this than donald trump is joe sanders. she's cooked as a candidate and i watched it unfold yesterday because i had the sniffles an she came out and felt she scored at first and so did the media and they demanded donald trump payoff the million-dollar debt and now she's at war with the cherokee nation and the dna gamble may have backfired. remember the birth certificate with barack obama. imagine he gets it and it's not up to snuff. do you think he would have then put it out? she got the results and it's 1/1,000 and thought it would be a winning move and i'm astonish.

>> the mention of the birth certificate is timely because it's the same move and he forced -- he forces her to take the test and gets the guy to say you have some american indian ancestry and then won't pay her and then insults her by -- it's kind of a sexual suggestion i'm going to personally test you but i won't enjoy it. >> >> jesse: how do you do that? >> juan: it's so typical of trump. she was done what was asked. >> jesse: the won the bet? >> juan: all he said was if you have indian ancestry i'll give you $1 million. it doesn't matter. that's what he asked and what she did. the light the cherokee nation is saying you shouldn't have done

this is about tribal affiliation. it has nothing to do with the blood test. you're worried about affirmative action. >> jesse: why am i worried about that? >> dana: when it turns to ridicule you may have a political winner if you're going against elizabeth warren. look at the tweet from oran hatch. he makes fun of his age in his 80s and said dna are quite something and he has a t-rex. >> greg: very funny. it's mue hill iating. you don't -- you mill iating. you don't humiliating. this makes michael dukakis like tear down the wall. in my mind she's cooked. she has more in common with the

jeep than with the tribe and that's why they kicked her off the reservation. it was insulting to them that she for the second time was exploiting native americans for her own advancement. first in college and now this and they knew it and it disgusted them and trump doesn't owe her anything. if she's indian he didn't say part but if she's indian. if most americans have more native american blood than she does but this is before where identity politics takes you and when au ply for a job -- you apply for a job where diversity

trumps experience they should staple your dna test to your sat score and application and that will kill all of this. >> juan: let's get beyond the static and gossip. i think that's what we're talking about is the white identity -- i'm talking about donald trump preying on white woman. >> she benefitted. >> this is the ultimate cultural appropriation by elizabeth warren. it's so much worse and she benefitted off of it for 30 years by listing herself in these directories that said she was native american which were

used as head hunter portfolios for schools like harvard law to look at lists of people who were interested in getting more diversity into their law schools. >> juan: some of the schools may have said that -- >> it's a benefit to elizabeth warren. >> she did a video exploiting native americans. why did she seek out the stanford academic anyway instead of using a commercial product like we did on "the five"? she needed an ally. >> >> juan: the guy's an expert. >> is he an expert when he didn't even test the proper dna. >> greg: exactly. >> dana: last word to jesse and the timing is terrible. will anybody let this go?

>> jesse: democrats are complaining she didn't need to do this now three weeks before the midterm elections. are these people being paid by the rnc? it's that good for the president and his team. >> dana: stormy dan yells and her lawyer, michael avenetti come out and the monologue is next and join us for more behind the scenes action of "the five." we'll be right back. i know that every single time that i suit up, there is a chance that's the last time. 300 miles per hour, that's where i feel normal. i might be crazy but i'm not stupid.

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>> how bad is michael avenatti his lawyers are bad. a california judge dismissed stormy daniel's defamation suit and ordered her to play trump's legal fees. now when judges do that it's to send a message. your lawyer's a moron. poor stormy, as a rule people pay her for sex and now avenatti reversed it. he chased spot lights an when he catches them he looks ridiculous.

he's good at costing his own side money. his firm was order to pay $10 million to an attorney who once worked there and what about the kavanaugh debacle and many fled sensing they were becoming his victi victims too. why complain. she's bain disaster for the democrats. are we sure he wasn't on trump's payroll all along. now he's taken to challenging people to fight on twitter like a town poluca. how does the trickster get away with it? does the state bar care about ethics. isn't there a disciplinary committee or is he exempt because he's a liberal attack dog. his punishment should be harsh. make him represent himself. he's going to run, dana.

>> he is running. maybe this could be greet for him. maybe he doesn't care. >> he does provide a lot of fodder. i'm sure the democrats wish he would just go away or become a republican. >> he could run with liz. what a ticket. >> they can come up with other idea. i do wonder if avenatti will help stormy daniels pay the legal fees. >> her go fund me page which is flooded with money with people who hate trump will go to trump. >> trump always makes money. >> i think the democrats have hitched their ride to the wrong horse. he's taken the democrats for a ride and it won't be a victory lap. the president obviously said

she's a horseface or whatever on twitter and now anybody on the left is upset. i wouldn't say that but here's what i would say, the left has used the word "c" word to describe people in the trump family and everybody applauded that. they fantasized about killing the president and now they're clutching their pearls when the president says the word "horse face"? please, you're surprised donald trump says thing about people, either you haven't learned anything or your dense. this is what he does and how he wins. now regarding the other claim about the gang rape case, that being so false in and of itself makes me think maybe donald trump didn't have an affair with stormy daniels. >> i would say that stormy daniels have also said not so nice thing about president

trump's experience. there's things we will not repeat. avenatti 2020 will be lit as the kids say and i think he'll be upset he was involved. they think the reason they lost the kavanaugh fight is he got involved and putting stormy daniels in a position where he won't pay the legal bills for her and will find some other woman to jump into this trap of politics claiming he will represent her and it will be great, they're going to win and yet his track record shows the opposite. it's not for women getting involved, warning, you see him knocking on your door, tell him to go away. when it comes to complications for what he's done -- >> well, the kids say his campaign is lit? >> lit. like on fire.

it's going to be exciting to watch. >> i think dana and greg had it right. it will be fun for us. >> that's what i mean. >> to me the horse face stuff, by the way, come on. you say it's typical trump but carly fiorina and i think, man, at some point american women are like this guy's -- >> and something about important stars. >> i see. i think it's all woman in terms of his attitude. i think the real interesting thing here is how the right is making this out to be such a big win. total vindication for donald trump when this isn't the main case. the main case has to do with the non-disclosure agreement. this was about the unknown guy in the parking lot -- >> do you think people care about the non-disclosure? >> my point to you is this case

is not settled. >> here's the issue, this was the case they just won was probably the strongest one because to your point about the hush agreement she took the money. it will be hard for her to be proven to be right if she'd taken the money. >> she said in fact it wasn't properly signed and michael cohen who now -- i don't know where he stands -- this is where the conversation -- not only here but in america has gone. michael avenatti had a relationship? >> he's involved. >> he had his dna test and he's 25% reptile. i thought it'd be higher. >> it spark outrage with his vulgar attack on the first lady. details next.

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>> the left proved it's okay to shame women and t.i. is under fire for his music video depicting the first lady as a stripper in an apparent dig at kanye west meeting with president trump. the video's so vulgar we can't show it. in response a spokesperson for mrs. trump said she's the first lady and it's disrespectful. when you're calling someone a racist, don't be sexist.

>> i also think it's unpatriotic. melania trump has done nothing to do that. in africa she said she was probably the most bullied person in the world online. when you're bullied online you feel like you're the most bullied person. this takes it beyond the online piece. it goes to the pop culture. she just traveled to africa to help people there. she took books and the message that america is there to help you on health care and maternal health and did all the thing you'd expect a first lady to do to show you care about another country and with one in africa with so much poverty and comes home to this. they should pull it but everyone's making money out of this administration. from the right and the left and i really feel like first ladies should be off limits. >> i wanted michelle obama to

speak up as a former first lady. a powerful woman i expect her to come to melania's defense. >> i think you just laid down the gauntlet. now i want to watch it. we probably would have done better if we had ignored it but i'm surprised a rapper has denigrated women when i hear their songs and hear bs and hs i thought they were terms of endearment but it was a response to kanye. he talked about stop and frisk and enterprise zones with tax relief and instead he went after m m melania. >> he said he was using someone as a prop and he did the same thing with a woman, melania trump. >> what? >> he pictured her as a sexual object dancing for someone.

>> and donald trump did -- >> that's what t.i. was saying trump did to kanye west using him as a prop. >> i didn't get that analogy. i understand where he's saying i'm not kanye to the president and saying here's what i think of you but i don't know he was make direct analogy between -- >> he self-owned -- >> oh, okay. to your point about michelle obama, just this week we had this case where a woman running for the senate in minnesota said michelle obama can't stand up as straight as a chimp. you think of that kind of racist language or think about what happened around here we've called her baby mama and remember that kind of stuff -- >> around here? >> oh, yeah. and in the only that -- >> what are you talking about? >> i won't get into it because i don't think it's necessary but check the record and talk about

michelle obama's weight oh, how she be giving -- >> do you think the idea was wrong? >> i think this whole culture and the way we talk about thing is going down the pipe. >> well, you're skirting the main issue and it's t.i. >> i wonder when hip-hop is going to have their me-too movement. it would be a reckoning. t. >> has -- t.i. was given a platform and kanye was given a platform to talk about unemployment and leads to the school to prison pipeline they're talking about and instead of looking at his own record which includes serving 10 months in prison for violating parole and possession of drugs, felony weapons possession, instead of looking at his own life and saying how can i

improve the lives of those younger than i am, he's instead going after melania trump for a beef he has with kanye west by attacking her this way. it's disgust. he's not going to apologize. i don't expect him to but the level of respect not given to melania and given to other first ladies is astounding. where's the feminists? >> i don't understand why we have sunk to this level. that's why i get stuff for people going after it because i think a lot of what the rappers do in terms of the images they protect for young people, especially people of color is so damaging. >> this is a perfect example. respect the office of the first lady. whether it's michelle obama or melania trump. >> that's where politics is now. it invites this kind of response

and i don't think it's appropriate -- [multiple discussion] >> by saying it invites a response it's saying melania invited this -- >> no, i'm talking about kanye being invited to the oval office to curse out loud in front of the evidence -- >> you're saying it justifies -- >> no, i disagree and disapprove of t.i.'s action but i can't say it's so different in acrimony -- >> do you listen to t.i.? >> you know how i feel about the rap. >> more elizabeth warren reaction coming up next.

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she's native-american spark a debate on race in america and some on the left claiming president trump and his base are the ones stoking the racial divide. >> i think it's something where people can relate to elizabeth warren being trolled this way by president. this particular heritage obsession of his is more anti-democratic white woman. >> in terms of the attack on warren i believe it was among white anxieties among donald trump's base on who's white in america. >> and rush limbaugh with his take. >> there isn't a single vote that has anything to do with her. she event even announced for the presidency. why is she intruding? she think like all the others on the left thinking if they can be

the one to destroy trump, if they can be the one to illustrate whatever they think of trump is true they'll be heroines or heroes. >> i think the left has so closely married identity politics to their ideas and their strategy that elizabeth warren has marched herself into this. they're so focussed on skin color and gender that they can't divorce themselves from those issues when it comes to talking about their ideas and that's where we are. i want to take president trump out of this. yes, he has mocked elizabeth warren and called her pocahontas but the boston globe called for her to clarify and said she need to provide proof of the discrepancies naming it in one thing and not another and the

allegations she got ahead in her career as a result of it. i think the president used it against her as he should because she's a fraud and clearly used it to get ahead in her career. it wasn't just him but the boston globe asking for clarification on her background. >> jesse, what do you think about this being about white grievance and trump is playing in that in that way? >> i don't understand that. i don't understand the question or the sound bite. what's this have to do with identity politics. this about a white woman claiming to be indian for privilege. if white privilege is real why are you claiming to be american indian? i don't understand anymore. remember last week we did the poll and the poll said that this country is not p.c., 80% of all americans are sick of political correctness and at the top of the list the people most sick of

it were indians. they were most upset, 82% that p.c. culture has run amok. i guess they're okay with the washington redskins logo and elizabeth warren trying to assume their ethnicity. the world has now been turned upside-down and people for halloween it's going to be chaos. >> i don't want lectures about halloween costumes ever again from the college campuses when elizabeth warren -- >> you thought of yourself as a nate ef -- native-american, no, i'm dressing up as elizabeth warren. >> but president trump makes all the hispanic people members of ms-13. >> i understand why they've done it because i think they've convinced themselves he believes that or it's their main line and they also said that about

republicans before, mccain and george w. bush. i believe the reason we've seen elizabeth warren stumble out of the native-american closet is he's not on a judiciary committee. they've had the left media to themselves to talk about the kavanaugh hearing and in the middle of that does the event where she says by the way, i think i'm going to run for president. and pitches the idea she's helpful to many across the country and steps on it with the dna piece. think because she's not in the judiciary committee she tried this. i should write a book about this but i won't because we too many books. she would have run in 2016. she would have had the left to herself. she was not hilary and would

have been able to fire up the base and wouldn't have to defend her husband's past transgressions in the '90s and bill clinton's past and it's now in my opinion too late. >> thanks a lot, hilary. all your fault. >> we often go back and forth over identity politics. i was curious you're strong in deriding the antifa folk and there was a violent confrontation and i thought what would greg say about that kind of racial -- >> i'm against all violence, juan. i understand certain protesters showed up wearing mask. i'm always skeptical of anyone who wears masks. i don't think the other fellas were wearing masks and there was

vandalism and that's all i know but lets take to identity politics. it's the story of the left that it's white base and we left the media out of this. the media is culpable. they're in concert with the left to create this toxic puddle of identity politics. it's no longer for the democratic party to be about the content of your character. it's a now the color of your ancestor's skin. this is not what martin luther king anticipated. the democratic party has no ideas, and no stances because they're busy chasing their oppression ratio. who is more oppressed in this intersectionality. you don't have anything to say about the war in afghanistan or cyber terror or automation or saudi arabia or iran or black on black crime or anything because you're too obsessed with your skin color and who is more oppressed. that's the real crime. and the candidate that wins for

the democrats is the one who rejects that. >> i thought i was talking about identity politics and why i raised it with you -- >> and i answered. >> i'm surprised the republican club in new york would host somebody -- >> call them, juan. >> i think it's odd. you say the republicans don't play racial politics. >> i don't see it's racial. have you racial on the brain. >> for all the trump-loving singles looking for just the right partner, you've come to the right place. we have good news straight ahead on "the five." why bother mastering something?

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single and ready to mingle but haven't had much luck finding that special someone, listen up. there's a new app called donald daters and it gives conservatives a place to meet others without the liberal backlash. greg, is this innovative when it comes to the dating scene? skipping steps when it comes to finding the right person for you? >> it's part of the silo wing

where people seek out separate areas. back in the old days when you were dating the suggestion was to get to know the person first before you fool around because sex distorts the overall compatibility. you don't see the other thing about the person because you're too involved in the carnal desires. i think it should be the same for politics. i think you should get to know the person before politics because politics can distort your compatibility. you may have incredible chemistry but because she shows up wearing a black life matters pin you'll never hook up. >> it's a great theory. >> i just came up with it on the stair climber. your mom used to say wait until the first case. wait three dates before politics comes up. >> what are people going to talk about? >> sex. >> politics aside, politics are

sometimes part of our value system and the way you think about life. >> out and around town if you meet somebody from new york who's a conservative who likes fox and says i'm the only one in new york. it's not true. there's a bunch of them but they don't know where to meet. >> there's 30. >> people are meeting online. i think it's a good idea. we have farmers only and christian mingle. make america date again, jesse. >> i thought online dating was for losers. the way you pick up is in bars. if you go to the trump international hotel in d.c. is where they all hang out. >> the online dating is all people do. >> it's online hookups.

>> know people who have met online and have great marriage. >> juan, are you terrified thinking about your grandchildren's future listening to jesse? >> i'm educated by dr. watters. i didn't know you felt this way about online dating. >> i don't feel strongly about it. >> not at all. >> you think it's bad forum. >> i grew up in a time when there wasn't online dating and when it was popular it was for the people who couldn't find a date. >> you're going get a lot of mail. >> you know, i think the sad part of this is that you have people now can't talk. >> they're talking on the internet. >> if jesse is a trump supporter and i'm not, it means we're not supposed to talk?

>> you can talk you just can't wear a nasty woman t-shirt. >> this week michigan plays michigan state and i've seen households with both flags outside. it's possible. with jesse, i can talk to him and i don't agree on politics but i can talk to him. for example, in my family, there are people who are strong republicans. do i think it's a problem? no. >> you're very tolerant, juan. well, i think online dating saves a lot of time and money. for guys, for example, should be happy about online dating because you're not meeting people in bars and dinner and -- >> what about wining and dining and the courtship?

what about impressing them with money you're spending on them? >> the issue is that men still used the short-term mating beliefs while online. they'll pretend they're in it for the long term but it isn't. it's still the statement problems as go to the bar. >> there's a new segment called jesse's dating tips. coming up next, one more thing.

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>> jesse? >> you like to relax? never would have known. i have two videos in one, this is how it's done. check out this dog from boston dynamic. >> dear god. ♪ >> you can computerize rhythm, so for all the people who can't dance, they can help you over at boston dynamics. learn how to dance. this is a project for you. you've got to go there because i have contacted boston dynamic, they do not talk to the press, all they do is create killer robots. if there is something going on in that place, i think it's run by the robots. you have to go. i will show up with the camera. >> i thought greg was in deep pro-robot can't. >> i am, but disturbed by the fact that they don't have a press office and nobody talks. >> the boston dynamics press office will not return a call question marks because they want because they've all been killed

and the robots are running the place. i'm telling you, this is true >> we cannot confirm or deny that the robots killed everybody everybody. all right, here is my story. over the weekend, a giant pig, giant, was on the loose in california. local police reported the pig, which is the size of a mini horse that was running around the neighborhood. the pig is a repeat offender, so the deputies took care of the problem. they knew where he lived. they've been called to the area before and the deputy was a very smart and took her jalapeno doritos to lure him back home behind the gate. after the incident took place on facebook, the san bernardino county sheriff sheriff department said crime fighting, secure a horse-sized pig, we do it all. >> i wonder where that pig wants to go? >> let him go.

>> wants to go to your kitchen. >> i will admit, i thought the cop was backing up from the big, but you say he was luring -- >> very lovely lady out there. never miss an episode of -- what is this called? "the five." "special report" is up next. >> bret: i think it "the five." a new meeting in saudi arabia as he now has two turkey, the saudi kingdom denies any knowledge of what happened. there is evidence that jamal khashoggi was killed inside the consulate. we are just three weeks to the date to the midterm elections. we will check in on two senate races tonight. the arizona race gets nasty and personal with one candidate calling the other a traitor. we will talk live with a republican hoping to flip indiana's democratic senate seat. this is "special report." ♪ ♪